I've had this happen to me in real life. Someone asked a question about my childhood and I responded factually, not harping on or anything just simply stating I was raised by a single father and someone else was like "this is depressing, let's change the topic". People are wild af. I guess next time I'll lie and say my parents never got divorced lmaooooo. Oh and the awkward silence that followed was so fun
It is a big bucket of bummer, but he should of also followed with sorry for your lose, hope you get through things. Or something then it's done. No need for a melt down.
@@XerNation it's a simple question, personally I would of just replied good, great, ok, not so great ect. Then asked if to elaborate then I'd go into detail but that's just the culture here, we use phrases like "how's it going" or "where yah been" as a greeting lol but still all she said was her mum died then he flipped out over negative energy. Like chill have a snickers or something 😆
Life is a big bucket of bummer, this guy can't hang at all. I like to think maybe he's also been through something similar and he wants to push it away but that was pretty horrendous to have someone open up to him and he just flash out and go ape shit.
THAT would be fucking poetic !!! Then chat could roast his ass about bringing down vibe and ask stupid questions like " why you streaming if all you gonna do is sulk on stream bro ? " IF ANYBODY NEEDS TO BE CANCELED, ITS THIS DOUCHE!
SAME. and im sorry for your loss. i lost my dad last year and its a horrible thing to go through. i cant imagine telling someone i know this and they get mad i told them. disgraceful.
@@tot8037I’m really sorry for both you’re losses their in a better place now, I pray that you and you’re family’s are doing well and that you get through these tough times, Rip to both you’re relatives ❤🕊
Goes to show he doesn't care about his viewers....even sending his followers to attack her on Twitter as they call her a clout chaser when she did nothing wrong even mocking her for being a little chunky...yeah that streamer is THAT pathetic!
99% of streamers don't give a single shit about the people watching. Its all about the money that the people watching bring. Anyone that thinks otherwise is just stupid and can't understand people on the internet.
@@DeltaDrifter2201 I literally stopped watching a streamer because he stopped playing games his audience asked him to play (after asking what they wanted him to play) because those games hurt his viewer growth. Like, this is your audience dude...
Exactly. This whole shit would be so much easier to "gloss over" by 30 seconds of "Oh man, that sucks. I am glad to see you back, and I hope we can bring some smiles to your day" or a similar overused kindness. Platitude? Maybe, but a hell of a lot better than this mess.
exactly wtf lmao what a tool . man these fuckin influencers streamers whatever are just usually terrible humans like most celebs (which I know from experience from being around them so it's not like just hating lol) it's wild like you wouldn't be shit without the ppl you treat like garbage. man if that girl actually needs to talk I'll talk shit my dad died so I get it. just wild the entitlement and douchebaggary of some of these ppl
100% this. If he had simply answered "oh man, sorry to hear that" and then just moved on, that would have been ok. But making such a deal about this and showing absolutely no understanding/empathy/concern will probably speedrun the end of this streamer's career.
@@goingslowlynowhere I mean, most people actually care when someone's parent dies. That's like top ten worst things that happen to a normal person. This dude just doesn't care
@@jtb357no he doesn’t, but maybe he would have asked to look better, cause all these scum care about is money and clout, so they want to act like they care
she obviously didnt think she was wrong. she made a sappy tweet trying to garner even more sympathy than she would have. think about it, she didnt think she was in the wrong enough to not tweet it. you must be new to twitch drama. im not saying hes in the right, im saying that she definitely knew what she was doing by tweeting that
@@victoria-cp4ui she wouldnt have put "i know im in the wrong" on a PUBLIC tweet literally linking the clip where she was supposedly "in the wrong" if she actually thought she was in the wrong. i know how twitter works, not everything should be taken at face value
I had a friend do this to me but he said “dude i aint your therapist” which hit hard cause i thought he was a friend since then i just roll with family no friends just other people
@@asant90 I mean believe it or not he actually is trying to look out for you if you're telling him so much that that's the response he gives then you probably need a therapist doesn't sound like he said it the right way but you gotta talk to a therapist if you're trauma dumping that much
@@MrNegima10 Would it sound odd of he said he can't afford a therapist. Or even worse alot of people don't like talking to them cause alot of therapists are cold or even condescending. Usually if u talk about ur feelings u wanna talk to people ur comfortable with.
She wasn’t trauma-dumping. She just answered his question, and all he had to do was give a small gesture of sympathy and move on. It's not that hard to be like, “sorry for your loss, glad you're here!”
People who use the term “trauma dumping” should never expect anyone to open up to them. Because opening up and talking will just always be labeled as trauma dumping
he could have just said, "I'm sorry, hope you're doing well" and get on with the convo. instead, he rolled a 1 on charisma check and chose the worst dialogue he could have said.
Losing a parent is one of the worst sorrows to go through in life. The fact he shamed her for giving a reasonable response on an awful experience is stupendously stupid.
EXACTLY! He made her situation seem less than it actually was, devaluing a human life that was precious to her. Truly disgusting stuff. Hope his career falls into a pit.
@@dudeimgeorge how is it attention shit if the streamer asked that person? The streamer could've just said something like " oh I'm so sorry for the loss " period end of story. 🤦♂️
"Trauma dumping" has been a phrase so abused by streamers/youtubers as an excuse not to give an one-line sympathy because streamers/youtubers are too mentally weak to sympathize and handle someone else's tramau.
@@jess17376 so you think the job of a therapist is just listen to a few sentences and give one line response? Do you think people pay therapist just to hear “oh, I am sorry for you”? If so, I guess chat is “treating the streamer as a therapist”. If not, think though what is the job of a therapist before dumping the standard phrase “treat sb like a therapist”.
The fact that these terms even exist is just so creepy. People are WAY too obsessed with the internet and people doing shit on cameras. People gaining fame and clout from playing shit in front of a camera 😂
It's literally easier to have no empathy and say just: "oh I'm sorry for your loss." In like 2 seconds then forget about it. He did literally everything wrong.
If I lose a parent, I wouldn't break it in front of thousands of people who have nothing to do with my personal life. I would keep it to myself and my close friends and relatives. Penguinz and others like him should stop virtue signalling on issues like this.
@@TheKomentor it's cool you'd choose not to talk about it. It's cool that she decided too talk about it when asked. Both of those are fine. His response wasn't
@@TheKomentor well not everyone thinks or act slike you, nor should they. He asked her a question and she replied honestly and bluntly. Seriously, not you also blaming the victim when all that man had to say was "damn that sucks, sorry for your loss" and move on.
What’s so insane is that instead of feeling bad for her, he feels bad for HIMSELF for having to hear about it. You think it’s hard to hear? Imagine how hard it is to go through something like that
As someone who had a parent pass away, this type of thing is traumatizing. A few months after my mom passed, someone (a customer) shamed me at work in a somewhat similar way, and I had to take my lunch break early, I was sobbing. I'm glad the majority of the internet is on her side, and I hope that she makes it through this whole ordeal okay.
ngl ive had parent pass away and never would i trauma dump it onto a streamer 1 because its TMI and 2 because its literally a suicide pass where all the streamer can do is make a pitiful comment about you or everyone gets mad or they ignore you, but this guy handled the drama so poorly its insane. could have just said "i dont care i dont like negative donos" and anyone online getting mad is just being soy because he didnt wanna listen to trauma dump donos
As a suicidal person I can tell you that I felt like such a bother to people that I would say “I’m good” like he is telling people to say. So when I first attempted people were SHOOK to their core cause they had no idea. If I just talked about it in the first place I probably wouldn’t have gotten to that point. It takes two seconds for a person to feel heard with just a simple “I’m sorry I hope you feel better”
I know exactly how you feel. For most of my life I thought my suicidal ideation and mental illnesses were stupid, exaggerated, and a burden to other people. Little did I know that telling someone about it after years of letting it fester would leave me in the hospital 4 different times... Unempathetic, heartless, selfish, horrible people like him are the reason people are scared to speak out. We don't deserve that. ❤❤
@@Lynnie2005remember suicide doesn’t end the pain in moves it, honestly I’ve been there 2005 I’m guessing you’re very young, I strongly believe in a few years you will look back on this with a fondness ( i know that’s not a word) but you will look back on it almost proud you got through it trust me on this life is beautiful keep going keep churning the days out work on yourself build deeper connections with those around you, you’ve got this I know you have.
The man who raised me, not my blood, gave me one really great piece of advice. If you aren't willing to hear any possible answer for a question you're asking, don't ask it
He doesn't want to bum the stream out, but will absolutely make an apology video live on stream, and then spend the entire next day talking about it again.
@@halogod0298 he doesn’t have to care. Hell he didn’t even have to read her response. What he didn’t have to do was lecture her on “stream etiquette” and have a tantrum on how her response to his question dampened his mood when HER mom passed away
@@halogod0298 Bc he asked and bc it's basic human decency. Death plagues us all, the least someone could do is be empathetic to something we all experience. Or at least ignore what she said and not be rude...
all he had to say was “i’m sorry that happened, my condolences. i hope you and your family will be comforted and heal… ANYWAY!” and i feel like that would have been fine
I Hope she sees this knowing that we’re all on her side. He asked “Hey where you been?” And she answered it honestly and in a simplistic way to not make it about her or made it upsetting.
She definitely wasn’t “trauma dumping.” If she’s a regular in a 55 average viewer stream then I can absolutely see why she’d feel comfortable enough to say, “my mom died” instead of “something horrible happened!” The fact that this guy was so angry at her and has “strict rules” against sharing bad news is very telling.
