+BlackWind I own a GT3 that is several years old and was considering buy a 911 Carrera next year. But that now looks to be of the table. I hate turbo's in performance cars. It is one of the reasons I have an RS5 but even the new RS5 may be going down the turbo routes. I have no problems with Porsche doing turbo's but to have all of there cars as turbo (barring GT3) is just insane. Even Ferrari is going down the turbo route.
buggeroff It is when you're supposed to review a sportscar and you cant drive it how it's supposed to be driven because of the weather. Also, SUN >>>>>> RAIN
The 991.2 is just the natural progression of the 911. You may not get that NA sound but the benefits of the turbo engine is definitely worth the sacrifice. It's faster, more fuel efficient, more connected and less steer by wire. I think Porsche is just embracing the change and the final product is pretty damn awesome!
No thats what happens when ur biased and blinded by love for a brand. Its a sports car no one cares about fuel effeciency, or faster, the sound is a huge part of the driving experience, the theatre, what seperates iconic supercars from normal cars.
Well I have owned a 997.2 turbo s and a 991 turbo and how special these cars are !! The performance in both speed and handling of these turbo's is just simply outstanding. That is only going to be diluted by all 911s now having a turbo...it just won't be the same for those of us that have driven the "real thing". That Porsche turbo mystic now becomes just standard equipment. You can now buy a base 911 and tune it ( ecu , headers, exhaust, intake plenum ) for about $11-12,000 and have a 500hp+ beast! My 991 turbo was tuned to 650hp and it was a under 3 second animal! The tuning wonders of turbo's😄
I know this is very old, but this I don’t understand. In the days of NA engines, the turbo was the dream car. Now they’re all turbos, some people don’t like that. What part of a huge contradiction am I missing? I’m seriously considering buying a 911. Life’s literally too short not to, if you like the idea and have the means. We’re running towards the end of privately owned motor cars. What a way to finish, with a 911!!
+Jackie Scholl That's not true. They called it the turbo because it literally had a turbo, unlike the rest of the lineups. Of course now, it has caused confusion.
Why the fuck do people worry about turbos? I have a Carrera S 997 with a normally aspirated 3.8 engine (no turbos). I will happily get a Carrera with turbos at a later date. Porsche know more about Porsches than most commentators do is my bet.
That steering wheel is fabulous. And that manual transmission god yes. But please UK journalists, for the love of god, settle somewhere the roads are not soaking wet 90% of the time.
Dear Carfection, I owe you an apology. I truly believed xcar had gone away and some lame corporate bs had taken it's place. I was wrong. Clearly wrong. Thanks, Alex. Thanks, Carfection.
For a facelift, this generation has a lot of new stuff available. Mostly multimedia and safety things. That is great and all. But the emotion part definitely took a hit. Even my sales guy told me that they now have to start selling the cars differently. They can't just let the potential customer go out for a drive with PSE on and then come back and sign the contract. With this change, even though I love the new design, the 911 is not an attractive offering anymore. It's more a GT car now. The GT3 models are the only interesting 911s now. And with the turbos coming to the mid-engined models soon, there is pretty much no attractive Porsche left apart from the most extreme ones. Sad. I hope once the batteries get lighter they ditch the turbos again and use NA engines with additional E-motors, like in the 918. That would be my preferred solution if you have to meet those useless emission regulations.
+RaphProgListener E-Motors are perfect for everyday family usage. And they have exceptional performance. But they lack the sound of a ICE. That is their weakness as a sports car. Porsche NA cars have always sound amazing. They have a pure sports grunt about them that is purely natural.
Yes ,and the turbo lag they complain about being half a second in the 991.2 .These cars are way nicer than 930,993 turbos - I had them all and love my 991.2 targa 4s
Great to hear Mr. Alex's 2 cents regarding the new 3.0tt Carrera S cars. The 911 range turbo motors are welcome in the high elevations of Colorado.At my driveway its 8,200ft ... My MY98 911 (993) C2S 3.6l is sucking wind .... output power is off by -20% or more. Say -3% for every 1,000ft above sea level. Turbo charging offsets this elevation negative somewhat. Go ahead Porsche AG .... turbo charge everything ......
+Nik Brudar XCAR and now Carfection was never really about that. Their reviews have always been rooted in the intangibles about the love of cars and that's why I keep coming back.
