TOP reason not to buy AMD 7900 series GPU
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"If something that is on PCB does not give you cancer, it's probably not good" (c) An *actual* greatest technician that ever lived.
Meanwhile that one "Part Swapper" calling himself the best technician 😂
@@gyoerdy7832 its a joke if you didnt get it
@@scy4205Half a joke.
I mean, swapping parts is qualified as a PC technician, that's the terminology in this field (at least back when I got my certificate). What Northwestrepair does is a much higher level than just "PC technician"
Oh, I believe more manufacturers going make this organic thing.
Imagine computers/cyborgs going walk among us one day, hard to recognize from "normal" people😅.
5090 3 PCB sandwich, 7900 series organic, lovely upgrades.
There won't be other than successor of 7900 upgrade fpr my 6650xt, ouch. Nvidia? They expected to kill value of midrange again.
Only buy GPUs with carcinogenic PCBs.
You gonna eat that?
@@Mr371312somehow it returns to your diet in environmental circulation. You don’t need to eat directly.
The problem is XFX and not AMD.
@@NurdRage777 There is no problem.
I work on a farm and thats something we say about certain chemicals/products we use. “If it doesn’t give you cancer, its probably not that great”. Lol
gonna make sure to stay away from your farm lol
@@DreamTerrorist I recommend you stay away from most then if that’s your mentality. Or anywhere that produces/sells/ships/manufactures anything in mass quantities. As much as I dont like it myself, these chemicals/products are what make our world go round.
Class 1a gives more FPS/gallon.
@@Djhinn "go round" = climate related disasters everywhere
They put the cancer in it so you know its working. =p
I'm not paying Nvidia tax.
Buy used & remember to lowball🍷🗿
@@hupe5836 No need for that because I don't care about ray tracing.
buy cheap buy twice
Does AMD really manufacture PCBs? Because as far as I know, they only sell chips and schematics showing how to feed them. I don't see anyone blaming Samsung for making their memory chips that are later put on the same PCB.
hes an amd hater. fixes nvidia gpus all day and cries about amd
Well if all reference cards look the same it's probably AMD that cheaped out, not much but a few stickers and the cooler differ AMDs own 7900xtx from the rest of the reference designed ones for sure.
This is not a huge deal unless it causes higher rate of failure or if you repair damaged pcbs for a living.
@@JohnSmith-ro8hk if he fixes nVidia all the time instead of AMD cards that means nVidia cards are worse than AMD cards because they fail more. That's what he didn't think of before saying AMD is bad. And I'm a subscriber to many repair channels on YT like "Graphic Cards Repair" and many russian, chinese and korean technicians but most of the GPU they fix everyday are nVidia cards. If I want to search on YT for a particular AMD card repair like the RX 5700XT for example I have a hard time to fiind out this kind of video. But if I search for a nVidia card like the RTX 3060 I find a ton of results...
@@kakkoishonen nah marketshare means there will be more nvidia cards but those fail all the time too. the bottom line is aib will cut every corner they can for profit, specially when it comes to meager margins with nvidia cards.
No, AMD does not manufacturer PCBs. PCB design files even does not specify the type of solder mask. This is completely specified by the person who orders such PCBs or the free will of the PCB manufacturer.
The situation would be like blaming Ford, because a tire runs flat.
If it dosent give you cancer it’s no good😂
More warning labels on any stuff makes the stuff way better working one.
this pcb is made by xfx not amd lol its literally written on it
cope
Who the f buys a referent design 7900XTX my dude? Ofc it's AIB card.
@@nicekeyboardalan6972 lol better look up definition of "cope"
XFX also sell 4090? If yes, comparing both will be interesting.
This guy hates AMD, so of course it's AMD's fault🤷
Environmental Friendly ❌❎
Planned Obsolescence ☑️✅
Not true
@@GremaxLP what else you wanna call that hm?
@@zackzeed Well if you use gpu Support (like sagging) than you never have this issue
Its User error in the First place
@@GremaxLP wait you're talking about the crack in the pcb not the other issue..?
