I don't know what else you will do Ralph, but for me you have the best job in the world. Playing the best and newest drums in the world. And they still pay you for it.
Yes it´s a great job, but I´m also running the drum-tec West showroom and do all the video filming/editing as well. So it still is a great job, but it´s not ONLY drumming ;) Kind regards!
Awesome playing and demo as always. You demo's are so much better than Roland's. Glad to see the digital pads trickling down to more affordable sets. Shame about the floor tom not being bigger though, other than that looks like a great kit.
Thank you Matt! The ATV EXS-5 13" pad might fit very well as a floor tom, it´s always possible to get a custom kit configuration from drum-tec :-D Kind regards!
I love what justin said roland waited 20 yrs so now because of that there's options drumtec,atv,diamond i love that thing!! I love drumtec's unboxing and play
Thanks for this with the unboxing and all 😊 I really can't wait to get my hands on these babies 😎👍 it's been 2 years+ since I have played on a full kit(besides in my head and on my knees and the ground 😆)we never really stop playing as drummers 😊 nice job.
Thank you so much Emrah! You can find more drumming / music & sound demo videos on my private channel digitaldrumming if you like: www.youtube.com/@digitaldrumming Kind regards!
Roland should invest in a tom or two to keep at the office and remind them from time to time how a tom is supposed to sound like. Seems like they don't know.
All the people trashing the sounds are Alesis Strike Owners LOL you get what you pay for...in 5 years when everything on your alesis is broken and I'm still playing my TD27KV you'll wish you saved up and went with the industry standard.
I've personally seen you go over to the strike pro se reviews and personally trash alesis over there and you are now here claiming every naysayer is from alesis, what is your goal here? Are you getting paid to hate on other brands? You're doing things of no value by propogating this message. Alesis is a brand that has come far, as far as Roland in terms of reliability? Only time will tell
@@sanil-edwin 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣 I have played both...I chose the one that I think is better and now own and tell anyone who will listen not to make the same mistake thiusands of alesis drum owners have done which is spend a ridiculous amount of money on sub par equipment that won't last more than a year. I've followed the alesos strike boards since day 1 the horror stories are endless. I comment to save peoppe from making the same mistake I was about to make, until I went and played them both side by side....then it was a no brainer.
@@sanil-edwin alesis is trash, you're mad that I have an opinion? Hahahaha I own the TD27 so ya I have an opinion and my opinion is that alesis is trash.
@@grxygxds so basically you never owned an alesis kit but you have such strong opinions based on other people's experience of the kits from a few years ago, yea seems totally logical and unbiased
A 14 inch snare pad, an eighteen inch ride cymbal pad. I'm okay with the ten inch tom pads, but.....why is the hihat still just 12 inch and NOT digital?
You are right, but it´s possible to get a custom kit configuration from drum-tec with a 100% compatible 14" ATV artist Hihat though :) If you are interested, you can get in touch through info@drum-tec.de Kind regards!
Thank you very much Hugh! You can find more drumming/music & sound demos on my personal channel too if you like: ruclips.net/user/digitaldrumming Kind regards!
Hey Samuel, yes that´s right! You can get a custom kit configuration from drum-tec with an ATV EXS-5 13" pad as floor tom f.e. (100% compatible), or get completely different tom pads as well. ;) Kind regards!
@Ed Hi Ed, there is no audible sound change on the toms from position data. Even the bigger modules like TD-50 don´t change the tom sounds according to position, even though you can see in the module that positional sensing is active. This is only supported audibly on snare & ride. Kind regards!
Thanks Ernie! Oh good question, a 18" works I think, not sure about 20". The MDS-Standard has the same size that the MDS-9V had in the past, it´s the new middle sized Roland rack version that replaces MDS-9V. You might get in touch through info@drum-tec.de concerning your question about the 20" & the rack if you like. Kind regards!
One day actual humans will eventually be able to afford these outlandishly expensive drums. Sadly we lowly common folk all, can only watch the gods with infinitely deep pockets from a far, and get to dream and enjoy them vicariously through these wonderful tiny windows of how these wealthy titans spend their luxury time.
Well, I wouldn´t say that I am earning a lot, but I simply have no bigger costs, so these kits are affordable for me. I am single, no kids, just doing what I like every day and I have a job that I enjoy and earns me okay´ish money.
Thanks for the great video. Can you tell me if the TD-27 has the same positional sensing as the TD-50? I heard the TD-27 doesn't have full positional sensing on the digital ride. Is that true?
Hey Luciano, do you mean the bass drum pad or sounds? :) You can get any custom kit configuration from drum-tec, so it's possible to combine the kit with a super realistic & silent drum-tec 18" diabolo series bass drum for example. Feel free to get in touch through experts@drum-tec.de for further assistance and/or an individual quote including international shipping if you like. Kind regards!
Thanks man! You can find more drumming / music & sound demo videos over at my private channel digitaldrumming too if you like: www.youtube.com/@digitaldrumming Kind regards!
