Time Stamps: 0:00 - Intro 2:35 - Natalie Webster & Rick Alan Ross 12:36 - Could anyone have reached me when I was in Scientology? 15:07 - Importance of protesters using Scientology terms correctly 15:57 - Scientology's "CLEAR COGNITION" 21:18 - Scientology's "IDEAL ORG STRATEGY" 26:34 - Problems getting through to Scientologists 30:34 - Diddy & Scientology 32:53 - Scientology's "STATE OF CLEAR" 34:50 - Scientology's "REHABILITATION PROJECT FORCE" 35:47 - Scientology's EMPTY ORGANIZATIONS & Imminent failure 38:38 - Scientology's "SAINT HILL SIZE" org status 41:23 - Protesters getting Scientologists in trouble 44:11 - Which bases the RPF existed on 45:42 - The problem with creating OT 9 & 10 49:04 - The problem with an L. Ron Hubbard movie or biography 53:42 - David Miscavige craves power, not money. 55:37 - L. Ron Hubbard's "WHAT IS GREATNESS" hypocrisy 1:00:21 - How I reconciled the propaganda when I was in Scientology 1:02:29 - Party in Miami this Sunday!!
When I was in, I allowed the organization to have power over me. I realized the organization had no moral authority over me. At that point, I ceased granting the organization any power over me. Yet somehow the organization fears that I might do something to hurt the organization. Thus the organization has granted me some power over it.
I agree with Jenna Miscavige…as a 2nd gen ex cult member myself (not Scientology).. as Dr Janja Lalich says we place these nuggets of info on the shelf .. the shelf eventually breaks … thank you 🙏 Aaron for this channel.. it is so enlightening …
@@katiekay3873 When we show up, they pull the curtains and add more hiding tech between the front door and the reception desk. Except once when they were body routing in front of the org.
Years ago, Rick Ross was a guest on daytime Talkshows and discussed Deprograming of concerned parents, adult children. And then he mentioned being repeatedly suided in court by Scientology lawyers in to bankruptcy. Brave man
As a never in but still a “victim” of SA from a parent…”victim” is offensive to most of us. In or out of a cult. This was my main connection to SPTV and then of course, I loved the messages you were sharing and the growth I didn’t exactly know was possible. Thanks for all you and Jenna do for this community and mine!!
For certain, telling any person is a member of a cult is not persuasive or effective. "Cult," has a negative connotation. No one who feels insulted will be persuaded to your point of view. If a conversation on beliefs versus actual behavior can be had, that is the best approach.
Definitely don’t just trash them on the bad stuff and tell them they’re idiots… it just fits in what cult leaders ALL tell their members…. “THEY are against us, they’re ALL haters. They are going to attack us! It’s us against THEM!” And when it happens they say… “SEE, I told you so… because I know all!” When they are confronted with scorn, the cult members just shut it out because they’re expecting the negativity.
Some early thoughts whilst still watching 1. DM is a cuckoo,laid in a nest that wasn't his, eradicating all competition to ensure his success. Well, except for fact that cuckoos lay their eggs in tiny songbirds nests, and outgrow it, being much larger birds 😂 2. Protesters might not be able to move the needle on SO or public who are fully committed, BUT I bet it's another brick in the wall for those who do have doubts, so it's very important to keep doing it.
So, if i go sign up at my local church and give them the clear cognition on my first or second audit, is there any chance i could convince them that I'm LRH?
I have heard that if one locates the purpose of a scientologist then they will leave the organization and pursue that purpose. If the purpose is to become an artist then they will pursue that purpose. For me I had the goal to build vacuum tube amplifiers. I have been declared an illegal pre-clear but I really wanted to get some auditing so I ran a few repair lists solo and I realized my basic goal for existence in this universe. I can only speak for myself but I hope this helps in getting someone out of scientology.
34:00 Speaking of false Clear attestations, wasn't it the lil fella himself who jumped into the C/S chair at Flag and had Lisa McPherson. attest to Clear...right before she had a psychotic break and ended up dead? Scientology kills!
