VFX Artists React to Bad & Great CGi 74
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CHAPTERS ►
00:00 Intro
01:07 Black Widow
04:00 Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom
07:32 Transformers (2007)
10:51 Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen
14:45 Vessi Shoes
16:47 Outro 
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Lol I support ya especially after you rented the movie to see the shot 🤣 and still be in denial lol
The part with the miss aligned smoke I probably intentional because the sickle goes into grindors head and probably broke a wire connected to the eye
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Hahaha "not that bad" as he totally misses the miniature explosion coming out Jordan points out next time 🤣
That movie was a dumpster fire, Scarlett deserved way better. Bad effects wouldn't matter if the writing was good, but it's so ham fisted. I mean having them laugh and joke while an avalanche murders an entire prison is like DCEU levels of apathy to massive scales of death hahaha
Transformers still have one of the best CGI and VFX tp this day and no one can change my mind on that.
It gets so much flack but I agree. They did something other people were afraid of, harsh sunlight CGI effects with realistic cars to robots and they did it amazingly. The very fact that Transformers lost best visuals to golden compass is the sole reason I boycott the Oscars. Havent watched it since. Even Pirates of the Caribbean 3 should have won over golden compass. I know it's a silly thing to boycott a show over, but I've stuck to it.
The visuals in Transformers was LITERALLY never been done before technology. There is a reason we see a lot of night and rain shots in heavy cgi films, it's easier to hide the visuals. ILM did something groundbreaking and for some reason polar bears, something Coke has been doing in ads for decades (obviously not at the level of detail) gets the win...over realistic transforming cars to robots.
Fax dude
No debate
So true
Too bad the plot is poopoo. Still, its the shit that my inner child likes haha
So much work went into those Transformer's shots that will go unnoticed by most people, but Black Widow shows us that people definitely notice when it's _not_ there.
Good vfx is vfx that you don't notice! :P
@@igotin9264 thats usually the vfx that wins oscars at the end of the day. People forget what is the main criteria and its just your sentence.
I don’t think the bad effects shot from Black Widow is a demonstration of NOT putting work in, especially when the films overall effects work fluctuates between bad and phenomenal in certain places. One of the things Ive appreciated about this channel is the entire team giving insight into the world of professional effects work and how the quality of it all depends on the Venn diagram of money/time/quality. Since watching these vids it’s amazing to see just how much work they (fx artists) do under circumstances that aren’t in their control?
@@langleymneely Plus, as pointed out in the video, Black Widow had to juggle Covid restrictions on top of all that.
The issue with the Transformers movies is that a lot of transformations are really hard to read. At least to me.
The Transformers still holds some of the most impressive CGI. They have to move fast, shoot, fight, break apart and still look as realistic as possible.
*unfortunately Bumblebee and the new trilogy will never be as big.*
@@TerminatorTheory wym bumblebee did good
@@azy9057 *look at the fucking box office it only consisted of G1 fans, not the main audience*
@@TerminatorTheory yeah it did great now stfu
@@TerminatorTheory *why are you typing like that*
13:08
"Maybe I'm just in denial"
On the bright side, acknowledging that you were in denial is the first step to acceptance.
Of course you are here aswell
@@T.a.c.o arrogance is not the same as putting yourself out there
The bright side will be when you stop commenting. Gtfoh trashbot
Sir, with respect, shoo.
It just had to be deliberate.
Wren's reaction to the smoke puff was exactly as if he was defending himself or someone he knows from putting it there. He looks so so pissed off and I love it
@Don't Read My Profile Photo O.K
It's one of those things impossible to unsee once they point it out.
He is so stubborn to admit he is wrong at times that it is frustrating to watch.
@@Dekkuran we all do it, but few will eventually admit their mistake and come round. That's a rare quality.
@@Dekkuran Thing with Wren is sometime he exxagerate so much some times, and overreact all the times.
Sometimes he always talk over certain guest or his friends. it's like he's trying to have all the attention at all times. Just sayin not hatin on him, for some people he's lovely but.... i don't know
Say what you will about the story and acting in the Transformers movies, but the VFX and action scenes were absolutely amazing. Pure popcorn fun.
Agreed 🔥
They're still some of my childhood favorites. At this point they're guilty pleasure
@@myuugi I love incoherent noise!
I really liked the Transformer movies, just brainless fun with Popcorn, a beer and a few friends.