@@joer2237 Any successful streamer would've been able to avoid drama here, easily. The fact that he's gone so far off the rails for being told he's wrong just shows he's not cut out to be one anyways.
@@joer2237 Is it really attention seeking if HE asked? Like she just said exactly what happened. If you ask someone where they been/how they are don't always expect good news. If you only want good news then don't ask. He coulda said "oh hey nice to see you again we missed you" instead of asking where she'd been.
@@vinccool96 yes and the best way to avoid getting angry, irrationally is to fully embrace and control your masculinity. This is the example of a man who’s been forced to suppress his masculinity, so it explodes out without his control when he’s in an uncomfortable situation. Masculinity is toxic when the person cannot control themselves.
@@jennanone1878 @Xenomoth @EmeNova355 Toxic masculinity is not a toxic male. Toxic masculinity is the toxic stereotype that men should always be strong, harsh, never show their feelings, and all those craps that are toxic to a man's self-esteem and mental health, because you think you're not a "real man" when you show compassion, or show your emotions. That self pressure can often lead to increased psychological problems in men such as depression, increased stress, aggressiveness, and substance use disorders.
as somebody who HAS been treated like a therapist in my personal life, there is a MASSIVE GULF between that toxic behavior and just sharing one's feelings and life news (i.e. normal human social behavior). to be clear, what this person did was the latter. the streamer freaked out and basically said don't have emotions or be a human in front of me I can't handle it. what an absolute goofball
She didn't ruin the vibe on his stream, HE DID. Any reasonable person can control the tone of their response to recover from a deflating or akward moment by BEING HUMAN and moving on - instead he just had a meltdown because he is clearly so low vibration and so weak-willed that any outside influence can destabilize him.
"he is clearly so low vibration and so weak-willed that any outside influence can destabilize him" THAT PART. Maybe he needs more filtering of his chat if he can't handle this without it being so upsetting to him. He had every opportunity to handle this like an adult.
What really sucks is that she really lost a parent and he’s trying to lecture her just for answering the question. Dude went on a whole rant against her all while knowing that she is suffering.
“Where you been?” “Honestly, my mom died and it’s been hard.” “Oh shoot man, I’m sorry to hear that. Well, we’re glad to have you back, hopefully we can raise those spirits with this stream! Let’s go guys, Ws in the chat for DirtyKirby for pushing through while I get through this menu screen.” That’s how easy it could’ve been.
I was gonna say something exactly like this and I completely agree. This is how he should have handled it, especially that person being a regular in his community is wild
most twitch viewers are 14 year olds who blindly agree with anything the streamer does, because they feel they have no other place in life so they think submitting 8 hours out of their day to someone who doesn't care about their existence is somehow going to fix their issues
@@anomaly3215 I feel like that's most people I encounter on a game or in social media nowadays. They find it funny to just say the most horrific stuff as a "joke" and they don't realize digital footprint could screw them over for that.
@@user-uo5jx7sg6h Eh, streamer =/= audience all the time, I've seen plenty of audiences turn on the streamer/creator because of something they did/said.
"Oh your mom died? I'm so sorry to hear that dude, let's hope we can get some good vibes going this stream to cheer you up" This situation could have been completely avoided with that sentence.
As a former partnered streamer this pisses me off. The fact that she came to HIS stream after something so tragic... She went into the stream with hopes of being cheered up and got shitted on about her mom passing. Dude is a P.O.S for that.
Exactly this. Dude couldn't even take a second to think about the fact that on potentially the worst day of her life she chose his stream to lift her spirits and he fucking raked her over the coals. What a fucking dipshit
The fact that she thinks she's "in the wrong a little" for being honest about what happened is bonkers. Girl, no you're not. You answered a question that he asked honestly. I feel so bad for her feeling like she did something wrong because she didn't in any way
You have to guess the die hard fanboys of the streamer are coming to his defense. Plus Twitter is magnet for people who have the worst takes in really clear situations
Now we're policing 'trauma-dumping' to the point that people can't act human. No feelings, no depth, you can only act happy and engage in shallow small-talk.
I got a (non cancerous) tumor taken out of my back and i couldnt sleep, so i picked a random streamer and watched them late at night. I mentioned what had happened, and the dude told his chat to give me love. The chat stream flooded with hearts and well-wishes. It was one of the sweetest things anyone had ever done for me. It was maybe one of three total times I was on Twitch, but I subbed to the dude just for that act alone. It was pretty baller.
True story. I had a friend on Facebook I didn’t know that well. We got along fine, but she wasn’t a close friend. One night I received a message from her on Facebook. Her husband had been killed in an accident and she knew I was often online late, so, in desperation, she sent me a message. At first I was, “Phek, who’s texting me now?” And, “I’ll get rid of them fast.” Then I read the message and knew humanity has to come first. I have many flaws, but this wasn’t one of them. I ended talking to her every night as she cried. I listened, and tried to be supportive, but I knew just being there was what she really needed. About a year later I was making a silly post about always wanting a cherry sunburst Les Paul. A few people were talking about things they always wanted but didn’t get. About a weeks later I got a large package in the mail. It was a Cherry sunburst Gibson Les Paul worth a few grand with a note thanking me for being there. In short? Though virtue is it’s own reward,,,, a new Les Paul doesn’t hoit. Be good for goodness sake,,, and sometimes it even has unique rewards. Peace,,,,
the fact he considers someone saying about 10 words as trauma dumping is insane. this girl didn’t come in explaining every single detail, asking people to help her, or expecting something more. she just explained. it takes NOTHING to be kind. i cant imagine the hurt and loss she is feeling, and to get aggressive and loud with a girl who just lost her mother is so cold and gross of him. literally lack of common sense or empathy.
Yeah, it reinforces to others: Don't express your feelings on a basic level. Where were you? Uhh, grieving to be honest. Oh...STOP BEING NEGATIVE. So much disconnection.
seriously i hate that "trauma dumping" is a term now. Sure sometimes people overshare and it can be uncomfortable, but if you're really not in the place to listen just tell them normally. Now we apparently have a term that everyone will misuse and shame normal people for not being happy 24/7 and having normal conversations about their life.
@@violetbitch9492 I've said this since i saw the word first used. It feels so... Toxicly happy. I know it's hard sometimes to have someone vented to you when you aren't really in the space to help them but even a little "I'm so sorry, I hope you feel better soon." Is MILESSSS better than getting mad at someone for 'trauma dumping"
I don't normally comment on RUclips videos, and I know this happened awhile ago, but I had to comment. I often get people come into my streams sharing unfortunate and sometimes devastating news. They will often apologise for 'bringing the mood down' or something to that effect, and I always tell them to never apologise and to always share. Fact of the matter is, livestreams are communities built up from people. People have good and bad experiences in life, and they may not have someone or somewhere that they can share difficult news. I like to think that my livestreams can offer people a safe space to share things with other people who care and wanna reassure them. It's really sad to see this, and I hope this streamer can be more empathetic in the future. Honestly, sometimes offering people a space to do that can save their lives, and at the end of the day, we should all really be looking out for eachother.
i rarely watch streams, but that is a very good way of putting. Thanks for being a normal human being with empathy instead of shaming people for expressing their situations.
“I had to read the words ‘my mother died’ and that ruined my entire day, my life is so hard, I’m going through a lot right now… oh your mother died? That’s just a minor inconvenience, and nobody cares. Somebody told me their mother died, I’m going through a lot worse right now. I’m the victim. Not you. Me.”
It's sad but at very least I hope that open the eyes of the decent people supporting him. All his words basically meant I don't give a bull shit about any of you guys.
i dont expect streamers to genuinely care that some faceless name's mother died but he went above and beyond to humiliate her. just unnecessary af i dont get it lmao
Yeah it’s so sad. Like it would feel like losing a friend if a streamer I liked did this to me. It shatters your personal view you’ve had of this person for a long time.
As awful as the situation was, props to her for staying calm throughout this. Absolutely awful that she feels in the wrong (she is not), but when I went through something similar and if someone talked to me like that, I would've gone ape mode. No mercy would be shown and I would never be quiet about it for months. No one deserves to be talked to like that.
This is horrible. Imagine having the most traumatic experience if your life and finally opening up to the community you think will be supportive and getting shamed
"Be good looking" Ah yes. Allow me to objectify you in every possible way, because you are here for MY benefit, not the other way around. This dude SUCKS and i cannot believe people pay him for the burden of his company. lmao
He just had to say “I’m so sorry for your loss, hope you’re doing okay. We’re all glad to see you join us on stream today, you’re always welcome here”. Simple, empathetic, keeps the mood light.
Even from a purely, totally selfish "what will help me the most" view that response would've been the right one. "Oh, look how good a guy he is, I can spare $5-10 to send his way". He literally said the worst possible thing from both a basic empathy and basic self-serving perspective.
I would think that after being a streamer for any real amount of time, this would be the automatic response... Him saying it's a big bummer indicates (to me) that he's had some vibe killing experiences with similar things in the past... This should have been a practice swing with the ball on a tee, and he somehow managed to assault the umpire with a bat.
this pisses me off because when I was 8 years old my father had passed away, it was one of the toughest times of my life and to see someone belittled for having a similar experience and sharing it is just terrible.