+Daniel Silva Manual gearboxes aren't for Speed or Acceleration, they are for fun. Most people who spend high amounts of money for a Car like the Turbo S or GT3 RS, aren't buying them to have fun with a Manual box, they are buying those models to be driving the fastest Porsches. If they were manual they would lose to a 458 Italia or AMG GT... With PDK they are faster than anything on the road that isn't a Hypercar. Think about it, really.
Sorry for my kinda unrelated question, but it seemed like it was the right time, so here it goes. If 458 and amg gt are super cars, what is a 911 carrera/carrera s? It has less power yet it can almost match them in terms of acceleration which is really odd to me. And if a 911 carrera s is a super car, then what is a 911 turbo s?
malicalik 13 I remember reading a quote from Porsche saying that they are Sports Car makers. Every Porsche drives like a Sports car, whether it's a 911 or a Cayenne or a Panamera. If you drive a Mercedes GLE 63 AMG, as good a car as it is, there is nothing sporty about it other than the power, when compared to a Porsche equivalent. The Porsche Cayenne Turbo on the other hand, has sports car handling combined with power and amazing balance. Some Porsches have Supercar Performance such as the Turbo S and GT2 RS amd GT3 RS, but they are still classified as sports cars as they did start life with the classic Sports Car 911 Body. Wings and Air Vents can't turn a Sports Car into a Supercar. A Supercar car has to be Super in more than 1 way. In my opinion it has to have Super Performance - Top Porsches have Super Looks - Only Carrera GT + 918 have Super Sound - Only Carrera GT + 918 have Super Interior - Only Carrera GT + 918 have Super Price Tag - Top Porsches Have
How will the previous cars resale value react to this car? This was the prettiest 911 imo, second only to the 993. I feel like people will prefer the new model simply because it's faster. But I think the better experience would be in the previous car. Mind you I haven't driven either one.
I do like Porsche and i think the new look is an evolution and it's like fine tuning. The main question I have is that with them now adding turbos to the 'standard' 911 will there no longer be a need for the Turbo and Turbo S? I loved the Turbo as it gave that sense of power and rawness and made it stand out, all be it with a fancy spoiler but now do you really need one?
You can degenerate the critics all you want, but there's a good reason why the Singer exists. And don't you dare saying it's not better than all of the current Porsche models.
+Pan Damasque people will always appreciate and pay for the fine craftsmanship displayed in the Singer. Porsche is opening centers to restore older 911s. They have tons of love for their old cars. The new Singer Carrera 4 is bad ass.
The changes only affect people who spend time on track, which would be a very small minority of drivers. For your average buyer, it's still an amazing car.
Actually the engine is in the right place. Its the best place for optimum cooling. The right place for traction and cornering. The right place for aerodynamics. The right place for uncompromised comfort. It's everyone else that's wrong.
Change is always hard but Porsche 911 is always going to be iconic. A lot smashed on the PDKS in the GT3's but after experiencing it they wouldn't go back. I feel Porsche will continue to be very desirable and continue to make incredible sports cars. I do prefer NA engines like my GT3 but would love to have a 991 Turbo S as well.
PLEASE do the new Mustang GT! I would really love to hear your impressions of it considering what you get for the price. (especially here in the US but still)
The 911 represents the pure "drivers' car". Every little change they make makes it a little bit less pure. Wow, I just felt a little bit like Hitler. Anyway, if Europe is so concerned about meeting emissions quotas and blah blah, they should try to make tankers, factories, buildings cleaner, not cars. Because, and this is one of my favorite stats ever, the largest 15-16 tankers in the world create the same amount of pollution as **all the cars in the world**. Wrap your head around that. I did, and I'm angry that the new 911 is turbo charged. Edit: I just found this channel I love it so far. Thank you.
Nope. Do some basic research, and educate yourself away from such lies. And use some common sense: one tanker pollutes as much as 60 million cars? Dumbass. And those polluting non-cars provide the petrol you put in your car, to your petrol station. Don't keep embarrassing yourself with such gormless clueless self-absorbed statements.
I actually respect Porsche a lot for embracing new ideas and technology, and new social expectations and attempt to engineer the faults out of it - sure they aren't always completely successful, but they always make the industry progress.