Movies don't have to be masterpieces or try to discover the human condition ^^
Exept for aoe and tlk
As much as Michael Bay's movies are being laughed at and mocked these days, you have to respect the amount of work those shots must have taken, I'm an architect and the effort that I put in designing, modeling and then rendering and photoshop is already full for me just to get that realism for 3D shots. And that's only or immobile structures, but the transformers are constantly moving.
You can thank ILM for that. 😉
@@GuillaumeB7 Bay was still part of the process. As a director you are managing all parts of the production, in case you didn’t know. He did a lot of work in how he managed to blend the practical and digital effects so seamlessly.
Sadly I dont think ppl care about the process nowadays. Only the results.
@@rw0dyxer012 I’m saying
@@rw0dyxer012 Since these kinds of videos that go in depth are incredibly popular, that is wrong. SO many people are amazed by the process. But we still want good results.
Transformers has the world's most perfect CGI. I STAND BY IT
You guys probably spent more renting the movie than they did on that smoke effect!
Wren's denial being owned was funny lol
@@BrayOfTheDonkey I don’t blame him tho, even I was too. That was prob one of the most bad ass fight scenes in movie history and I just found out that it contains the most childish movie mistake 😭
@Henzo8i8 the amazon prime copy is the closest you can get to the movie being unchanged. Torrenting it could still yield the same rip mistakes like what Wren was claiming for the YT version
@@vichilfgalanida4010 i thin he means hopefully the transformers crew torrented that crappy smoke puff 😂
@@vichilfgalanida4010 A bd-rip or a webDL is gonna be identical. The YT thing they're talking about is youtube compressing the video. I believe it also converts 24fps footage to 30/60fps 'cause YT doesn't support cinematic framerate.
Y'all should do "Sound Designers React!"
Like: How they made the T-Rex or Godzilla roar; How they make sounds for creatures that don't even exist (the head rip scene); Even the subtle ways they have to add basic clothing, movement, and walking sounds into animated films.
You know those punch and gun sounds in old action movies? WHAT IS THAT?
That would be cool. I worked at a pig farm once and a guy came out to record their morning breakfast screaming (they had a routine and made sure we knew it lol) said it was gonna be used for a monster cry in a theme park. Wish I knew where so I could hear the final result!
YEAH
@@Whofan06 wow
indeed
I LOVE THIS IDEA
Love that you covered Temple of Doom, but the scene I want to see your reaction to is the moment where they’re hanging on the rope bridge above the river with the henchmen falling off while crocodiles are swimming below.
There’s a lot of compositing work in that particular shot and it’s all done using an old school optical printer with hand painted rotoscoped masks for the people in the foreground.
There’s a classic VFX documentary from the 1980’s called ‘How to film the impossible’ which shows all the behind scene steps. I want the crew, who have been raised in the world of CGI VFX to realize just how Labour intensive this process was.
I mean you teased me with the shot of Indy holding the machete, and didn’t deliver!
"Hulloooo, Scott Manley here, randomly showing up in your youtube comments on a corridor digital video!" Think we can get the CD guys to evaluate the rendering on KSP 2? :O
@@ProtusMose shush
Fly safe.
Have you considered joining in on one of the episodes to review vfx and realism in space movies? That'd be dope.
Yes, a realism in space VFX episode with Scott would be great. Ask him about the missing heat blankets in Apollo 13. Or how black holes in cinema have affected real world science.
Transformers blew me away when it came out. Truly amazing.
Happy to see someone saying what I've been saying about Transformers (and Iron Man) for years.
Seeing robotic pieces move and shift into place in the early movies is INFINITELY better than seeing a mush of programmable matter, nanobots and nonsense blend together.
sometimes being up to date on the latest tech ain't gonna make movie magic... panels makes movie magic.
It’s crazy how the transformers movies looked worse with each sequel. CGI looked bad, shots had so little thought put in them, the style of the designs got way worse.
(Tho Bumblebee would be an exception to this)
It's been the trend for the past 15-20 years or so to take a beloved thing begging for a remake, and completely disregard what made it cool in the first place. Everyone wants to inject their "artistic vision' and in so doing, insult a whole community 😆
Sliding panels is right! It should've been big chunks rotating and connecting in a moderate tempo. Instead we got the spiky mishmash of colors and too many and small details.
As a kid who grew up on Transformers, I was so disappointed. It's conflicting seeing such awesome and beautiful effects can make something so ugly.
