and do not forget them opening up your browser everytime you open it to take you to a page asking for donations..... once a month doing this, fine! BUT DOING IT EVERYTIME I OPEN THUNDERBIRD? NOT COOL AT ALL!!!!!
Evolution works great for me. The only issue I have with it is that (as far as I know) it doesn't have the option to close to the system tray. If you want to be instantly notified when you have new emails, you need to have it opened in the background at all times.
I've used a multitude of emailcients but never really found a "great" one. I'm currently on Thunderbird because its crossplatform (I still use a mix of Windows and Linux systems) and it works well enough for day to day needs.
Thanks for the info. The new thunderbird rolled out on Debian Sid the other day. Sid Cinnamon has become my daily driver again recently. I was shocked by the changes, but I'm giving it a try. The only problem I had so far is that I had to re-enter my microsoft account (old hotmail address I still use as a secondary) information, and there is now a confirmation page that comes up from microsoft, similar to what you get when adding a gmail address to thunderbird. Anyway, I'm going to see how it goes. The look of the new interface doesn't bother me.
I have been a fan of Thunderbird (flatpak) for a couple of years, and even donated small amounts to them. BUT the latest "upgrade" has ruined it for me. ... I can no longer print from emails or attachments, the whole thing crashes and closes itself every time. I tried so-called Betterbird, and it does the same thing. I installed Evolution, but It doesn't really appeal to me for some reason. .... I am keeping it, but eventually I reverted to the older version of TB, which worked for me. (I can print again) .... I don't know if this native APT version (not flatpak) will self-update to the latest, but I hope not. MX-23 - KDE , OS
Thunderbird Supernova is fantastic. much more stable than the previous version , looks great , has great new tag features. And it's using only 430 MB of memory
For simplicity I would go with Geary if it weren't for a long standing bug where even when set to it doesn't properly close. I've had some but more manageable issues with Evolution so it's been my choice for a while now. I have entertained the idea of switching though.
I WANT TO GET RID of the " ALL MAIL" folders and all that mess--- that's from GMAIL which I DON"T EVEN HAVE... and everything goes into it and is duplicated in several other files.. and you can't even DELETE the damn thing because it's actually on GMAIL... WHICH I DO NOT HAVE.
I'm not 100% sure why you dislike Thunderbird so much? You know, you can install different themes to deal with the "contrast". Just sayin'... I get the "too bloated" part...but??? Is it really that bad?
Unpopular opinion: I don't want just email. It makes a lot of sense to combine calendar and email for work environments, since you need a message transport across organisations for calendars - that's email. Skinning email for chat (hello DeltaChat!) also makes a great deal of sense. I also don't really care much about RAM. This is not the 90's and I'm not running a VDI farm :) Once you have chat, it makes sense to add voice/video calling, though this could be via plugins. Thunderbird falls down in three of areas: settings should be held in hidden folders in each account. Then you don't need to configure each client for filters etc. Then we have a couple of problems which are not thunderbird's fault: sending and receiving email are different protocols, which is a broken design and makes configuration too hard for normies. We need postfix to treat mailbox "outboxes" as queued mail for sending. Maybe a negotiated setting in IMAP? We need a way to offload filtering and autoresponders to the server. Again, maybe a negotiated setting in IMAP which can tell the client where to put documents describing filtering using a standard filtering protocol and any proprietary extensions the server can handle too.
I hate Tbird UI when it comes to setting up accounts. Stop guessing "proper" servers for every account; I will fill it myself, thank you. One even cannot start setting up servers, if one does not fill in a domain (Manual setting is not shown until then). Unfortunately Betterbird doesn't turn of this abomination.
I know it's not everyone's cup of tea so speak, as it's not Linux based, but I find for me checking my multiple webmail accounts with some I've had since the early/mid 90's when I first got internet, that Edison Mail on Android works really well for my needs on my tablet with a bluetooth mouse, and keyboard, along with my phone for really quick stuff, plus the free version is not that much different than the paid version far as features go, but I guess if I had to go with something on Linux, then I'd go with Geary since it's built right into GNOME.
"UI is so contrasty" This is what DarkMode is doing to us. I have hated it for a long time - it kills my eyes. Though some developers are pushing it on the public, without any choice (for example Portmaster guys).
Hi, guys! What I don't like in Evolution in my Xubuntu 22.04 is that I can't copypast atachments from the clipboard. Each time I need to send a file I have to attach it by searching for the file on the hard drive. In MS Outlook (sorry for mention it here 😅) I remember very well that I simply attached files from the clipboard. Are there any ways to do the same in Linux?
Thunderbird is the only email client in Linux that supports Microsoft Office 365 2FA authentication with the help of the Owl extension. It also has "LanguageTool" extension that acts as Grammarly.
Slypheed or Claws.
I'm SO glad of your opening. I was beginning to think that I was going craze with the changes on Thunderbid... I'm not the only one!
and do not forget them opening up your browser everytime you open it to take you to a page asking for donations..... once a month doing this, fine! BUT DOING IT EVERYTIME I OPEN THUNDERBIRD? NOT COOL AT ALL!!!!!
Evolution works great for me. The only issue I have with it is that (as far as I know) it doesn't have the option to close to the system tray. If you want to be instantly notified when you have new emails, you need to have it opened in the background at all times.
Claws Mail works well for me. Uses 1/10 of the RAM of Thunderbird on my old machine.
Have you tried emacs to save on RAM compared to Claws?
@@anonytuser711 I haven't yet. I think I'm too much of a noob for emacs, and Claws Mail is efficient enough for me for now.