Hello Ralph! Great video. I am planning to buy this kit with you guys but I really do not like that much the KD. It seems too small. Would you recommend to change it for a bigger one? or doesn't make any difference? I saw the next one in line from Roland but it is expensive (KD-120). What about the ATV KD from the EXS-3/EXS-5? Will it make a difference? Those are bigger and cheaper but do not want to compromise the overall quality of this great drum set. Or should I just stay with the KD-10? I will greatly appreciate your suggestions! Thanks in advance :)
Hey Camilo, the most authentic & realistic bass drum option would be a 18" diabolo series Real Feel bass drum, that really lets you play the beater inside the head, without any unrealistic rebound/feel. It actually feels like an acoustic bass drum. Next in line would be the KD-120, which is ok & a lot better than the KD-10 or the ATV xD K-13 pad, but still nowhere close to the diabolo bd. The ATVs are a lot bouncier than KD-120 unfortunately, so they´re not the best option. You can also check out our bd pad noise level comparison if you like over here: ruclips.net/video/rQcpY2VAuro/видео.html If you can afford it, to go for a diabolo 18" & never look back :) it is by far the most realistic electronic drum bass drum I have played. If it´s out of budget, I would say go for the KD-120. The KD-10 indeed is not a great playing bass drum pad, and it´s VERY noisy. Hope that helps & kind regards!
@@drumtecTV One quick question. I am planning to use SD3. How would you recommend to connect the module to the laptop? via USB-B to USB-A (or USB-C; I have a macbook pro) or MIDI to USB-A. Thanks!
@@camiloruiz9928 Hi Camilo, I think that´s completely up to your individual convenience :) using a midi to usb cable would mean using an external midi interface (built into the cable), while you are using the module´s onboard midi interface if you use it´s usb out for midi connection. Both will work withput any problems, kind regards!
What are the main differences between this kit and the VAD506 other than the looks. can this bass drum be used with a double peddle ? I have a DW 5000 double peddle, does the 506 have a different feel when playing it ? and not just because it looks like a real kit. is the smaller floor tom an issue ? some people say the heads are to bouncy, are they the same on both kits ? can they be made less bouncy ? without speakers are they the same volume in the room ? please tell me anything I might want to know as far as how they compare. thanks
@@drumtecTV hello! I mean the 18" kick drum to this roland stand for td-27 :D planning to get the td-27KV but will upgrade to the diabolo 18 :) Thanks!
So basically this has one more trigger input than the td17? Even if you use the digital connections it shuts off the analog connections for the snare and ride like on the td50?
Hey Stephen, the TD-27 actually has two more trigger inputs, two more audio outputs, and 28ch audio interface functionality through usb: www.drum-tec.com/roland-td-27-sound-module-incl.-live-sound-edition You are right, that you cannot use the analogue snare/ride connectors if there´s digital pads connected. Kind regards!
All kits in this demo are stock TD-27 kits, you can find their names in the bottom left corner. You might also want to check out the drum-tec Live Sound Edition for the TD-27 module though: ruclips.net/video/mO1ZXei-k6Y/видео.html New drum-tec Sound Editions for the Roland TD-27 module will also be released in the next 1-2 week(s). Kind regards!
I'm in a deep pickle right now. I've been bouncing between which ones to get, even moreso when I finally had the chance to play on my first choice which was a Yamaha DTX 8 mesh. I just can't seem to choose which kit to go for. Is this kit worth the money? Or should I go for an EF Note 5 or 3x instead?
Hey Joe, on the thumbnail there are no cables at all 😄 in the video, I have used the regular Roland TD-27 cabling & just cleaned it up a bit by attaching to the rack here & there. Kind regards!
skills. Fantasising about geting this, just wondering what the approx floor space required is, also max height would be useful. Considering getting one and mounting it to a liftable platform to take advantage of high ceilings apartment is why I'm wondering.
Hey Robert, sure you can get any custom kit configuration & we ship internationally indeed :) please get in touch through service@drum-tec.de for a quote on your individual dream kit incl. international shipping if you like. Kind regards!
...you wouldn´t believe how often I´ve heard that one ;-D If you get your kit/module from drum-tec, you´ll get the TD-27 drum-tec Live Sound Edition for free: ruclips.net/video/mO1ZXei-k6Y/видео.html www.drum-tec.com/roland-td-27kv-v-drums-set-with-live-sound-edition Please don´t hesitate to get in touch through service@drum-tec.de, if you need any further advice or an individual quote incl. international shipping, ! Kind regards
i guess it costs ya to be quiet in the comfort of your headphones instead of rattling ones home with an acoustic set. Should be cheaper but damn they really charge ya for the quiet conveyance
Short answer: yes! The TD-27 is compatible with Roland's digital pads & VH-13, has positional sensing on snare/ride, more in/outputs, more functions & features all around and multichannel audio/midi interface capabilities through usb. You can find more info here: www.drum-tec.com/roland-td-27-sound-module-incl.-live-sound-edition Kind regards!
Absolutely! You can get a custom kit configuration from drum-tec with an ATV EXS-5 13" pad as a floor tom (100% Roland compatible & looks almost like a 13" PDX-100). Kind regards!
Lord Ralf, amazing playing as always, love your chops. Just bought a TD27KV and I have one question; are the sounds in this video unprocessed, do they come from the module out of the box?
:-D wow I feel so aristocratic now ;) yes all kits are stock sounds from the TD-27 recorded directly from the stereo output of the module. There has been a firmware update by Roland since then though, and I think about 10-15 kits have been re-edited. Kind regards!
@@RADERFPV The Roland PD-140DS snare is 14", it has the same size of an acoustic snare. The space between foot pedal & hihat is the same for every kit I demo, otherwise I couldn't play properly :) kind regards!
For those pads and that snare and ride (which is USB I think, meaning it has much more layering and triggers for sensitivity), it could be if the extra 1000 isn't too far out of reach. The 17 is still good though (I've played the 17kv a couple of times for a good duration each time).
