2:13:26 addict most people were in ultimate anyway. It’s been called the best deal in gaming for years if you not in that’s on you. Gamepass ultimates value for the console player came from the fact you got both console game pass and Xbox live gold while literally saving money. Console gamepass and good were both $10 a month gamepass ultimate was $15. Again if you didn’t see that and didn’t join that on you
The best value in gaming that nobody wants.... Stagnant growth numbers for game pass. Clearly not everyone cares for the best value, they care for the quality, something which is evidently not there was game pass .
Stop defending them man, most console players don't care about cloud & PC gamepass l. Why are they being forced to pay $20 while same deal on PC is $12. It should bother every console player
@@Ciki92 PC has different circumstances in their ecosystem like they don’t pay for online. Console and PC are different therefore different prices. PC games aren’t $70 either. That’s a problem beyond Microsoft and they’re not alone it in.
@@neilcognito I can see how that’d upset people but that just comes with the territory. At least they let you keep your service. When Sony did the psnow to ps plus merger they gave Psnow members to Ps plus premium until they ran out and was forced to pay the new price to get those benefits
So what did they previously have In gp that kept you this long. There is a hell of a variety in gp, it's not that it's not worth it, just say it's no longer affordable.
People are blaming Game Pass for people not buying games, but it’s free to play games that have stopped people from buying games. 4 people I know in real life who play games only play Fortnite, if they try another game it has to be free to play and I’ve twisted there arm twice in 4 years to sub to game pass for a month or two for a game to play together. They think spending money to play a game is a waste of money and they don’t need to do it anymore.
$30 is my limit for ultimate but the value gotta be right. You gotta get GTA, all sports games, EA play, Ubisoft and as many third party games as possible.
Game Pass Console means no online play. So you need console pluse live/core for online play unless you only go online with F2P games. No matter how you cut it it was better to be on ultimate if you played games online. Also, I'm about tried of people talking like live was just to play online. Our friends list, team/party chat, LFG, Community Events, messaging, etc... It's not just online access. Should it be free? Maybe, but it all works. I don't need to set up multiple programs to get things going. Steam has the benefit of scale so they can afford all the perks the provide. They have a virtual monopoly in PC gaming with a Tesla esque cult like following. they have potential userbase numbering in the hundreds of millions, active daily users numbering in the tens of millions, and over 100 million active monthly users. Just wanted to put that out there.
You can play Black Ops 6 early on Gamepass. I was on PC Gamepass and converted back to Ultimate because of Cloud gaming and to get every game Gamepass offers. My son has got into gaming and I still have my One S he uses for Cloud gaming because it visually looks better through the cloud than natively from the One S. Addict has had one too many bad takes for my taste. Can't stay subbed to his channel if I don't like the content ✌️
Addict getting so emotional about this change, but then when questioned on why he still has gamepass? he gets upset. It was a legit question, based on your extreme reaction to the change
@@asianfury519 Nothing about the money is idealistic. If you want to pay more and be treated worse than PC crowd, be my guest. Me? I don’t eat shit and I’m not planning to start.
It shows they don’t have a lot of confidence in their console gaining new users with the games they have coming. Or Microsoft is sick of waiting and just wants everything everywhere to make that $$$ Ultimate is gonna be 22.95 for me a month and I’m thinking $25 would be my limit. If it went higher I might cancel for slow months and resign up for months with games I want to play on the service. Half the games I currently play I buy.
Gamepass standard is essentially equal to PlayStation plus extra. Gamepass ultimate is the same just priced at $20. Anybody outraged better not be on PlayStation neither
@@thepews1511 quality over quantity. Plus PlayStation offers things in its subscription that’s literally free on Xbox, live cloud saves and backwards compatibility
Appreciate the passion from Addict. Its never personal. Both sides had good points. Even though im a Frontline solider i still protect the mustard hearts lol
King was cooking this week. He said it perfect. If 20 bucks is too much for you then you may have wrong hobby. 20 bucks is a quarter tank of gas. Also wanted to say how awesome the fire stick app is. Didn't think much of it until I had a couple homies who have been Playstation for years and years all of sudden showing up to the party this past weekend. Xbox went Bobby wit the digital and got the W on this one for sure. All praises Lords
King said it right though. You had years to get your act together but now you cry? You were never gonna be about it so why act like you were going to in the first place?