I donate to Claws Development ❤
Vivaldi has a worthy mail client built into the browser. The calendar module is pretty good too. Geary was OK. Thunderbird is not acceptable.
I've used a multitude of emailcients but never really found a "great" one. I'm currently on Thunderbird because its crossplatform (I still use a mix of Windows and Linux systems) and it works well enough for day to day needs.
Thunderbird is essentially Firefox. Weren't they planning on decoupling to save on memory resources?
Thanks for the info. The new thunderbird rolled out on Debian Sid the other day. Sid Cinnamon has become my daily driver again recently. I was shocked by the changes, but I'm giving it a try. The only problem I had so far is that I had to re-enter my microsoft account (old hotmail address I still use as a secondary) information, and there is now a confirmation page that comes up from microsoft, similar to what you get when adding a gmail address to thunderbird. Anyway, I'm going to see how it goes. The look of the new interface doesn't bother me.
I have been a fan of Thunderbird (flatpak) for a couple of years, and even donated small amounts to them.
BUT the latest "upgrade" has ruined it for me. ... I can no longer print from emails or attachments, the whole thing crashes and closes itself every time.
I tried so-called Betterbird, and it does the same thing.
I installed Evolution, but It doesn't really appeal to me for some reason. .... I am keeping it, but eventually I reverted to the older version of TB, which worked for me. (I can print again) .... I don't know if this native APT version (not flatpak) will self-update to the latest, but I hope not.
MX-23 - KDE , OS
Thunderbird Supernova is fantastic.
much more stable than the previous version , looks great , has great new tag features.
And it's using only 430 MB of memory
Now using Supernova as a flatpak and I like this.
For simplicity I would go with Geary if it weren't for a long standing bug where even when set to it doesn't properly close.
I've had some but more manageable issues with Evolution so it's been my choice for a while now. I have entertained the idea of switching though.
the thing that keeps me on Thunderbird is K-9 and MailSpring have no way to import the years of mail I have in Thunderbird.
I WANT TO GET RID of the " ALL MAIL" folders and all that mess--- that's from GMAIL which I DON"T EVEN HAVE... and everything goes into it and is duplicated in several other files.. and you can't even DELETE the damn thing because it's actually on GMAIL... WHICH I DO NOT HAVE.
Multiple Evolutions with multiple different accounts is easily achievable on Qubes OS!
I got fed up with TB sending 2 emails every time. Moved to Evolution.
I'm not 100% sure why you dislike Thunderbird so much? You know, you can install different themes to deal with the "contrast". Just sayin'... I get the "too bloated" part...but??? Is it really that bad?
i hate that email will turn total PITA -.-
I use Claws Mail, my second choice would be Geary.
Unpopular opinion: I don't want just email. It makes a lot of sense to combine calendar and email for work environments, since you need a message transport across organisations for calendars - that's email. Skinning email for chat (hello DeltaChat!) also makes a great deal of sense. I also don't really care much about RAM. This is not the 90's and I'm not running a VDI farm :) Once you have chat, it makes sense to add voice/video calling, though this could be via plugins.
Thunderbird falls down in three of areas: settings should be held in hidden folders in each account. Then you don't need to configure each client for filters etc. Then we have a couple of problems which are not thunderbird's fault: sending and receiving email are different protocols, which is a broken design and makes configuration too hard for normies. We need postfix to treat mailbox "outboxes" as queued mail for sending. Maybe a negotiated setting in IMAP? We need a way to offload filtering and autoresponders to the server. Again, maybe a negotiated setting in IMAP which can tell the client where to put documents describing filtering using a standard filtering protocol and any proprietary extensions the server can handle too.
Neomutt?
I'll have to check that out
I use Mailspring.
I hate Tbird UI when it comes to setting up accounts. Stop guessing "proper" servers for every account; I will fill it myself, thank you. One even cannot start setting up servers, if one does not fill in a domain (Manual setting is not shown until then). Unfortunately Betterbird doesn't turn of this abomination.
I know it's not everyone's cup of tea so speak, as it's not Linux based, but I find for me checking my multiple webmail accounts with some I've had since the early/mid 90's when I first got internet, that Edison Mail on Android works really well for my needs on my tablet with a bluetooth mouse, and keyboard, along with my phone for really quick stuff, plus the free version is not that much different than the paid version far as features go, but I guess if I had to go with something on Linux, then I'd go with Geary since it's built right into GNOME.
"UI is so contrasty"
This is what DarkMode is doing to us. I have hated it for a long time - it kills my eyes. Though some developers are pushing it on the public, without any choice (for example Portmaster guys).
Evolution🥇
Hi, guys! What I don't like in Evolution in my Xubuntu 22.04 is that I can't copypast atachments from the clipboard. Each time I need to send a file I have to attach it by searching for the file on the hard drive. In MS Outlook (sorry for mention it here 😅) I remember very well that I simply attached files from the clipboard. Are there any ways to do the same in Linux?
windows 10 / macOS default mail app is the best mail app, wish i cloud use it on Linux
For me the win 11 mail app is the best looking mail program I have ever used and it works just fine for what I need it to be.
I'm partial to BlueMail.
You kinda blurred half of the whole video, guess this was not intended 😛 Still i am team geary, JUST MAIL ffs! 🙂
Kmail!!!!!
Geary
Didn't like Better bird either-- just MORE of thunderbird crap...
Thunderbird is the only email client in Linux that supports Microsoft Office 365 2FA authentication with the help of the Owl extension. It also has "LanguageTool" extension that acts as Grammarly.