Then I'd say it's both but I tend to agree with you there.
i bought my 7900xtx because it is so much cheaper. i had been babying it with undervolt and plenty of case airflow, i when gaming I try to not let it go above 60 degs, i hope mine will last me a long time
i got a GRE and I have overclocked it to eat 315w. it will last me a long time
No reason for me to buy a Ngreedia product 😉 im pretty sure my Sapphire Nitro+ 7900 XTX will never need such a repair😌
hate is on their techy side, unless thousands of 7900s are failing everyday like a 4090 melting on its own before, then ppl would've avoided buying
AMD doesn't make PCBs tho. And i doubt they have any guidelines for coating
AMD designed the board though and their name is on the product, they are still responsible for the design.
@@sei_asagirithey release the cad for manufacturing. what they are going to do with it is totally different
@@sei_asagiri AMD only designed the GPU itself, iy didnt build the boards and its components. All of the boards and its components are manufactured by different other companies.
@@ryutenmenthey should provide reference board designs.
@@ableite they probably do but there is no obligation to use it.
Next time at least try to specify which board partner that card is made by, instead of just telling people not to buy an AMD card...
If it's an AMD reference design then blame AMD, if it's made by one of their partners then blame them directly since AMD only responsible for the GPU chip.
The buck stops with AMD, does not matter who they got to make the items, their name is on it.
TOP TIP to not need reballing your 7900: don't throw your 7900 from the roof
Sp more or less don't buy entry models with reference designed boards or is it this same on higher end models to?
Single use only. Disposable green gpus.
semi automatic disposable case gpus
Thanks for the video and warnings :) Does this nasty beauty also apply to the reference design and all the non reference designs as well? Or only for this custom card (Merc card)? Appreciate the answer on this. Would be nice if you could confirm if this is the same for Nitro+ and Taichi also. Thanks.
Is this brand related? e.g. Gigabyte or Asrock may use different PCB types?
Would be interested to know the actual ratio of NVidia vs AMD vs Intel cards you have repaired and how well it lines up with the actual market shares?
Happy 7900 xtx user here.
Ironically enough, the only GPU that ever broken for me was from nvidia. Specifically 2080ti, DOA. First and last time I went with the brand.
DOA is very weird, the card is supposed to be tested before release.
GPU's can die for any reason and DOA can happen with any brand. Cards these days use much higher frequencies, power draw you name it and they are all obviously lead-free solder from the factory. I still believe Nvidia graphics cards last longer but i'm not sure about 20, 30 and 40 series to be honest I just know from personal experience and looking into GPU's for decades that Nvidia has always been considered the "nokia standard" when it comes to longevity as a whole. A few reasons are better temperatures and possibly better soldering within the chip because hot and cold heat cycles over time will wear the solder joints within the chip out, possible warping I forget the name of it but it is something like that. AMD has for a long time been about faster for cheaper right back to the early pentium days of CPU's.
@@v.9876 i have ati/AMD gpus still living after long use and over a decade old. No issue.
I still have a 5700xt by XFX OC and still working perfectly
Do you upgrade video memory? Is it worth it to upgrade 3060ti fe memory?
Does it apply to all brands making AMD units?
Back in my day all of our electronics were smeared with copious amounts of cancer and we loved it. "Please sir, may I have another?" was our mantra and they abided.
That would be a XFX or PCB problem, not an AMD problem.
AMD still have reference spec that partners need to follow. This probably mean AMD probably allow partner to use this kind of PCB.
@@arenzricodexd4409 Partners are not obligated to follow the reference spec and they sell a lot of cards that don't follow reference specs. The solder mask composition might not even be part of the spec. Take a look at JLPCB or other PCB manufacturing websites quotes for PCBs and you'll see that the solder mask composition/quality isn't even something you have a say in, you only get to choose its color, so it's possible that neither AMD nor XFX even knew about the solder mask quality being lower. It's also possible that they either knew and didn't care or that they didn't know but wouldn't have cared if they later found out. The way I see it, this is only an AMD problem if it's more than just XFX boards or XFX allows the company that builds their PCBs to use such a solder mask for more than a single run after customer complaints start coming in and AMD doesn't do anything about it. Are other AMD partners having the same issue with their PCBs and if so, do they share the same manufacturer? Does anyone who is not having this issue with their boards, AMD or Nvidia, use the same PCB manufacturer as XFX? The latter would imply whether or not XFX (and anyone else having the issue) actually chose the inferior quality solder mask.
AMD reference card is the same.
