Hope you all enjoyed the video, make sure to check out the original vod here ruclips.net/video/7uRcZN7OIv4/видео.html&ab_channel=RESPRiT Also don't forget about part 2 vs Fox and episodes vs Marth/Falco/Falcon/Sheik/Puff can be found here if you wanna learn more about Melee metafy.gg/series/peach-deconstructed?msp=Armada
I think the best thing about melee is that it’s such hard game to play consistently for an entire tournament, tier lists can only help you so much. Whichever player is playing the best that set is probably going to win.
The thing is that tournament wins with Fox are disproportional to the size of the player base. Fox really hasn't won as many tournament as you would expect given how many fox mains there are. I think in the last five years or so there have been more wins by Marth and Puff, and even before that he lagged behind. I wouldn't say Puff is better than Fox, I think hbox is just wildly good at the game, but I think it's not unreasonable to say Marth might be the best.
@@Thomas-nz4si I think Zain is just making people think that. Look at every other Marth. I still think Fox’s tool set is the best, not meta knight in brawl level, but I don’t think it’s unreasonable to have Fox in his own tier, as long as it’s stated that that doesn’t mean he’s the only amazing character
ty for making video armada. i just started playing kirby in ssbm and u've always been the coolest person in the community imho. id love a kirby video!!!!
Yo I’m not even a fan of calling Armada the Goat, I do believe mango is the goat of the game BUT EVERYONE wants to write something mean about him making content for melee, we are in some pretty bad times for melee currently I appreciate Armada making post and content about melee bc it is very good for the SCENE Stop being a hater and embrace anyone that helps melee Be thankful not a hater Thanks Armada, keep up the hard work and keep pushing out content, melee lovers will always click.
@@TsunamiSurfaceWash The last time he was asked about over 2 years ago while he was playing Cody he said he didn't think the meta changed that much. This somehow got a huge reaction out of Mango and Leffen, they basically turned the community on Armada over nothing. I doubt Armada even wants to say anything about Melee's current state/how it's changed given how sensitive and insane the community is about this. As for if it's changed much. Not really, Amsa has been winning stuff for the first times in years, hbox is doing well despite doing mostly content. There's no reason to think Cody/Zain are better than Armada at his peak. It's also not important, but for some reason a very big deal for the community. In soccer, no one cares if Messi and Ronaldo are better than Cruyff or Pele. The comparison is not relevant, we just care that they are really good and the best of the current gen. It's a silly obsession that makes the community look petty imo
@@TsunamiSurfaceWash Btw Armada was still beating basically everyone when he was at one of the summits after his retirement. I'm not sure how long this was after his retirement but it does show he's still got it, and the change isn't that big. But again, it's not important. If anything I find it more disrespectful to suggest Armada is so quickly surpassed
Dont mind the haters Armada your experience grants a far better perspective on the game then any of those commenters. As a long time melee viewer I love you still throw your 5 cents into the game. - Australia
"Maybe I shouldn't laugh at that." Nah, you're good. Hungrybox laughs at it too. He even showed a clip of it almost happening to someone at a tournament and rolled through exactly what happened to him and how it's happening to that guy.
You most certainly CAN win with peach in the modern era. Tier lists are absolutes. Everybody said the same thing about Yoshi, and Samus, and Falcon, etc etc.
Fox and Marth in my opinion are the only 2 SS. I've never seen anyone make a tier list like that but that's what I feel in my heart. Falco, Sheik, Puff, Falcon would be A and so forth.
I mean yeah he doesn't enter anymore but he still plays the game every now and then according to a twitlonger he posted. He still has alot of knowledge about the game and he watches top level games and knows how to analyze them
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Hope you all enjoyed the video, make sure to check out the original vod here ruclips.net/video/7uRcZN7OIv4/видео.html&ab_channel=RESPRiT
Also don't forget about part 2 vs Fox and episodes vs Marth/Falco/Falcon/Sheik/Puff can be found here if you wanna learn more about Melee metafy.gg/series/peach-deconstructed?msp=Armada
Thanks for making more smash content goat
Thanks for watching, I'm glad we got to see your perspective on things!
I think the best thing about melee is that it’s such hard game to play consistently for an entire tournament, tier lists can only help you so much. Whichever player is playing the best that set is probably going to win.
Melee Fox is something else entirely.
