Adding Speedpaint Medium and watching the world burn
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- Опубликовано: 8 июл 2024
- Carrying on our experimenting with @The Army Painter new Speedpaint range we wanted to have a look at how much their Speedpaint Medium effects their speedpaints.
It's easy to see the effects of the medium as you add more and more, yet it doesn't seem to effect the coverage or the feel of the paint - definitely another tool in the bag.
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What about Speedpaint medium with a non-speedpaint such as a normal Warpaint or Warpaint Air or maybe even an ink?
your tests are really helpful, thx mate. i think the 75% diluted purple one could be a great undercoat for yellow because the shadows stay dark and yellow over light magenta/pink/purple works great.
Another experiment to show us: how well do speedpaint colors mix with each other? Can you get the basic set and stretch it by mixing your own colors?
Yes, I am especially interested in mixing the strong colors with gray. In other words, how does gray tone down the brilliant color of the original pigment?
This helps to understand how to reduce shade and ratio of medium requires to produce results. Thank you
You could try adding something like liquitex ink to the medium.
Because of other videos mentioning reactivation I have a request, could you seal one of the models then go over it with Speedpaint, regular paint and also drybrushing to see if the paint underneath is safe? I asked AP and they said their Anti-Shine spray would work for this purpose, it would be helpful to see a test with other commonly available brands like Krylon (which I can also find here in Canada).
I want to play with the reactivation! Probably will be the next thing I look into! Will see what I can do!
Came here to ask the same thing.
I have the Mega-set on pre-order but I vehemently do not want to use spray cans.
I would be very interested to see what gently brushing on varnish would do to the APSP.
If it makes a mess, I may have to rethink my order.
@@zur13l13 Right with you there. I recall spray varnish also doesn't tend to work with certain types of miniatures, most notably Reaper Bones PVC.
An cheap airbrush is an rly good Investment.
I would be interested in this too having seen others complain about this.issue. especially as a newb level painter who has pre ordered the mega set :)
THANK YOU!! Excellent helpful presentation, as I recently got my Speedpaint mega-kit and did not know what the Medium was for.
Thanks for the comment! Check out the video we did on painting the Stormguard Drakes if you want to see medium used in anger! Super thinned down the Speedpaints and built up layers :)
Someone suggested trying this with water, and I’m curious about that too. Also experiments with the reactivation and varnish. Great video! 👍😁 I’m still looking to get the big package when it becomes available.
Could you do one like this but where you add water instead of medium?
Great, informative, video!
This is a fantastic video. Informative and fair with clearly explained objective and analysis.
Much appreciated! Thanks for the feedback
Very nice comparison. Thank you!
Painted the same monster recently using Instant colors from Scale 75. These Fireteam Zero minis are quite great for practice with their high-textured surfaces.
P. S. Let the Galaxy burn!
I would like to see you get the different yellows needed for minis. ie. Blonde hair vs vibrant X-Men yellow because Zealot Yellow is a bit on the orange side, so it requires mixing with Holy White or Pallid Bone or Sand Golem
Loving the edit, it's so silly
Avoiding the hard questions!
How Does It Taste?
Oh gawd. Awful!!!! I lick my brush way too much not to know this :,(
I'm most interested in variations in the Crusader Skin, since that's the only humanish skin color in the range.
For people in the comments asking: Army Painter and Citadel contrast lines are ink based, warcolour and scale instant are paint based. That means the former behave more like a wash and the latter more like nihilakh oxide technical.
You can approximate the behavior of these paints with a diy mix of
1:1:1 of ink:flow aid:matt medium with the added benefit of picking your colors.
I assume you can add Inks to army Painter or citadel contrast and get a similar effect
Having the colors ready and purchasable is nice.
But knowing how to diy them is also cool. Thanks for the comment.
I actually suspected it, I've used contrasts as wash by diluting them in contrast medium.
Greenworld stuff is launching their own ink based paints and they do behave a lot like contrasts... And makes sense, if it's the same kind of mix.
@@jjcc8379 Is this new line different than their inktensity line?
I REALLY like the 50/50 mix!
Great stuff friend 👏 👍
Plenty of comments,not just here, about reactivation with multiple coats or even acrylics for highlights. A deal breaker for most if true.
Army Painter's official line on this is a spray varnish between each layer... but that kind of takes the speed out of the job.
Some trials around activation would be perfect.
* 2nd coat straight over 1st
* 2nd coat after a cured first coat (maybe one at 10 mins drying, another at 1 hour drying)
* acrylic over 10 min dried base coat.
Etc.
I've been using these extenseively for two weeks, and have found that if I let the paint dry for a couple of hours, reactivation is not an issue. For highlights, I just do them the next day.
@@Devorum I've since had my paints arrive and have had no issues with reactivation either. I think the key is a mix of limiting the amount of water in your top layers and giving the speedpaint a good time to dry and cure.
Can you use the medium to turn regular acrilic paint into speed paint?
Also would like to just see more videos painting with the speed paint normally.
Good question! I’ll go give that a try. There’s plenty of videos painting more miniatures coming. Some are on the channel already with early access to our Patreons. They will go public in the coming weeks :)
Yeah I wondered that. Also what happens if you mix speed medium with contrast paint? Some kind of ungodly alchemy no doubt.
Do they mix well with each other, or other paints for that matter. Thinking on how to better that green?
