Jon used to be at a con in my area. But I was little, didn't know what DW was, and didn't know there was a con a bare hour away from where I would see my grandparents.The man would attend in full costume. My head would have exploded.
Interesting about Spielberg… obviously referencing the upcoming Paul McGann movie that would be made. Little did Pertwee know that it would be dedicated to him 😢
The Spielberg rumour was around for a good few years before the McGann movie was made. Dr who magazine was always reporting things like that in the early 90s
THIS is it! I knew this existed! Thank you for finding this for me and uploading it for all to see! A classic piece of Doctor Who and Star Trek history! LLAP
This is such a cool thing to me, I somehow never even knew about this interview before, but seeing a Doctor talk to a ST Captain is just epic, especially since they're two of my favorites of their respective franchises. It's funny seeing them mention that Spielberg may be directing Who, little did they know how differently things would go! The Who/Trek crossover comic was cool as well by the way, totally recommend it.
I discovered a new labyrinthine connection to Doctor Who by chance the other day. I watched an old 1932 British movie called "Rome Express." Looking up the cast afterwards, I learned that one of the lead actors was the first cousin of Jon Pertwee's father. A tenuous link to the Time Lord, perhaps, but there it is.
Wow I've never seen this!!! I love the politeness and the respect between them. You don't see that in interviews nowadays, it's more about the interviewers ego and their agenda
I love this so much... two legends of time and space, interacting with another like good friends. ^^ And indeed... ...Shatner as the next Doctor? That would have been amazing. XDDD
It's technically not a Doctor Who Star Trek crossover, we never had one inside of original media, but this is still quite impressive. I didn't know this gem was even a thing. Considering all we know about the BBC, it's funny to hear William Shatner say he would play Doctor Who as that would never happen, it is as British as it gets. But it would've been fun to imagine that crossover at the time or even at the time of TNG, that would've been great for sure.
@@joevictor53 It's not "inside of original media" which is the tv series, as I implied in my comment. I know about the comic book Assimilation, but even if one argued about it being canon (which could be, though not officially), it's still Star Trek TNG, not TOS. Nothing against TNG, it's just I wish we had a cameo with the original series too, especially on television (probably never gonna happen unless the mouse owns CBS or something else happens).
Apparently Terry Nation, the creator of many.of Dr Who characters notably the Daleks and also the late 1970s/early 1980s series of Blake's 7 intended that there should be a crossover between Dr Who and Blake's 7, but the BBC didn't like the idea, there was an accidental double booking in a chalk quarry where Tom Baker came round the corner chased by some Daleks while the crew of the Scorpio in Blake's 7 were exploring a desolate planet, but that was as close as that ever came. Blake's 7 was influenced by Star Trek, but the Terran Federation in Blake's 7 was a sinister Neo-Nazi organisation and Blake and later Avon's crew were rather more Robin Hood in space and the heroes have their dark sides and often the baddies win so in that way not a lot like Star Trek or Dr Who, but with many actors from Dr Who, Space 1999, Hammer Horror & even some who appeared as guests in Star Trek I think, Paul Darrow based the character of Kerr Avon loosely on a sort of mix of Humphrey Bogart, Richard Burton and Captain Kirk. Apparently William Shatner was aware of Blake's 7 at the time.
@@MichaelKearsley I totally forgot about Blake's 7 but I heard a similar story too. I actually haven't gone too deep with Blake's 7 (despite the fact it's a major series on the Big Finish catalogue too) but that would make a lot of sense. If they had continued and they had that close tie-in with Doctor Who, I bet it would've been just as interesting as a Doctor Who/Star Trek crossover. I can see Doctor Who working a lot better with Star Trek, but I believe it was not out of reach for Blake's 7. I mean, I can see the crossover dissolving into the typical Doctor Who dynamics the show is known for, but that could've been a benefit to Blake's 7 as well, especially if they added new dynamics for the show while keeping the main elements relevant. I think it could've worked. In fact, Big Finish proved that to some extent.
Cool video post, thanks! My personal memories, I was around 12yo and went to the midtown NYC Hilton to a Star Trek convention around 1976/7. Later in life, I was married to my 3rd wife watching Shatner in his last Trek film in the theaters in the 1990s and Whoopi Goldberg totally F' d that experience up. True memories. I have TOS on DVD with the original effects and will play it again because my same 3rd wife never watched it and is much entertained. We have been married 27 years now, lol. I watched Dr Who with my kids when they were growing up too, FYI. Sci Fi is great.