Stumbled on this video again and decided to check his channel out again cause I was curious how it's going for him. He happened to be only and still has around 50 viewers (which is already more than I expected, guess people are pretty braindead to keep watching such a clown). Funniest thing tho was when I clicked into his chat and a message popped up before I was allowed to chat, highlighting his only chat rule: "No trauma dumping" LMAO
This is the perfect example of toxic positivity. Gotta love those who are *aggressive* about their chill. Nothing more chill than berating someone after they give a real response, and then pretending you didn't. This is douche bro behaviour to the extreme, except even some of the frattiest people will just be like "sorry you have to go through that." Just... what a terrible human being. The sheer lack of empathy and decency is astounding.
Lol that's exactly it. The people who get so aggressive and defensive the moment you start talking about something real instead of just "chill vibez" are an absolute enigma
can we stop with the stupid tik tok terms jesus, tf is "toxic positivity" lmfao no its just an example of a dude being an asshole and trying to cultivate a cult like community, thats all there is to it.
" toxic positivity" Did you just make that up? Cause I've literally never heard anyone in my entire life or anyone on the internet ever use that term. Ok I googled the term, "Toxic positivity or positive toxicity is dysfunctional emotional management without the full acknowledgment of negative emotions, particularly anger and sadness." So I get it now, so now back off people.
Im sorry but anyone who has ever knowingly or unknowingly uttered a sentence similar to „aw dude stop ruining the vibes with your trauma“ really doesn’t deserve to have people close to them .
The fact that she's even donated bits to this guy and is an active viewer to get shamed like that in front of the community is crazy to me. A simple I'm sorry for your loss was all he needed to say but he flipped the switch
I'm not very Twitch fluent, but I think you pay real money for bits, meaning that she's donated actual money to this guy on top of being a fan! And he STILL shames her!? And you're exactly right, a simple 'sorry for your loss' would've been more than enough!
@@GenderedMess It really is. And like, not to get too meta here, but we (being the stream watching community) shouldn't have to "vet" the streamers we watch before investing the emotions that come with being a fan! Plus, again, she lost a parent. I feel like nearly anyone would feel compassion or sympathy here... Let alone a streamer interacting with one of their mainstays.
Imagine experiencing one of the worst things you could possibly experience and then when you try to distract yourself a little bit by watching your favorite streamer just to be lambasted for answering his question
The fact that he is berating her for "bringing down the stream's vibe" when he's the one that went on a whole rant and tangent for quite a while on stream is astonishing. The lack of self awareness and entitlement some people have is just unbelievable. Poor girl all she wanted is to have some fun watching one of her favorite streamers to distract herself and all she got was getting shamed and gaslit on live by the person she enjoyed watching.
All he had to say was "Oh shit, I'm so sorry about that. I hope your ok." and then they would've moved on in seconds. So avoidable. I guess he didn't have much to lose tho.
She was ridiculed and ignored so quickly for having the fortitude to disclose the tragedy, and they even gaslighted her into believing that she was at fault for responding honestly to a question that she didn't have to answer. That ridiculous reaction says a lot about this streamer as a "person," to put it mildly.
So true. And the fact that she took a „hiatus“ from watching him but is normally a known member in his comunity and therefor probably enjoys whatching him somehow tells me that she returned to his livestream and the chat for some sort of „comfort“ or to distract herself a little and then gets met with such an incredibly rude, discusting response by this stupid motherfucker probably caused her a lot of pain and if not pain then she definitely still felt worse than before. I feel really sorry for her. Losing a parent must be one of the greatest losses a person can endure and it wouldnt have been hard for him to at least respond somewhat empathetic and be like „im so sorry for your loss i wish you all the strength you need in those hard times and i hope that i can at least distract you a little and bring you a little joy.“ Instead of fucking lecturing her like shes a kid or some shit its honestly so disrespectful and i hope she stopped watching this dude matter of fact someone like that shouldnt even have viewers in the first place imo. Sorry for spelling mistakes and bad english im not a native speaker and sorry for the long text have a blessed one to everybody that reads this and to everybody going through rough times just know that there are amazing people around you that love you and got your back and will give you the strength you need 🙏❤️
Man. That was so bad of him to do I’m a super regular viewer in sweatcicle and demonJoe When I was off for a bit and let them know I was in the hospital for 3 months Not only was the streamer worried about me, but the whole chat was also super supportive towards me If any streamer that I’m regular on spoke to me like this, I would be heartbroken bc I only follow those who give good vibes and i enjoy watching particularly on those days I’m super down and depressed I’m just thankful the people I watch and follow are good people and don’t belittle me for my life struggles or my personality (I tend to be the clown of the group to lighten things up and send out bits on twitch to show appreciation)
I've followed a streamer once, I was a loosely an active viewer (not massively, but enough to be part of the 'in-group') and I saw them be a real ass to someone and I called them out for it, they got super defensive and it felt like a total mask-slip moment. Ended up silently unfollowing them and never showed up again. Seems I wasn't the only one because I recall hearing their view numbers plummeted in the following weeks. It really surprises me that other folk aren't the same and will offer blind loyalty to the point where they'll even join in on the whole asshole behaviour.
Her apologizing about his response makes me feel so bad because he acted completely out of proportion. My heart goes out to her and my dear condolences for her loss.
@Durgle She is not an idiot. He was the one that put her on the spot and humiliated her and she initially felt bad like she had something to apologize for. She was trying to de-escalate and I bet it didn't help that the people in chat were defending him. I feel so bad for her.
@Durgle he literally was publicly degrading her for answering a question in a way he didn't like while people were hopping on his bandwagon against her 💀 i think a lot of people would feel a bit bad or shamed in the first place even if they know later they were 100% right. im sure she just wanted it to stop 💀
one of my favorite streamers used to just say something along the lines of “aw man im sorry to hear that, hopefully i can give you a place to forget some of that real world stuff and have a good time for a while” and it honestly made the vibes so much better than keeping the heavy stuff out, just acknowledge and move on quick it’s so simple
He killed the vibe far more himself than if he just gave a normal response like "I'm sorry that happened hope the stream is able to take your mind off it"
And then he proceeds to compare someone's mom dying to a dog dying, getting divorced, and losing your house. It sounds like he's never even loved someone so much to imagine for one second losing them.
Yeah. My dog died a few months ago,.and I was super sad. Still get a little emotional when I think about him. But I couldn't even imagine losing one of my parents
I cried when my dog died, because of course I did. I love him. But even thinking too much about my parents dying causes me to cry just as much if not more than I did when my dog died. Either this dude had some crappy parents or he’s a completely insensitive piece of crap. Or he just sucks at dealing with the fact that people have to go through horrible stuff sometimes and that those people need to talk about it in order to remain emotionally and mentally stable. (Side note my parents are doing fine that’s why I specified thinking about it because while it’s always possible at least it’s not likely when it comes to health)
Man didn’t even realize he was the one ruining the stream vibes by throwing a hissy fit over someone else’s traumatic experience. Some people lack so much self awareness.
This video came up automatically and it pisses me off just as much as it did when I first watched this video. I get not wanting to deal with heavy stuff in chat all the time, but what sort of vile person just sits there and guilts and shames someone for briefly mentioning a parent passing. HE ASKED THE QUESTION. Where have you been? He’s addressing someone who seems to be normally an active member of his relatively small community, a person whose absence was obviously noticed. Did he not consider the possibility that the response he’d get might be, at the very least, somewhat negative? The absolute least he could’ve done was show her a measure of sympathy for the LOSS OF A PARENT and leaving it at that. Content creators tend to be someone’s small escape of reality, and even a comfort to people going through hard time. He could’ve taken that opportunity to show her support and comfort just at that moment without needing to be excessive or anything like that.
The way he says she was arguing with him by saying 'I just answered your question' reminds me of when a teacher is obviously in the wrong and wants to paint the student in as bad a light as possible so they resort to turning everything the student says into something spiteful and disrespectful even if the kid is making complete and total sense.
It absolutely breaks my heart that the person who just list her mother in her tweet is saying "I know I'm also in the wrong a little". Mi corazón, you are not in the wrong AT ALL. I desperately hope she can understand that and that this guy is just the worst type of monster
@-Random- I just had my grandmother die and mutiple people had asked where I was, I just told them I had a family tragedy and moved on. Being like Yeah my gma is dead Would definitely have killed the vibe for a lot of people it could've been word better 💯. That being said, he's still a hole , not providing any sort of comfort it's terrible. Even just saying sorry for your loss and moving on it's good
my Mom passed away when I was 15. In reaction to the news, a lot of people acted like how this streamer did I think it is out of fear and anxiety. A lot of people don't know how to respond to heavy news like that because they can't even fathom how it must feel. And better yet, their worst fear is to have something like that happen to them, and my presence alone is a constant reminder that bad things happen and it happens randomly and suddenly.
I’m sorry, but I would’ve told every last person who told you that to f*ck off. You deserve empathy, and trust me, as someone who is very prone to offering maybe a little too much of it to the wrong people, there is no reason to say they’re “killing” the vibes. No d*ckweed, you’re killing the vibes because you couldn’t keep your narcissistic ass mouth shut. I know sometimes it never fully goes away but I really hope you’re doing a lot better.
He literally could’ve read her response and said “damn I’m sorry, that’s rough. Glad you’re here to hang out with us now” and moved on. If he had a closer relationship with this community member he could’ve said for her to dm him or reached out to her on discord, but if not he could’ve at least done the bare minimum and said I hope we can take your mind off it of for a little or something. What he said was so horrible, gaslighting her and the whole chat by accusing her of trauma dumping unprovoked.
@@Spookatz. theres literally no good way to respond to something so heavy in that setting. it feels parasocial to tell a streamer something really deep and personal and expect them to give a caring response in the middle of a stream essentially meant to be a hangout session...
