Building the Perfect Human
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- Building the Perfect Human
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As our technology advances, we're getting closer and closer to being able to make significant changes to human genetics. What are the consequences we should be aware of, and is it worth it?
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@@SecondThought Unfortunately your scenario @1:55 was entirely incorrect. This is because in the example, there were no modifications performed at all despite saying several times they were. The naturally best were selected - this is not a modification of any kind
3:03 “what would the perfect human look like”
Shows picture of Nicolas cage
I agree
No with his long face and hair
Big props to 3:06 for demonstrating the meaning of understatement.
“Building the perfect human”
Um excuse me I’m right here
Billy K the you from a parallel universe doesn't count
DoHickey oh... crap
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ruclips.net/video/0dtzfu9RpTs/видео.html
hmmmmm
"let's make it *less* narcissistic..."
imperfection is what i see as perfection
Well, I absolutely love the idea of genetic engineering, I think it's the next step to evolution *but* it should be available to everyone, primarily to treat genetic disorders and prevent diseases. Also I know there would be sooo many people against it, doing protest, especially religious people.
Adrian Gutz I'm not religious but I'm uncomfortable with the idea being used for anything other than editing out serious, life limiting/life threatening diseases. Otherwise it will just be the next step in eugenics and will create further societal divides.
Jim I'll let the inevitable generation of intellectually superior transhumans decide if it's the right path. Nothing we can do to stop it now.
But I can't imagine better people being a bad thing... no one is advocating extermination.
Jim So am I, I'm scared it would divide us even more, now the difference between humans won't be just ideology and culture, but also physical and there would be no doubt discrimination to the "inferior" humans
I’m against it because some kids might not be as modified and be sad or maybe even suicidal
When we talk about the perfect human, we search to edit out all that makes us morally wrong, but does anyone have an idea of the results?
The link below will show you the causes of building this perfect human and the effects it will have on us and the world.
ruclips.net/video/idgYLTnSzxI/видео.html
Now when _I_ think of genetic engineering, I envision something that gives the grown child who is... "only" 6'1" the ability to reach 6'4" if it's what _he_ wants. Take the parents out of the equation, because it's not really their decision to _make._ I envision the ability to modify _existing_ genetic strains.
yes that it exectly what I would want. I mean fuck my child. ok it would be cool if he/she would be gentic engineered to be vastly superior to me but what do I have from that ?
A peacefull mind that someone else will have all that fun in his/her life?
I want to change my genes !
That's waaaaay beyond anything we have ever even considered plausible. You would have to do so much more than just modify one or two cells. You would literally have to redesign the DNA of every single cell in your body for which he have not even come close to doing. The reason why genetic engineering is possible is because we can "filter" out unfertilized eggs that don't have the desired gene combination. However, our ability modify the DNA of an egg to a significant extent is not quite satisfactory but we're very close.
I should also point out that even if you did somehow redesign every piece of DNA in your body to make you 6'4'' you would have very abnormal growths and probably die because your body has a bunch of useless flesh where your neck or spine should be and that useless flesh would include your brain lol. Of course, in the very very very far future things will be very different and it might become plausible then but that's so far away that even your grandchildren will probably die before something like that becomes possible.
That would be a perfect scenario if we could GM adults, but we can't. At least for now. And, taking into account how much cells there's in human body and that most of them vary slightly in their genetic code (I've read some study that cells in our body's don't have exactly same genome, but I could be wrong on this one), I don't think we'll ever (or at least in foreseeable future) be able to modify genes beyond zygote.
Yes. I realize that the concept I am describing is not feasible in the _near_ future. The concept being described in the video is _not_ "genetic engineering." It is "selective breeding," and when we begin to apply selective breeding to human beings, it is unquestionably, eugenics.
Now a brief examination of 20th-century history shortly brings one face to face with the kinds of horrors that arise when human beings dare to venture into _that_ territory.
So that which I conceptualize as "genetic engineering" may have _technical_ prohibitions, but that which I conceptualize as "selective breeding" has _ethical_ prohibitions.
Saying genetic modification is the same as eugenics is like saying sacrficing people for a good harvest is the same as using fertilizer
I don't think the genetic gap between wealthy and poor will last.
The price of genetic sequencing has dropped so dramatically that it can only be compared to computers.
The first sequenced human gene cost $3billion. Now it costs ~1,000$.
It will not be reserved for the rich for the same reason computers weren't.
But regulation though
@@fivesquaredyt2521 wb it
I can tell that the kid who glows in the dark will have a truly bright future ahead of them.
Glow in the dark?
Yeah, great Idea, why not make glow in the dark sperm :D
That would be dope!