Thank you very much! :) oh hm, there´s quite a lot... probably different paradiddle variations, six strokes & various bd substitute figures, too many to name them all here ;-D kind regards!
I absolutely love all of these Drum-Tec videos SO much. Does anyone know exactly what Ralf is doing (rudiment-wise) as a fill at the following time stamps? 3:12 3:21 4:23 4:31 5:04 5:09 5:24 5:59 6:10 and basically infinity:infinity/infinity of all other Drum-Tech videos? haha. For the record, performances like this are why I always stick to a single kick pedal (usually, though double pedals are fun). This shows so much, the importance of stick control and rudiments. Single pedal, and all that awesomeness. Thanks!! :)
It's Funny, everyone, included me, say you are a beast drumming, no one care the drums, the reason is Roland continue making really bad sound modules, I love Roland about the triggering but the sounds are not different with TD9 or another older module, that is sad, I can't imagine if roland release a module powered by toontrack, probably I can see true competition with mimic, nice drumming Ralph
Hi Reuben, the Roland TD-27KV kit offers much better triggering/playability (especially because of the digital snare & ride), and you might get a custom kit configuration with a 100% Roland compatible 18" drum-tec diabolo series bass drum for example, to improve feel/rebound and reduce noise level of the bd: ruclips.net/video/J9Ig12wXESQ/видео.html There are also some nice drum-tec Sound Editions available for the TD-27 module: ruclips.net/video/yO0-3XzK-Wg/видео.html ruclips.net/video/7q8EytnUGwk/видео.html The Live Sound Edition comes free of charge with the purchase of a TD-27 kit/module from drum-tec: ruclips.net/video/WSpzDNEZihQ/видео.html Feel free to get in touch through service@drum-tec.de for any further questions, and/or an individual quote incl. international shipping if you like. Kind regards!
Shelling out $3000 for the kit isn't a problem first Roland has to figure out how to get better stick definition from the ride as good as the bell area. Every video I've seen shows how weak the ride is.
After having played every single e-cymbal that´s available on the market, I can tell you the CY-18DR is actually the best triggering/playing ride cymbal pad with the most realistic rebound by far. Have you tried one by yourself side by side with ATV artist cymbals, CY-15R, Alesis Strike cymbals etc? Kind regards
Drummer is better than the set. Snare looks nice but those toms, especially that floor, are a joke. For $3K, the sizes are awful. The large snare makes the toms look even smaller than 10".
Thank you Joe! You can get a custom kit configuration from drum-tec with different tom pads, or upgrade to the drum-tec Jam / diabolo series electronic drums and only use Roland module & cymbals: ruclips.net/p/PLfdIgOnHCc5qEcO6Vkc-KGwqQr-toxrNt ruclips.net/p/PLfdIgOnHCc5rJjroNVUDDY4QLzZAJpKQH www.drum-tec.com/pads Kind regards!
drumtecTV Was just thinking bout that.. In this case with the TD-27KV, it’s actually very convenient to go with a diablo set with the same module cymbals for the same price
Hi trond, honestly speaking there is not much to specifically showcase on a bass drum mono trigger pad :-D there is no positon data or multizone alternating articualtions to show, just dynamics (which will work equally well on any Roland module with any bass drum pad, as it's the same 1-127 velocity standard as for all other pads). When it comes to playing feel & noise levels, this is indeed very different with different bass drum pads. We have made this noise level compariosn on this topic: ruclips.net/video/rQcpY2VAuro/видео.html Kind regards!
I am, and it's driving me insane! I played the td 17kvx 2 days ago at guitar center, and was more impressed than I'd thought I'd be with it. I thought the tom pads would be too small, but I didn't mind the size at all. I don't think I hit an accidental rim shot once. But, I was also impressed with the Alesis Strike Pro SE they had has well, and thought it was pretty awesome. It sure looks the part, but it's just too darn big for my office - and isn't known for reliability. Since I wasn't set on either, I headed back home empty handed. Then I came across the TD27kv online, and love that it has the 28 track audio interface built in along with a compressor, which the td 17 kvx lacks. I'm going back to guitar center tomorrow to try out the 27kv, it was sitting right next to the Alesis Strike. But it didn't stand out as something I wanted to try when I was there, at least not for the $3,000 sticker price i was that it had. I just walked right by it. I'm also thinking that getting a double bass pedal to work with the 27kv is going to be a bit tough with the snare stand right there between the hi-hat pedal and right kick drum pedal. Where's the left pedal bar supposed to route - right through the bottom of the snare stand? I'm sure I could I get it to work, maybe it will look more obvious when I check it out tomorrow. I was also thinking you get 4 extra outputs on the 27kv instead of 2 like on the 17kv module, but you actually only get 2 on it as well. 2 get disabled when you have the digital snare and ride plugged in. That's a major bummer, and has me really leaning back to the td17kvx. I'm a novice drummer with only 6 months experience from 5 years ago, but I sure did enjoy it.
@@RADERFPV I feel you bro. For me it’s the upgraded digital ride cymbal that’s making me debate. I’ve heard the ride on the td 17 isn’t the most responsive and the td 27 has the better digital ride. Is it worth $1200 more is the big question. Let me know what you think of the ride when you try it out/ if it’s significantly better than the td 17s if you can. Also I wouldn’t worry about the double bass pedal getting in the way it’ll adjust fine.
@@loganwhite8375 ruclips.net/video/PpamaOkNqoI/видео.html The fact that you counsel me about the possibility of double stroke rolls on the toms amuses me to great extent. Please, do continue.
