@@SamTehGr8 VFX artists of today. They are as talented today as they were back then, its just they have insane workloads now, so cant put in the effort.
It's probably not the model's fault for defective hardware components. No way a computer just burns if the workload is too high. There are mechanisms to prevent that.
@@247.mp4 Thats because the VFX were great, but Bay also filmed alot of practice stuff with the CGI, so that it looks real. The VFX were just as good in AOE and TLK, but the cinematography took a nosedive. ROTB is just worse in every singe way. The CGI quality is worse, the desighns are worse, the cinematography is worse, and too top it off, there is nothing in the background of the movie
Top-of-the-line PC hardware in 2009 for a home PC would have: > Intel Core i7 or AMD Phenom II X4/X6 series > NVIDIA GeForce GTX 285 or ATI Radeon HD 5870 > 6GB to 12GB of DDR3 RAM
I know ILM had render farms to deal with the final output but for sure its no wonder they said it took sometimes an hour to save their 3d file a project of that magnitude at that time would've been hell to work with and go knows how laggy that file got when the model had all its high res textures and maps applied.
@@Carrion0409 The geometry is loaded by the disc and processor, the GPU is used for load textures or render in most cases, so your 3070 would sweat for sure if your other hardware couldnt handle the file
At this point this is completely different from the original character. Only the name is the same, and the fact that he is made out of construction vehicle Decepticons.
What? No, it never will be. This design could've easily been the greatest in the movie franchise, but no, they had to give him those balls for comedic reasons
Personally' the design for devastator is so good and fits his g1 lore, but i really wish they explored the bots that made up devastator bc they are a well of lore. Most of the designs in the movies from 1-3 are amazing but fell off in 4 and 5 (excluding the dino bots in 4 bc they were amazing). They did my boy jetfire so dirty tho.
@@shotwell25 *WTFK are you talking about? LOL* This thing has more geometry in itself that the whole map in RDR2, wich render engine (RAGE) literally needs to unload objects and other stuff to prevent our PCs from crashing... and youre saying that "a phone could render this" HELL NO 🤣
Devastator and the constructcons are the only reason why I love this movie when I saw them as a kid i immediately loved them I love this design not that I love the g1 I like the g1 design to but this design is what I grew up with and this movie made Devastator my number one favorite transformer ever and I wish they use him again with theses new movies!
The fact that michael saw the Devastator that destroyed a cpu and said: "Isn't detailed enough" is probabilly one of the most Bay things that bay has ever done
every transformers movie is badass accept rise of the beast which is recent released. the efforts they put in these movies at that time is so mind blowing. nowadays movies hardly achieve this realistic-ness
I have, but haven't seen, Rise of the Beast, but everything that I have seen of the scenes makes me kind of regret getting it (albeit 10 bucks on black friday).
@@silencedmaxim5889 for story purpose u can watch it but graphically and VFX - cally it's not that good. Micheal Bay is a different build. his every movie is unique. I wish they ll let him direct next movies. he always focus on lighting. and once u achieved greatness in lighting, ur character ll look so realistic. plus there are some candid shots in previous movies. if u ll watch these movies u ll notice that VFX team put so much efforts even in very minimal shots even if it's there for few seconds. u won't say these characters in transformers are VFX or CGI probably u ll say it's set, they made those characters in real life size and made some chages, add some effects for movie. but now, in rise of the beast that realistic ness is gone. like in some shots frame rate of transformers doesn't even match frame rate of surroundings. it's bit laggy. fuck man I m die hard fan of these movies accept last one. I can write book in which I ll appreciate Micheal Bay and whole VFX crew.
CGI really peaked in the mid-late 2000s. We have directors like Peter Jackson, James Cameron and Michael Bay that actually understands the use of VFX that people in the future would still appreciate. Nowadays, the superhero era movies with their cheap looking CGI is something that brings market becoming oversaturated.
Imagine if we gave these people our modern technology to make this film (threadripper pro rtx 4090 or something) could only imagine what else they'd have been able to accomplish
Imagine if we gave VFX artists the proper time and money for the work they put in instead of giving the slave wage for slave hours. Seriously, the VFX has gone downhill since the 2010s.
they have all that crap and what you see on Disney+ is what you get. A lot of really good people left ILM and VFX in general after 2010. It's a factory of kids who work cheap now. Still some good people there but far outnumbered.. doesn't help that the projects are shite too.
I loved this as a kid, I wanted a toy version so badly 😂 This quite helpful to know that the renders destroyed their tech, I’m learning blender and 3d animation at the moment and it hurts so badly when things freeze 😭😭
If they had the advanced technology like today he would’ve been more complex than he already was. Devastator is like a final boss to Voltron instead of transformers.