+Hean Stone XD
3:18 if this is available today i`d probably have the same idea of that guy :)
Joseph frg geneticists can already modify the genes of mice to make them glow under a blacklight
Whatever has massive money behind it, it will happen.
If youtube existed in 1796 someone would've made a video about the dangers of the smallpox vaccine and the ethical challenges it faces
There are RUclips videos today about the dangers of smallpox vaccines too.
What is this argument.
There are videos today about the dangers of anythings
Jahfar Al-Huseini
Well, pretty much anything can be dangerous if you want it to be. People were just stupiderer / less enlightened before.
"stupiderer"
6'1
Blond
Blue eyes
150 IQ
Handsome face / Athletic
Thats litterly me.
Iiiiiiiif I was born in 2060
LovingMe Genetic engineering will make us anike character s
LovingMe maybe that will be you
In 2060 if you're still alive
Alejandro Zarzuelo im 59 then haha
>6'1
Lmao manlet
lol mood
It's like from the movie Gattaca.
Mi that's the first thing that popped in my head
Mi Same. Definitely a good movie and quite thought-provoking. I watched that during the end of the academic year in my high school biology class.
+HerebyOrdinary Damn, I just did that 4 days ago. Small world I guess.
gooS That's pretty cool.
I imagine a sad movie where a kid sees other richer kids showing of to their friends and he goes home and cries. Then his parents are like, “We’re sorry son but you know we don’t have much money, we can hardly pay rent... we just wanted you to have a good life.” 😭
10 seconds in
“ a faster metabolism “
Anything * says while snacking*
But how many Toyota Corollas would the perfect human own? ... wait a minute...
I'm dead 🤣🤣🤣
"So we agree, glow in the dark baby." XD that had me ded
The problem with us humans is that whenever we get a big idea, the first thing we think about is “How can we make money out of it.” All the rest comes second.
I personally believe that we should use genetic engineering to cure every syndromes or diseases caused by genes, but we should use it just to enhance our own traits to be “the perfect human”.
If you perfect a human, is it a human anymore? No one is perfect. That's what makes us human.
I am ok with being "inhuman" :P
The striving to make life different, and easier, is what makes us human. Inheriting diabetes from your family has nothing to do with your humanity, just your health.
Perfect Human, yep it's a oxymoron.
Perfectly imprefect bitch
Well you could argue that a human with an IQ of 140 is "more perfect" or "better" than a human with an IQ of 100, and where all their other features are exactly the same. But then a same human with an IQ of 150 is even more perfect, and 160 even more etc. You can increase this till infinity, and infinite IQ is impossible, therefore perfect as in "the very best" doesn't exist.
Regardless, a human with 0 genetic deficiencies, 0 diseases, the most attractive body, the fastest reaction speed, the highest intelligence, the best memory etc. would be perfect in our eyes. These are not subjective properties, as possessing a lesser degree of any of these properties will definitely not make you more perfect.
Als, imo saying "imperfect is the best kind of perfect" is an emotional statement not based on actual metrics. Nobody is saying that a human who has better properties than another human has also more right to live or is "worth more", or elitist nonsense like that. We should also be honest with ourselves and admit that some people are just smarter, stronger or faster than us, and there's nothing wrong with that.
What I think should happen is a whole human genetic upgrade as well as the ability to remove diseases before birth. If every human alive got the same genetic modifications such as improved eyesight, more intelligence, etc. that would remove the inherent inequality associated with making individual modifications to certain people.
Imagine.. a world full of geniuses( to the degree that We’ve never met a genius from another planet) that would be epic
I support genetic engineering. It should be made a necessity to prevent disease. No child deserves to be born with a disease that is out of their control. I would want my child to have the happiest life possible.
1:31 that cow is actually such an enderman from minecraft, wow.
I kind of preferred the old intro, but its up to you.
Keep up the amazing work!
meanwhile ,i'll tell a joke
me
Genetic engineering creates problems. However, having a select few with desirable genes breed, then have the rest of the world adopt, can solve a lot of problems. I've been told there's a book something like this but I forget what it's called.
We all are perfect the way we are.
Except John Wick, he's better than perfect.
Yes! EXACTLY.
Genetic engineering should be done as a species, with all of us being modified to be better, but in the same generalised way, as to stay one species, whilst still improving. This would keep equality and improve us.
The way rich (and the greedy) mentality works this might be not as easy as we might think, its been 3 years and people are still worried that the rich will either make a monopoly out of gene editing or just be able to affort everything they want...
