Here are some great videos of Hansi and Jerobeam (Chris) showing some of the behind the scenes "making of": This great talk by Hansi about the software and how he met Chris: ruclips.net/video/iM5BW75CKJQ/видео.html This short one showing them working together on some of the tracks: ruclips.net/video/IUNLm6kXMy0/видео.html I kid you not, I applauded spontaneously mid way through the first one.
Youre exactly right! It sounds like an FM synth cause that's one of the two main effects he uses, FM and RM, to make the shapes. He uses one wave's frequency to Modulate the Frequency (FM) of another.
No that's not proof, Jerobeam Fenderson makes his music on digital software: Pure Data, MaxMSP, Ableton, OsciStudio & Blender. You can achieve the same results with a FM synth, digital or analogue.
@@MilezAwxy What a heck are you trying to say? No matter what tools you use for making art, absolutely doesn't undo the fact of purely analogue end result where incredible picture art gets conveyed by incredibly pleasing musical audio signal by very nature of purely analogue world.
That's because sirens are designed with music theory concepts in mind, even the oldfashioned rotor ones. The rotors had specfic mathematical numbers of rotors on each of the two spinners to do this. Sirens are designed to create extremely dissonant, out of tune chords between two notes. This is disturbing and generally creepy to the human ear, and this is on purpose. Honestly the old rotor sirens do a better job of it in almost all cases. Except the Chicago tornado sirens I swear they are more terrifying than the event itself.
Also some nice phasing and binaural beats. You see what's going on with the change in harmonics. If SETI ever gets "dubstep music" from space, this should be one of the ways it needs to be looked at. Messages purposely sent out are likely to be made fairly obvious, and this is one way where not too much math is needed for the icons and pictograms to be right there.
yes, we do a lot of scoping together. but in this case it's completely jerobeams work. (there's also no osci studio used for the space scene at 13:11 , it's all done in max/pd ). a lot of it is really hard to credit actually, because everything exists already and it's just a matter of piecing it together differently. e.g. here's the butterfly: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butterfly_curve_(transcendental) and here are 3d projections: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3D_projection .
+hansiraber Great to have you here! I am pretty convinced that even if I had been armed with the equations and the software I would not have come up with anything remotely as nice as this. Hats off to both of you!
8:30 Noooo!!! Right when he was gonna do the 3d mushroom field part of the demo! I wanted to see how that was gonna look on the bottom display! Just 5 more seconds maaannn... Why interupt it right there? Ohhh the pain...
Very nicely done! I really like seeing the individual channel traces, I’ve been following Jerobeam for years and i think that is the first time I’ve seen those.
I guess what's even more surprising is that analogue to digital to analogue can still produce these intricate patterns despite the approximation of digitising techniques
When I was a teen in the 70's, I built what was called a lissie. Saw it in a magazine. black and white tv, remove the yoke and leave it connected. Then slip another one on. connect to two 70v audio transformers and feed it from a stereo. Pretty much the same effect. very cool demo Marc!
That's an excellent idea! I think you can generate your own using Hansi Raber's OsciStudio software: oscilloscopemusic.com/oscistudio.php . That's Jerobeam's friend. Jerobeam also shows how you can use other free tools to make mathematical shapes easily here: oscilloscopemusic.com/software.php . I suspect you could do you test screen with these.
Right on! Funny... I happened to be playing a vintage Battlezone video game while on lysergic acid diethylamide just last week and that's pretty much what I was witnessing the whole time.
I love how when the lissajous figures are moving, you can make them rotate in different directions if you try hard enough. they tend to rotate along the y axis by default for me, but i can force that to change
9:33 Amazing feat here. The shape seriously and eerily reminds me of the star fortress all over the world. Immediately where my mind went to. Does anyone else know what im talking about?
Это надо показать Тиесто =D возможно скоро нужно будет ожидать такой психодел на известных дискотеках мира. Но это не точно. Очень круто сделано. В этом видео есть своя особая гипнотическая эстетика.
Damn, takes me back to working in a test equipment calibration Lab, dread to think how many hours i wasted trying to get the most interesting non sinusoidal waveform on my Scope.
