Please remember that the eye relief / scope shadow while shooting is also dependent on the position of the scope on the gun, as well as the gun itself. Therefore, the same scopes actually perform different on different guns. There is actually a difference when using a picatinny raiser, for example, but it requires a lot of testing to find the optimal gun/scope/mount type (different dovetail mounts also have different heights and eye reliefs)
The Bravo is one of my favorite sights this wipe. Far better than the HAMR, and perfect when you don’t wanna spend the money for a Razor or Vudu on your gun build, or if you want less zoom than 6x.
bravo is my choice cause i hate putting reflex on top, im using bravo with canted 4x acog is pretty good too, but it would be better if that shitty rmr was as good as dp or ff
the picture in picture issues come with all scopes that have a backup sight by default, examples are AUG A1 optic, Elcan irons. If you are using a scope that can mount a backup optic, you won't get the lag, like Bravo or HAMR
Just a correction, eye relief and eye box are different things even if they are related in that there would be scope shadow if they’re not right. Eye relief is the distance of the eye to the ocular. In tarkov, this would cause the scope shadow of the gun at rest, when not firing. It means that the optic is not properly positioned vis-à-vis the eye which causes the shadow. Eye box is the lateral and vertical movement of the eye from the ocular. This is something like the bobbing of the eye to the eye piece. This would then be relevant in full auto as the scope wouldn’t be in the perfect eye box while in recoil, hence causing scope shadow.
I can say that the tac30 is unfortunately utterly unusable with NVGs; it used to only be usable with the armasight NVGS before the NVG rework, but now it is worse on all NVGs in addition to being horrible with the armasight. Truly sad as a night enjoyer, and previously a tac30 enjoyer
The PU is the best because of all the chads you clapped along the way while zoomed into that scope… Remember one shot mosins to the thorax? Back when I was but a little Timmy, naked in the bushes one shotting Altyn+Slick+Meta M4 man with nothing but a Mosin and and LPS round 🤩😂
For the NcStar, its a bug thats been there for about 4yrs that I just recently learned about. Basically what is going on when you use the red dot on top of it, is the game still thinks you are either using the 3x or 9x scope. This has the affect as well on your turning speed which is severely reduced while using the red dot, as if you were scoped in and trying to look around. Hopefully it gets fixed eventually. 4 yrs is quite a long wait as is.
A lot of these scopes are much better now with the recoil rework, just to let everyone know who is coming to this video! I am sure Giga has mentioned it already, but here it is anyway! Good luck in your raids gamers!
Valday is also very light compared to other scopes. I specifically use Valday on SVDS because it’s already a really heavy gun but with lightweight components you can min max its weight.
@@1975MANDORyes it does. When you go into a raid already super heavy and then you find a bunch of loot it becomes basically impossible to move without stims, lol.
Good Vid always, although one thing i would have liked to have seen is how these scopes stack up at night, as some while great during day raids, can be utterly terrible at night with NVG's due reticle glare.
Pretty much all if not all the magnified optics that don’t have thick areas of illumination like the tac 30 are usable at night now. They changed how much things glare at some point.
I had a quick look into it but as far as I can tell all the scopes darken in night settings. The nvg scope is probably your best bet for clear night shooting tbh
hey giga think you could ever do a zoom comparison with some of the more extreme zooming scopes? it seems to me like the scopes with really high levels of zoom don’t actually zoom as much as they say they do. you can see this with the nightforce at 9:04
What's interesting is that they're ALL over the place. A lot of them aren't anywhere close to what they advertise. It's something BSG should address whenever (if) they do the rest of the scope rework they talked about some years ago@@Gigabeef
I think a pk-as in this game would be a cool edition, it would function like a dovetail "monstrum" sight, and its drippy as hell and could be mounted on an aks74un
The Elcan's 1x zoom is actually 1.5x, I think. It's actually kind of handy that way, having irons, 1.5x, and 4x. There are also two variants, at two different (but similar) price points that tend to fluctuate.
I’ve been saying for ages. It is insane how Vudu and Razor are only expensive because everything else, more or less, is implemented like shit. Also, the horrid recoil that we have right now screws over most optics because you lose the sight picture when that initial kick occurs. Curious to see what happens with the recoil changes.
Informative! Edit: One suggestion, might be nice if each time you talk about a optic, you show the icon in the inventory like in the stims video. Itd help us newbies that dont know all the names yet!
