@Ravecat27 I agree with you and I would like the twins back, but they have already laid the foundations differently, I don't think they will dig again to restore the base of the tower to make it exactly like 1wtc :(
3 and 4 wtc are not mini skyscrapers...they're supertalls...literally both above 900 feet tall and 1 acre floor plates. 2 and 5 will follow the trend…that’s not a mini skyscraper…
I don't really understand why after 1WTC/FT was built, they prioritized every other WTC but #2. To me it seems clear 1 and 2 should have housed most businesses then the rest of the WTC's could have been built on a "by demand" basis.
I agree with this sentiment as well. But I think One WTC is owned by the Port Authority so they had to build it on speculation because ground zero had to be rebuilt. The rest of the buildings are privately owned by Larry Silverstein and each needed an anchor tenant depending on economic conditions. My guess is that most tenants opted for the shorter buildings once the designs were released, towers 3&4, because of the fear of a future terrorist attack. The WTC seems like a perpetual target of anti-American sentiment, with 1993 and 2001 being such examples.
The one with the diamond top? Or are we talking like the original tower design cause that is a huge no go by todays architecture standards plus the attack had exposed its major weaknesses.
I hate how they are cutting corners. The spire is a downgrade in the final design. 3 World Trade Center getting rid of the Pinnacles. I like the original design but prefer a twin Freedom with an outdoor observation deck instead.
There was footage of someone checking out the underground shopping mall of the World Trade Center and of the exits leads out of the unfinished 1st floor of the 2 wtc.
I think what they mean by "finished" is, things like subways or underground retail are all there so that there is that portion in service for connectivity waiting for the building on top.
As someone who goes to the WTC site often, from what I understand the basement levels of 2 wtc are probably used as maintenance levels for the rest of the site and the part of the first floor that is in operation *I think* just connects to the underground mall
At the risk of alienating myself from half of those who read this, that is one thing I can agree with him on if with nothing else, adding that the glass version of the Twin Towers looks so nice. He actually wanted to add a few additional floors (115 vs the original 110), but that fades into irrelevance if the occupants have no way of getting out safely in the event of another terrorist attack like the bombing of the parking garage in 1993 or 9/11 in 2001.
They should’ve made them more castle like, at least 2,001 feet high. Place a giant spire similar to the one atop the Empire State Building atop the north tower. But gothic instead of art deco, and they can place a giant eagle sculpture atop the south tower. With smaller spires at each corner, that would look great.
they should’ve just rebuilt the twin towers in glass behind the memorial pools that way it could’ve still been somewhat of the same layout as before and still have a memorial that’s just my opinion at least
I think the problem with 2 world trade center is that 1. There's no tenants to lease out the building. 2. The design would be dulled out because of 1 world trade center automatically. 3. I think the stump should be turned into a park or an entertainment complex filled with restaurants and retail stores or something just to liven up the place at night.
I'm sitting on a bench right next to the world trade center right now watching this video it's just a Subway entrance and an entrance into the station/mall. It looks like they already built the staircase underneath that would go into the skyscraper from the station like WTC 1 but it's obviously not built.
No matter what they would have done it was not ever going to make everyone happy. If it were up to me I would have kept the reflecting pools just as they are now on the original footprint. Then I would have erected two very similar, more modern, higher and safer Twin Towers shuffled over but with their same orientation, (North and South). I would have rebuilt another Marriott Hotel, added an underground museum and memorial, and since I like the design of the Freedom Tower I would have built that across the street as Three World Trade Center/Freedom Tower. Any other buildings would be comparatively smaller. I like the diamond design. I do like the step design but it needs to be less slanted and more like a spire without the guant block at it's base. An image of a building toppling over is not a good aesthetic for that area.
Im confused on why they aren’t building 6 WTC since it wouldn’t be the same without all of them, and besides, 6 WTC was more important than 4 or 5 WTC since it was the US customs house.
Much better than that hideous BIG (stacked leaning blocks) design! Would be probably one of the worlds ugliness building if built! This one is a BIG improvement.
