I am always gonna go higher resoloution tbh. I don't notice frame rate much as long as its stable. Plus I game like 3.5 feet away from a 55 inch 4k TV.
@@TheJamtarts1 lol I don't know how you do it. To each their own of course, I just can't go back to 30fps stable frame times or not. It just feels so sluggish I'm happy they are giving everyone their option though, if Cerny is right, and a 1/4 of users are choosing fidelity over performance, that's still millions of people
@@AnEyeRacky yeah I mainly game on PC and I have a decent gpu. I mainly game at 4k with at least 40fps and up to 60fps depending on the game. So I rarely am as low as 30fps. I dunno I just don't notice FPS that much, I prefer 60 to 30 but to me it doesn't feel that much different. I can instantly tell if I am playing at less than 4k though. I will be an 8k/30fps player as soon as its possible on Modern games without a 90 series cars lol.
@@TheJamtarts1 lol lucky you, DF said ps5 pro will have 8k 30fps modes for some games! As long as you are getting the experience you want, it doesn't bother me how other people decide to play, the point of games is to enjoy them right? We all get enjoyment out of different things, different genres, different inputs, etc. Everything is better when there is choice
PS5 PRO was designed with Digital Foundry in mind lol they should be super happy like if there were ever a console designed for a youtube channel then it is definitely this one by Sony.
Am I correct in thinking with a ps5 pro we won’t need to decide between performance and fidelity modes, as there will be a pro mode with games that support it?
Nope. You literally have to sit right in front of your TV if you want to see the Pro's advantages. Incredibly not worth it, unless you're banking on playing ps4 remasters on it.
I have Horizon Forbidden West on CD for the PS5. If I buy a PS5 Pro without a disc drive, does that mean I won’t be able to play Horizon anymore because the CD is used for verification?
I hope they dont leave regular ps5 players behind with focusing so much it seems on the pro. Makes it seem like the regular ps5 id already becoming obsolete
I'm only worried that the pssr on ps5 pro will introduce artifacts, ghosting and oversharpening on objects and movement compared to ps5 regular. I never noticed artifacts on regular ps5.
I have a 13900ks/4090 rig and will get the PS5 Pro to compare. Finally im waiting for the 5090 (first day). What i missed here in this very good comparison vid is the cam pan and reaction theme. 30fps , 60 or 100 are a big difference for my eyes. 30 is unplayable, 60 is the minimum for fluid fast gameplay in regards of cam panning.
This game was already one of the most gorgeous games ever seen. I can't imagine being any better! Lol that's awesome though. I can't wait to get ahold of the ps5 pro.
i still play splinter cell blacklist to this day when i have time bought it back first in 2013 on xbox 360 now i play it on pc its a great game even though we didnt have th OG Michael Ironside to voice the sam fisher character but Eric Johnson still did a good job as sam fisher voice actor.
Will these PS5 Pro boosts require updates for the titles? Seems weird that games like Horizon FW Complete Edition came out when they did, effectively "just before" the PS5 Pro patches (in the grand scheme of things)
Guys if You dont see any difference between pro and base model Youre probably watching this on smartphone or 24 inch monitor. On big tv like 65"+ difference in picture quality is MASSIVE comparing to performance mode. and Pro vs fidelity mode You still get slightly better image on pro and way better clarity in motion. If You have money go for Pro no hestitate! if You don't base model its still ok. Its like going from rtx 2070 super to 4070.
I’m not clear on the mental model. Will pro 1) play same quality and better frame rate than quality mode?? 2) play same frame rate and better quality than performance mode?? Or 3) better quality than Quality mode and higher frame rate than performance mode at the same time? Is it truly best of both worlds (in every aspect) or is it a little bit better than each?
Lol again zoomed in like crazy. How about showing full image to see the difference? Or will there be no difference to distinguish in the real world gameplay?
Great looking game of course. Best looking game on PS5 along with Ratchet and Clank imo. But i think Hellblade 2 is the best looking game on console atm. Mainly because it’s a much smaller linear game, but looks like perfection.