I never knew maxing out the FOV could actually be a bad thing, went and tested it myself and I can actually see where I'm hitting with a full auto spray when I turn FOV down rather than guessing I was!
I really don't like how all LPVO in Escape from Tarkov work like a Elcan Spectre, where there is 1 step up, like a toggle between the lowest 1x and highest 4x-6x-8x mode. In reality, these modern LPVO have true variable zoom, meaning that the zoom level can be adjusted very accurately and incrementally in a smooth fashion by either twisting the scope body in some way or by some other interface. On the 1x-8x Schmitt & Bender, you can see these markings on the top of the scope that would indicate all levels of zoom, which correspond to the 1x all the way up to 8x, but in game it only responds as the Spectre Elcan would with only allowing a fixed 1x or 8x setting. I should be able to scroll my mouse wheel and smoothly zoom in from 1x all the way up to 8x.
One thing that would have been good to add in with each optic is the actual zoom level, most are not what they actually say, like the Tac is more than 4x and the Vudu/Razer are both more than 6x.
One aspect you didn't test is how the reticle works with NVGs. There are some optics which are impossible to use with NVGs either because the reticle is too bright or unlit / too dark. One problem with the Elcan is those "backup iron sights".
I’ve always liked the Elcan Specter, even when it lack luster before some updates to scopes. The Monstrum 2x and Elcan Specter have been my go-to’s for just about 95% of my raids in all of my wipes🤝🏽
@@mikedebakker5820 depends on fire mode and fov, if he is using the triangle classic rainbow six siege acog with high fov, he is likely to get better performance than a simple 1 x or monstrum while also being able to snipe if need be, for full auto id use lazer hipfire or canted sights. On top of that with having a stable constant zoom level will help you get used to bullet drop and speed faster and land more accurate and consistent shots.
The PSO is still a scope I wish would come for regular rails too. I love this scope so much and while I do use a decent amount of dovetail-compatible weapons there are still at least as much that don't have the option to use dovetail mounts.
@@HeFromNorwayz That wouldn't even be necessary ( Although it would be cool for the OKP ) but the PSO scope actually exists to mount on the picatinny rail. Slap this sideway backup mount in the fron with a PK-6 or a FF3 and you basically have a budget 1x + 4x scope. I love this mix and it's super cheap to play. PSO scope is just freaking love.
@@Lu_Kitsuray No, we need a picatinny to Dovetail adapter, one rightside and one leftside. Made by Kel-tec because they made the weirdest shit out there.
I'm still appalled by the fact that BSG decided to balance scopes by eye relief and clear/muddy dot. I mean this is abhorrent. Almost none of the single red dots have clear dot, unlike real life.
I really like the valday and tac 30. When im jyst running back to back scavs for money on factory you often spawn with these scopes so its very easy to put them assid instead of selling them and having a completly free stockpile to use when wanted
Excellent video, minor suggestion related to eye relief if you do a similiar video for future patches. I would recommend doing a test to see how long it takes to ADS and get a clear sight picture when point firing full auto. Tac30 SEEMS to take longer than most other 1x scopes.
I think some people choose HAMR because of the visual recoil on the reddot on top is lower than using it alone, plus the scope itself serves as some sort of telescope
Great! I’m struggling with this rn. Would be nice if the full Tier list featured a view thru each scope… Pest’s shows about half, so that’s good. But his is way outdated now.
Bravo4 is by far my favourite scope to use, its cheap, has pretty clean 4x and doesnt lose sight nearly as easly as the hamr. The main thing is my preference for 1x sights over 1x scopes which is mainly why i use it.
for scopes like the razor it's shadow and eye relief are heavily dependant on the scope mount and what gun it is on as well, on the SCAR using a razor is just not good because of how far the scope sits forward unlike on something like a Mutant
I swear by the NCStar. It is one of my favorite scopes on anything that isn't full auto because it covers everything I want it to at a low price at all points in the wipe. 1/3/9 is just too good of an offer for its price point.
very nice and useful guide , i want just understand why we get fps drop on large scopes , i usually play in 60 fps , so using large scoops make it impossible to pvp , i hope they fix this issue soon.
The Valday 1-6x is incredibly good for shooter born in heaven. I got almost all my kills that way for Kappa this wipe using a DVL with a Valday, its incredibly crisp and responsive, and not overpriced like the other scopes. The Valday honestly full autos even better on lower FOVs as well, if you're using a lower FOV, the Valday is god tier.