Having an Melee competition era named after a single character is very impressive.
can't believe he was so good they named a real life animal after him
@@ILiekFishesSo good they went back to the N64 and made 2 games about it
The thing is that tournament wins with Fox are disproportional to the size of the player base. Fox really hasn't won as many tournament as you would expect given how many fox mains there are. I think in the last five years or so there have been more wins by Marth and Puff, and even before that he lagged behind. I wouldn't say Puff is better than Fox, I think hbox is just wildly good at the game, but I think it's not unreasonable to say Marth might be the best.
@@Thomas-nz4si I think Zain is just making people think that. Look at every other Marth. I still think Fox’s tool set is the best, not meta knight in brawl level, but I don’t think it’s unreasonable to have Fox in his own tier, as long as it’s stated that that doesn’t mean he’s the only amazing character
ty for making video armada. i just started playing kirby in ssbm and u've always been the coolest person in the community imho. id love a kirby video!!!!
Thanks for shining light on this, gotta give the original a watch as well! btw I think the credits in the description link to the wrong video
that's the name of the video
Yo I’m not even a fan of calling Armada the Goat, I do believe mango is the goat of the game
BUT
EVERYONE wants to write something mean about him making content for melee, we are in some pretty bad times for melee currently
I appreciate Armada making post and content about melee bc it is very good for the SCENE
Stop being a hater and embrace anyone that helps melee
Be thankful not a hater
Thanks Armada, keep up the hard work and keep pushing out content, melee lovers will always click.
Based on statistics/results, Armada is unquestionably the goat. Whether or not you are "a fan of that" won't change that
@@TsunamiSurfaceWash The last time he was asked about over 2 years ago while he was playing Cody he said he didn't think the meta changed that much. This somehow got a huge reaction out of Mango and Leffen, they basically turned the community on Armada over nothing. I doubt Armada even wants to say anything about Melee's current state/how it's changed given how sensitive and insane the community is about this.
As for if it's changed much. Not really, Amsa has been winning stuff for the first times in years, hbox is doing well despite doing mostly content. There's no reason to think Cody/Zain are better than Armada at his peak. It's also not important, but for some reason a very big deal for the community. In soccer, no one cares if Messi and Ronaldo are better than Cruyff or Pele. The comparison is not relevant, we just care that they are really good and the best of the current gen. It's a silly obsession that makes the community look petty imo
@@TsunamiSurfaceWash Btw Armada was still beating basically everyone when he was at one of the summits after his retirement. I'm not sure how long this was after his retirement but it does show he's still got it, and the change isn't that big. But again, it's not important. If anything I find it more disrespectful to suggest Armada is so quickly surpassed
23:08 talking about Peach
Thanks Armada youre my GOAT 4ever
Dont mind the haters Armada your experience grants a far better perspective on the game then any of those commenters. As a long time melee viewer I love you still throw your 5 cents into the game. - Australia
"Maybe I shouldn't laugh at that."
Nah, you're good. Hungrybox laughs at it too. He even showed a clip of it almost happening to someone at a tournament and rolled through exactly what happened to him and how it's happening to that guy.
I think Sheik hate is part of the reason she hasn't had a lot of representation generally, and it might have affected her rankings
Fine by me. Me and my homies hate sheik
@@zjmullanwhy
@@peeron6829she dominates noobs and all the mid tier characters extremely hard.
Keep doing what you like 👍
Cave story music immediately makes me like this video.
brüdder
br'ew'der?
I like tier lists.
You linked the wrong video in the description
Love me some Aramda reacts hope to get more PauseChamp
Important to remember you can’t win with Peach in the modern day, but I do like seeing the history of the game
You most certainly CAN win with peach in the modern era. Tier lists are absolutes. Everybody said the same thing about Yoshi, and Samus, and Falcon, etc etc.
It’s a shame that Ice Climber doesn’t have anyone winning right now
All I know is that Roy is still ranked too low
I agree armada
Fox and Marth in my opinion are the only 2 SS. I've never seen anyone make a tier list like that but that's what I feel in my heart. Falco, Sheik, Puff, Falcon would be A and so forth.
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Fox is the best
hope you can coach trif and comeback to the US events as a coach/commentator
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this guy sure knows how to milk a game he retired from for years after
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I mean yeah he would get washed now a days.
Armada may have retired from tournaments, but he still loves the game and I think it's understandable for him to talk about so much.
what have you ever accomplished? Armada is one of the goats, and you have 104 subscribers. 😂
I mean yeah he doesn't enter anymore but he still plays the game every now and then according to a twitlonger he posted. He still has alot of knowledge about the game and he watches top level games and knows how to analyze them