XCAR/Carfection as lovely as your videos are in terms of filming + editing quality and narration, I've never heard you criticise anything. If there is any problem/feature /quality that many other reviewers outright don't like, you usually mention as "interesting", "controversial" and then proceed to sugarcoat it. I know what car companies do to journalists if they aren't enthusiastic enough about their products, (To anyone interested, look for the story Chris Harris published about Ferrari on Jalopnik in 2011) but the fact that you just love everything you test, and the " even if it's bad it's still good" approach makes me wonder whether you're a reliable source of information. And no, I don't really care about this or any other Porsche and don't mean specifically this video, just the general picture I got having seen almost everything you guys made.
"however, even the most minute of changes are criticized and can cause them to drop the company, or product, or even a web-based car show at a moment's notice ..."
The only think that we needed to know, and what was not said - is that the door for more affordable engine mods has been open and you can relatively easy blow 500hp out of it.
The 991.5 is a prelude for Porsche's line of Hybrids which will be on all future 911's once this initial testing is complete. Imagine the turbos being replaced by hybrid generators. The last 911 100% petrol versions are now complete. The new era of 911's is here.
You bring up a good point in this vid. Will Porsche now have to change the name of the 911 Turbo to something different now that they will all be turbos?
Porsche 911 turbo has turbos everyone loses their mind. 911 R has a manual gearbox everyone loses their mind. Carrera S has both the turbos and a manual gearbox nobody bats an eye.
Turbocharging to meet emissions regulations. I wonder about that. Since most of the major hi-per manufacturers still have at least one naturally aspirated car. Porsche still has the NA GT2 (I assume the GT3 RS, 2019 ver) will still be NA). So, if Porsche can still put out a 500 HP NA fat-6...what is the REAL reason why they chose to TT the Carrera's?? Why has Ferrari TT their 488 but not their 812 SUperfast? Why are Lamborghini's still NA? (e.g. Huracan's...Aventador's...etc.). Could Porsche not put a "de-turned" GT3 engine in the Carrera cars?? :)
This is one beautiful interior, I got to say. No problem with the turbo for me, modern cars just have turbos. They dont have lags anymore and they don't rev like the average 1.6L TDI Jetta.
1:44 hey hey hey!! we all know what a 911 is all about!? driving!! righ?! one the most direct, engaged relationship between man and machine! isn't?, turbos lack of linear precise power!! that's why even no fan boys are complaining about!
There is one big advantage to those turbos though. You should be able to tune that turbo engine and get another 75-125 bhp. Won't work in a naturally aspirated car. So you'd get 911 turbo level performance on the cheap. I expect the next 911 to be a hybrid with turbos and electric engine for torque fill.
I think you guys should have a go with Koenigsegg. I think they might let you drive an RS or maybe later, an Regera. Fifth gear, top gear and EVO (written article by Chris Harris) have criticized previous of their models and on the other hand Koenigsegg has a filled order book... so it is not that important to let a lot of journalists have a go in their current models. But I tend to think that the way Carfection makes its videos, should allign with the way Christian himself likes to present his products. So go for it! Thanks for all the content Karl
I will tell you what dilutes the brand: I had put $12k into my 997.1 C2S to get it to 400bhp. Something tells me that in about 6 months time tuners will have these cars up to 500-520bhp with tune and minor exhaust tweaks alone and a lot more TQ than any NA GTS or even GT3. That exhaust note my car makes over 5,000rpm. You cannot match that turbo. Speed wise - this turbo 3.0 will make all 3.6 and 3.8L NA motors obsolete. I bet you a lightly tuned 3.0T will be slightly faster than a 991.1 GT3 RS in both 0-60 and 1/4 mile. Oh, well... You cannot have it all I recon.
+Tim Tursonoff Turbo's have a whine to their engine. NA have a natural growl. All these turbos will suit customers like you. But they may loose people like me. The future of performance cars is bleak. Porsche have not gone down the turbo route out of choice they are being forced down this route by EU regulations. Socialists want to reduce the size of car engines. These same socialists regulated the market place and encouraged drivers to go over to diesel and now they want to ban those diesels because they say they are bad for the environment.
No worries. Most of us are not that kind of fanatic enthusiasts and will continue to watch X-Car despite you having messed up the name. And since you have no need to manage any future emissions like Porsche, we are confident you will change it back to it's proper name. After all, the majority of time, changes are for the better. But sometimes they are not.
+Fast Er Porsche sports cars that are NA are not the reason for emissions. It is the average family car that causes the emissions because there is far more of them on the road. Electric cars for the family (and single people as well) is the way of the future. That means there can be far greater filtering of emissions at the power plant and also recycling of particle materials and gases. Petrol based sports cars will have very little effect on the environment.