@@highviewarts not really. They looked fine
Totally agree, the nanosuit was especially dreadful in Spiderman
You guys didn't mention it, but it drives me nuts: the trajectory and acceleration of Yelena's fall away from the explosion are contributing a lot to why that shot gets roasted. It really *looks* like she was being pulled away from the top middle of her back, rather than being pushed up and away by the explosion at her feet.
Yes, the physics of that is jarringly bad.
and when the explosion first happen, when the camera is still on a close up or smt, the scale of everything is wrong
Yeah it REALLY takes you out of the scene. I always go back to it like "what didn't they pull her straight vs up and at that weird angle?" It doesn't help that her body position with her arms and legs facing downward it immediately makes your brain think she SHOULD have been knocked DOWNWARD be upward
Save that one for stunt performers react lol
it *looks* that way because you *know* how it's done!
it's like someone revealing the magic trick and then you still expect to be impressed after you know how it's done
you can notice the exact same issues in every single superhero movie from the past 10 years... without exception!
the vfx is bad because there is no need to make it look better!
this quality is more than sufficient - especially for the tight time constraints they have with these movies
nobody cares anymore to make a shot look perfect - it's enough if it's acceptable!
people would still watch it several times - even if there's black window 2, 3, 4... or however many numbers they chose to make...
the amount of audience in the cinema will not change - at all!
and they know that!
12:48 I can’t believe Amazon chose that scene with Shia’s face looking all stupid as their cover for the movie 🤣
Why wouldn't they?
lmaoo
I have watched Temple of Doom SO many times. The first time was on opening weekend at the theater. I had NO FREAKING IDEA that the minecart chase was miniatures. When you paused it to show the dolls my head exploded.
mind freaking blown lmao
I just re-watched that Indiana Jones movie recently and I had NO CLUE there was any stop motion. It holds up really really well
The 'Camera Cars' in that scene had 35mm still cameras with large film magazines that could fit through the tunnels.
Even seeing those clips in this context They looked really good. Like I got it was miniature environment but nothing stood out as wierd with the people in the carts.
I've always noticed the low frames in some parts but never knew about the DOLLS!!!
Same with Jurrasic Park. Special Effects is amazing!
The camera shake is the brilliant part. It hides SO MANY problems with the models that would be obvious if the camera was steady. But instead, yeah, it blends so well with the live-action that it's almost impossible to see without freeze-framing.
Starscream's midair transformation, pause and afterburner was fucking amazing when I first saw it.
I feel in love with bayformets designs after getting some statues of them,the detail was insane.Bayformers had some awesome designs and cgi in the hands of a crap director.Personally would like to see the first three movies optimus design revisited once more under good direction
He is a great director and directed the movies as best as he could, if you look to blame anyone than blame the damn writers
Blame Steven Spielberg for it
I blame the writers
I disagree. Bay is one of the few directors I have ever seen capable of making some awesome looking CGI shots because he somehow already can see the end result of what exactly he wants from that weird angle shot almost no other director dares and vfx artist just deliver. It is a lot easier to just film a normal scene and let vfx fix it but not him, that is something I truly admire about bay, he is fully aware where the CGI goes in his scenes and makes the best out of it.
rewatching another early 2000 gem: Watchmen. This movie has some of the cleanest hand to hand combat that shows the difference between a superhero (even without powers) and thugs. perhaps in your next stunt/fight coordinator guests can shed some light into this movie
I rewatched this movie a couple days ago and it's a godamn masterpiece; the pinnacle of what Snyder is capable of and his style...
That shot of Starscream taking off is genuinely one of my favorite moments out of all the transformers movies
Everything Everywhere All At Once deserves a VFX react and a stuntmen react
Yea, that movie was amazing! The fannypack fight was hilarious.
Yes please
Yes please
AGREE! An entire episode dedicated to that movie.
But also, they should wait a while so that people who haven't seen it yet don't get spoilers. I know, they could just not watch the episode, but still :-P
@@TomWDW1 +1!!
Man the bayformers Were ONE OF THE MOST BADASS CGi I've ever seen, From the robots to the Explosions and action, Man I loved watching the movies,
Even if the plots were messy, It still brong in some good action.
I love it when Sam can't contain his laughter, it's so contagious
I would love to see a “worst of” green screen, especially in marvel movies. Sometimes the vfx are so great but the green screen elements are really rough and make the whole shot look cheesy. Maybe balance it with some really great green screen shots. To keep it from getting too negative
Check out the three women spotting the murdered jeweller in "The Kitchen": by far the worst green screen to make it into a recent film. The fringes are fine, but *everything* is in sharp focus.
there is one scene in Avengers Infinity War where mark ruffalo is in the hulkbuster ironman suit while the fight with thanos and it looks soo wonky
@@zyreKeK dude, check who it is your talking to. He knows.