@@JeremyLouisGaming that’s why I can’t give it to HB2 because of the reason you mentioned. Imagine how insane HFW would look if it was a linear walking sim with limited combat, the fact that it’s opw with a lot of ish going on and it still looks incredible yeah I’m giving it to HFW
Look DF I know y'all job is to pixel peep but it ain't no way y'all convincing me that this is an $800 difference that's worth spending. even for PS4 pro owners. Reason being is who in there right mind can tell if the game is lacking in graphics nowadays unless the images are side by side. If u only had one single screen in front of u I don't believe u will be disappointed in your experience. I'm all for a good AAA title but this chase for photo realism is killing the game industry. The sad truth is the need for people to have "the best" and influencers pixel peeping is going to get Sony sales and then they are going to do the same video for the PS6 and y'all are going to eat it up.
I'm struggling to tell the difference on youtube; maybe it's more obvious when hooked up to a big TV but that's an AUD 1200 experiment I'm unlikely to make.
I don't think they're trying to influence you, or anyone. They're just stating the differences. Analysing tech like this is the point of the channel, as you said.
I just want to see unreal engine 5 title improvements and also Alan wake 2. Those games with very poor IQ on performance mode. These exclusives dont need these pro enhanced features.
@@JayzVeez majority of gamers are just consumers, they don't know nor care about game dev or creating. You can tell by the way most comments react to industry news.
@@johnmackel2928 thats rhetorical. The real question is how many games even use decima engine? I only know horizon and Death stranding. Such a shame. If only all games use decima engine. Thats why I am hoping that the Pas5 pro would help these sh*tty looking UE5 games look even decent. Because some of these UE5 games are actually good but the inage quality is just poor on ps5
I don't care i will buy ps5 pro and btw i hate gaming pc for some reason yes enjoyed because of higher fps but i don't want to play with hacker's so pro is perfect and its not to expensive for me with 2tb sdd
@SolarErazer Another lie from you 😂 and even if it was true, that PC still does more than the PS5. It's still receiving Sony exclusives, and at their best versions, and overall, the games are a fraction of the price of Sonys shitty £70 DIGITAL games. You can justify your admittedly stupid purchase, but stop lying to do so 😂 it's embarrassing, and no, i'm not a PC fanboy, I'm a disgruntled Sony fan boy, witnessesing the resurgence of arrogant Sony during the PS3 era.
I'm 50 years old and put my face right up to my tablet. I'm sorry, but I don't see a difference in detail. The framerate boost is good... Hey Sony... Make more games!
Overall yes, depending on the PC, set up, preferred settings, and don't forget the monitor. Display matters too. Take my 77 inch TV, overkill but the internal upscaling, VRR, and processor makes playing video games quite an experience for. Super excited for my PS5 professional.
Another ps4 game, save youself £800 and get a second hand ps4, then you can play the same games. Instead of being ignorant and blind to the consumer why dont they try remastering Bloodborne instead of this bore fest. People might actually be excited for that at 60fps with better visuals.
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I like big boosts and I cannot lie
So you might be interested in the latest update of Stellar Blade...
You other gamers can't deny
@@wg8561 With Eve walkin' round with her itty-bitty waist!
@@craigharris41 and a round thing in my face... My stick rumbles
Going to replay both Horizon games on the Pro ❤
Friends don't let friends play at 30hz. That guy is my friend
I am always gonna go higher resoloution tbh. I don't notice frame rate much as long as its stable.
Plus I game like 3.5 feet away from a 55 inch 4k TV.
@@TheJamtarts1 lol I don't know how you do it. To each their own of course, I just can't go back to 30fps stable frame times or not. It just feels so sluggish
I'm happy they are giving everyone their option though, if Cerny is right, and a 1/4 of users are choosing fidelity over performance, that's still millions of people
@@AnEyeRacky yeah I mainly game on PC and I have a decent gpu. I mainly game at 4k with at least 40fps and up to 60fps depending on the game. So I rarely am as low as 30fps.
I dunno I just don't notice FPS that much, I prefer 60 to 30 but to me it doesn't feel that much different. I can instantly tell if I am playing at less than 4k though.
I will be an 8k/30fps player as soon as its possible on Modern games without a 90 series cars lol.