I keep seeing these vids of people praising the new turbo--not turbo Porsche's-- power. I haven't seen anyone talk about the one question that used to be number one with turbo car tests. What about turbo lag? Is the power linear? How does it really compare with a proper engine (yes I'm not a fan of turbos)?
Most of the people who complain are the ones who haven't even sat in one
Nonsense. The NA sounds much better and the feeling when driven is incomparable.
Correct or even owned one lol
Does that mean they can’t have an opinion??
I somehow suddenly imagined a mob of angry 911 enthusiast with pitchforks and torches screaming "Heresy!! Witchcraft!!"
+cominacatcha That moment when you remember a line from a car review that is 2 years old but you don't remember what you studied yesterday.
Your joke is older than James may.
+BlackWind
I own a GT3 that is several years old and was considering buy a 911 Carrera next year.
But that now looks to be of the table. I hate turbo's in performance cars. It is one of the reasons I have an RS5 but even the new RS5 may be going down the turbo routes.
I have no problems with Porsche doing turbo's but to have all of there cars as turbo (barring GT3) is just insane.
Even Ferrari is going down the turbo route.
+bighands69 all the cars in the future are gonna be turbocharged , hybrid or electric... Is the future get used to it.
James May quote at Top gear on Porsche
Definitely you had hard time filming in such unpleasant weather. Thank you.
+Carfection Couldn't you postpone it?
Just seeing the typical english weather in a video is depressing.
+Carfection whenever you don't feel like going out in the rain in a new 911 call me, i'll spare you the suffering
***** i'd happily do their job too :)
buggeroff It is when you're supposed to review a sportscar and you cant drive it how it's supposed to be driven because of the weather. Also, SUN >>>>>> RAIN
2:15 shots fired at us who still complain about the Carfection name lol
RIP to one of the best sounding cars on the planet.
The 991.2 is just the natural progression of the 911. You may not get that NA sound but the benefits of the turbo engine is definitely worth the sacrifice. It's faster, more fuel efficient, more connected and less steer by wire. I think Porsche is just embracing the change and the final product is pretty damn awesome!
No thats what happens when ur biased and blinded by love for a brand. Its a sports car no one cares about fuel effeciency, or faster, the sound is a huge part of the driving experience, the theatre, what seperates iconic supercars from normal cars.
Well I have owned a 997.2 turbo s and a 991 turbo and how special these cars are !! The performance in both speed and handling of these turbo's is just simply outstanding. That is only going to be diluted by all 911s now having a turbo...it just won't be the same for those of us that have driven the "real thing". That Porsche turbo mystic now becomes just standard equipment. You can now buy a base 911 and tune it ( ecu , headers, exhaust, intake plenum ) for about $11-12,000 and have a 500hp+ beast! My 991 turbo was tuned to 650hp and it was a under 3 second animal! The tuning wonders of turbo's😄
I know this is very old, but this I don’t understand.
In the days of NA engines, the turbo was the dream car.
Now they’re all turbos, some people don’t like that.
What part of a huge contradiction am I missing?
I’m seriously considering buying a 911. Life’s literally too short not to, if you like the idea and have the means.
We’re running towards the end of privately owned motor cars.
What a way to finish, with a 911!!
I agree having owned 930,993 turbos considered very desirable- now all fitted with turbos its not desirable? Love my 991.2 targa 4s !
Is that Phil Collins ?
+Carfection but, nearly? we need more songs.
So it's not a 911 turbo but it has two turbos so it is but it isn't...
Porsche logic.
They can't just change every single name.
Should have the new 911 turbo as a 911 turbo turbo
+Jackie Scholl That's not true. They called it the turbo because it literally had a turbo, unlike the rest of the lineups. Of course now, it has caused confusion.
In the future it will be. It's not a 4S but it has AWD , so it is and isn't....
+xDAAAZEx or super turbo
C4S with a tune and an exhaust please
Why the fuck do people worry about turbos? I have a Carrera S 997 with a normally aspirated 3.8 engine (no turbos). I will happily get a Carrera with turbos at a later date. Porsche know more about Porsches than most commentators do is my bet.
That steering wheel is fabulous.
And that manual transmission god yes.
But please UK journalists, for the love of god, settle somewhere the roads are not soaking wet 90% of the time.
