Are you implying people who are trying to fight fascism and right wing extremists are fighting on the same level? What are we supposed to do? Just watch as huge parts of the population turn neo-nàzì?
Not out if rage. Nobody votes right because they were angry the left made a better country for us all. The left destroys Europe, that is why we don't vote for it.
The scariest thing is that with each day that passes if you have an eye on the news and you know some history you realise that the times we are living in right now are oddly similar to the ones from the 1930s wich is something we all should be concerned of
Yep, the great depression, war in ukraine (germany demanding everything in the 30s), people turning leaning into far-right and far-left. Why dont we ever learn from history...
@@nekrokodylREAL we don’t learn from history because people that are hardliners on either side don’t learn the history of what was. Facism, communism, political divide between ideologies, is all the failure of proper understanding at the hands of the rich that want to keep people under essentially indentured servitude
My favourite quote whenever someone Asks me about my political views. When you are able to explain that the left and the right See the same Problem(s), only their solution is different, you can have a actual diskurs and find solutions/compromise.
@@Notapizzathieflol, you don't gotta be racist towards black people to be facist. They can be mutually exclusive. If anything, a lot of that behavior came from the crusades.
Dunno about Europe, but here in India its almost all Fascist under Modi government. Sadly, we once were a Democracy and his paid IT cell will come ranting in the comment section if they see this.
Yeah i see alot of comments from india supporting the colonial land stealing apartheid state, though that could have something to do with the perceived "common enemy" narrative that has been spread worldwide. It aint easy being surrounded by stupid. Hang in there comrade ✊🏼
Again that bullshit crying that India is turning into 'dictatorship '😂you congress paid it cell never get tired of spreading this dictatorship propaganda😂
@@MrOvipare I mean yeah, communists go on about "read the book bro" someone reads the jewish question and they call it "not being fair bro, not fair bro". but at the same time like Second Thought.. professing to be wise, he didnt notice he mentioned fascists while showing the nazi symbol.. its just an insult to him, something to not be understood as thats bad, either causu hes afraid of being wrong about it or being pulled in easily by a new ideology.
@@philipthecow no, it’s really not. countless experts from all sides of social science, economics, politics, etc. have all proved it. it’s up to you if you want to believe the facts or not.
@@rni4069 Biased "experts" can write papers about studies all day that ignore key things that a person picks up on from everyday life. Thus an "expert" is no better than the average guy. While immigration undoubtedly grows the economy in terms of raw numbers experience suggests it's usually going to lower the quality of life for the people living there. For one, there's obviously less land per person. Other metrics such as culture are far more subjective and unlikely to be captured by "studies" in any sort of unbiased manner.
@@philipthecow you just proved that you have no idea what an expert is OR a study. every single thing that you mentioned has also been studied. extensively. you just have this idea that experts are all some random woke people who only study things that would support woke policies and will make up shit to prove their points. newsflash, that’s not how the world works. at all. YOU couldn’t publish a study no matter what because you’re not an expert with extensive education and knowledge. that’s why no one will listen to your random observations of society and immigration. because they’re not supported by anything. they’d rather listen to people who spend their whole life studying and figuring this shit out. don’t be afraid of academia, it won’t bite.
But at the same time, soviets seemingly failed harder at denazifying their part of the country: AfD voter share is significantly higher in former East Germany.
@@johndowson1852 ruclips.net/video/J5AlxcmYX2s/видео.html Oh really? Who has been the one pushing anti-communism propaganda in East Germany in the last 30 years then?
Why ? It's very comparable... In Europe fascist can be much more mask off because they can have their party... The republicans have more power, but have to be more hidden
I am sorry is it wrong for two extremely fucked political landscapes to be compared? Nah tho seriously let the guy compare what he likes, so long as his reasoning is solid and valid.
@@markener4316 when it comes to crime rate per notonality you can not compare the EU with the U.S you cant say ohh but in america the mexicans do less crimes. because it isnt mexicans that immagrate to europe.
@@markener4316 Except his reasoning is not solid and valid. You cannot just take data from the US and expect it translates into the same thing in Europe. It is not just two extremely fucked political landscapes being compared, he talks mostly about immigration and the profiles of immigrants are wildly different in the United States and in Europe thus contributing to different results(e.g. crime stats), so his reasoning is flawed.
"Fascism is the logical result of the fact that the form of private ownership of the means of production can progress no further and must create violent crises, stagnation, and decay. Only the social organization of production can sanely organize production, and this can only come through social revolution. Fascism is an inevitable result of capitalism and its decay if the social revolution is delayed." - R. Palme Dutt (1936, Fascism And Social Revolution)
It's interesting how all the information about what fascism is comes from non-fascist sources. Consider what fascist leader Benito Mussolini has to say: "Modernity is the enemy of all that is human. The worker is an animal. He has lost his humanity. He has lost his will to live. The worker is a machine, and modernity has turned him into one. Fascism will save us from this nightmare." -Diritto al lavoro (the right to work) 1932 speech.
> speaks about Europe > only cites studies about the US If you want some actual research about the topic, watch Into Europe's video about immigration IN EUROPE. Spoiler alert: It's not the same as in the US and all immigrants are NOT the same.
They are just delusional as they always are they think we have something about black christians and etc , when in fact we are pretty chill to them as long as you are a good immigrant and are paying taxes then I am more than happy to welcome you into Europe but the issue is that they who are coming each day are not !
@@jordyjohnathan5123 Migrants from other EU countries and migrants on a work visa contribute to the economy and pay more money in taxes than they consume in social benefits. Asylum seekers on the other hand are oftentimes unemployed for years, living exclusively on social benefits, especially women. If you want to know more, you should check out Into Europe's video on the topic. He cites a lot of studies that talk about Europe, not the US, since he's not a quack.
@@Leiwanderer Into Europe is also a Right Wing hack. His very own studies and examples disprove his point especially towards the end of that video where Japan is shown to be an even more miserable failure for economic growth compared to Europe due to their xenophobic immigration policy. Towards the end he talks more about how Immigration damages "Social Cohesion" more than anything. (Which is just a dogwhistle for White Majority)
@@Leiwanderer Into Europe is also a rightist hack. His very own studies and examples disprove his point especially towards the end of that video where Japan is shown to be an even more miserable failure for economic growth compared to Europe due to their immigration policy. At the end he talks more about how Immigration damages "Social Cohesion" more than anything. (Which is just a dogwhistle for Demographic Majority)
Immigration is needed to support the workforce, but saying immigration is NEVER bad is just as shortsighted as saying immigration is ALWAYS bad. It is a complex thing that needs to be balanced. This video is lacking the usual critical unbiased reporting im used to from this channel
Precisly my take I have zero problem with immigration so long as its regulated and any bad immigrant is emmidiatly send away from where they came from Leaving the door wide open for all is asking for trouble. Much like feeding animals eventually if you dont give any they can become pissed
@@beerten202doesn't sending "bad" immigrants away cause other problems too? 1. Not every place immigrants come from is safe. 2. If you are talking about people that do violent crimes, I don't think they are going to stop doing that once they are back in their home country, right? So sending them back doesn't help if you think about it globally. Maybe I am wrong on that, don't have any data, those are just thoughts.
Yeah, it's getting worse. The Netherlands also took a swing even further to the right, and our government has been led by right-wing parties for a while now, even if they were nowhere near as extreme. It's quite simple, really. Capitalism is failing humanity on all fronts, but instead of blaming capitalism and the exploitation it depends upon, people point towards "outsiders" and "the left", and thus the country takes a turn to "the right". Sad reality is "the left" requires a deep understanding of context and nuance to explain why left-wing policies should be implemented, and most people just can't be bothered with context and nuance. So they try to find an easy solution instead, unwilling to admit that these "easy solutions" are the real problem.
The Netherlands has been ruled by right-wing parties since the Eighties. Even our so-called Labour Party is right wing. They do absolutely nothing for the labourers. The sad fact is that for those who are left-wing, there is simply no party to vote for. We can "choose" between right, farther right, or ultra right.
@@wouter.de.ruiter I'm sorry, but that's just not true. We can argue whether or not the left is left enough, but suggesting that parties such as GroenLinks, now merged with PVDA, SP and Denk are right-wing is just disingenuous. You don't need to be an outright communist party in order to be left-wing.
It's really not great. Limburg and Venlo in the south also has a lot of elements grafting their faith further into our already pretty 'normalised' right-leaning stances. Wish you the best friends
3:00 how is immigration always okay? When infrastructure hasn't been built and housing is in short supply how is this okay? Billionaires want massive immigration to drive down labour costs and increase the pool of unemployed people competing for limited jobs. The destruction of urban environments and the removal of parklands in my city is a direct outcome of unprecedented immigration numbers. Traumatised people from the Middle East dumped here really struggle with culture shock too. So is all immigration really a good thing?
@@Luuucaz69 They only thing they contributed to so far is the rise of crime and violence. I dont pay taxes so the money can facilitate some useless buffoons who would rather shank me than adapt to the local environment.
@@itzwaluigitime8678 And yet, lots of other countries in poorer regions envy what you have. You have no idea that not everything is bad, and you live in a developed economy. Maybe when you experience REAL problems you can compare what you face now and find that it is negligible
@@pieterduplessis6906 ok bro "it's worse elsewhere and we should be happy with what we have" is exactly the loser mentality that pushes people to kindly stay in their place and ABSOLUTELY not revolt against every injustice everyone including them face to some degree, gtfo with that typa speech will you ? Not being a third world country is NOT an excuse to not stand up.
This video is wrong on so many levels. 1.)Firstly, most of the statistics you showcase, such as the one about crime differences between immigrants and natives or the one about contributing to wages, are from the US. That is just stupid considering this video is focusing on Europe that has a wildly different immigration situation than the United States. That statistic is just untrue in terms of European immigration. To disprove your claims I will mostly use Sweden as an example, a country that was once regarded as a heaven on earth, low poverty and crime, with a very high HDI. So we have Sweden where immigrants, particularly from the Middle East and Africa, are significantly overrepresented in crime statistics. A study covering 2002 to 2017 found that 58% of criminal suspects were immigrants, with even higher percentages for serious crimes like murder and robbery.; Murder, Attempted Murder, Manslaughter: *Immigrants were suspects in 73% of these cases.* Robberies: *70% of suspects were immigrants.* A 2020 analysis by the Crime Prevention Research Center found that every 1% increase in Sweden's immigrant population was associated with a 3.6% rise in the homicide rate. In correlation with uncontrolled immigration Sweden, as of 2024, has the *SECOND HIGHEST* amount of rapes per a 100k people IN THE WORLD, such a number was impossible to even imagine before. Also, if you want search up the Cologne(a city in Germany) New Year Eve rapes. It was very a hush hush situation where the mainstream media and police tried to protect immigrants who sexually assaulted thousands of women in one night. 2.) While immigration CAN be good(definitely not always true as you claim), illegal immigration should be stopped at any cost. Over the 10 years from 2012 to 2022, about 41 million people immigrated to the European Union, and of those about 3.8 million, over 9%, are estimated to have done so illegally. 3.) It is also untrue that immigrants contribute to higher wages, another statistic you seemed to take from the US. They drain money from social welfare and do not contribute to higher wages, as showcased in the following examples; A 2020 report from the Danish Ministry of Finance indicated that non-Western immigrants had an employment rate of about 58%, compared to 82% for native Danes. This lower employment rate among immigrants contributes to their higher dependency on social welfare and less contribution to the tax base. The German Institute for Economic Research found in 2021 that non-EU immigrants had an employment rate of around 55%, compared to 75% for native Germans. The Migration Advisory Committee in the UK reported in 2020 that a 10% increase in the proportion of immigrants in the labor force reduced wages for native low-skilled workers by about 2%. 4.) If you have any questions I will do my best to answer in the comments since this comment is already too long I will stop with disproving the false claims in this video here.
Honestly the immigration is good article he got is honestly far from the truth in my eyes. Plenty of illegal immigrants cause murder and partake in the drug trade. Our southernmost state of Texas had to reinforce the Mexican border themselves because our government is ran by the same generation that are skeptical of cellphones. Although I agree that racism is bad just because we don't want immigrants doesn't mean we are racist.
@@heartache5742exactly, and in the uk case it’s because the tories halted economic growth, meaning there was less money to go around and when the immigrants came, the tories blamed it on them instead of their handling of economical issues
1) If a study done in the US demonstrates that the boiling point of water is 100C, do you think we need a different study done in Europe to determine whether the boiling point of water is 100C in Europe too? If you don't think so, then your criticism here is incoherent. Just cuz Europe has a different "climate situation" than the US, does not negate factual consequences of specific actions. Similarly, studies done in the US about immigration (the ones I've seen at least) do not rely on the specific system of immigration the US has. Also you only cited *suspects* not *convicted* people. Your numbers can just as easily be explained via bigoted profiling, they do not prove what you think they prove. There is no evidence of anywhere in Europe the police "tried to protect" would-be assaulters, you've just bought in to empty right wing talking points. 2) This makes no sense. Illegal immigration makes up a minute portion of virtually any country's annual immigration numbers. Not to mention that them being illegal doesn't harm society, which makes your suggestion that it must be stopped "at any cost" completely ridiculous. 3) Firstly, see 1). The studies being done in the US do not mean the conclusions are only valid in the US. This isn't how (economic) studies work. Your cited data from Denmark/Germany does not support the point you were trying to prove. Even if a specific sub-group of immigrants (you conveniently left out overall immigrants) rate is lower, this does not logically then suggest that immigrants overall "do not contribute to higher wages", or even that specific sub-group. This is a non sequitur. Whereas your data from the UK is at least trying to support the claim, it too is cherry picked and therefor invalid. It can both be true that low skilled workers get lower wages as a result of a 10% increase in immigration, as well as that overall workers get an increase in wages (or at least no reduction). I think its clear you've bought in to right wing lies and didn't stop to critically think about what they were telling you.
Most people would choose fascism if it's fairly easy to do. People want simple solutions, and the fascists have a bag full of them. They just want someone to handle everything for them.
That is what makes me hopeful though. The majority of people are not politically active, they will accept whatever system they live under. I hope that after a revolution most of the people will just keep going on living their lives and the right opposition will not be absolutely overwhelming.
@MCDreng That's pretty much what history shows us. The problem is, revolution is a rather hierarchical beast, and leads to more hierarchy. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.
The Patriots for Europe website is the perfect analog to far-right movements. All colorful imagery and bluster with absolutely no substance to its underlying purpose.
The EU is a neoliberal technocrat dictatorship and the establishment "left" abandoned fighting for the workers and became neolibs as well so the fascist turn was totally predictable and maybe even planned.
They taught that after the war The Nazis vanished without a trace, But battalions of fascists Still dream of a master race. The history books, they tell Of their defeat in ’45, But they all came out of the woodwork On the day the Nazi died. They said the pris’ner of Spandau Was a symbol of defeat; Whilst Hesse remained in prison, Then the fascists, they were beat. So, the promise of an Aryan world Would never materialize. So, why did they all come out of the woodwork On the day the Nazi died? The world is riddled with maggots. The maggots are getting fat. They’re making a tasty meal Of all the bosses and bureaucrats. They’re taking over the boardrooms, And they’re fat and full of pride. And they all came out of the woodwork On the day the Nazi died. So, if you meet with these historians, I’ll tell you what to say: Tell them that the Nazis Never really went away. They’re out there burning houses down And peddling racist lies. And we’ll never rest again Until every Nazi dies.
I can’t discern who’s worse on that front, Europeans or Americans. The amount of openly genocidal rhetoric I’ve seen from my fellow Americans about trans people, immigrants, Palestinians, etc. is scary.
Look, im almost always on your side on any issue. But saying that "[the negativ sentiment against migrants] is based on nothing" is spitting in the face of those who have had bad experiences with them, like in cologne a few years back. Safe to say you lost a subscriber.
Poland has had a bad experience with Ukrainians. Poland struggles more because of people from that country. Poles complain a lot. Who try to make a business because of competition and Ukrainians with money. But also workers because prices rise and less workplaces or flats at good prices. You know that they are all white? They also misbehave sometimes or want to be treated special. But are those people the real reason? Or the system itself and those who gain or try to gain on it? Bad social institutions. You always could be in their shoes. On their place. You would not behave as you are. Is not the same as from your current perspective.
Not quite "all across the UK": these protests were limited to England and Northern Ireland, and there among the unionists. Wales and Scotland had, at most, minor events where the counter-protestors vastly outnumbered the anti-immigration groups. This seems predominately to be an English problem, which unfortunately overshadows the other three nations.
Scotland is staunchly antifascist 🏴🏴 even folks here who wouldn’t self describe as being on the left would still mobilise against any fringe fascist movement
I would have loved for you to pick out sources actually showing the numbers for Europe instead of the US - not because I disagree or anything, but because as a European, I would've loved to have some facts to point towards when discussing these topics
the problem is that the statistics from europe are hard to find, the only country who publishes really specific information about the economical impact of foreigners discriminating by region/country of origin is denmark, and based on that they have the most strict inmigration policy in the EU. This video has information about Europe ruclips.net/video/mNZ67cVp6ic/видео.html it is way less biased and manipulaive than second thought's video, who also dont have a word about the left coalition wining just with the help of an strategic alliance with the evil neoliberals from macron block
A little fun fact about French politics: Jean-Marie Le Pen, Marine Le Pen's father, has been pushed away from the party by his own daughter due to him being a bad look during the phase of de-demonization, most notably because of his numerous anti-semitic and h0locaust denial comments (that actually got him convicted for hate speech), as well as his affiliation to actual n4zis he founded the party with. And THIS MAN is being labeled "the man who was right too early" by some French media... the same man who was ejected from his party for being too openly discriminatory towards the people who aren't the current far-right scapegoat It tells you all, they all know that the party's mentality hasn't evolved, hasn't gotten "less extreme", they know it's a facade and yet it somehow works...
This is quite hypocrite as jews in france openly call themselves antisemite ( if you search a bit on youtube you can find compilation of it ), “massacreur” (slaughterer), openly say they come to france only for money and that french peoples should have theirs throats slit on the spot and that “islam is the broom of israel”, openly call for the genocide of palestine (and also it's eradication - in theirs own words -) call palestinians a cancer and complain about “the poison of democracy” and “how everyone should be united by one goal and ideology”; then they openly allow azov into israel and allow them to pray to the wall (with barren chest exposing theirs tattoos too) and become “jews” ( yet to keep theirs nazi imagery) (also israeli soldier love to upload picture of themselves holding nazi flag ); There is also a jew that did a carbon tax fraud, and he bragged on “touche pas a mon poste” that jews control the judicial system, he also did a nasty “joke” on how he “steal from the rich” as a reference to the christian bible and how it states that “christian are rich, but they do not know it”, in fact jews in france quite often bash the bible or say it is nonsense (you can find compilation of it). Oh another example is that there was a french jewish mayor (therefore paid by french peoples taxes money )who stated “i do not care about retirement ( of french peoples), i care about israel”. Another example is how they had the french president celebrate the hanukkah at the elysee and light it even though the french government is supposed to be separated from religion ( of course it's a lie as it is profoundly freemasonic and jewish at its core , even the french national anthems is a hymn from a jewish song ) Another quite impressive example is netanayuh drone strike in france and how he went here and said “we cannot allow terrorist in our territory” implying that france is israel property / territory. Another example is emmanuelle wargon a jew who was the minister of the ecological transition, and she stated “the nonsense of the individual house” while she own a million-euro house in a rich quarter.(she of course meant non “elite” do not deserve to own houses). So your stuff is reverse accusation, french politics is already profoundly facist at its core, the idea is that politicians / rapecultist are God incarnated on earth and above the laws, that they can do whatever they want, that accordign to theirs own word they are “sacred”, that theirs children's are betters and need to go to private schools, that they are “the Gods” and that the non them / peoples who disagree with them are “les inutiles”.(the useless). The le pen are just a boogeyman as they eat in the pot like the others, an artificial scapegoat. So of course peoples can easily be manipulated as it is true that jews hold tremendous power over france , have special status that allows them quasi infinite hate speech and genocide speeches, are part of the “sacred” “Gods”, but they themselves are just a branch of rape cultism.
This is basically how all the European far right parties operate. Most of them are steeped in generations of Nazis or Fascists, but adopt plausible-deniable rhetoric to cover that up, and people are either ignorant or flat out don't care because all these 3rd generation Nazis publically claim to hate the same people they do.
The halo effect is when your judgement on someone is impacted by the groups that surrounds the person, the horn effect is when your judgement is impacted by a single negative or positive characteristic. The halo effect does not apply here for the RN does not surround the LePen family they are part of it, they are the leaders of it actually, so it's direction is a direct indicator of the LePens moral values. The horn effect also doesn't really apply since Jean Marie has been condemned multiple time for hate speech, toward different groups it is not unjustified to consider him an hateful bastard
Speaking as a South African we have a lot of experience with xenophobia, and mob justice. The fundamental cause is a loss of trust in the police and the courts to do their jobs. The British riots can be seen in a lot of ways as a signature failure of conservative politics. Under the Tories, the police were defunded - this was part of Theresa May's legacy when she had that portfolio. It is significant that Rotherham was one of the flashpoints for the riots - that is part of the legacy of the events that led to the Rotherham Report, in which it was found that police didn't want the bad PR that would come from prosecuting Islamic rape gangs that prostituted British children. It is not correct, or helpful to claim that this is all based on nothing, because it provides no means of addressing the underlying problems that led to those riots. It also fails to account for a very important lesson from Rotherham - that the right does not deliver on its core promises. The right aren't particularly good on law enforcement, the conservative approach on immigration appears entirely ineffective at moderating issues that come from immigration. Indeed it is almost like cutting social services for younger, working populations and treating them as cheap labor to be exploited or cheap campaign bogeymen does not in fact result in safer societies.
