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I'm writing this comment as I sit in my Winnebago parked on the Hon-Dah RV Resort on the White Mountain Apache Reservation in Arizona. One of these Viking encounters I've come across involved the Norsemen giving the natives milk as a friendly gesture. The natives woke up that night vomiting and suffering from severe diarrhea. Convinced that the Norsemen had poisoned them, the natives later attacked. Having grown up in my Anglo-Saxon version of America, I was quite surprised as a teenager to learn that some people can't drink milk. My brother and I went through it such that my mother swore at one point she was going to buy a cow. I asked one of the Apache waitresses over at the Indian Pine Restaurant whether she could drink it. She said she could tolerate it, but had members of her family for whom it was the intestinal kiss of death. Interesting that lactase-persistent Indo-Europeans developed their traits not too terribly far from where Native Americans originated, and that the first instance of blond hair was found in south-central Siberia--much closer to the area in question. What a genetically diverse region.
I am South American, but most people here can digest milk, I guess only natives of pure ancestry have serious problems tolerating it. According to studies, only East Asians and Native Americans are almost completely intolerant, South Asians, Middle Easterners and Africans have tolerance although at lower frequencies than Europeans.
@TroyDowVanZandt Yes, that is right in the Viking chronicles. In fact, in one of his lectures, Professor Ken Harl, one of the best lecturers in "The Great Courses" lectures, mentions this incident and says just what you are penning here. Yours is a very good comment, and the anecdote that you recount adds even more to it.
@@user-yt3xd2jl6d Most people in the Americas have some European DNA, particularly in the male line, and that is probably why they both survived European diseases and can digest milk. You quite correct that it is likely only the ones without some of that DNA that cannot handle drinking milk.
Interesting fact about one group of Native American folks: the linguistic group of Athabaskan speakers related to the Ket of Siberia. Though it seemed bizarre, Ket reminded Vajda of Athabaskan, a family of languages spoken by Natives in Alaska and western North America. He found several words that were similar, including canoe, wolverine, head, finger, conifer needle and mosquito. He tested the words for significance and found their relationship was stronger than coincidence. About 3,200 hundred miles and four intervening language families separate today’s speakers of Ket from those who still speak what researchers know as Na-Dene (Tlingit, Eyak and Athabaskan). The ancient language connection between central Siberia and North America raises the question of which group was speaking it first, and did they carry the language east or west over Bering Strait? The desert southwest of America also has Athabaskan linguistic groups aka Navajo and Apache. There are Athabaskan speakers in Canada. The ancients spread far in North America becoming one of the largest indigenous groups of North America.
I've been to LAnse aux Meadows. It's beautiful if you get there on a sunny, summer day. It appears to have been a small way station occupied for a decade maybe. It was discovered by Scandinavian scientists following the the directions in the Sagas and then the local Newfies pointed them to the exact spot. They thought it was an old Indian village.
@naponroy Vikings is the common, modern name for Norsemen, known by all. They were raiders, warriors, trades, mercenaries and settlers: It all depended on the circumstances.
@@RCSVirginia look up what "vikingr" means in Old Norse. I'm going to bet you don't speak Norwegian or Swedish, but yes, I can assure you, it means raider. Eric the Red and those out of Iceland and Greenland were Norsemen.
@celtichistorydecoded I don't have an idea about how many papers about the genetics of north africa are out there but I'm pretty confident they aren't as many as those about the genetics of Europe or north America. It would be great to be able to participate in the discussion.
@@hiccuphorrendoushaddock2305 Sorry I actually misread your initial comment as North America for North Africa. I am planning on doing some North African countries as well moving forward, and I'm looking forward to researching more into them. I'm sure I can find some interesting stuff about Morocco, Egypt etc. Thanks
This is very interesting for me. I was adopted at 7 days old and never knew my birth parents. I recently found out through DNA, that I'm 20% Native American, along with Scottish and Welsh.
True. But some groups specifically in northern North America have less ANE and more similarity to modern day Siberians as they likely came in a more recent wave of immigration compared to the Beringians. Meanwhile some South American native groups can score up to 40% ANE autosomal DNA.