@@TheJamtarts1 lol lucky you, DF said ps5 pro will have 8k 30fps modes for some games!
As long as you are getting the experience you want, it doesn't bother me how other people decide to play, the point of games is to enjoy them right? We all get enjoyment out of different things, different genres, different inputs, etc.
Everything is better when there is choice
@@AnEyeRacky agreed. I am not sure I will get a PS5 Pro and I am certainly not paying 2k to upgrade to an 8k TV for the foreseeable lol.
More game should have use this engine. I mean Decima engine.
PS5 PRO was designed with Digital Foundry in mind lol they should be super happy like if there were ever a console designed for a youtube channel then it is definitely this one by Sony.
Digital foundry makes a better job on marketing 👍 than sony
700 FOR FAKE 4K
@@futvnycdude my 1500 pc cant have orginal 4k with 60 fps... crackjunkey
@@futvnyc my brother in Christ, Perfect Dark runs at 720p in a $550 xbox series x.
@@georgkeller3225 my 2000 pc cant....
I cant wait on my ps5 pro ❤️
It will be nice to jump back into the remaster with these features after all these years. It was my favorite game on PS4
Am I correct in thinking with a ps5 pro we won’t need to decide between performance and fidelity modes, as there will be a pro mode with games that support it?
Cant wait to get mine
Watching on a 4k qled 55 inch tv and I'm struggling to see the differences. Am I the only one?!
Nope. You literally have to sit right in front of your TV if you want to see the Pro's advantages. Incredibly not worth it, unless you're banking on playing ps4 remasters on it.
I have Horizon Forbidden West on CD for the PS5. If I buy a PS5 Pro without a disc drive, does that mean I won’t be able to play Horizon anymore because the CD is used for verification?
Remake of killzone on the pro would be amazing
I second and third this. Do a full remake of Killzone from the PlayStation 2.
@@reykennedy5716that would be awesome, I’ve only ever been able to play kill zone 2 and 3
@@ericbaker8781 all awesome games. I only have played Shadow Fall.
Killzone 2 remake including multiplayer, now that would be a dream come true
I miss fps games like that with a full offline campaign.
I hope they dont leave regular ps5 players behind with focusing so much it seems on the pro. Makes it seem like the regular ps5 id already becoming obsolete
Not at all
@@Tyler-hs9eu The PS4 never become obsolete it's just different settings and tunes
I definitely didn't read it as "Big Boosts"
How so?
Did you compare it to performance mode?
I'm only worried that the pssr on ps5 pro will introduce artifacts, ghosting and oversharpening on objects and movement compared to ps5 regular. I never noticed artifacts on regular ps5.
I have a 13900ks/4090 rig and will get the PS5 Pro to compare. Finally im waiting for the 5090 (first day). What i missed here in this very good comparison vid is the cam pan and reaction theme. 30fps , 60 or 100 are a big difference for my eyes. 30 is unplayable, 60 is the minimum for fluid fast gameplay in regards of cam panning.
This game was already one of the most gorgeous games ever seen. I can't imagine being any better! Lol that's awesome though. I can't wait to get ahold of the ps5 pro.
Will be playing this game for the first time on the ps5 pro
Same here
Losers lol
The cool thing is that they can implement this upscaling method also on the base PS5 for their next game
oh my sweet summer child...
Ps5 pro exclusive
No, they can't.
@@anywaays6992 it's not PSSR
This is false. PSSR will remain exclusive to the Pro.
I was thinking of Splinter Cell Blacklist Or Double Agent 😭😭😭 would love to see a New Splinter Cell 😅
i still play splinter cell blacklist to this day when i have time bought it back first in 2013 on xbox 360 now i play it on pc its a great game even though we didnt have th OG Michael Ironside to voice the sam fisher character but Eric Johnson still did a good job as sam fisher voice actor.
Looks gorgeous ❤
Will these PS5 Pro boosts require updates for the titles? Seems weird that games like Horizon FW Complete Edition came out when they did, effectively "just before" the PS5 Pro patches (in the grand scheme of things)
Now give us next gen Killzone there's enough Horizons for now
Based on KZ3 and Shadow Fall....this series can stay dead lol
Happy I got the pro
Guys if You dont see any difference between pro and base model Youre probably watching this on smartphone or 24 inch monitor. On big tv like 65"+ difference in picture quality is MASSIVE comparing to performance mode. and Pro vs fidelity mode You still get slightly better image on pro and way better clarity in motion. If You have money go for Pro no hestitate! if You don't base model its still ok. Its like going from rtx 2070 super to 4070.