Two of my favourite sci-fi franchises. Though in recent instalments, I was honestly more thrilled to see the Enterprise-D return in the last season of Picard than David Tennant's return as the 14th Doctor for the 60th anniversary specials. Probably cuz we knew Tennant would return for the specials in some capacity as Whovians are so overly obsessed with him. So obsessive, it gets annoying at times. The D's return however was a surprise to be sure, but a welcome one, after its destruction in Generations.
Entertaining video. I imagine this kind of analog overseas conference call was only available to television studios and involved satellites rather than underground cables.
Came here to say that. The fourth Doctor (Tom Baker) briefly met Kirk in the graphic novel but the rest of it was taken up by the 11th Doctor (Matt Smith) teaming up with Picard.
Doctors 2 and 4 made cameo appearances in the 1985 Star Trek novel "Ishmael," but only in the background. They didn't interact with any other characters.
Hey Cedric. Are you attending the Space 1999 50-year anniversary convention at Heathrow this year? Be good to catch up. Haven’t seen you for 20+ years.
Love how both Doctor Who and Star Trek started off with a Bill in their respective leading cast. Though two Bills in Who as there was also Bill Russell as original companion Ian Chesterton.
Did you know William Shatner was going to start a women's lingerie business after the original star trek, but it never got off the ground "Shatner Panties" didn't have a good ring to it🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Doctor Who wasn't exactly what you would call an unknown thing at the time of the filming of Generations. I'm pretty sure Shatner knew about it. You can dislike him all you want, but it's pretty dumb to think he had never heard of it.
William Shatner and Jon Pertwee, fantastic. But is William Shatner surprised about Dr. Who? It rather be surprising if he never heard of it. I think in his travels among Sci Fi conventions he probably heard about it a few times. And aware of it's existence. I think he was just surprised by Jon Pertwee speaking to him.
Americans didn't get Dr. Who back in the day, it came rather late. By the time the show finished in 89, it was known by a small section of fans over there. The new series was more available to them and has garnered a cult following in America.
Some PBS stations aired the Tom Baker seasons during the 1980s. For most US fans of the show, Tom Baker and Elisabeth Sladen were all we knew of Doctor Who.
The Star Trek movie he is referring to was released in 1994. This is also before the TV movie entered development, hence the abandoned Spielberg mention. Shatner also says he is not done filming his last appearance as Kirk. So it places the interview in early 1994.
Gary Seven, King of the crossovers. At least in the Star Trek novel, "Assignment Eternity". In that book, other adventures are referenced. Featuring John Steed, Emma Peel and Number 6 from "The Prisoner". A failed attempt to bust him out of "The Village", and a run in with Cybernauts, the killer robots from "The Avengers".
Nope, everyone forever sees him as Kirk, and not the other actors who played that character since. Nobody says he is a Hooker. 😂 also did you see the tell? He looked to the left and scratched his arm, that meant he was lying. He was hoping to play Kirk again and he did.
Spielberg's production company (Amblin) were in talks to make a Doctor Who movie continuation in the 90s but it never happened. It eventually became the Paul McGann movie.
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They have chemistry. Jon was my Dr Who and Bill was my captain.
Ok that's nice sticking with Tom Baker there my 2 favorite. Jon Pertwee & Tom Baker.
Before Tom and Jon, William Hartnell was 'my' Dr. Who. His crankiness made the character for me, dealing with far lesser mortals everywhere...
Not Bones then?
@@jonnyq680 Bill Hartnell, Bill Russell (Ian Chesterton), Bill Shatner, Bill Pertwee (Jon's relative). So many Bills😄
I feel privileged to have met both of these gentlemen
Jon used to be at a con in my area. But I was little, didn't know what DW was, and didn't know there was a con a bare hour away from where I would see my grandparents.The man would attend in full costume. My head would have exploded.
Shatner is no gentleman.
Interesting about Spielberg… obviously referencing the upcoming Paul McGann movie that would be made. Little did Pertwee know that it would be dedicated to him 😢
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The Spielberg rumour was around for a good few years before the McGann movie was made. Dr who magazine was always reporting things like that in the early 90s
@@klisher Rumor had it he made BTTF because he couldn’t get the rights to Who. George Lucas couldn’t get Flash Gordon, and wrote his own space serial…
It sounds like William Shatner never heard of Doctor Who.