Very nice video and amazing topic. As native americans get fully east eurasian genetic features like snub nose, short/average height, darker eye and skin colors etc., this proves that both C, Q, R ydna and A-X, B, C, D mtdna are originally east eurasian haplogroups. Moreover, mal'ta boy and ancient north eurasians were east eurasians consequently. I want to add my opinion about ydna haplogroups: C1, C2 - austronesians, polynesians, C3 - mongolic, tungusic, C4 - aborigin australians, D1 - tibetan, burmanese, andamanese, D2 - ainu, jomon japanese, and M - melanesians, papuans, N1 - paleosiberians, N2, N3 - finnic, samoyedic, uralic, O1, O2 - vietnamese, thai, sinitic, O3 - koreanic, japonic, P - aeta, negrito, philippinese, P1 - siberians, altai turkic, Q1a - yeniseian, ket, Q1b - native american, R, R1 - mal'ta boy, north eurasians, uyghur turkic, R2 - tamil, dravidian, srilankan etc. These people were uralic-altaic, dene-caucasian and other related agglutinative speaking east eurasians. I mean all M, N, O, P, Q, R, S ydna are originated from east eurasia even european, indian male R1a, R1b ydna.
@@serkankinden5150 It's not. X2a found in the Americas descends from X2. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_X_(mtDNA)#:~:text=Haplogroup%20X%20is%20a%20human%20mitochondrial%20DNA%20(mtDNA)%20haplogroup.%20It
R1B Celtic /Western European haplogroup, but also the haplogroup of the Ancient Egyptians. Anyways, back to the native Americans, just read the creation legends of most tribes, the vast majority say a very long time ago they came from Pleiades star system.
This happened between 20-25 thousand years ago. The ice age drove them into N. America, through Central and S. America. Another group that left the North Pole, was Aryans, cow herders.
Cheers a I salute I wonder if you can do a video about the uralic people's like Finnish and sami ngansans they have a deep impact on Scandinavian people I'm of Bell beaker folk genetics also Finnish people Sami I don't think Norwegian yes I got some uralic people's phenotype from Scandinavian country and British Irish Scottish and gaelic uralic people's are like the back ground only you can explain uralic people's thanks for the video and cheers I salute
Middle Eastern populations are not genetically homogeneous. They have at least five distinct ancestries: Anatolian farmers (ancient Turks and Greeks), Natufians (ancestral population of the Middle East), farmers of the Levant, hunter gatherers of the Caucasus, and Iranian farmers.
According to the G25 ethnic calculator they are genetically closest to the Samaritans with a genetic distance of 0.022 followed by Palestinian Christians 0.022, followed by Jordanian Christians 0.023, followed by Syrian Christians 0.028, followed by Lebanese Christians 0.028, followed by the Druze 0.031, these would be the closest. Then slightly further away would be in first place Palestinian Muslims 0.042, Lebanese Christians 0.044, Syrian Muslims 0.045.
It seems that the Samaritans are the closest descendants of the original Jews at least from a genetic perspective. The Samaritans are an ethnic group that always lived in Israel, then the Christian groups of the Middle East (Palestinians, Lebanese and Syrians). The Ancient Jews were farmers from the Levant, and today the Syrians and Lebanese are 90% farmers from the Levant, which would explain their genetic affinity.
@@user-yt3xd2jl6dYes. Samaritans remained isolated so they reflect ancient DNA the most. Christians generally did not intermarry with muslims also, who were more cosmopolitan. European Jews ended up getting some ancient Italian ancestry, so their DNA is shifted towards Europeans compared to Samaritans.
Ancient north eurasians…turks are also among this group… these groups are even the protocultures of the so many civilizations that were formed in europe and other regions on earth… approximately around 2/3 rd of the 🌎
There's also been Iberians found and Old Irish around the time gaels went to Ireland and possibly others romans and Persians found in Canada all these groups would be before Scandinavians
@rockraprecords5198 The Iberian Irish connection can be explained in two instances. One, Neolithic European Farmers originally from Anatolia travelled two routes into and Europe, one long the Mediterranean the other through the Balkans before meeting up again in France. These were the megalith builders of places like Stonehenge and Newgrange. The other is the spread Bellbeaker and later Celtic ‘Celtic Gauls from the area of France’ cultures. Celts have some genetic diversity but fairly strong cultural continuity from places as far as Ireland and Britain, to Iberia and Anatolia, ‘modern day Turkey’ the part about Roman and Persian settlements in Canada? The only thing I can think that may have lead some people to that conclusion is early genetics picking up on Indo-European ’steppe’ ancestry in Canada, which would of been British not Persian or Roman. Incidentally they’re all have IE ancestry.