@@coriander2760 he asked for it, and she answered truthfully. Dont you make it like she just jumped in the middle of the stream and dropped a bombshell like that.
This reminds me of a stream Etika did where a chat member jokingly said in a donation that his mom died. Etika went on a 20 minute talk about how awful of a thing it is for someone’s mom to die and trying to comfort him before realizing it was a joke. Etika was Fr the goat
The fact she thought she was partially in the wrong for saying her mother died is so sad. Like no, you aren't, you literally just lost the person who created you and took care of you, that pain is unfathomable, allowing one comment to slip out and allude to that insurmountable pain is ok.
The guy is 100% an abuser, his immediate reaction is narcissistic and manipulation for taking the spot light off him for a micro second. This dude has absolutely hit women and said the phrase "why did you make me hit you?"
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“How have you been?”
“Not good, my cat died”
“SHUT THE FUCK UP, SHUT YOUR MOUTH! You can’t say that because it is sad.”
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lmao 😭
I've had this happen to me in real life. Someone asked a question about my childhood and I responded factually, not harping on or anything just simply stating I was raised by a single father and someone else was like "this is depressing, let's change the topic".
People are wild af. I guess next time I'll lie and say my parents never got divorced lmaooooo. Oh and the awkward silence that followed was so fun
what a douche canoe, it aint all puppies and kittys
Responding to the death of someone's mother as "a big bucket of bummer" is indescribably vile
I love u
It is a big bucket of bummer, but he should of also followed with sorry for your lose, hope you get through things. Or something then it's done. No need for a melt down.
Why did she want people to know anyway
@@XerNation it's a simple question, personally I would of just replied good, great, ok, not so great ect. Then asked if to elaborate then I'd go into detail but that's just the culture here, we use phrases like "how's it going" or "where yah been" as a greeting lol but still all she said was her mum died then he flipped out over negative energy. Like chill have a snickers or something 😆
Life is a big bucket of bummer, this guy can't hang at all.
I like to think maybe he's also been through something similar and he wants to push it away but that was pretty horrendous to have someone open up to him and he just flash out and go ape shit.
Imagine he goes thru a rough time and his chat just told him what he told her 💀💀
THAT would be fucking poetic !!! Then chat could roast his ass about bringing down vibe and ask stupid questions like " why you streaming if all you gonna do is sulk on stream bro ? " IF ANYBODY NEEDS TO BE CANCELED, ITS THIS DOUCHE!
lmao 🤣
"Hey guys , i guess thats it" ☠😭
what a douche canoe, it aint all puppies and kittys
@@sensz9139 how can I escape my demons when his name is Ronald
When my dad died, literal children reacted better to my grief than that grown man did.
I thought it was a streamer I watch...but I haven't been there for a while.
SAME. and im sorry for your loss. i lost my dad last year and its a horrible thing to go through. i cant imagine telling someone i know this and they get mad i told them. disgraceful.
@@tot8037I’m really sorry for both you’re losses their in a better place now, I pray that you and you’re family’s are doing well and that you get through these tough times, Rip to both you’re relatives ❤🕊
I’m Sorry for your loss. This guy responded like someone who is terrified to face his own mortality or the concept of death at all, I think.
Sorry for your loss
He didn’t even ask her how she was, he asked her WHY SHE’D BEEN GONE. Wild.
Goes to show he doesn't care about his viewers....even sending his followers to attack her on Twitter as they call her a clout chaser when she did nothing wrong even mocking her for being a little chunky...yeah that streamer is THAT pathetic!
@@chaudspielerHe’s a disgusting person for doing that to someone who’s grieving, as if what he did during the stream wasn’t enough.
exactly, he doesn't care about her, just why she wasn't there to bump up his viewer count.
99% of streamers don't give a single shit about the people watching. Its all about the money that the people watching bring. Anyone that thinks otherwise is just stupid and can't understand people on the internet.
@@DeltaDrifter2201 I literally stopped watching a streamer because he stopped playing games his audience asked him to play (after asking what they wanted him to play) because those games hurt his viewer growth. Like, this is your audience dude...
His response was WAY more damaging to the "mood" of his little show than her honest answer alone could have ever been.
Exactly. This whole shit would be so much easier to "gloss over" by 30 seconds of "Oh man, that sucks. I am glad to see you back, and I hope we can bring some smiles to your day" or a similar overused kindness. Platitude? Maybe, but a hell of a lot better than this mess.
exactly wtf lmao what a tool . man these fuckin influencers streamers whatever are just usually terrible humans like most celebs (which I know from experience from being around them so it's not like just hating lol) it's wild like you wouldn't be shit without the ppl you treat like garbage. man if that girl actually needs to talk I'll talk shit my dad died so I get it. just wild the entitlement and douchebaggary of some of these ppl
100% this. If he had simply answered "oh man, sorry to hear that" and then just moved on, that would have been ok. But making such a deal about this and showing absolutely no understanding/empathy/concern will probably speedrun the end of this streamer's career.
@@goingslowlynowhere I mean, most people actually care when someone's parent dies. That's like top ten worst things that happen to a normal person. This dude just doesn't care
@@joeyjojos5839 you mean top 3.
If she had said "Just lying low due to bad stuff" he would have 100% asked "Why, what's going on?"
Yeah because these type of streamers try to look like a saint to reel more cashgrabs.
No, he doesn't care
@@jtb357no he doesn’t, but maybe he would have asked to look better, cause all these scum care about is money and clout, so they want to act like they care
exactly what i was thinking too
@@jtb357why ask in the first place then? just say "good to see u again" or smth along those lines
This dude showed his true colors here. I'm convinced that he asked her where she had been because she wasn't able to donate to him while she was away.
100%. it’s awful 😭😭
Genuinely disgusting
the fact that she felt like she was in the wrong and apologized breaks my fucking heart
she obviously didnt think she was wrong. she made a sappy tweet trying to garner even more sympathy than she would have. think about it, she didnt think she was in the wrong enough to not tweet it. you must be new to twitch drama.
im not saying hes in the right, im saying that she definitely knew what she was doing by tweeting that
@@jahterminatedlmao5473 shut up
@@jahterminatedlmao5473 you’re weird Lmao
@@victoria-cp4ui she wouldnt have put "i know im in the wrong" on a PUBLIC tweet literally linking the clip where she was supposedly "in the wrong" if she actually thought she was in the wrong. i know how twitter works, not everything should be taken at face value
good for her tho. she got some free clout out of this
This man literally just showed us why mental health is such a problem. "Don't say you're sad, just STFU and say I'm good"
Oh my god you're so right
I had a friend do this to me but he said “dude i aint your therapist” which hit hard cause i thought he was a friend since then i just roll with family no friends just other people
Correct me if i'm wrong, but i believe many if not all very social people are thinking in that way
@@asant90 I mean believe it or not he actually is trying to look out for you if you're telling him so much that that's the response he gives then you probably need a therapist doesn't sound like he said it the right way but you gotta talk to a therapist if you're trauma dumping that much
@@MrNegima10
Would it sound odd of he said he can't afford a therapist. Or even worse alot of people don't like talking to them cause alot of therapists are cold or even condescending.
Usually if u talk about ur feelings u wanna talk to people ur comfortable with.
She wasn’t trauma-dumping. She just answered his question, and all he had to do was give a small gesture of sympathy and move on. It's not that hard to be like, “sorry for your loss, glad you're here!”
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@@evaneibach Who gives a fuck it's just a RUclips comment.
@@Glossy_Mossy Apparently you care enough to try to fake an original thought lol
@@stevendemayo3631 I literally admitted it was copied, no onee cares that it's copied and why are you so madover a youtube comment
People who use the term “trauma dumping” should never expect anyone to open up to them. Because opening up and talking will just always be labeled as trauma dumping
he could have just said, "I'm sorry, hope you're doing well" and get on with the convo. instead, he rolled a 1 on charisma check and chose the worst dialogue he could have said.
Feel like his die was weighted the way his insight check was going.
Whatever meat rider
Whatever meat rider
The guy is having a meltdown because he was minorly inconvenienced by hearing about a viewer losing their mom... what a class act. 👏
Typical narcissist behavior.
@@brookelynnplanz1296 true. What a socially inept clown he is.
@@brookelynnplanz1296 narcissist, yes. but also a specific type of narc: the spoiled, whiny manbaby. One of the worst.
When you order keemstar from wish
@@randomchannel323 bro even wish keemstar is better than this guy
Losing a parent is one of the worst sorrows to go through in life. The fact he shamed her for giving a reasonable response on an awful experience is stupendously stupid.
EXACTLY! He made her situation seem less than it actually was, devaluing a human life that was precious to her. Truly disgusting stuff. Hope his career falls into a pit.
He was very rude and disgusting
Lol I still think it's sad saying this info to a huge bunch of strangers.
Odd attention shit
…I’ve lost both, one in my teens, the other after I retired. The loss and pain never really goes away….
@@dudeimgeorge how is it attention shit if the streamer asked that person? The streamer could've just said something like " oh I'm so sorry for the loss " period end of story. 🤦♂️
"Trauma dumping" has been a phrase so abused by streamers/youtubers as an excuse not to give an one-line sympathy because streamers/youtubers are too mentally weak to sympathize and handle someone else's tramau.
So true
@@jess17376 so you think the job of a therapist is just listen to a few sentences and give one line response? Do you think people pay therapist just to hear “oh, I am sorry for you”? If so, I guess chat is “treating the streamer as a therapist”. If not, think though what is the job of a therapist before dumping the standard phrase “treat sb like a therapist”.