What about the GRE?
question i own msi 7900xtx dos it have the same materials on this cards pcb or you havent gott msi one in your hands would love to know as if i ever needed a repair to know its useless to send it to you otherwise
To be fair: This has nothing to do with the GPU. If your car tire runs flat, that has nothing to do with the car manufacturer either.
This PCBs get mass produced by PCB manufactures, most likely in Asia. One single board assembler may even work with a couple of PCB manufactures at the same time to get its required supply.
The only thing here which potentially could be AMD related, is the notorious requirement for AMD equipment to be price cut as much as possible, to keep a reasonable market share. But this is purely speculative at this point.
Chiplet design that is notoriously hard to repair perhaps, but yeah i agree, pcb material used is not on them
Car manufacturers have a choice on who they get their OEM tires from. Let's say that if Ford gets tires from Quick (a relatively unknown tire manufacturer), that's on them.
@@triadwarfare never the less every tire can ran flat. So basically it doesn't matter. You may weight quality, sure. You can say you get one running nearly double the miles. But in the end both will do the job. If you abuse them, they will fail. You can say repairing a card is some kind of abuse, because it is not the intended use case.
But overall it's not AMD ordering the PCBs for XFX. XFX will order them somewhere in the world. And that's the point here: As like Ford is not responsible for the tires you buy, you can not imagine AMD is responsible for the PCBs XFX is buying. So blaming XFX for a not really good PCB quality? Sure, they are responsible. Even if they don't know about this quality and got ripped by some PCB manufacturer. But there is simply no responsibility for AMD in this case. By doing so, it's a wrong framing.
STOP with this stupidity about "the market share" AMD has 15-20% of the market because it's a company 6-7x smaller than Nvidia. This smaller company is focused on CPUs. Only a small part of resources, employees and R&D goes to Radeon.
Why do you think AMD has a similar market share in CPUs? Because of competing with Intel which is a massive company compared to AMD.
@@tomthomas3499 Chiplet design "notoriously hard to repair" is a single solid part. It does not cook itself like memory on Nvidia. Ever thinking you know... maybe it does not break. The broken "chiplet design" means you CAN"T FIX IT AT ALL. It's a one, single part.
This is interesting, I would have assumed all the cards would have the same solder mask from the same pcb manufacturer. Do you think the brands are specifying a different formula for the 7900 models only?
Wait... I thought having to reball a GPU even once was a sign it has a major design issue (or was handled very poorly)? So now we have to plan to get reballed many times? jeezers.
In that case, don't buy Nvidia, he 'reballs' them all the time.
@@brulaapgaapmeester8052 To Be Fair- NVidia has like 85-90% of the gamer GPU market iirc, and they have some much more valuable used cards at the top. Makes sense that would be his speciality. Not many would pay to reball a GPU worth less than $300. But he does not blame NVidia for NVidia card issues.. he always blames the card maker. A bit biased, he seems. To Be Far X2. He is not familiar with AMD cards.. so he probably already doesn't like working on them since he is outside of his comfort zone. I've had both NVidia and ATI/AMD cards die fwiw.
I love my ASRock 7900 XTX! What brand is this board?
Any AMD GPU brand that use better mak ?
Maybe it is just me, but I don't buy a videocard with the idea that I need to have it being repaired. I have a 7900XT and a 7900GRE at this moment, and using them daily for several hours, without any problems. I keep them cool, not overclocking or undervolting them and using bracket support. Not seeing any reason why I would have to change the GPU and/or memory. For me this isn't a main reason for not to buy these cards.
that issue is easy to prevent, NEVER purchase a gpu mounted on a pc and shipped.
buy it separatedly on its box and foam, and NEVER ship your pc.
or just never buy an amd gpu, problem solved :P
@@sei_asagiri nope, because pcb broken and ripped pads happens on nvidia same if treated like a soccer ball,
That has nothing to do with the actual problem. A new gpu could require a rework three months later of the purchase or three years later, depends of your luck. But hey, with these kind of pcb, you can't rework them that easy.
@@MGOFor3ver those are the minority, most of the repairs are ripped pads or even broken pcb because bad shipping while mounted. Dont you watch this channel videos or what? U should know.
@@MrDvneil this video has nothing to do with the broken pcb, its about the fundamental reparability of the chip lol
HAY I GOT A MSI 3060 NO COOLER AND I THINK IT WORKS IS THERE A WAY I CAN SEND YOU THIS FOR PARTS YOU CAN HAVE IT
I'm particularly worried about anyone who's primary worry is how many times they can break something.
what brand card/board is that? is it all 7900 series, or can you recommend a brand that doesnt do this?