I’m concerned Emily is gonna try to convince recruit young people into Scientology or at least give them the impression that it’s okay and just a religion. The reaction from half the linkin park fanbase alone is just ghastly and unbelievable Ms
A question to any former Scientologists! My 19 year old nephew and his friend went inside the Scientology building in San Francisco. They were naive enough to give the persons there, their addresses. Now I received a brochure from them (I am his legal guardian and he lives with me.) Can I stop this? Are we going to be flooded? Of all the dumb things he could do… Thank you!
I think you’re stuck on the mailing list. From what I understand, even if you move. You can try putting “Return to Sender, Not at this Address” and see if that helps. At least he didn’t give phone/emails. ❤❤
what i hear is his lack of understanding of the cult mindset. maybe that works with a different cult. but crying you were the effect is going to get sneers from the still ins.
@@katiekay3873 there was no tag here so i didn't know you posted. just happened back here for something else. that guy knows jack shit about this cult. what he was saying about moxon told me volumes about what he doesn't get. i could type for hours on why but suffice it to say he is clueless. family does not mean the same thing in the cult. the exchange on video between laraFM and her dad is EXACTLY how it goes. her dad doesn't consider being her this life dad as having any meaning whatsoever. the fools that say "free phil anderson" were not in the cult and do not understand he well knows where the door is and does not want to leave. and what you said makes no sense. if you leave you lose everybody still in. that's just how it goes.
Time Stamps:
0:00 - Intro
2:35 - Natalie Webster & Rick Alan Ross
12:36 - Could anyone have reached me when I was in Scientology?
15:07 - Importance of protesters using Scientology terms correctly
15:57 - Scientology's "CLEAR COGNITION"
21:18 - Scientology's "IDEAL ORG STRATEGY"
26:34 - Problems getting through to Scientologists
30:34 - Diddy & Scientology
32:53 - Scientology's "STATE OF CLEAR"
34:50 - Scientology's "REHABILITATION PROJECT FORCE"
35:47 - Scientology's EMPTY ORGANIZATIONS & Imminent failure
38:38 - Scientology's "SAINT HILL SIZE" org status
41:23 - Protesters getting Scientologists in trouble
44:11 - Which bases the RPF existed on
45:42 - The problem with creating OT 9 & 10
49:04 - The problem with an L. Ron Hubbard movie or biography
53:42 - David Miscavige craves power, not money.
55:37 - L. Ron Hubbard's "WHAT IS GREATNESS" hypocrisy
1:00:21 - How I reconciled the propaganda when I was in Scientology
1:02:29 - Party in Miami this Sunday!!
When I was in, I allowed the organization to have power over me. I realized the organization had no moral authority over me. At that point, I ceased granting the organization any power over me. Yet somehow the organization fears that I might do something to hurt the organization. Thus the organization has granted me some power over it.
I count about 35 staff entering the KC Org before 9 AM, and they have some part time staff. But nowhere near 200.
I agree with Jenna Miscavige…as a 2nd gen ex cult member myself (not Scientology).. as Dr Janja Lalich says we place these nuggets of info on the shelf .. the shelf eventually breaks … thank you 🙏 Aaron for this channel.. it is so enlightening …
I have a sign that says "Has the KC Org Grown Much Since Going Ideal?". The 5th anniversary of the Kansas City Org going Ideal is coming up soon.
I have another sign that says" What is the KC Org hiding? Nothing. The Org is Hiding all the Nothingness"
Such a truth to tell!
@@katiekay3873 When we show up, they pull the curtains and add more hiding tech between the front door and the reception desk. Except once when they were body routing in front of the org.
Thank you Aaron
The internet is information and information is kryptonite to a religion that says communication is everything. M'kay....
Rick is a top shelf guy!! He’s been on the front lines fighting cults for decades.
Years ago, Rick Ross was a guest on daytime Talkshows and discussed Deprograming of concerned parents, adult children.
And then he mentioned being repeatedly suided in court by Scientology lawyers in to bankruptcy.
Brave man
As a never in but still a “victim” of SA from a parent…”victim” is offensive to most of us. In or out of a cult. This was my main connection to SPTV and then of course, I loved the messages you were sharing and the growth I didn’t exactly know was possible. Thanks for all you and Jenna do for this community and mine!!