THANK GOD they dumped that Lego pile! I have said from the beginning that grotesque look was hideous, brutal and would not age well. But at this time, whatever is built will not be occupied by one major corporation. Price Waterhouse Coopers will never be downtown again, but wealthy connected professionals will always want to be in the financial center. So that means apartments, condos, restaurants, grocery stores, etc. Business is evolving into home office venues, so we must install stores, eating establishments, entertainment spaces and areas for indoor entertainment and physical exercise. It will be an entirely different downtown. But it must also include affordable housing for the people who service all the luxury business spaces. Integration, diversity of race and financial levels, and the joy of affordable homes and green spaces will bring new brilliance to a place that has left such sadness to us from 9/11. Let's not just build. Let's build UP!
Your video completely misses the problem that the already started basement of World Trade Center 2 causes. It was started with the assumption that a certain design of a sky scraper would be build above it, but when construction stopped and now they’re looking at different architectural designs, it might be necessary to completely tear out what’s already been started before a different design can be started, which would exorbitantly increase the costs, which is why construction is moving at the snail’s pace you say it is moving at.
3, 4 and 5 World Trade Center are not Mini Skyscrapes in Lower Manhattan, God Twin Towers destroyed on 9/11, 7 WTC kind a like being a mini skyscraper.
understandably one must consider what should be considering much of the cities in fact the nations future. These sorts of building go up without the intent on coming down so great planning must be in the works. They cant be singular task specific like building of old. Office buildings built for one purpose. And should that purpose stray then you end up with what we already see in the city, alota empty office building since the finical and incentives to remain in the city has plummeted. The pandemic gave business and industries just enough time and more than enough validity to reassess their assets, their foundations even a companies location. NewYork city, built as one of the nations original great cities. but today people want to enjoy their lives and not be situated someplace they hate, but only for the fact that their industry and thus place of work places in locations they'd rather not be. Even places that are great but have become to much of a financial loss. Youve labored long and hard to reach higher heights in live occupation and income only for the city to rob you blind for the sake of being their. people have had enough. and the pandemic provided that opportunity for change. Ironic that the very places they've decided to relocated are the very places they've long bashed on a regular frequent basis. places like Florida.
This new WTc 's so generic, there's no uniqueness... The shapes, the facades.... Everything 's boring.... The Freedom Tower 'n the Westfield Mall 'r the only good things in this new WTC
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Just build the same as wtc 1 tower but without antenna…
I agree
@Ravecat27
I agree with you and I would like the twins back, but they have already laid the foundations differently, I don't think they will dig again to restore the base of the tower to make it exactly like 1wtc :(
3 and 4 wtc are not mini skyscrapers...they're supertalls...literally both above 900 feet tall and 1 acre floor plates. 2 and 5 will follow the trend…that’s not a mini skyscraper…
agreed, they just look smaller becuase of 1 wtc. 3 wtc is actually one of the tallest buildings in nyc lol
For 6 WTC it can be PCNYC
@@TatersEatsCrayonslook at lower Manhattan,except 1 wtc, not building is higher than 3 and 4 so they are not mini at all
@@ParkerWilson2710so you agree with me?
@@TatersEatsCrayons exactly
I don't really understand why after 1WTC/FT was built, they prioritized every other WTC but #2. To me it seems clear 1 and 2 should have housed most businesses then the rest of the WTC's could have been built on a "by demand" basis.
I agree with this sentiment as well. But I think One WTC is owned by the Port Authority so they had to build it on speculation because ground zero had to be rebuilt. The rest of the buildings are privately owned by Larry Silverstein and each needed an anchor tenant depending on economic conditions. My guess is that most tenants opted for the shorter buildings once the designs were released, towers 3&4, because of the fear of a future terrorist attack. The WTC seems like a perpetual target of anti-American sentiment, with 1993 and 2001 being such examples.
I agree with u , sometimes the people behind these projects are slow
I really wish the original design was built. It looks so much better for the overall WTC site than the newer proposals
The one with the diamond top? Or are we talking like the original tower design cause that is a huge no go by todays architecture standards plus the attack had exposed its major weaknesses.
@@Hero_Of_Time94he’s talking about the diamond design
I like the original design the best
diamond design is still the best
3:50 I wish they’d still construct that design.
I agree the original design was the best
They could change the design based on the tenants needs so the new one isn’t the final design
Kinda resembles the idea of the original twin towers and we have them times two! Looks amazing.