Don't worry, this guy is just making things up, makes no sense whatsoever.
Lol worked on numerous 7900s and can assure you only 2 models ive seen from same manufacturer uses the mask, rest are easy to work on..
Does this apply to gigabyte variants?
northwest uncovering deceptive and anti-repair practices from one of AMD's largest board partner. Why am I not surprised...
And fanboys will still defend it just because AMD is the "underdog" compared to Nvidia.
Noted! Thanks.
Is this the case for 7800 series too?
No, 7800 was fine.
What about 6k series?
Aren't PCBs made by the AIBs?
Same issues with car paint. Water-based EU chips easily. Same with the “better” refrigerant in modern car’s aircon. Much more expensive, lasts less, but hey-ho, lets force it.
EVGA should have flipped to AMD
that's on XFX tho
apparently they all come from the same pcb manufacture so its every card.
@@sei_asagiri amd doesn't make pcbs
@@sei_asagiri Nope, this is not the card from AMD, it's the design of xfx
AMD Radeon is the same.
@@northwestrepairAs far as I know all reference PCB's are from PC Partner. Not AMD themself. MBA (Made By AMD) is a lie. So... Guess Nvidia GPU's from Inno3D or Zotac for example could have the same issue
I don’t need to reball my GPU in its useful lifetime & so I don’t think I’ll face this problem. Having a 3060 & a 7900 GRE which are both running fine. The major problem with the 7000 series is the MCM module which leads to the pumping out of thermal pastes over time & you will notice a gradual increase of the hotspot temps till the card throttles. PTM 7950 solves this issue but as a customer it should not be my obligation to fiddle with the card myself until the warranty runs out.
i'm sure Honeywell is happy with all the attention for their PTM from people who don't have a clue what's going on.
@@diaman_d I’m not an expert myself but the PTM definitely solved my hotspot temp issue. Just sharing my experience for my fellow owners who may have faced the same problem. Those who have problems are free to ignore my comment.
Is this exclusive to the 7900 series? I'm planning to buy a 7700 XT, and I am just worried about this post. Also, what brand should I buy? I saw that XFX might not be good at all. 😅
Sapphire seems to be the best in terms of AMD
XFX is great, my 7900XTX Merc Black is built well.
XFX has never failed me, I've got an rx 470 that still runs and my 7900xt merc is great
Sapphire, PowerColor, XFX. The holy trinity of AMD AIBs. Your best bet is to go with one of the 3 for your red team products. Also avoid any AIB that works with both AMD and Nvidia, they have a tendency to try and save money by reusing cooler designs that were designed for Nvidia on their AMD offerings. This results in poor performance because the way each side designs their cards is quite different, and a cooler optimized for one of course will not work as well for the other...
So what are you reccomend to buy
Not 7900xtx
@@northwestrepair Curious to know what card do you use?
Not a reason. Nvidia must calm down. A lot. And a good card needs no repair anyway . All my nvidia cards died a horrible death even back 15 20 years ago. Never had a single issue with any amd. Not even a crash.
It reminds me of when they banned asbestos head gaskets and replaced them with graphite, ie, lots of failures. Now they are multi layer steel(MLS).
No graphics card should have to be re-balled at all in the first place if users had a bit of respect for their hardware and handle it with the care it deserves.
I would agree in many cases but he has stated on more than a few occasions that lead free solder = bad
@@BobDevV No. Lead-free starts out as being harder and more brittle, then the bismuth segregates out of the copper and it cracks off. Mission critical components like in that of the military are still 100% leaded solder (when given a choice). *There are no accepted NASA or DoD standards for tin whiskers, OR for joint reliability when using lead-free, and they have documented the increased failure rates.*
A repair shop can just replace the solder with the one of their choice, and they have no issues reaching the melting point of lead free with professional tools, it's literally like 50c hotter. "I think all the issues with the card, from this video, stem from the sheer size of the card." You feel the solder mask being too soft to repair stems from the size of the card?
you mean xfx what amd do with pcb not building in first place
Is this warning about 7900 series cards for all brands or just some, or one? I ask because I was considering at some point, getting an AsRock Taichi RX 7900 XTX. If the prices ever come down to a non ridiculous amount. Hmm, so maybe I won't ever get one! 😉
Asrock boards are very good. A bit pricey, but if you can pay some extra it wouldnt disappoint (also taichi brand is like the very best stuff they have).