Interesting, I have heard some references to this, I had thought in Florida? I would be curious to know the time period and if we are looking at two separate events? Also if this may be a branch of a continental Indo-European language branch, such as Romano - Gaulish? It can’t go to far back and still be a identifiable ‘written’ Iberian language, because other then ruinic type things and Greek in the hands of druids, literacy wasn’t a major part of Western and Northern Europeans technology, art and culture on a whole. RUclips is horrible about allowing links, but would you mind referring me to some articles? The other thing is, Celts from Britain and Ireland were brought on Viking expedition as Wife’s, slaves and high status warriors. Ancient DNA from Iceland, as well as mainland Scandinavian shows this. Anyway, I’m open to checking out these references. Thank Josh.
I'll have to look at my files and show ya and it is believed to be Iberian or Iberian Celtic scripts translations vary but I do have the video somewhere that has academic resources
There is some misinformation here. Not all nations can be linked to Siberia. Also, your thumbnail has a typical Eurocentric pretendian up. Before colonization, we were dark red skinned with phenotypically distinct look with straight dark hair.
The whole Human Race was dark skinned. Europeans were black, brown and then due to the Indo European aka Yamnaya were fair skin. According to most scientists and 23andme mankind came from Africa via South Africa or East Africa.
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I'm writing this comment as I sit in my Winnebago parked on the Hon-Dah RV Resort on the White Mountain Apache Reservation in Arizona. One of these Viking encounters I've come across involved the Norsemen giving the natives milk as a friendly gesture. The natives woke up that night vomiting and suffering from severe diarrhea. Convinced that the Norsemen had poisoned them, the natives later attacked. Having grown up in my Anglo-Saxon version of America, I was quite surprised as a teenager to learn that some people can't drink milk. My brother and I went through it such that my mother swore at one point she was going to buy a cow. I asked one of the Apache waitresses over at the Indian Pine Restaurant whether she could drink it. She said she could tolerate it, but had members of her family for whom it was the intestinal kiss of death. Interesting that lactase-persistent Indo-Europeans developed their traits not too terribly far from where Native Americans originated, and that the first instance of blond hair was found in south-central Siberia--much closer to the area in question. What a genetically diverse region.
Really interesting comment, thanks
I am South American, but most people here can digest milk, I guess only natives of pure ancestry have serious problems tolerating it. According to studies, only East Asians and Native Americans are almost completely intolerant, South Asians, Middle Easterners and Africans have tolerance although at lower frequencies than Europeans.
@TroyDowVanZandt
Yes, that is right in the Viking chronicles. In fact, in one of his lectures, Professor Ken Harl, one of the best lecturers in "The Great Courses" lectures, mentions this incident and says just what you are penning here. Yours is a very good comment, and the anecdote that you recount adds even more to it.
@@user-yt3xd2jl6d
Most people in the Americas have some European DNA, particularly in the male line, and that is probably why they both survived European diseases and can digest milk. You quite correct that it is likely only the ones without some of that DNA that cannot handle drinking milk.
You are visiting my home state. I was raised near the San Carlos Apache reservation but I myself am Jèmez Pueblo with New Mexico roots.
The Ainu people of Hokkaido have been linked to the Cherokee, Sioux, and Blackfoot peoples interestingly.
that would be awesome and wild, but not super shocking.
Interesting fact about one group of Native American folks: the linguistic group of Athabaskan speakers related to the Ket of Siberia.
Though it seemed bizarre, Ket reminded Vajda of Athabaskan, a family of languages spoken by Natives in Alaska and western North America. He found several words that were similar, including canoe, wolverine, head, finger, conifer needle and mosquito. He tested the words for significance and found their relationship was stronger than coincidence. About 3,200 hundred miles and four intervening language families separate today’s speakers of Ket from those who still speak what researchers know as Na-Dene (Tlingit, Eyak and Athabaskan). The ancient language connection between central Siberia and North America raises the question of which group was speaking it first, and did they carry the language east or west over Bering Strait?
The desert southwest of America also has Athabaskan linguistic groups aka Navajo and Apache. There are Athabaskan speakers in Canada. The ancients spread far in North America becoming one of the largest indigenous groups of North America.
I've been to LAnse aux Meadows. It's beautiful if you get there on a sunny, summer day. It appears to have been a small way station occupied for a decade maybe. It was discovered by Scandinavian scientists following the the directions in the Sagas and then the local Newfies pointed them to the exact spot. They thought it was an old Indian village.
Not Vikings. Norsemen. Vikings are raiders not settlers and traders.
@naponroy
Vikings is the common, modern name for Norsemen, known by all. They were raiders, warriors, trades, mercenaries and settlers: It all depended on the circumstances.