I think they should add more magnifier to red dot options more to game. don't know if they don't want since it would probably become meta. but I think its stupid that there isn't more of those choices
i'd disagree about EOTec HHS-1 scope. the 3x ofc is a bit shaky and not that good indeed, but what i've found out that i was using it as normal EXPS3 scope as the best hollow one, and then sometimes switching to the 3x was quite useful. was very handy for example on interchange while doing quest and killing 40 scavs, as sometimes it's very convenient to have a little bit of magnification. just treat it as good hollow scope last wipe i was using specter a lot, but never actually did this wipe -- somehow i feel that it takes too much of the screen, borders are too thick and cover lots of space i mean, and the visible area is fairly small too. although i like the reticle it has. for zoom on sniper rifles i usually go with schmidt&bender 1x-8x or sometimes 3x-12x.
I've got nothing interesting to comment in particular, just wanted to let you know that the content has been amazing recently, thank you for making theese videos.
Hey giga love the vid. i was wondering though, if you had considered showing the scopes with the NVGs the tac30 for example is alrite in daytime, but is borderline useless with NVGs b/c of the glow.
You should show the item in question at the same time as youre naming it for visual people. Hard to keep track of which scope youre refering to by name only if you're new
Nice thx u. Will we get an Nightvision addition to these? Due to the fact that we can’t move the scopes for- and backwards on the rail we get a shadow ( at least this the irl reason + riser issue) which made them often very dark
All the reasons you mentioned about the Bravo being better than the HAMR are none existant, except maybe for the price but that varies. You either way have to buy a backup scope. The micro dot that goes on the HAMR is one of the best when it comes to visibility and 'clearness'. The backup sight on the bravo sits further away and is a little higher up which makes it a little more awkward to use.
i perfer ACOG over KMZ for snipping on budget. i mostly use Gornostay and the bullet is too slow for any thing further than 170m so x4 is more than enough and the KMZ has too much shadowing and the reticle is just weird
Hi gigabeef. Your videos are amazing. Would you mind next time putting the thumbnail of the scope you are reviewing on the screen? I dont know most of these scopes by name and it would be helpful to recognize them by their thumbnail or image icon
Love these tutorials but please, for the love of God, where do those magnificent spreadsheets come from ? I bookmarked the armor one that you, so kindly shared on one of your videos, but completely unable to locate any of the others.
Tarkov realism will always hurt certain optics, because they're meant to go on machine guns, not rifles. That's why even though they have good zoom and clarity, the reticles and/or housing of the sight is chonky. Throw that on a PKM or RPD and it'll make a lot more sense after 40 rounds.
I still feel like ... the game should be balanced in a way that you DONT want to use full auto with a big af sniper scope on your gun when ADS´ing. It turned the decision from "Do I want a 1x scope for CQC or a long range scope for open areas" into "just always take something that has both" with no real downsite as money is way too easy to get right now. Makes canted sights feel almost useless now (besides the ergo bug)
As i am only doing a nocturnal owl wipe schmidt and bender 1/8 is my go to for NVG honorable recommendation to valdey 1/6 always find from rouges i avoid tac 30 vudu and larger illuminated reticle as it blocks while using NVG
@@yourfavoritejojo5235Use your scav whenever you can even if it’s a quick factory exfil and learn a money run you like that fits your playstyle and you should be able to fund night raids. Higher level traders also lets you get stuff for cheaper.
i use AMD gpu so cant relate and money in tarkov is nothing the whole aspect of night only raids has nothing to do with funds even before reaching flea@@yourfavoritejojo5235
I really wish the game wouldn't naturally zoom everything. It should just be through the optic nothing in your peripheral should change and even within the scope theres always an artificial zoom that shouldn't happen.
You can do this - are you aware of the trick that lets you not zoom the screen? Bit fiddly and depends on your keybinds but i do it with free look and gradual lean. The idea is to get the optic "stuck" on the unzoomed mode
@Gigabeef yeah yeah I'm aware of it, I'm more meaning for it to be by default for everybody. It would tone down some of the really long range shots unless someone had a higher powered zoom. But yeah that trick, but for everybody.
What is with that optic with the reticle coming off the top? Also, ELCAN DR is my fav optic in games cuz the reticle is amazing. though in this game, that eye relief is a doozy
Why is nobody talking about the description error of the scope magnification, almost every scope in the game has different magnification than the description says.
If I find a scope, it would be nice for the game to tell me what gun I can put it on. AND DONT TELL ME TO CLICK COMPATIBLE WITH because everytime I do that there's just a dash.