This is a warning about AMD 7900XTX because your graphics card needs re-balling at least 20x in its lifespan.
He says: "Don't buy because I have problems with your cards."
Not like don't buy because it's a bad or good card, architecture, cooling etc. He says only regarding fixing stuff. It's not about your experience. Don't buy 7900XTX because of his work easy or not. That's it. Also, I use Nvidia but would like an AMD card as well.
He is basically trolling, all service guys have their quarrels with different brands from the perspective of the guy that has to tear it apart to fix it. The 7900xtx is a great card.
@@alexturnbackthearmy1907 Thank you for your input, I appreciate it!
@@HanSolo__ I appreciate your take on it.
So I should buy 4090 which i can then send 20 times to you to reball it? Clever af mate :)))
That's mean durability wise the pcb on 4090 is better.
No, you should buy it so you can experience melted connectors. huehuehue
Will have to fix those cables as well, insane how team green's marketing completely dominates online discussion.
No..you should buy something that can be repaired.
Repairability=quality.
@@arenzricodexd4409 i never have needed to reball any gpu ever nor has 99.9% of people. titlecand content is clickbait.
do you know if all AMD brands are "environmentaly friendly" like this?!
most of the latest once, yes
@@northwestrepair did you look at sapphire gpus they have a pretty good reputation in general so it would be interesting if they use this kind of pcb
@@northwestrepair so no nvidia (power connector) and no amd... that doesn't leave much options now does it. Please find something wrong with intel too cause i sure don't want to go that way.
When you get to a point where repair does damage, you know you've gone too far. Just throw it in the bin
... is what manufacturers would say. It's a shame eco friendly and long lasting sometimes don't go hand in hand. After all, both save resources and environment.
It is a really interesting trade-off. From AMD's perspective this is a once-and-done product. It should work within specified conditions for about 5 years and then the technology will have progressed on so it can be recycled. Of course from the buyer's point of view, this card should be used for at least 5 years then have decent resale value or can be used by your cousin, family etc... If you keep repairing it and using it for many more years, then of course the cancerous coating is well worth it for the environment overall.
Why would i care about that? These GPUs come with 3 year warranty, it dies they send new one and thats it.. What strikes me more is how these people manage to ruin these expensive GPUs, In my 20 years i had one GPU killed by lightning and that is it..
I guess it doesn't matter to you if a company is making an inferior product? 20 year old gpus are not the same as new gpus, i hope you know that...
@@sei_asagiri nah i had like 15 different GPUs in last almost 20 years. Now i have 7800xt, before rtx 3060ti ... Speaking about inferior products, just chek entry Zotac, Gainward etc 4070 supers and what you get for 600$, plastic toys. Plastic backplate, cooler than sounds like jet engine if you want decent temps, total disaster in my opinion. With Nvidia these days, less you spend more you get screwed.
@@sei_asagiri inferior is a pretty big leap in terms of what the video is saying. The mask the uploader is complaining about makes the repair harder and he's unable to do the repair as many times. So for this to even be relevant to an end user the card has to fail outside of warranty, in a way that has him reballing the die. So it has to fail multiple times in a way for it to be reballed for the mask to be an issue with repairability, outside of any difficulties it may cause the technician.
@@roki977 I have had nothing but problems with my amd gpu, specifically amd drivers and windows compatibility. Nvidia graphics is also supported by way more programs and software than amd graphics. I like AMD cpus but i cannot recommend an amd card to windows users after owning one myself for over 2 years.
@@tguit-fiddler5692 the reason why old thinkpad laptops are still popular is because they can be repaired inexpensively and easily. Reparability is very important, especially in a world where tech corporations can legally decline your warranty for any reason.
I think you mentioned this issue in the past. The mask is crap, but the pads are sturdier compared to nVidia PCBs? Anyway it comes off with cleaning I guess? If you avoid IPA and such, and leave on the old flux, (which of course can cause issues too) could be the parts soldered back safely? Or the mask comes off even with heat+flux+solder wick combo?
This was coming off without alcohol, just by wiping flux away.
Also solder wick was scratching it too easily.
What I said in the past is, Samsung and hynix loose pads easily but micron does not.