I can clearly see the difference on a compressed RUclips video these people are just haters
I'm going to see for myself in a few weeks!
I guess I'm getting old. I can't see a difference that stands out between performance mode and pro.
Ffvii was super noticeable. This not so much.
Es geht um das Spielgefühl mit den deutlich mehr an Frames
Decima legit the best engine out there
Why would they _not_ use PSSR?
Bit random having Private Pyles in the thumbnail.
Next to pc version ?
this looks so good
I’m not clear on the mental model. Will pro 1) play same quality and better frame rate than quality mode?? 2) play same frame rate and better quality than performance mode?? Or 3) better quality than Quality mode and higher frame rate than performance mode at the same time?
Is it truly best of both worlds (in every aspect) or is it a little bit better than each?
Better quality in both performance and quality, and a rtx mode in some games
i can’t wait to get my ps5pro , it’s gonna be totally trill fam, 🥳
Lol again zoomed in like crazy. How about showing full image to see the difference? Or will there be no difference to distinguish in the real world gameplay?
Ps5 pro..❤️
“Friend don’t let friends play at 30hz” says the dev studio that have made 30hz games for the last, what 15 years?
Are you okay?
no title yet ready gang.
HFW is still the best looking game to date. Console and PC
And all with zero raytracing BS which says a lot.
Great looking game of course. Best looking game on PS5 along with Ratchet and Clank imo. But i think Hellblade 2 is the best looking game on console atm. Mainly because it’s a much smaller linear game, but looks like perfection.
@@JeremyLouisGaming that’s why I can’t give it to HB2 because of the reason you mentioned. Imagine how insane HFW would look if it was a linear walking sim with limited combat, the fact that it’s opw with a lot of ish going on and it still looks incredible yeah I’m giving it to HFW
@@Marshmallow-ht8me Yea. Horizon is a gorgeous game, even on PS4 it still looks amazing.
@@Emucratic When I first played this, the foliage and details were genuinely insane, it's one of those games where you'll just soak in the enviroment.
"Friends don't let friends play 30 hz games." That line is the best line I have heard all year.
I guess this is OK, but newer games like this already looked pretty nice. Older titles redone make more sense to me. *cough* Bloodbourne *cough*
Can pssr be used on ps4 games. Id love Alien Isolation and Dragon Age Inquisition to have higher resolutions
I feel like that would actually be the most useful part of this upscaler
It makes me wonder if PSSR is a non-AI based version of FSR 4 or something.
@@TheSpawnTrapper I'm pretty sure pssr is Ai based
Its weird cause some
Things like the grass look totally broken on PS5 Pro
I’m so torn on if I should trade my ps5 for this
I can’t be the only one who read the title as “Big Boobs” the first time. Lol. Or maybe I’m just an idiot.
Guess Sony is paying you well to make so many videos about their old ass games on $700 consoles
He called it the new PS5 Pro “Performance mode”, im sure he meant enhanced mode.
If you watch the entire video about this, he says that first party studios have been labeling the option "Performance Pro" in the settings.
Look DF I know y'all job is to pixel peep but it ain't no way y'all convincing me that this is an $800 difference that's worth spending. even for PS4 pro owners. Reason being is who in there right mind can tell if the game is lacking in graphics nowadays unless the images are side by side. If u only had one single screen in front of u I don't believe u will be disappointed in your experience. I'm all for a good AAA title but this chase for photo realism is killing the game industry. The sad truth is the need for people to have "the best" and influencers pixel peeping is going to get Sony sales and then they are going to do the same video for the PS6 and y'all are going to eat it up.
I'm struggling to tell the difference on youtube; maybe it's more obvious when hooked up to a big TV but that's an AUD 1200 experiment I'm unlikely to make.
I don't think they're trying to influence you, or anyone. They're just stating the differences. Analysing tech like this is the point of the channel, as you said.