There is an issue with the ELCAN that isn't present on other scopes. I thought it would be fixed by now but apparently it hasn't been, or at least I can still see it in this video. It seemingly defaults to some other FOV that is way larger than normal. As a result its 1x mode is actually something like 0.8x, zooming you *out* instead of in. That makes it basically useless because you could instead just use something with fixed magnification and a laser and save money that way.
Do people actually try and full auto with the larger magnification scopes? You talk a lot about how bad the full auto is with the 3x - 4x scopes but honestly any engagement where I need that magnification I personally wouldn't be full auto'ing. Am I doing it wrong? I generally have three distinctly different gun types and scopes that I choose to go with them, bolt-action snipers, semi auto rifles/DMRs, and lastly anything full auto like an SMG/AR. Bolt action snipers its all about being able to quickly and reliably line up shots so something with variable magnification and a good sight picture is all that is needed. Semi auto anything I want to have options for close and medium/long range depending on the map so any of the variable zoom scopes with a 1x option or a medium range scope with a canted red dot are good. For 99% of the maps and engagements I find myself in with these I nearly always like the Monstrum 2x (I'm trying really hard to use other scopes but this just fits so well for any semi auto guns) Full auto guns come in two types really, SMGs that can't really do long range so red dot/holo sights all the way, and assault rifles that can full auto up close or semi auto at range. And I have similar requirements to the semi auto/DMRs in that I want flexibility but it needs to be able to full auto at close range without losing sight picture. This is where I tend to use the HAMR/Bravo4s as my go to
Please remember that the eye relief / scope shadow while shooting is also dependent on the position of the scope on the gun, as well as the gun itself. Therefore, the same scopes actually perform different on different guns. There is actually a difference when using a picatinny raiser, for example, but it requires a lot of testing to find the optimal gun/scope/mount type (different dovetail mounts also have different heights and eye reliefs)
Do you have some setups you prefer that you wanna tell us about?
The Bravo is one of my favorite sights this wipe. Far better than the HAMR, and perfect when you don’t wanna spend the money for a Razor or Vudu on your gun build, or if you want less zoom than 6x.
bravo is my choice cause i hate putting reflex on top, im using bravo with canted
4x acog is pretty good too, but it would be better if that shitty rmr was as good as dp or ff
The Sig one, right? Not the Vulcan night scope?
I kinda like the Vulcan, but rn ima try the Sig on your req. thanks.
the picture in picture issues come with all scopes that have a backup sight by default, examples are AUG A1 optic, Elcan irons. If you are using a scope that can mount a backup optic, you won't get the lag, like Bravo or HAMR
bravo and hamr still have the fps loss on the zoomed scope
all scopes do, i'm talking about the backup 1x options they come with@@nanee9391
@@nanee9391he's talking about no fps drop using the 1x scope on the hamr and bravo.
Just a correction, eye relief and eye box are different things even if they are related in that there would be scope shadow if they’re not right.
Eye relief is the distance of the eye to the ocular. In tarkov, this would cause the scope shadow of the gun at rest, when not firing. It means that the optic is not properly positioned vis-à-vis the eye which causes the shadow.
Eye box is the lateral and vertical movement of the eye from the ocular. This is something like the bobbing of the eye to the eye piece. This would then be relevant in full auto as the scope wouldn’t be in the perfect eye box while in recoil, hence causing scope shadow.
You should of added in how good they work with nvgs. As someone who don’t play all the time it’s hard to remember what works the best with them
I can say that the tac30 is unfortunately utterly unusable with NVGs; it used to only be usable with the armasight NVGS before the NVG rework, but now it is worse on all NVGs in addition to being horrible with the armasight. Truly sad as a night enjoyer, and previously a tac30 enjoyer
Nah the PU is the best scope period
Point blank period
It's honestly such a vibe to use that scope.
I hate it
It's drippy as hell and the shadowing is non-existent - until you lean... I think it is a great scope yeah
The PU is the best because of all the chads you clapped along the way while zoomed into that scope…
Remember one shot mosins to the thorax? Back when I was but a little Timmy, naked in the bushes one shotting Altyn+Slick+Meta M4 man with nothing but a Mosin and and LPS round 🤩😂
For the NcStar, its a bug thats been there for about 4yrs that I just recently learned about. Basically what is going on when you use the red dot on top of it, is the game still thinks you are either using the 3x or 9x scope. This has the affect as well on your turning speed which is severely reduced while using the red dot, as if you were scoped in and trying to look around. Hopefully it gets fixed eventually. 4 yrs is quite a long wait as is.