A friend mentioned to me that someone on that reliable source of science "Reddit" had said speed paints need a clear coat before adding any other paint. Is this true that you cannot paint directly on top of speed paints?
The reactivation problem: could you try to mix speedpaint with brush-on varnish. Does it prevent the reactivation - and does the speedpaint still work as it should? Or doesn't it help at all. This would be a solution to not have to work with varnish between painting steps!
Thanks! I wonder if I can use Liquitex Glaze Medium and achieve the same effect. 🤔
How about mixing speedpaint with their "fairy dust" effects bottle that comes in the metallic colours set? Im curious what that would do. Thanks!
ooh, that could be cool!
Have you tried mixing the medium with normal acrylics? There's no decent yellow in the SpeedPaint line
You seen the new line of Speedpaints? Two new yellows! And I’m a big fan of both!
@@WatchItPaintIt Oh no! A new line? Great
Loads of video recently on the channel about it. We helped develop the new range and last week we painted an Imperial Fist space marine - shows then new yellow in all its glory
Great video, could you do this test with the black please?
Think it's worth putting AP's answer regarding Contrast vs Speedpaint in here, since "everybody" seems to think it's a Contrast replacement.
This was posted on Juan Hidalgos channel.
"The Army Painter för 6 dagar sedan
Thanks for the review JH! We are fans and cherish your feedback. It’s common for people to compare and “contrast” with Speedpaint. However it’s actually a pretty unique formulation. Yes, it can be deactivated, which is why we recommend a clear coat and if you plan to highlight on top. The chemical make up that allows for the reactivation to happen is actually what helps to prevent tide marks and coffee stains."
"The Army Painter för 2 dagar sedan (redigerad)
@Billy Wardlaw At the end of the day, we’re not competing with anything but I promise to make a true one coat paint solution. And, we stand by that commitment. I think the major problem is, the people want to compare this to Contrast, but In achieving our goal to our commitment the products are very different."
How does AP Speedpaint medium compare to using citadel contrast medium?
We haven't noticed a significant difference in how they perform.
I would like to see comparisons of the lighter colours on different primers, e.g. white, bone and grey.
Don't know if anybody asked this already (to tired to read the comments atm :'( ). But if you tested the re'activation "issue", did it change anything, when you added more medium?
The video was great as always. (-:
Think 2:1 or 1:1 ratio will be my go to, for the darker colours because the pure SP is a tad to dark for my taste.
Can you please confirm something. If the paint is mixed with medium, say 50/50, does it stop the reactivation issue? Ordered these and can’t wait to start painting. Great video by the way!
Nope doesn’t stop the “issue”. Check the video this Friday tho. I’m going to bang on a bit about how the issue isn’t all that bad :D I either avoid it or use it to my advantage
Where can I get this mini
These are from Fireteam Zero
So this is what its for? I used water and it worked fine..
Way to go Count! Lovely video. By the way...how many cans of Pringles do you eat per week?
One every morning for breakfast in a bowl with milk!
Its there a difference to army painter standard acrylic medium? Can I use that with speedpaints 🤔
Yes there’s a difference, I’d recommend the Speedpaint medium for Speedpaints. But you only need it if you want to thin them
@@WatchItPaintIt thanks just say your vid when you 1st used them to paint some ruined pillars in mud will definitely try that dirt blend trick with the thinner on my Zombicide Undead or Alive when it arrives 😁👍
Great video, could you please do a video about reactivation. I was going to preorder the mega set but now I'm not so sure. Thanks :)
i cant find these for sale anywhere
Army Painter website, not released until late March.
I preordered from my LGS and picked them up Wednesday.
@@chrisshaw451 Small pack in february, mega set in march.
how about Speedpaint with Contrast medium and vice versa? For the full culture shock?
Got that one covered already!
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Hmmm thinned downed a bit and that color almost looks useable >XD
Did you see my stormcast drakes I painted? I thinned stuff down to like 5% light contrast colours and still used it! Always a place for a super thin colour :D
@@WatchItPaintIt I have not, most vids I've seen it used in go unthinned and it ends up in that suuuuper deep purple, good for shadows not so much for color. I know I've use a purple wash over zenethal for Deamonette skin in the past. I'll have to give the thinned version of Speed paint a try on some of the others I got laying around. Thanks bud!
I thought the Medium was supposed to be used to add to the regular paints to make them a "speed paint"??
Nope, it’s for thinning Speedpaint
What a waste.
What was?
@@WatchItPaintIt You used way too much drops for just 1 miniature haha. Everything in the name of science, i guess.
@@kraziel oh tell me about it, did you see our first videos and me moaning about dropper bottles for this type of paint? Having to guess how much I’ll need each time and massively getting it wrong!!
@@WatchItPaintIt Yes! I did watch all your videos regarding the speedpaints, it has been REALLY helpful. And actually, me and my girlfriend prefer these droppers from Army Painter! It has been much better to manouver than our acrylic bottles. We can very precisely mix different colors, and drop just what we need for each section of each miniature (which is very, very little, since our Descent miniatures are small AF). But you could've for sure used fewer drops for these miniatures, I was watching the video in despair of how much paint you were wasting hahah. Anyway, this was a very helpful video, this dark purple been giving us trouble, since we don't yet have the speedpaint medium (starter set). Thank you for the effort!