*****
South of France is not that far.
+Carfection chck weather and schedule on a dry day or dry part of the day. Jmo
+Dédé LABINOUZE Ha ha ha. You think there's a place in the UK like that.
+Dédé LABINOUZE yea hang on a second let me just ask David Cameron if he can stop the rain so carfection can shoot a video you melt
For a turbo car, you might want the PDk to keeping rpm high.
Dear Carfection,
I owe you an apology. I truly believed xcar had gone away and some lame corporate bs had taken it's place.
I was wrong. Clearly wrong.
Thanks, Alex.
Thanks, Carfection.
For a facelift, this generation has a lot of new stuff available. Mostly multimedia and safety things. That is great and all. But the emotion part definitely took a hit.
Even my sales guy told me that they now have to start selling the cars differently. They can't just let the potential customer go out for a drive with PSE on and then come back and sign the contract.
With this change, even though I love the new design, the 911 is not an attractive offering anymore. It's more a GT car now. The GT3 models are the only interesting 911s now. And with the turbos coming to the mid-engined models soon, there is pretty much no attractive Porsche left apart from the most extreme ones. Sad.
I hope once the batteries get lighter they ditch the turbos again and use NA engines with additional E-motors, like in the 918. That would be my preferred solution if you have to meet those useless emission regulations.
My fear is the 997.2 C4S & C4GTS cars will start becoming more expensive before I get to buy mine.
+slaWterCH
It is politics that is killing cars.
It is fake environmentalism that is driving all of this.
Yeah 911 must go hybrid, that is the more logical next step
+RaphProgListener
E-Motors are perfect for everyday family usage. And they have exceptional performance.
But they lack the sound of a ICE. That is their weakness as a sports car.
Porsche NA cars have always sound amazing. They have a pure sports grunt about them that is purely natural.
People pay a fortune for 930 turbos. Now you have a turbo even for a base model and start to complain. LOL
Yes ,and the turbo lag they complain about being half a second in the 991.2 .These cars are way nicer than 930,993 turbos - I had them all and love my 991.2 targa 4s
Great to hear Mr. Alex's 2 cents regarding the new 3.0tt Carrera S cars. The 911 range turbo motors are welcome in the high elevations of Colorado.At my driveway its 8,200ft ... My MY98 911 (993) C2S 3.6l is sucking wind .... output power is off by -20% or more. Say -3% for every 1,000ft above sea level. Turbo charging offsets this elevation negative somewhat. Go ahead Porsche AG .... turbo charge everything ......
this video wasn't as informative as I would have hoped..
+Nik Brudar Enough to make me decide which is which, so.....
David MuscleGuy which is which?
Nik Brudar non turbo.
+Nik Brudar XCAR and now Carfection was never really about that. Their reviews have always been rooted in the intangibles about the love of cars and that's why I keep coming back.
Prashanth Panicker Yes, that is true!
love the new tail lights and engine cover.
Great job on filming in the rain. It made for some really near perspectives and a nice change in scenery. Thanks for a good review.
I think the performance exhaust doesn't look good. I prefer the 4 exhaust system, looks much better
Pretty cool. you can get a 911 with a turbo and a manual gearbox again.
Yeah but it's not the most powerful model, it's not the "turbo" model so I don't see what's so great about it
Turbo kits can be upgraded. Keep an eye peeled, you're going to see specialty shop and aftermarket companies making some screamers out of these.
+Daniel Silva
Manual gearboxes aren't for Speed or Acceleration, they are for fun.
Most people who spend high amounts of money for a Car like the Turbo S or GT3 RS, aren't buying them to have fun with a Manual box, they are buying those models to be driving the fastest Porsches.
If they were manual they would lose to a 458 Italia or AMG GT...
With PDK they are faster than anything on the road that isn't a Hypercar. Think about it, really.
Sorry for my kinda unrelated question, but it seemed like it was the right time, so here it goes. If 458 and amg gt are super cars, what is a 911 carrera/carrera s? It has less power yet it can almost match them in terms of acceleration which is really odd to me. And if a 911 carrera s is a super car, then what is a 911 turbo s?
malicalik 13
I remember reading a quote from Porsche saying that they are Sports Car makers.
Every Porsche drives like a Sports car, whether it's a 911 or a Cayenne or a Panamera.
If you drive a Mercedes GLE 63 AMG, as good a car as it is, there is nothing sporty about it other than the power, when compared to a Porsche equivalent.