Elcan with its back-up irons does the same, its more of an oversight rather than a bug
I love the Monstrum for a lot of scenarios with short to mid range.
The small Acog (the x4 one) is a favorite of mine for DMRs or other semi-autos, pair it with a canted or a piggyback red dot and it's great.
I just tried the irons on top the other day, they're hilariously bad. Otherwise awesome mid-range optic.
A lot of these scopes are much better now with the recoil rework, just to let everyone know who is coming to this video! I am sure Giga has mentioned it already, but here it is anyway! Good luck in your raids gamers!
Valday is also very light compared to other scopes. I specifically use Valday on SVDS because it’s already a really heavy gun but with lightweight components you can min max its weight.
weight doesnt matter in tarkov much
@@1975MANDORyes it does. When you go into a raid already super heavy and then you find a bunch of loot it becomes basically impossible to move without stims, lol.
@@1975MANDOR yea but GigaBeef has a video about it, after that video I started to consider it
Good Vid always, although one thing i would have liked to have seen is how these scopes stack up at night, as some while great during day raids, can be utterly terrible at night with NVG's due reticle glare.
Pretty much all if not all the magnified optics that don’t have thick areas of illumination like the tac 30 are usable at night now. They changed how much things glare at some point.
Well I'd also like to see which have the darkening bug.
I had a quick look into it but as far as I can tell all the scopes darken in night settings. The nvg scope is probably your best bet for clear night shooting tbh
hey giga think you could ever do a zoom comparison with some of the more extreme zooming scopes? it seems to me like the scopes with really high levels of zoom don’t actually zoom as much as they say they do. you can see this with the nightforce at 9:04
The zoom for the razor and vudu is also incorrect iirc so seeing a video sharing that would be nice.
I agree..the 16x and the 25x basically look the same.
Maybe.. Not sure how interesting it would be though. I know Tower has done a lot of work on this, he's somewhat of a specialist
There was a reddit post that calculated the true zoom based off pixel count
What's interesting is that they're ALL over the place. A lot of them aren't anywhere close to what they advertise. It's something BSG should address whenever (if) they do the rest of the scope rework they talked about some years ago@@Gigabeef
I think a pk-as in this game would be a cool edition, it would function like a dovetail "monstrum" sight, and its drippy as hell and could be mounted on an aks74un
The Elcan's 1x zoom is actually 1.5x, I think. It's actually kind of handy that way, having irons, 1.5x, and 4x.
There are also two variants, at two different (but similar) price points that tend to fluctuate.
only because of fov decreasing, if you ads with 1x and turn your head you will se same
I’ve been saying for ages. It is insane how Vudu and Razor are only expensive because everything else, more or less, is implemented like shit. Also, the horrid recoil that we have right now screws over most optics because you lose the sight picture when that initial kick occurs. Curious to see what happens with the recoil changes.
Informative!
Edit: One suggestion, might be nice if each time you talk about a optic, you show the icon in the inventory like in the stims video. Itd help us newbies that dont know all the names yet!
Fair! The table has them in the order of the video but yes that would have been good to do :)
@@Gigabeef thanks giga! Your guides rock!
I never knew maxing out the FOV could actually be a bad thing, went and tested it myself and I can actually see where I'm hitting with a full auto spray when I turn FOV down rather than guessing I was!
I really don't like how all LPVO in Escape from Tarkov work like a Elcan Spectre, where there is 1 step up, like a toggle between the lowest 1x and highest 4x-6x-8x mode. In reality, these modern LPVO have true variable zoom, meaning that the zoom level can be adjusted very accurately and incrementally in a smooth fashion by either twisting the scope body in some way or by some other interface. On the 1x-8x Schmitt & Bender, you can see these markings on the top of the scope that would indicate all levels of zoom, which correspond to the 1x all the way up to 8x, but in game it only responds as the Spectre Elcan would with only allowing a fixed 1x or 8x setting. I should be able to scroll my mouse wheel and smoothly zoom in from 1x all the way up to 8x.
love the kmz if youre using the dovetail mount (side ak) you can upgrade the irons and use them as a 1x backup
One thing that would have been good to add in with each optic is the actual zoom level, most are not what they actually say, like the Tac is more than 4x and the Vudu/Razer are both more than 6x.
One aspect you didn't test is how the reticle works with NVGs. There are some optics which are impossible to use with NVGs either because the reticle is too bright or unlit / too dark.