Awesome !! these projections would have been right at home at a Gong concert ; ) Have played around with lissajous patterns but nothing like this !! - time to put my scope & sig-gen back to use, must try to recreate : D
Here are some great videos of Hansi and Jerobeam (Chris) showing some of the behind the scenes "making of":
This great talk by Hansi about the software and how he met Chris: ruclips.net/video/iM5BW75CKJQ/видео.html
This short one showing them working together on some of the tracks: ruclips.net/video/IUNLm6kXMy0/видео.html
I kid you not, I applauded spontaneously mid way through the first one.
The most amazing thing is how listenable it is as music
i really like how the flute signal looks on the XY display :D
If my brain is ever transferred into a robot, I want an oscilloscope for my mouth
Skooks entire face*
@@GenesisRasphotos entire body*
yes
Like Caren from Spongebob?
I WANT TO BE AN OSCILLOSCOPE
"And of course we want the mushrooms to move just like in real life" LOL the guy must've been on mushrooms when he made that!
He definitely was 😂🤣
It's a reference to the kick starter promo for a vectorscope album
Infected mushroom
this reminds me of the instrument in futurama that alllows people to create pictures with music
Holophonor ?
I have never been so amazed in my life.
I was so flashed !
Has a really really cool vibe to it.
Sounds like an FM sound synth. Has this old school demo feel to it.
love it
haha, reminds me of going straight to the local computer shop straight after college and grabbing the latest demo disk fro the Amiga 500
Youre exactly right! It sounds like an FM synth cause that's one of the two main effects he uses, FM and RM, to make the shapes. He uses one wave's frequency to Modulate the Frequency (FM) of another.
proof of the incredible and mesmerising beauty of the natural analogue world
Created with the OsciStudio software.
No that's not proof, Jerobeam Fenderson makes his music on digital software: Pure Data, MaxMSP, Ableton, OsciStudio & Blender. You can achieve the same results with a FM synth, digital or analogue.
@@MilezAwxy What a heck are you trying to say? No matter what tools you use for making art, absolutely doesn't undo the fact of purely analogue end result where incredible picture art gets conveyed by incredibly pleasing musical audio signal by very nature of purely analogue world.
@@MilezAwxy Yes but the image won't be as "warm".
I CAN'T EVEN FUCKING 3D ANIMATE AND THAT GUY DOES IT ON A FREAKING ANALOG OSZILLOSCOPE
Lot's of patience, I bet.
passionce
maybe you should get you a KORG Workstation.....
Naah. It's all math.
Lots of math, engineering, and creativity. I'm trying to make my own oscilloscope art framework.
I've been wanting an old analog scope for a while. this just put it higher up on the list!
3:46 I swear I can see a hollow tube made of chicken wire rotating. The thing is, I can change which way it’s rotating. Up, down, left, right.
WOAH
Actually... that’s the Dual Axis Illusion, awarded the Best Illusion of the Year... in 2019. More than three years after this video was published.
WOW this is freaking awesome, no idea how I missed this entire concept, especially with 8 scopes sitting around idle... Thanks for the vid!
at 3:46, that's the same exact tone that comes out of a Federal Signal Modulator dual tone electronic siren. I mean, even the pitch matches.
That's because sirens are designed with music theory concepts in mind, even the oldfashioned rotor ones. The rotors had specfic mathematical numbers of rotors on each of the two spinners to do this. Sirens are designed to create extremely dissonant, out of tune chords between two notes. This is disturbing and generally creepy to the human ear, and this is on purpose.
Honestly the old rotor sirens do a better job of it in almost all cases. Except the Chicago tornado sirens I swear they are more terrifying than the event itself.
@@axipixel5811 hell yeah no idea what you said but I agree
Now input this waveform into a tesla coil array!
So, that is how the Infected Mushroom do their music!
Also some nice phasing and binaural beats. You see what's going on with the change in harmonics.
If SETI ever gets "dubstep music" from space, this should be one of the ways it needs to be looked at. Messages purposely sent out are likely to be made fairly obvious, and this is one way where not too much math is needed for the icons and pictograms to be right there.