I'm glad to see a fellow South African understanding the formation of fascism better than the Europeans in this chat. We have our own problems in our country. I know that we as a nation is exploited for our labour by the West.
@@OkamiZone by yourselves. not the west, is that what Julius Malema told you as he killed "the bread basket" that fed africa? or in other words white people who dared feed his people?
Rotherham was not a flashpoint for these riots. The real reason behind them was the tragic incident where a Black Christian man killed three young white girls-not anything to do with Rotherham. Now, let's talk about the hypocrisy. When Lucy Letby, a white nurse, killed babies in a hospital, no one rioted. When white British groomers target children, the same people stay quiet. This selective outrage is telling. The core issue behind these riots was the misinformation that falsely blamed a Muslim. Figures like Tommy Robinson, Andrew Tate, and Nigel Farage were spreading these false claims. It’s frustrating that some people are drawing conclusions without understanding the real reasons for the unrest. If you truly cared about your country, you wouldn't be out looting stores or damaging local businesses/houses. What did the riots achieve? Nothing. They didn’t help anyone, not the people who were rioting, nor the communities they claim to despise so much. At the end of the day, it’s just another example of divide and conquer. The wealthy benefit from the chaos, while the most vulnerable fall for it. Those at the bottom continue to suffer while the rich profit.
I've noticed on the ground they're talking about EU in national terms. "Protect the borders/culture/people." They went from euro skepticism a few years ago and wanting nothing to do with it, to rallying around it as an identity and political block. Pretty fascinating, if somewhat ironic.
It's a logical progression of the European idea, and a testament to the fact how much of Europe is actually made up of immigrants. Nearly a third of the people in my hometown are foreigners, and two thirds have some kind of migrant background. And a lot of those are the most ardent supporters of the far right's anti-MENA racism. It's not too different from how in US history, Irish and Italian Americans went from being the targets of racism and classism to being active and gleeful participants in racist discrimination.
They taught that after the war The Nazis vanished without a trace, But battalions of fascists Still dream of a master race. The history books, they tell Of their defeat in ’45, But they all came out of the woodwork On the day the Nazi died. They said the pris’ner of Spandau Was a symbol of defeat; Whilst Hesse remained in prison, Then the fascists, they were beat. So, the promise of an Aryan world Would never materialize. So, why did they all come out of the woodwork On the day the Nazi died? The world is riddled with maggots. The maggots are getting fat. They’re making a tasty meal Of all the bosses and bureaucrats. They’re taking over the boardrooms, And they’re fat and full of pride. And they all came out of the woodwork On the day the Nazi died. So, if you meet with these historians, I’ll tell you what to say: Tell them that the Nazis Never really went away. They’re out there burning houses down And peddling racist lies. And we’ll never rest again Until every Nazi dies.
Fascism never left for long. It came back in 1948. The core of facism comes from pleasing arms producers and trying to hide class divide behind nationalism.
Czech Republic mentioned let's goooo 🇨🇿 Even though far right is rising in my country, the real problem is our neoliberal government doing austerity politics which is already ruining future of our country.
And also our left being non-existent as a force of revolugion, because the communist party (KSČM) has become filled with opportunists and doesnt have any other agenda other than "Russia good, America bad and we dont like migrants". And are using the name communist, just to get support from the old people that think theyre gonna turn time back to the "good old days"
co to kecáš za nesmysly.. jediná skutečně "silně" pravicová (spíše populisticky ideologistická..) strana podílející se na aktuálním politickém dění v ČR je SPD a to pouze jakožto člen koaliční opozice..
I think you're missing the European dimension of the immigration issue. Most of your referenced studies on it were also conducted in America and are not necessarily applicable to Europe. The idea that immigration is a unilaterally good thing and immigrants cause no issues may be true for the US, but it's demonstrably untrue for Europe. Statistically speaking Muslim immigrants in Europe do commit more crime for instance. That doesn't mean we should be profiling them all based on that, but it's still true. What's also true is that in Denmark it's been shown that MENA immigrants are a net tax drain for the state. This is important to acknowledge because if we argue on premises that just aren't true, people will notice the truth and they will distrust everything else you say too. Similarly if an argument relies on false premises, it isn't very credible. A lot of immigrants have to cross an ocean to get there, meaning no one is crossing on flimsy boats. The people who can make it to the US at all are generally already financially better off, and often well educated. Immigration is also much more controlled as a result. Basically the only uncontrolled illegal immigration occurs from Mexico, and it's not especially difficult for Mexicans or Latin Americans to integrate into American society. Gone are the days in Europe as well when anyone would seriously complain about "Polish plumbers", and the recent Ukrainian refugees have caused no problems nor provoked strong reactions either. At the same time, America has the advantage of being an English speaking country and a lot of people already speaking English, not to mention America projecting immense cultural influence and everyone being at least somewhat Americanised. Furthermore it's a country which treats its idea of nationality and national identity as a creed and the foundational mythos of which is on some level an "immigrant country". European countries all have their own language, which may or may not be spoken or learned by recent arrivals. Furthermore Europe is made up of nation states, where "nation" is implicitly understood to refer more or less to a people of a common language and ancestry, at least that is how these nation states were generally founded. While it may be positive to try and change that perception, people can have intense emotional reactions to that. The first step to reforming an entire national culture and identity is understanding it. Simply ignoring it is going to result in violence.
Just the beginning of your comment proves your racism and right wing or far right wing stand. We have the same in France ... Based on nothing but your own biases. There are studies that proves your wrong. But you'll say this is leftist militant studies ...
@@thefox4944 what? Do you not understand the word majority? Means more people understand it and profit from it than are oblivious to it... i mean you and i profit from it... being able to go on youtube and watch a video about neoliberalism is a huge privilege we are awarded because we profit from the system
Though I am not against immigration, I do think that you need to put up a better argument for immigration if you want to convince people, for example since we are talking about Europe, a study on EU would be more appropriate than the one on US since they have vastly different social welfare program, economic situation and demographics.
Of course, immigration is a net gain for the USA. The US receives many highly skilled and well-educated immigrants. Clearly, their contribution is a net gain for the US. Also, it is much easier for the ordinary immigrant in the US to blend in with the melting pot because they are more culturally similar to their hosts. Also, with the exception of the UK, it is much more plausible to expect an immigrant to speak English than a language that is not even spoken by 50 million people worldwide. Unfortunately, the same cannot be said of European immigrants. What is the net gain of accepting proportionally more immigrants from third world countries? It is sad to see how poorly the integration of migrants from Afghanistan, for example, has worked in Europe. I hardly know any Afghans, and I suspect that many of them hardly know any locals. Whether this is the result of a lack of effort by the immigrants or a lack of integration efforts by European politicians, it is safe to say that immigration from the US is not comparable to immigration from Europe.
"Funny" thing: you'll notice in the graph at 1:10, which was one of the official ones used all over the media in France, that the NFP is shown as smaller than the far-right, even though they have more seats.
when people go ‘oh progress will always happen, it’s always getting better’ i point to the last eight years and go ‘hm really? you sure? we’ve been backsliding in every arena and marginalized groups have been sounding the alarm to no avail’
@@tyemccatty763 eight (8) years. i’m from the us and in 2015 we got gay marriage and we’ve been backsliding ever since. that’s my frame of reference, please do not misunderstand.
@@francescadamore6746 in the sense that all but a small few are suffering under capitalism, sure. in the sense that life is hard for all of us who can’t get adequate healthcare and our social systems are buckling under austerity, sure. further than that i will not concede.
@@Lamster66 gay marriage is definitely a good thing! Backsliding in terms of losing trans rights, voting rights, labor rights, women’s rights, the right to bodily autonomy for people who can get pregnant etc etc. (i am from the us and our problems may differ, but the root is the same: not caring for people’s dignity and human rights.)
I'm a french political student that want to expend its English skills and I found your very interesting chanel, count me among your followers! Continue!
I need to improve my French, are there any French channels made by people who have mostly the same kinds of views as JT (Second Thought)? (I am a native German speaker from Switzerland in case that info is of any use to you.)
I'm a native English speaker but like the commenter above me have also been trying to find good french channels about politics if you have any suggestions
Wrong. there has always been a strong right wing (=conservaties), but now the far right is rising. I think it makes sense to distiguish between right and far right eventhough I am strongly against both. If everyone is an asshole, nobody is an asshole anymore, so it only benefits the far rights
Its beyond weird to present this video as a truth for Europe, while sources are limited for US. Had second thought actually done their job on this, which they usually do, they would have found crime stats for several countries in Europe that would prove them wrong, but also noted that many countries don't publish data on such level - something which will make conclusions drawn in this video invalid at best, or flat out a lie. Same can be said for most claims - "far right" can be criticized for a lot, but pushing data and a narrative that US welfare system is equal to that in Europe, hence numbers would be the same is very poor presentation of fact, or willfully misleading. Had second though even asked chat gpt they would have found: Net Impact: A 2018 study by Denmark's Ministry of Finance found that Western immigrants were a net positive, while non-Western immigrants were a net cost. However, over time, as integration policies improve and migrants enter the workforce, the fiscal balance can shift positively. That would be in line with other countries in Europe also. For UK given that they struggle in many parts of the UK with low education etc - immigrants probably "steal" their jobs in the sense that low skilled work is being taken. But this seems based on data mostly because of poor management of UK as a whole, and so can seem to be applied for Germany to if my sources are correct. Anyhow - its extremely poor of second thought not to include facts for Europe, and case conclusions on studies from the US based on US DATA, assuming somehow that its 1:1 to other countries.
@@bluester7177I suggest you read again. I haven’t said anything about the US as you claim. If you manage to read that into it - that might however be a you problem, and not me
French person here, i'm here to give a little more context for the 2 elections in france talked in the video: The first vote, which was the European election, ended up like that for a few reasons. Firstly, there has been a big push for the normalization of the RN these last 10 years or so thanks to Marine Le-Pen. Secondly, there is a lot of people that have lost confidence in the system, so it made a lot of people on the left not vote, and some of them voted for the RN either as a vote of contestation or because, in their own words, "on a jamais essayé" (we never tried it). Without getting into details, this phrase is naive at best and malicious at worst. After the European election ended up like it did, Macron dissolved the National Assembly and left only 2 weeks of preparation before the vote on the Legislative election. Unfortunately, even with Macron getting a "Everyone disliked that" moment, people didn't think they could enact change in the system, so, even if there was less absentees, there were a lot of votes of contestation for the RN. After people saw the disaster that was the first round, people tried their best to block the RN, including people who did votes of contestation. There is a lot of stuff that i'm leaving like how we've operated without a prime minister for more than a month thanks to Macron deliberately doing the Legislative just before the Olympics to divert and calm people from the problem he created himself, but i gotta stop somewhere. Of course, this isn't meant to be an exhaustive and i have my own biases, so take what i said with a grain of salt. PS: Might as well say that the French Socialist Party is pretty bad. I've heard them be described as the "gauche molle" (soft left) and that's pretty much it. Socialism is really good but the French Socialist Party isn't.
French is my first language, and thus, I'm often educated about the politics of the French republic. I'm glad that you were able to summarize the current electoral situation over there in a comprehensive manner for those who aren't informed (even from a socialist perspective lol). I heard lots of harsh commentary on the Rassemblement National's policy against immigration, and the preservation of French values, but media bias is too prevalent nowadays, so it's better to view everything with skepticism.
@@crimsonhermit9383 the RN was founded by ex-Nazis, and, up until 10 years ago, it had some really appalling speeches. People who think the RN has softened are being deceived by Le-Pen, who has just redirected the party's idea to be more in line with what people think it's "ok" to vote for. They're just hiding their real intention to get elected, and then they'll reveal their real policies. The far left is no better. But because people want easy solutions and do not check the facts, they fall into a spiral that leads them to vote for extremes. We're currently in a situation where everyone has forgotten to consider that if we vote for the extremes, it could be 1933 all over again. History is taught in schools so that we do not make the same mistakes again. But it seems that the whole of Europe has already forgotten what happened. Besides, not having a prime minister isn't as big of a problem as people think; it prevents the government from making a bad decision, but at the same time, the country can still run normally. The Belgians had the same situation for two years, and their country didn't collapse.
@@Weromano yes but a soft left gov will never achieve much as they tend ot be here for their careers and thus are huge reformists. We see that the proletarian is voting more and more to the right : that's an effect of this "soft left" or fake left. When they are elected they don't do much, people feel bettayed, so next time they vote RN
I usually don't think too much about the one-sided views on this cannel, but as a European I feel the need to criticise here. No, immigration is NOT "always beneficial". It is if you have an actual system to integrate people of other cultures and to give them the education they need to be useful for your economy. So something that since decades everyone in Europe put under the rug, hoping it would solve itself or simply vanish. It didn't, and many people are now on the breaking point where they consider voting fascist parties simply because they are the only ones that actually offer a solution, or something at all even. People like Macron are not going harder on immigrants because they want to install fascism, they are doing do BECAUSE people are fed up with the non-immigration politics of the left and liberal parties. And there ARE problems with immigrants, you simply can't deny that. Even countries like Sweden have failed to deal with them, and Germans now have a very bitter view on Merkel who (besides failing to modernise the country) had a "Welcome refugees" stance without making any actually progressive actions to make it work. Immigrant criminals are on the rise, especially muslim immigrants, just a few days ago there was someone killing people in the name of Islamic terrorism. Don't try to talk it off. Don't pretend it doesn't happen. We have been through this since 2015. It is clear now, to even the most leftist European countries, that it doesn't work, and that there is a cultural divide that is so large that it is very hard to overcome. And that immigration is no second thought topic. Ultra-right parties have gained so much power recently because people are, often rightfully so, fed up about everyone telling them to welcome everyone and having to swallow the negative consequences. All the other parties have simply failed in that department, that's why they HAVE to acknowledge them now, or democracy as it is might actually be in danger. This video feels 8 years too late, I suppose because of it being an American view on Europe. But here, we have been through this, all of it, it is nothing new to us, and it is nothing where we only need someone to tells to approach immigration with open arms. It offers absolute zero solutions, it is merely criticising something without understanding the nuances. Which is exactly how Europe even got into that situation in the first place.
I don’t know what europe he is talking about but this isn’t a matter of put up a wall and its ok, no. Our union is based on social security it functions only if everyone contributes. If everyone comes in and doesn’t do rat shit but complain and not contribute to the values, language and country they’re in its not gonna work and you destroy your self from within. Its not a matter of a wall, this is way bigger than giving jobs. They who don’t come here with intent to study, work, research or teach are even more motivated to not do those things when they experience the immense aid of the structural security systems. Those are draining countries’ resources for the future gens and buffers, so on. The world isn’t a big america. Everywhere is different, cultural, economical, structural, justice wise, religion wise, SO ON.
@@Victorvondoom9159 I dont get why other leftists defend Islam.. its literally ripped off christianity thats worse in every way to women or minorities.. even science cause muhhamad was proven a moron when it came to chemistry, language, gravity or anything else. its so bad black/slave mean the same in arabic (abeed, like in gaza they have Al Abeed, a city which sells slaves)
I can speak for what i saw happening in my country Italy but i bet is the same all over Europe. Voting left or right is gradually becoming irrelevant because people in power have personal and corporate agendas to pursue, while fomenting their voters base with slogans. The left speaks everyday about justice, fair wages, taxing the rich/big corps, helping working class, promote legal immigration but when they are in power none of those things are done, everytime with plausible excuses: the covid, the war, is not the right moment, economic stability comes first etc. The right have the same excuses but gathers vote talking about sticking to "traditional values", security policies, reducing taxes for small businesses, not getting told by EU what to do with our money etc. No matter what colour is in power but you can bet at some point someone will make it dirty and protests will start: the left accusing the right of being fascists, racists and controlling the news the right accusing the left of doing communist policies (everytime at some point someone is accused of taking money from Russia/China or whatever fits) and being laxists on immigration control. The outcome is always the same, youth and many other people gather to protests and the police beat the shit out of them, always with the same excuses: there were infiltrators from extreme right groups, there were violent protesters, there were infiltrators from radical left groups. All this game repeat itself until the next elections, where the winning party can always say that they cannot realize electoral promises because the government before has done X or Y. In the meanwhile we are losing welfare state policies, health system is shifting towards private sector, key infrastructures are missing N° by a lot (some are done spot to convince the voters base before regional/local elections), industrial policies are non-existing, the rich come to our country to hit and run on some companies because they know the government needs money. To broaden the talk to EU, what has changed with last elections? Nothing, the same people as before are in power, foreign policy is managed by the US that decide how EU money are spent (and what nation won't have access to cheap gas anymore, i guess) We are slowly accepting the pervasive control over the news both on paper and on the internet, and the censoring of whoever is labeled as the enemy of democracy (anti-EU, anti-vax, or anti-israel, who knows who's next?). Its sad to say it but the only rational reason to vote a party instead of another is if you can benefit from it economically. There is no solution to this situation in Europe, stop voting seems the only way at least to withdraw my approval of whatever will be done by the ruling class. They will do it no matter what happen. Someone thinks that if the voters base goes below a certain % amount there will be an uprising of the people against the tyrants; i used to believe this but at this point they can get away with whatever.
As a European I agree with what you said, and I feel it really mirrors well why people are so fed up with politicians now. Why vote a moderate party when they won't enact half their program because they had to share the council with the opposite moderate party? It feels like a clown circus at times. I'm Austrian and we had the green party in council together with our liberals. Before they got into council, the green party had a record vote of I think 16%. Now they are under half and might not even get over the minimum vote count to take part in the parliament. It seems that this keeps happening since decades, but only one thing never changes: the liberals will always be be part of the head.
This is the only rational and sane comment in this whole comment section. Unfortunately, it will get drowned out by the more extreme and radical comments.
I'm from America and it's the same way there. It's increasingly obvious that democracy is and has always been a scam-- we are free to vote for whatever we want, as long as it's what bankers and Wall Street want. It's their policies that get implemented 1000% of the time by all factions, year after year, while fake fights over "social issues" like birth control and gun control are dangled like puppets to keep people keen and donations flowing. It's all just a scam as various companies aim to pillage the earth and drain our tax money into their private accounts.
In what countries have actual left wing parties been in power and not done left wing policies? It sounds like you're just blindly parroting centrist BS tbh.
If someone sees my comment, any explanation on the strange amount of "I'm not racist but immigrants blabla" for an openly left wing channel? For a thing I know as a french is that intra--online-left, we are well over this confusionist stage in discourse, that was more of a 2014-2020 thing with a layer of baby red-browns and "sovereignists" or various small but terminally online small groups of online bros, since then a lot of deconfusion happened and most people either upgrade their leftism with anti-racist and decolonial layers, or have gone into the far-right and conspiracies. Also the discourse about separating legal and illegal immigrants doesn't really come often in my experience, their arguments weren't about separating the good from the bad but trying to look neutral and respectable while talking about immigration in itself. Are we still an exception to have "overcome" this phase? Or are they just some of these famous paid trolls according to you lol? The overall left-wing discourse is pretty elaborate on more cases, more than I would think otherwise, I would tend to think even if they wanted to try sounding leftist they would fail if they were hired trolls, yet if its genuine, it's pretty alarming for an intra-left place (even if I enjoy playing my chauvinistic frenchie and brag we obviously got the best left of all colonial countries!).
One of them really brought the " our prisons are full of immigrants" argument, as if a leftist never heard that argument from an american neo n4zi before
You don't have a discourse. Illegal immigration is a tool by neo-liberalism to destroy labor it was always bad but since leftists started abandoning workerist principles and went into woke idpol you now have a problem on your hands. How do you square the fact that illegal immigration is destroying your country while at the same time try to appear "anti-racist". Simple, you tell Americans Europe is different and your illegal immigration is a special sort of immigration whereas Americans kind of illegal immigration is good and they're just being racists. Clowns.
@@Nicolas_II I'm talking the online left, not random people, so doesn't really apply. Also there is the broader subject because of the bigger phenomenon I talk about: In broader life, people ignore they are left wing because of neoliberal narrative and constant disappointment with the elected "left", while some becoming ra-cist to tank their suffering and angst: yes. BUT: red-brown times happen in moment of capitalist crisis that leads the bourgeoisie to wash itself progressive, so it's the "crisis before the crisis", the 1990-2010's, when neoliberals elect themselves through making fas-cism rise while defending pseudo-left social policies and advancing on a number of issues as long as it's a liberal way. We're now deep into the eye of the storm of the fas-cist and impe-rialist crisis with wars and gen-ocide all over the east and our countries going fash, unables and stopping to hide their lack of "democratic" justification for doing so, fas-cists getting elected or trying to be (for my case) are forced to prove themselves to the bourgeoisie and not play it so "populist" anymore and show themselves as the status-quo, defend capitalism again and hope their base doesn't hear, understand, or care, mostly doesn't care. This is what creates a time of deconfusion based on r-ace, the red and the brown get separated clearly: ra-cism doesn't anymore to have to pretend to be popular, white supr-emacy can sustain itself, and socialism who had overcome this class-first problem last decade through white-intersectionnality is overcoming the whiteness currently, and G-aza is accelerating the deconfusion. Once again this is a france-based analysis, where we are ahead of the near whole west by several years and organizational levels, confusion is probably higher in most (all?) anglophone countries and most of the rest in general.
Ah yes. Europe is one country, somehow "the EU turned right" while e.g. the Sweden Democrats collapsed, we're all as bonkers as the English while ignoring the *massive* counter-protests the English did all on their own, unprompted, and, goshdarnit, citing a paper on the economical impact of immigration... *in the US*, which has a completely different economy and a completely different set of immigrants. No, an illiterate 21yold Syrian (Syria's education system collapsed during the civil war) is not going to have a net economic benefit to our economy. Yes, we should still take such people in, teach them skills, so that at least a portion of them will rebuild their countries once things look better. No, we should not pretend like some kind of neoliberal that it's economically beneficial, but rather sort it under developmental aid and general humanity. Truly, you have out-yanked yourself in this one before five minutes are over.