One problem with the Elcan is those "backup iron sights".
I’ve always liked the Elcan Specter, even when it lack luster before some updates to scopes. The Monstrum 2x and Elcan Specter have been my go-to’s for just about 95% of my raids in all of my wipes🤝🏽
ACOG is by far my favorite scope in the game. I don't care for the variable zoom scopes at all.
You do you but just know that you're just hurting yourself by not using variable zoom in this game.
@@mikedebakker5820 depends on fire mode and fov, if he is using the triangle classic rainbow six siege acog with high fov, he is likely to get better performance than a simple 1 x or monstrum while also being able to snipe if need be, for full auto id use lazer hipfire or canted sights. On top of that with having a stable constant zoom level will help you get used to bullet drop and speed faster and land more accurate and consistent shots.
@@incediumignis There is no real reason to ever use anything other than a vudu or razer, they're way too strong.
@@mikedebakker5820people like them will never listen don’t bother lol
The PSO is still a scope I wish would come for regular rails too. I love this scope so much and while I do use a decent amount of dovetail-compatible weapons there are still at least as much that don't have the option to use dovetail mounts.
Cursed
Picatinny to dovetail adapter when??
@@HeFromNorwayz That wouldn't even be necessary ( Although it would be cool for the OKP ) but the PSO scope actually exists to mount on the picatinny rail. Slap this sideway backup mount in the fron with a PK-6 or a FF3 and you basically have a budget 1x + 4x scope. I love this mix and it's super cheap to play. PSO scope is just freaking love.
@@Lu_Kitsuray No, we need a picatinny to Dovetail adapter, one rightside and one leftside. Made by Kel-tec because they made the weirdest shit out there.
I'm still appalled by the fact that BSG decided to balance scopes by eye relief and clear/muddy dot. I mean this is abhorrent. Almost none of the single red dots have clear dot, unlike real life.
I really like the valday and tac 30. When im jyst running back to back scavs for money on factory you often spawn with these scopes so its very easy to put them assid instead of selling them and having a completly free stockpile to use when wanted
Excellent video, minor suggestion related to eye relief if you do a similiar video for future patches. I would recommend doing a test to see how long it takes to ADS and get a clear sight picture when point firing full auto. Tac30 SEEMS to take longer than most other 1x scopes.
I think some people choose HAMR because of the visual recoil on the reddot on top is lower than using it alone, plus the scope itself serves as some sort of telescope
It also has the illusion of being cheap beause you buy it in two parts.
Great! I’m struggling with this rn. Would be nice if the full Tier list featured a view thru each scope…
Pest’s shows about half, so that’s good. But his is way outdated now.
@Gigabeef Great job on those scopes, mate! Also would be nice if you reviewed the experience of scopes with NV! There is a huge diff.
Gigabeef I love your content. You give me the information i wish i knew but will always be too lazy to find out on my own
Bravo4 is by far my favourite scope to use, its cheap, has pretty clean 4x and doesnt lose sight nearly as easly as the hamr. The main thing is my preference for 1x sights over 1x scopes which is mainly why i use it.
You just have to appreciate all the work these creators put into their videos to make them as high quality as possible, great video!
for scopes like the razor it's shadow and eye relief are heavily dependant on the scope mount and what gun it is on as well, on the SCAR using a razor is just not good because of how far the scope sits forward unlike on something like a Mutant
I swear by the NCStar. It is one of my favorite scopes on anything that isn't full auto because it covers everything I want it to at a low price at all points in the wipe. 1/3/9 is just too good of an offer for its price point.
Great work on the video, I am glad to see a full breakdown with all the new scopes
very nice and useful guide , i want just understand why we get fps drop on large scopes , i usually play in 60 fps , so using large scoops make it impossible to pvp , i hope they fix this issue soon.
Great video Gig!
The Valday 1-6x is incredibly good for shooter born in heaven. I got almost all my kills that way for Kappa this wipe using a DVL with a Valday, its incredibly crisp and responsive, and not overpriced like the other scopes.
The Valday honestly full autos even better on lower FOVs as well, if you're using a lower FOV, the Valday is god tier.
I havent played in a couple wipes but i remember the Tac 30 being very hard to use with nvgs
I still remember times when Bravo 4 was the best. It was big, clean and had a really good wide field of view.
They kinda killed it.
I think they should add more magnifier to red dot options more to game. don't know if they don't want since it would probably become meta. but I think its stupid that there isn't more of those choices
The NPZ P78 is my Shooter Born scope. I use it in combination with a laser.