This conversation is over, as far as I'm concerned. I have played enough rolls on enough electronic and non electronic toms to know that I have a point. Have a nice day sir. 😊
I'm not in the market for a new e-kit, and haven't been for years but I keep watching this channel just to listen to this guy play. He's a beast.
Thank you Sam, that´s nice to hear! :)
Ralf Schumacher, your drumming skills are so impressive
Thank you very much again! :-)
for as awesome as they sound, can we take a minute to appreciate the guy playing? Solid as hell.
They should have a twelve inch floor Tom.
@Bill Perri The acoustic aesthetic will never die!
yes its annoying the floor tom is bigger on an acoustic kit for a reason the Ekits disregard this
I don't know what else you will do Ralph, but for me you have the best job in the world. Playing the best and newest drums in the world. And they still pay you for it.
Yes it´s a great job, but I´m also running the drum-tec West showroom and do all the video filming/editing as well. So it still is a great job, but it´s not ONLY drumming ;) Kind regards!
Damn dude. Sounds like a good gig!
I’m not sure if I enjoyed the demo more or of your playing style and cleanliness! Great drummer you are! Thank you for making this video!
Thank you very much Janis, you can find more drumming/music on my personal channel too if you like:
ruclips.net/user/digitaldrumming
Kind regards!
Just got the TD27, its awesome. Sounds fit in the mix really well.
As always, Ralf´s superb performance would even make a set of cardboard boxes sound great...
Thank you so much! :-D
This is completely true.
Sounds like a great drum kit nicely put together, you just got to love it!
I love my kit.I am still learning on my first ekit after 40 years.Man,what fun!
Awesome playing and demo as always. You demo's are so much better than Roland's. Glad to see the digital pads trickling down to more affordable sets. Shame about the floor tom not being bigger though, other than that looks like a great kit.
Thank you Matt! The ATV EXS-5 13" pad might fit very well as a floor tom, it´s always possible to get a custom kit configuration from drum-tec :-D Kind regards!
Maybe Roland PD125 or 128 will work well too
The 14 snare pad looks soo huge because of those 10 inch toms and floor tomd
Absolutely! You might get a custom configuration from drum-tec with a 13" ATV EXS-pad as a low tom though :-D Kind regards!
@Bill Perri Coming soon! :)
I love what justin said roland waited 20 yrs so now because of that there's options drumtec,atv,diamond i love that thing!! I love drumtec's unboxing and play
@@ReignJeffersonCTria Thank you! :)
Thanks for this with the unboxing and all 😊 I really can't wait to get my hands on these babies 😎👍 it's been 2 years+ since I have played on a full kit(besides in my head and on my knees and the ground 😆)we never really stop playing as drummers 😊 nice job.
Thank you Joshua, glad you liked it!
What ever... I dig the sounds of this kit! Sounds fantastic!
Thank you!
always a pleasure to listen to this fantastic drummer.
Thank you so much Emrah! You can find more drumming / music & sound demo videos on my private channel digitaldrumming if you like:
www.youtube.com/@digitaldrumming
Kind regards!
Awesome! Sensational drumming Ralf!!! Thanks for posting this video.
Thank you very much Matthew! :)
I just got this kit recently to get back into drumming. I hope one day to be a tenth as good as Ralf.
The triggering seems better than on the Alesis Strike Pro SE, but the sounds seem more synthetic, less natural.
Roland should invest in a tom or two to keep at the office and remind them from time to time how a tom is supposed to sound like. Seems like they don't know.
Totally agree
All the people trashing the sounds are Alesis Strike Owners LOL you get what you pay for...in 5 years when everything on your alesis is broken and I'm still playing my TD27KV you'll wish you saved up and went with the industry standard.
This is an opinion i could get behind
I've personally seen you go over to the strike pro se reviews and personally trash alesis over there and you are now here claiming every naysayer is from alesis, what is your goal here? Are you getting paid to hate on other brands? You're doing things of no value by propogating this message. Alesis is a brand that has come far, as far as Roland in terms of reliability? Only time will tell
@@sanil-edwin 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣 I have played both...I chose the one that I think is better and now own and tell anyone who will listen not to make the same mistake thiusands of alesis drum owners have done which is spend a ridiculous amount of money on sub par equipment that won't last more than a year. I've followed the alesos strike boards since day 1 the horror stories are endless. I comment to save peoppe from making the same mistake I was about to make, until I went and played them both side by side....then it was a no brainer.
@@sanil-edwin alesis is trash, you're mad that I have an opinion? Hahahaha I own the TD27 so ya I have an opinion and my opinion is that alesis is trash.
@@grxygxds so basically you never owned an alesis kit but you have such strong opinions based on other people's experience of the kits from a few years ago, yea seems totally logical and unbiased
Your drum review formats are the best
Awesome drumming skills
Thank you! :)
Love my TD25KV! Such a great set🤘🤘
I agree just got one its amazing I will use it for my drum covers.
4:58 oh shit dude got some serious chops
:-D thank yoU!
A 14 inch snare pad, an eighteen inch ride cymbal pad. I'm okay with the ten inch tom pads, but.....why is the hihat still just 12 inch and NOT digital?
You are right, but it´s possible to get a custom kit configuration from drum-tec with a 100% compatible 14" ATV artist Hihat though :) If you are interested, you can get in touch through info@drum-tec.de Kind regards!
Yea I see the roland e drums, SICK playing! hella drummer
Thank you very much Hugh! You can find more drumming/music & sound demos on my personal channel too if you like:
ruclips.net/user/digitaldrumming
Kind regards!