The Sweden democrats didn’t “collapse” in the EU election. They didn’t lose as single seat in the EU parliament and went back only about 2% - primarily due to low voter turnout and skepticism of the EU with many right wing voters that don’t even bother voting, alongside that many SD voters are also pro EU and support the party on the national level, but not EU level (for example regarding being opposed to Swexit, pro Ukraine, pro Climate, and different policies on economy/farming etc). SD always underperforms in the EU and local elections compared to the national elections
0:50 le principali caratteristiche del fascismo sono: -censura ed indottrinamento della popolazione(per censura non intendo che un determinato governo possiede alcune fonti di informazioni importanti e le influenza almeno in parte ma proprio che ad ogni giornale del paese era indicato cosa poter pubblicare o meno e qualora non fossero state rispettate le condizioni imposti ci sarebbero state gravi ripercussioni) -la costituzione di un braccio armato del partito spesso distaccato dalla faccia istituzione del partito(più presentabile ed adatta alle istituzioni),(con braccio armato intendo le camice nere in Italia e organismi come le camice brune in Germania ,formazioni paramilitari che si sostituivano e minavano l'autorità della polizia spesso per eliminare e reprimere avversari del partito). -Ripudio per la democrazia e per l'attività parlamentare perché considerati lenti e inefficace. -Forte volontà di espandere il proprio territorio(e quindi offendere in maniera violenta altri stati) per riscattare l'onore della proprio popolo con il fine di affermarne la grandezza. -spesso anche l'utilizzo di un evento in particolare come giustificazione per l'accentazione del potere.(se noti è completamente diverso l'atteggiamento dei partiti di destra di oggi, è completamente difensivo, non c'è alcuna intenzione di offesa) -forte controllo del tempo libero della popolazione col fine di plasmarla e controllarla. in nessuno dei partiti che vengono definiti di estrema destra oggi ritrovi questi aspetti, Certo se mai si dovesse ripresentare il fascismo non sarebbe completamente nella stessa forma. Si possono sicuramente definire conservatori forse anche ultra-conservatori ma definirli fascisti ti fa perdere di credibilità e se mai ci fosse davvero il rischio non verrebbe più preso sul serio ciò che dici. Qua in Italia il governo di estrema-destra non ha seguito politiche tanto diverse dal precedente governo tecnico di Mario Draghi. 2:26 vivere in democrazia vuol dire che è fondamentale accettare i risultati delle elezioni anche se non ci piacciano e vuol dire che è un nostro compito difendere la libertà degli altri di esprimere la proprio opinione, finché tale opinione non minaccia la tenuta delle istituzioni democratiche(sono pensieri di grandi figure della politica italiana come il presidente e partigiano durante la seconda guerra mondiale Sandro Pertini).Questo è fondamentale perché se non si permette alla gente di esprimere attraverso il voto le loro preoccupazioni magari si rivolgerà in cerca di aiuto verso elementi più estremisti, magari fascisti per davvero(bisogna ascoltare le preoccupazioni della gente).Ritengo anche importante che la destra(come tutti i pensieri che rientrano nello spettro democratico) abbia una propria rappresentanza nella istituzioni europee che ricordo devono rappresentare tutti gli abitanti dei 27 paesi rispecchiandone le volontà, è fondamentale altrimenti il progetto europeo diventa un qualcosa lontano dagli stessi europei utilizzato dai singoli paesi solo per i benefici economici e da una piccola minoranza di paesi e partiti per imporre agli altri la propria linea politica. 4:40 affermi con certezza che l'immigrazione è positiva e usi come argomentazioni a sostegno della tua testi solo articoli sugli Stati Uniti .Poi ti voglio far sull'ultimo punto "l'immigrazione arricchisce la cultura" è proprio ciò su cui non capisci gli europei neanche lontanamente, Ogni singolo paese europeo ha una cultura millenaria , non necessitano di arricchire e cambiare la loro cultura con quella di altri paesi. Se volessi conoscere altre culture andrei nei paesi dove sono presenti tale culture senza necessità di importarle. Sono cose che non ricordano solo l'economia. Poi noi siamo popoli di lavoratori che non hanno paura di sporcarsi le mani, non vogliamo importare persone da altri paesi per usarli per i lavori manuali come schiavi. 5:05 critichi le politiche della destra su militarizzazione(quando sai benissimo che è dovuta dall'aggressione all'ucraina e la situazione in Israele),mentre sull'tema ambientale è un semplice ricalibrare gli obbiettivi precedentemente imposti perché troppo ambiziosi e i tagli in generale sono dovuti dalle situazioni economiche disastrose dei vari paesi. Sicuramente non lo fanno per divertimento. 6:00 le tasse alte nel mio e i benefit sociali e in generale l'interventismo dello stato continuo nell'economia hanno reso il mio paese(Italia) poco appetibile per le aziende che se ne vanno e ci lasciano senza lavoro e inoltre non permettono più di tanto di premiare il merito. Cosa dovremmo fare? 6:10 molti miei amici(me e la mia ragazza compresi) vorrebbero aver la possibilità di tirar su una propria famiglia, ma economicamente è difficile, cosa c'è di sbagliato nell'aiutare la gente in ciò? 7:26 sono cose che i nostalgici fanno in Italia dal 1945, non nuove, non usarle per creare allarme. 13:20 critichi Macron per politiche dettate dalla pessima condizione economica un cui sono le finanze francesi e poi per politiche contro l'Islam, ti ricordo che la Francia come molti paesi europei è un paese ufficialmente laico credo tali politiche servano a preservare ciò.
As a foreigner who has lived in (mostly) EU countries for a very long time, let me say this: Europe has, from about the turn of the millennium until fairly recently, benefited on the international stage by marketing itself as a beacon of progressive values and inclusivity and equality and so on, but the average Joes and Janes have pretty much never wanted to stick with this program. Ask the average working adult in, say, Stuttgart, and they'll likely tell you that "racism is bad" and "foreigners aren't here to take your jobs and/or your women" are just truisms that we're told at school, but we ALL KNOW how the world really works, right? If you're lucky, they might even follow up with an anecdote about how some things under fascism in the past weren't all that bad, "just as food for thought". And that's not even touching on the incredible number of instances of racial harassment and attacks that I have experienced living here. There is a very uniquely European phrase that I have heard being said to me countless times now, pretty much every time I report something of that nature: "No way, IN OUR COUNTRY these things don't happen." or even better, "Maybe it was just a misunderstanding." Yeah, sure, they came at me with bottles and shivs and yelled the n-word at me (when I am not even black), but I am sure I must have just misunderstood the fine nuances of European culture. In other words, people here - the average working people - don't have much of a problem with fascist tendencies. The only thing they have a problem with is the ingrained taboo of being CALLED a fascist, or a racist, and losing face as a result. This is why it's shocking to so many around the world that we now see folks dressed up like brownshirts and throwing up Roman salutes in public and the police even being sometimes somewhat reluctant to do anything about it - it is shocking, genuinely, even to the people who were born and raised here. Not because of the sentiment though, rather just because they feel so free to express it so openly.
7:26 the best defo of fascism comes from mussolini himself : "Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power"...by this defo, the US has been under a fascist state for 110 out of the last 150 yrs...
So... the fact that he's trying to say it should go by a different name tells you that the two names actually mean something different. Hitler used a same tactic, literally saying outright that *his* definition of National Socialism was extremely different from the actual meaning of the term National Socialism.
The US is the largest merger of state and private interests on the planet. Every single huge US corporation is a child of the government and the government is totally working for the enrichment of said companies. One and the same, working hand in hand for stealing from the many to benefit the few.
Yeah to bad thats not what corporate means in Latin. It comes from corpus or body. It came out of Catholic politics as a position against both capitalism and socialism and proclaimed that the state and economy should work as a body does in harmony advocating class collaboration as opposed to capitalism and socialism which are both class war based politics..
Thanks for spreading awareness in a time where it is very much needed. And thanks again for all the research done, to make this masterpiece of a video.
Immigration in one place isn't necessarily like immigration in another place. Immigration in itself indeed isn't a bad thing, however it is becoming a (partially) bad thing when certain ethnicities amongst those immigrants are disproportionately not integrating into the society of the country they have moved to, and/or they are even rejecting the norms and values of the country they have moved to. Let this be more of a problem in Europe than it is in the US. The US predominantly receives Hispanic immigrants. People that in terms of norms and values are not too dissimilar to what they are like in the US, thus making it relatively easy for these people to integrate into American society. Europe mostly receives its immigrants from Africa and the Middle East, whereas especially muslims do tend to have norms and values that don't always compute well with those here in Europe, thus these people having more difficulties integrating into European society. Which leads to a set of issues that, if not addressed accordingly in a timely manner, spiral out of control. And that's what you now see back in Europe in for example the rise of the far right parties. And by the way, if immigrants are committing far fewer crimes than native born people per capita, how come prisons tend to be inhabited disproportionally more by immigrants? The police may play somewhat of a role in this, but surely that won't explain the difference completely?
1) You know how Hispanic immigrants are treated in the US? Racists will always find a scapegoat. 2) Most of those immigrants have been in Europe for decades. 3) Regarding prisons, what country are you talking about? You can't really expect statistics to be the same for all 27 EU countries.
@@JoaoSantos-ur1gg 1) In some cases, poorly. And you're right that racists will indeed always find a scapegoat. That doesn't change the fact that Hispanics generally have fairly similar takes on the societal and moral questions of life than those already in the US. 2) Fair enough. It's often at the second or third generations of immigrants where things tend to go south. 3) Obviously the results will be different in Poland, Hungary, Romania, or another country where the number of (non-western) immigrants will be relatively low. However it will apply to most Western European countries.
@@harimauindia5775 Yes indeed, it's more of a socioeconomic issue than anything else. And yet you see that some ethnicities are having a harder time climbing that socioeconomic ladder than other ethnicities for a plethora of reasons of which you could blame society for some, but of which you could most definitely also blame those certain ethnicities.
"Immigration is good" Only if that immigration comes from planes, and no from land or river, is a fact that muslims and african immigrants in europe tend to care less about the people and culture of the country they move in, also, the mayority of thouse immigrants want their culture and religion inside of europe. I think is fair for europe to want their culture protected from bad immigration
@@eVuLeX just search statistics of crime in europe by ethnicity, also if you are local, you may get a first hand view of that, i don't support violence to immigrants too but they didn't have to arrive at such scale in the first place
If I want, I can move to your country tomorrow and you can do nothing to prevent it. It's called being in the European Union and xenophobes like you have to deal with it.
3:02 Dismissing their whole agenda is exactly the reason why so many go out and vote in these insane far right parties, because all of their concerns are showed to the side as "non issues", looked down upon and belittled. You do yourself no favors by acting this way. Immigration dilutes the native culture, which many natives do not want. This is a fair opinion to have, wanting to maintain a clear sociatal culture should not be shamed. Migration to a certain extant is great, and traditionalism to a certain extent is also great. How about you aknowledge both sides, instead of demonizing a whole group of people on the political spectrum.
"Imigration dilutes native culture" And then the culture is formed by cultural exchange between ethnic groups =x. Well, at least you are not trying to fool anybody. Funny how the far center is always right leaning. You listen to both sides, to disagree with the leftist side and agree with the fascist side.
"fascist" (thumbnail is nazism, different thing) "the statistics" (shows US ones over Europe) "immigration is allways good" (while saying blacks get paid less.. and brought into the country.. to work heavy labour like farming.. starting to sound alot like 1810s America to me)
This guy keep repeating "Immigration isn't a bad thing" No bro...immigrants with no intents of ever adapting to the european lifestyle and refusing to accept anything, but their own values is definitely a bad thing.
Okay bro, go work the low-paying job that props your economy up then. Oh wait, you don't want to cause the pay is shit. Oh wait, that's capitalism's problem. Think outside the box ffs.
@@kennykenevil57 The non-Western illegal mass migrants, which is who everyone is talking about in (Western) Europe when it concerns the destructive effects of immigration, don't work whatsoever, and have proven again and again to be a net massive burden instead of contributing anything to their host countries. A burden in costs, leaching off of the welfare system, disproportionately needing healthcare due to all their inbreeding which then puts massive strain on healthcare, a burden in crime, where they are extremely overrepresented, a burden in housing, a burden by not integrating and learning the language or adopting European culture and values, and on and on. Most Europeans have little issue with work migrants, which is mostly comprised of fellow Europeans anyway, carrying out precisely the low paying work you're talking about.
I would say that is hyperbolic. If you hyperbolically make everything fascist you just empower actual fascists. Harris is certainly a neo liberal but she is not fascist.
I would say that is hyperbolic. If you hyperbolically make everything fascist you just empower actual fascists. Harris is certainly a neo liberal but she is not fascist.
Look, I'm well aware that Harris is a horrible authoritarian monster. But "the most fascist speech I've heard since Bush" is a laughable claim, considering Bush never said anything as fascist as Trump's rhetoric.
@@Lamster66 Simple. The conservatives were so corrupt, inept and discredited, the media gave up trying to hide it. The far right reform party split the right wing vote. I should point out that reform is just far right as opposed to extreme far right or fascist.
@@Lamster66The election in the UK showed a sharp ncrease in reform votes at 15% I think. Reform is fascist in the UK. Labour won because the Tories fucked up the country. The labour vote this election was an anti-tory vote. And current labour party has capitulated to the right and is squarely a right-wing party
I feel like immigration can be improved with better efforts to establish integration. Not to be confused with assimilation, it's not uncommon that immigrants will band together and rarely interact with the locals. It makes it difficult for immigrants and locals to understand one another better. I wish I knew ways to promote more interaction between the two groups.
The Roman Republic found its success by assimilating conquered cultures into their own. One did not simply because the other, they melded together to become one. One large contributor to the fall of the Roman Empire was a shift toward maintaining "Roman" culture as it was instead of assimilating with those new cultures and becoming more strict with who it allowed to become Roman. That's an oversimplification to be sure. And it's just one of the factors. But historically, we have evidence to suggest that taking efforts to safeguard your own culture only hastens the destruction of that culture. And historically, we also have evidence to suggest that tightening immigration policy also hastens the destruction of a nation.
Thing is I agree with you but I can clearly see you are an american and what I mean with that is this. Europeans don't really fear new migration what they do fear is islamisation and yes it's a real thing in Europe not the USA I know but in Europe Islam is becoming more dominant than it will ever be in the USA. And is that bad? No at first we thought not but that was our first response too freedom of religion but there are those who come here and most just don't want to adapt not really work in their new lifes they just refuse to and want everybody around them to change not the other way around. That's why the extreme anger and fear because the previous European politcians did nothing to do something about this. And Europeans are just grown tired of it. I don't agree with this but as an American you just can't understand this your country starts the wars in the middle east but most of them go to Europe not the USA..
Islamisation is not a thing in Europe, that's a far-right myth. They want you to believe that a small minority has the power to make everyone else follow their religion so that you get distracted from real problems.
@@malum9478 I think people who use the term "islamization" just have some kind of weird fetish because there's no such thing as "islamization" in Western countries. If they were actually concerned about "islamization", they'd be talking about what happened to countries such as Afghanistan due to decades of foreign intervention.
@@JoaoSantos-ur1gg it's a thing I'm not extreme right and screaming deport them all!!! But I'm saying control it and people that come here please adapt or go. And big fact yes FACT is that most of these people don't even try to adapt. We have to when we just visit their country but they don't do it in return how do I know this? Cause I have seen a lot of the world and it's cultures so no to the other persons comment too I'm not a random guy in a pub other than that person I actually know what I'm talking about that's why I say no need for mass deportation but please respect our customs as we do when we go to their country
As a European I found this video highly intersting. Please make a video about the situation in Belgium. The situation there is very special. On one hand you have the 2 Flemish nationalistic (one of them being fascist) parties gaining almost 50% of the votes and at the same time the Marxist national party is growing every year and even growing stronger than in the city where the leader of one of the two nationalist parties has been being mayor for the last 10+ years. This city (Antwerp) is also the stronghold of the fascist party. I would love if you'd make a video about several European countries including Belgium. Kind regards From a Belgian Marxist.
You don't know anything about the situation in Sweden, Sweden and became what it is after the majority left-wing party that was once the pride of Sweden (which earned it to be put in power for 30 years without interruption) betrayed the majority of its voters by starting at the end of the Cold War to apply liberal policies that led to repeated economic and social crises, the right and the extreme right (in order to take their eyes away from their own politics) then decided to blame loud and clear thanks to their media, immigration
"This idea contradicts mine, so it must be fascism! Am I right, guys??? " Also, calling the right 'far right' and the far left just 'left' just shows your bias and lack of balance in understanding political perspectives.
This channel is basically the left-wing socialist equivalent of all the radical far-right propaganda channels. Same extremism and propaganda, different side of the political spectrum.
@@Yman7120 "my daughter shouldnt have experienced that" -appearently a far right extreme message.. of a father whos daughter got gang rpd by muslims fallowing "spoils of war" part in the Quran
The graph used at 1:01 was widely criticised for the relative size of parliamentary groups not matching the numbers. But more than malice, it shows how unexpected the results were, since it seems the mistake is due to the visuals being prepared before the results were made available, with only the seats estimates being updated live.
So when are we going to admit that our privilege comes at the cost of other areas of the world's poor conditions, cheap labor and us draining their resources? We really can't act like we're not doing something evil preventing immigration. We don't really deserve this, we didn't really earn it, we just got lucky being born here and they didn't.
The contradictions are heightening at a rapid clip. It won't be long before people will have to choose between socialism and fascism. There will be no in-between.
Nobody wants an in-between, because any point in-between those means we have to revisit this exact problem again and again and again until we finally get it through our heads that fascism is the ONLY possible conclusion to a capitalist system in the long term. We fought an entire world war against fascism to prove this fact to be true.
To be fair the dial will always swing that way no matter the case, it'll depend if the centre will deal with the devil to keep it's comfort (again) or confronts it's own issues beforehand.
They taught that after the war The Nazis vanished without a trace, But battalions of fascists Still dream of a master race. The history books, they tell Of their defeat in ’45, But they all came out of the woodwork On the day the Nazi died. They said the pris’ner of Spandau Was a symbol of defeat; Whilst Hesse remained in prison, Then the fascists, they were beat. So, the promise of an Aryan world Would never materialize. So, why did they all come out of the woodwork On the day the Nazi died? The world is riddled with maggots. The maggots are getting fat. They’re making a tasty meal Of all the bosses and bureaucrats. They’re taking over the boardrooms, And they’re fat and full of pride. And they all came out of the woodwork On the day the Nazi died. So, if you meet with these historians, I’ll tell you what to say: Tell them that the Nazis Never really went away. They’re out there burning houses down And peddling racist lies. And we’ll never rest again Until every Nazi dies.
No, there is a reason. Just today morning(24.08.24, this video was published 18 hours ago), there are 3 killed and 9 injured with the knife by the arab-looking guy on the festival in Germany. This the reason, don't just say "Without any reason at all!"
Letting illegal immigrants + turning down the justice system + worsening social institutions = people want fascism = elits will gain more power and can worsen it even further if it gives an additional penny. Illegal mmigrants are not the root cause, they are one of the outcomes that leads people in "the right direction"
imagine blaming a whole diverse group of people of multitude of opinions and life experiences for a crime that was committed by one person. there's a reason why nobody likes you, europeans. because you think you're better than others, and that you're entitled
And of course, Aryan Germans have never committed atrocities far,FAR worse. Nothing happened in Liditz, Auschwitz, Birkenau, Dachau, Babi Yar, etc... Or did it?
@@sameersheriff7078 It is literally impossible for free market capitalism not to evolve into an oligarchy. Every conservative economist will agree with this statement.
@@sameersheriff7078 "crony capitalism" is cope. If you understand the basics of the system, capitalism is working precisely as intended. It just isnt meant to work for people like you and me. Stop coping, the system isnt made for you. Dont make excuses for it Also, 'free market capitalism' has been around for like... 400 years only? And yea, there has been massive growth (which leads to imperialism, hi Lenin xD), but youre saying it like before that no country ever grew at all. Growth and prosperity has happened and will happen after we're done with this bs system. You're just being miopic.
@@kisuz9853 I dunno, capitalism has been working pretty well for me. Why is the govt having unlimited power better than plenty of monopolies having lots of power?
I really understand that people trying to k*ll or do bad things to migrants is terrible and I dont support actions like this. I dont like right side parties but at the same time I think that illegal imigration can be bad for your country. Im from Poland and its just strange for me that in almost every european country that took a lot of illegal imigrants instability is very high.
Even the question is ridiculous. Right wing populist parties are not fascists. 1. They don't root for a pure white nation of ethnic germans, italians, french etc. Most of them have no problem with migration from other european states. European right wing populists are pan european - not ultranationalistic. They often speak about the "judeo-christian european culture" wich accorduing to them had to be defended against the middle eastern "invaders". 2. They are not antisemitic. On the contrary, many of these right wing parties are supporting Israel no matter what and accuse all muslims of being antisemitic. 3. They are not militaristic. In fact most of these right wingers were against support for Ukraine, even though Russia was always archenemy of every european Nazi and Ukraine was an allie of the axis forces. The "fourteen points of facism" presented here are totally arbitrary and some are downright wrong. For instance fascism never appeals to a "frustrated middle class"- they appeal to the white under class. This is their main target group. Also the rejection of modernism doesn't make you fascist and disdain for woman is also not necessarely fascistic. Fascists believe in traditional gender roles but that isn't the same as "disdain for women" as in some incel or sigma male groups or in religious fundamentalist groups, no matter if these fundamentalists are muslim, christian or jewish. What is even worse is the fact that the most important things are missing. The most important characteristics of fascism are - Führerkult (a personal cult around a leader) - Palingenesis (a higher goal that has to be archived by all means necessary) - Militarism - Antisemitism - Ultranationalism These 10 points of Jason Stanley describe exactly how right wing populism works but right wing populism is not fascism. It can lead to fascism but it doesn't has to. The USA had a right wing populist leader and the country is still not fascist yet because the institutions prevented it and because Trump is no fascist. He is a selfish idiot who doesn't believe in anything. When he realised that "Project 2025" is unpopular among voters and could cost him the election he couldn't distance himself quickly enough from it. Trump is just an opportunist, real fascists are fanatics who are often willing to die for their believes.