@@missingdev0948 you honestly think that's him?
@@Matkatamiba It’s just a joke.
ALTHOUGH it would be hilarious if it WAS Mark on one of those ‘undercover’ accounts.
I was always so pissed that no Transformers movie ever got an Oscar for visual effects. Goddamn should it ever have....
You know what's worse? It was nominated in 2008 along with The Golden Compass and Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End
...and The Golden Compass won, despite having Less impressive and realistic VFX compared to the other nominees!
But doesn't the clutter detract from it? I almost feel tired watching a vfx-heavy scene from those movies unfold and barely understanding what's going on visually
@@PetersonSilva I never got confused as to what was what, and even in your case - doesn't change how technically impressive it all is.
@@DarkDekicDuka My biggest problem with the Transformer effects, is that it's basically a nano-cloud transformation: fluid, like the T-1000. The 80's transformers were solid parts that moved from robot mode to vehicle mode. It was much easier to follow that, than to follow a character who's basically fluid, and can mold fluidly into whatever they want to look like. They even had that Decepticon that looked identical to a girl, to lure Sam Witicky in.
@@apreviousseagle836 this is only a problem in the 5th movie
7:38 It's the first live action Transformers movie not the first Transformers movie. That would be 1986's The Transformers the Movie (which just happened to be technically the second Marvel big screen movie).
You guys have done so many VFX artist react that I can’t remember every movie that’s been covered. If you haven’t already covers Moon with Sam Rockwell, the movie has great acting and writing for one, but also amazing visual effects, Specifically in the AI character GERTY, and the flawless cloning effect of Sam Rockwell. Keep up the great videos guys!
The Transformers's franchises's storytelling wasn't that great. Some had decent/good writing, others were just terrible. But you have to admit, the CGI and the VFX especially during the first film in 2007 was amazing. It still holds up really well nowadays which you don't often see a lot.
Also, the soundtrack by Steve Jablonsky was beautiful
God, I love that man. His music are still my favourite 15 years later, especially in the 2017 movie and stuff from games like Gears of War 2 and 3
The best part of the Bayverse storywise is the IDW Tie-In Comics. Adds a lot of world building to the universe.
CGI in Marvel films is very generic, you can't deny the CGI in Transformers feels very metallic and kinetic.
They are honestly as much as term guilty pleasure gets. The first three movies especially are great in my opinion, even though as a kid I didnt like many jokes and not necceseary elements. But the visuals, plus the intensity of the plot (even though plot itself isnt the best, but is still tense, so it works in the areas it needs to work), those building sized metal monsters chasing little humans and fighting above their heads is terryfing to me and also so cool.
I'm so glad people are finally giving VFX the RESPECT they deserve for this movie. It's incredible. They had over TEN. THOUSAND. MOVING PARTS for Optimus to render and always keep moving since he's a living robot not just....a robot. And this was like what 2005 06 post production for a movie out in summer 2007. I'm gonna die on the hill that if it weren't for transformers we WOULD NOT have action movies like we do today. After the Sept attacks Hollywood stayed far away from action for a while with movies like Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings dominating the box office. Then this movies trailer came out and the hype was insane. I'll never forget seeing it opening night. People cheered 3 times; when Optimus first speaks, when the autobots arrive, and Optimus arriving to battle. God they are such a good time in theaters lol
From what I've read, Black Widow officially wrapped filming on Oct. 6th, 2019, so I wouldn't really call that a COVID movie. It was also suppose to go into theaters like a month after lockdown hit, so the special effects were pretty much done....if anything, that's just MORE embarrassing for the filmmakers, since they essentially had two extra years to improve the visuals, but for some reason didn't. Lol
Yeah what the hell
they really didnt give a fuck
Wow
maybe they didn't want to spend any more money on it, put it on the side for covid, and got tired of waiting just to put it on streaming immediately
Reshoots
TO THIS DAY, every transformers movie’s CGI is some of the best
One of the great things about the Indy mine-cart chase miniature is that a lot of the cave walls were just tinfoil crumpled and then spray painted brown.
I think we need a whole episode dedicated to the fight scenes of "Everything Everywhere All at Once"
Absolutely!!!!
Agreed!
That would be a great idea. I personally didn't understand the film's hype but I would like to see an episode on it.
@@nichescenes It was darker than the other marvel movies though, maybe that turned it off to some people?