@@RCSVirginia look up what "vikingr" means in Old Norse. I'm going to bet you don't speak Norwegian or Swedish, but yes, I can assure you, it means raider. Eric the Red and those out of Iceland and Greenland were Norsemen.
Any mention of Haplogroup X?
Yes 5:18
just when i thought you'd do a video about the genetics of north africa after finishing europe you aploaded this
Thanks. Europe is not finished yet though (I just wanted to mix it up slightly), new video coming soon :)
@celtichistorydecoded I don't have an idea about how many papers about the genetics of north africa are out there but I'm pretty confident they aren't as many as those about the genetics of Europe or north America. It would be great to be able to participate in the discussion.
@@hiccuphorrendoushaddock2305 Sorry I actually misread your initial comment as North America for North Africa. I am planning on doing some North African countries as well moving forward, and I'm looking forward to researching more into them. I'm sure I can find some interesting stuff about Morocco, Egypt etc. Thanks
@@celtichistorydecoded waiting for it
This is very interesting for me. I was adopted at 7 days old and never knew my birth parents. I recently found out through DNA, that I'm 20% Native American, along with Scottish and Welsh.
They're ancient North eurasian+East asian paleolithic
True. But some groups specifically in northern North America have less ANE and more similarity to modern day Siberians as they likely came in a more recent wave of immigration compared to the Beringians. Meanwhile some South American native groups can score up to 40% ANE autosomal DNA.
Very nice video and amazing topic. As native americans get fully east eurasian genetic features like snub nose, short/average height, darker eye and skin colors etc., this proves that both C, Q, R ydna and A-X, B, C, D mtdna are originally east eurasian haplogroups. Moreover, mal'ta boy and ancient north eurasians were east eurasians consequently.
I want to add my opinion about ydna haplogroups:
C1, C2 - austronesians, polynesians,
C3 - mongolic, tungusic,
C4 - aborigin australians,
D1 - tibetan, burmanese, andamanese,
D2 - ainu, jomon japanese,
and
M - melanesians, papuans,
N1 - paleosiberians,
N2, N3 - finnic, samoyedic, uralic,
O1, O2 - vietnamese, thai, sinitic,
O3 - koreanic, japonic,
P - aeta, negrito, philippinese,
P1 - siberians, altai turkic,
Q1a - yeniseian, ket,
Q1b - native american,
R, R1 - mal'ta boy, north eurasians, uyghur turkic,
R2 - tamil, dravidian, srilankan etc.
These people were uralic-altaic, dene-caucasian and other related agglutinative speaking east eurasians.
I mean all M, N, O, P, Q, R, S ydna are originated from east eurasia even european, indian male R1a, R1b ydna.
X is not East Eurasian but West Eurasian. It's not found east of the Altai mountains, but only in the Middle East and Europe.
@@ernietbone4168 This is extremely wrong, X mtdna is mutations of A mtdna, you should first inspect A mtdna.
@@serkankinden5150 It's not. X2a found in the Americas descends from X2. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_X_(mtDNA)#:~:text=Haplogroup%20X%20is%20a%20human%20mitochondrial%20DNA%20(mtDNA)%20haplogroup.%20It
@@ernietbone4168 Are you kidding?! X, X2 mtdna all are descendants of A mtdna. You cant think X without A mtdna.
@@serkankinden5150 I showed you the facts and you just can't accept it.
R1B Celtic /Western European haplogroup, but also the haplogroup of the Ancient Egyptians. Anyways, back to the native Americans, just read the creation legends of most tribes, the vast majority say a very long time ago they came from Pleiades star system.
This happened between 20-25 thousand years ago. The ice age drove them into N. America, through Central and S. America. Another group that left the North Pole, was Aryans, cow herders.
Thanks
Cheers a I salute I wonder if you can do a video about the uralic people's like Finnish and sami ngansans they have a deep impact on Scandinavian people I'm of Bell beaker folk genetics also Finnish people Sami I don't think Norwegian yes I got some uralic people's phenotype from Scandinavian country and British Irish Scottish and gaelic uralic people's are like the back ground only you can explain uralic people's thanks for the video and cheers I salute
Thanks. That video is coming at some point in the next few months probably, it's really interesting
@@celtichistorydecoded we I thank you and looking forward to it cheers
What about the Middle East? Who is related to whom? Are native Jews and Arab of the same DNA?
Middle Eastern populations are not genetically homogeneous. They have at least five distinct ancestries: Anatolian farmers (ancient Turks and Greeks), Natufians (ancestral population of the Middle East), farmers of the Levant, hunter gatherers of the Caucasus, and Iranian farmers.