At that point in time, it was still largely unknown in North America. And of course, Shatner has a life. ;-)
@@SammEater It might as well be.
The one thing he at least did was act with respect towards Jon and they seemed to have a bit of fun chatting
Shatner still thinks he's the king of LiveVideo.
@@amfe52 How do you figure?
That was pure genius. It was like the ultimate crossover of my childhood favourites. Awesome!!. Thanks for putting this up.
Jon and Bill both seemed to really enjoy and embrace their respective roles both during and after their time
THIS is it! I knew this existed! Thank you for finding this for me and uploading it for all to see! A classic piece of Doctor Who and Star Trek history! LLAP
You're Welcome
Even more iconic than when Craig Charles kissed William Shatner on Space Cadets!
This is such a cool thing to me, I somehow never even knew about this interview before, but seeing a Doctor talk to a ST Captain is just epic, especially since they're two of my favorites of their respective franchises. It's funny seeing them mention that Spielberg may be directing Who, little did they know how differently things would go!
The Who/Trek crossover comic was cool as well by the way, totally recommend it.
Jon Pertwee was my favourite Dr Who, I always wanted to see his son Sean as a regeneration.
It's kind of sad he sad in so many words, no. I guess he feels he couldn't do the role justice like his dad did.
We where lucky to have Jon as he was reassigned from HMS hood days before the Bismarck destoryed it.
K, that was awesome! Thanks for preserving that little bit of fandom crossover.
I discovered a new labyrinthine connection to Doctor Who by chance the other day. I watched an old 1932 British movie called "Rome Express." Looking up the cast afterwards, I learned that one of the lead actors was the first cousin of Jon Pertwee's father. A tenuous link to the Time Lord, perhaps, but there it is.
Wow I've never seen this!!! I love the politeness and the respect between them. You don't see that in interviews nowadays, it's more about the interviewers ego and their agenda
I never knew how much of a class act Jon Pertwee was.
What?! How is this not more well known?! How did i not know about it?! This is awesome beyond belief!
One of the most iconic Sci-Fi actors, and actors in general, of the 20th century, and also Shatner is there.
I love this so much... two legends of time and space, interacting with another like good friends. ^^ And indeed...
...Shatner as the next Doctor? That would have been amazing. XDDD
Very charming. Thanks for sharing this!
Huzzah, this has been re-uploaded! I thought I'd never see this again on youtube.
It's technically not a Doctor Who Star Trek crossover, we never had one inside of original media, but this is still quite impressive. I didn't know this gem was even a thing. Considering all we know about the BBC, it's funny to hear William Shatner say he would play Doctor Who as that would never happen, it is as British as it gets. But it would've been fun to imagine that crossover at the time or even at the time of TNG, that would've been great for sure.
You know that they made a crossover comic book series about 10 years ago
@@joevictor53 It's not "inside of original media" which is the tv series, as I implied in my comment.
I know about the comic book Assimilation, but even if one argued about it being canon (which could be, though not officially), it's still Star Trek TNG, not TOS. Nothing against TNG, it's just I wish we had a cameo with the original series too, especially on television (probably never gonna happen unless the mouse owns CBS or something else happens).
Hmmmm...and yet there are therories out there that the Doctor's real name is Doc Emmett Brownscratch head🤔🕧
Apparently Terry Nation, the creator of many.of Dr Who characters notably the Daleks and also the late 1970s/early 1980s series of Blake's 7 intended that there should be a crossover between Dr Who and Blake's 7, but the BBC didn't like the idea, there was an accidental double booking in a chalk quarry where Tom Baker came round the corner chased by some Daleks while the crew of the Scorpio in Blake's 7 were exploring a desolate planet, but that was as close as that ever came.
Blake's 7 was influenced by Star Trek, but the Terran Federation in Blake's 7 was a sinister Neo-Nazi organisation and Blake and later Avon's crew were rather more Robin Hood in space and the heroes have their dark sides and often the baddies win so in that way not a lot like Star Trek or Dr Who, but with many actors from Dr Who, Space 1999, Hammer Horror & even some who appeared as guests in Star Trek I think, Paul Darrow based the character of Kerr Avon loosely on a sort of mix of Humphrey Bogart, Richard Burton and Captain Kirk. Apparently William Shatner was aware of Blake's 7 at the time.
@@MichaelKearsley I totally forgot about Blake's 7 but I heard a similar story too. I actually haven't gone too deep with Blake's 7 (despite the fact it's a major series on the Big Finish catalogue too) but that would make a lot of sense.