Some of the non-fight scenes had some wild VFX as well, I'd love an episode about EEAAO in general!
Transformers was way ahead of its time. It holds up to this day
Transformers is so good for the VFX and also the audio. Such a fun movie to watch with a good audio system.
The episodes where they take these super dope shots and find the tiniest detail to critique for 5 minutes is why I love this show. Absolutely top tier :')
To be fair though, that smoke vfx was the equivalent of putting the finishing touches of your $5,000,000 sculpture with Play-Doh.
Cgi Seinfeld
The first transformers was a pivotal moment in film making. It was the movie that finally said, CGI can be realistic. A lot of it also helped make Iron Man.
ILM was involved in both right?
@@PrograError yep
I love this series. Not only do I get your perspective, but you've introduced me to movies I'd never heard of
You've probably had this suggestion for a while, but you guys should look over Chip and Dale Rescue Rangers. The dynamic of all the Seth Rogen animated characters alone is worth an explanation (like, do the animators bring in models from other movies or do they re create the models, and just how it's done in general)
Please look at "Everything Everywhere All At Once". The makers taught themselves VFX and it is amazing. You mentioned it and it was really impressive.
Yesss pls do a stuntman react too!!!
@12:44 that poorly timed smoke puff was the start of many mistakes to come lol
And yet ,for the most part , the subsequent movies still looked awesome . Great to see you here!
I'm not sure if this was already covered maybe on the website but I just finished rewatching all of the Pirates of the Caribbean movies and Salazar's hair effects in Dead Men Tell No Tales really stood out to me. I would love to see you guys cover how they did those flowing effects while keeping his movements natural.
I have seen Temple of Doom… at least a hundred times. I never even considered the Mine Cart Chase being stop motion, it looks astonishingly real
Petition for a full length VFX video of Wren, Sam, and Niko fixing the smoke puff from Revenge of the Fallen, then re-releasing the Puff Cut.
7:05 Wren feels like Sam and Niko went too far lol.
I KNEW IT!!!!!! I just watched Everything Everywhere All At Once (cuz i tweeted you guys a fight scene from it for your stuntmen react cuz its just so sweet) and the whole time i'm watching, and whenever i heard him talk I'm can hear ''Dr Jones, Dr Jones'' in my head, and just the iconic way he sounded in that and the goonies, and I'm like ''that has to be him'' so thankyou for confirming that. My god. wow. I loved this movie, its crazy and has some wild VFX, i really hope you guys get to dive into this movie a few times.
As a VFX lover and a longtime Corridor fan, Ive always been hesitant to get into this VFX Artists React series fsr, but since I watched one a few days ago, Ive been binge watching them all.
Maybe y’all could eventually do a “prehistoric planet” segment. Some decent looking cgi with real world backdrops. Would love to know more.
"Decent looking cgi"... You mean great looking CGI.
"Decent" is a bit harsh, most of the shots are amazing and some of the close-ups are outright flawless.
They must have used some animatronics there.
@@YourMJK agree that closeups are flawless, i was thinking more puppet+mocap. In general the full-body animations are rough though imo
Prehistoric Planet has the greatest CGI dinosaurs ever put in any documentary, and it rivals those of JP.
They did that with Disney dinosaur. Used real landscape and added the dinosaurs in
You guys should definitely check out Tucker & Dale Vs. Evil, they got some brutal scenes & some amazing practical effects.
Yessss!
I worked on that! I did the chainsaw fight sequence.
@@darrendecoursey740 you should be proud!
@@darrendecoursey740 thats awesome! one of my fav movies
i would love to see them pick that movie. it's so awesome
I loved the Temple of Doom breakdown. That scene blew my mind as a kid and I spent years remembering it and trying to figure out how they made it.
A great series to look, primarily for make up and practical effects (especially Puppetry) would be Farscape (which was made by Jim Henson's company). Having just rewatched the series, seeing some of the work, especially with the Pilot & Rygel characters/puppets, let alone the makeup, would be a great (part of an) episode.
The Black Widow shot has nothing to do with the comping or the greenscreen (although it does make it look rather cheap).
It's all about the physics. Her wire work is awful, it doesn't look like she is flying in the right trajectory nor is her body responding to the force of the explosion as it should. Plus, the fact that she survives an explosion at such close range like that without it killing her.
The entire sequence is ridiculous.