The Porsche Cayenne Turbo on the other hand, has sports car handling combined with power and amazing balance.
Some Porsches have Supercar Performance such as the Turbo S and GT2 RS amd GT3 RS, but they are still classified as sports cars as they did start life with the classic Sports Car 911 Body. Wings and Air Vents can't turn a Sports Car into a Supercar.
A Supercar car has to be Super in more than 1 way.
In my opinion it has to have
Super Performance - Top Porsches have
Super Looks - Only Carrera GT + 918 have
Super Sound - Only Carrera GT + 918 have
Super Interior - Only Carrera GT + 918 have
Super Price Tag - Top Porsches Have
How will the previous cars resale value react to this car? This was the prettiest 911 imo, second only to the 993. I feel like people will prefer the new model simply because it's faster. But I think the better experience would be in the previous car. Mind you I haven't driven either one.
I Could listen to this guy all day. Subscribed.
Alex Goy + Porsche = Carfection
It will be interesting to see what the Cayman is like with the new turbo. Thanks for a nice balanced view on the new 911, it looks lovely.
I do like Porsche and i think the new look is an evolution and it's like fine tuning. The main question I have is that with them now adding turbos to the 'standard' 911 will there no longer be a need for the Turbo and Turbo S? I loved the Turbo as it gave that sense of power and rawness and made it stand out, all be it with a fancy spoiler but now do you really need one?
Love the shot at 2:17 at the whingeing about the name!
Glad you're back
The music you guys use is magnificent, may I know where you get it from?
Alex Arcoleo - Shadowtalk
You can degenerate the critics all you want, but there's a good reason why the Singer exists. And don't you dare saying it's not better than all of the current Porsche models.
Sure, just one little issue: For the price of one Singer one can buy a 993 Turbo, 997.2 Turbo S AND a 991.2 Turbo S.
+Abe From an Yes, and the waiting list is very long. That says something not in Porsche's favour.
+Pan Damasque people will always appreciate and pay for the fine craftsmanship displayed in the Singer. Porsche is opening centers to restore older 911s. They have tons of love for their old cars. The new Singer Carrera 4 is bad ass.
It felt like you were forcing yourself to say you like it???
5:16 I see your camera car, Ford Focus ST :D
Whats the name of backround song? One hell of a review btw!
Shadowtalk by Alex Arcoleo
Amazing video with nice cinematography! Nice video yet again
Some scathing one-liners in there - I loved it. Nice job!
The changes only affect people who spend time on track, which would be a very small minority of drivers. For your average buyer, it's still an amazing car.
Actually the engine is in the right place. Its the best place for optimum cooling. The right place for traction and cornering. The right place for aerodynamics. The right place for uncompromised comfort. It's everyone else that's wrong.
+Flash Man ok.......
+Flash Man Tell that to Le Mans cars engineers
That opening line was class :-) well done, great video!
+Carfection Haha, good laugh though for 911 owners :-p Not what makes the video great, but a nice touch nonetheless.
Change is always hard but Porsche 911 is always going to be iconic. A lot smashed on the PDKS in the GT3's but after experiencing it they wouldn't go back. I feel Porsche will continue to be very desirable and continue to make incredible sports cars. I do prefer NA engines like my GT3 but would love to have a 991 Turbo S as well.
at 4:08, background music is lovely, can you guys tell me what is it called please?
Alex Arcoleo - Shadowtalk
PLEASE do the new Mustang GT! I would really love to hear your impressions of it considering what you get for the price. (especially here in the US but still)
Can't wait! Fingers crossed for some dry weather
The 911 represents the pure "drivers' car". Every little change they make makes it a little bit less pure. Wow, I just felt a little bit like Hitler.
Anyway, if Europe is so concerned about meeting emissions quotas and blah blah, they should try to make tankers, factories, buildings cleaner, not cars. Because, and this is one of my favorite stats ever, the largest 15-16 tankers in the world create the same amount of pollution as **all the cars in the world**. Wrap your head around that. I did, and I'm angry that the new 911 is turbo charged.
Edit: I just found this channel I love it so far. Thank you.
Nope. Do some basic research, and educate yourself away from such lies. And use some common sense: one tanker pollutes as much as 60 million cars? Dumbass. And those polluting non-cars provide the petrol you put in your car, to your petrol station.