According to the G25 ethnic calculator they are genetically closest to the Samaritans with a genetic distance of 0.022 followed by Palestinian Christians 0.022, followed by Jordanian Christians 0.023, followed by Syrian Christians 0.028, followed by Lebanese Christians 0.028, followed by the Druze 0.031, these would be the closest. Then slightly further away would be in first place Palestinian Muslims 0.042, Lebanese Christians 0.044, Syrian Muslims 0.045.
Christian groups in the Middle East, all that Syria, Libya and Palestine seem to be strongly correlated with ancient Jews
It seems that the Samaritans are the closest descendants of the original Jews at least from a genetic perspective. The Samaritans are an ethnic group that always lived in Israel, then the Christian groups of the Middle East (Palestinians, Lebanese and Syrians). The Ancient Jews were farmers from the Levant, and today the Syrians and Lebanese are 90% farmers from the Levant, which would explain their genetic affinity.
@@user-yt3xd2jl6dYes. Samaritans remained isolated so they reflect ancient DNA the most. Christians generally did not intermarry with muslims also, who were more cosmopolitan. European Jews ended up getting some ancient Italian ancestry, so their DNA is shifted towards Europeans compared to Samaritans.
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Ancient north eurasians…turks are also among this group… these groups are even the protocultures of the so many civilizations that were formed in europe and other regions on earth… approximately around 2/3 rd of the 🌎
Bjarni - you should know that Scandinavian j is pronounced like English y, so this sounds like "BYARNI"
Not the lost tribe of Israel like the BoM says?? 😅😅😅😅
What's BoM?
@@LennyCash777 book of mormon
no ….organise another speaker w a calm voice please
They are proto Türkic people as well in Native Americans
3:35 WUT???
There's also been Iberians found and Old Irish around the time gaels went to Ireland and possibly others romans and Persians found in Canada all these groups would be before Scandinavians
@rockraprecords5198 The Iberian Irish connection can be explained in two instances. One, Neolithic European Farmers originally from Anatolia travelled two routes into and Europe, one long the Mediterranean the other through the Balkans before meeting up again in France. These were the megalith builders of places like Stonehenge and Newgrange. The other is the spread Bellbeaker and later Celtic ‘Celtic Gauls from the area of France’ cultures. Celts have some genetic diversity but fairly strong cultural continuity from places as far as Ireland and Britain, to Iberia and Anatolia, ‘modern day Turkey’ the part about Roman and Persian settlements in Canada? The only thing I can think that may have lead some people to that conclusion is early genetics picking up on Indo-European ’steppe’ ancestry in Canada, which would of been British not Persian or Roman. Incidentally they’re all have IE ancestry.
@joshuaperkins9916 mummies and of earlier Irish found in new England and iberian scripts we're found in America as well
Interesting, I have heard some references to this, I had thought in Florida? I would be curious to know the time period and if we are looking at two separate events? Also if this may be a branch of a continental Indo-European language branch, such as Romano - Gaulish? It can’t go to far back and still be a identifiable ‘written’ Iberian language, because other then ruinic type things and Greek in the hands of druids, literacy wasn’t a major part of Western and Northern Europeans technology, art and culture on a whole. RUclips is horrible about allowing links, but would you mind referring me to some articles? The other thing is, Celts from Britain and Ireland were brought on Viking expedition as Wife’s, slaves and high status warriors. Ancient DNA from Iceland, as well as mainland Scandinavian shows this. Anyway, I’m open to checking out these references.
Thank Josh.
I'll have to look at my files and show ya and it is believed to be Iberian or Iberian Celtic scripts translations vary but I do have the video somewhere that has academic resources
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There is some misinformation here. Not all nations can be linked to Siberia. Also, your thumbnail has a typical Eurocentric pretendian up. Before colonization, we were dark red skinned with phenotypically distinct look with straight dark hair.
You have been indoctrinated by communists. A cult of zealots.. it should be becoming obvious to you now today with things such as they are.
The whole Human Race was dark skinned. Europeans were black, brown and then due to the Indo European aka Yamnaya were fair skin. According to most scientists and 23andme mankind came from Africa via South Africa or East Africa.
@@goheine The difference is Dark skin American Indians STILL EXIST.
@@goheine The US Southwest still has very dark indigenous peoples. They currently exist.
@@azborderlands If you understand that we’re all descendants of Archaic Hominoids from Africa.
you speak ..far… too fast
most powerful country in the history of the world. no chance
The US is
Communist.
Putin 👁️👄👁️