How Norway succeeded with electric cars | Christina Bu | TEDxArendal
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- Опубликовано: 27 мар 2023
- Norway has long, cold winters and steep mountains. Not exactly the ideal place for electric cars, one would think. Nevertheless, Norway is the country in the world with the most electric cars in relation to the population. No less than 78% of new car sales are now electric.
How did this happen? How has the Norwegian electric car success influenced the uptake of electric cars in other countries? And what can the rest of the world learn from us? Christina Bu, born 1980, is head of “Norsk elbilforening” (the Norwegian EV Association), a role she has had for eight years.
Earlier she worked as a political adviser within mobility and environmental issues. She has a BA in political science from the University of Oslo and a MA in Society, Science and Technology Studies from the University of Oslo and Maastricht University.
The Norwegian EV Association is an NGO and consumer organization that has been fast growing and now has over 50 employees and over 120.000 members - EV drivers from all over the country. This makes it the worlds’ largest EV driver organization. The organization plays an important role both nationally and internationally when it comes to promoting the shift to electric mobility, and work in collaboration with governmental bodies, industry and other organizations. This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at www.ted.com/tedx
It's streaks ahead of other nations because Norway waives import duties and car registration taxes for electric vehicles. The country's electricity comes almost exclusively from hydropower, making electric car use in Norway particularly clean.
For all the commenters below, I think the purpose of this talk is not simply how viable electric cars are in your country. This talk is highlighting that major policy changes are only possible when change comes from above, below and in between - all sectors of your population working together - either for economical, political, or personal reasons. Maybe electric cars are not viable in your region, okay, then what other major changes for the better is your region capable of accomplishing?
Hhmm. ["Not viable in your region'] .the deep cold of most of Norway is the most non viable environment for EV batteries (apart from sweltering deserts). And yet.... Norway & 80% EV sales!!....
@@alexmanojlovic768 because they force everbody to buy EVs? and subsidize the maintenance and battery change? take those subsidies away you will see the EV market crashing. and before you ask the compasete this subsidies with oil and gas sells.
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Great to hear how Norway has achieved this milestone of making their environment cleaner.
Still more to do, getting the rest of the ICE vehicles off the road, but a great start!
A shortcoming to using Norway as an example when it comes to electric mobility is that the world may not have enough extractable materials to convert the entire world’s auto fleet to electric vehicles.
Also: for many countries more investment in public or semi-public transportation, particularly outside/between cities, would be much more effective than worrying about changing people’s behaviour for private vehicle purchase. Norway already has excellent intercity bus and train service. Countries like Canada, where I’m from, could reduce emissions considerably more and more efficiently, by improving and encouraging public transit use.
Exactly, shame on Norwegian politicians and deciders.
Theiy pushed to roll out electric cars at beta technology stage (that still is the case with L+ based batteries) onto the market. They have made the world poorer of minerals and metals that are crucial for the future.
And doing so they have reduced the chances for people in the global south developing green solutions in their poor economies.
Finally the results are more GHG worldwide.
And billions of people in the global south are still suffering without any chance to get enough electric power and food for their simpliest needs.
I forget to mention that the big fossil fuel seller norway is one of the biggest winner if there is longer and more demand for fossil fuels wordwide.
Great! Clean streets, healthy people
it is a excellent idea to help people to thing about our environment, thanks for made job :)
What carbon-neutral energy is used to charge the vehicle? What carbon footprint does the manufacturing of the fuel cells have? How long-lasting and what kind of recycling process is needed for the fuel cells? Just some of the Questions one should ask
Not to mention the price of new batteries when they are done. Thats crazy.
100% of energy in Norway is from hydropower. So they don't depend on solar activity, winds, prices or time. A river produces the same amount of energy per night as it produces per day. They also have water storages to get more electricity if there is a need. So in my oppinion their example is great but worthless for most of countries in the world. There are few who can recieve 100% of their energy from hydropower so
How much does the Human life cost to mine the cobalt to manufacture the battery?