Great playing as always
Thank you Nick! :)
They should make an upgrade pack with the TD27 module and digital pads...That would be interesting to see
Yes, indeed :) www.drum-tec.com/roland-td-27dp-digital-upgrade-package-incl.-live-sound-edition
@@drumtecTV 2.2k vs 3k for the flagship update!Hmm...guess I'm closer 800 to the positional sensing stuff:)
買ったので届くのが楽しみ。
TD-25からの買い替えなら間違いなく他人に推奨できる。
TD-30からの買い替えとしても十分良い。
Killer drummer. I don't care the product I just want to see his performance.
Thank you very much Fernando! :)
Watching the setup location of these drumsets and all I can think is "Nobody puts Ralf in a corner" lol
;-D
The toms look funny with that snare and ride lol
:-D they do!
Thanks to drum tec
It does not come with any snare stand and hihat stand? And also no bass drum paddle?
Yes you are right:
www.drum-tec.com/roland-td-27kv-v-drums-set-incl.-live-sound-edition
Kind regards!
1.クローズドリムショットが手の平置いてても出来る
2.手の平でライドがミュート出来る
3.それでいて日本円で30万～
神か
Great
Considering they're giving you a 14" Snare, they could've made the toms bigger
Hey Samuel, yes that´s right! You can get a custom kit configuration from drum-tec with an ATV EXS-5 13" pad as floor tom f.e. (100% compatible), or get completely different tom pads as well. ;) Kind regards!
@Ed Hi Ed, there is no audible sound change on the toms from position data. Even the bigger modules like TD-50 don´t change the tom sounds according to position, even though you can see in the module that positional sensing is active. This is only supported audibly on snare & ride. Kind regards!
@@drumtecTV that's kinda weird. Is it possible to get sounds working for that somehow?
Amazing Playing Sir!! Will this New Roland Rack Fit a 20" bass drum under it? Thanks
Thanks Ernie! Oh good question, a 18" works I think, not sure about 20". The MDS-Standard has the same size that the MDS-9V had in the past, it´s the new middle sized Roland rack version that replaces MDS-9V. You might get in touch through info@drum-tec.de concerning your question about the 20" & the rack if you like. Kind regards!
One day actual humans will eventually be able to afford these outlandishly expensive drums. Sadly we lowly common folk all, can only watch the gods with infinitely deep pockets from a far, and get to dream and enjoy them vicariously through these wonderful tiny windows of how these wealthy titans spend their luxury time.
Well, I wouldn´t say that I am earning a lot, but I simply have no bigger costs, so these kits are affordable for me. I am single, no kids, just doing what I like every day and I have a job that I enjoy and earns me okay´ish money.
ZZounds payment plan
‘Tight Funk’ *plays heavy linear fill*
Yeah why not?? :-D
Omg, this drummer is a god
Thank you Thomas! :)
I love my TD-27
Could this KIT import your drum clip that you just recoded with a song to a 3rd party device? Ipad for example.
Thanks for the help!
Thanks for the great video. Can you tell me if the TD-27 has the same positional sensing as the TD-50? I heard the TD-27 doesn't have full positional sensing on the digital ride. Is that true?
Excellent playstyle💛 is there a possibility to change the bass drum??
Hey Luciano, do you mean the bass drum pad or sounds? :) You can get any custom kit configuration from drum-tec, so it's possible to combine the kit with a super realistic & silent drum-tec 18" diabolo series bass drum for example.
Feel free to get in touch through experts@drum-tec.de for further assistance and/or an individual quote including international shipping if you like. Kind regards!
so it doesn't come with snare or hi hat stands?!?! for that money it should for sure.
Most decent kits and higher don’t , analog or digital
So your getting a TD25kv with a better snare and module.However it sounds good,big price for not much extra
Damn this dude is sick
Thanks man! You can find more drumming / music & sound demo videos over at my private channel digitaldrumming too if you like:
www.youtube.com/@digitaldrumming
Kind regards!
Hello Ralph! Great video. I am planning to buy this kit with you guys but I really do not like that much the KD. It seems too small. Would you recommend to change it for a bigger one? or doesn't make any difference? I saw the next one in line from Roland but it is expensive (KD-120). What about the ATV KD from the EXS-3/EXS-5? Will it make a difference? Those are bigger and cheaper but do not want to compromise the overall quality of this great drum set. Or should I just stay with the KD-10? I will greatly appreciate your suggestions! Thanks in advance :)
Hey Camilo, the most authentic & realistic bass drum option would be a 18" diabolo series Real Feel bass drum, that really lets you play the beater inside the head, without any unrealistic rebound/feel. It actually feels like an acoustic bass drum. Next in line would be the KD-120, which is ok & a lot better than the KD-10 or the ATV xD K-13 pad, but still nowhere close to the diabolo bd. The ATVs are a lot bouncier than KD-120 unfortunately, so they´re not the best option. You can also check out our bd pad noise level comparison if you like over here:
ruclips.net/video/rQcpY2VAuro/видео.html
If you can afford it, to go for a diabolo 18" & never look back :) it is by far the most realistic electronic drum bass drum I have played. If it´s out of budget, I would say go for the KD-120. The KD-10 indeed is not a great playing bass drum pad, and it´s VERY noisy.
Hope that helps & kind regards!