None of your 3 points make sense, fascism isn't defined exclusively by those 3 things. And the idea that fascists never appeal to a frustrated middle class is hilariously ignorant. A "white under class" is a vague statement that doesn't refute Eco's point. By definition if you're _middle_ class you are _under_ another class, therefor you are an under class. You seem to make a bad attempt at handwaving historically accurate characteristics of fascist ideology in an attempt to downplay fascists being fascists. Eco's list of points are *indicators* of fascism they aren't exclusive definitions of only fascism. "Fascists believe in traditional gender roles" For one, this is a meaningless statement since traditional gender roles vary WIDELY across earth and time. For two, the supposed gender roles you're referring to is that women are inherently less worthy than men and that they are only good for raising children. This is effectively describing disdain, your cowardly attempt to sugar coat it isn't working. "no matter if these fundamentalists are muslim, christian or jewish." Identifying with any of these religions do not exclude you from having fascist characteristics, this is another incoherent attempt at downplaying fascism. "The most important characteristics of fascism are" Based on what evidence is this true? Your feelings? Eco has scholarly research backing his points. "because Trump is no fascist." This further betrays how you're downplaying fascism, by calling the most blatant and out and about fascist as not being a fascist. Being a selfish idiot who doesn't believe in anything falls entirely within Eco's points or any historical fascist leader. You're not refuting the claim. And no, no historical fascist _leader_ was willing to die for their beliefs. That's why they send others to die in their stead. I suggest you stop being a coward and just come out and admit you like fascists.
Talking incorrectly about statistics. As I understand, it's not your fault, but the problem lies in how this information is presented to the public, and everyone just follows it. There was a good RUclips video about immigration and how it affects society and the economy in the EU, with much better statistics.
People here are absolutely not interested in facts and statistics. It's collective brain rot and it's scary as hell. Luckily normal people off the internet will vote according to their values and not some armchair reddit/YT communist.
The claim that modern far-right parties are simply "fascists" ignores significant differences in ideology, historical context, and political behavior. While it’s easy to use terms like "fascist" as a catch-all for nationalism or conservatism, doing so erases distinctions that are crucial to understanding both the far-right and fascism itself. Fascism, historically, was about totalitarian control, suppression of individual freedoms, militarism, and often racial hierarchies enforced by state violence. Modern far-right parties, while they can be nationalist, anti-immigration, or culturally conservative, are not advocating for totalitarian regimes or violent expansionism. Most of them operate within democratic systems, accepting the rules of elections and the idea of peaceful transfers of power. And let’s be real for a second: if you’re going to call all far-right parties "fascist," why stop there? Some modern far-left ideologies also share similarities with historical fascism in terms of suppressing dissent, controlling speech, and using mob tactics to silence opposition. Fascism isn’t a monopoly of the right-it’s an authoritarian impulse that can crop up on any end of the political spectrum when people decide that their ideology justifies crushing anyone who disagrees. What’s really ironic is the hypocrisy in how democracy is treated. If your party wins, democracy is alive and well. If the other side wins? Suddenly, democracy is "under attack." This isn’t a defense of far-right policies; it’s a critique of the double standard. The truth is, democracy only works when people accept that others have a right to win-even if their policies or ideas are ones you oppose. To label every opponent as "fascist" is not only lazy but also dangerous because it shuts down dialogue and demonizes people instead of engaging with their ideas. Ultimately, reducing these movements to "fascism" ignores the complexities of what they stand for and the broader shifts in European politics. People vote for these parties not because they want to return to 1930s-style regimes but because they feel let down by traditional parties on issues like immigration, the economy, or sovereignty. If we want to defeat bad ideas, we need to confront them on their merits, not with oversimplified slurs. --- Case Study: Brothers of Italy vs. Mussolini's Fascism Take the Brothers of Italy, for example. Under Giorgia Meloni’s leadership, they’ve become a dominant political force in Italy. Critics might point out their nationalist and traditionalist rhetoric, but to equate them with Mussolini’s fascism is to misunderstand both their actions and the historical reality of fascism. On Totalitarianism: Mussolini’s regime was a dictatorship that banned all opposition parties, censored the press, and crushed dissent. In contrast, the Brothers of Italy govern within Italy’s democratic framework, competing in free elections and sharing power with coalition partners. Their policies are subject to parliamentary debate, judicial review, and electoral accountability-hallmarks of a functioning democracy. On Militarism: Fascism glorified war and sought territorial expansion as a national goal. Mussolini famously invaded Ethiopia and aligned with Nazi Germany for global conquest. Giorgia Meloni’s platform, however, is focused on national sovereignty and protecting Italy’s borders, not imperialist ambitions or glorification of war. On State Control: Mussolini centralized economic and social control under the state, promoting a corporatist model where industries served the regime. Brothers of Italy, by contrast, advocate for lower taxes, small-business support, and reduced bureaucracy-policies that reflect right-wing populism but not the fascist obsession with total state domination. On Racial Hierarchies: Mussolini’s fascism promoted racial laws that directly targeted minorities, most notoriously Jews. Meloni’s party emphasizes cultural identity and stricter immigration controls, which, while controversial, are not rooted in racial supremacy or genocidal policies. The Brothers of Italy are undoubtedly a far-right party, but they are not a return to fascism. They reflect the frustrations of a population disillusioned with globalization and unchecked immigration, not a desire to revive authoritarian rule. Conflating the two isn’t just inaccurate; it’s an insult to those who genuinely suffered under real fascist regimes.
A highly recommended book about real fascism is "Fascism: A Warning" by Madeleine Albright. This book explores the history, characteristics, and warning signs of fascist regimes, drawing on Albright's experiences as a child fleeing Nazi-occupied Europe and her career as a diplomat. It provides historical context and discusses how the authoritarian tendencies of fascism have reappeared in modern politics. Another excellent resource is "The Anatomy of Fascism" by Robert O. Paxton. This book delves deeply into the origins, ideology, and practices of fascist movements, with a focus on Mussolini’s Italy and Hitler’s Germany. Paxton outlines what makes a regime truly fascist, separating the core elements from other forms of authoritarianism. These works are thorough and scholarly, offering insight into what fascism truly is and how it differs from modern political movements labeled as such.
I see how this video could apply to the American context, where immigration is regulated and largely based on merit. The immigration we have in Europe is not and you can't extrapolate American economic data to try to explain what's happening in Europe. If you want to understand what immigration has done for the working class in the continent please watch the video "Why Immigration Isn't Saving Europe's Economy" by Into Europe, and do so without blinkers on, and also the essay "The Left Case against Open Borders" by Angela Nagle. Also interesting is the new party founded by Sahra Wagenknecht in Germany, fully left wing but not blind to the fact that European immigration is damaging the welfare estate and the power of the working class.
And now it seems there was an agreement between Macron and Marine Le Penn to put the Republican candidate as Prime Minister, disregarding the democratic results
The left wing party retired their candidates in favor of macron in district where they arrived second to not let lepen win, allied themselves with the socialist (of wich Macron was a former minister) and refuse any proposal by the government for a prime minister from their group. They bended their asses to get pounded by Macron and got cucked, it's well deserved
@@jamessurnamepending1239 45% of knife crime by foreigners in Nordrhein-Westphalen while we have 15% foreginers in the country. Same thing with gang rape. Google it!
bro you are telling the europeans what to do even though you don't live here and clearly don't understand the problem. Stay in America and don't tell Europeans what to do.
huim being american doesn't disqualify him from understanding the issue and doing research, and you being european doesn't make you all knowing. He probably did more research than you.
@@malogibeaux4946ok let's start by saying that what this guy calls fascist is not even close to real fascism. I'll just name a few of the things he got wrong or that I disagree with cause I don't have time for that BS. He says that immigrants commit less crimes than natives which is wrong if you look at statistics (or just look at what Sweden has become). Another thing is that the hate towards illegal immigrants makes u wonder why they are so hated, hmm maybe it's because a lot of em don't have jobs and live off of taxes? maybe it's because they commit a lot of crimes? Or maybe it's because they want to create a Europe that opposes our beliefs? And just one more thing, I'm almost certain that first hand experience is far better than doing some research which he probably did from biased sources.
@@The_crusader4154 first, you didn't explain how he was wrong about fascism. Second, all the migrant thing is just not true, you cannot prove it with any statistics. Your only proof is "first hand experience" which is a nice way of saying "I saw it on the TV" and " I looked outside with my biased eye and saw a brown guy". You do not understand how your perception is constantly lying o you, just look at optical illusions.
Both your sources for immigration not committing crimes are from the US, based on US immigration. Their largest influx of immigrants are from Mexico yes? Another Christian country... Wheres the statistics that shows large groups of muslim immigrants commit lower crimes? Its odd that you choose two studies made on the other side of the ocean when talking about EU politics situation. Makes me wonder if you could find no study made in the EU that supports your claim...
4:48 there is a reason why I love Stephen Flynn if you saw the debate a question on immigration came up and he corrected Nigel farage’s lies and told everyone on national Tv why immigration was good for the economy
people from the USA really are arrogant and know nothing they think that all countries just want to become multicutlrual or something. NO we have been white ethno states for thousands of years we do not want to become the USA which is a dump. As if life is all about money it's not.
@@bobby5678-ck2tc What is "white"? A hundred years ago peopel like you thought that polish and italians were not "white". There has always been other groups in europe than the majority group (exemples include: jews, gypsies, minority religions, etc...)
@sanchoohches eh depends on the status of the home country and the other country, but it does help create new cultures, food, new versions of preexisting languages, new social veiws etc.., but it's what the people of the other and home think that also matter. Those people who view them as a threat for reasons not due to them will else them as a goat to escape reason to change and help the country. And those who don't will try and help.
@@logangonzalez-patton3121 Dude, arguiment about food is silly, I can check recepies online, or can use 2 restaurant in city, don;t need to bring millions of people that hate my and my culture and only want money so we can eat same food. What new social views can be brought to Europe from Pakistan or Syria?! Give me a break LOL
"Immigration is not a bad thing, like, in any way" -Second thought. I got two: The day after this video was posted and syrian immigrant radicalized by IS stabbed 3 people to death and 4 seriously injured 300m away from his shelter. How about housing? Immigrants take up housing, have their homes subsidised by the government (who will pay whatever price) and drive up prices for everyone else.
@@malogibeaux4946 Solingen 2024, Cologne 2015, Madrid 2004, London 2005, Paris 2015 were boogeymans?? Caliphate rallies didn't happen in Germany? Sweden doesn't have massive problem with Muslims? Taylor Swift concerts were cancelled in Austria on what ground? These are beliefs of younger Muslims in UK: "More than a third of respondents aged 18-34 said that they view Hamas positively, and over a quarter said they have a favourable view of jihad"(...) "Of Britain’s young Muslims, 59% believe it would be very or somewhat desirable to make showing a picture of the Prophet Mohammed illegal, with 33% saying that implementing Sharia law in the UK would be desirable". But no, that is the boogeyman created by TV??? You are one of the reason why people are turning towards so called "far-right".
1:30 I don't know if presenting the number of votes on the second round that way was an unconscious mistake or simply a way to manipulate the information. It would mean that there was a difference of nearly 12% of electors between the NFP and the RN. The information that is misused is that the NFP and the presidential majority indeed had to take down a lot of candidates to prevent the RN to get more seats in the assembly (another thing unsaid is that it's a very common action for a party to ask their representants to quit to prevent the cadidates of other parties it has been done over and over again over the past few decades, not an hopeless and unusual attempt to prevent the far right to obtain more seats). Nevertheless, showing this graph to demonstrate the argument of an overpowered far right is disingenuous. Since the NFP and PM both had to take down a lot of their deputies (134 for the NFP and 81 for the PM), those parties were both present in way less districts than the RN. The dynamic of a two round election changes everything. For the second vote, the RN was present in over 400 districts while the NFP had a candidate in 275 districts after 130 of their candidates withdrew from their respective areas. So yes, on the second round, the RN got over 32% of votes against 25% for the NFP, but it is not representative of the votes of the french population since the left wing voters of 130 districts did not have the choice but to vote for the central party (and since the presidential majority had to withdraw 80 of their candidates, which forced the usual centrist to vote for another party too). If we want an accurate representation of the population's choice, we have to look at the 1st round results, in which, the RN and the NFP "only" had 1.2% of difference. It is just too easy to present the information the way it is done here but before giving huge number it's important to understand what they represent and why they turned out that way. The far right did get a majority of votes and it's number of electors keeps growing but not as impressive as a lot of medias try to portay.
@@CknWngMn Because obvious clash of civiliastions will happen, like with the Islam in Europe. Multi-kulti is a myth, stronger cultures will destroy the weaker ones. Also, some cultures are not willing to adapt t others and are lookin to dominate.
@@CknWngMn Because cultures do not mix, stronger cultures will take over the weak cultures. Some cultures want to conquer, plain and simple. Why every European country has a problem with Muslim imigration, high crime, rape gangs, etc?! Is that also europan fascicst fault?
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Aren't you tired of being tricked into fighting each other by the rich ruling class? I sure as hell am.
slave mind is so addictive brother once ur in then its no way out of it !!!!
divide and conquer
There will always be a divide and conquer strategy unfortunately.
No wonder wokeism dei is pushed so hard 😅
Are you implying people who are trying to fight fascism and right wing extremists are fighting on the same level?
What are we supposed to do?
Just watch as huge parts of the population turn neo-nàzì?
We got fascism again before gta 6
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Facism 2: Electric Boogaloooooo 🤦♂️
Before Half Life 3 and Mario Kart 9
"First as tragedy, then as farce."
fascism 2: here we go again!
The story is the same in every country: people vote left, the leaders double down in neoliberalist policies, and then people vote right out of rage.
Well, "left".
you cant vote for leftists, the electoral system is left-proof
its only libs vs conservatives
Ronald Reagan and Milton Friedman were both rightwingers who believed in neoliberalism
Not out if rage. Nobody votes right because they were angry the left made a better country for us all. The left destroys Europe, that is why we don't vote for it.
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The scariest thing is that with each day that passes if you have an eye on the news and you know some history you realise that the times we are living in right now are oddly similar to the ones from the 1930s wich is something we all should be concerned of
We shouldn't. World war is slowly crawling to us anyway
Yep, the great depression, war in ukraine (germany demanding everything in the 30s), people turning leaning into far-right and far-left. Why dont we ever learn from history...
@@nekrokodylREAL I think he was referring more to weirmarch Germany but I'm not sure.
@@braxtongay9983It's WEIMAR Germany
@@nekrokodylREAL we don’t learn from history because people that are hardliners on either side don’t learn the history of what was. Facism, communism, political divide between ideologies, is all the failure of proper understanding at the hands of the rich that want to keep people under essentially indentured servitude
As leftist german politician Gregor Gysi once said: "If you want more social justice, you have to look up instead of looking to your sides!"
Gysi can fuck himself for what he did to the GDR tho
Too bad Gysi is a liberal
My favourite quote whenever someone Asks me about my political views. When you are able to explain that the left and the right See the same Problem(s), only their solution is different, you can have a actual diskurs and find solutions/compromise.
@@johanneswasgehtsiedasan5406 based pfp
yeah right😂
Turning? Bro, we invented that shit 😅
Exactly
Actually a lot of early European facist leaders took great inspiration from the treatment of black people in the States.
This guy gets it!
@@Notapizzathiefthose are still English origins
@@Notapizzathieflol, you don't gotta be racist towards black people to be facist. They can be mutually exclusive. If anything, a lot of that behavior came from the crusades.
Dunno about Europe, but here in India its almost all Fascist under Modi government.
Sadly, we once were a Democracy and his paid IT cell will come ranting in the comment section if they see this.
Absolutely
@@rohanxdavis hi! love your videos
I wish you the best in surviving the struggle my friend. Seeing Modi now use the Bangladeshi destabilisation to drum up anti-Islam hate is vile
Yeah i see alot of comments from india supporting the colonial land stealing apartheid state, though that could have something to do with the perceived "common enemy" narrative that has been spread worldwide. It aint easy being surrounded by stupid. Hang in there comrade ✊🏼
Again that bullshit crying that India is turning into 'dictatorship '😂you congress paid it cell never get tired of spreading this dictatorship propaganda😂
dear mr american, u are missing many points
He makes propaganda videos, that’s why. (I’m a leftist too but i can’t stand him anymore)
@@MrOvipare I mean yeah, communists go on about "read the book bro" someone reads the jewish question and they call it "not being fair bro, not fair bro". but at the same time like Second Thought.. professing to be wise, he didnt notice he mentioned fascists while showing the nazi symbol.. its just an insult to him, something to not be understood as thats bad, either causu hes afraid of being wrong about it or being pulled in easily by a new ideology.
Justice for Magdeburg
This chump was talking about the immigration in France and then pulled out American statistics to make it look right🤦🏻♂️
Idk if they gonna do fascism or not but the French do know how to protest/riot, gotta respect the grind
Thank you kindly. We try.
@@itzwaluigitime8678Damn! You make it look way easier than it is.
@@CybernerdShua iunno man our police is tough but yours seems pretty unhinged
@@itzwaluigitime8678That's a good point!
No they don’t after both revolutions they where worse off than before
4:20 Talks about how good immigration to europe is and cites a paper relating to US immigration.
Because this is american media who are focused on propaganda for Europe
That paper is most likely B.S. as well.
@@philipthecow no, it’s really not. countless experts from all sides of social science, economics, politics, etc. have all proved it. it’s up to you if you want to believe the facts or not.
@@rni4069 Biased "experts" can write papers about studies all day that ignore key things that a person picks up on from everyday life. Thus an "expert" is no better than the average guy.
While immigration undoubtedly grows the economy in terms of raw numbers experience suggests it's usually going to lower the quality of life for the people living there. For one, there's obviously less land per person. Other metrics such as culture are far more subjective and unlikely to be captured by "studies" in any sort of unbiased manner.
@@philipthecow you just proved that you have no idea what an expert is OR a study. every single thing that you mentioned has also been studied. extensively. you just have this idea that experts are all some random woke people who only study things that would support woke policies and will make up shit to prove their points. newsflash, that’s not how the world works. at all. YOU couldn’t publish a study no matter what because you’re not an expert with extensive education and knowledge. that’s why no one will listen to your random observations of society and immigration. because they’re not supported by anything. they’d rather listen to people who spend their whole life studying and figuring this shit out. don’t be afraid of academia, it won’t bite.
As marshal Zhukov once said: "We liberated the Europeans from Fascism and they won't ever forgive us for it"
Exactly. Good reminder.
Zhukov is a fucking fascist by this guys standards
But at the same time, soviets seemingly failed harder at denazifying their part of the country: AfD voter share is significantly higher in former East Germany.
@@johndowson1852the USSR failed to denazify GDR? More like Allies failed to do so to the FRG
@@johndowson1852 ruclips.net/video/J5AlxcmYX2s/видео.html
Oh really? Who has been the one pushing anti-communism propaganda in East Germany in the last 30 years then?
Please dont compare the U.S. situation to the European ever again🙏🙏
Why ?
It's very comparable...
In Europe fascist can be much more mask off because they can have their party... The republicans have more power, but have to be more hidden
I am sorry is it wrong for two extremely fucked political landscapes to be compared? Nah tho seriously let the guy compare what he likes, so long as his reasoning is solid and valid.
@@markener4316 when it comes to crime rate per notonality you can not compare the EU with the U.S you cant say ohh but in america the mexicans do less crimes. because it isnt mexicans that immagrate to europe.
@@markener4316 Except his reasoning is not solid and valid. You cannot just take data from the US and expect it translates into the same thing in Europe. It is not just two extremely fucked political landscapes being compared, he talks mostly about immigration and the profiles of immigrants are wildly different in the United States and in Europe thus contributing to different results(e.g. crime stats), so his reasoning is flawed.
Sorry but there's no nuance here if you're anti immigrant you're a racist freak and either know or are in denial.
"Fascism is the logical result of the fact that the form of private ownership of the means of production can progress no further and must create violent crises, stagnation, and decay. Only the social organization of production can sanely organize production, and this can only come through social revolution. Fascism is an inevitable result of capitalism and its decay if the social revolution is delayed."
- R. Palme Dutt (1936, Fascism And Social Revolution)
Love this book
@Mayak_Kommunizm see no one understands when u put it like that except the people that already understands 😂
@@DRS659I don't think they spend much time exploring competing perspectives.
But I don't know many anti-rev MLs who do that either, so..
@@Krack2805 haha sorry. But a summary is still better than none.
It's interesting how all the information about what fascism is comes from non-fascist sources. Consider what fascist leader Benito Mussolini has to say: "Modernity is the enemy of all that is human. The worker is an animal. He has lost his humanity. He has lost his will to live. The worker is a machine, and modernity has turned him into one. Fascism will save us from this nightmare."
-Diritto al lavoro (the right to work) 1932 speech.
> speaks about Europe
> only cites studies about the US
If you want some actual research about the topic, watch Into Europe's video about immigration IN EUROPE. Spoiler alert: It's not the same as in the US and all immigrants are NOT the same.
They are just delusional as they always are they think we have something about black christians and etc , when in fact we are pretty chill to them as long as you are a good immigrant and are paying taxes then I am more than happy to welcome you into Europe but the issue is that they who are coming each day are not !
alright. please educate us in these 'different' immigrants. show us your boogeyman
@@jordyjohnathan5123 Migrants from other EU countries and migrants on a work visa contribute to the economy and pay more money in taxes than they consume in social benefits. Asylum seekers on the other hand are oftentimes unemployed for years, living exclusively on social benefits, especially women.