@@TheButterBread Cobalt is also used in gas production, the cellphone you are using, and your computer. And where were these questions when we made cars for the past 150 years? Suddenly this is very important to people. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad this is issued, but it is not isolated to electric cars, and electric cars are moving away from cobalt. There are huge oil spills about every month, there are so many they are not worth mentioning.
Questions that has been answered by multiple studies long ago.
This TEDx talk is an inspiration to the world, showcasing how a small country like Norway can make a significant impact on reducing carbon emissions and creating a sustainable future. The success of electric cars in Norway is a result of a combination of factors, including government incentives, public awareness campaigns, and investment in charging infrastructure. Christina Bu's passion for sustainability and determination to drive change is contagious, and it's evident that the Norwegian model can be replicated in other countries. Let's all take action and work towards a greener, cleaner future.
Even with electric cars, we need to change our systems so we aren’t car dependent anymore.
You’re talking about a bigger picture. She’s basically head of an automobile association and her job is to promote cars.
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I'm amazed by this country that could do such a great thing... A thing important to the entire world
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by selling oil and gas?
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So looking forward to Nordic EV Summit.
Great Talk!
Considering Norway is approx. the size of New Mexico.... sure we could make New Mexico electric cars ONLY.
If you put Norway over the US, it would stretch from the Mexico gulf to Canada. Driving from where I live in the south east of Norway to Paris takes less time than driving to Tromsø in the north.
It's the size of Japan with only 5 mill people.
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Which is about the size of California.
@@justme-dm7sb Well, Norway is very long and narrow, but I don't understand why everything has to be made into som US thing. I couldn't care less to be honest. Norway covers the continent of Europe from top of Germany to somewhere down the Italian Boot.
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It helps having an electric infrastructure that has baseline hydropower (that many country's do NOT have)... And also when Norway ISN'T exporting a huge amount of oil/gas (that eventually will be consumed & put into the atmosphere) can Norway wag their finger at other country's.
Very much agree there, nobody ever seems to care where the charging power comes from. It's got to be green mate, there is no smoke coming out of the socket
Well, Germany needs oil and gas, and where would they be without it.
"if it can be done in Norway, it can be done anywhere". Try telling that to someone who lives in a country that can't even afford the basics.
Until electric vehicles are genuinely affordable, and there becomes an abundance of second hand electric cars available for sale, increasing the taxation on internal combustion engines will only hurt people with low incomes
The fact that the countries entire population is as big as some cities may have played a role.
Yeah they keep those facts out
Same reason they praised New Zealand with low Covid numbers because they had a woman leader.
Not the fact the Island has twice as many sheep as humans.
But Mongolia (the most mascuiline Asian country) was ignored, same reason as NZ on why they had low numbers
Population of Norway is small and concentrated, meaning the additional cost on power grid and EV infrastructure is not the same as a larger country. Some countries still burn coal or natural gas to generate electricity, and if they transition to all EV solution they need to figure out how to fundamentally change their energy mix. Without clean electricity, shifting to EV won't make much difference.
Norway is big and challenging in area, while small in population. Norway is the size of Japan in area, but only 5 mill people. Someone said only 2,2% land is farm land, so now you know why so few people live here.
Heck I can't even afford a used gas car in the U.S. anymore. Good thing I bought an ebike at the start of covid.
Meu sonho é ter um carro eletrico com preço acessível no Brasil. Infelizmente os interesses pessoais de muitos políticos e empresas sobrepõem o que seria o correto a ser feito para fomentar esse mercado.
Interesting
My question is if transport only accounts for 20% of the CO2 emissions, why are we not focusing on the other 80%? That would have a significant impact.
We are! Transportation is just one of the largest portions of carbon emissions and it's widely understood as such among lots of people. Other industry like construction, energy production, and manufacturing also have large focuses on reducing carbon emissions
If we use coals to generate electricity, the larger percent of electric cars is useless. We still generate carbon emissions.
The world is complicated and we have to start somewhere. If we instead focus on what we can't do, nothing will ever be done.
Any country can do this is they can afford to forego 80% or their road tax. In other words, you need to be a rich country.
they sell oil and gas they are no better the arabes.