@@drumtecTV Thanks! Unfortunately, the 18" diabolo series is out of my budget :(
I will buy the kit with the KD-120! Great service @drumtec
@@drumtecTV One quick question. I am planning to use SD3. How would you recommend to connect the module to the laptop? via USB-B to USB-A (or USB-C; I have a macbook pro) or MIDI to USB-A. Thanks!
@@camiloruiz9928 Hi Camilo, I think that´s completely up to your individual convenience :) using a midi to usb cable would mean using an external midi interface (built into the cable), while you are using the module´s onboard midi interface if you use it´s usb out for midi connection. Both will work withput any problems, kind regards!
Ralph, your drumming sells any kit you play on this channel.
A question though: is that ride USB?
Thank you very much :) Yes the TD-27KV comes with the Roland CY-18DR and PD-140DS digital ride & snare. Kind regards!
What are the main differences between this kit and the VAD506 other than the looks. can this bass drum be used with a double peddle ? I have a DW 5000 double peddle, does the 506 have a different feel when playing it ? and not just because it looks like a real kit. is the smaller floor tom an issue ? some people say the heads are to bouncy, are they the same on both kits ? can they be made less bouncy ? without speakers are they the same volume in the room ? please tell me anything I might want to know as far as how they compare. thanks
That’s drummer is a windmill of a beast !
Thank you so much! :)
hello! will the drum-tec diabolo 18 " bass drum ft on this rack? Thanks!
Yes it will! :)
ruclips.net/video/mO1ZXei-k6Y/видео.html
Kind regards!
@@drumtecTV hello! I mean the 18" kick drum to this roland stand for td-27 :D planning to get the td-27KV but will upgrade to the diabolo 18 :) Thanks!
@@poldivina27 Yes the 18" fits under the MDS-Standard rack too. Kind regards!
drumtecTV thank you!
Wow awesome 👏👏👏😍
Thank you!
whats the size of the carpet you have it on?
It´s the ROland TDM-20, you can find all info over here:
www.drum-tec.com/roland-tdm-20-large-sound-absorbing-drum-carpet
Kind regards!
Which kit # are you using for your intro/outro jam? Thank you... DD
So basically this has one more trigger input than the td17? Even if you use the digital connections it shuts off the analog connections for the snare and ride like on the td50?
Hey Stephen, the TD-27 actually has two more trigger inputs, two more audio outputs, and 28ch audio interface functionality through usb:
www.drum-tec.com/roland-td-27-sound-module-incl.-live-sound-edition
You are right, that you cannot use the analogue snare/ride connectors if there´s digital pads connected. Kind regards!
So, this module has better usb multitrack capabilities than the td50?
Yes, it seems so :-D Kind regards!
Facinating drumming.Are those the kit's samples or your samples sir??
All kits in this demo are stock TD-27 kits, you can find their names in the bottom left corner. You might also want to check out the drum-tec Live Sound Edition for the TD-27 module though:
ruclips.net/video/mO1ZXei-k6Y/видео.html
New drum-tec Sound Editions for the Roland TD-27 module will also be released in the next 1-2 week(s). Kind regards!
@@drumtecTV ok thanks.
So it doesn’t come with snare stand or hi hat stand right?
Yes, you can find more info on the kit over here:
www.drum-tec.com/roland-td-27kv-v-drums-set-incl.-live-sound-edition
Kind regards!
I'm in a deep pickle right now. I've been bouncing between which ones to get, even moreso when I finally had the chance to play on my first choice which was a Yamaha DTX 8 mesh. I just can't seem to choose which kit to go for. Is this kit worth the money? Or should I go for an EF Note 5 or 3x instead?
Can somebody explain how he has hidden these cables
Hey Joe, on the thumbnail there are no cables at all 😄 in the video, I have used the regular Roland TD-27 cabling & just cleaned it up a bit by attaching to the rack here & there. Kind regards!
I guess if I got this I could always use the 12" pad from my td17 as a floor tom.
Not recommended if you want to keep the positional sensing
Does anyone know if thats the tdm-20 mat being used? Just ordering this kit and want to know if thats the correct size mat to use. Thanks!
Yes it is :) you can find more info over here:
www.drum-tec.com/roland-tdm-20-large-sound-absorbing-drum-carpet
Kind regards!
skills. Fantasising about geting this, just wondering what the approx floor space required is, also max height would be useful. Considering getting one and mounting it to a liftable platform to take advantage of high ceilings apartment is why I'm wondering.
Hey Rowan, you´d probably need about 1,5 x 1,5 meters. Kind regards!
Suena igual a una real 🤯
You said in a previous post you set custom kits!? Do you ship internationally? Thank you
Hey Robert, sure you can get any custom kit configuration & we ship internationally indeed :) please get in touch through service@drum-tec.de for a quote on your individual dream kit incl. international shipping if you like. Kind regards!
“Middle class” $3000. RIP my wallet
:-D
@ham and cheese no it's not LOL I own the kit...all 3 Tom's are 10inch PD 100s
@@grxygxds is that a good thing or bad thing?
@@finnleithomczyk5292 it's a good thing, the kit is amazing.
It’s a high end mid tier I guess
Those toms sounded weak?? regardless of the kit.. with that price tag I expected better.