It's actually not entirely his work. The DSP algorithms for the 3D projections were developed by mathematician Hansi Raber.
The software Raber developed (and anyone can get it at: asdfg.me/oscistudio/index_grey.html) deserves ample credit.
yes, we do a lot of scoping together. but in this case it's completely jerobeams work. (there's also no osci studio used for the space scene at 13:11 , it's all done in max/pd ).
a lot of it is really hard to credit actually, because everything exists already and it's just a matter of piecing it together differently. e.g. here's the butterfly: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butterfly_curve_(transcendental) and here are 3d projections: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3D_projection .
+hansiraber Great to have you here! I am pretty convinced that even if I had been armed with the equations and the software I would not have come up with anything remotely as nice as this. Hats off to both of you!
woah... are you douro20 on lighting-gallery?
alertec2202
Yes.
8:30 Noooo!!! Right when he was gonna do the 3d mushroom field part of the demo! I wanted to see how that was gonna look on the bottom display! Just 5 more seconds maaannn... Why interupt it right there? Ohhh the pain...
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I know right? I was just about to be like "Yes I finally get to see how it works!!" and then it's gone.
Maybe that is a sign. You must buy an oscilloscope!! It will change your life!!!
Here you go m.ruclips.net/video/rtR63-ecUNo/видео.html
Very nicely done! I really like seeing the individual channel traces, I’ve been following Jerobeam for years and i think that is the first time I’ve seen those.
Absolutely amazing! Coolest experiment ive seen since Cymatics.
I guess what's even more surprising is that analogue to digital to analogue can still produce these intricate patterns despite the approximation of digitising techniques
If you make the approximations small enough, they have minimal effect.
Imgine this on LSD, woah
imagine that your brain uses the same math, as the visuals are comparable, while on acid ;)
I love how some notes appear as a rotating sort of basket. Certain sounds are not only sonically beautiful but also visually.
When I was a teen in the 70's, I built what was called a lissie. Saw it in a magazine. black and white tv, remove the yoke and leave it connected. Then slip another one on. connect to two 70v audio transformers and feed it from a stereo. Pretty much the same effect. very cool demo Marc!
way cool. thanks for sharing. particularly the dual view with the two channels separated.
Can’t imagine the time involved in something like that… pretty neat
Thanks for a transcendent video, @CuriousMarc!
The grand finale is spectacular. Great mind food.
COOL video ! I connected my stereo to and old 21 inch TV's yolk doing the same thing back in the late 70's, neat as hell !
others have done this many times before, but this guys work is awesome aswell !
WOOOOOW this is amazing. I don't even have words for express how I liked it.
Returning to watch this years later and it still sends me into a geek drool :)
This oscilloscope is way way much better compared to some of the other ones where the other ones have mismatching lines on their display.
Beautiful. I love analog oscilloscopes or at least analog display.
This is quite interesting as it clearly shows the distinct link between music and mathematics.
This is amazingly mind-blowing!
Talk about having a hidden digital Easter egg in music.
This is a continuous clutch of Easter eggs!👍
Analog easter egg ;)
I would say that slightly psychedelic is an understatement !!!
I want some oscilloscope music that displays a geometric calibration pattern like the very expensive calibration plugins generate!
That's an excellent idea! I think you can generate your own using Hansi Raber's OsciStudio software: oscilloscopemusic.com/oscistudio.php . That's Jerobeam's friend. Jerobeam also shows how you can use other free tools to make mathematical shapes easily here: oscilloscopemusic.com/software.php . I suspect you could do you test screen with these.
@@CuriousMarc oooh this software looks good, i'll see what it can do!
Nice lab you got going there! I love the *smell* of classic electronics! Electronics that were built by the pound!
Whet you said was 2/3, a muaical fifth, was 3/4, a musical fourth.the next interval was a fifth.
Those illuminated pushbuttons on the oscilloscope are great, I wish more electronics had illuminated pushbuttons.