Wait until you see the big futuristic CG cities, cars, and even ships created for Blade Runner 2047 which was barely visible behind the fog and the dark of the night LOL
watching this movie in the theatre as a kid was PEAK! the CGI was good, linklin park was back and yeah the story was mid but who cares lol, its a michael bay joint. the action made up for it
End Game isn't really that impressive. It's just all the known heroes gathered up to fight Thanos and his army. Emotional because we get to see the culmination of all those years put to rest? Absolutely, but it's not impressive.
These old movies have far far far way better realistic graphics than todays garbage cgi in movies . Man, can't believe they made a whole movie with such weak hardware back in the days .
"when I loaded the whole entire creature on my machine and tried to get it over to our proprietary software" holy fucking shit what a convoluted way to say she tried to open the rig in maya and it crashed
The Bayformers movies have ZERO heart put into them (in terms of storytelling), because Michael Bay doesn't care about _Transformers._ Hell, he doesn't even treat the Transformers themselves as characters; more as vehicles (pun intended) for pornographic violence. _Bumblebee_ had ACTUAL heart and told a story. _Rise of the Beasts_ could've used a bit more work for sure. But I'd rather watch _Bumblebee_ and _Rise of the Beasts_ for the rest of my life than ever watch the Bayformers movies ever again.
Ok who the hell watches transformers for the story lmfao, people only care about the awesome visuals and hot women we don't need story about those robots
I'm not familiar with the programs they used or any specific details but i can make an educated guess. The Assets most likely are low polly on the inside of the Devastator and a lot of parts were probably instanced, meaning it only has to load one part and the other identical parts are very light copy of it computing wise. Also the same textures are most likely used on many parts. Re-using textures can safe a lot of memory.
I don't like the 'Bayformers' as a concept, neither the movies...because is a mess...BUT the VFX of the first 3 movies are so well done, so much passion and hard work... this was the time when you were going to Cinemas to see impossible things come to life, in High detail... mesmerizing.
The ways I can think of are: 1. It was attached to a cable, and on the given cue, they retracted the cable, and away the van went, after which, they erased the cable digitally. 2. It was rigged to an air cannon that blasted it up into the air and sent it flying away.
![Shia LaBeouf, Megan Fox 'Transformers' Behind The Scenes [+Subtitles]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/sXRIjcJspAg/mqdefault.jpg)
its still mind blowing how detailed they made Devastator.
more like computer blowing
badumtss!
hehe
@@jstandhh**cricket sounds**
Bro the overall transformers CGI is still to this day if not the best CGI I have ever watched - To this day I am still impressed
@@yeahyeah410it's so realistic, like how are the textures so realistic
@@nickryan6787 True
Legend says that "Devastator_high_res" is still loading on that PC to this days...
So much respect for these guys and Michael. ROTB could have used them to make the action good.
Could have used them all to be any where decent lol. Such a bad movie
and what they could do with modern rtx graphics
I know people loves Dark Of the Moon. But Revenge of the Fallen is still my favorite. Optimus was so BADASS in that movie.
A badass in an ass movie
@@Zygomatic_Boltthe movie is definitely not good but I love it
GIVE ME YOUR FACE
My fav is age of extinction
fallen was actually scary
Man vfx artists are so underrated. The actors take too much credit! Share the love man
VFX artists of the 2000s*
@@SamTehGr8 VFX artists of today. They are as talented today as they were back then, its just they have insane workloads now, so cant put in the effort.
absolutely mind blowing. this was very impressive for 2009
Impressive? This was REVOLUTIONARY. People don't give the Transformers franchise enough credit for changing cinema.
It still is
Still is unbeatable in such a quality VFX.
2024 and arguably the champion of CGI (in the category of realistic giant movie robots).
for 2009 ? dude this level of cgi is still unbeaten
Best and iconic Decepticon!!!!!!😊😊😊😊😊
Balls of steel !
@pricemoore2022 um actually they are constructicons 🤓
did nothing, then died
mark of a true decepticon
Michael really walked in like "not good enough" after this thing demolished the departments hardware 💀bro tf you want them to do?
Bay recognizes what a good CG looks like, so I'll give him props for that.
@@Iloveyou-dz7mqTRUE FACTS
Exactly what they ended up doing:D
It's probably not the model's fault for defective hardware components. No way a computer just burns if the workload is too high. There are mechanisms to prevent that.
I wish Michael Bay paid as much attention to the story as he pays to the CGI
Devastator was basically the hardest animation in all movie history, hes character alone is peak.