If you want to know more, you should check out Into Europe's video on the topic. He cites a lot of studies that talk about Europe, not the US, since he's not a quack.
@@Leiwanderer Into Europe is also a Right Wing hack.
His very own studies and examples disprove his point especially towards the end of that video where Japan is shown to be an even more miserable failure for economic growth compared to Europe due to their xenophobic immigration policy.
Towards the end he talks more about how Immigration damages "Social Cohesion" more than anything. (Which is just a dogwhistle for White Majority)
@@Leiwanderer Into Europe is also a rightist hack.
His very own studies and examples disprove his point especially towards the end of that video where Japan is shown to be an even more miserable failure for economic growth compared to Europe due to their immigration policy.
At the end he talks more about how Immigration damages "Social Cohesion" more than anything. (Which is just a dogwhistle for Demographic Majority)
Immigration is needed to support the workforce, but saying immigration is NEVER bad is just as shortsighted as saying immigration is ALWAYS bad. It is a complex thing that needs to be balanced. This video is lacking the usual critical unbiased reporting im used to from this channel
Precisly my take
I have zero problem with immigration so long as its regulated and any bad immigrant is emmidiatly send away from where they came from
Leaving the door wide open for all is asking for trouble. Much like feeding animals eventually if you dont give any they can become pissed
@@beerten202doesn't sending "bad" immigrants away cause other problems too?
1. Not every place immigrants come from is safe.
2. If you are talking about people that do violent crimes, I don't think they are going to stop doing that once they are back in their home country, right? So sending them back doesn't help if you think about it globally.
Maybe I am wrong on that, don't have any data, those are just thoughts.
@@beerten202 Then you're not socialist.
@@beerten202 Go vote for the far right
@@beerten202 where did you see that the door was "wide open"?
"Fascism is rising in Europe!"
**shows US sources**
Besides AfD every popular party in Europe is conservative. Second Thought is not very thoughtful breadtube "muh fascism" channel.
Yes thank you this video isnt just wrong its propaganda
@@azelucy1798 seek debunking channel, such as Mentis.
keep coping.
@@Gabokor-76 well the channel is america based and america is the number 1 propaganda power sooo who knows ...
Yeah, it's getting worse. The Netherlands also took a swing even further to the right, and our government has been led by right-wing parties for a while now, even if they were nowhere near as extreme. It's quite simple, really. Capitalism is failing humanity on all fronts, but instead of blaming capitalism and the exploitation it depends upon, people point towards "outsiders" and "the left", and thus the country takes a turn to "the right".
Sad reality is "the left" requires a deep understanding of context and nuance to explain why left-wing policies should be implemented, and most people just can't be bothered with context and nuance. So they try to find an easy solution instead, unwilling to admit that these "easy solutions" are the real problem.
I can't believe the right in Nederland justify their past colonization and refuse to acknowledge the violence they committed in the past.
so its pretty useless if people in genreal want easy solutions.
The Netherlands has been ruled by right-wing parties since the Eighties. Even our so-called Labour Party is right wing. They do absolutely nothing for the labourers. The sad fact is that for those who are left-wing, there is simply no party to vote for. We can "choose" between right, farther right, or ultra right.
@@wouter.de.ruiter I'm sorry, but that's just not true. We can argue whether or not the left is left enough, but suggesting that parties such as GroenLinks, now merged with PVDA, SP and Denk are right-wing is just disingenuous. You don't need to be an outright communist party in order to be left-wing.
It's really not great. Limburg and Venlo in the south also has a lot of elements grafting their faith further into our already pretty 'normalised' right-leaning stances.
Wish you the best friends
3:00 how is immigration always okay? When infrastructure hasn't been built and housing is in short supply how is this okay? Billionaires want massive immigration to drive down labour costs and increase the pool of unemployed people competing for limited jobs. The destruction of urban environments and the removal of parklands in my city is a direct outcome of unprecedented immigration numbers. Traumatised people from the Middle East dumped here really struggle with culture shock too. So is all immigration really a good thing?
Finally someone speaking some sense and they wont even work, theyll just benefit from social programs without contributing anything to anyone.
@@Luuucaz69 They only thing they contributed to so far is the rise of crime and violence. I dont pay taxes so the money can facilitate some useless buffoons who would rather shank me than adapt to the local environment.
"Traumatized people from the Middle East..." Traumatized by who? 😅😬
@@ganthrithor traumatised by US imperialism of course
Homie, it wasn't just US bombs and boots in other countries. 😂
Macron being so neoliberal makes me feel secondhand embarrassment for France.
we got this mf twice somehow.
a lot of people vote for him because of a soft propaganda, and the rest vote against marine lepen.
And as a Frenchman I can only say I share the same embarrassment for my country
Well. add on all of the first world countries, since it is not just France
@@itzwaluigitime8678 And yet, lots of other countries in poorer regions envy what you have. You have no idea that not everything is bad, and you live in a developed economy. Maybe when you experience REAL problems you can compare what you face now and find that it is negligible
@@pieterduplessis6906 ok bro "it's worse elsewhere and we should be happy with what we have" is exactly the loser mentality that pushes people to kindly stay in their place and ABSOLUTELY not revolt against every injustice everyone including them face to some degree, gtfo with that typa speech will you ? Not being a third world country is NOT an excuse to not stand up.
This video is wrong on so many levels.
1.)Firstly, most of the statistics you showcase, such as the one about crime differences between immigrants and natives or the one about contributing to wages, are from the US. That is just stupid considering this video is focusing on Europe that has a wildly different immigration situation than the United States. That statistic is just untrue in terms of European immigration. To disprove your claims I will mostly use Sweden as an example, a country that was once regarded as a heaven on earth, low poverty and crime, with a very high HDI.
So we have Sweden where immigrants, particularly from the Middle East and Africa, are significantly overrepresented in crime statistics. A study covering 2002 to 2017 found that 58% of criminal suspects were immigrants, with even higher percentages for serious crimes like murder and robbery.;
Murder, Attempted Murder, Manslaughter: *Immigrants were suspects in 73% of these cases.*
Robberies: *70% of suspects were immigrants.*
A 2020 analysis by the Crime Prevention Research Center found that every 1% increase in Sweden's immigrant population was associated with a 3.6% rise in the homicide rate.
In correlation with uncontrolled immigration Sweden, as of 2024, has the *SECOND HIGHEST* amount of rapes per a 100k people IN THE WORLD, such a number was impossible to even imagine before.
Also, if you want search up the Cologne(a city in Germany) New Year Eve rapes. It was very a hush hush situation where the mainstream media and police tried to protect immigrants who sexually assaulted thousands of women in one night.
2.) While immigration CAN be good(definitely not always true as you claim), illegal immigration should be stopped at any cost.
Over the 10 years from 2012 to 2022, about 41 million people immigrated to the European Union, and of those about 3.8 million, over 9%, are estimated to have done so illegally.
3.) It is also untrue that immigrants contribute to higher wages, another statistic you seemed to take from the US. They drain money from social welfare and do not contribute to higher wages, as showcased in the following examples;
A 2020 report from the Danish Ministry of Finance indicated that non-Western immigrants had an employment rate of about 58%, compared to 82% for native Danes. This lower employment rate among immigrants contributes to their higher dependency on social welfare and less contribution to the tax base.
The German Institute for Economic Research found in 2021 that non-EU immigrants had an employment rate of around 55%, compared to 75% for native Germans.
The Migration Advisory Committee in the UK reported in 2020 that a 10% increase in the proportion of immigrants in the labor force reduced wages for native low-skilled workers by about 2%.
4.) If you have any questions I will do my best to answer in the comments since this comment is already too long I will stop with disproving the false claims in this video here.
Honestly the immigration is good article he got is honestly far from the truth in my eyes. Plenty of illegal immigrants cause murder and partake in the drug trade. Our southernmost state of Texas had to reinforce the Mexican border themselves because our government is ran by the same generation that are skeptical of cellphones. Although I agree that racism is bad just because we don't want immigrants doesn't mean we are racist.
...how about convicts instead of suspects?
@@heartache5742exactly, and in the uk case it’s because the tories halted economic growth, meaning there was less money to go around and when the immigrants came, the tories blamed it on them instead of their handling of economical issues
Thank you finaly someone with a brain 🎉
1) If a study done in the US demonstrates that the boiling point of water is 100C, do you think we need a different study done in Europe to determine whether the boiling point of water is 100C in Europe too?
If you don't think so, then your criticism here is incoherent. Just cuz Europe has a different "climate situation" than the US, does not negate factual consequences of specific actions.
Similarly, studies done in the US about immigration (the ones I've seen at least) do not rely on the specific system of immigration the US has.
Also you only cited *suspects* not *convicted* people. Your numbers can just as easily be explained via bigoted profiling, they do not prove what you think they prove.
There is no evidence of anywhere in Europe the police "tried to protect" would-be assaulters, you've just bought in to empty right wing talking points.
2) This makes no sense. Illegal immigration makes up a minute portion of virtually any country's annual immigration numbers.
Not to mention that them being illegal doesn't harm society, which makes your suggestion that it must be stopped "at any cost" completely ridiculous.
3) Firstly, see 1). The studies being done in the US do not mean the conclusions are only valid in the US. This isn't how (economic) studies work.
Your cited data from Denmark/Germany does not support the point you were trying to prove. Even if a specific sub-group of immigrants (you conveniently left out overall immigrants) rate is lower, this does not logically then suggest that immigrants overall "do not contribute to higher wages", or even that specific sub-group. This is a non sequitur.
Whereas your data from the UK is at least trying to support the claim, it too is cherry picked and therefor invalid.
It can both be true that low skilled workers get lower wages as a result of a 10% increase in immigration, as well as that overall workers get an increase in wages (or at least no reduction).
I think its clear you've bought in to right wing lies and didn't stop to critically think about what they were telling you.
Most people would choose fascism if it's fairly easy to do. People want simple solutions, and the fascists have a bag full of them. They just want someone to handle everything for them.
That is what makes me hopeful though. The majority of people are not politically active, they will accept whatever system they live under. I hope that after a revolution most of the people will just keep going on living their lives and the right opposition will not be absolutely overwhelming.
@MCDreng That's pretty much what history shows us. The problem is, revolution is a rather hierarchical beast, and leads to more hierarchy. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.
@@ernststravoblofeld the new boss (Soviet Union) was not even CLOSE to the old boss (Russian Empire) and to say so is laughable.
@@ernststravoblofeld mao's popularity was literally based on his opposition to heirarchy, you best study some real theory and history comrade.
@@stayphrosty And yet, who was in charge?
The Patriots for Europe website is the perfect analog to far-right movements. All colorful imagery and bluster with absolutely no substance to its underlying purpose.
All colorful to hide the psychopathy of violence and bigotry.
The EU is a neoliberal technocrat dictatorship and the establishment "left" abandoned fighting for the workers and became neolibs as well so the fascist turn was totally predictable and maybe even planned.
As a leftist hungarian, that entire "thing" along with its party members, is our shame. Sorry, world.
@@turkizno *As a leftist you should be ashamed for ruining our country since 1990 and before
The exact same story with the uk reform party’s “manifesto”- it literally read like a PowerPoint made by and for 14 year olds
I love all these early comments of Europeans self-reporting to demonstrate the point of fascist policies being normalized.
It's so funny, lmao. Agreed.
Its so openly fascist its both funny and scary.
They taught that after the war
The Nazis vanished without a trace,
But battalions of fascists
Still dream of a master race.
The history books, they tell
Of their defeat in ’45,
But they all came out of the woodwork
On the day the Nazi died.
They said the pris’ner of Spandau
Was a symbol of defeat;
Whilst Hesse remained in prison,
Then the fascists, they were beat.
So, the promise of an Aryan world
Would never materialize.
So, why did they all come out of the woodwork
On the day the Nazi died?
The world is riddled with maggots.
The maggots are getting fat.
They’re making a tasty meal
Of all the bosses and bureaucrats.
They’re taking over the boardrooms,
And they’re fat and full of pride.
And they all came out of the woodwork
On the day the Nazi died.
So, if you meet with these historians,
I’ll tell you what to say:
Tell them that the Nazis
Never really went away.
They’re out there burning houses down
And peddling racist lies.
And we’ll never rest again
Until every Nazi dies.
I can’t discern who’s worse on that front, Europeans or Americans. The amount of openly genocidal rhetoric I’ve seen from my fellow Americans about trans people, immigrants, Palestinians, etc. is scary.
Solve the problems in your country. In Europe it's ours to decide.
Look, im almost always on your side on any issue. But saying that "[the negativ sentiment against migrants] is based on nothing" is spitting in the face of those who have had bad experiences with them, like in cologne a few years back.
Safe to say you lost a subscriber.
@AreigelSjtols and you're making everything about race. Can't you try to make this about class? No?
Poland has had a bad experience with Ukrainians. Poland struggles more because of people from that country. Poles complain a lot. Who try to make a business because of competition and Ukrainians with money. But also workers because prices rise and less workplaces or flats at good prices. You know that they are all white? They also misbehave sometimes or want to be treated special. But are those people the real reason? Or the system itself and those who gain or try to gain on it? Bad social institutions. You always could be in their shoes. On their place. You would not behave as you are. Is not the same as from your current perspective.
JT doesn't need racists.
I've had bad experiences with Germans. Therefore, all Germans must be forcibly deported to Germany. A reasonable opinion.
LOL you're a brigading right-winger who just invaded this channel because your best Nazi bro linked this video on their Discord.
Not quite "all across the UK": these protests were limited to England and Northern Ireland, and there among the unionists. Wales and Scotland had, at most, minor events where the counter-protestors vastly outnumbered the anti-immigration groups. This seems predominately to be an English problem, which unfortunately overshadows the other three nations.
Scotland is staunchly antifascist 🏴🏴 even folks here who wouldn’t self describe as being on the left would still mobilise against any fringe fascist movement
Scotland is pretty cool. I'm sure they have their own problems, but still pretty cool.
i mean, england has had counter protests to the anti immigration protestors
@@caseyjones5145better than England for sure (I'm English)
Why? Because they are being victimized by foreigners
I would have loved for you to pick out sources actually showing the numbers for Europe instead of the US - not because I disagree or anything, but because as a European, I would've loved to have some facts to point towards when discussing these topics
I have lived in Italy for 10 years now I can say that Italy is almost gone totale on fascism
the problem is that the statistics from europe are hard to find, the only country who publishes really specific information about the economical impact of foreigners discriminating by region/country of origin is denmark, and based on that they have the most strict inmigration policy in the EU. This video has information about Europe ruclips.net/video/mNZ67cVp6ic/видео.html it is way less biased and manipulaive than second thought's video, who also dont have a word about the left coalition wining just with the help of an strategic alliance with the evil neoliberals from macron block
*in English.
The German statistics are very detailed
@@MeatBread003 bruh, check the12th dispositon of the constitution and let me know about any law or article that favourites fascism.
A little fun fact about French politics: Jean-Marie Le Pen, Marine Le Pen's father, has been pushed away from the party by his own daughter due to him being a bad look during the phase of de-demonization, most notably because of his numerous anti-semitic and h0locaust denial comments (that actually got him convicted for hate speech), as well as his affiliation to actual n4zis he founded the party with. And THIS MAN is being labeled "the man who was right too early" by some French media... the same man who was ejected from his party for being too openly discriminatory towards the people who aren't the current far-right scapegoat
It tells you all, they all know that the party's mentality hasn't evolved, hasn't gotten "less extreme", they know it's a facade and yet it somehow works...
The halo and horn effect
This is quite hypocrite as jews in france openly call themselves antisemite ( if you search a bit on youtube you can find compilation of it ), “massacreur” (slaughterer), openly say they come to france only for money and that french peoples should have theirs throats slit on the spot and that “islam is the broom of israel”, openly call for the genocide of palestine (and also it's eradication - in theirs own words -) call palestinians a cancer and complain about “the poison of democracy” and “how everyone should be united by one goal and ideology”; then they openly allow azov into israel and allow them to pray to the wall (with barren chest exposing theirs tattoos too) and become “jews” ( yet to keep theirs nazi imagery) (also israeli soldier love to upload picture of themselves holding nazi flag ); There is also a jew that did a carbon tax fraud, and he bragged on “touche pas a mon poste” that jews control the judicial system, he also did a nasty “joke” on how he “steal from the rich” as a reference to the christian bible and how it states that “christian are rich, but they do not know it”, in fact jews in france quite often bash the bible or say it is nonsense (you can find compilation of it).
Oh another example is that there was a french jewish mayor (therefore paid by french peoples taxes money )who stated “i do not care about retirement ( of french peoples), i care about israel”. Another example is how they had the french president celebrate the hanukkah at the elysee and light it even though the french government is supposed to be separated from religion ( of course it's a lie as it is profoundly freemasonic and jewish at its core , even the french national anthems is a hymn from a jewish song )
Another quite impressive example is netanayuh drone strike in france and how he went here and said “we cannot allow terrorist in our territory” implying that france is israel property / territory.
Another example is emmanuelle wargon a jew who was the minister of the ecological transition, and she stated “the nonsense of the individual house” while she own a million-euro house in a rich quarter.(she of course meant non “elite” do not deserve to own houses). So your stuff is reverse accusation, french politics is already profoundly facist at its core, the idea is that politicians / rapecultist are God incarnated on earth and above the laws, that they can do whatever they want, that accordign to theirs own word they are “sacred”, that theirs children's are betters and need to go to private schools, that they are “the Gods” and that the non them / peoples who disagree with them are “les inutiles”.(the useless). The le pen are just a boogeyman as they eat in the pot like the others, an artificial scapegoat. So of course peoples can easily be manipulated as it is true that jews hold tremendous power over france , have special status that allows them quasi infinite hate speech and genocide speeches, are part of the “sacred” “Gods”, but they themselves are just a branch of rape cultism.
This is basically how all the European far right parties operate. Most of them are steeped in generations of Nazis or Fascists, but adopt plausible-deniable rhetoric to cover that up, and people are either ignorant or flat out don't care because all these 3rd generation Nazis publically claim to hate the same people they do.
@@QWONIE?
The halo effect is when your judgement on someone is impacted by the groups that surrounds the person, the horn effect is when your judgement is impacted by a single negative or positive characteristic.
The halo effect does not apply here for the RN does not surround the LePen family they are part of it, they are the leaders of it actually, so it's direction is a direct indicator of the LePens moral values.
The horn effect also doesn't really apply since Jean Marie has been condemned multiple time for hate speech, toward different groups it is not unjustified to consider him an hateful bastard
Speaking as a South African we have a lot of experience with xenophobia, and mob justice. The fundamental cause is a loss of trust in the police and the courts to do their jobs.
The British riots can be seen in a lot of ways as a signature failure of conservative politics. Under the Tories, the police were defunded - this was part of Theresa May's legacy when she had that portfolio.
It is significant that Rotherham was one of the flashpoints for the riots - that is part of the legacy of the events that led to the Rotherham Report, in which it was found that police didn't want the bad PR that would come from prosecuting Islamic rape gangs that prostituted British children.
It is not correct, or helpful to claim that this is all based on nothing, because it provides no means of addressing the underlying problems that led to those riots.
It also fails to account for a very important lesson from Rotherham - that the right does not deliver on its core promises. The right aren't particularly good on law enforcement, the conservative approach on immigration appears entirely ineffective at moderating issues that come from immigration.
Indeed it is almost like cutting social services for younger, working populations and treating them as cheap labor to be exploited or cheap campaign bogeymen does not in fact result in safer societies.
I'm glad to see a fellow South African understanding the formation of fascism better than the Europeans in this chat.
We have our own problems in our country. I know that we as a nation is exploited for our labour by the West.
@@OkamiZone by yourselves. not the west, is that what Julius Malema told you as he killed "the bread basket" that fed africa? or in other words white people who dared feed his people?
Rotherham was not a flashpoint for these riots. The real reason behind them was the tragic incident where a Black Christian man killed three young white girls-not anything to do with Rotherham. Now, let's talk about the hypocrisy. When Lucy Letby, a white nurse, killed babies in a hospital, no one rioted. When white British groomers target children, the same people stay quiet. This selective outrage is telling.
The core issue behind these riots was the misinformation that falsely blamed a Muslim. Figures like Tommy Robinson, Andrew Tate, and Nigel Farage were spreading these false claims. It’s frustrating that some people are drawing conclusions without understanding the real reasons for the unrest. If you truly cared about your country, you wouldn't be out looting stores or damaging local businesses/houses.
What did the riots achieve? Nothing. They didn’t help anyone, not the people who were rioting, nor the communities they claim to despise so much. At the end of the day, it’s just another example of divide and conquer. The wealthy benefit from the chaos, while the most vulnerable fall for it. Those at the bottom continue to suffer while the rich profit.
@@jamesclarkmaxwell-v2n sports? What about reparations for how the West colonized and destroyed third world countries?.
@@jamesclarkmaxwell-v2nUK's official dish is literally Indian food
I've noticed on the ground they're talking about EU in national terms. "Protect the borders/culture/people." They went from euro skepticism a few years ago and wanting nothing to do with it, to rallying around it as an identity and political block. Pretty fascinating, if somewhat ironic.
The realization that no one else gives a damn about our Europeans values, so we had to start protecting it.
@@cst5277From what? European countries are strong, what could possibly threaten its values?
@@cst5277 What values? European nations are not a monolith. Stop speaking for everyone as if you know anything.
It's a logical progression of the European idea, and a testament to the fact how much of Europe is actually made up of immigrants. Nearly a third of the people in my hometown are foreigners, and two thirds have some kind of migrant background. And a lot of those are the most ardent supporters of the far right's anti-MENA racism.
It's not too different from how in US history, Irish and Italian Americans went from being the targets of racism and classism to being active and gleeful participants in racist discrimination.