There would be a way though... using Crispr/Cas9 and Gene Drive, you could design a set of enhancements and spread it using a Virus. That way you could bypass the cost of individual modification and also do it without having to debate reactionary idiots thinking that any amount of ethical qualms will stop rich people from modifying their children. Seriously though, this will come and no law will stop it. We will either have a select few with the connections and money to do it and deny everybody else from a fair competition, or we piss some religious folks off and establish long-term genetic equality (only talking about quantifiable traits like intelligence and strength here, no one wants billions of identical twins). The only problem is to find a geneticist willing to be the Ass who pushes the button. A real Lelouch if you will.
I completely agree with your idea. It’s the only way to improve humanity while maintaining a semblance of equality
Wow, that's new... I've only talked about this with a few people, but their reactions ranged from doubt to disgust. You're the first one to agree in any way, let alone fully. Thanks!
This sounds horrible. Ether you are modified against your will or you choose to not be modified but there for are inferior at handling certain tasks. And if you want to extend in the direction that seems meaningful to you, you are prohibited. Wth
I honestly lost it at the Adobe letter, I can't explain why, I just found it absolutely hilarious! Another brilliant video, cheers!
3:20lol we already have 2 genius doing the perfect human
Whenever we fully master genetic editing nobody will be left by the wayside. At that moment true 'suffering' will be over and 'abundance' will begin.
If you are afraid that the powerful will grab and run with it, we will be almost powerless to stop them.
So it's either abundance for everybody, or all out war. With the latter being an unlikely scenario, because the principles of genetic editing are already publicly known. And these hypothetical future techniques will probably be a new iteration of these techniques.
What's the matter with eugenics? Why shouldn't we strive for perfection?
Very nice subject I really enjoyed it.
There is no clear difference between removing a negative, and adding a positive. Making a baby smarter could be seen as adding intelligence, or removing unintelligence. Making a baby immune to cancer could be seen as removing cancer, or adding health.
Just think of the military applications...
humanity is diversity.
0:43 But she's also half bison 😂
That whould mean that we'll be not longer humans but products. I don't want to live in such a world.
Jimatul Kerriganus all it means is that people will be improved...dont like your genes? Go get better ones...thats it nothing more or less...if it's job security you are worried about well robots are about to take all jobs in a little over 15 years I think so that's not an issue either...I would like to hear your concerns
I'm not sure why a mix of haves and have nots is worse than a world full of have nots. Wealthy people getting something nice for their kids, that most cant afford. Ideally all would have it, but some is better than none. And if having a few enhanced humans around gives us a chance to solve (major problem here) then its a good thing.
I was literally thinking about this exact concept last night while in bed. *Next Day* Second Thought uploads a video on it...
I'm in your head >:)
5:14 I prefer the lamp
I fear for the future.
but hey, the first generation of super heroes could be born
LightDarkEquivalent 714 That's true, and that could be true, but what happens if this technology gets way out of hand?
Yurn Like how? The only negative is the increasing of the development gap in the world. But that's the case for every new technology. It will probably be expensive, but slowly more will have access.
Me to...
yeah me too im only 17 and about to live in a world full of shit(there are many good things dont get me wrong) with these idiots like trump putin and every fucking politician on the doorway of WW3 and in the dining room of the cold war and the other idiots executing people and suiciding on the streets and the feminist type of shit also the 3rd gender thing aaa the flat EARTHERS (almost forgot) 21 century really isnt all that great also the problem discussed in the video
I actually prefer the cow. He's so cute as always.
"Building the perfect human"
Or you can just clone *me*
personally, the limit should be removing all the bad stuff, having adding good stuff only available is a futuristic sci-fi dystopia waiting to happen
Dude, you are honestly the most interesting youtuber to watch. You are up there with pewdiepie and thoughty2 as my favourite content creators. Huge thumbs up for you my man, keep being great!
The problem remains, if all humans are gentically identical or partially genetically identical, they can become more vurnable in case they lack biodiversity
great video! I agree that eliminating diseases and all of that is definitely a good thing, yet when it comes to chossing aesthetics and traits of one's child it's really gone too far...
No.Just consider how hard and unjust life is to someone,who is "ugly".
And don't come up with the "beauty is subjective" crap.There certainly are characteristics that are considered ugly by almost everyone.Like having a not so clean skin,riddled with pimples on the face.Very big nose,for a girl.Asymmetric face,etc.