If they had continued and they had that close tie-in with Doctor Who, I bet it would've been just as interesting as a Doctor Who/Star Trek crossover. I can see Doctor Who working a lot better with Star Trek, but I believe it was not out of reach for Blake's 7. I mean, I can see the crossover dissolving into the typical Doctor Who dynamics the show is known for, but that could've been a benefit to Blake's 7 as well, especially if they added new dynamics for the show while keeping the main elements relevant.
I think it could've worked. In fact, Big Finish proved that to some extent.
A classic piece of scifi history.
Cool video post, thanks! My personal memories, I was around 12yo and went to the midtown NYC Hilton to a Star Trek convention around 1976/7. Later in life, I was married to my 3rd wife watching Shatner in his last Trek film in the theaters in the 1990s and Whoopi Goldberg totally F' d that experience up. True memories. I have TOS on DVD with the original effects and will play it again because my same 3rd wife never watched it and is much entertained. We have been married 27 years now, lol. I watched Dr Who with my kids when they were growing up too, FYI. Sci Fi is great.
Cult is cool. It means not mainstream but still has a loyal following. There both mainstream now. Still love them both
Jon....the ONLY 'Doctor' IMO!
I've never seen this. thanks for posting it.
Shatner can still play the 16th Doctor.
I'm such a nerd I love this
Absolutely brilliant and a pure joy to watch.
"I'm surprised the universe didn't fall into a black hole..." 🤣🤣🤣
Two of my favourite sci-fi franchises. Though in recent instalments, I was honestly more thrilled to see the Enterprise-D return in the last season of Picard than David Tennant's return as the 14th Doctor for the 60th anniversary specials. Probably cuz we knew Tennant would return for the specials in some capacity as Whovians are so overly obsessed with him. So obsessive, it gets annoying at times. The D's return however was a surprise to be sure, but a welcome one, after its destruction in Generations.
I was waiting for him to offer a cup of tea and a slice of cake.
Jon, upon viewing the script: “Isleworth, Middlesex ... that’s easy for YOU to say!” 😊
I met Jon Pertwee in 1993.
So did I, in 1995.
I thought I met him in 2021, but my psychiatrist corrected me: it actually was Patrick Troughton.
1987
@@henkman00 Your psychiatrist also takes liberties when you're hypnotised on his couch.
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...good.
Saw and heard William Shatner speak at Comicpalooza yesterday in Houston.
Entertaining video. I imagine this kind of analog overseas conference call was only available to television studios and involved satellites rather than underground cables.
They are both great in this interview from thirty ish years ago, I guess 1993 if Generations was filming at the same time.
2 fabulous forever pieces of my most loved modern mythology
Is it my imagination, or does Shatner attempt a Wiliam Hartnell impression at the end?
Doctor Who and Spielberg? Were there talks of a DW movie at that time? I never knew that.
If I remember right Amblin Entertainment (Spielbergs production company) had seen an early draft of the Paul McGann movie and were up for making it.
These days, we're about as likely to see a Spielberg "TJ Hooker" movie.
Tom Baker, then Jon Pertwee a very close second are / were my favorite Doctors.
Captain Kirk and Dr. Who never actually met until 2012, in the crossover graphic novel Assimilation².
Came here to say that. The fourth Doctor (Tom Baker) briefly met Kirk in the graphic novel but the rest of it was taken up by the 11th Doctor (Matt Smith) teaming up with Picard.
Doctors 2 and 4 made cameo appearances in the 1985 Star Trek novel "Ishmael," but only in the background. They didn't interact with any other characters.
Hey Cedric. Are you attending the Space 1999 50-year anniversary convention at Heathrow this year? Be good to catch up. Haven’t seen you for 20+ years.
@@porkorosso7885 no plans to go to it. Afraid I don't recall anyone called Porko Rosso.
The crossover we have always needed. I ike to think of timelords as early Q
So how's the Speilberg project going?
I don't know why there weren't more intentional crossovers...although I do get the strong impression that neither was familiar with the other's work.
I had no idea this existed. And I'm sorry to say, Admiral Kirk, it is NOT so ephemeral as all that. Bezos didn't launch TJ Hooker into space.
3:32 Love how Mr. Spock only seems a little FASCINATED at the idea of Shatner being Dr Who😅
RIP Jon
Kirk is the best captain in my opinion and the original series is the best Star Trek!