Either she is being accelerated faster than gasses escaping an explosion in which case she would be dead or the explosion had no flash, visible flames or shockwave which is physically impossible. They should have added a flash and fireball to obscure her. The way she was blown back was comic in effect rather than dramatic, like A bugs. Bunny cartoon. She should have had root in her face and hair standing up yo complete the comic effect.
@@choreomaniac agreed my family member and i though the cgi was good but not great when we saw black widow on Disney plus last year🙂
@@only257 haven’t seen it but what I have seen is pretty ridiculous (that scene, the uterus humor, the nose breaking scene).
Just terrible
nononono IT HAS to do with the comping, who cares about physiscs, Fast and Furios always use physic from Namec planet but nobody complains because at least it looks decent
Please do Everything Everywhere All At Once. Specifically, Ke Huy Quan’s fight scene which he performed himself! 😃 Plus, the movie what phenomenal as well.
Yes! Have the Stunt Coordinators on the couch!
A few months back my shoes were in pretty rough shape and I'd been considering buying a new pair, watched a Corridor video sponsored by Vessi, figured I'd give 'em a shot. I've been very happy with them. The waterproof thing has been really nice, particularly through the spring when sometimes I'd have to walk through puddles, and my socks stayed perfectly dry in situations where I was expecting them to get a little wet. And they've been good running shoes too!
This is the episode I have been waiting for!!! Love to see Transformers getting some love here!
I’m sure it’s coming up, but you guys have gotta react to Everything Everywhere All At Once. That movie definitely needs more eyes on it!
yes, such an amazing movie
I see what you did there lol 👀
Also there are 5 people in total doing the vfx for that movie, basically the equivalent of making a Corridor video lol
@@LeoNguyenex That's insane, it's got a lot of practical stuff (of the top of my head I can only think of a couple main VFX-heavy scenes and one or two CGI objects out of all the action) but that still seems really low.
@Don't Read My Profile Photo okay
Black Widow was filmed from May to October 2019. Some of the post-production was done during the pandemic, but not all.
It was meant to be released in May 2020. It was absolutely finished, or at least very close, when lockdown started. They sat on the film for over a year.
Yeah it was supposed to come out may 2020, so you’d expect a lot to have been done before the pandemic
@@matthewungar601 see im always confused what exaclty are the rules about those delays, like with No Time To Die sat finished for a long while, did they edit or change it in that time?
Reshoots were during
@@GuineaPigEveryday Disney has very strict rules about its movies competing with each other for box office tickets. So if a movie gets delayed on production for a week it might take a while before they have an open box office release date that doesn’t conflict with another marvel or Star Wars or Disney movie
i really want them to react to highway scene and the starscream death scene in the third transformers movie. As a kid really getting into animation and cgi stuff i was super impressed at the risk they took making 3d models of Shia Lebouf and blending it in with actual footage of him in certain scenes. I wanna know what they thought of it though
Glad you guys finally covered that black widow shot because I never thought it was that egregious either
So glad you guys finally took a good look at Transformers! They are huge parts of my childhood and there was a lot of effort and hardwood put into the cgi that I would say a lot of it still holds up today.
Same bro I agree
I wish the same cgi/animation team worked for the 4th and 5th movie. You can see there's a real difference on how both eras were approached. 5th was an improvement but like they said, there's still an obvious lack of momentum in most scenes. At least they made the final battle a real joy to watch (and the Dinobots Charge finale in the 2014 one)
I have never been a fan of the unfolding out of nothing effect. That said, the coolest use of that type of effect in my opinion and experience was the briefcase Iron Man suit.
I really like that the suit looks sleeker than his regular suits. Really shows it was exclusively for emergencies and you could almost, almost believe it can fit in that briefcase.
Just rewatched the "The Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe", you guys should totally do something on that! The last battle in particular has it all, huge mix of practical and digital, some good (griffins, real creatures with CG legs), some bad (giants), and some thoroughly mediocre 2000s "photoreal" animals. Love you guys' work!
Great stuff! I was wondering if you had ever looked at the effects of "2001: A Space Odyssey", particularly the way they put moving people into the windows of the various spaceships and control rooms. Thinking of the Aries 1B ship landing on the moon and then the elevator taking the whole thing below surface. Thanks! If you have, then I missed it and will look it up.