At the same time it is good and bad for either one because Samsung and hynix are more likely to break than micron but if board is twisted enough, micron will take pads from the board with it where as Samsung and hynix will sacrifice them selves and save the board.
It's a tough choice to make for a consumer because it's broken either way.
From the repair stand point, Samsung or hynix is better because it saves the PCB.
@@northwestrepair Thanks for the clarification! It's really a bad design then. I hope these "single use" PCBs really won't be the new standard...
ensh!tification of things. In the future I'm going to use your videos as reviews to see what GPU I should buy.
Which vendor is it?
It does not matter. You should not buy it because of him. Not because of your choice.
@@HanSolo__lets ignore completely what we just saw.
Thanks for the heads up. I think some of the commenters are missing the point that the board, regardless of who makes it, is by design not robust enough to be repaired. Whether or not it has carcinogens or not is a side bar.
This will go through a company's testing no problem. They don't make cards expecting re-flow or repair activities, they work to a MTBF and will specify environmental conditions amongst others.
How much they cater for sagging for example is anyone's guess but there's no way they're thinking about repair tech's reflowing solder within them.
AMD are in a tough place with Nvidia's mammoth market share (bit like Google with its phones compared to say samsung), it both gives it a market (choice) but also makes it near impossible to grow very large.
For me they need to do R&D in AI suitability (ie remove the graphics element) to push new products in that market. It has potential to be bigger than the gpu market and given they already to design work it wouldn't be too big a switch but they need to find a next gen tech. Tough ask.
In retropective, I probably had 50/50 split on Nvidia/AMD in the last 25 years (after 3dfx death), mostly AMD during the 5xxx-7xxxx radeon days, and Nvidia in the last 10 years. If anyone wants to buy AMD, go with Sapphire. Never had an issue, I still have a 9800Pro AIW working (21 years old…), a 7970 GHz edition (my ultimate Win XP gaming pc).
Isn't this something more about the manufacturer (meaning XFX, Sapphire, Powercolor, etc.) than AMD themselves? Genuine question. I've always heard Sapphire is top notch quality when it comes to AMD, and I got my 7800XT from them for this reason.
The RX 7900 is a great graphics card and I recommend it to everyone.
If you like space heaters and overpaying, yes.
@@mintymus Stupid comment.
@@mintymus and the 4090 is not? LOL
@@jockeolzzon1222 Correct! Way more efficient than AMD friers. Thanks for proving me right.
@@mintymus Proved you right eh? The only thing proven here is that you don't know what you're talking about. UserBenchmarks would love to hire someone like you KEKW
Ur everyday user isn’t going to reball the cpu 😂
Then what GPU should I buy? I like AMD, works well with Linux.
Meh I consider all electronics disposable commodities anyway, especially computer components. They simply won't last forever.
It is so cool how the balls on the GPU core make that effect like when you record a screen.
Ok my takeaway from this video is; Nvidia gives you cancer...
Interesting. I actually have one (more specifically the Powercolour Hellhound Spectral White 7900XTX). I do have it supported and the PCB is dead straight, so hopefully it won't need reballing. Main reason I bought it is because it was the only recently powerful white card I could find which actually has a white PCB like my motherboard. 😅
So your logic is that its better for cards to be more repairable....Is it not better that they shouldnt need repairing in the first place? 90% of repair videos are 4090s
Products need to have repairs in order for our economy to keep going forward
90% of cards are nvidia................. who even buys amd. except poor broke ppl. cope
might have 60 pads to repair on the 4090 but sure you can reball it 20 times...
The same people make the boards with the same process, just a different design.
Really? We are picking on this now? And just how often would most users send their GPU for this kind of maintenance!? Once every 4years? Yeah, not worth slamming the 7900 XTX over, that's just nitpicking. Its so pretty, I'm just going to unsub right now. Don't have time for this bs
he picks on his fellow trade mates! he picks on gpus he picks on everything! im tired of his bs too!
You sound like you’d like to speak to a manager.
This is XFX’s fault, not AMD. AMD designs the GPU and propose a board reference, just like Nvidia. OEMs customize, build and sell.
You basically can't reball a pcb like that as much as you wish. Why buying a car that you won't be able to repair later? I mean, the chassis is made of wood..
Aw man no discrete GPU seems to be made well.
Just like cadmium alloy brazing rods and PCB in fluorescent ballasts 🤣They all worked well.