Right on! Funny... I happened to be playing a vintage Battlezone video game while on lysergic acid diethylamide just last week and that's pretty much what I was witnessing the whole time.
As cool as this is, I always had doubts about this being legit, it's so cool that this album is.
This is just amazing, how simple is the idea
This is legitimately hypnotic
Absolutely Mesmerizing!
thats just goes to show that a lot of tech from the past is still useful today
Is this how sound creates the universe?
that was more fun than any other mainstream music
Aha! You replicated my "scope degoozerizer!" It's a fun circuit!
sounds like NiN! great music and visuals. cant wait to try these while on
that was seriously dope. Jerobeam Fenderson is a genius.
You enlighten us CuriosMarc!
Thousands of cats and dogs are going nuts right now as people are watching you make lissajous patterns with the function generator.
Thanks for this and all your great videos. Cheers.
11:27
I love how there are also shrooms on the bottom display
Looking at sound ! simply awesome.
I have no idea wtf is happening, but it is amazing.
I love how when the lissajous figures are moving, you can make them rotate in different directions if you try hard enough. they tend to rotate along the y axis by default for me, but i can force that to change
Now I get the whole TRSI "Beams of Light" demo!
What's the album you showed called?
I think just "Oscilloscope Music". I added the link in the description.
CuriousMarc Thanks!
Great stuff - thank you for showing!
man, i really want an oscilloscope; even more than before now!
4:50 woah why does it feels good to hear this, i like it 👍👍👍
this feels like something from the future we never had. from a parallel universe
9:33 Amazing feat here. The shape seriously and eerily reminds me of the star fortress all over the world. Immediately where my mind went to. Does anyone else know what im talking about?
wow ive been hypnotized!!!!
i can see this as a great music style
Everybody got,
mixed feelings,
about the function and the form.
Everybody got to deviate from the norm.
I actually did stuff like this to test a vector scope i made from an old tv. First thing was sine, and cosine circle, then i made lissajous curves.
So cool! I'd love to see a slow motion capture of this.
Imagine Kraftwerk's 'Wir sind der roboter' played all together with this. Super!
woah this is amazing
Fourier series are so beautiful
I wish you had left the lower image in view for all of it. I've already seen the main view from the original videos.
thank you marc
That's amazing. Oh my gosh. I need to have this, too. :O
Oh wow I just got to the 'music' track bit, my 465 is getting a work out tomorrow.
Это надо показать Тиесто =D возможно скоро нужно будет ожидать такой психодел на известных дискотеках мира.
Но это не точно.
Очень круто сделано. В этом видео есть своя особая гипнотическая эстетика.
I had to buy a copy of this after watching it.
That’s next level!
I’m geeking and tripping out all at once! Lol
"We want our mushroom to move, just like in real life"
that was awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I left youtube on my pc for 2 hours and left the room. This is what I came back to.
Welcome
That's knowing your waveforms!
Now to somehow connect this up as a display to a computer
Much easier than you think if you know what you are doing
WOW! Amazing
Analogue mushrooms. Very cool. :)
Damn, takes me back to working in a test equipment calibration Lab, dread to think how many hours i wasted trying to get the most interesting non sinusoidal waveform on my Scope.
Never seen that before but as an EE and a music producer, holfuckingsht thats fucking awesome.
Awesome, thanks.
Awesome !! these projections would have been right at home at a Gong concert ; )
Have played around with lissajous patterns but nothing like this !!
- time to put my scope & sig-gen back to use, must try to recreate : D
Jump to 12:13 for marijuana leaf.
makes sense because the track is about drugs.
"Here's an octave, right here"
Scope displays a figure 8
jerobeam fenderson is actually german living in vienna/austria! ;)
Google confirms you are right! His real name is Christian Ludwig, lives in Austria. Sorry for the confusion.
CuriousMarc Holy shit, I need to visit this guy, I'm like 2 hours away from him only since I live in Austria too
AMAZING
I think they used effects like these in FUTUREWORLD, STAR TREK: The Motion Picture, and UFO: Target Earth - - all from the 1970's
I LOVE IT!!!! I got to build my own!
Thanks for sharing, that was nice :)