I definitely understand you but think about the people that are born in a world where many change their child's aesthetics and yet your parents chose to keep you away from that... so you have "unfair, aysmmetric traits" in a world where almost everyone is aesthetically perfect. Wouldn't that just make the whole superficial level even more extreme? I understand that "beauty is subjective" might be annoying to hear but maybe it's exactly that what makes us human - yes, it might make us (from a societal perspective) "ugly" but it's what makes us real and we all have to learn to accept our body, as awful as it might seem. At the end of the day we are given this precious life to live and be and not to worry about our slightly too big nose. fuck people who try to deteriorate others with different traits, bcs let me tell you: being normal is boring. :)
I see your point.If people will change traits of children.then the unchanged will be ugly in comparision.And even if you change the genes of adults,once a nose developed,the genes responsible for building it are already inactive.It won't "shrink" after the gene therapy,because the construction of that structure is already kind of finished.You will need tissue engineering for that,which requires surgery,not just injections that edit your genes.You need to remove tissue,and grow tissue,etc.Or maybe biomedical nanorobots will be able to move,shrink,modify or expand tissues thus making such surgeries non-invasive.Anyways the future promises a very rapidly growing technological trend,so who knows.
I don't think your objection is good enough to stop all progress in genetic trait editing,because at the end,it is inescapable that technology will be able to provide us with the bodies we desire once in the future.Where you could look how you want.And why wouldn't someone look how they want ?
András Kovács true stuff.. it's not what I think the future will look like but what I hope it will be.
What do you think about the future ?
Making my eyesight like those of Eagles is enough for me.
imagine scientists being able to put DNA with superhuman powers and then the first generation of superheroes are born
what if the first one born was one that could glow?
yes, I've recently been watching My Hero Academia
I believe to have future generations to adapt in a natural way such as exposing them to diseases without any form of treatment and overtime gain natural immunity and also giving out a survival of the fittest element while it may take many generations but safe at that
I believe we should use it but only on the terms that is is for eradicating health issues & disabilities or possibly for helping people survive on other planets when Humans finally are able to move off Earth.
If my parents had made me look like a greek god i would be thankful :O
Like many subjects there's a Stargate sg1 episode that kinda explores this, genetically modified clones launch a war against "breeders" as they called natural humans
could you make a video on why there are no atonomous trains?
Population of over 1 billion, China doesn't need genetic engineering to have the perfect athlete, shear odds alone.
Also many millionaires have already cloned themselves. I call them expensive babies, unless they have a specific fetish with raising a younger version of themselves or using them for spare parts. The technology to map the quadtrillions of possible synapses of a human brain doesn't exist, then there's the added complexity of each neuron having it's own DNA mutations which occurred randomly throughout the person's life influenced by literal thought excitation and environmental stimuli.
Point being, the technology's been around for sometime now, it just not economical and as some have found out, economically dumb.
What would I give to have perfect eye sight? Idk a few dollars, if I wanted to be able to see crap I’d buy glasses.
What would I give to have a faster metabolism? I mean since I’m not able to resist eating a bag of chips for 5 seconds probably not that much
What would I give to be a few inches taller? Nothing I think my height is fine.
What would I give to be a bit more muscular? Some unused dumbbells that I never bothered to use.
but imagine if it was possible to give dna a random superpower
and the first generation of superheroes are born?
k, gonna hide my delusional dreams again, sorry to bother you :/
+SylenDraws You rock, mate. I am a big fan of your line of thoughts. :)
Yeah tell all that to the BLIND FAT MIDGETS
+Presidential Winner THAT's precisely the point Sylendraws made.
Just because YOU deem them "Blind Fat Midgets" doesn't mean they see themselves as such... :)
LightDarkEquivalent 714 don't worry till Then people will have gadgets better than any modified gene
Just imagine, the upper class is not only wealthier but also genetically superior compared to the lower class. The only saving grace of the lower class would be the rare occasional good baby which the upper class can easily create.
If i edit my child's genes then it would not be my child genetically since her genes do not match mine. So think of when you make a designer baby your basically adopting a child who is not yours with just a +1 or a +10
im not againts it or anything but this is what i have to say about it
What I think will happen, is pretty much a summary of this video. What I hope will happen however, is awesome:
As the gene-editing technology becomes available to the rich, they should invest in it, making it automatically more available over time. While this will take a long time, they should modify people with a poor genepool, to create a better world for all. We can rid the world of many diseases and birth-defects this way, while making the technology more accessable to less wealthy people. Once this tech is more available, more people use it, making it more and more available. Eventually, all bad parts of the genepool of humanity will be ridded and humanity will flourish like never before.
But that's not going to happen. I think it will be more like what happened in Altered Carbon: The wealthy grow wealthier and stronger, while the poor become poorer and more and more people will have to live a terrible life. This saddens me.. Damnit humans.
Gattaca comes to mind when watching this vid.
So...this is basically Gundam Seed sceenario
designer baby sounds like a rapper born from the womb.