I think its an ugly design, I like the stair step design best
@@mhxxd4 me too
Diamond design is still the best!
Only if a major Investment Bank signs the lease will they build the diamond design because it's tailored to such an anchor tenant
I hate how they are cutting corners. The spire is a downgrade in the final design. 3 World Trade Center getting rid of the Pinnacles. I like the original design but prefer a twin Freedom with an outdoor observation deck instead.
Agree with this
There was footage of someone checking out the underground shopping mall of the World Trade Center and of the exits leads out of the unfinished 1st floor of the 2 wtc.
I think what they mean by "finished" is, things like subways or underground retail are all there so that there is that portion in service for connectivity waiting for the building on top.
As someone who goes to the WTC site often, from what I understand the basement levels of 2 wtc are probably used as maintenance levels for the rest of the site and the part of the first floor that is in operation *I think* just connects to the underground mall
There is a mall in the basement of 2WTC. It is all the shops on the North side of the Oculus. There is an Apple store and a Starbucks there.
This whole rebuild is an embarrassment. The Trade Towers should be back taller, a lot safer, and more modernized for us.
You basically quoted Donald Trump
At the risk of alienating myself from half of those who read this, that is one thing I can agree with him on if with nothing else, adding that the glass version of the Twin Towers looks so nice. He actually wanted to add a few additional floors (115 vs the original 110), but that fades into irrelevance if the occupants have no way of getting out safely in the event of another terrorist attack like the bombing of the parking garage in 1993 or 9/11 in 2001.
I was thinking the same thing!
They should’ve made them more castle like, at least 2,001 feet high. Place a giant spire similar to the one atop the Empire State Building atop the north tower. But gothic instead of art deco, and they can place a giant eagle sculpture atop the south tower. With smaller spires at each corner, that would look great.
Well they aren’t coming back so…cry forever?
they should’ve just rebuilt the twin towers in glass behind the memorial pools that way it could’ve still been somewhat of the same layout as before and still have a memorial that’s just my opinion at least
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Thanks for the clip!
They might as well don’t build a 2 wtc. Everyone is used to the new New York skyline anyway, we in a different era
Fuck no they should build it.
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Should I built two world traits and are out of boxes and cardboard with duct table For the diamond design yes or no
I think the problem with 2 world trade center is that 1. There's no tenants to lease out the building. 2. The design would be dulled out because of 1 world trade center automatically. 3. I think the stump should be turned into a park or an entertainment complex filled with restaurants and retail stores or something just to liven up the place at night.
4:03 If that ends up as the design, then they should name it "the stairs to heaven" Since it looks like a set of stairs that leads up to the sky.
The stair design makes me want to hurl.
I'm sitting on a bench right next to the world trade center right now watching this video it's just a Subway entrance and an entrance into the station/mall. It looks like they already built the staircase underneath that would go into the skyscraper from the station like WTC 1 but it's obviously not built.
Those murals are very cool if you read up on them, and they're nothing new to the site. They've been around since at least 2018.
No matter what they would have done it was not ever going to make everyone happy.
If it were up to me I would have kept the reflecting pools just as they are now on the original footprint. Then I would have erected two very similar, more modern, higher and safer Twin Towers shuffled over but with their same orientation, (North and South). I would have rebuilt another Marriott Hotel, added an underground museum and memorial, and since I like the design of the Freedom Tower I would have built that across the street as Three World Trade Center/Freedom Tower. Any other buildings would be comparatively smaller.
I like the diamond design. I do like the step design but it needs to be less slanted and more like a spire without the guant block at it's base. An image of a building toppling over is not a good aesthetic for that area.
Make a video of the new 5 world trade center
A lot of people are moving south. It's also irritating to go into Manhattan
alll basements were completed as part of the truck entry scanner system
What about 6 Wtc
Im confused on why they aren’t building 6 WTC since it wouldn’t be the same without all of them, and besides, 6 WTC was more important than 4 or 5 WTC since it was the US customs house.
Ask the developers
Much better than that hideous BIG (stacked leaning blocks) design! Would be probably one of the worlds ugliness building if built! This one is a BIG improvement.