@@kennykenevil57 Yes, they are. Europeans are far closer to each other than they realize.
European Fascism making a comeback is an inevitable outcome considering the history of Europe.
They taught that after the war
The Nazis vanished without a trace,
But battalions of fascists
Still dream of a master race.
The history books, they tell
Of their defeat in ’45,
But they all came out of the woodwork
On the day the Nazi died.
They said the pris’ner of Spandau
Was a symbol of defeat;
Whilst Hesse remained in prison,
Then the fascists, they were beat.
So, the promise of an Aryan world
Would never materialize.
So, why did they all come out of the woodwork
On the day the Nazi died?
The world is riddled with maggots.
The maggots are getting fat.
They’re making a tasty meal
Of all the bosses and bureaucrats.
They’re taking over the boardrooms,
And they’re fat and full of pride.
And they all came out of the woodwork
On the day the Nazi died.
So, if you meet with these historians,
I’ll tell you what to say:
Tell them that the Nazis
Never really went away.
They’re out there burning houses down
And peddling racist lies.
And we’ll never rest again
Until every Nazi dies.
Far-right means people wants less migration simple !!!!
Insert joke about Hitler particles and Yakubian apes
Fr though, it’s disturbing but not surprising unfortunately. Empires still want to be empires.
Wasn't the concept of a European Union first thought up by Oswald Mosely, the british fascist? 🤔
Fascism never left for long. It came back in 1948. The core of facism comes from pleasing arms producers and trying to hide class divide behind nationalism.
Czech Republic mentioned let's goooo 🇨🇿 Even though far right is rising in my country, the real problem is our neoliberal government doing austerity politics which is already ruining future of our country.
And also our left being non-existent as a force of revolugion, because the communist party (KSČM) has become filled with opportunists and doesnt have any other agenda other than "Russia good, America bad and we dont like migrants". And are using the name communist, just to get support from the old people that think theyre gonna turn time back to the "good old days"
I just LOVE how its consistently the neoliberals that are no fucking help at all and are the ones letting conditions for the people get worse.
... Neoliberalism IS far right.
co to kecáš za nesmysly.. jediná skutečně "silně" pravicová (spíše populisticky ideologistická..) strana podílející se na aktuálním politickém dění v ČR je SPD a to pouze jakožto člen koaliční opozice..
@@luk.laz93 Didn't you get the memo? Everything is turbo super-duper-far right unless it wants governement in every aspect of our lives.
I think you're missing the European dimension of the immigration issue. Most of your referenced studies on it were also conducted in America and are not necessarily applicable to Europe. The idea that immigration is a unilaterally good thing and immigrants cause no issues may be true for the US, but it's demonstrably untrue for Europe. Statistically speaking Muslim immigrants in Europe do commit more crime for instance. That doesn't mean we should be profiling them all based on that, but it's still true. What's also true is that in Denmark it's been shown that MENA immigrants are a net tax drain for the state.
This is important to acknowledge because if we argue on premises that just aren't true, people will notice the truth and they will distrust everything else you say too. Similarly if an argument relies on false premises, it isn't very credible.
A lot of immigrants have to cross an ocean to get there, meaning no one is crossing on flimsy boats. The people who can make it to the US at all are generally already financially better off, and often well educated. Immigration is also much more controlled as a result. Basically the only uncontrolled illegal immigration occurs from Mexico, and it's not especially difficult for Mexicans or Latin Americans to integrate into American society. Gone are the days in Europe as well when anyone would seriously complain about "Polish plumbers", and the recent Ukrainian refugees have caused no problems nor provoked strong reactions either.
At the same time, America has the advantage of being an English speaking country and a lot of people already speaking English, not to mention America projecting immense cultural influence and everyone being at least somewhat Americanised. Furthermore it's a country which treats its idea of nationality and national identity as a creed and the foundational mythos of which is on some level an "immigrant country". European countries all have their own language, which may or may not be spoken or learned by recent arrivals. Furthermore Europe is made up of nation states, where "nation" is implicitly understood to refer more or less to a people of a common language and ancestry, at least that is how these nation states were generally founded. While it may be positive to try and change that perception, people can have intense emotional reactions to that. The first step to reforming an entire national culture and identity is understanding it. Simply ignoring it is going to result in violence.
Just the beginning of your comment proves your racism and right wing or far right wing stand. We have the same in France ... Based on nothing but your own biases. There are studies that proves your wrong. But you'll say this is leftist militant studies ...
Oh and the crime stats are in the US not Europe. It's a net increase in Europe.
Immigrants have been statistically proven to be less likely to commit crimes or claim benefits.
Here in Sweden it has almost doubled in certain areas.
And how has that affected you? Did you get robbed or something?
@@flaxxi3 it doesn't have to affect him, if crime is up it's up, are you gonna wait till someone robs YOU before you do something about it??
@@elizabethstart7466 same with some immigrant groups, in some European countries, having a negative impact on social security their entire lives.
"Military spending" you know, russia exists. That might be a problem
The Fact That so little people are aware of this shows that we are standing On a crossroads
Fascism and Fossil Fueled mass extinction... Yay...
pretty much everyone is aware of that... just that the majority of people profit from it and don't want the status quo to change... change is scary
Nihilism is myopic, unhelpful, & unproductive.
@@LoFiAxolotl Majority
How?
@@thefox4944 what? Do you not understand the word majority? Means more people understand it and profit from it than are oblivious to it... i mean you and i profit from it... being able to go on youtube and watch a video about neoliberalism is a huge privilege we are awarded because we profit from the system
Though I am not against immigration, I do think that you need to put up a better argument for immigration if you want to convince people, for example since we are talking about Europe, a study on EU would be more appropriate than the one on US since they have vastly different social welfare program, economic situation and demographics.
Well for the migrants having a good impact on economy, it was proven to be the case in France as well.
@@jeyna8243 The problem is that it is not self evident, therefore a good argument must be constructed to support that claim.
@@fsdds1488 There's a bunch of studies supporting it
Of course, immigration is a net gain for the USA. The US receives many highly skilled and well-educated immigrants. Clearly, their contribution is a net gain for the US. Also, it is much easier for the ordinary immigrant in the US to blend in with the melting pot because they are more culturally similar to their hosts. Also, with the exception of the UK, it is much more plausible to expect an immigrant to speak English than a language that is not even spoken by 50 million people worldwide. Unfortunately, the same cannot be said of European immigrants. What is the net gain of accepting proportionally more immigrants from third world countries? It is sad to see how poorly the integration of migrants from Afghanistan, for example, has worked in Europe. I hardly know any Afghans, and I suspect that many of them hardly know any locals. Whether this is the result of a lack of effort by the immigrants or a lack of integration efforts by European politicians, it is safe to say that immigration from the US is not comparable to immigration from Europe.
Well in the case of France the linguistic barrier is lesser, because it receives a lot of immigration from french speaking parts of Africa
Absolutely, every EU country would gladly trade American's mexican immigrants for their muslim immigrants.
Without Afghan immigrants, we would not have enough drugs to have fun with.
"Funny" thing: you'll notice in the graph at 1:10, which was one of the official ones used all over the media in France, that the NFP is shown as smaller than the far-right, even though they have more seats.
when people go ‘oh progress will always happen, it’s always getting better’ i point to the last eight years and go ‘hm really? you sure? we’ve been backsliding in every arena and marginalized groups have been sounding the alarm to no avail’
80 years? Some pretty progressive stuff has happened in the last 80 years…
@@tyemccatty763 eight (8) years. i’m from the us and in 2015 we got gay marriage and we’ve been backsliding ever since. that’s my frame of reference, please do not misunderstand.
The Europeans are the marginalized
@@francescadamore6746 in the sense that all but a small few are suffering under capitalism, sure. in the sense that life is hard for all of us who can’t get adequate healthcare and our social systems are buckling under austerity, sure. further than that i will not concede.
@@Lamster66 gay marriage is definitely a good thing! Backsliding in terms of losing trans rights, voting rights, labor rights, women’s rights, the right to bodily autonomy for people who can get pregnant etc etc. (i am from the us and our problems may differ, but the root is the same: not caring for people’s dignity and human rights.)
I'm a french political student that want to expend its English skills and I found your very interesting chanel, count me among your followers! Continue!
I need to improve my French, are there any French channels made by people who have mostly the same kinds of views as JT (Second Thought)?
(I am a native German speaker from Switzerland in case that info is of any use to you.)
I'm a native English speaker but like the commenter above me have also been trying to find good french channels about politics if you have any suggestions
As an european: always has been
What kinda take is that 😂
@@Emann33 a real one
@@Emann33 half of Nazi highcommand was put in charge of EU and Nato
Wrong. there has always been a strong right wing (=conservaties), but now the far right is rising.
I think it makes sense to distiguish between right and far right eventhough I am strongly against both. If everyone is an asshole, nobody is an asshole anymore, so it only benefits the far rights
@@Emann33a fact
Its beyond weird to present this video as a truth for Europe, while sources are limited for US. Had second thought actually done their job on this, which they usually do, they would have found crime stats for several countries in Europe that would prove them wrong, but also noted that many countries don't publish data on such level - something which will make conclusions drawn in this video invalid at best, or flat out a lie.
Same can be said for most claims - "far right" can be criticized for a lot, but pushing data and a narrative that US welfare system is equal to that in Europe, hence numbers would be the same is very poor presentation of fact, or willfully misleading.
Had second though even asked chat gpt they would have found:
Net Impact: A 2018 study by Denmark's Ministry of Finance found that Western immigrants were a net positive, while non-Western immigrants were a net cost. However, over time, as integration policies improve and migrants enter the workforce, the fiscal balance can shift positively.
That would be in line with other countries in Europe also.
For UK given that they struggle in many parts of the UK with low education etc - immigrants probably "steal" their jobs in the sense that low skilled work is being taken. But this seems based on data mostly because of poor management of UK as a whole, and so can seem to be applied for Germany to if my sources are correct.
Anyhow - its extremely poor of second thought not to include facts for Europe, and case conclusions on studies from the US based on US DATA, assuming somehow that its 1:1 to other countries.
How are you going to criticize his sources then use chat gpt for your own?
@@trentmiller976I challenge you to find any error instead
You're acting like that conclusion isn't true for the US too, immigration is a net positive in the long term, you're not refuting anything.
@@bluester7177I suggest you read again. I haven’t said anything about the US as you claim. If you manage to read that into it - that might however be a you problem, and not me
French person here, i'm here to give a little more context for the 2 elections in france talked in the video:
The first vote, which was the European election, ended up like that for a few reasons. Firstly, there has been a big push for the normalization of the RN these last 10 years or so thanks to Marine Le-Pen. Secondly, there is a lot of people that have lost confidence in the system, so it made a lot of people on the left not vote, and some of them voted for the RN either as a vote of contestation or because, in their own words, "on a jamais essayé" (we never tried it). Without getting into details, this phrase is naive at best and malicious at worst.
After the European election ended up like it did, Macron dissolved the National Assembly and left only 2 weeks of preparation before the vote on the Legislative election. Unfortunately, even with Macron getting a "Everyone disliked that" moment, people didn't think they could enact change in the system, so, even if there was less absentees, there were a lot of votes of contestation for the RN. After people saw the disaster that was the first round, people tried their best to block the RN, including people who did votes of contestation.
There is a lot of stuff that i'm leaving like how we've operated without a prime minister for more than a month thanks to Macron deliberately doing the Legislative just before the Olympics to divert and calm people from the problem he created himself, but i gotta stop somewhere.
Of course, this isn't meant to be an exhaustive and i have my own biases, so take what i said with a grain of salt.
PS: Might as well say that the French Socialist Party is pretty bad. I've heard them be described as the "gauche molle" (soft left) and that's pretty much it. Socialism is really good but the French Socialist Party isn't.
French is my first language, and thus, I'm often educated about the politics of the French republic. I'm glad that you were able to summarize the current electoral situation over there in a comprehensive manner for those who aren't informed (even from a socialist perspective lol). I heard lots of harsh commentary on the Rassemblement National's policy against immigration, and the preservation of French values, but media bias is too prevalent nowadays, so it's better to view everything with skepticism.
better a soft left party is in power rather than a far right party.
Remember the overton window?
Excellent résumé, bravo.
@@crimsonhermit9383 the RN was founded by ex-Nazis, and, up until 10 years ago, it had some really appalling speeches. People who think the RN has softened are being deceived by Le-Pen, who has just redirected the party's idea to be more in line with what people think it's "ok" to vote for. They're just hiding their real intention to get elected, and then they'll reveal their real policies. The far left is no better. But because people want easy solutions and do not check the facts, they fall into a spiral that leads them to vote for extremes.
We're currently in a situation where everyone has forgotten to consider that if we vote for the extremes, it could be 1933 all over again. History is taught in schools so that we do not make the same mistakes again. But it seems that the whole of Europe has already forgotten what happened.
Besides, not having a prime minister isn't as big of a problem as people think; it prevents the government from making a bad decision, but at the same time, the country can still run normally. The Belgians had the same situation for two years, and their country didn't collapse.
@@Weromano yes but a soft left gov will never achieve much as they tend ot be here for their careers and thus are huge reformists. We see that the proletarian is voting more and more to the right : that's an effect of this "soft left" or fake left. When they are elected they don't do much, people feel bettayed, so next time they vote RN
I usually don't think too much about the one-sided views on this cannel, but as a European I feel the need to criticise here.
No, immigration is NOT "always beneficial". It is if you have an actual system to integrate people of other cultures and to give them the education they need to be useful for your economy. So something that since decades everyone in Europe put under the rug, hoping it would solve itself or simply vanish. It didn't, and many people are now on the breaking point where they consider voting fascist parties simply because they are the only ones that actually offer a solution, or something at all even.
People like Macron are not going harder on immigrants because they want to install fascism, they are doing do BECAUSE people are fed up with the non-immigration politics of the left and liberal parties. And there ARE problems with immigrants, you simply can't deny that. Even countries like Sweden have failed to deal with them, and Germans now have a very bitter view on Merkel who (besides failing to modernise the country) had a "Welcome refugees" stance without making any actually progressive actions to make it work. Immigrant criminals are on the rise, especially muslim immigrants, just a few days ago there was someone killing people in the name of Islamic terrorism.
Don't try to talk it off. Don't pretend it doesn't happen. We have been through this since 2015. It is clear now, to even the most leftist European countries, that it doesn't work, and that there is a cultural divide that is so large that it is very hard to overcome. And that immigration is no second thought topic.
Ultra-right parties have gained so much power recently because people are, often rightfully so, fed up about everyone telling them to welcome everyone and having to swallow the negative consequences. All the other parties have simply failed in that department, that's why they HAVE to acknowledge them now, or democracy as it is might actually be in danger.
This video feels 8 years too late, I suppose because of it being an American view on Europe. But here, we have been through this, all of it, it is nothing new to us, and it is nothing where we only need someone to tells to approach immigration with open arms. It offers absolute zero solutions, it is merely criticising something without understanding the nuances. Which is exactly how Europe even got into that situation in the first place.
I don’t know what europe he is talking about but this isn’t a matter of put up a wall and its ok, no. Our union is based on social security it functions only if everyone contributes. If everyone comes in and doesn’t do rat shit but complain and not contribute to the values, language and country they’re in its not gonna work and you destroy your self from within. Its not a matter of a wall, this is way bigger than giving jobs. They who don’t come here with intent to study, work, research or teach are even more motivated to not do those things when they experience the immense aid of the structural security systems. Those are draining countries’ resources for the future gens and buffers, so on. The world isn’t a big america. Everywhere is different, cultural, economical, structural, justice wise, religion wise, SO ON.
@@Victorvondoom9159 I dont get why other leftists defend Islam.. its literally ripped off christianity thats worse in every way to women or minorities.. even science cause muhhamad was proven a moron when it came to chemistry, language, gravity or anything else. its so bad black/slave mean the same in arabic (abeed, like in gaza they have Al Abeed, a city which sells slaves)
I can speak for what i saw happening in my country Italy but i bet is the same all over Europe.
Voting left or right is gradually becoming irrelevant because people in power have personal and corporate agendas to pursue, while fomenting their voters base with slogans.
The left speaks everyday about justice, fair wages, taxing the rich/big corps, helping working class, promote legal immigration but when they are in power none of those things are done, everytime with plausible excuses: the covid, the war, is not the right moment, economic stability comes first etc.
The right have the same excuses but gathers vote talking about sticking to "traditional values", security policies, reducing taxes for small businesses, not getting told by EU what to do with our money etc.
No matter what colour is in power but you can bet at some point someone will make it dirty and protests will start:
the left accusing the right of being fascists, racists and controlling the news
the right accusing the left of doing communist policies (everytime at some point someone is accused of taking money from Russia/China or whatever fits) and being laxists on immigration control.
The outcome is always the same, youth and many other people gather to protests and the police beat the shit out of them, always with the same excuses: there were infiltrators from extreme right groups, there were violent protesters, there were infiltrators from radical left groups.
All this game repeat itself until the next elections, where the winning party can always say that they cannot realize electoral promises because the government before has done X or Y.
In the meanwhile we are losing welfare state policies, health system is shifting towards private sector, key infrastructures are missing N° by a lot (some are done spot to convince the voters base before regional/local elections), industrial policies are non-existing, the rich come to our country to hit and run on some companies because they know the government needs money.
To broaden the talk to EU, what has changed with last elections? Nothing, the same people as before are in power, foreign policy is managed by the US that decide how EU money are spent (and what nation won't have access to cheap gas anymore, i guess)
We are slowly accepting the pervasive control over the news both on paper and on the internet, and the censoring of whoever is labeled as the enemy of democracy (anti-EU, anti-vax, or anti-israel, who knows who's next?).
Its sad to say it but the only rational reason to vote a party instead of another is if you can benefit from it economically.
There is no solution to this situation in Europe, stop voting seems the only way at least to withdraw my approval of whatever will be done by the ruling class.
They will do it no matter what happen. Someone thinks that if the voters base goes below a certain % amount there will be an uprising of the people against the tyrants; i used to believe this but at this point they can get away with whatever.
As a European I agree with what you said, and I feel it really mirrors well why people are so fed up with politicians now. Why vote a moderate party when they won't enact half their program because they had to share the council with the opposite moderate party?
It feels like a clown circus at times.
I'm Austrian and we had the green party in council together with our liberals. Before they got into council, the green party had a record vote of I think 16%. Now they are under half and might not even get over the minimum vote count to take part in the parliament.
It seems that this keeps happening since decades, but only one thing never changes: the liberals will always be be part of the head.
This is the only rational and sane comment in this whole comment section. Unfortunately, it will get drowned out by the more extreme and radical comments.
I'm from America and it's the same way there. It's increasingly obvious that democracy is and has always been a scam-- we are free to vote for whatever we want, as long as it's what bankers and Wall Street want. It's their policies that get implemented 1000% of the time by all factions, year after year, while fake fights over "social issues" like birth control and gun control are dangled like puppets to keep people keen and donations flowing. It's all just a scam as various companies aim to pillage the earth and drain our tax money into their private accounts.
In what countries have actual left wing parties been in power and not done left wing policies?
It sounds like you're just blindly parroting centrist BS tbh.
Germany (SPD),
Short for the social democratic party of germany
If someone sees my comment, any explanation on the strange amount of "I'm not racist but immigrants blabla" for an openly left wing channel? For a thing I know as a french is that intra--online-left, we are well over this confusionist stage in discourse, that was more of a 2014-2020 thing with a layer of baby red-browns and "sovereignists" or various small but terminally online small groups of online bros, since then a lot of deconfusion happened and most people either upgrade their leftism with anti-racist and decolonial layers, or have gone into the far-right and conspiracies. Also the discourse about separating legal and illegal immigrants doesn't really come often in my experience, their arguments weren't about separating the good from the bad but trying to look neutral and respectable while talking about immigration in itself.
Are we still an exception to have "overcome" this phase? Or are they just some of these famous paid trolls according to you lol? The overall left-wing discourse is pretty elaborate on more cases, more than I would think otherwise, I would tend to think even if they wanted to try sounding leftist they would fail if they were hired trolls, yet if its genuine, it's pretty alarming for an intra-left place (even if I enjoy playing my chauvinistic frenchie and brag we obviously got the best left of all colonial countries!).
Racist bots
One of them really brought the " our prisons are full of immigrants" argument, as if a leftist never heard that argument from an american neo n4zi before
Most likely some Neonazi linked it on their Discord.
You don't have a discourse. Illegal immigration is a tool by neo-liberalism to destroy labor it was always bad but since leftists started abandoning workerist principles and went into woke idpol you now have a problem on your hands. How do you square the fact that illegal immigration is destroying your country while at the same time try to appear "anti-racist".
Simple, you tell Americans Europe is different and your illegal immigration is a special sort of immigration whereas Americans kind of illegal immigration is good and they're just being racists.
Clowns.
@@Nicolas_II I'm talking the online left, not random people, so doesn't really apply.
Also there is the broader subject because of the bigger phenomenon I talk about: In broader life, people ignore they are left wing because of neoliberal narrative and constant disappointment with the elected "left", while some becoming ra-cist to tank their suffering and angst: yes. BUT: red-brown times happen in moment of capitalist crisis that leads the bourgeoisie to wash itself progressive, so it's the "crisis before the crisis", the 1990-2010's, when neoliberals elect themselves through making fas-cism rise while defending pseudo-left social policies and advancing on a number of issues as long as it's a liberal way.
We're now deep into the eye of the storm of the fas-cist and impe-rialist crisis with wars and gen-ocide all over the east and our countries going fash, unables and stopping to hide their lack of "democratic" justification for doing so, fas-cists getting elected or trying to be (for my case) are forced to prove themselves to the bourgeoisie and not play it so "populist" anymore and show themselves as the status-quo, defend capitalism again and hope their base doesn't hear, understand, or care, mostly doesn't care. This is what creates a time of deconfusion based on r-ace, the red and the brown get separated clearly: ra-cism doesn't anymore to have to pretend to be popular, white supr-emacy can sustain itself, and socialism who had overcome this class-first problem last decade through white-intersectionnality is overcoming the whiteness currently, and G-aza is accelerating the deconfusion.