Don't keep embarrassing yourself with such gormless clueless self-absorbed statements.
@@numbereightyseven As opposed to the diesel burning locomotives, shipping coal to burn for your electric car.
One of the most famous quotes by Enzo Ferrari is "Aerodynamics are for people who can't build engines". I would add turbos to that too.
lmao that's so ignorant it's stupid
/DRIVE sneak diss @ 2:09?
who are the critics of the 911? everybody loves the 911. the only critics of it I have seen are people who own audi's RS series...
+Mulkyan and GT-R fanboys
+Mulkyan I do not like 911's
I don't like 911's but I'm not old enough to even get a permit so I'll have to try one
I don't like Porsche not GTR not RS
Mainly people who can't afford them...
Well done gents, job well done!
props to the camera men
It has but then it hasn't. It just means that now everyone gets to get a Turbo no matter which model
Nice job on a comprehensive review. It's that "angry feeling" I would miss.
I actually respect Porsche a lot for embracing new ideas and technology, and new social expectations and attempt to engineer the faults out of it - sure they aren't always completely successful, but they always make the industry progress.
XCAR/Carfection as lovely as your videos are in terms of filming + editing quality and narration, I've never heard you criticise anything. If there is any problem/feature /quality that many other reviewers outright don't like, you usually mention as "interesting", "controversial" and then proceed to sugarcoat it. I know what car companies do to journalists if they aren't enthusiastic enough about their products, (To anyone interested, look for the story Chris Harris published about Ferrari on Jalopnik in 2011) but the fact that you just love everything you test, and the " even if it's bad it's still good" approach makes me wonder whether you're a reliable source of information. And no, I don't really care about this or any other Porsche and don't mean specifically this video, just the general picture I got having seen almost everything you guys made.
36 MPG!? What! My 2.2 litre NA Alfa Romeo gets 20MPG if I'm really careful. I'm not really careful.
Whats the name of the song at the end?
"however, even the most minute of changes are criticized and can cause them to drop the company, or product, or even a web-based car show at a moment's notice ..."
Lol it seems that way. Cheers to the #FanBoys
+Carfection what the color on the car?
Please do a fuel comparison between 991.1 and 991.2, I'm doubtful that 991.2 is more fuel efficient.
+Håkan Wilke They said about 13% more fuel efficient!
+HouseMouseAlex yes, they say that but it would be interesting to see a real world comparison.
13% more efficient at highway cruising speeds probably! More air means more fuel
The only think that we needed to know, and what was not said - is that the door for more affordable engine mods has been open and you can relatively easy blow 500hp out of it.
one day you should release the playlist of your background tracks, soooooooo good!
love the landscape, what part of Great Britain is it?
The 991.5 is a prelude for Porsche's line of Hybrids which will be on all future 911's once this initial testing is complete. Imagine the turbos being replaced by hybrid generators. The last 911 100% petrol versions are now complete. The new era of 911's is here.
It is a 911 Turbo Lite.
Not exactly Carrera S.
Lovely car but I wouldn't swap it for my 991 4 GTS. The engine note on mine is just amazing and one I wouldn't want to give up.
You bring up a good point in this vid. Will Porsche now have to change the name of the 911 Turbo to something different now that they will all be turbos?
What's that soundtrack towards the end?
Great video. But more importantly where did you get that jacket?
Porsche 911 turbo has turbos everyone loses their mind. 911 R has a manual gearbox everyone loses their mind. Carrera S has both the turbos and a manual gearbox nobody bats an eye.
Good on ya for the honest review! I'm excited for 2-reasons- Easy to get more HP out of a turbo car. My 996 might start increasing in value! =)
Turbocharging to meet emissions regulations. I wonder about that. Since most of the major hi-per manufacturers still have at least one naturally aspirated car. Porsche still has the NA GT2 (I assume the GT3 RS, 2019 ver) will still be NA). So, if Porsche can still put out a 500 HP NA fat-6...what is the REAL reason why they chose to TT the Carrera's?? Why has Ferrari TT their 488 but not their 812 SUperfast? Why are Lamborghini's still NA? (e.g. Huracan's...Aventador's...etc.). Could Porsche not put a "de-turned" GT3 engine in the Carrera cars?? :)
Carfection my arse!!!
Wtf is this name
This is Porsche so do you get both turbos as standard or is the second an optional extra?