In all the years I've watched and re-watched Temple of Doom I have never given the minecart chase a second thought in terms of visual effects. I never would've guessed dolls were involved. Thank you for completely shattering my perception of reality once again. :)
Wren was really fighting for them getting the smoke puff right and you can see that they failed him
This week, in honor of the new Top Gun, I watched "The Final Countdown" again. That is a 1980 film about a US aircraft carrier out of Pearl Harbor that is drawn through a time storm portal back to December 6, 1941. Mostly it's real Navy guys doing real Navy things with real Navy gear, but it does splash out a dollar or two on the time storm portal, which is all odd decisions but does the job for 1980. What really made me think of you guys is the exploding helicopter near the end. It's a jaw-dropper.
2:45 no, this movie was initially scheduled to be released in May 2020, two months after theaters were shutting down. By the time it was delayed, filming was already done, and they didn't do any reshoots during the pandemic. The film's director said it went untouched for an entire year, so there wasn't any pandemic problems regarding the filming portion.
Absolutely love the first Transformers movie. Everything felt like it had more gravitas and now I understand why. Awesome vid!
Completely agree about the scale issue at the cinemas. I've always found Transformers too hard to watch on a big screen. PS: My teenage desire for a Nikon F3 was cemented by the Cinefex issue that detailed Temple of Doom, and a BBC Horizon documentary about ILM in the 80's entitled 'How to film the impossible' which showed it in action. I loved that the smallest 'movie' camera they could fit in the miniature mine car environment was a 35mm film SLR with the bulk film back and modified rails to keep the film in place. Seeing it moving along the railtrack as the motor drive gradually took frame after frame complete with motion blur is something I've never forgotten. That Horizon episode also did a really fun breakdown on the scene where Indy, Willie and Short-round are on the cliff edge as the flooded mine bursts between them, plus the rope bridge later being cut. I recorded that doc when it originally aired on the BBC on my parent's Betamax and watched it again and again. I still cringe when the narrator pronounces Vader as 'Varder' though which still seems an odd error.
Duuuuuude I've wanted a Camaro EVER since transformers 😂
God I'm gonna get one and get the autobot symbol on it someday
It's great bumping into Gordon out in the wilds of RUclips.
It seems that with recent movies those really deep dives are few and far between.
@@reelsteelproductions2020 the fine folks at Corridor have become my VFX fix after the closure of Cinefex. I did love those old issues though and how much detail they went into on a single film!
i'm old enough to remember seeing 'the making of' way back when and i can still clearly recall it. one of the fx guys researched a roller coaster ride and figured out that by tilting the camera down as indie and co went down that first drop was effectively showing you the drop BEFORE you plummeted, rather that having it locked off. it was a very innovative shot.
@@iankelsall25 YES! I remember that part too, they anticipated each turn by angling the camera into it. I love those effects.
Transformers has some of the best CGI and has aged really well
You folks NEED to check out the dance scene (and others) from the latest Edgar Wright film "Last Night In Soho", I can't get over the seamless number of practical effects, but I know there must be some VFX trickery going on too... seriously this dance scene deserves a keen set of eyes to figure it out exactly, and you folks could totally dive into just the trailer footage alone and have a field day
So now that you talked about Everything Everywhere All at Once, I think it's time you do an episode about that awesome movie! In particular some of the VFX but also that damn stuntman that gets his face blasted to the floor (if it's a real guy)
That movie is all real no cgi. It really happened.
We'd love to! We kinda tried already lol. We need the movie to come out first so we can pull footage to look at.
@@SirWrender I'm pretty sure that today is the digital and physical release date for the movie, so there's that to help.
Innerspace has some insane practical effects, both inside and outside of Martin Short's body.
It'd be fun to do a comparison between Innerspace and the old Fantastic Voyage - what 20 years' difference in VFX looks like.
Shortround is the dad on Everything everywhere all at once?!
That is AWESOME!
I would love to see you guys break down "Everything Everywhere all at once" that was one of the best movies i've seen in a while and i thought of this channel and your breakdowns
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I think what’s going on with the ROTF “smoke puff” is that you can see the optic go from red to grey and they needed to explain how that happened. Picked a poor way to do it, but I bet it was a last-minute thing that occurred when they were reviewing the shot
You guys should talk about Everything Everywhere All at Once. Not the flashiest movie, but the whole VFX team could squeeze onto the couch.
1000% would be the best
I was about to say the same
“ Not the flashiest movie” bro that entire movie was nothing but flashy VFX gimmicks
all 5 of them?
@@FablestoneSeries Exactly. It would be a tight squeeze, but they'd fit.
5:44 that nikon camera and those miniatures are ridiculous. So creative!