LOL this is such a dumb mindset. Xbox is trying to attract new people. That's their #1 problem. People shitting on people that are criticizing their prices right now are missing the point lol. Talking shit isn't going to attract people to the brand. They didn't feel like it was worth it before the price changes and they're probably not going to be feel like it's worth the price now after the changes. No one is going to spend $200-$500 to buy an xbox console to sub to gamepass for COD. The console players that play COD on console aren't going to buy a PC to sub to gamepass to play COD either. Where are the new subscribers going to come from? You guys simply do not get it.
@@EpicScreenReviews I don't think you get it. Xbox is on Fire Stick now. Xbox is on your phone now. Xbox is on your TV now. They don't have to buy a $500 console when they can just sub for $20. Thats how they attract new people. If $20 for CoD isn't enough to entice you to play then all the other things aren't going to do it and never were. The $1 conversion wouldn't do it. The Day 1 games didn't do it. The Zenimax games didn't do it. The massive 3rd party games didn't do it. The exclusives didn't do it. It's just like I said. You were never gonna be about it so why act like it? So why try to pretend to be outraged? King is right.
@@EpicScreenReviews we talk shit to disprove the misinformation being said about the brand. Value is what will draw people in and that’s been Xbox’s mission and you’ll see the fruits of it
"Game pass the best place to play Spider-Man.." Must be hard over on the green side being constantly bitter and not being able to play Spider-Man, you do you boo ☺️🤗🤡
Someone tell me if I'm wrong: I did some research a while back. Last reported Xbox Live numbers I found via google was around 12 million subscribers, that was before Live was folded into Game Pass. Phil Spencer said during the business update that Game Pass was around 34 million subs. In 2022 it was reported that Xbox Game Pass had 25 million subs. If you add 25 million Game Pass subs + 12 million Xbox live subs that equals 37 million subs. So somewhere along the way they've lost 3 million subs if Xbox is still at 34 million subs now.
They gained me I joined recently after not knowing cloud gaming even existed and I’m loving it Just want them to get they weight up to GeForce NOW level
@@playafly131 I love my Series X. I game on it all the time. I created a new gamertag when I got my Series X at launch and I've already achieved a gamescore of over 170,000 in less than 4 years lol.
Making GamePass a way less enticing deal for on-boarding new console players is an interesting strategy. MS wants to grow their sub service and make money back on their multi-billion investments. So they make it a way less enticing deal for new console players coming in. Now why tf would any new member with a brain want to be paying 9$ more for the same shit existing members get?
Cog - so you cancelling?
Addict - huhh
Cog got emmm 😂😂😂😂😂
He got mad after that 😂 how you get mad when the man asking a valid question?
@@NewsanceInHDfr addict got hella mad. All cog was tryna do was show that it’s still a good enough deal to stay subbed and addict got very mad 😂😂😂
2:25:21 There it started 🤣🤣
The first 30 minutes was a constant fight between Addict and King😂😂😂
You guys are the greatest🎉😊
😂😂😂😂 he's a rat 😆 🤣 😂 😹
2:13:26 addict most people were in ultimate anyway. It’s been called the best deal in gaming for years if you not in that’s on you. Gamepass ultimates value for the console player came from the fact you got both console game pass and Xbox live gold while literally saving money. Console gamepass and good were both $10 a month gamepass ultimate was $15. Again if you didn’t see that and didn’t join that on you
The best value in gaming that nobody wants....
Stagnant growth numbers for game pass. Clearly not everyone cares for the best value, they care for the quality, something which is evidently not there was game pass .
I agree with Addict for the fact that, if you miss one payment you're stuck paying for standard or move up to $20
Stop defending them man, most console players don't care about cloud & PC gamepass l. Why are they being forced to pay $20 while same deal on PC is $12. It should bother every console player
@@Ciki92 PC has different circumstances in their ecosystem like they don’t pay for online. Console and PC are different therefore different prices. PC games aren’t $70 either. That’s a problem beyond Microsoft and they’re not alone it in.
@@neilcognito I can see how that’d upset people but that just comes with the territory. At least they let you keep your service. When Sony did the psnow to ps plus merger they gave Psnow members to Ps plus premium until they ran out and was forced to pay the new price to get those benefits
Was the King-Addict beef legit or for the show? I’m confused 😂
Legitimately for the show. Think grumpy old men.
I'm a gamepass subscriber since its early days and now I think that console gamepass isn't worth it.