The fact that these terms even exist is just so creepy. People are WAY too obsessed with the internet and people doing shit on cameras. People gaining fame and clout from playing shit in front of a camera 😂
That's because "BuH I'M Da PROTagoNIST... GIMMiE bITs!11!!"
I'm genuinely shocked that he reacted this way to a girl who just lost her mother... it's just DISGUSTING how little empathy this man has
It's fuckign shocking that he equates "my mom just passed away" to "my husband left me"...like, what? What?
@@DamienLavizzo him groaning and "ugh"ing really was infuriating to listen to.
He put more energy into his little temper tantrum than he would have if he just said “oh damn that sucks I’m so sorry I hope you’re okay”
It's literally easier to have no empathy and say just: "oh I'm sorry for your loss." In like 2 seconds then forget about it. He did literally everything wrong.
If I lose a parent, I wouldn't break it in front of thousands of people who have nothing to do with my personal life. I would keep it to myself and my close friends and relatives. Penguinz and others like him should stop virtue signalling on issues like this.
@@TheKomentor it was literally just an answer to his question. It's not virtue signalling to call some dickhole a dickhole
@@TheKomentor it's cool you'd choose not to talk about it. It's cool that she decided too talk about it when asked. Both of those are fine. His response wasn't
@@TheKomentor well not everyone thinks or act slike you, nor should they. He asked her a question and she replied honestly and bluntly. Seriously, not you also blaming the victim when all that man had to say was "damn that sucks, sorry for your loss" and move on.
very important rule: if you ask, prepare yourself for an answer
yeah it's stupid how he decided to shame one of his viewers for answering his question
the fact he gaslit her into believing she did anything wrong here in this situation is unbelievable. that’s just sad
What’s so insane is that instead of feeling bad for her, he feels bad for HIMSELF for having to hear about it. You think it’s hard to hear? Imagine how hard it is to go through something like that
this is my philosophy, glad someone else thinks this way too (:
This guy is a severe narcissist. Ahole...
As someone who had a parent pass away, this type of thing is traumatizing. A few months after my mom passed, someone (a customer) shamed me at work in a somewhat similar way, and I had to take my lunch break early, I was sobbing.
I'm glad the majority of the internet is on her side, and I hope that she makes it through this whole ordeal okay.
Man has a ''main protagonist'' sort of mentality or something. The fact that he thinks first about his feelings...
ngl ive had parent pass away and never would i trauma dump it onto a streamer 1 because its TMI and 2 because its literally a suicide pass where all the streamer can do is make a pitiful comment about you or everyone gets mad or they ignore you, but this guy handled the drama so poorly its insane. could have just said "i dont care i dont like negative donos" and anyone online getting mad is just being soy because he didnt wanna listen to trauma dump donos
He totally seems like the kind of guy that would abuse his wife and then make her feel like she was in the wrong for making him do it
People like that are sick, but you are right he fits the shoe.
That Fucker deserves some Favela Justice.
yah a male amber heard
@@kimmyfreak200 my cat stepped on a wasp
@@darken8090 kinda random but is the wasp okay?
As a suicidal person I can tell you that I felt like such a bother to people that I would say “I’m good” like he is telling people to say. So when I first attempted people were SHOOK to their core cause they had no idea. If I just talked about it in the first place I probably wouldn’t have gotten to that point. It takes two seconds for a person to feel heard with just a simple “I’m sorry I hope you feel better”
Stay strong man, I hope you're doing better
@@waffle3815 thank you! I’m doing a lot better in general. Still struggling a lot but I’m way better than the time I was referring to :)
@@Teddyhammy Glad to hear you're doing much better bud
I know exactly how you feel. For most of my life I thought my suicidal ideation and mental illnesses were stupid, exaggerated, and a burden to other people.
Little did I know that telling someone about it after years of letting it fester would leave me in the hospital 4 different times...
Unempathetic, heartless, selfish, horrible people like him are the reason people are scared to speak out. We don't deserve that. ❤❤
@@Lynnie2005remember suicide doesn’t end the pain in moves it, honestly I’ve been there 2005 I’m guessing you’re very young, I strongly believe in a few years you will look back on this with a fondness ( i know that’s not a word) but you will look back on it almost proud you got through it trust me on this life is beautiful keep going keep churning the days out work on yourself build deeper connections with those around you, you’ve got this I know you have.
The man who raised me, not my blood, gave me one really great piece of advice. If you aren't willing to hear any possible answer for a question you're asking, don't ask it
He doesn’t tolerate drama, but makes it into the biggest deal ever
Fr he really could have just moved on instead of going off on her
He doesn't want to bum the stream out, but will absolutely make an apology video live on stream, and then spend the entire next day talking about it again.
@@rtiq270 the... audacity of some people is way beyond acceptable, I hope his career just ends
Thinking that someone else's mom dying is _"drama"_ is even more ridiculous.
@@joeyjojos5839 Exactly, if he had just ignored the comment, if it was that big of a deal, he could've avoided this situation entirely.
hearing someone's mom passed away and that is his first response... I refuse to believe that he is a human being
Why should he care?
@@halogod0298 he cared to ask in the first place
@@halogod0298 he doesn’t have to care. Hell he didn’t even have to read her response. What he didn’t have to do was lecture her on “stream etiquette” and have a tantrum on how her response to his question dampened his mood when HER mom passed away
@@halogod0298 It's as simple as don't ask a question you don't want the answer to
@@halogod0298 Bc he asked and bc it's basic human decency. Death plagues us all, the least someone could do is be empathetic to something we all experience. Or at least ignore what she said and not be rude...
all he had to say was “i’m sorry that happened, my condolences. i hope you and your family will be comforted and heal… ANYWAY!” and i feel like that would have been fine
True I mean he could just say I'm sorry for Ur loss and move on you are so true
I Hope she sees this knowing that we’re all on her side. He asked “Hey where you been?” And she answered it honestly and in a simplistic way to not make it about her or made it upsetting.
Glad some one pointed that out
She definitely wasn’t “trauma dumping.” If she’s a regular in a 55 average viewer stream then I can absolutely see why she’d feel comfortable enough to say, “my mom died” instead of “something horrible happened!”
The fact that this guy was so angry at her and has “strict rules” against sharing bad news is very telling.
not wanting attention seeking idiots in your chat is "very telling" i swear
@@joer2237 Any successful streamer would've been able to avoid drama here, easily. The fact that he's gone so far off the rails for being told he's wrong just shows he's not cut out to be one anyways.
@@joer2237 Is it really attention seeking if HE asked? Like she just said exactly what happened. If you ask someone where they been/how they are don't always expect good news. If you only want good news then don't ask. He coulda said "oh hey nice to see you again we missed you" instead of asking where she'd been.
Exactly. He is so delusional. Him saying she could have Had a simpler response, so could he have. So trifling he is
@@joer2237 it's not considered attention seeking when it's in the chat of an irrelevant nobody "streamer" lmao
"Don't be vulnerable because it inconveniences other people."
This is 100% of why people have mental health issues.
This is a textbook example of toxic masculinity
@@vinccool96 yes and the best way to avoid getting angry, irrationally is to fully embrace and control your masculinity. This is the example of a man who’s been forced to suppress his masculinity, so it explodes out without his control when he’s in an uncomfortable situation. Masculinity is toxic when the person cannot control themselves.
@@vinccool96 what does masculinity have to do with it? That's 100% humanity thing, not just a one half of it thing
@@vinccool96 This isn't toxic masculinity, this is just being insensitive and being overall, well, toxic
@@jennanone1878 @Xenomoth @EmeNova355 Toxic masculinity is not a toxic male. Toxic masculinity is the toxic stereotype that men should always be strong, harsh, never show their feelings, and all those craps that are toxic to a man's self-esteem and mental health, because you think you're not a "real man" when you show compassion, or show your emotions. That self pressure can often lead to increased psychological problems in men such as depression, increased stress, aggressiveness, and substance use disorders.
as somebody who HAS been treated like a therapist in my personal life, there is a MASSIVE GULF between that toxic behavior and just sharing one's feelings and life news (i.e. normal human social behavior). to be clear, what this person did was the latter. the streamer freaked out and basically said don't have emotions or be a human in front of me I can't handle it. what an absolute goofball
"Where have you been!?"
"No, I said hi, how are you?"
She didn't ruin the vibe on his stream, HE DID. Any reasonable person can control the tone of their response to recover from a deflating or akward moment by BEING HUMAN and moving on - instead he just had a meltdown because he is clearly so low vibration and so weak-willed that any outside influence can destabilize him.
He was the one focusing so much on the bad news
"he is clearly so low vibration and so weak-willed that any outside influence can destabilize him"
THAT PART. Maybe he needs more filtering of his chat if he can't handle this without it being so upsetting to him. He had every opportunity to handle this like an adult.
Exactly, it’s not that hard to move on anyone can do it. Just say I’m sorry to hear that but glad to see you back, hope it gets better etc.
Seriously. How can someone be so uptight? Just say "Sorry for your loss, hope your doing better now." and move on.
frrrr! you've got to be one weak person for trauma dumping to make you act like asshole
I feel so bad for her, I couldn’t imagine losing a parent and then getting yelled at by one of your favorite streamers.
and this is why some people commit suicide and they cant handle anything anymore
@@thecoolestcat5078 because of what a twitch streamer thinks? That's a sad existence
I love u
@@Brad-lt2re u missed the point
I lost a parent, and if this happened to me during that time I'd be so inconsolable
If this is how he treats his supporters imagine how he treats his partner
So she's experiencing one of the hardest things to go through, losing a parent and his response is to shame her? What a sick person.