THANK GOD they dumped that Lego pile! I have said from the beginning that grotesque look was hideous, brutal and would not age well. But at this time, whatever is built will not be occupied by one major corporation. Price Waterhouse Coopers will never be downtown again, but wealthy connected professionals will always want to be in the financial center. So that means apartments, condos, restaurants, grocery stores, etc. Business is evolving into home office venues, so we must install stores, eating establishments, entertainment spaces and areas for indoor entertainment and physical exercise. It will be an entirely different downtown. But it must also include affordable housing for the people who service all the luxury business spaces. Integration, diversity of race and financial levels, and the joy of affordable homes and green spaces will bring new brilliance to a place that has left such sadness to us from 9/11. Let's not just build. Let's build UP!
So, they don't know?
Imagine there where 10 wtcs
Spirit Halloween!
Your video completely misses the problem that the already started basement of World Trade Center 2 causes. It was started with the assumption that a certain design of a sky scraper would be build above it, but when construction stopped and now they’re looking at different architectural designs, it might be necessary to completely tear out what’s already been started before a different design can be started, which would exorbitantly increase the costs, which is why construction is moving at the snail’s pace you say it is moving at.
Where is 6 World Trade Center?
It’s a shame, I personally liked the diamond design. That graffiti looks like a ghetto.
Either build the original diamond design or just make it a park. This limbo status is puzzling.
The murals on WTC2, and the sitting area by it just reminds me of Watch Dogs 2 lol
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Leave a like, who wants the world of trade center 2 to be the same as 1 🥺
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What about 6 wtc
That’s what I’m asking there was a WTC 6 in the og center but they didn’t wanna rebuilt it in the new one yet there is 7
it's the Performing arts center building.
not sure what you mean by mini... like i don't even know what you are talking about.
Wait what’s ever happened to 6 wtc 🤔
There's not enough room. WTC 6 Is The Museum
@@BlueZero-ij3pt I figured that’s the case
None of these places will be affordable.
Great
I don’t think we need that 😊
3, 4 and 5 World Trade Center are not Mini Skyscrapes in Lower Manhattan, God Twin Towers destroyed on 9/11, 7 WTC kind a like being a mini skyscraper.
understandably one must consider what should be considering much of the cities in fact the nations future. These sorts of building go up without the intent on coming down so great planning must be in the works. They cant be singular task specific like building of old. Office buildings built for one purpose. And should that purpose stray then you end up with what we already see in the city, alota empty office building since the finical and incentives to remain in the city has plummeted. The pandemic gave business and industries just enough time and more than enough validity to reassess their assets, their foundations even a companies location. NewYork city, built as one of the nations original great cities. but today people want to enjoy their lives and not be situated someplace they hate, but only for the fact that their industry and thus place of work places in locations they'd rather not be. Even places that are great but have become to much of a financial loss. Youve labored long and hard to reach higher heights in live occupation and income only for the city to rob you blind for the sake of being their. people have had enough. and the pandemic provided that opportunity for change. Ironic that the very places they've decided to relocated are the very places they've long bashed on a regular frequent basis. places like Florida.
Looks dated already -Windows XP vibes. Value engineered to an inch of its life
Por culpa de Larry silvestein no hay edificios espectaculares en la zona Cero
New York has tons of empty buildings why couldn’t they just build it and then wait for tenants to come in
Por culpa de George w bush ya no están las torres gemelas por culpa de Larry silvestein no hay torres gemelas otra vez
Lets hope that's not the final design for 2 WTC. Looks horrible
Still sucks
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Por culpa de George w bush ya no están las torres gemelas
I made of my mind do you understand is all in your head
Looks AWFUL. New York is more and more becoming uglier
imagine if they rebuild the twin towers
Why rebuild something that was designed in the 60s. Makes no sense. Also disrespectful to 9/11 families
2WTC is gonna be ugly
This new WTc 's so generic, there's no uniqueness... The shapes, the facades.... Everything 's boring.... The Freedom Tower 'n the Westfield Mall 'r the only good things in this new WTC
I think 3 wtc and the first 2 wtc design are pretty cool, but 4 and 7 wtc are the worst ones imo because they are way too generic
Boring