Didn’t Ralf drive An F1 race car? Lol I think this the kit I’m might get!🤔🤔🤔
...you wouldn´t believe how often I´ve heard that one ;-D
If you get your kit/module from drum-tec, you´ll get the TD-27 drum-tec Live Sound Edition for free:
ruclips.net/video/mO1ZXei-k6Y/видео.html
www.drum-tec.com/roland-td-27kv-v-drums-set-with-live-sound-edition
Please don´t hesitate to get in touch through service@drum-tec.de, if you need any further advice or an individual quote incl. international shipping, ! Kind regards
i guess it costs ya to be quiet in the comfort of your headphones instead of rattling ones home with an acoustic set. Should be cheaper but damn they really charge ya for the quiet conveyance
I have a td17 is this module a major upgrade from that or just new sounds.
Short answer: yes! The TD-27 is compatible with Roland's digital pads & VH-13, has positional sensing on snare/ride, more in/outputs, more functions & features all around and multichannel audio/midi interface capabilities through usb. You can find more info here:
www.drum-tec.com/roland-td-27-sound-module-incl.-live-sound-edition
Kind regards!
12” floor would have been great
Absolutely! You can get a custom kit configuration from drum-tec with an ATV EXS-5 13" pad as a floor tom (100% Roland compatible & looks almost like a 13" PDX-100). Kind regards!
@Ed Would work, but doesn´t fit the PDX-100 pads nicely in terms of looks :)
Lord Ralf, amazing playing as always, love your chops. Just bought a TD27KV and I have one question; are the sounds in this video unprocessed, do they come from the module out of the box?
:-D wow I feel so aristocratic now ;) yes all kits are stock sounds from the TD-27 recorded directly from the stereo output of the module. There has been a firmware update by Roland since then though, and I think about 10-15 kits have been re-edited. Kind regards!
@@drumtecTV thank you for your reply! Mine came with the 1.10 firmware already as it seems. All the best and keep bringing us more videos, cheers!
I would like to buy drum rug for TD-247KV. Do you know the minimum dimension require ?
The rug/mat in the video is a Roland TDM-20:
www.drum-tec.com/roland-tdm-20-large-sound-absorbing-drum-carpet
Kind regards!
is it possible to exchange the td25 module for the td27? If yes what are the additional costs?
drum-tec will offer such an upgrade for sure, please get in touch through info@drum-tec.de directly. Kind regards!
Good Review!
Is that organ groove you are playing along with at the add one of the native tracks in the module?
No, this is one of my "exclusive" playalong tracks, that might be part of a future collection :) Kind regards!
Are these the stock sounds?
Yes :)
How can you use a double bass pedal with that snare stand right in the way? Looks like one won't fit.
Hi, the snare stand is there on every acoustic kit too, so why shouldn't it work? :) kind regards!
@@drumtecTV Very true, just looks like a tight fit in the photos and videos I'm seeing. I'm going to check one out in person today.
@@RADERFPV The Roland PD-140DS snare is 14", it has the same size of an acoustic snare. The space between foot pedal & hihat is the same for every kit I demo, otherwise I couldn't play properly :) kind regards!
@@drumtecTV I got to try it yesterday at guitar center with a double bass, fantastic kit.
Is it worth waiting enough to save another K to buy it, instead of td17kvx??
My heart tells me yes. Any thoughts?
For those pads and that snare and ride (which is USB I think, meaning it has much more layering and triggers for sensitivity), it could be if the extra 1000 isn't too far out of reach. The 17 is still good though (I've played the 17kv a couple of times for a good duration each time).
Roland Td50k or td 27 kv ?
Td50k is have more realistic sound
Sea and Bullet I think roland should add Bluetooth to the new version of td50
Im using td25kv, can I just upgrade my td25 module to td27 module?
Your gonna need the digital snare and ride my dude, if not youre wasting all that hidden potential
Is drum trigger splitting possible on this module? Thanks!
Basically yes, but the TD-27 already has a lot of trigger inputs actually (4 additional aux inputs). Kind regards!
Tasty playing man! What are some of your fav rudiments to apply in fills?
Thank you very much! :) oh hm, there´s quite a lot... probably different paradiddle variations, six strokes & various bd substitute figures, too many to name them all here ;-D kind regards!
Any clue on the starting price of this drum kit?
www.drum-tec.com/roland-td-27kv-v-drums-set-with-live-sound-edition
Kind regards!
I absolutely love all of these Drum-Tec videos SO much. Does anyone know exactly what Ralf is doing (rudiment-wise) as a fill at the following time stamps?
3:12
3:21
4:23
4:31
5:04
5:09
5:24
5:59
6:10
and basically infinity:infinity/infinity of all other Drum-Tech videos? haha. For the record, performances like this are why I always stick to a single kick pedal (usually, though double pedals are fun). This shows so much, the importance of stick control and rudiments. Single pedal, and all that awesomeness.
Thanks!! :)
It's a six stroke roll I believe. To get that kind of speed you would probably need to use moeller or push pull technique
It's Funny, everyone, included me, say you are a beast drumming, no one care the drums, the reason is Roland continue making really bad sound modules, I love Roland about the triggering but the sounds are not different with TD9 or another older module, that is sad, I can't imagine if roland release a module powered by toontrack, probably I can see true competition with mimic, nice drumming Ralph
Me has convencido Antonio
This or the alesis strike pro se
Hi Reuben, the Roland TD-27KV kit offers much better triggering/playability (especially because of the digital snare & ride), and you might get a custom kit configuration with a 100% Roland compatible 18" drum-tec diabolo series bass drum for example, to improve feel/rebound and reduce noise level of the bd:
ruclips.net/video/J9Ig12wXESQ/видео.html
There are also some nice drum-tec Sound Editions available for the TD-27 module:
ruclips.net/video/yO0-3XzK-Wg/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/7q8EytnUGwk/видео.html
The Live Sound Edition comes free of charge with the purchase of a TD-27 kit/module from drum-tec:
ruclips.net/video/WSpzDNEZihQ/видео.html
Feel free to get in touch through service@drum-tec.de for any further questions, and/or an individual quote incl. international shipping if you like. Kind regards!