This is one beautiful interior, I got to say. No problem with the turbo for me, modern cars just have turbos. They dont have lags anymore and they don't rev like the average 1.6L TDI Jetta.
great video and love the review... you rock bro.
1:44 hey hey hey!! we all know what a 911 is all about!? driving!! righ?! one the most direct, engaged relationship between man and machine! isn't?, turbos lack of linear precise power!! that's why even no fan boys are complaining about!
Give that thing a tune and you have yourself a new widow maker.
There is one big advantage to those turbos though. You should be able to tune that turbo engine and get another 75-125 bhp. Won't work in a naturally aspirated car. So you'd get 911 turbo level performance on the cheap. I expect the next 911 to be a hybrid with turbos and electric engine for torque fill.
I think you guys should have a go with Koenigsegg. I think they might let you drive an RS or maybe later, an Regera.
Fifth gear, top gear and EVO (written article by Chris Harris) have criticized previous of their models and on the other hand Koenigsegg has a filled order book... so it is not that important to let a lot of journalists have a go in their current models.
But I tend to think that the way Carfection makes its videos, should allign with the way Christian himself likes to present his products.
So go for it!
Thanks for all the content
Karl
I will tell you what dilutes the brand: I had put $12k into my 997.1 C2S to get it to 400bhp. Something tells me that in about 6 months time tuners will have these cars up to 500-520bhp with tune and minor exhaust tweaks alone and a lot more TQ than any NA GTS or even GT3. That exhaust note my car makes over 5,000rpm. You cannot match that turbo. Speed wise - this turbo 3.0 will make all 3.6 and 3.8L NA motors obsolete. I bet you a lightly tuned 3.0T will be slightly faster than a 991.1 GT3 RS in both 0-60 and 1/4 mile. Oh, well... You cannot have it all I recon.
+Tim Tursonoff
Turbo's have a whine to their engine. NA have a natural growl. All these turbos will suit customers like you.
But they may loose people like me. The future of performance cars is bleak. Porsche have not gone down the turbo route out of choice they are being forced down this route by EU regulations.
Socialists want to reduce the size of car engines. These same socialists regulated the market place and encouraged drivers to go over to diesel and now they want to ban those diesels because they say they are bad for the environment.
haha, like that little jab at your change of name
IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS FOR SO LONG!!!
At 6:10 is tha a cassette slot under the CD slot?
+Marios Hadjineophytou No. Memory Chip, Cellular Chip slot and what not.
+JAMAL AL MARRI cool thanks!
Aftermarket exhaust with anti-lag, it will be MAD
Brilliant review, answered all the questions I had about the new turbo engines.
polo gti video review coming?
what was the name before carfection?
+carfection Great video as always, also the 911 actually sounds quite nice.
Was this XCAR? Please let us know why the name changed. Thanks
lol great reference to changing the name and dropping the car show at a moments notice.
Where was this filmed?
Is it GT silver or regular silver?
I like the new edgeless nav screen, Wish mine had that.. Very cool
Miss your reviews
No worries. Most of us are not that kind of fanatic enthusiasts and will continue to watch X-Car despite you having messed up the name. And since you have no need to manage any future emissions like Porsche, we are confident you will change it back to it's proper name. After all, the majority of time, changes are for the better. But sometimes they are not.
+Fast Er Hahaha. :)
+Fast Er
Porsche sports cars that are NA are not the reason for emissions. It is the average family car that causes the emissions because there is far more of them on the road.
Electric cars for the family (and single people as well) is the way of the future. That means there can be far greater filtering of emissions at the power plant and also recycling of particle materials and gases.
Petrol based sports cars will have very little effect on the environment.
Does this mean that the Vario Cam Plus ( variable valve timing )has gone?
Nice pack shot at 1m 05s... ;)
Is there ever dry where you are filming?
It's in the UK in late winter,of course it's not gonna be dry. We only get like 5 days of summer here :D
welcome to UK mate
How high an engine revs has nothing to do with being turbo or not
How does the manual gearbox feel compared to the first-gen car's?
you are doing a great job never mind the inclement weather.
I keep seeing these vids of people praising the new turbo--not turbo Porsche's-- power. I haven't seen anyone talk about the one question that used to be number one with turbo car tests. What about turbo lag? Is the power linear? How does it really compare with a proper engine (yes I'm not a fan of turbos)?
it sounds exactly like an older nsx and that good in a way
I do really like the new centre R32 style exhausts