Transformers movie have some of the best vfx of any movies
Its crazy how the 3 first bay movies still look better than the recent ones. The CGI is just great.
And the sounds second 👌
@@247.mp4 Thats because the VFX were great, but Bay also filmed alot of practice stuff with the CGI, so that it looks real.
The VFX were just as good in AOE and TLK, but the cinematography took a nosedive.
ROTB is just worse in every singe way. The CGI quality is worse, the desighns are worse, the cinematography is worse, and too top it off, there is nothing in the background of the movie
I am always in awe with the vfx of these movies. Brilliant minds especially for 2009.
Top-of-the-line PC hardware in 2009 for a home PC would have:
> Intel Core i7 or AMD Phenom II X4/X6 series
> NVIDIA GeForce GTX 285 or ATI Radeon HD 5870
> 6GB to 12GB of DDR3 RAM
I know ILM had render farms to deal with the final output but for sure its no wonder they said it took sometimes an hour to save their 3d file a project of that magnitude at that time would've been hell to work with and go knows how laggy that file got when the model had all its high res textures and maps applied.
Meanwhile my rtx 3070 wouldn't even sweat doing that. Hardware has come a long way
Pretty sure it would be in tears lmao, high res fotoreal CGI is still pretty taxing
@@Carrion0409 I can assure you my 4090 would sweat so your midgey cricket certainly would
@@Carrion0409 The geometry is loaded by the disc and processor, the GPU is used for load textures or render in most cases, so your 3070 would sweat for sure if your other hardware couldnt handle the file
Safe to say that the Devastator literally destroyed the computers because of how many components he was made up of
Unpopular Opinion but this Design for devastator is 100x time better than his G1 counterpart.
true...
At this point this is completely different from the original character. Only the name is the same, and the fact that he is made out of construction vehicle Decepticons.
What? No, it never will be. This design could've easily been the greatest in the movie franchise, but no, they had to give him those balls for comedic reasons
Yes
Personally' the design for devastator is so good and fits his g1 lore, but i really wish they explored the bots that made up devastator bc they are a well of lore. Most of the designs in the movies from 1-3 are amazing but fell off in 4 and 5 (excluding the dino bots in 4 bc they were amazing). They did my boy jetfire so dirty tho.
Christ, Michael Bay can't have a CG scene in his films without causing an explosion in the real world!
we need a devastator pc stress test
By today's standards, a phone could render this. This was almost 20 years ago. The average video game has scenes 100x as complicated as this now.
@@shotwell25fr? I thought that even a modern high-level pc would stress a lot
@@Pagano33 fuck no not even close. It wouldn't be done instantly or anything, but it could render it pretty much effortlessly very quickly
@@shotwell25 *WTFK are you talking about? LOL*
This thing has more geometry in itself that the whole map in RDR2, wich render engine (RAGE) literally needs to unload objects and other stuff to prevent our PCs from crashing... and youre saying that "a phone could render this" HELL NO 🤣
@@arieldario3849 Kids just don't understand
I dont care what other people and critics say about BayVerse Transformers movie. It was majestic!
*HECK YEAH*
Indeed
all this just to appear for less than 30 seconds
Yeah definitely not 30 seconds
Devastator and the constructcons are the only reason why I love this movie when I saw them as a kid i immediately loved them I love this design not that I love the g1 I like the g1 design to but this design is what I grew up with and this movie made Devastator my number one favorite transformer ever and I wish they use him again with theses new movies!
These aren’t great movies but you must admit that the effects are just incredible, better than some movies today.
The fact that michael saw the Devastator that destroyed a cpu and said: "Isn't detailed enough" is probabilly one of the most Bay things that bay has ever done
Looks better than any CGI today, apart from Avatar 2.
every transformers movie is badass accept rise of the beast which is recent released.
the efforts they put in these movies at that time is so mind blowing. nowadays movies hardly achieve this realistic-ness
I have, but haven't seen, Rise of the Beast, but everything that I have seen of the scenes makes me kind of regret getting it (albeit 10 bucks on black friday).
@@silencedmaxim5889 for story purpose u can watch it but graphically and VFX - cally it's not that good. Micheal Bay is a different build. his every movie is unique. I wish they ll let him direct next movies. he always focus on lighting. and once u achieved greatness in lighting, ur character ll look so realistic. plus there are some candid shots in previous movies. if u ll watch these movies u ll notice that VFX team put so much efforts even in very minimal shots even if it's there for few seconds. u won't say these characters in transformers are VFX or CGI probably u ll say it's set, they made those characters in real life size and made some chages, add some effects for movie. but now, in rise of the beast that realistic ness is gone. like in some shots frame rate of transformers doesn't even match frame rate of surroundings. it's bit laggy. fuck man I m die hard fan of these movies accept last one. I can write book in which I ll appreciate Micheal Bay and whole VFX crew.