William Shatner was 60 years old in this.
To be fair Doctor Who wasn't shown in America until Tom Baker, I don't think.
Doctor Who first shown in the US 1972.
@@cedricwhiting6679 Well, I stand corrected.
Maybe Spielberg will end up directing a Dr Who movie , who knows
Is that Bill Shatner doing Bill Hartnell?? Lol 3:28
Love how both Doctor Who and Star Trek started off with a Bill in their respective leading cast. Though two Bills in Who as there was also Bill Russell as original companion Ian Chesterton.
Did you know William Shatner was going to start a women's lingerie business after the original star trek, but it never got off the ground "Shatner Panties" didn't have a good ring to it🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
My sides
wow that would have been something. William Shatner as Dr who. I think he would have been great. :)
Somewhere in the star trek universe is the U.S.S Troutbridge
Doctor Who wasn't exactly what you would call an unknown thing at the time of the filming of Generations. I'm pretty sure Shatner knew about it. You can dislike him all you want, but it's pretty dumb to think he had never heard of it.
Very interesting.
I'm so happy that Shatner was wrong about "the end of Captain Kirk".
Omg!!!!!!
as close as we get to Kirk meeting dr who
William Shatner and Jon Pertwee, fantastic. But is William Shatner surprised about Dr. Who? It rather be surprising if he never heard of it. I think in his travels among Sci Fi conventions he probably heard about it a few times. And aware of it's existence. I think he was just surprised by Jon Pertwee speaking to him.
Americans didn't get Dr. Who back in the day, it came rather late. By the time the show finished in 89, it was known by a small section of fans over there.
The new series was more available to them and has garnered a cult following in America.
Some PBS stations aired the Tom Baker seasons during the 1980s. For most US fans of the show, Tom Baker and Elisabeth Sladen were all we knew of Doctor Who.
I don't think Bill was doing many conventions at that point.
At first glance I thought Peewee Herman was interviewing Shatner.
I'm TTID(and beyond). I'm not Enic. Finished with them. Just more shame for supporters. Could go on and on but there's no point.
Shatz never heard of either Jon Pertwee nor Doctor Who. 😂😂😂
Shatners interview was prerecorded, not live.
Really?
Oh damn this really happened?!
Oh my god, thank the maker we averted the timeline where Bill Shatner was Doctor Who. SMH, that would have been dreadful...
Well, in the modern series, there's Dalek Caan. "CAAAAAAN!!!"
When was this ?
1996
The Star Trek movie he is referring to was released in 1994. This is also before the TV movie entered development, hence the abandoned Spielberg mention. Shatner also says he is not done filming his last appearance as Kirk. So it places the interview in early 1994.
Star Trek and Gary Seven = Doctor Who.
Come back Richard and Judy all is forgiven
A mysterious figure able to travel in time and space with a handheld tool that conveniently help him get out a jam? Wasn't that Gary Seven?
Gary Seven, King of the crossovers. At least in the Star Trek novel, "Assignment Eternity". In that book, other adventures are referenced. Featuring John Steed, Emma Peel and Number 6 from "The Prisoner". A failed attempt to bust him out of "The Village", and a run in with Cybernauts, the killer robots from "The Avengers".
@@billsilver6429 Ah, yes John Steed, a true master of the umbrella martial arts.
Cool stuff. Too bad Tom Baker wasn't interviewed by Captain Kirk. Oh well.
Nope, everyone forever sees him as Kirk, and not the other actors who played that character since. Nobody says he is a Hooker. 😂 also did you see the tell? He looked to the left and scratched his arm, that meant he was lying. He was hoping to play Kirk again and he did.
Steven Spielberg and Doctor Who?
Spielberg's production company (Amblin) were in talks to make a Doctor Who movie continuation in the 90s but it never happened. It eventually became the Paul McGann movie.
What the hell was that? Lol
I stopped watching Dr Who after Jon Pertwee I didn't like Tom Baker he seemed a bit mad to me!😳
Star Trek Generations id horrid.
"Doctor Who and Captain Kirk have never met" That's cause his name isn't Doctor Who!!!!
ew
Thank you so very very much!!!!
Nobody ever said "Beam Me Up..." ah never mind 😆
Two of my favourite Male icons growing up that added to my moral compass my parents had laid down, fighting evil, human decency, compassion and never giving up, respect
Worzel meets TJ Hooker