Once again this is a france-based analysis, where we are ahead of the near whole west by several years and organizational levels, confusion is probably higher in most (all?) anglophone countries and most of the rest in general.
Ah yes. Europe is one country, somehow "the EU turned right" while e.g. the Sweden Democrats collapsed, we're all as bonkers as the English while ignoring the *massive* counter-protests the English did all on their own, unprompted, and, goshdarnit, citing a paper on the economical impact of immigration... *in the US*, which has a completely different economy and a completely different set of immigrants. No, an illiterate 21yold Syrian (Syria's education system collapsed during the civil war) is not going to have a net economic benefit to our economy. Yes, we should still take such people in, teach them skills, so that at least a portion of them will rebuild their countries once things look better. No, we should not pretend like some kind of neoliberal that it's economically beneficial, but rather sort it under developmental aid and general humanity.
Truly, you have out-yanked yourself in this one before five minutes are over.
the yankoid mind cannot comprehend
The Sweden democrats didn’t “collapse” in the EU election. They didn’t lose as single seat in the EU parliament and went back only about 2% - primarily due to low voter turnout and skepticism of the EU with many right wing voters that don’t even bother voting, alongside that many SD voters are also pro EU and support the party on the national level, but not EU level (for example regarding being opposed to Swexit, pro Ukraine, pro Climate, and different policies on economy/farming etc).
SD always underperforms in the EU and local elections compared to the national elections
0:50 le principali caratteristiche del fascismo sono:
-censura ed indottrinamento della popolazione(per censura non intendo che un determinato governo possiede alcune fonti di informazioni importanti e le influenza almeno in parte ma proprio che ad ogni giornale del paese era indicato cosa poter pubblicare o meno e qualora non fossero state rispettate le condizioni imposti ci sarebbero state gravi ripercussioni)
-la costituzione di un braccio armato del partito spesso distaccato dalla faccia istituzione del partito(più presentabile ed adatta alle istituzioni),(con braccio armato intendo le camice nere in Italia e organismi come le camice brune in Germania ,formazioni paramilitari che si sostituivano e minavano l'autorità della polizia spesso per eliminare e reprimere avversari del partito).
-Ripudio per la democrazia e per l'attività parlamentare perché considerati lenti e inefficace.
-Forte volontà di espandere il proprio territorio(e quindi offendere in maniera violenta altri stati) per riscattare l'onore della proprio popolo con il fine di affermarne la grandezza.
-spesso anche l'utilizzo di un evento in particolare come giustificazione per l'accentazione del potere.(se noti è completamente diverso l'atteggiamento dei partiti di destra di oggi, è completamente difensivo, non c'è alcuna intenzione di offesa)
-forte controllo del tempo libero della popolazione col fine di plasmarla e controllarla.
in nessuno dei partiti che vengono definiti di estrema destra oggi ritrovi questi aspetti, Certo se mai si dovesse ripresentare il fascismo non sarebbe completamente nella stessa forma. Si possono sicuramente definire conservatori forse anche ultra-conservatori ma definirli fascisti ti fa perdere di credibilità e se mai ci fosse davvero il rischio non verrebbe più preso sul serio ciò che dici. Qua in Italia il governo di estrema-destra non ha seguito politiche tanto diverse dal precedente governo tecnico di Mario Draghi.
2:26 vivere in democrazia vuol dire che è fondamentale accettare i risultati delle elezioni anche se non ci piacciano e vuol dire che è un nostro compito difendere la libertà degli altri di esprimere la proprio opinione, finché tale opinione non minaccia la tenuta delle istituzioni democratiche(sono pensieri di grandi figure della politica italiana come il presidente e partigiano durante la seconda guerra mondiale Sandro Pertini).Questo è fondamentale perché se non si permette alla gente di esprimere attraverso il voto le loro preoccupazioni magari si rivolgerà in cerca di aiuto verso elementi più estremisti, magari fascisti per davvero(bisogna ascoltare le preoccupazioni della gente).Ritengo anche importante che la destra(come tutti i pensieri che rientrano nello spettro democratico) abbia una propria rappresentanza nella istituzioni europee che ricordo devono rappresentare tutti gli abitanti dei 27 paesi rispecchiandone le volontà, è fondamentale altrimenti il progetto europeo diventa un qualcosa lontano dagli stessi europei utilizzato dai singoli paesi solo per i benefici economici e da una piccola minoranza di paesi e partiti per imporre agli altri la propria linea politica.
4:40 affermi con certezza che l'immigrazione è positiva e usi come argomentazioni a sostegno della tua testi solo articoli sugli Stati Uniti .Poi ti voglio far sull'ultimo punto "l'immigrazione arricchisce la cultura" è proprio ciò su cui non capisci gli europei neanche lontanamente, Ogni singolo paese europeo ha una cultura millenaria , non necessitano di arricchire e cambiare la loro cultura con quella di altri paesi. Se volessi conoscere altre culture andrei nei paesi dove sono presenti tale culture senza necessità di importarle. Sono cose che non ricordano solo l'economia. Poi noi siamo popoli di lavoratori che non hanno paura di sporcarsi le mani, non vogliamo importare persone da altri paesi per usarli per i lavori manuali come schiavi.
5:05 critichi le politiche della destra su militarizzazione(quando sai benissimo che è dovuta dall'aggressione all'ucraina e la situazione in Israele),mentre sull'tema ambientale è un semplice ricalibrare gli obbiettivi precedentemente imposti perché troppo ambiziosi e i tagli in generale sono dovuti dalle situazioni economiche disastrose dei vari paesi. Sicuramente non lo fanno per divertimento.
6:00 le tasse alte nel mio e i benefit sociali e in generale l'interventismo dello stato continuo nell'economia hanno reso il mio paese(Italia) poco appetibile per le aziende che se ne vanno e ci lasciano senza lavoro e inoltre non permettono più di tanto di premiare il merito.
Cosa dovremmo fare?
6:10 molti miei amici(me e la mia ragazza compresi) vorrebbero aver la possibilità di tirar su una propria famiglia, ma economicamente è difficile, cosa c'è di sbagliato nell'aiutare la gente in ciò?
7:26 sono cose che i nostalgici fanno in Italia dal 1945, non nuove, non usarle per creare allarme.
13:20 critichi Macron per politiche dettate dalla pessima condizione economica un cui sono le finanze francesi e poi per politiche contro l'Islam, ti ricordo che la Francia come molti paesi europei è un paese ufficialmente laico credo tali politiche servano a preservare ciò.
As a foreigner who has lived in (mostly) EU countries for a very long time, let me say this: Europe has, from about the turn of the millennium until fairly recently, benefited on the international stage by marketing itself as a beacon of progressive values and inclusivity and equality and so on, but the average Joes and Janes have pretty much never wanted to stick with this program. Ask the average working adult in, say, Stuttgart, and they'll likely tell you that "racism is bad" and "foreigners aren't here to take your jobs and/or your women" are just truisms that we're told at school, but we ALL KNOW how the world really works, right? If you're lucky, they might even follow up with an anecdote about how some things under fascism in the past weren't all that bad, "just as food for thought".
And that's not even touching on the incredible number of instances of racial harassment and attacks that I have experienced living here. There is a very uniquely European phrase that I have heard being said to me countless times now, pretty much every time I report something of that nature: "No way, IN OUR COUNTRY these things don't happen." or even better, "Maybe it was just a misunderstanding." Yeah, sure, they came at me with bottles and shivs and yelled the n-word at me (when I am not even black), but I am sure I must have just misunderstood the fine nuances of European culture.
In other words, people here - the average working people - don't have much of a problem with fascist tendencies. The only thing they have a problem with is the ingrained taboo of being CALLED a fascist, or a racist, and losing face as a result. This is why it's shocking to so many around the world that we now see folks dressed up like brownshirts and throwing up Roman salutes in public and the police even being sometimes somewhat reluctant to do anything about it - it is shocking, genuinely, even to the people who were born and raised here. Not because of the sentiment though, rather just because they feel so free to express it so openly.
Why are you in our continent?
why isnt there far left ???
i only hear far right
Because there is no far left
Far left are anticapitalist
7:26 the best defo of fascism comes from mussolini himself : "Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power"...by this defo, the US has been under a fascist state for 110 out of the last 150 yrs...
So... the fact that he's trying to say it should go by a different name tells you that the two names actually mean something different. Hitler used a same tactic, literally saying outright that *his* definition of National Socialism was extremely different from the actual meaning of the term National Socialism.
The US is the largest merger of state and private interests on the planet. Every single huge US corporation is a child of the government and the government is totally working for the enrichment of said companies. One and the same, working hand in hand for stealing from the many to benefit the few.
Yeah no what 😂😂😂 also, if that was the case then Monopolies wouldn't exist in the USA now would they?
No. That could be apart of it but it's definitely not one of the main characteristics of fascism
Yeah to bad thats not what corporate means in Latin. It comes from corpus or body. It came out of Catholic politics as a position against both capitalism and socialism and proclaimed that the state and economy should work as a body does in harmony advocating class collaboration as opposed to capitalism and socialism which are both class war based politics..
Thanks for spreading awareness in a time where it is very much needed. And thanks again for all the research done, to make this masterpiece of a video.
The dude tlaks about europe using USA data 😂
If you understood how studies work, you wouldn't be laughing at it.
Immigration in one place isn't necessarily like immigration in another place. Immigration in itself indeed isn't a bad thing, however it is becoming a (partially) bad thing when certain ethnicities amongst those immigrants are disproportionately not integrating into the society of the country they have moved to, and/or they are even rejecting the norms and values of the country they have moved to.
Let this be more of a problem in Europe than it is in the US. The US predominantly receives Hispanic immigrants. People that in terms of norms and values are not too dissimilar to what they are like in the US, thus making it relatively easy for these people to integrate into American society.
Europe mostly receives its immigrants from Africa and the Middle East, whereas especially muslims do tend to have norms and values that don't always compute well with those here in Europe, thus these people having more difficulties integrating into European society. Which leads to a set of issues that, if not addressed accordingly in a timely manner, spiral out of control. And that's what you now see back in Europe in for example the rise of the far right parties.
And by the way, if immigrants are committing far fewer crimes than native born people per capita, how come prisons tend to be inhabited disproportionally more by immigrants? The police may play somewhat of a role in this, but surely that won't explain the difference completely?
1) You know how Hispanic immigrants are treated in the US? Racists will always find a scapegoat.
2) Most of those immigrants have been in Europe for decades.
3) Regarding prisons, what country are you talking about? You can't really expect statistics to be the same for all 27 EU countries.
Crimes are more likely to be committed by poor people - or people pushed into poverty and abandoned by the system
@@JoaoSantos-ur1gg 1) In some cases, poorly. And you're right that racists will indeed always find a scapegoat. That doesn't change the fact that Hispanics generally have fairly similar takes on the societal and moral questions of life than those already in the US.
2) Fair enough. It's often at the second or third generations of immigrants where things tend to go south.
3) Obviously the results will be different in Poland, Hungary, Romania, or another country where the number of (non-western) immigrants will be relatively low. However it will apply to most Western European countries.
@@harimauindia5775 Yes indeed, it's more of a socioeconomic issue than anything else. And yet you see that some ethnicities are having a harder time climbing that socioeconomic ladder than other ethnicities for a plethora of reasons of which you could blame society for some, but of which you could most definitely also blame those certain ethnicities.
Immigrants get sentenced more often and more harshly for the same crimes
All freely available data
"Immigration is good" Only if that immigration comes from planes, and no from land or river, is a fact that muslims and african immigrants in europe tend to care less about the people and culture of the country they move in, also, the mayority of thouse immigrants want their culture and religion inside of europe. I think is fair for europe to want their culture protected from bad immigration
how is it a fact?
@@eVuLeX just search statistics of crime in europe by ethnicity, also if you are local, you may get a first hand view of that, i don't support violence to immigrants too but they didn't have to arrive at such scale in the first place
based furry
There's only one group of immigrants that are good: Europeans themselves.
People have a right to keep their countries. Politicians pushing for immigration against the will of the people should be a crime in a democracy.
Most people aren't racists like you
Duty, not simply right
If I want, I can move to your country tomorrow and you can do nothing to prevent it. It's called being in the European Union and xenophobes like you have to deal with it.
Then stop arming Israel, so that Palestinians keep their country, how about that? Effing fascos
3:02 Dismissing their whole agenda is exactly the reason why so many go out and vote in these insane far right parties, because all of their concerns are showed to the side as "non issues", looked down upon and belittled. You do yourself no favors by acting this way. Immigration dilutes the native culture, which many natives do not want. This is a fair opinion to have, wanting to maintain a clear sociatal culture should not be shamed.
Migration to a certain extant is great, and traditionalism to a certain extent is also great. How about you aknowledge both sides, instead of demonizing a whole group of people on the political spectrum.
These parties are not "far right" nor "insane". Normal truly conservative parties, the only sane person in the room.
"Imigration dilutes native culture"
And then the culture is formed by cultural exchange between ethnic groups =x.
Well, at least you are not trying to fool anybody.
Funny how the far center is always right leaning. You listen to both sides, to disagree with the leftist side and agree with the fascist side.
Its amazing how literally every point in this video is false.
"fascist" (thumbnail is nazism, different thing)
"the statistics" (shows US ones over Europe)
"immigration is allways good" (while saying blacks get paid less.. and brought into the country.. to work heavy labour like farming.. starting to sound alot like 1810s America to me)
Second Thought is a grifter and a tankie who would’ve thought.
Fascism growing here in Brazil too. It's a weed spreading fast.
Not a weed, a blight
Same in portugal with "chega" ... disgusting
@@stunter_pt7506 conhece o trabalho do coletivo Soberana, daqui do Brasil?
Wow, never expected it to grow in Brazil.
@@JetSopp Didn't they vote in Lula recently?
This guy keep repeating "Immigration isn't a bad thing"
No bro...immigrants with no intents of ever adapting to the european lifestyle and refusing to accept anything, but their own values is definitely a bad thing.
Okay bro, go work the low-paying job that props your economy up then. Oh wait, you don't want to cause the pay is shit. Oh wait, that's capitalism's problem. Think outside the box ffs.
@@kennykenevil57 The non-Western illegal mass migrants, which is who everyone is talking about in (Western) Europe when it concerns the destructive effects of immigration, don't work whatsoever, and have proven again and again to be a net massive burden instead of contributing anything to their host countries. A burden in costs, leaching off of the welfare system, disproportionately needing healthcare due to all their inbreeding which then puts massive strain on healthcare, a burden in crime, where they are extremely overrepresented, a burden in housing, a burden by not integrating and learning the language or adopting European culture and values, and on and on.
Most Europeans have little issue with work migrants, which is mostly comprised of fellow Europeans anyway, carrying out precisely the low paying work you're talking about.
@@kennykenevil57Crime skyrocketed since illegal immigrants entered.
@@kennykenevil57as someone who works minimum wage I don't wanna loose my job for someone cheaper
@@kennykenevil57
Year 1824: "But without slaves, who will pick our crops?"
Year 2024: "But without subhuman illegals, who will pick our crops?"
Europe for the Europeans
Based, are you by any chance a TND, TMD and TJD enjoyer?🌩🌩
Dropping this the day after Kamala gave the most fascist speech ive heard since Bush is good timing
How is Kamala a fascist?
I would say that is hyperbolic. If you hyperbolically make everything fascist you just empower actual fascists. Harris is certainly a neo liberal but she is not fascist.
I would say that is hyperbolic. If you hyperbolically make everything fascist you just empower actual fascists. Harris is certainly a neo liberal but she is not fascist.
Look, I'm well aware that Harris is a horrible authoritarian monster. But "the most fascist speech I've heard since Bush" is a laughable claim, considering Bush never said anything as fascist as Trump's rhetoric.
@@asare240 how is she a fascist
Europe is for Europeans!!!
America for the Natives! Australia for the Aboriginals! 👍
@@Sephiroth3000 they should fight for it then. Europeans are starting. Cope darkie
@@Sephiroth3000 following your logic, we should all just migrate to Africa
@@Sephiroth3000 there are barely any aboroginals left. America and Australia belong to white people
Excellent video as always, keep up the good work!
Whole world is becoming fascist
YOURE becoming fascist and you cant see outside your own head ❤
As apposed to the whole world becoming socialist/communist, neo-Marxist and woke?
@@Lamster66And hopefully the USA 😭🙏🏽 praying for a Kamala Harris victory.
@@Lamster66 Simple. The conservatives were so corrupt, inept and discredited, the media gave up trying to hide it. The far right reform party split the right wing vote.
I should point out that reform is just far right as opposed to extreme far right or fascist.
@@Lamster66The election in the UK showed a sharp ncrease in reform votes at 15% I think. Reform is fascist in the UK. Labour won because the Tories fucked up the country. The labour vote this election was an anti-tory vote. And current labour party has capitulated to the right and is squarely a right-wing party
I feel like immigration can be improved with better efforts to establish integration. Not to be confused with assimilation, it's not uncommon that immigrants will band together and rarely interact with the locals. It makes it difficult for immigrants and locals to understand one another better. I wish I knew ways to promote more interaction between the two groups.
The Roman Republic found its success by assimilating conquered cultures into their own. One did not simply because the other, they melded together to become one. One large contributor to the fall of the Roman Empire was a shift toward maintaining "Roman" culture as it was instead of assimilating with those new cultures and becoming more strict with who it allowed to become Roman.
That's an oversimplification to be sure. And it's just one of the factors. But historically, we have evidence to suggest that taking efforts to safeguard your own culture only hastens the destruction of that culture. And historically, we also have evidence to suggest that tightening immigration policy also hastens the destruction of a nation.
Thing is I agree with you but I can clearly see you are an american and what I mean with that is this. Europeans don't really fear new migration what they do fear is islamisation and yes it's a real thing in Europe not the USA I know but in Europe Islam is becoming more dominant than it will ever be in the USA. And is that bad? No at first we thought not but that was our first response too freedom of religion but there are those who come here and most just don't want to adapt not really work in their new lifes they just refuse to and want everybody around them to change not the other way around. That's why the extreme anger and fear because the previous European politcians did nothing to do something about this. And Europeans are just grown tired of it. I don't agree with this but as an American you just can't understand this your country starts the wars in the middle east but most of them go to Europe not the USA..
Islamisation is not a thing in Europe, that's a far-right myth. They want you to believe that a small minority has the power to make everyone else follow their religion so that you get distracted from real problems.
ahhh the political understanding of a random guy in a pub. if you're ever using the term "islamization" just know you're terminally cooked.
@@malum9478 I think people who use the term "islamization" just have some kind of weird fetish because there's no such thing as "islamization" in Western countries. If they were actually concerned about "islamization", they'd be talking about what happened to countries such as Afghanistan due to decades of foreign intervention.
@@JoaoSantos-ur1gg it's a thing I'm not extreme right and screaming deport them all!!! But I'm saying control it and people that come here please adapt or go. And big fact yes FACT is that most of these people don't even try to adapt. We have to when we just visit their country but they don't do it in return how do I know this? Cause I have seen a lot of the world and it's cultures so no to the other persons comment too I'm not a random guy in a pub other than that person I actually know what I'm talking about that's why I say no need for mass deportation but please respect our customs as we do when we go to their country
@@malum9478 blind fool🙄 just look at my other comment I gave to the other person it says enough.
As a European I found this video highly intersting. Please make a video about the situation in Belgium. The situation there is very special. On one hand you have the 2 Flemish nationalistic (one of them being fascist) parties gaining almost 50% of the votes and at the same time the Marxist national party is growing every year and even growing stronger than in the city where the leader of one of the two nationalist parties has been being mayor for the last 10+ years. This city (Antwerp) is also the stronghold of the fascist party. I would love if you'd make a video about several European countries including Belgium.
Kind regards
From a Belgian Marxist.
Immigration isn't always a good thing. Just look at Sweden
You don't know anything about the situation in Sweden, Sweden and became what it is after the majority left-wing party that was once the pride of Sweden (which earned it to be put in power for 30 years without interruption) betrayed the majority of its voters by starting at the end of the Cold War to apply liberal policies that led to repeated economic and social crises, the right and the extreme right (in order to take their eyes away from their own politics) then decided to blame loud and clear thanks to their media, immigration
"This idea contradicts mine, so it must be fascism! Am I right, guys??? "
Also, calling the right 'far right' and the far left just 'left' just shows your bias and lack of balance in understanding political perspectives.
This channel is basically the left-wing socialist equivalent of all the radical far-right propaganda channels. Same extremism and propaganda, different side of the political spectrum.
Yea, racism and racist discrimination have become centrist ideas in Europe. Neonazis are, at best, center-right these days.
@@kaenachoo4783 So righteous instead of bigoted. I can live with that.
It is far right because of the extreme messages that they portray
@@Yman7120 "my daughter shouldnt have experienced that"
-appearently a far right extreme message.. of a father whos daughter got gang rpd by muslims fallowing "spoils of war" part in the Quran
..there are so many more nuances to all the points you are making here
This is breadtube at peak leftist propaganda. Emotional abuse of human brain.
The graph used at 1:01 was widely criticised for the relative size of parliamentary groups not matching the numbers. But more than malice, it shows how unexpected the results were, since it seems the mistake is due to the visuals being prepared before the results were made available, with only the seats estimates being updated live.
The whole world can't live in Europe.
So when are we going to admit that our privilege comes at the cost of other areas of the world's poor conditions, cheap labor and us draining their resources? We really can't act like we're not doing something evil preventing immigration. We don't really deserve this, we didn't really earn it, we just got lucky being born here and they didn't.
