Mercedes OM617 Rebuild - Part 22 - Injector Rebuild, pop test and Install
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/ woodsandbarclay In this video I clean the injector housings and install some new monark nozzles.
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you are the best mentor so far in my book. you did not leave anything behind well explained in full details, thank you so much. GOD BLESS YOU.
Thanks man I really appreciate that!
You're really doing great here. I learned a ton from there videos. Thanks for taking the time to make them...
Awesome
Love these videos my man, good shit. 👍🏼 wish I coulda bought you a tripod before you filmed all these
Yeah not really the most stable videos but what the heck I'm sure they're a little bit helpful
@@woodsandbarclay you bet bud, extremely helpful. Appreciate all you do/did.
Great videos, keep up the good work! I'm going through similar steps on my om617 and learned a lot from you.
All the best from Germany!
Awesome, thank you!
Good job you got my attention.
Thank you I appreciate that
Great methods and instructions
Thank you! Glad you're enjoying the videos.
Thank you I'm so glad you're enjoying the videos.
Thanks for the video. I'm about to do this job on my 240D and 300D. Where can I buy that W123 field manual you were using...and does one manual cover 240D & 300D?
You can download the PDF manual from the website and then have it printed at FedEx kinkos
Hey John I just did this yesterday with my 300 SD I did not have the Monarch tips to replace the Bosch tips because that’s all I could find at the time vehicle seems to be running much better. I have really enjoyed your videos on the 617 I just replaced the head and Believe me it has been a challenge I consider myself a good mechanic.
Well I hope my videos are helping and I'm glad you're enjoying them. they're all going to be posted with descriptions on the website I just started soon. Https://www.om617rebuild.com
Mercedessource sells the Monarchs if you want to put them in.
@@johntousseau9380 monarks are what I ended up installing had to order them from Germany because mercedessource was out of stock.
There was such a huge difference for me between the 82 and the 85 injectorBarrel but I don’t really see that would make a difference but it’s really interesting to know why they changed it
Yeah the dimensions of the injector nozzle housing did change but I'm pretty sure they're interchangeable
I did this a few weeks ago on my W116. It gets better fuel economy and has more power. Number 5 is leaking though so it has to come out so I can lap the pieces again.
Yeah I had to remove one and retorque also. Pretty normal to have to do that.
Una gran clase magistral! Gracias!
Thank you
Hi...Great video thanks.....do you have a link to download a free copy of the FSM ?
regards Brett
Yes if you go to my website and go to the download section there is a link to download the 617 manual.
@@woodsandbarclay Many thanks......for some reason my 662 manual does not have any detail
like your 617 manual does about the injector
amazinggg!
;)
The heat shield has a groove on top part because it has to fit nozzles that stick out just a bit and
when screwing what should sit is the housing on the shield, not the nozzle or would damage it
So before setting the shield into the motor test it on the injector to see if it sits properly
if it doesn´t it will damage the nozzle and get full of carbon .
On watching your video noticed older version is different than new one, the correct is the one with wider central depression !!!
Yes , because mine is a 1962 version , and was never substituted , its not tin but steel and didn`t wear out.
Oh this is great feedback thank you so much
Is it okay to put more than 1 shims together, to get the right pressure. Or only 1?
Yes you can put five or six in there if you need to it often takes several different sizes to get to the right pressure.
Can i use the original shim that has already sit in old injector or i need to put new one?
all that work, kit is about what 450 ? injectors? you can get brand new injectors from bosch for 650 shipped from germany
I own a professional shop and do this all the time. For an amateur like yourself it may be easier to just order a set of injectors. But for a professional shop it's better to be able to rebuild them. Also when you order injectors there's no telling if they're going to be pressure tested correctly and be good quality. I pressure test and pop test mine and I get them exactly correct. If you want something done right you really need to do it yourself. Doing this job yourself will save you hundreds of dollars and you will have a superior product.
@@woodsandbarclay you dont even know me :D i have my master in mechanics. own a bunch of cars, and a real pro shop :D i get them directly from bosch and they are tested ;) iam doing that for 30+ years buddy
@@mikki9644 Then you should know you save hundreds of dollars pop testing and building the injectors yourself. Bosch doesn't even do it right sometimes and they are producing their parts in Indian now.
Great videos what was total expense to redo this engine on your own
I think the total cost of the rebuild was a little over $3,500 but that also includes the purchase of some special tools. If you go to my website and go to the downloads section there is a spreadsheet showing the complete cost and parts list. www.woodsandbarclay.com
Where did you get the washer shims from?
You can order them from mercedessource.com I never tried to search anywhere else I just know they have them so it's pretty easy to just order from them
Nice video but you need to get a tri pod to hold your camera
I know I'm so terrible with the recordings I definitely need to get one!!!
@@woodsandbarclay no worries brother I enjoy the close up view.
Also you are byfar the best one handed rebuilder ever. I learned so much from your builds that I want to buy one and rebuild it. I'm an old timer but still have another swap in me left. You are a great builder ,I've gone through 15th video and will enjoy the rest 😊 love the trans-am and Lemans from my day. your awesome and will follow you thanks for your experience 😀
@@nitrofish1974 thank you I'm so glad you enjoy the videos!
Where do you get your shims?
Uncle Kent over at Mercedes Source
Why did you lower your injectors pop pressure?
I'm asking because I just increased mine the other day to 2,000psi.
Mine are set to the factory specified values they are not lowered yours are actually higher than the specified values by the factory service manual
@@woodsandbarclay Oh jeez! 😳What is the specified psi?
on the side of the injector, it said 135bar so I thought I was supposed to pop at 2,000 psi.
@@tydale8629 I think it's around 1950 or something like that I can't remember what I set mine to but the way I do it in the video is correct
135 bar equals 1,958 PSI
@@woodsandbarclay Oh Thanks!
yeah, I'm 42 psi too high
Hi, where to get shimms for OM606 injectors??
I actually ordered them from mercedesource.com
John there is such a big difference between the injector chambers diameter of the hole going into the block between each year it is really confusing
Are you talkin about the pre Chambers?
I dont know where I have to buy de washers. If go to the Mercedes or hardware store. thanks
Mercedes source sells them
Where did you get your manual
Years ago I ordered the rebuild kit from our buddy uncle Kent over at Mercedes source. ;)
Can someone tell me the meaning: " the diference between any two injections nozzies within one engine not exceed 5 bar positive" thanks. Second, my pression is 115 + 8, whats is meaning? I imagines the meaning is inyector can arribe 123 bars? thanks
It just means you need to get the pressure the same on all of them
@@woodsandbarclay I dont understand,are you sure? If in the manual appear "presion inyection normal 115+8 bar" seems like can arrive 123 bar. thanks
Where did you get that instructions manual ?
Mercedessource
Go to my website and you can download it om617rebuild.com
@@woodsandbarclay Thanks for letting me download it ! 30/10/2021
Pressure should be about 1500 ps
These are actually for a turbo motor so the PSI is around 1950 or 135 bar