Norway is smart- they stop using oil by investing in alternate propulsions for transportation. This way they can export more oil, make more money and invest the money in their pension fund. If us stopped using oil, it’ll have a big trade surplus.
"buying an electric car is still a lot more expensive that an equivalent [ICE] car", bingo. In the UK second-hand electric cars are holding their value pretty well. But it also poses the question with greater battery/range improvments, an older electric car may not be as good as a newer model.. so people are still priced out of it. Electric cars are not the future for travel. Public transport is - improve the trains, tram & bus infrastructure and people will use it.
An MG4 is now the same cost as a Ford Fiesta…though better performance
"Making electric cars the future of our country", but the world still doesn't have any idea of that 👍
lets see when they cant sell oil and gas if the subsidies they to ev owners will last.
@@zedeco oil companies are heavily subsidized all around the world
@@royphillips7644 Only if you live in the Persian golf, Russia, and some SA countries, in the West its the opposite
@@royphillips7644hm, not sure about that. In Norway they have to pay massive taxes for using our common resources.
Good one..we should all follow Norway on this case
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Amazing what an intelligent united people pulling together can achieve. Compare and contrast divided, class riden, Brexshit Britain. Neither intelligent nor united but focus on what divides us at every turn.. Be very proud Norway and you be very proud Christina as a very effective leader and communicator. Superb..
Where does the electricity come from? Where does the rate earth minerals come from? The lithium? The cobalt? NOT GREEN. Inhumane mining. And toxic lithium batteries you can’t throw away.
@@sbrown6434 I don't disagree with you but the current hydrocarbon industries are a shining example of sustainability and ethics ofcourse. The short term problem is the burning of hydrocarbons. We need to improve the solutions which we have and many are fighting to make those initiatives a reality. Arguing with each other and pointing the finger at everybody else gets us nowhere. And don't pretend that the existing hydrocarbon industries don't have a huge interest in promoting those divisions.
@@sbrown6434 All the electricity in Norway comes from hydro electric plants. But even woth the «average European energy mix» (hydro, gas, coal, nuclear) an electric car is still much cleaner than a fossil car
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@@sbrown6434 Well, Cobalt is being used less and less in EV batteries. As for Lithium mining, Australia is the world's largest producer of lithium, and the Health and Safety requirements are pretty nuts, so that discounts your "inhumane" comment. As for throwing away Lithium batteries - Why would you throw then away, when they can happily be recycled? The world is rapidly changing, would suggest that you possibly look to different sources from where your "research" is coming from and revisit your ideas.
What’s all the more impressive is that Norway is such a big advocate of electric vehicles yet it’s primary source of wealth is oil and gas production. It seems like a pretty enlightened country to me as the growing move to EVs will presumably damage it’s main industry.
Interesting point
they are outsourcing their pollution, they pollute the same, but if it out of sight it is out of mind.
I wanna go to Norway and settle there and enjoy the best of nature. They really want to save our planet . I think Norway is the second most environment friendly country after Bhutan
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Buying a brand new car every 2 years has a bigger impact on the environment, that keeping your old car for 6 years. Production of a brand new car is very costly. Hence 3 brand new cars, have a much larger carbon footprint, than 1 car. So if you are buying new cars all the time, you are not really green, compared to the ones who keep owning their car, for as long as it can be maintained.
my 16 year old ICE car is more eco friendly then evs, we have a consumist problem that take more resources that earth can produce that is the real problem that no one whant to talk about because they want to buy their new iPhone every year instead of keeping the old one that still work but it is 1 year older.
erm.. that would imply people are buying a new car every 2 years then trashing them... ye.. no... that doesn't happen. People who love to drive new cars mostly just subsidise those who don't mind a barely used one, and who will drive that for 5-10 years and sell it of to someone who needs a cheap car to drive until it's no longer worth repairing.
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The next morning, the barber came to work and there were 12 prayer books and a thank you note from the priest in front of the door.
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The next morning, the barber came to work and there were 12 Nigerians in front of his door waiting for a haircut!!!