He sounds narcissistic
Especially after he ASKED her.
@Patrick39 Who?
Losing not loosing
@@DrPonner wrong context
Fucking disgusting dude this made me genuinely mad like wtf..... I hope she's mentally well and finds someone to talk to that can genuinely help
What really sucks is that she really lost a parent and he’s trying to lecture her just for answering the question. Dude went on a whole rant against her all while knowing that she is suffering.
Yeah he’s str8 🗑
"We still have more rooms in mental hospital, y'know...?
There's one right there in the corner specifically for streamer."
Bruh he may have literally destroyed her mental life
@@lawdadz4332 huh
@@lawdadz4332 oh shit i thought you were saying "yeah hes straight" and thats trash lmao my bad
The funny part is, he totally killed his own vibe with his response. If he’d just gone “aw I’m really sorry” etc then moved on it would have been fine
Exactly lol 😂 he became the vibe killer
Yeah, he made a full rant on something that could have been a simple offer of sympathy to a known person in his community.
He should've said some positive words and moved on smh
Literally, he could have said something on the lines of 'sorry for your loss I hope you feel better soon'
@@waitingpatiently You either die the hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villian 🤣
Literally who is this guy , he needs to be humbled
WeFoundTheBody is his twitch name, you know what to do.
this guy at entering a funeral: "thanks for inviting me to this big bucket of bummer"
“Where you been?”
“Honestly, my mom died and it’s been hard.”
“Oh shoot man, I’m sorry to hear that. Well, we’re glad to have you back, hopefully we can raise those spirits with this stream! Let’s go guys, Ws in the chat for DirtyKirby for pushing through while I get through this menu screen.”
That’s how easy it could’ve been.
Exactly.
Psst. Her user is MissNerdyCurvy. Just a heads up.
Yes
I was gonna say something exactly like this and I completely agree. This is how he should have handled it, especially that person being a regular in his community is wild
Didn’t even have to he that long, just offer condolences and wish them well then move on. Talk about killing your own career though 😂
The worst part is, is if you look at the chat they're all shaming her and agreeing with the streamer as well. Like, there's zero support for her.
most twitch viewers are 14 year olds who blindly agree with anything the streamer does, because they feel they have no other place in life so they think submitting 8 hours out of their day to someone who doesn't care about their existence is somehow going to fix their issues
@@anomaly3215 I feel like that's most people I encounter on a game or in social media nowadays. They find it funny to just say the most horrific stuff as a "joke" and they don't realize digital footprint could screw them over for that.
@@user-uo5jx7sg6h Eh, streamer =/= audience all the time, I've seen plenty of audiences turn on the streamer/creator because of something they did/said.
Tbh i hate trauma dump too but he should just never ask the question imo.
@@eloisecole3579 Eh, it's a basic question, it's not trauma dumping, she just said what happened, not telling every little detail
“Hey, Ms. NerdyCurvy, y’know what we’re NOT gonna do?! Show a human emotion besides mindless happiness. Cuz that is a MMMAAJOR bummer!”
the fact that his chat is mostly on his side is nuts
He shamed her so much to the point where she actually feels like she's in the wrong. Jesus Christ, how pathetic.
gaslighting 101
she's also stupid for this
I remember when my grandma's dog died and I was sad but I feel better now.
Is the streamer here to destroy me yet?
this is like "don't have a heart attack near me it totally ruins the vibe"
"Oh your mom died? I'm so sorry to hear that dude, let's hope we can get some good vibes going this stream to cheer you up"
This situation could have been completely avoided with that sentence.
As a former partnered streamer this pisses me off. The fact that she came to HIS stream after something so tragic... She went into the stream with hopes of being cheered up and got shitted on about her mom passing. Dude is a P.O.S for that.
Totally agree!
shut up
Nah facts bro she didn’t deserve that
Exactly this. Dude couldn't even take a second to think about the fact that on potentially the worst day of her life she chose his stream to lift her spirits and he fucking raked her over the coals. What a fucking dipshit
@@chasecrosson5059 Yeah. She really deserves some condolence.
The fact that she thinks she's "in the wrong a little" for being honest about what happened is bonkers. Girl, no you're not. You answered a question that he asked honestly. I feel so bad for her feeling like she did something wrong because she didn't in any way
Ratio + k-pop better + mbappe better than haaland 🤳🏼👶🏻👦🏻🤓🤓🤓
i genuinely feel bad foe her too like he could have just said im sorry to hear that not make it a deal
Public gaslighting a fan is one helluva horrible thing to do, this dude should be ashamed
Yo touch grass
You have to guess the die hard fanboys of the streamer are coming to his defense. Plus Twitter is magnet for people who have the worst takes in really clear situations
Now we're policing 'trauma-dumping' to the point that people can't act human. No feelings, no depth, you can only act happy and engage in shallow small-talk.
The fact that he says its creating a negative stigma when his reaction caused a much more negative stigma than if he just gave condolences 😢
I got a (non cancerous) tumor taken out of my back and i couldnt sleep, so i picked a random streamer and watched them late at night. I mentioned what had happened, and the dude told his chat to give me love. The chat stream flooded with hearts and well-wishes. It was one of the sweetest things anyone had ever done for me. It was maybe one of three total times I was on Twitch, but I subbed to the dude just for that act alone.
It was pretty baller.
And this is how it should be not necessarily more, but definitely not less. Hope you're doing well now
Aww. Hope you are doing ok now
That my friend is the potential power of a good community.
nice
Massive W
True story. I had a friend on Facebook I didn’t know that well. We got along fine, but she wasn’t a close friend. One night I received a message from her on Facebook. Her husband had been killed in an accident and she knew I was often online late, so, in desperation, she sent me a message. At first I was, “Phek, who’s texting me now?” And, “I’ll get rid of them fast.” Then I read the message and knew humanity has to come first. I have many flaws, but this wasn’t one of them. I ended talking to her every night as she cried. I listened, and tried to be supportive, but I knew just being there was what she really needed. About a year later I was making a silly post about always wanting a cherry sunburst Les Paul. A few people were talking about things they always wanted but didn’t get. About a weeks later I got a large package in the mail. It was a Cherry sunburst Gibson Les Paul worth a few grand with a note thanking me for being there.
In short? Though virtue is it’s own reward,,,, a new Les Paul doesn’t hoit. Be good for goodness sake,,, and sometimes it even has unique rewards.
Peace,,,,
That’s a cool story and you’re a legend for helping her ❤
We need more people like you in the world
Charlie. It’s so refreshing to see a massive youtuber as down to earth as you. Keep rocking man. Love your stuff.
All he had to say was “I’m really sorry that happened I hope you’re okay” and resumed with the stream this is actually sad.
Sorry that you got spammed with bots, man
@@HappyH00ves fr this whole comment section is filled with them
Ratio + k-pop better + mbappe better than haaland 🤳🏼👶🏻👦🏻🤓🤓🤓
He's too lost in the streamer grind to have basic human empathy
@@paint4850 RUclips knows, they don't care.
the fact he considers someone saying about 10 words as trauma dumping is insane. this girl didn’t come in explaining every single detail, asking people to help her, or expecting something more. she just explained. it takes NOTHING to be kind. i cant imagine the hurt and loss she is feeling, and to get aggressive and loud with a girl who just lost her mother is so cold and gross of him. literally lack of common sense or empathy.
Exactly! A lack of common sense and empathy. He's so dumb.
Yeah, it reinforces to others: Don't express your feelings on a basic level. Where were you? Uhh, grieving to be honest. Oh...STOP BEING NEGATIVE.
So much disconnection.
@@liamfinlay2039 I think it also shows just how much he really cares about his community. When it comes to individuals, that is.
seriously i hate that "trauma dumping" is a term now. Sure sometimes people overshare and it can be uncomfortable, but if you're really not in the place to listen just tell them normally. Now we apparently have a term that everyone will misuse and shame normal people for not being happy 24/7 and having normal conversations about their life.
@@violetbitch9492 I've said this since i saw the word first used. It feels so... Toxicly happy. I know it's hard sometimes to have someone vented to you when you aren't really in the space to help them but even a little "I'm so sorry, I hope you feel better soon." Is MILESSSS better than getting mad at someone for 'trauma dumping"
He could've just as well said "oh I'm sorry to hear that glad to have you back" or "oh that sucks hope this helps you feel better" or something
“Damn that’s crazy… alright back to the stream”
Easy, career salvaged
“Where have you been?” = “where’s the donations been?”
Bingo!
FACTS
“I don’t wanna ruin the vibe”
Also him: completely ruins the vibe by making a huge deal about it and yelling and bitching.
quite literally a man child
I don't normally comment on RUclips videos, and I know this happened awhile ago, but I had to comment. I often get people come into my streams sharing unfortunate and sometimes devastating news. They will often apologise for 'bringing the mood down' or something to that effect, and I always tell them to never apologise and to always share. Fact of the matter is, livestreams are communities built up from people. People have good and bad experiences in life, and they may not have someone or somewhere that they can share difficult news. I like to think that my livestreams can offer people a safe space to share things with other people who care and wanna reassure them. It's really sad to see this, and I hope this streamer can be more empathetic in the future. Honestly, sometimes offering people a space to do that can save their lives, and at the end of the day, we should all really be looking out for eachother.
i rarely watch streams, but that is a very good way of putting. Thanks for being a normal human being with empathy instead of shaming people for expressing their situations.