Me watching this on an XTX: "well damn"
To be fair though you should never need to do this level of work on any card if its well taken care of or at least bought from reputable manufacturers like Powercolor or Sapphire with good QC. Yet things can still happen so I understand why its frustrating from a repair point. Then again they are half the price compared to Nvidias offerings on a per tier basis so it makes sense that they needed to cheap out somewhere. Still are very good cards.
I mean I get the point but I see so many videos of 4090's that I legit think they're all ticking time bombs.
So environmentally friendly approach is a big no no, but cracking or melting is, yeah that about sum up current pc hardware situation 👍
That is an XFX Board not AMD
Kinda ironic... IIRC, ATI 'drug their feet' on becoming ROHS compliant.
I think the Radeon X800 was the last high-Pb soldered card.
I have a g1 gtx1070 and the white led on the pcb randomly turns on and off only while gaming .
Thats honestly the last thing i care about im impressed you can reball Nvidia GPUs 20 times but i dont want to pay that bill and i also dont want that GPU
Not sure if I can defend AMD on this one. However, buying AMD's lower models are unlikely to require a repair or repair cost might not be worth it vs replacing that card with a used one.
Is AMD responsible for the PCB or XFX?
but. . i already have a 7800 XT :c
Same, but dont worry. Use your gpu support bracket or switch it to vertical mount, and u wont ever have a problem like this
I didn't see that on a 7800
@@northwestrepair Really? o:
AMD hater is biased. AMD only makes the GPU itself, not the boards and their components.
Yes but they have their own PCB as well and it is exactly like that.
What about Radeon ?
It's even worse. When board is warm, mask washes off with alcohol.
This may only be affecting 7900xtx models because I have not seen it anywhere else.
@@northwestrepair Scary! That's covert anti-repair. It makes Jensen's $70k Black Well look less greedy a bit.
@@northwestrepairwait ipa damages it?
The one thing the humanity as a whole lacks right now is common sense. What a wonderful example the eco-friendliness in electronics is.....
Good to know!
hey thats cool, just found out my gpu is vegan
I still have an RTX 3080 and I am good until the 5000 series Nvidia cards come out... Then it is game on the 4000 series will go on sale.
Same. I have a 3060 and 4000 series wasn't reason enough to upgrade, atleast not new ones i guess.
Paying $500 for a tech demo in 3 games? Why not save money and get better raster? Man, Nvidia's marketing team has completely brainwashed these people..
@@diamondlion47 Tech demo hm? Well believe whatever conspiracy theory you want. Also facts are facts, and fact is that more than 3 measly games have features that Nvidia cards work best for.
Nvidia is far from perfect, nor is AMD!
You buy what you want / need. Nothing more to it, and AMD simps like you aren't better than Nvidia's. I'm slightly annoyed by your "brainwashed" comment but I can't deny that many see mthat way. No amount of preaching can change that, there will always be ill informed people buying what the like and not what's good necesarily.
Wish you would have shown PCB of other brands like Sapphire and their Nitro+ models. But oh well, Nvidia's power connectors are melting on rx 4090 and AMD got some issues of their own. I guess we should not buy any GPUs then :-D.
You use an inverted stencil to coat it with real solder mask.
also about fanbois crying about amd or nvidia and bla bla bla , one little explanation : nvidia surpased MICROSOFT as the most valuable company. Did amd or intel or sony or nintendo did that ? No? thank you and have a good day then xDDDDD.
Also saddly amd while being a top player in cpu segment right now (i own a 5800x3d and very happy with it) needs a lot and i mean a LOT of optimización in performance per watt , or efficiency. Saddly nvidia is better fps per watt and better math and AI per watt . You cannot argue with numbers. ask yourselves why no one buy amd cards for 3d rendering ,AI or things like that :/
everything aside , amd and nvidia dont care about us customers ,or us fighting over them . Bear that in mind and stop being fanbois ,embrace EFFICIENCY :)))
Does the 7900xt suffer from the same cheap mask used on 7900 xtx ?
As a 7900xt owner, probably, but I really wouldn't worry about it.
Chances are, your GPU will last at least 5 years regardless of the brand. This is only an issue **if** it needs to be repaired, and chances are, it won't need to be repaired.
@@trr4gfreddrtgf thanks for the info..
Good information 💯😮