The reason may very well be, that she was visually important but ideologically dubious: She invented what was to become the nazi-esthetic and for "Tiefland", she used Sinti and Roma from a nearby concentration-camp as extras. And sent them back to the concentration-camp into a sure death after the film was finished. It is hard to deal with such films and it is hard to deal with her past.
@yoursinrock5 Woah woah woah...Stop the presses! Hold everything! Some know-nothing saw a documentary on their television and has no "comapassion" for Leni Riefenstahl! I repeat: no compassion for her! Let's just all be thankful that RUclips has given yet another genius a proper forum with which to discuss their profound revelations!
I wonder what she would have done with the "Film Noir" camerawork taking place toward the end of WWII? She revered the artistry of black and white photography.
one survivor was interview in the wonderful terrible life of Lennie Riefenstahl. She stated that she was young an nieve at the time. But it wasn'tjust Riefenstahl or Harlan that passivelly contributed to the murder. The stock market. The traditional prejudice in europe. The large percentage of germans wanting a quick answer. Hitler taking advantage of that. The cowardly passive. This is why t.c.m. wont show these films, unless it has international appeal.I critisize them about this
I think it wasn´t kill; wikipedia tells: The wrestling scene of Eichberger with the only half-tamed wolf was supervised by Bernhard Grzimek (german director of zoo)
@mikemcgee Yes, the extras were largely gypsies from a concentration camp; needless to say, none of them got paid but the did get something ELSE. After the filming, at least half of them didn't have to go back to the concentration camp; they went to DEATH CAMPS instead. Refenstahl, of course, stated that she didn't know this.
One of the extras, a young boy, said she had told them that if they worked on her film (as though they had any choice), she would make sure they would be safe. Instead, most of them died in Auschwitz.
@xingsheng1 It is true. She did employ children who later died in the camps. The evidence is summarised in 'Leni' by Steven Bach, (Little Brown, 2007, pages 294-295.). She eventually admitted this and Bach quotes her admission. Your abuse of bearcub410 does nothing to alter the facts. You owe him/her an apology.
Well she was good film maker .i got a excellent copy of this film.they picked on her an yet others like Carl froelich and wolfgang liebeniner and other were let go.this de nazi fication did not work well.But Miss Stahl had other problems that prevented her form doing other films after the war.One of them were finances and illness
@@davidlloren I wrote this before I discovered that before she died surviving gypsies who were in tiefland wanted to know if she knew that those who were extras were going to be exterminated. She was 100 so she knew she was going to die. She confessed that she knew. Nope as a fan of open history you except the fact that people were guilty contributing to a dictatorship in which 6 million people were murdered. Even Hines Ruemans and Marika Rokk third Reich stars were guilty by working in the third Reich cinema, even the one who avoid joining the national socialist, Like Grethe Waifers were guilty too. Only the german who protected their Jewish neighbor's kids or their Jewish neighbors weren't guilty and those who joined the underground were not guilty. But what your dealing with is dead.
@orglancs Listen to yourself: "...she employed children who LATER died in the camps." That's the base of your accusation? I once tutored a little girl who LATER was abused by her teacher and commited suicide, so I was responsible for her death? Maybe I am too dumb to see your logic. But waste no more saliva, we will worship this great woman no matter what you try to tarnish her reputation.
The reason may very well be, that she was visually important but ideologically dubious: She invented what was to become the nazi-esthetic and for "Tiefland", she used Sinti and Roma from a nearby concentration-camp as extras. And sent them back to the concentration-camp into a sure death after the film was finished. It is hard to deal with such films and it is hard to deal with her past.
Thank you for this video, I like its musical score, worth of appreciation.
@yoursinrock5 Woah woah woah...Stop the presses! Hold everything! Some know-nothing saw a documentary on their television and has no "comapassion" for Leni Riefenstahl! I repeat: no compassion for her! Let's just all be thankful that RUclips has given yet another genius a proper forum with which to discuss their profound revelations!
I wonder what she would have done with the "Film Noir" camerawork taking place toward the end of WWII? She revered the artistry of black and white photography.
YOU ARE RIGHT SADLY WE MISS MANY OTHERS GOOD WORK SHE DID PLAN TO DO A MOVIE WITH JEAN COCTEAU BUT HE DIE BEFORE THE BEGINING OF THE MOVIE
one survivor was interview in the wonderful terrible life of Lennie Riefenstahl. She stated that she was young an nieve at the time. But it wasn'tjust Riefenstahl or Harlan that passivelly contributed to the murder. The stock market. The traditional prejudice in europe. The large percentage of germans wanting a quick answer. Hitler taking advantage of that. The cowardly passive. This is why t.c.m. wont show these films, unless it has international appeal.I critisize them about this
I think it wasn´t kill; wikipedia tells:
The wrestling scene of Eichberger with the only half-tamed wolf was supervised by Bernhard Grzimek (german director of zoo)
@mikemcgee Yes, the extras were largely gypsies from a concentration camp; needless to say, none of them got paid but the did get something ELSE.
After the filming, at least half of them didn't have to go back to the concentration camp; they went to DEATH CAMPS instead.
Refenstahl, of course, stated that she didn't know this.
One of the extras, a young boy, said she had told them that if they worked on her film (as though they had any choice), she would make sure they would be safe. Instead, most of them died in Auschwitz.
SHE WAS GREAT
She was a monster
poor wolfy...
great movie
@xingsheng1 It is true. She did employ children who later died in the camps. The evidence is summarised in 'Leni' by Steven Bach, (Little Brown, 2007, pages 294-295.). She eventually admitted this and Bach quotes her admission. Your abuse of bearcub410 does nothing to alter the facts. You owe him/her an apology.
i love Leni, the only real true genius
Este video e incrivel
Well she was good film maker .i got a excellent copy of this film.they picked on her an yet others like Carl froelich and wolfgang liebeniner and other were let go.this de nazi fication did not work well.But Miss Stahl had other problems that prevented her form doing other films after the war.One of them were finances and illness
"picked on" a nazi who was friends with Hitler?
@@davidlloren I wrote this before I discovered that before she died surviving gypsies who were in tiefland wanted to know if she knew that those who were extras were going to be exterminated. She was 100 so she knew she was going to die. She confessed that she knew. Nope as a fan of open history you except the fact that people were guilty contributing to a dictatorship in which 6 million people were murdered. Even Hines Ruemans and Marika Rokk third Reich stars were guilty by working in the third Reich cinema, even the one who avoid joining the national socialist, Like Grethe Waifers were guilty too. Only the german who protected their Jewish neighbor's kids or their Jewish neighbors weren't guilty and those who joined the underground were not guilty. But what your dealing with is dead.
Der arme boese Wolf...
AH instrument of God, and Leni instrument of AH.
Kitsch!
this opera TIEFLAND is a bore........but LENI was a genius .
@orglancs Listen to yourself: "...she employed children who LATER died in the camps." That's the base of your accusation? I once tutored a little girl who LATER was abused by her teacher and commited suicide, so I was responsible for her death? Maybe I am too dumb to see your logic.
But waste no more saliva, we will worship this great woman no matter what you try to tarnish her reputation.
did you use the girls suicide to take advantage and profit from?