It would be nice to be able to have a child with no diseases that would effect them negatively, but I think mother nature can handle that, plus if it increases other deadly diseases that we may not even know about or decrease the babys chance of survival, I would pass on that opportunity.
To me, the line would be that if you want to edit out a disease or quality-of-life defect, like poor eyesight, you have to have the genes changed in *yourself*. Only. No editing eggs/sperm/zygotes/etc. Only in-situ editing of your own genes, before having kids, so that your "fixed" genes are passed on the normal way.
In the future, the line between natural, human and augmented, enhanced will be blurred.
This reminds me of a book called Uglies by Scott Westerfeld which plays around with this idea of genetic modification .
First of all, I don't understand why everyone thinks 6'4" is so great. It isn't a bad height, but in my opinion it is too tall. Most people I know that are 6'4" are really clumsy. I think average is just fine (5'7" to 6'2" for a fully developed male).
Secondly, there is no one perfect human. It is very subjective, just like my opinion on height above and also like Second Thought pointed out in the video.
Genetic engineering is essentially very precise positive eugenics. Regardless of how precise it is, it's a good thing for everyone.
The question is how do you deal with the rest of the population that can still reintroduce "lower quality traits" back into the gene pool. The only solution is negative eugenics which will probably lead to extermination.
lets make some super people and turn on that tail gene
I think this is the next step in our evolution
I believe we can overcome all odds and live for ever
The perfect human would be a mortal.
pug life is the best life 567 immortal*
if you think there is something like "perfection" in life you dont deserve do raise a kid
It is unethical to condemn a child to a life of suffering when you could easily repair a gene defect. That's no different than letting a child die instead of giving them an antibiotic, or amputating an infected limb instead of giving them an antibiotic.
2:14 This is basically the theme in the Deus Ex games.
But why only children? With retroviruses adults can do it as well, there's this hype with embryos and it'll happen early with those but what about adults? Are we doomed to be worse than the youth? Of course not, there are people looking how to cure aging and death in adults and that's very similar to changing an eye color (the latter is ironically more complex)
I think we should just remove negative traits such as genetic disorders, not give “better” traits.
I don’t think it would cause a class divide because if IQ could be increased and a ‘perfect human’ can be made, everyone’s financial priority would be genetic modification.
That is why scientists are the people we should really by afraid about. Politicians use weapons, but scientists make them
i really want to be an immortal demigod with no flaws but those built in to the human design, so sign me up
As a disabled person I would not have minded if I was not born with a disability I would probably have been more happier and not as suicidal/depression as I am
50 years from now, humans vs transhumanist
This is a very high quality video man, keep it up
Love the new logo! It looks quite a bit more refined than the old one.
This is so weird I just wrote my ethical thesis paper on this same topic...last night
I think the ones that are not moddified will naturally have to evolve. Plus ik when someone thinks there better then you you just naturally work harder balancing it all out tbh.
what?
This is definetly one of those things that should NOT be left to the free market to handle. Because of the incredible potential danger of gene editing this future industry should only be handled by a specialized government body that could closely test and regulate what modifications were allowed and also make sure that those modifications were available for the general public. Im talking about things like immunisation from diseases and the like. That is the only way to handle a technology such as this one!
2:03 then make it free for all on the NHS. We all benefit from having all people smarter
Love the channel!!
I hate the argument “Since the Nazis thought it was a good idea it must be a terrible idea.” Fuck that I want a 6’ 4” Greek god with a genius level iq and and 8-pack for a child and I don’t think anyone should be allowed to tell me different. But seriously this is some cool stuff (and we should use it carefully I know).
I look at it like Mars colonisation. Sure, the first people who get to do it will be the rich. But their purchases will be the backing needed to develop genetic engineering to the point where the general population could do it. Frankly, this same argument could be applied in a larger scale to 1at world countries developing tech that 3rd world nations can't afford.
I even have a visual impairment and I don’t want genetic engineering. But, as I write this, wouldn’t things like eye surgery be similar, just after birth..? So modifications are preventative. It’s complicated.
I just don’t see much good coming out of this. I mean, our medical technology has already prolonged our lives, but if we make it too good the earth will become over populated leading to wars for resources etc...
Nice new intro/ probably logo.
Thanks!
23 and me is gathering the perfect genetics
Is it possible to modify a human that has already been born? Specifically talking about diseases.
Btw how do you make these vids, ubs, paint, PowerPoint and sony vegas?
Watch the movie Gattaca, it is based on genetic engineering
We should leave genetics alone it’s un ethical to say disability’s are a problem or not perfect we’re human no ones perfect that is what makes us human and different
This is some Gattaca shit