Nah rise of the beasts was good. Not good cgi wise but good for what it is
@@YISTECH no shit sherlock
Revenge of The Fallen will always be one of my favorite Transformers movies because of Devastator
This will always be my favorite devistator design
The best CGI scene of all time 🙌🏽
They can say what they want , but these movies were peak cinema 🎦
This video did put a lot of things into the perspective, VFX/CGI guys are the soul of these movies, just WOW!
0:18 so that means the og film plates been recorded in 4:3 aspect ratio? and the on montage it was stretched to fit with cgi?
Bros hardware devastated by devastator itself
CGI really peaked in the mid-late 2000s. We have directors like Peter Jackson, James Cameron and Michael Bay that actually understands the use of VFX that people in the future would still appreciate. Nowadays, the superhero era movies with their cheap looking CGI is something that brings market becoming oversaturated.
I really like this movies, my childhood are in this movies :)
So many explosions that it causes explosions! Bay took a FAT w with this.
I miss the bayverse 😢
Imagine if we gave these people our modern technology to make this film (threadripper pro rtx 4090 or something) could only imagine what else they'd have been able to accomplish
Imagine if we gave VFX artists the proper time and money for the work they put in instead of giving the slave wage for slave hours. Seriously, the VFX has gone downhill since the 2010s.
they have all that crap and what you see on Disney+ is what you get. A lot of really good people left ILM and VFX in general after 2010. It's a factory of kids who work cheap now. Still some good people there but far outnumbered.. doesn't help that the projects are shite too.
@@macabo yea! that's why we need real artists, not some 'ia' bs random rendering.
We people can do our things and be proud that it was done.
The movies might not have been the best. But these VFX artists are truly a generational talent. I couldn't even fathom where to start on this.
back when vfx wasn't a dirty word and studios embraced vfx and proudly showcased the craft and hard work goes into making vfx.
well what about Dune ?
it isn't a dirty word they do it now more than ever
I loved this as a kid, I wanted a toy version so badly 😂
This quite helpful to know that the renders destroyed their tech, I’m learning blender and 3d animation at the moment and it hurts so badly when things freeze 😭😭
If they had the advanced technology like today he would’ve been more complex than he already was. Devastator is like a final boss to Voltron instead of transformers.
To this day this was the best decepticon in terms of impressiveness
imagine if they did unicron with those computers! a computer would've either blew up or melted!
In the words of Devastator to all PCs who dare try to open him, “PREPARE FOR EXTERMINATION!!”
A bit disappointing how niche screen time was given to such a time-consuming asset
Wait until you see the big futuristic CG cities, cars, and even ships created for Blade Runner 2047 which was barely visible behind the fog and the dark of the night LOL
1:17 Do not attempt this at all.
thanks dude, I was about to load up the most complex CGI model ever created in humanity on my home computer at once 🙏🙏
A close-up with unicron would have nuked the whole studio
transformers rise of the beasts with their rtx 3090 would say "hold my beer" easily. lmao
Literally the chaos bringer
Fantastic
This was very much my favourite of all the Transformers, for the scale and complexity as well as all the Sick Optimus accessories.
as convuluted as these movies got, the CGI never failed to amaze, it is ILM so thats no biggie but damn
I love this how they made in so much detail
Part of me wishes now that they would rerelease a version of this film on IMAX 70mm
I have a pirate copy of the imax version
"You can see more, so we get away with less"
Current Marvel: sounds like a challenge
bro even the action figure.. devastator is the most badass
i really wish there was a 70mm open mat print copy we could watch somewhere
Amerikan istihbaratı ILM gibi tüm vfx stüdyolarına bak. Lucas Arts vb. Atom bombası olması muhtemel.
"Devastator devastated our machine" ☠️
So complex it devastated a freakin conputer
watching this movie in the theatre as a kid was PEAK! the CGI was good, linklin park was back and yeah the story was mid but who cares lol, its a michael bay joint. the action made up for it
I guess the New Nividia GPUS with the latest AI and Graphic drivers will handle these VFX easily in seconds 😮
in seconds? nuh i don't think so
It'll handle it much better definitely. But in seconds ? I think that's a bit too much to ask
Not so fast but Easy yes
I remember so impressed by this scene, This and Avenger End game scene are the Best
End Game isn't really that impressive. It's just all the known heroes gathered up to fight Thanos and his army. Emotional because we get to see the culmination of all those years put to rest? Absolutely, but it's not impressive.