So what did they previously have In gp that kept you this long. There is a hell of a variety in gp, it's not that it's not worth it, just say it's no longer affordable.
“You wearing a wire right now!”
People are blaming Game Pass for people not buying games, but it’s free to play games that have stopped people from buying games.
4 people I know in real life who play games only play Fortnite, if they try another game it has to be free to play and I’ve twisted there arm twice in 4 years to sub to game pass for a month or two for a game to play together.
They think spending money to play a game is a waste of money and they don’t need to do it anymore.
PC gets the “cheaper” deal cuz there’s no pay for online play. Console gamepass has the more games
Pc gamepass has 472 games plus a few more on ea play that do not show up in the xbox app.
@@dagreatberich1070in regards to EA that’s in them not Xbox. And gamepass has the same amount of games. But it wasn’t always like that
@@dagreatberich1070 yes and the console has more.
ILP after dark getting crazy at the end
$30 is my limit for ultimate but the value gotta be right. You gotta get GTA, all sports games, EA play, Ubisoft and as many third party games as possible.
Game Pass Console means no online play. So you need console pluse live/core for online play unless you only go online with F2P games.
No matter how you cut it it was better to be on ultimate if you played games online.
Also, I'm about tried of people talking like live was just to play online.
Our friends list, team/party chat, LFG, Community Events, messaging, etc...
It's not just online access.
Should it be free? Maybe, but it all works. I don't need to set up multiple programs to get things going.
Steam has the benefit of scale so they can afford all the perks the provide.
They have a virtual monopoly in PC gaming with a Tesla esque cult like following. they have potential userbase numbering in the hundreds of millions, active daily users numbering in the tens of millions, and over 100 million active monthly users.
Just wanted to put that out there.
You can play Black Ops 6 early on Gamepass.
I was on PC Gamepass and converted back to Ultimate because of Cloud gaming and to get every game Gamepass offers. My son has got into gaming and I still have my One S he uses for Cloud gaming because it visually looks better through the cloud than natively from the One S.
Addict has had one too many bad takes for my taste. Can't stay subbed to his channel if I don't like the content ✌️
Addict getting so emotional about this change, but then when questioned on why he still has gamepass? he gets upset. It was a legit question, based on your extreme reaction to the change
$20 is my limit!
2:59:09 I do feel cog on this one
People act like Microsoft is forcing you to get Game Pass. If you don’t want it then just buy your games and stfu!
Addict delivers consumers’ voice again. Bravo 👏
The immature, idealistic consumer's voice. Sometimes you just have to be realistic.
@@asianfury519 Nothing about the money is idealistic. If you want to pay more and be treated worse than PC crowd, be my guest. Me? I don’t eat shit and I’m not planning to start.
VIVA GAME PASS!!!
Buck up needs to be on every show
3:01:25 facts and that’s ok. Also long as prices are not too high and the value is there. Ultimate has that.
PlayStation took away my ability to pay $10 for ps now. Why’s nobody on my side?
YOOO KING CHILL FFS😂
Thanks for entertaining me on my road trip ❤❤
🎉🎉🎉
Addict was extra sensitive today.
It's 2024 Addict! You just finding out that PC is the master race?
It shows they don’t have a lot of confidence in their console gaining new users with the games they have coming.
Or Microsoft is sick of waiting and just wants everything everywhere to make that $$$
Ultimate is gonna be 22.95 for me a month and I’m thinking $25 would be my limit. If it went higher I might cancel for slow months and resign up for months with games I want to play on the service.
Half the games I currently play I buy.
Pc haves free online that is biggest reason why pc Gamepass is cheaper
Gamepass standard is essentially equal to PlayStation plus extra. Gamepass ultimate is the same just priced at $20. Anybody outraged better not be on PlayStation neither
It's more expensive and has less games. PS+ Extra also gets some day 1s standard will get none. Just the facts.
@@thepews1511 quality over quantity. Plus PlayStation offers things in its subscription that’s literally free on Xbox, live cloud saves and backwards compatibility
I have around 300 days of playtime in the latest cod😅😅
Xbox will do everything except fix their PC launcher
IM STILL WAITING
king listen to new eminem album he start off disrespecting 😂😂😂😂
Appreciate the passion from Addict. Its never personal. Both sides had good points. Even though im a Frontline solider i still protect the mustard hearts lol
2:32:40 PlayStation Console players are still the priority 👑 Xbox Console players second class again.