“I had to read the words ‘my mother died’ and that ruined my entire day, my life is so hard, I’m going through a lot right now… oh your mother died? That’s just a minor inconvenience, and nobody cares. Somebody told me their mother died, I’m going through a lot worse right now. I’m the victim. Not you. Me.”
That poor person who was such a loyal fan and got shamed for being HONEST when he asked a question... I can't imagine how much that hurt.
Especially considering it was her moment of vulnerability. She put herself out there assuming he expected honesty and was immediately excoriated.
It's sad but at very least I hope that open the eyes of the decent people supporting him. All his words basically meant I don't give a bull shit about any of you guys.
she went in that stream for support and getting her mind of the traumatic event, just to be shamed and make fun of...how sad
i dont expect streamers to genuinely care that some faceless name's mother died but he went above and beyond to humiliate her. just unnecessary af i dont get it lmao
Yeah it’s so sad. Like it would feel like losing a friend if a streamer I liked did this to me. It shatters your personal view you’ve had of this person for a long time.
This streamer isn't just a tool, he's an entire shed
Yet the shed is stable, mans just a measly splinter. Sharp and annoying af
He’s a good streamer though. People make mistakes. Get over it bruh 😂😂
@@balldip nah bro better not watch his stream Fick him bro
The whole home depot
I was expecting him to be rude, but his actual words were beyond the pale. Mans a whole bucket of c**ts.
As awful as the situation was, props to her for staying calm throughout this. Absolutely awful that she feels in the wrong (she is not), but when I went through something similar and if someone talked to me like that, I would've gone ape mode. No mercy would be shown and I would never be quiet about it for months. No one deserves to be talked to like that.
This is horrible. Imagine having the most traumatic experience if your life and finally opening up to the community you think will be supportive and getting shamed
His chat rules are ‘Be positive - Be welcoming - Be considerate - Be good looking’ and he’s failed to follow every single one of them
Always “positive” people being mega-assholes is a tale as old as time.
"Rules for thee, but not for me"
"be good looking" ...where do these people come from?
Always be douchen
"Be good looking"
Ah yes. Allow me to objectify you in every possible way, because you are here for MY benefit, not the other way around.
This dude SUCKS and i cannot believe people pay him for the burden of his company. lmao
He just had to say “I’m so sorry for your loss, hope you’re doing okay. We’re all glad to see you join us on stream today, you’re always welcome here”. Simple, empathetic, keeps the mood light.
even ignoring it would’ve been fine but the asshole embarrassed her so much??
Even from a purely, totally selfish "what will help me the most" view that response would've been the right one. "Oh, look how good a guy he is, I can spare $5-10 to send his way". He literally said the worst possible thing from both a basic empathy and basic self-serving perspective.
I would think that after being a streamer for any real amount of time, this would be the automatic response... Him saying it's a big bummer indicates (to me) that he's had some vibe killing experiences with similar things in the past... This should have been a practice swing with the ball on a tee, and he somehow managed to assault the umpire with a bat.
Exactly!!
His responses are *highly* disturbing....
That would need him to have empathy in the first place
this pisses me off because when I was 8 years old my father had passed away, it was one of the toughest times of my life and to see someone belittled for having a similar experience and sharing it is just terrible.
Stumbled on this video again and decided to check his channel out again cause I was curious how it's going for him.
He happened to be only and still has around 50 viewers (which is already more than I expected, guess people are pretty braindead to keep watching such a clown).
Funniest thing tho was when I clicked into his chat and a message popped up before I was allowed to chat, highlighting his only chat rule: "No trauma dumping" LMAO
A fool never learns from his mistakes
What's his channel?
This is the perfect example of toxic positivity. Gotta love those who are *aggressive* about their chill. Nothing more chill than berating someone after they give a real response, and then pretending you didn't. This is douche bro behaviour to the extreme, except even some of the frattiest people will just be like "sorry you have to go through that." Just... what a terrible human being. The sheer lack of empathy and decency is astounding.
I have to agree ngl, I don't like saying people are 'terrible' over a single act like this.. But I've truly never seen something like that before 😂
Lol that's exactly it. The people who get so aggressive and defensive the moment you start talking about something real instead of just "chill vibez" are an absolute enigma
can we stop with the stupid tik tok terms jesus, tf is "toxic positivity" lmfao no its just an example of a dude being an asshole and trying to cultivate a cult like community, thats all there is to it.
" toxic positivity" Did you just make that up? Cause I've literally never heard anyone in my entire life or anyone on the internet ever use that term. Ok I googled the term, "Toxic positivity or positive toxicity is dysfunctional emotional management without the full acknowledgment of negative emotions, particularly anger and sadness." So I get it now, so now back off people.
Yeah man super well said. But a terrible thing to think about - this guy might be a rolemodel to some ppl (as crazy as it sounds)
"I'm just subtly trying to tell you" has some real "Dumbledore asked calmly" energy
HARRY DIDYOUPUTYERNAMEINTOTHEGOBLETOFFIRE
4:52 for anyone wondering
"HARRY DID YOU JUST TELL ME ABOUT YOUR MOTHER'S DEATH" Dumbledore asked calmly...
It really does omfg 😭
@@andreasawsome1 Never gets old lmfao
Im sorry but anyone who has ever knowingly or unknowingly uttered a sentence similar to „aw dude stop ruining the vibes with your trauma“ really doesn’t deserve to have people close to them .
The fact that she's even donated bits to this guy and is an active viewer to get shamed like that in front of the community is crazy to me. A simple I'm sorry for your loss was all he needed to say but he flipped the switch
I'm not very Twitch fluent, but I think you pay real money for bits, meaning that she's donated actual money to this guy on top of being a fan! And he STILL shames her!? And you're exactly right, a simple 'sorry for your loss' would've been more than enough!
@@Xw3dn3sd4yX Yeah Bits are real money. It's sad (now that is) that she's donated so much money to him just to get hurt by him.
@@GenderedMess It really is. And like, not to get too meta here, but we (being the stream watching community) shouldn't have to "vet" the streamers we watch before investing the emotions that come with being a fan! Plus, again, she lost a parent. I feel like nearly anyone would feel compassion or sympathy here... Let alone a streamer interacting with one of their mainstays.
how would someone genuinely feel empathy for another online? literally no reason to fake apologize to some attention seeker in twitch chat. x2
@@joer2237 her mom literally died have some common sense
I can’t believe his first instinct was to shame her
Some streamers start to get steady viewers and think they’re gods
@@Blonderellas yes. egotistical
Narcissist
Don't share personal information to a stranger then🤡
@@jerrybantamos9618 *Don’t share personal information to strangers then -🤡
dude. mad respect. you always keep it so real.
Imagine experiencing one of the worst things you could possibly experience and then when you try to distract yourself a little bit by watching your favorite streamer just to be lambasted for answering his question
The fact that he is berating her for "bringing down the stream's vibe" when he's the one that went on a whole rant and tangent for quite a while on stream is astonishing. The lack of self awareness and entitlement some people have is just unbelievable. Poor girl all she wanted is to have some fun watching one of her favorite streamers to distract herself and all she got was getting shamed and gaslit on live by the person she enjoyed watching.
For real. If anything he brought the vibe WAYYY down
Imagine berating someone for 3 minutes after them answering a question YOU asked them and then saying that THEY brought "the vibe" down
Exactly!! He was the 1 who brought down the Energy of his stream by ranting like a cry baby
All he had to say was "Oh shit, I'm so sorry about that. I hope your ok." and then they would've moved on in seconds. So avoidable. I guess he didn't have much to lose tho.
Oh boy… I disagree with what you’re saying. He was a jerk about it but she shouldn’t drop that shit in a twitch public chat.
She was ridiculed and ignored so quickly for having the fortitude to disclose the tragedy, and they even gaslighted her into believing that she was at fault for responding honestly to a question that she didn't have to answer. That ridiculous reaction says a lot about this streamer as a "person," to put it mildly.
So true. And the fact that she took a „hiatus“ from watching him but is normally a known member in his comunity and therefor probably enjoys whatching him somehow tells me that she returned to his livestream and the chat for some sort of „comfort“ or to distract herself a little and then gets met with such an incredibly rude, discusting response by this stupid motherfucker probably caused her a lot of pain and if not pain then she definitely still felt worse than before. I feel really sorry for her. Losing a parent must be one of the greatest losses a person can endure and it wouldnt have been hard for him to at least respond somewhat empathetic and be like „im so sorry for your loss i wish you all the strength you need in those hard times and i hope that i can at least distract you a little and bring you a little joy.“ Instead of fucking lecturing her like shes a kid or some shit its honestly so disrespectful and i hope she stopped watching this dude matter of fact someone like that shouldnt even have viewers in the first place imo. Sorry for spelling mistakes and bad english im not a native speaker and sorry for the long text have a blessed one to everybody that reads this and to everybody going through rough times just know that there are amazing people around you that love you and got your back and will give you the strength you need 🙏❤️
And the fact that she said she knows she was a little wrong... This poor freakin girl...
Ughhh God, what an absolute twat.
The fact that some people consider just saying how you’ve been is trauma dumping unless it’s good, Makes me terrifying to say anything about anything.
Man. That was so bad of him to do
I’m a super regular viewer in sweatcicle and demonJoe
When I was off for a bit and let them know I was in the hospital for 3 months
Not only was the streamer worried about me, but the whole chat was also super supportive towards me
If any streamer that I’m regular on spoke to me like this, I would be heartbroken bc I only follow those who give good vibes and i enjoy watching particularly on those days I’m super down and depressed
I’m just thankful the people I watch and follow are good people and don’t belittle me for my life struggles or my personality (I tend to be the clown of the group to lighten things up and send out bits on twitch to show appreciation)
I'm more concerned by his community in his chat not calling him out. Imagine having so many brainless yes men that won't keep you accountable.