@@silencedmaxim5889 okay...? It's my opinion dude, fck off
And this was made in 2009! I wonder how much time will be needed to render with top tier home PC in 2024
Imagine them trying to render Unicron with this tech.
Talk about the Chaos Bringer
absolutely masterpiece
Amazing movie❤❤❤
Jason Smith you absolute legend ❤
These old movies have far far far way better realistic graphics than todays garbage cgi in movies . Man, can't believe they made a whole movie with such weak hardware back in the days .
this is the first transformer to break the 4th wall.
It was so realistic back in the day, but now ROTB look so unrealistic. Especially when some of the Maximals were moving fast
This gonna be my favorite image from now on.💀 1:30
Lego devastator is famous
First 3 transformers cgi is beyond realistic now it’s all cartoons
I wonder how well modern hardware handles Devastator today.
michael bay soupir mean a lot at the end
What the hell it was made on that boxy monitors and old pcs 😮
Michael Bay : Not detailed enough.
VFX ARTIST : 😐
devestator living up to his name
"when I loaded the whole entire creature on my machine and tried to get it over to our proprietary software" holy fucking shit what a convoluted way to say she tried to open the rig in maya and it crashed
VFX artist are so uderrated. They make thing like this but people act like "Duh cgi garbage, use special effects instead"
Exactly. Most of the times, they don't know jacksh*t about any vfx. They just critisize them.
Most "garbage" CGI is often because the vfx artist wasn't given enough time by the studio and treated like shit
*cough marvel
More heart and soul than BB and ROTB
more heart and soul went into BB and ROTB as well
@@jgstudios117 HAHAHHAHAHAHHAAHAHA
Nope
The Bayformers movies have ZERO heart put into them (in terms of storytelling), because Michael Bay doesn't care about _Transformers._ Hell, he doesn't even treat the Transformers themselves as characters; more as vehicles (pun intended) for pornographic violence.
_Bumblebee_ had ACTUAL heart and told a story. _Rise of the Beasts_ could've used a bit more work for sure. But I'd rather watch _Bumblebee_ and _Rise of the Beasts_ for the rest of my life than ever watch the Bayformers movies ever again.
@@alobaymarBayformers sucks at story dude, if only he focussed on characters and plot.
Ok who the hell watches transformers for the story lmfao, people only care about the awesome visuals and hot women we don't need story about those robots
Even the pros have rendering problems..I feel better now
Appropriately named!
I like this version of Devastator, but why were the Constructicons and the combined form of Devastator in two separate places at once in the movie?
i have a question like how the computers are even able to handle the scene ??even if the ram is 128 its still not enough.
I'm not familiar with the programs they used or any specific details but i can make an educated guess. The Assets most likely are low polly on the inside of the Devastator and a lot of parts were probably instanced, meaning it only has to load one part and the other identical parts are very light copy of it computing wise. Also the same textures are most likely used on many parts. Re-using textures can safe a lot of memory.
It swallows the van but the people stand still. Are the people heavier?
I don't like the 'Bayformers' as a concept, neither the movies...because is a mess...BUT the VFX of the first 3 movies are so well done, so much passion and hard work... this was the time when you were going to Cinemas to see impossible things come to life, in High detail... mesmerizing.
Derek just had the scare of his life
Didn't know the plate was shot on _the_ IMAX!
And that's why the new transformer universe will never be as good as bayverse
1:19 🔥😭😂
dude this model might have nearly 500000000000000000000000000 vertices
this was the render that melted the computer right?
0:30 i thought that person was ken jeong until i opened the audio
1:27 how does a processor overload smoke a keyboard?
0:30 WTH FR so DEVASTATOR LITERALLY destroy a computer without physically touching it
What did you used to enhance audio?
Jesus I’m surprised devastator was even in the movie.
the real question i have is how the fuck did they manage to fling the van
The ways I can think of are: 1. It was attached to a cable, and on the given cue, they retracted the cable, and away the van went, after which, they erased the cable digitally. 2. It was rigged to an air cannon that blasted it up into the air and sent it flying away.
the van was cgi
Look closely in the beginning, a cable is attached to it and I think the crane in the background pulls it back.
Hilarious they were outputting to 2K thinking that was state of the art. An RTX 4090 could probably render their scenes today without a problem.
Back when transformers was good
modern laptop could load it now lol. still waiting for a proper combiner though
this was 15 years ago!