It sounds like the clear cognition is the thing that would have planted that seed for you, Aaron!
For certain, telling any person is a member of a cult is not persuasive or effective. "Cult," has a negative connotation.
No one who feels insulted will be persuaded to your point of view.
If a conversation on beliefs versus actual behavior can be had, that is the best approach.
Loved this video Aaron. It was truthful, interesting, well thought out, made great points and best of all very funny!
Definitely don’t just trash them on the bad stuff and tell them they’re idiots… it just fits in what cult leaders ALL tell their members…. “THEY are against us, they’re ALL haters. They are going to attack us! It’s us against THEM!” And when it happens they say… “SEE, I told you so… because I know all!” When they are confronted with scorn, the cult members just shut it out because they’re expecting the negativity.
Fascinating Aaron! Love listening to you!
Some early thoughts whilst still watching
1. DM is a cuckoo,laid in a nest that wasn't his, eradicating all competition to ensure his success. Well, except for fact that cuckoos lay their eggs in tiny songbirds nests, and outgrow it, being much larger birds 😂
2. Protesters might not be able to move the needle on SO or public who are fully committed, BUT I bet it's another brick in the wall for those who do have doubts, so it's very important to keep doing it.
I have a brilliant story about Russell Miller's book and my interaction with Poole Scientologists in the UK. It is an excellent book too
So, if i go sign up at my local church and give them the clear cognition on my first or second audit, is there any chance i could convince them that I'm LRH?
Replay crew. "The Ron Mag" 🤣🤣
Interesting and engaging as always Aaron
I have heard that if one locates the purpose of a scientologist then they will leave the organization and pursue that purpose. If the purpose is to become an artist then they will pursue that purpose. For me I had the goal to build vacuum tube amplifiers. I have been declared an illegal pre-clear but I really wanted to get some auditing so I ran a few repair lists solo and I realized my basic goal for existence in this universe. I can only speak for myself but I hope this helps in getting someone out of scientology.
thanks!
34:00 Speaking of false Clear attestations, wasn't it the lil fella himself who jumped into the C/S chair at Flag and had Lisa McPherson. attest to Clear...right before she had a psychotic break and ended up dead? Scientology kills!
I’m concerned Emily is gonna try to convince recruit young people into Scientology or at least give them the impression that it’s okay and just a religion. The reaction from half the linkin park fanbase alone is just ghastly and unbelievable Ms
Make up some bigass posters
Do most who begin Scientology classes not know that a science fiction writer started a science fiction church ?
A question to any former Scientologists! My 19 year old nephew and his friend went inside the Scientology building in San Francisco. They were naive enough to give the persons there, their addresses.
Now I received a brochure from them (I am his legal guardian and he lives with me.) Can I stop this? Are we going to be flooded?
Of all the dumb things he could do…
Thank you!
I think you’re stuck on the mailing list. From what I understand, even if you move. You can try putting “Return to Sender, Not at this Address” and see if that helps. At least he didn’t give phone/emails. ❤❤
Ask any Scientologist, "What can you do, thanks to Scientology, that I can't do?"
Is there any way to flip pulling it in back on the aggressor? Using the tone scale or something
what i hear is his lack of understanding of the cult mindset. maybe that works with a different cult. but crying you were the effect is going to get sneers from the still ins.
@@katiekay3873 there was no tag here so i didn't know you posted. just happened back here for something else. that guy knows jack shit about this cult. what he was saying about moxon told me volumes about what he doesn't get. i could type for hours on why but suffice it to say he is clueless. family does not mean the same thing in the cult. the exchange on video between laraFM and her dad is EXACTLY how it goes. her dad doesn't consider being her this life dad as having any meaning whatsoever. the fools that say "free phil anderson" were not in the cult and do not understand he well knows where the door is and does not want to leave. and what you said makes no sense. if you leave you lose everybody still in. that's just how it goes.
Not true Aaron . Scn released a bunch of lrh profile bio books and in maiden voyage and lrh birthday events they always have lrh bio stories.
Aaron, can you please not make us look at Tom Cruises cringe face anymore? Puts me in a mood!
😆thank you!