Monstrum Tac is so underrated, i use it on 74u and Ak builds. Best reddot imo
i'd disagree about EOTec HHS-1 scope. the 3x ofc is a bit shaky and not that good indeed, but what i've found out that i was using it as normal EXPS3 scope as the best hollow one, and then sometimes switching to the 3x was quite useful. was very handy for example on interchange while doing quest and killing 40 scavs, as sometimes it's very convenient to have a little bit of magnification. just treat it as good hollow scope
last wipe i was using specter a lot, but never actually did this wipe -- somehow i feel that it takes too much of the screen, borders are too thick and cover lots of space i mean, and the visible area is fairly small too. although i like the reticle it has.
for zoom on sniper rifles i usually go with schmidt&bender 1x-8x or sometimes 3x-12x.
Thank you Gigabeef. I really enjoy your vids. Many thanks
Man i wish more games would have these realistic looking scopes
The monstrum I prefer on semi auto like an Adar. Most of the time though I run the Spector as I am usually too poor for nicer scopes
i'm going to be referencing this video a lot ty
1P59/69 is the best scope. Love just putting it a VPO and doing budget sniping
Do a video on night vision with scopes. Cheers
I've got nothing interesting to comment in particular, just wanted to let you know that the content has been amazing recently, thank you for making theese videos.
Hey giga love the vid. i was wondering though, if you had considered showing the scopes with the NVGs the tac30 for example is alrite in daytime, but is borderline useless with NVGs b/c of the glow.
You should show the item in question at the same time as youre naming it for visual people. Hard to keep track of which scope youre refering to by name only if you're new
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You’re videos have been top tier. No need to watch anyone else imo
I feel like it's not fair to rate the NcSTAR as bad in full auto since it has a built in red dot on top
Nice thx u.
Will we get an Nightvision addition to these?
Due to the fact that we can’t move the scopes for- and backwards on the rail we get a shadow ( at least this the irl reason + riser issue) which made them often very dark
All the reasons you mentioned about the Bravo being better than the HAMR are none existant, except maybe for the price but that varies.
You either way have to buy a backup scope.
The micro dot that goes on the HAMR is one of the best when it comes to visibility and 'clearness'.
The backup sight on the bravo sits further away and is a little higher up which makes it a little more awkward to use.
Bro! What the hell! Now my bravo scope is gunna go up bc of the thumbnail....bye bye cheap bravo 😢
Swamp fox with a canted is one of my go to’s if I don’t want to spend the money on a hamr.
i perfer ACOG over KMZ for snipping on budget. i mostly use Gornostay and the bullet is too slow for any thing further than 170m so x4 is more than enough and the KMZ has too much shadowing and the reticle is just weird
Hi gigabeef. Your videos are amazing. Would you mind next time putting the thumbnail of the scope you are reviewing on the screen? I dont know most of these scopes by name and it would be helpful to recognize them by their thumbnail or image icon
Can we get a link to the spreadsheet you made? I would love to refer to it while in game
I love the hamr even though bravo is clean. Hamr just hits
People don't use the PSO because of all the crap around the reticle. I constantly lose my point of aim with that thing, I'll never use it again
It‘s 2:40 AM, my pretty girlfriend is sleeping beside me and my ass is watching a tarkov scope comparison…
if u shoot 3 shots before spraying you can escape the black scopes
man is it so weird seeing the old recoil now.
best nv scope for mp5 short range, to try on factory or interchage for example
As a perpetual timmy. I just use whatever is in my stash, found in raid or from my enemies.
Love these tutorials but please, for the love of God, where do those magnificent spreadsheets come from ? I bookmarked the armor one that you, so kindly shared on one of your videos, but completely unable to locate any of the others.
Man i remember when the tac 30 was cheap as heck and availability at skier level one....
0:32 this is a lie. I put a vudu on my vpo 215 and it still wouldn't full auto
Good stuff :)
sig tango6t is perfect for me
I hope they improve the eotech hybrid and add more magnifiers. Big hole in the optics options.
I like the TAC30 cuz when i use it i don't have frame drop while aiming not like Vude and Razor
Vuduu and razor sight are not 6x. They are 8x just like the schmidt&bender
Ik it says its 6x but thats a mistake
top content as usual :D
any scopes good with nvgs? or do they all just add darkness when on higher zoom
Tarkov realism will always hurt certain optics, because they're meant to go on machine guns, not rifles. That's why even though they have good zoom and clarity, the reticles and/or housing of the sight is chonky. Throw that on a PKM or RPD and it'll make a lot more sense after 40 rounds.
don't sleep on Acog with the top mount irons for early wipe
I like the 3.5x acog the most.