I recently watched "The Unholy" - quite a bad and not really scary horror movie starring Jeffrey Dean Morgan - and the CGI was strikingly unrealistic I thought. It involves a lot of animated cloth as well, so it might be interesting to have a closer look at with wren's recent obsession with cloth sims in mind.
Wren's dreams were crushed the moment he realized that the smoke puff is real
I noticed Grindor’s smokey eye since the original blue ray came out, that scene always looked weird to me but I just tossed it as being the slow motion, wut I notice now is that the smoke comes out before anything starts to break apart. Optimus did not like faces in this movie.
Finally you guys talking about Transformers. It's about time bro!
This is actually one of my favorite sponsor segments on this channel
Wren having an existential crisis because of the smoke element is hilarious🤣
Black Widow was filmed in early 2019 and wrapped photography in the Fall. It was not a pandemic made movie. It was slated to be released in April 2020 before the world shutdown. They had no restrictions
Maybe that scene was reshot and that's a strong maybe
Filming was from May to October 2019. However, the reshoots were from late 2020, which I think is what they were talking about since the scene is clearly a reshoot.
They are so scrared to critise vfx creators who have actually been a guest with them, when it is clearly bad VFXs
Principal photography wrapped pre-covid but reshoots were 100% done during covid. You see them wearing masks during the making of featurettes.
Multiverse of Madness was doing reshoots and pick up shots less than a month before it was released. Avengers infamously was doing pick up shots the day before the premiere.
I was about to make the same point. One teeny-tiny nitpick, though. The original release date was supposed to be May first, 2020. I know this because Marvel had this thing for a while where they were getting cutesy with the release dates: _Black Panther_ came out the weekend before MLK Day; _Captain Marvel_ came out on International Women’s Day; and _Black Widow_ was meant to come out on May Day, which was a major holiday in the former Soviet Union (where Natasha was originally from).
Yeah that smoke effect on Grindor's eye has been known by the fans for a while, it was definitely a way to cheap out!
You guys should take a look at the Bumblebee beach scene where he's listening to Charlie talk about hiding. I think its peak VFX for the TF franchise.
I recommend that you breakdown the visual effects on the "Capsize" Music video, the effects on that video is quite stunning
For animators react I’d recommend watching Violet Evergarden since it’s honestly one of the most beautiful animated works I’ve ever watched
yessss great choice, best animation I’ve ever seen!
I got a college project today only regarding some good, animations and this was exactly the comment I needed. Thank you so much.
These guys are more into 3D. Not 2D animation
Meh
@@Tomi-berry Have you not seen their Animators React?
The scene at the beginning of the first live-action Scooby-doo movie, when Shaggy and Scoob are skateboarding and Shaggy's face goes through the barrel, they did a sort of obvious face replacement that I never noticed as a kid. I think it'd be cool to get Mathew Lillard on the show too!
You guys should react to the film “Only The Brave” about the Granite Mountain Fireshots firefighters. The fire CGI was very impactful to the film for the story and characters obviously and the way the meshed it together for the actors. The death scene in particular stands out.
You guys should really take a look at the scene from Blade Runner 2049 where the memory creator person is crafting the birthday cake scene, spinning the slow motion shot of the kids and the birthday cake around like a 3d model when she's working on it. It has had me totally stumped since I saw it in theaters.
Every video needs a "janky smoke puff" moment like that. It's so entertaining when they find goofs in modern VFX.
That movie is already 13 years old
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Please take a look at the new Prehistoric Planet. The CG in it is just stunning and honestly blows my mind.
To quote Sam: "Those are dolls!!??"
Almost as iconic as "look at that neck!"
I remember studying the Transformers movie when I needed to make my own transformer for a parody at job, I was amazed how much hidden jank there is. Up to rigs not working completely in some scenes with parts visibly clipping off the supposed joints.
I would love to see something about Everything Everywhere All At Once. I can't think of any particularly special thing in relation to VFX (like the flashing between universes is really neat but I don't know if that's really what you're looking for), but I just absolutely love the movie
Not necessarily VFX, but I recently watched Charlie Chaplin's "The Circus" and was perplexed by the camera positioning/work in the mirror gallery scene. Would love a breakdown on it. On top of that, an in-depth dive on the difference between Cameron's "Avatar" and the teaser trailer footage of "Avatar: The Way of Water" would be awesome to see.
Paul (2011) The CG on Paul the alien is actually really impressive and very expressive. When i watched it I completely forgot he was a CG character
The new Chip 'n' Dale movie animation is incredible! You have to do an episode on that.
Also love Death and Robots Season 3, of course