Wait until you learn about colonialism. By the way, most of the world lives in Asia.
@@JoaoSantos-ur1ggAsia is 5 times the size of Europe what your point
@@JoaoSantos-ur1gg What I'm saying is that every person from The Middle East and Africa can't expect access to Europe.
@@cmd7930 Then those 6 countries should be taking all refugees. Sounds only reasonable to me.
The contradictions are heightening at a rapid clip. It won't be long before people will have to choose between socialism and fascism. There will be no in-between.
Nobody wants an in-between, because any point in-between those means we have to revisit this exact problem again and again and again until we finally get it through our heads that fascism is the ONLY possible conclusion to a capitalist system in the long term. We fought an entire world war against fascism to prove this fact to be true.
To be fair the dial will always swing that way no matter the case, it'll depend if the centre will deal with the devil to keep it's comfort (again) or confronts it's own issues beforehand.
never was
the 100 year cycle
Sadly no center exists
nooooo I live there
😢
How? 💀@@0ptic0p22
They taught that after the war
The Nazis vanished without a trace,
But battalions of fascists
Still dream of a master race.
The history books, they tell
Of their defeat in ’45,
But they all came out of the woodwork
On the day the Nazi died.
They said the pris’ner of Spandau
Was a symbol of defeat;
Whilst Hesse remained in prison,
Then the fascists, they were beat.
So, the promise of an Aryan world
Would never materialize.
So, why did they all come out of the woodwork
On the day the Nazi died?
The world is riddled with maggots.
The maggots are getting fat.
They’re making a tasty meal
Of all the bosses and bureaucrats.
They’re taking over the boardrooms,
And they’re fat and full of pride.
And they all came out of the woodwork
On the day the Nazi died.
So, if you meet with these historians,
I’ll tell you what to say:
Tell them that the Nazis
Never really went away.
They’re out there burning houses down
And peddling racist lies.
And we’ll never rest again
Until every Nazi dies.
TOO BAD NERD... wait, I also live there... oh...
I love RUclips purple screaming crying emoji
Bro your content is amazing.
"immigrants are good" nuh uh
a "Centrist" European
@@MCArt25 nuh uh
Alright, explain why it's "bad".
@@Hansalicious nah
@@Hansalicious They take without giving back. Cause a lot of crime. Enough said.
No, there is a reason. Just today morning(24.08.24, this video was published 18 hours ago), there are 3 killed and 9 injured with the knife by the arab-looking guy on the festival in Germany. This the reason, don't just say "Without any reason at all!"
Letting illegal immigrants + turning down the justice system + worsening social institutions = people want fascism = elits will gain more power and can worsen it even further if it gives an additional penny. Illegal mmigrants are not the root cause, they are one of the outcomes that leads people in "the right direction"
imagine blaming a whole diverse group of people of multitude of opinions and life experiences for a crime that was committed by one person. there's a reason why nobody likes you, europeans. because you think you're better than others, and that you're entitled
If the actions of one person were an excuse for racism, then the rest of the world would ban Europeans from going there.
And of course, Aryan Germans have never committed atrocities far,FAR worse. Nothing happened in Liditz, Auschwitz, Birkenau, Dachau, Babi Yar, etc... Or did it?
@@JoaoSantos-ur1gg ESPECIALLY Germans. Given their history,maybe complaining about immigrants being violent is a bit... Hypocritical?
As Hakim says: Capitalism in decay
More like crony capitalism or oligarchy makes more sense !!! but free market capitalism is needed for any country to grow !!!
@@sameersheriff7078 It is literally impossible for free market capitalism not to evolve into an oligarchy. Every conservative economist will agree with this statement.
@@sameersheriff7078 "crony capitalism" is cope. If you understand the basics of the system, capitalism is working precisely as intended. It just isnt meant to work for people like you and me.
Stop coping, the system isnt made for you. Dont make excuses for it
Also, 'free market capitalism' has been around for like... 400 years only? And yea, there has been massive growth (which leads to imperialism, hi Lenin xD), but youre saying it like before that no country ever grew at all. Growth and prosperity has happened and will happen after we're done with this bs system. You're just being miopic.
@@kisuz9853 I dunno, capitalism has been working pretty well for me. Why is the govt having unlimited power better than plenty of monopolies having lots of power?
Yeah because of foreigners
I really understand that people trying to k*ll or do bad things to migrants is terrible and I dont support actions like this. I dont like right side parties but at the same time I think that illegal imigration can be bad for your country. Im from Poland and its just strange for me that in almost every european country that took a lot of illegal imigrants instability is very high.
Even the question is ridiculous. Right wing populist parties are not fascists.
1. They don't root for a pure white nation of ethnic germans, italians, french etc. Most of them have no problem with migration from other european states. European right wing populists are pan european - not ultranationalistic. They often speak about the "judeo-christian european culture" wich accorduing to them had to be defended against the middle eastern "invaders".
2. They are not antisemitic. On the contrary, many of these right wing parties are supporting Israel no matter what and accuse all muslims of being antisemitic.
3. They are not militaristic. In fact most of these right wingers were against support for Ukraine, even though Russia was always archenemy of every european Nazi and Ukraine was an allie of the axis forces.
The "fourteen points of facism" presented here are totally arbitrary and some are downright wrong. For instance fascism never appeals to a "frustrated middle class"- they appeal to the white under class. This is their main target group. Also the rejection of modernism doesn't make you fascist and disdain for woman is also not necessarely fascistic. Fascists believe in traditional gender roles but that isn't the same as "disdain for women" as in some incel or sigma male groups or in religious fundamentalist groups, no matter if these fundamentalists are muslim, christian or jewish.
What is even worse is the fact that the most important things are missing.
The most important characteristics of fascism are
- Führerkult (a personal cult around a leader)
- Palingenesis (a higher goal that has to be archived by all means necessary)
- Militarism
- Antisemitism
- Ultranationalism
These 10 points of Jason Stanley describe exactly how right wing populism works but right wing populism is not fascism. It can lead to fascism but it doesn't has to. The USA had a right wing populist leader and the country is still not fascist yet because the institutions prevented it and because Trump is no fascist. He is a selfish idiot who doesn't believe in anything. When he realised that "Project 2025" is unpopular among voters and could cost him the election he couldn't distance himself quickly enough from it. Trump is just an opportunist, real fascists are fanatics who are often willing to die for their believes.
None of your 3 points make sense, fascism isn't defined exclusively by those 3 things.
And the idea that fascists never appeal to a frustrated middle class is hilariously ignorant. A "white under class" is a vague statement that doesn't refute Eco's point.
By definition if you're _middle_ class you are _under_ another class, therefor you are an under class.
You seem to make a bad attempt at handwaving historically accurate characteristics of fascist ideology in an attempt to downplay fascists being fascists.
Eco's list of points are *indicators* of fascism they aren't exclusive definitions of only fascism.
"Fascists believe in traditional gender roles"
For one, this is a meaningless statement since traditional gender roles vary WIDELY across earth and time.
For two, the supposed gender roles you're referring to is that women are inherently less worthy than men and that they are only good for raising children.
This is effectively describing disdain, your cowardly attempt to sugar coat it isn't working.
"no matter if these fundamentalists are muslim, christian or jewish."
Identifying with any of these religions do not exclude you from having fascist characteristics, this is another incoherent attempt at downplaying fascism.
"The most important characteristics of fascism are"
Based on what evidence is this true? Your feelings?
Eco has scholarly research backing his points.
"because Trump is no fascist."
This further betrays how you're downplaying fascism, by calling the most blatant and out and about fascist as not being a fascist.
Being a selfish idiot who doesn't believe in anything falls entirely within Eco's points or any historical fascist leader. You're not refuting the claim.
And no, no historical fascist _leader_ was willing to die for their beliefs. That's why they send others to die in their stead.
I suggest you stop being a coward and just come out and admit you like fascists.
Talking incorrectly about statistics. As I understand, it's not your fault, but the problem lies in how this information is presented to the public, and everyone just follows it. There was a good RUclips video about immigration and how it affects society and the economy in the EU, with much better statistics.
Then give it.
@@jeyna8243 I post it 15min ago. But it was deleted....
@@edgarLV you can't post link, just put a space in the link so it doesn't delete the message.
People here are absolutely not interested in facts and statistics. It's collective brain rot and it's scary as hell. Luckily normal people off the internet will vote according to their values and not some armchair reddit/YT communist.
@@qdlaty23 they will vote according to TV instead!
"Based on nothing" you must have a very interesting definition of nothing
Come on, tell us why you vote for Neonazis.
@@MCArt25Becuase he probably shares the same "keep Europe white" delusion.
@@Hansaliciouswho stabbed and killed people with a knife in solingen Germany Hans ❓
@@Hansalicious Strange that the crime rate increased tenfold ever since migrants arrived eh?
@@tram_collectionsdid somebody drop you on your head when you were a child or are you just delusional?
Millions of people gave their lives fighting fascism, and here we are, trying to revive it
The claim that modern far-right parties are simply "fascists" ignores significant differences in ideology, historical context, and political behavior. While it’s easy to use terms like "fascist" as a catch-all for nationalism or conservatism, doing so erases distinctions that are crucial to understanding both the far-right and fascism itself. Fascism, historically, was about totalitarian control, suppression of individual freedoms, militarism, and often racial hierarchies enforced by state violence. Modern far-right parties, while they can be nationalist, anti-immigration, or culturally conservative, are not advocating for totalitarian regimes or violent expansionism. Most of them operate within democratic systems, accepting the rules of elections and the idea of peaceful transfers of power.
And let’s be real for a second: if you’re going to call all far-right parties "fascist," why stop there? Some modern far-left ideologies also share similarities with historical fascism in terms of suppressing dissent, controlling speech, and using mob tactics to silence opposition. Fascism isn’t a monopoly of the right-it’s an authoritarian impulse that can crop up on any end of the political spectrum when people decide that their ideology justifies crushing anyone who disagrees.
What’s really ironic is the hypocrisy in how democracy is treated. If your party wins, democracy is alive and well. If the other side wins? Suddenly, democracy is "under attack." This isn’t a defense of far-right policies; it’s a critique of the double standard. The truth is, democracy only works when people accept that others have a right to win-even if their policies or ideas are ones you oppose. To label every opponent as "fascist" is not only lazy but also dangerous because it shuts down dialogue and demonizes people instead of engaging with their ideas.
Ultimately, reducing these movements to "fascism" ignores the complexities of what they stand for and the broader shifts in European politics. People vote for these parties not because they want to return to 1930s-style regimes but because they feel let down by traditional parties on issues like immigration, the economy, or sovereignty. If we want to defeat bad ideas, we need to confront them on their merits, not with oversimplified slurs.
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Case Study: Brothers of Italy vs. Mussolini's Fascism
Take the Brothers of Italy, for example. Under Giorgia Meloni’s leadership, they’ve become a dominant political force in Italy. Critics might point out their nationalist and traditionalist rhetoric, but to equate them with Mussolini’s fascism is to misunderstand both their actions and the historical reality of fascism.
On Totalitarianism: Mussolini’s regime was a dictatorship that banned all opposition parties, censored the press, and crushed dissent. In contrast, the Brothers of Italy govern within Italy’s democratic framework, competing in free elections and sharing power with coalition partners. Their policies are subject to parliamentary debate, judicial review, and electoral accountability-hallmarks of a functioning democracy.
On Militarism: Fascism glorified war and sought territorial expansion as a national goal. Mussolini famously invaded Ethiopia and aligned with Nazi Germany for global conquest. Giorgia Meloni’s platform, however, is focused on national sovereignty and protecting Italy’s borders, not imperialist ambitions or glorification of war.
On State Control: Mussolini centralized economic and social control under the state, promoting a corporatist model where industries served the regime. Brothers of Italy, by contrast, advocate for lower taxes, small-business support, and reduced bureaucracy-policies that reflect right-wing populism but not the fascist obsession with total state domination.
On Racial Hierarchies: Mussolini’s fascism promoted racial laws that directly targeted minorities, most notoriously Jews. Meloni’s party emphasizes cultural identity and stricter immigration controls, which, while controversial, are not rooted in racial supremacy or genocidal policies.
The Brothers of Italy are undoubtedly a far-right party, but they are not a return to fascism. They reflect the frustrations of a population disillusioned with globalization and unchecked immigration, not a desire to revive authoritarian rule. Conflating the two isn’t just inaccurate; it’s an insult to those who genuinely suffered under real fascist regimes.
A highly recommended book about real fascism is "Fascism: A Warning" by Madeleine Albright. This book explores the history, characteristics, and warning signs of fascist regimes, drawing on Albright's experiences as a child fleeing Nazi-occupied Europe and her career as a diplomat. It provides historical context and discusses how the authoritarian tendencies of fascism have reappeared in modern politics.
Another excellent resource is "The Anatomy of Fascism" by Robert O. Paxton. This book delves deeply into the origins, ideology, and practices of fascist movements, with a focus on Mussolini’s Italy and Hitler’s Germany. Paxton outlines what makes a regime truly fascist, separating the core elements from other forms of authoritarianism.
These works are thorough and scholarly, offering insight into what fascism truly is and how it differs from modern political movements labeled as such.
I see how this video could apply to the American context, where immigration is regulated and largely based on merit. The immigration we have in Europe is not and you can't extrapolate American economic data to try to explain what's happening in Europe. If you want to understand what immigration has done for the working class in the continent please watch the video "Why Immigration Isn't Saving Europe's Economy" by Into Europe, and do so without blinkers on, and also the essay "The Left Case against Open Borders" by Angela Nagle. Also interesting is the new party founded by Sahra Wagenknecht in Germany, fully left wing but not blind to the fact that European immigration is damaging the welfare estate and the power of the working class.
❤️ your channel dude 😎👍🎯
At least two of the studies mentioned are about the US which has a way different economic, social and welfare situation
And now it seems there was an agreement between Macron and Marine Le Penn to put the Republican candidate as Prime Minister, disregarding the democratic results
The left wing party retired their candidates in favor of macron in district where they arrived second to not let lepen win, allied themselves with the socialist (of wich Macron was a former minister) and refuse any proposal by the government for a prime minister from their group.
They bended their asses to get pounded by Macron and got cucked, it's well deserved
Rn got the most vote beating the 2nd place by over 3 million votes
This guy does not know about how many crimes are being committed by non-natives who have arrived through mass migration
He lives in a gated community not with riff-faff like you #luxuryBeliefs
@@MoogleMoger i also believe this channel is protected by youtube bots. the likes to dislikes dont match the comment section at all.
neither do you.
violent crime rates are literally lower for non native populations and you can google it
@@habibikebabthe4th868 thats because reasonable people dont feel the need to comment
@@jamessurnamepending1239 45% of knife crime by foreigners in Nordrhein-Westphalen while we have 15% foreginers in the country. Same thing with gang rape. Google it!
bro you are telling the europeans what to do even though you don't live here and clearly don't understand the problem.
Stay in America and don't tell Europeans what to do.
huim being american doesn't disqualify him from understanding the issue and doing research, and you being european doesn't make you all knowing. He probably did more research than you.
@@malogibeaux4946ok let's start by saying that what this guy calls fascist is not even close to real fascism.
I'll just name a few of the things he got wrong or that I disagree with cause I don't have time for that BS.
He says that immigrants commit less crimes than natives which is wrong if you look at statistics (or just look at what Sweden has become).
Another thing is that the hate towards illegal immigrants makes u wonder why they are so hated, hmm maybe it's because a lot of em don't have jobs and live off of taxes? maybe it's because they commit a lot of crimes? Or maybe it's because they want to create a Europe that opposes our beliefs?
And just one more thing, I'm almost certain that first hand experience is far better than doing some research which he probably did from biased sources.
@@The_crusader4154 first, you didn't explain how he was wrong about fascism.
Second, all the migrant thing is just not true, you cannot prove it with any statistics. Your only proof is "first hand experience" which is a nice way of saying "I saw it on the TV" and " I looked outside with my biased eye and saw a brown guy". You do not understand how your perception is constantly lying o you, just look at optical illusions.
Both your sources for immigration not committing crimes are from the US, based on US immigration. Their largest influx of immigrants are from Mexico yes? Another Christian country...
Wheres the statistics that shows large groups of muslim immigrants commit lower crimes?
Its odd that you choose two studies made on the other side of the ocean when talking about EU politics situation. Makes me wonder if you could find no study made in the EU that supports your claim...
4:48 there is a reason why I love Stephen Flynn if you saw the debate a question on immigration came up and he corrected Nigel farage’s lies and told everyone on national Tv why immigration was good for the economy
"Immigration is not a bad thing in any way"
people from the USA really are arrogant and know nothing they think that all countries just want to become multicutlrual or something. NO we have been white ethno states for thousands of years we do not want to become the USA which is a dump. As if life is all about money it's not.
@@bobby5678-ck2tc What is "white"? A hundred years ago peopel like you thought that polish and italians were not "white". There has always been other groups in europe than the majority group (exemples include: jews, gypsies, minority religions, etc...)
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@sanchoohches eh depends on the status of the home country and the other country, but it does help create new cultures, food, new versions of preexisting languages, new social veiws etc.., but it's what the people of the other and home think that also matter. Those people who view them as a threat for reasons not due to them will else them as a goat to escape reason to change and help the country. And those who don't will try and help.
@@logangonzalez-patton3121 Dude, arguiment about food is silly, I can check recepies online, or can use 2 restaurant in city, don;t need to bring millions of people that hate my and my culture and only want money so we can eat same food. What new social views can be brought to Europe from Pakistan or Syria?! Give me a break LOL
"Immigration is not a bad thing, like, in any way" -Second thought.
I got two: The day after this video was posted and syrian immigrant radicalized by IS stabbed 3 people to death and 4 seriously injured 300m away from his shelter.
How about housing? Immigrants take up housing, have their homes subsidised by the government (who will pay whatever price) and drive up prices for everyone else.
and hundreds of people are run over by cars every year,and yet we ain't screaming that we must abolish cars
@@malogibeaux4946 70 IQ reddit moment
@@malogibeaux4946google logical fallacies
Your landlord demands more than 50% of your salary in rent but go blame immigrants. Your landlord blesses your ignorance.
@@malogibeaux4946 One of the worst takes ive seen in this comment section lol
If only fascism can save me from shariah law then the choice is simple for me.
you keep believeing in a boogeyman portrayed by TV.
@@malogibeaux4946 Solingen 2024, Cologne 2015, Madrid 2004, London 2005, Paris 2015 were boogeymans?? Caliphate rallies didn't happen in Germany? Sweden doesn't have massive problem with Muslims? Taylor Swift concerts were cancelled in Austria on what ground? These are beliefs of younger Muslims in UK: "More than a third of respondents aged 18-34 said that they view Hamas positively, and over a quarter said they have a favourable view of jihad"(...) "Of Britain’s young Muslims, 59% believe it would be very or somewhat desirable to make showing a picture of the Prophet Mohammed illegal, with 33% saying that implementing Sharia law in the UK would be desirable". But no, that is the boogeyman created by TV??? You are one of the reason why people are turning towards so called "far-right".
@@malogibeaux4946
Nah the boogeyman is portraying the exact opposite the far right is believing.
I hope you're equally concerned about Voldemort and aliens.
1:30 I don't know if presenting the number of votes on the second round that way was an unconscious mistake or simply a way to manipulate the information. It would mean that there was a difference of nearly 12% of electors between the NFP and the RN. The information that is misused is that the NFP and the presidential majority indeed had to take down a lot of candidates to prevent the RN to get more seats in the assembly (another thing unsaid is that it's a very common action for a party to ask their representants to quit to prevent the cadidates of other parties it has been done over and over again over the past few decades, not an hopeless and unusual attempt to prevent the far right to obtain more seats). Nevertheless, showing this graph to demonstrate the argument of an overpowered far right is disingenuous. Since the NFP and PM both had to take down a lot of their deputies (134 for the NFP and 81 for the PM), those parties were both present in way less districts than the RN. The dynamic of a two round election changes everything. For the second vote, the RN was present in over 400 districts while the NFP had a candidate in 275 districts after 130 of their candidates withdrew from their respective areas.
So yes, on the second round, the RN got over 32% of votes against 25% for the NFP, but it is not representative of the votes of the french population since the left wing voters of 130 districts did not have the choice but to vote for the central party (and since the presidential majority had to withdraw 80 of their candidates, which forced the usual centrist to vote for another party too). If we want an accurate representation of the population's choice, we have to look at the 1st round results, in which, the RN and the NFP "only" had 1.2% of difference.
It is just too easy to present the information the way it is done here but before giving huge number it's important to understand what they represent and why they turned out that way.
The far right did get a majority of votes and it's number of electors keeps growing but not as impressive as a lot of medias try to portay.
We are just pissed of radical Islam
Where's the "radical islam" at?
@@Hansalicious In Germany we have a dramatic problem with that. Many rapes and knife attacks by groups of Islamists every day.
@@Hansalicious Have you ever heard of the countless terrorist cells in Europe? 2016,17,18,19 France, Germany,UK etc
@@Hansalicious Sweden, Germany, France, Italy, Norway, Denmark..
@@Hansalicious All around europe
Try not be biased challenge (impossible)
Imigration is a bad thing especially from countries with absolutely different culture than us.
Why
@@CknWngMn Because obvious clash of civiliastions will happen, like with the Islam in Europe. Multi-kulti is a myth, stronger cultures will destroy the weaker ones. Also, some cultures are not willing to adapt t others and are lookin to dominate.
@@CknWngMn Fascim bad...Islamic fascim good - The modern left.
@@CknWngMn Because cultures do not mix, stronger cultures will take over the weak cultures. Some cultures want to conquer, plain and simple. Why every European country has a problem with Muslim imigration, high crime, rape gangs, etc?! Is that also europan fascicst fault?
what is culture according to you?
You know what, I give up on humans. I want to move to Antarctica and build an ice castle.