Buying one brand new for $2,500 tomorrow!
Hey Ricky, great to hear!
I see Rosanna can be played 27 different ways
Shelling out $3000 for the kit isn't a problem first Roland has to figure out how to get better stick definition from the ride as good as the bell area. Every video I've seen shows how weak the ride is.
After having played every single e-cymbal that´s available on the market, I can tell you the CY-18DR is actually the best triggering/playing ride cymbal pad with the most realistic rebound by far. Have you tried one by yourself side by side with ATV artist cymbals, CY-15R, Alesis Strike cymbals etc? Kind regards
Watch the strike pro se video and then this. Absolutely NO contest, looks or soundwise. Alesis EVERY time for me and it's loads cheaper!!
Drummer is better than the set. Snare looks nice but those toms, especially that floor, are a joke. For $3K, the sizes are awful. The large snare makes the toms look even smaller than 10".
Thank you Joe! You can get a custom kit configuration from drum-tec with different tom pads, or upgrade to the drum-tec Jam / diabolo series electronic drums and only use Roland module & cymbals:
ruclips.net/p/PLfdIgOnHCc5qEcO6Vkc-KGwqQr-toxrNt
ruclips.net/p/PLfdIgOnHCc5rJjroNVUDDY4QLzZAJpKQH
www.drum-tec.com/pads
Kind regards!
drumtecTV Was just thinking bout that.. In this case with the TD-27KV, it’s actually very convenient to go with a diablo set with the same module cymbals for the same price
As usual, everything on the kit gets tested separatly before the playing starts. Exept the bass drum. Every time.
Hi trond, honestly speaking there is not much to specifically showcase on a bass drum mono trigger pad :-D there is no positon data or multizone alternating articualtions to show, just dynamics (which will work equally well on any Roland module with any bass drum pad, as it's the same 1-127 velocity standard as for all other pads).
When it comes to playing feel & noise levels, this is indeed very different with different bass drum pads. We have made this noise level compariosn on this topic:
ruclips.net/video/rQcpY2VAuro/видео.html
Kind regards!
Who else debating between this and the td 17 kvx lol
I am, and it's driving me insane! I played the td 17kvx 2 days ago at guitar center, and was more impressed than I'd thought I'd be with it. I thought the tom pads would be too small, but I didn't mind the size at all. I don't think I hit an accidental rim shot once. But, I was also impressed with the Alesis Strike Pro SE they had has well, and thought it was pretty awesome. It sure looks the part, but it's just too darn big for my office - and isn't known for reliability. Since I wasn't set on either, I headed back home empty handed. Then I came across the TD27kv online, and love that it has the 28 track audio interface built in along with a compressor, which the td 17 kvx lacks. I'm going back to guitar center tomorrow to try out the 27kv, it was sitting right next to the Alesis Strike. But it didn't stand out as something I wanted to try when I was there, at least not for the $3,000 sticker price i was that it had. I just walked right by it. I'm also thinking that getting a double bass pedal to work with the 27kv is going to be a bit tough with the snare stand right there between the hi-hat pedal and right kick drum pedal. Where's the left pedal bar supposed to route - right through the bottom of the snare stand? I'm sure I could I get it to work, maybe it will look more obvious when I check it out tomorrow. I was also thinking you get 4 extra outputs on the 27kv instead of 2 like on the 17kv module, but you actually only get 2 on it as well. 2 get disabled when you have the digital snare and ride plugged in. That's a major bummer, and has me really leaning back to the td17kvx. I'm a novice drummer with only 6 months experience from 5 years ago, but I sure did enjoy it.
@@RADERFPV I feel you bro. For me it’s the upgraded digital ride cymbal that’s making me debate. I’ve heard the ride on the td 17 isn’t the most responsive and the td 27 has the better digital ride. Is it worth $1200 more is the big question. Let me know what you think of the ride when you try it out/ if it’s significantly better than the td 17s if you can. Also I wouldn’t worry about the double bass pedal getting in the way it’ll adjust fine.
@@RADERFPV I’m like you tho , I keep leaning back towards the td 17 kvx so it’ll have to be a hard sell for me to go with the 27.
@@mitchmcturtle6890 - I'll let you know, for sure.
@@mitchmcturtle6890 I didn't get a chance to head to guitar center today, hoping to tomorrow. I'll keep you updated.
No bluetooth... ;(
TD-27 does have bluetooth as far as I know, even TD-17 has :)
www.drum-tec.com/roland-td-27-sound-module-incl.-live-sound-edition
Kind regards!
Yes, the 27kv does indeed have the Bluetooth feature on the module.
Look great still sound like Rolands...Pass
Wow lots of e drum!! Any one gift me one
> spend a ton of money
> toms sound like crap because you can't do a realistic sounding roll
> nope
@@loganwhite8375 ruclips.net/video/PpamaOkNqoI/видео.html The fact that you counsel me about the possibility of double stroke rolls on the toms amuses me to great extent. Please, do continue.
This conversation is over, as far as I'm concerned. I have played enough rolls on enough electronic and non electronic toms to know that I have a point. Have a nice day sir. 😊
@@Peruanischerlimettendieb Is that Italian for something?