Y’all are sad 😂
Priority? THEY HAVE NO GAAAAMES! 😆
@@longlivetheblackmamba2-8-24 what tier of Gamepass you got ?
@@thepews1511 ultimate. Best deal in gaming 💯
If you were the priority you would be getting all games first
King was cooking this week. He said it perfect. If 20 bucks is too much for you then you may have wrong hobby. 20 bucks is a quarter tank of gas. Also wanted to say how awesome the fire stick app is. Didn't think much of it until I had a couple homies who have been Playstation for years and years all of sudden showing up to the party this past weekend. Xbox went Bobby wit the digital and got the W on this one for sure. All praises Lords
THANKS
Thanks addict for standin on business.
King said it right though. You had years to get your act together but now you cry? You were never gonna be about it so why act like you were going to in the first place?
Facts
LOL this is such a dumb mindset. Xbox is trying to attract new people. That's their #1 problem. People shitting on people that are criticizing their prices right now are missing the point lol. Talking shit isn't going to attract people to the brand. They didn't feel like it was worth it before the price changes and they're probably not going to be feel like it's worth the price now after the changes. No one is going to spend $200-$500 to buy an xbox console to sub to gamepass for COD. The console players that play COD on console aren't going to buy a PC to sub to gamepass to play COD either. Where are the new subscribers going to come from? You guys simply do not get it.
@@EpicScreenReviews I don't think you get it. Xbox is on Fire Stick now. Xbox is on your phone now. Xbox is on your TV now. They don't have to buy a $500 console when they can just sub for $20. Thats how they attract new people. If $20 for CoD isn't enough to entice you to play then all the other things aren't going to do it and never were. The $1 conversion wouldn't do it. The Day 1 games didn't do it. The Zenimax games didn't do it. The massive 3rd party games didn't do it. The exclusives didn't do it.
It's just like I said. You were never gonna be about it so why act like it? So why try to pretend to be outraged? King is right.
@@EpicScreenReviews we talk shit to disprove the misinformation being said about the brand. Value is what will draw people in and that’s been Xbox’s mission and you’ll see the fruits of it
@@aldenhayes914 FACTS!
Hellblade 3 will launch on the same day as Half-Life 3 and Kojima’s next Meal Gear.
And hifi rush 2.
@@FlameLOGNET And Redfall offline.
@frankkent5567 well, that actually happened lol
@@FlameLOGNET Oh, that’s funny. 😂
Where faction frank?
"Game pass the best place to play Spider-Man.."
Must be hard over on the green side being constantly bitter and not being able to play Spider-Man, you do you boo ☺️🤗🤡
Addict is right, microsoft spitting in the face of console users. We are 2nd class citizens to them.
Someone tell me if I'm wrong:
I did some research a while back. Last reported Xbox Live numbers I found via google was around 12 million subscribers, that was before Live was folded into Game Pass.
Phil Spencer said during the business update that Game Pass was around 34 million subs.
In 2022 it was reported that Xbox Game Pass had 25 million subs.
If you add 25 million Game Pass subs + 12 million Xbox live subs that equals 37 million subs.
So somewhere along the way they've lost 3 million subs if Xbox is still at 34 million subs now.
They gained me
I joined recently after not knowing cloud gaming even existed and I’m loving it
Just want them to get they weight up to GeForce NOW level
@@playafly131 I love my Series X. I game on it all the time. I created a new gamertag when I got my Series X at launch and I've already achieved a gamescore of over 170,000 in less than 4 years lol.
Making GamePass a way less enticing deal for on-boarding new console players is an interesting strategy. MS wants to grow their sub service and make money back on their multi-billion investments. So they make it a way less enticing deal for new console players coming in. Now why tf would any new member with a brain want to be paying 9$ more for the same shit existing members get?
That’s not how it works
@@liamflan9553 yes it is how it works.
Remember. Xbox is #1
Is it? According to who? Evidently not gamers as it's last place in every single regard LMAO 😂
Remember to sit down
Playstation has no games tho 😢
Xbox has no sales tho 😢
@JR-cm1yb xbox has sales, games, and etc.... but Playstation has no games tho 😢
@@teddy_P the fanboy delusion is strong with you, keep it going it’s suitably cringe.
@@teddy_P keep smoking that crack i see is doing wonders for your critical thinking skills
@vincevirtua and yet there's no delusions about Playstation has no games tho 😢
This comment section is a cult. Xbox fans are the magas of the gaming world lol