I still feel like ... the game should be balanced in a way that you DONT want to use full auto with a big af sniper scope on your gun when ADS´ing. It turned the decision from "Do I want a 1x scope for CQC or a long range scope for open areas" into "just always take something that has both" with no real downsite as money is way too easy to get right now. Makes canted sights feel almost useless now (besides the ergo bug)
As i am only doing a nocturnal owl wipe schmidt and bender 1/8 is my go to for NVG
honorable recommendation to valdey 1/6 always find from rouges
i avoid tac 30 vudu and larger illuminated reticle as it blocks while using NVG
How you got funds for this for night raids? Also doesnt that nvidia tool just make night raids a joke?
Vudu is awesome at night for me I don’t have any issues. Do you have brightness turned up in post fx?
@@yourfavoritejojo5235Use your scav whenever you can even if it’s a quick factory exfil and learn a money run you like that fits your playstyle and you should be able to fund night raids. Higher level traders also lets you get stuff for cheaper.
i use AMD gpu so cant relate
and money in tarkov is nothing
the whole aspect of night only raids has nothing to do with funds even before reaching flea@@yourfavoritejojo5235
i dont use any post FX or increased brightness and i will give Vudu another chance for you then let you know my revised opinion@@GodlyMortalGaming
I really wish the game wouldn't naturally zoom everything. It should just be through the optic nothing in your peripheral should change and even within the scope theres always an artificial zoom that shouldn't happen.
You can do this - are you aware of the trick that lets you not zoom the screen? Bit fiddly and depends on your keybinds but i do it with free look and gradual lean.
The idea is to get the optic "stuck" on the unzoomed mode
@Gigabeef yeah yeah I'm aware of it, I'm more meaning for it to be by default for everybody. It would tone down some of the really long range shots unless someone had a higher powered zoom.
But yeah that trick, but for everybody.
Good vid Beef but why no chapters? 😔
the schmidt bender 3 to 12 is my fav in the game and i use it on everything the game wil let me use it on
As an ACOG user it’s super cheap kinda underrated when u get used to it
What is with that optic with the reticle coming off the top?
Also, ELCAN DR is my fav optic in games cuz the reticle is amazing. though in this game, that eye relief is a doozy
here waiting for Tarkov to put the option to turn on when i use the scopes.
Why is nobody talking about the description error of the scope magnification, almost every scope in the game has different magnification than the description says.
If I find a scope, it would be nice for the game to tell me what gun I can put it on. AND DONT TELL ME TO CLICK COMPATIBLE WITH because everytime I do that there's just a dash.
很有帮助！！感谢！！！
I miss the old Valaday from like 2 years ago ;(
There is an issue with the ELCAN that isn't present on other scopes. I thought it would be fixed by now but apparently it hasn't been, or at least I can still see it in this video.
It seemingly defaults to some other FOV that is way larger than normal. As a result its 1x mode is actually something like 0.8x, zooming you *out* instead of in. That makes it basically useless because you could instead just use something with fixed magnification and a laser and save money that way.
1:50 sad that you missed the category: playable with NVG
Do people actually try and full auto with the larger magnification scopes? You talk a lot about how bad the full auto is with the 3x - 4x scopes but honestly any engagement where I need that magnification I personally wouldn't be full auto'ing. Am I doing it wrong?
I generally have three distinctly different gun types and scopes that I choose to go with them, bolt-action snipers, semi auto rifles/DMRs, and lastly anything full auto like an SMG/AR.
Bolt action snipers its all about being able to quickly and reliably line up shots so something with variable magnification and a good sight picture is all that is needed.
Semi auto anything I want to have options for close and medium/long range depending on the map so any of the variable zoom scopes with a 1x option or a medium range scope with a canted red dot are good. For 99% of the maps and engagements I find myself in with these I nearly always like the Monstrum 2x (I'm trying really hard to use other scopes but this just fits so well for any semi auto guns)
Full auto guns come in two types really, SMGs that can't really do long range so red dot/holo sights all the way, and assault rifles that can full auto up close or semi auto at range. And I have similar requirements to the semi auto/DMRs in that I want flexibility but it needs to be able to full auto at close range without losing sight picture. This is where I tend to use the HAMR/Bravo4s as my go to