I just want to see unreal engine 5 title improvements and also Alan wake 2. Those games with very poor IQ on performance mode. These exclusives dont need these pro enhanced features.
That's up to the third party developers though. Nothing can be done from Sony side.
@@MauroSannaits incredible isn't it how many people know absolutely nothing about game development and think its just Sony making all games.
@@JayzVeez majority of gamers are just consumers, they don't know nor care about game dev or creating.
You can tell by the way most comments react to industry news.
Decima engine > Unreal tech demos 5
@@johnmackel2928 thats rhetorical. The real question is how many games even use decima engine? I only know horizon and Death stranding. Such a shame. If only all games use decima engine. Thats why I am hoping that the Pas5 pro would help these sh*tty looking UE5 games look even decent. Because some of these UE5 games are actually good but the inage quality is just poor on ps5
I think Digital Foundry benefited the most from PS5 Pro rather than players itself. DF guys are producing non stop content
30 Hz i left the chat.)😂
??? This is Crazy Sony frindly - look to the Pictures - for that 799,-?
Is there a mode to let people use the original aloy model and not the fát one?
A huge upgrade imo
I don't care i will buy ps5 pro and btw i hate gaming pc for some reason yes enjoyed because of higher fps but i don't want to play with hacker's so pro is perfect and its not to expensive for me with 2tb sdd
What a lame reason....there are hackers on every platform.
@@pastqr I guess he turns cosplay off, also most "hackers" are just people who play the game 24/7 and don't have jobs lmao
PS5 is equivalent to a RTX 4070 a $2000 pc so Pc are angry
@SolarErazer Another lie from you 😂 and even if it was true, that PC still does more than the PS5. It's still receiving Sony exclusives, and at their best versions, and overall, the games are a fraction of the price of Sonys shitty £70 DIGITAL games. You can justify your admittedly stupid purchase, but stop lying to do so 😂 it's embarrassing, and no, i'm not a PC fanboy, I'm a disgruntled Sony fan boy, witnessesing the resurgence of arrogant Sony during the PS3 era.
More reason to play console games more thsn ever
aloys face doesnt look so good
Oliver should upgrade his microphone, his voice sounds too basy
I'm 50 years old and put my face right up to my tablet. I'm sorry, but I don't see a difference in detail. The framerate boost is good... Hey Sony... Make more games!
Im 51 years old and see a lot of differences🤔
you need glasses
@@Dennisvdo1 No, possibly a better Internet connection, and a screen with a higher resolution.
Go specsavers there is a clear difference or just hateing to hate
Why do people even say things like this? Why do you even come to Digital Foundry if you can't see these kinds of differences? Shit is mind-boggling.
Too bad the art direction is so bland 😢
I've seen it already. Why you keep uploading the same content, it's annoying.
2 channels I think
You need to unsub from DF Clips then. Or you'll just keep getting frustrated.
Bro this is the channel for clips and reaction from their main channel, not hard to understand
Pc version still looks better
Overall yes, depending on the PC, set up, preferred settings, and don't forget the monitor. Display matters too.
Take my 77 inch TV, overkill but the internal upscaling, VRR, and processor makes playing video games quite an experience for. Super excited for my PS5 professional.
Nah but one thing is sure: pc gaming is 100% 🏳️🌈
@@MarcoHernandez-nb5dc U re 100 .... 🤬 kid
@@MarcoHernandez-nb5dc white flag gay? I'm too old for young people lingo. 😭
No way Sherlock.
Another ps4 game, save youself £800 and get a second hand ps4, then you can play the same games.
Instead of being ignorant and blind to the consumer why dont they try remastering Bloodborne instead of this bore fest.
People might actually be excited for that at 60fps with better visuals.
this is not a remaster
Tell me you havent played Horizon on Ps4 Pro or PS5 without telling me. Hating just have your opinion heard like a narcissist.
At 30fps? No thanks
@@garyr5866 So you played no games last generation then?
I Honestly Barely Seeing Any Difference Maybe a Little Sharper Visuals But Honestly a Waste Of $700...🫤😒
30fps Vs 60fps is a huge deal