Anyone who actively spends their time watching a streamer is a brainlet already.
Right? I’d say “wow, that was a vile, inhumane overreaction” and then leave and never watch his stream again
@@BabyBear046 Cool choker on ur neck, daddy issue?
I've followed a streamer once, I was a loosely an active viewer (not massively, but enough to be part of the 'in-group') and I saw them be a real ass to someone and I called them out for it, they got super defensive and it felt like a total mask-slip moment. Ended up silently unfollowing them and never showed up again. Seems I wasn't the only one because I recall hearing their view numbers plummeted in the following weeks.
It really surprises me that other folk aren't the same and will offer blind loyalty to the point where they'll even join in on the whole asshole behaviour.
What streamer was he? At least tell me how many viewers he had. Please
Her apologizing about his response makes me feel so bad because he acted completely out of proportion. My heart goes out to her and my dear condolences for her loss.
I wanna tickle 🤗 that guy's booty maybe that will put him in a better mindset not to do that stuff to people in his stream anymore
@Durgle She is not an idiot. He was the one that put her on the spot and humiliated her and she initially felt bad like she had something to apologize for. She was trying to de-escalate and I bet it didn't help that the people in chat were defending him. I feel so bad for her.
@Durgle she’s not an idiot, she’s a bit of a doormat but that doesn’t make her dumb…
@Durgle he literally was publicly degrading her for answering a question in a way he didn't like while people were hopping on his bandwagon against her 💀 i think a lot of people would feel a bit bad or shamed in the first place even if they know later they were 100% right. im sure she just wanted it to stop 💀
@Durgle an*
8:29 “…griddy…”
- Charles White 2022
one of my favorite streamers used to just say something along the lines of “aw man im sorry to hear that, hopefully i can give you a place to forget some of that real world stuff and have a good time for a while” and it honestly made the vibes so much better than keeping the heavy stuff out, just acknowledge and move on quick it’s so simple
He killed the vibe far more himself than if he just gave a normal response like "I'm sorry that happened hope the stream is able to take your mind off it"
You are absolutely correct. Why are there so many fucked up people in this world?
he tied the vibe to an anchor and threw that shit in the marianas trench
He's obviously delusional, no one would say anything like this in front of other people. Really disgraceful shit.
I don't think an excavator could have done more damage to the vibes than he did
@@stmsin this sounds exactly like what Charlie would say
And then he proceeds to compare someone's mom dying to a dog dying, getting divorced, and losing your house. It sounds like he's never even loved someone so much to imagine for one second losing them.
Yeah. My dog died a few months ago,.and I was super sad. Still get a little emotional when I think about him.
But I couldn't even imagine losing one of my parents
Yes, I think so too
Yeah
you can get a new dog, partner, or house. you cant get new parents
I cried when my dog died, because of course I did. I love him. But even thinking too much about my parents dying causes me to cry just as much if not more than I did when my dog died. Either this dude had some crappy parents or he’s a completely insensitive piece of crap. Or he just sucks at dealing with the fact that people have to go through horrible stuff sometimes and that those people need to talk about it in order to remain emotionally and mentally stable.
(Side note my parents are doing fine that’s why I specified thinking about it because while it’s always possible at least it’s not likely when it comes to health)
Man didn’t even realize he was the one ruining the stream vibes by throwing a hissy fit over someone else’s traumatic experience. Some people lack so much self awareness.
I don't think I have ever seen a guy with absolutely 0 respect for people in a mourning process.
Imagine how annoyed he would’ve been if she had lost BOTH parents.
Lol
"Bro, I Can't believe you'd say that, now you're bringing down everyone in chat who isn't parentless... Why would you do that bro!"
He probably would've complained she didn't spread that trauma out over time
😆💀
The audacity she must have to lose BOTH parents.
All he had to say was "oh my gosh I'm so sorry, glad to see you back and hope you're doing ok" 💀
This video came up automatically and it pisses me off just as much as it did when I first watched this video.
I get not wanting to deal with heavy stuff in chat all the time, but what sort of vile person just sits there and guilts and shames someone for briefly mentioning a parent passing. HE ASKED THE QUESTION. Where have you been? He’s addressing someone who seems to be normally an active member of his relatively small community, a person whose absence was obviously noticed. Did he not consider the possibility that the response he’d get might be, at the very least, somewhat negative? The absolute least he could’ve done was show her a measure of sympathy for the LOSS OF A PARENT and leaving it at that. Content creators tend to be someone’s small escape of reality, and even a comfort to people going through hard time. He could’ve taken that opportunity to show her support and comfort just at that moment without needing to be excessive or anything like that.
The way he says she was arguing with him by saying 'I just answered your question' reminds me of when a teacher is obviously in the wrong and wants to paint the student in as bad a light as possible so they resort to turning everything the student says into something spiteful and disrespectful even if the kid is making complete and total sense.
Stop you're gonna get me heated thinking about that 😂
Damn this dug up some memories. I was lucky that the students understood me and were on my side
sounds like youve actually experienced this, care to elaborate what did happen if you feel comfortable enough to share?
@@7XHARDER Wow, can’t even breath without being shamed in 2022
bruhhh that unearthed some deep memories i never wanted to remember lol
It absolutely breaks my heart that the person who just list her mother in her tweet is saying "I know I'm also in the wrong a little". Mi corazón, you are not in the wrong AT ALL. I desperately hope she can understand that and that this guy is just the worst type of monster
You had me until “worst type of monster.” Is he a douchebag? Of course. Don’t over exaggerate stuff, it discredits the good points you make
@@ToddSnow what?! Stfu u made no sense. The point she made still stands, regardless of how u feel about that word. Idiots! I tell u
@@BabyBeeGaming the irony of calling someone an idiot while typing like an enraged 4 year old. Or fat feminist rather. 💀
@@ToddSnow he truly is the worst kind of monster. I don't know why you would assume otherwise. The man is a sociopath
@-Random- I just had my grandmother die and mutiple people had asked where I was, I just told them I had a family tragedy and moved on.
Being like
Yeah my gma is dead
Would definitely have killed the vibe for a lot of people it could've been word better 💯. That being said, he's still a hole , not providing any sort of comfort it's terrible. Even just saying sorry for your loss and moving on it's good
when something heavy is dropped in the chat of a stream i watch, the stream is empathic but wont let it drag stream down
my Mom passed away when I was 15. In reaction to the news, a lot of people acted like how this streamer did
I think it is out of fear and anxiety. A lot of people don't know how to respond to heavy news like that because they can't even fathom how it must feel. And better yet, their worst fear is to have something like that happen to them, and my presence alone is a constant reminder that bad things happen and it happens randomly and suddenly.
I’m sorry, but I would’ve told every last person who told you that to f*ck off. You deserve empathy, and trust me, as someone who is very prone to offering maybe a little too much of it to the wrong people, there is no reason to say they’re “killing” the vibes. No d*ckweed, you’re killing the vibes because you couldn’t keep your narcissistic ass mouth shut.
I know sometimes it never fully goes away but I really hope you’re doing a lot better.
He literally could’ve read her response and said “damn I’m sorry, that’s rough. Glad you’re here to hang out with us now” and moved on. If he had a closer relationship with this community member he could’ve said for her to dm him or reached out to her on discord, but if not he could’ve at least done the bare minimum and said I hope we can take your mind off it of for a little or something. What he said was so horrible, gaslighting her and the whole chat by accusing her of trauma dumping unprovoked.
That response would give huge "That's terrible! Anyway..." vibes. Pretending to empathize while dismissing the news ain't much better.
@@KainRazielMT better than what he did
@@Spookatz. theres literally no good way to respond to something so heavy in that setting. it feels parasocial to tell a streamer something really deep and personal and expect them to give a caring response in the middle of a stream essentially meant to be a hangout session...
@@coriander2760 he asked for it, and she answered truthfully. Dont you make it like she just jumped in the middle of the stream and dropped a bombshell like that.
@@monologistical he didnt ask for a trauma dump
This reminds me of a stream Etika did where a chat member jokingly said in a donation that his mom died. Etika went on a 20 minute talk about how awful of a thing it is for someone’s mom to die and trying to comfort him before realizing it was a joke. Etika was Fr the goat
RIP ETIKA
I miss him more every day :(
"her last words were subway subs are only 11 inches" i remember, that shit had me rolling
I remember that stream. Even though the donation was a joke you can hear that Etika cared for that person.
@@pip4349 I never saw it but this comment got me rolling
What a lovely display of empathy....
"I'm just subtly trying to tell you" after several minutes of flipping out
The fact she thought she was partially in the wrong for saying her mother died is so sad.
Like no, you aren't, you literally just lost the person who created you and took care of you, that pain is unfathomable, allowing one comment to slip out and allude to that insurmountable pain is ok.
great comment… loosing a parent or a child is like no other pain imaginable
i hope she knows she’s not in the wrong at all.
The guy is 100% an abuser, his immediate reaction is narcissistic and manipulation for taking the spot light off him for a micro second. This dude has absolutely hit women and said the phrase "why did you make me hit you?"
Dude I get what you mean but I’m not gonna go on someone else’s public steam and say my mom died. It’s farming for attention and sympathy.
he asked her a question, then she answered thruthfully. like thats what he asked for lol