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Let's be real, shall we? The ONLY reason why Norway has many EVs is because the purchase tax is waived. This tax typically made a car from twice to five times more expensive than the country of origin depending on motor power, weight, CO2, and NOX. This is ALL there is to it. No other country in the world will be able to copy this because no other country has such a crazy tax regime, well except Denmark.
And that was her point in parts of the talk. Tax what you don't want more and people will slowly change.
If you don't tax these things already, well then maybe it's time.
@@Gazer75 No, that's the ONLY point.
@@Gazer75 maybe its time for you to pay 100% tax for your ev and no subsidies, lets see how long you can last paying 60K battery replacement and tires wear out way faster then ICE so more polution.
@@zedeco There are 0 subsidies. VAT is applied to the amount above 500K NOK. Tolls and ferries are now up to 70% of normal fee for EVs, used to be 50%.
The annual fee for owning an EV is higher than ICE cars.
What battery replacement? There are plenty of examples where Tesla Model S have done over 120k miles and still have over 70% of original battery capacity.
Even so a new battery will cost 10-30K USD usually depending on model. Replacing defective modules is much cheaper.
Know how to take care of the battery and it will last a long time. Don't charge to 100% every day or leaving car at 100% a lot.
Keep battery at 45-75% for every day use if possible and it will help extend the life of the battery a lot. It may throw off the BMS after a while so a slow full charge will help rebalance the cells. Slow charge as much as possible as DC fast charging is not good for the battery over time.
Tire wear is not much higher than ICE cars if you know how to drive. People wearing out tires is because they accelerate and brake to hard.
If you drive a lot and get over 200k km (~125k mi) in a few years you'd have saved a lot of money on fuel.
The difference in running cost here in Norway on an EV using 180Wh/km (3.5mi/kWh) vs ICE car using 7L/100km (~33mpg) is insane. If you charge 80% at home its around 3.5 times cheaper to drive an EV. Even if you only fast charge it should be nearly half he price.
We pay around 7.5-8.0 USD/gallon for gasoline. Home charging is 9-15c/kWh while fast charging is around 43-53c/kWh in winter. In summer it can be down to 33c/kWh. Subscribe to Tesla SuC (~12$/month) or own a Tesla and you find prices down around 24c/kWh.
@@Gazer75 i dont need to read a text wall when i can go to the official government source use a translator that i develop my self and see for my self, bullshiting to me doesn't work, your oil and gas pay for all those subsidies and benefits, nothing is free and EVs are not low cost because of the rare minerals your government is paying to lower evs price and no taxes when they damage more the road.
No, Norway isn't larger in size than Germany. Norways mainland is 323.810 km² and Germanys 357.588 km². But like in Norway, even the biggest "I hate the Greens!" faction buys electric cars, because... they are cheaper (for them) in the long run. Because of taxation, lower upkeep and a lot of other financial benefits. And... that's like another TEDx Talk wrapped up in three sentences.
Norway is still over 385.000 km², you can't just ignore Svalbard, Bjørnøya and Jan Mayen ;)
@@Gazer75 Not the mainland.^^
@@NSA.Monitored.Device uh? I didn't hear any mention of mainland in the video. Even so the islands are part of the Kingdom of Norway, so they can't be ignored when looking at total area.
If so then maybe we should remove Rügen from the area of Germany? It is an island after all :P
Land area maybe, but Norway is the length of continental Europe to somewhere down the Italian boot, where Germany only covers half of it.
Electric vehicles aren't as green as you think... The material extraction, manufacturing, energy source and recycling phase are all really polluting. The real solution in transport is public transport, not EV's.
Still way more green than fossil cars. There you have emissions for its entire life, including all the emissions to produce and transport that fuel to the consumer.
Public transport can also be green. There are lots of electric, and bio gas busses in Norway as well. Trams, light rail and subways are electric.
The regular rail network is mostly electrified as well. And they are extending this. Trondheim-Stjørdal and the Meråker line is being electrified.
The rest of the Nordland railroad is probably getting partially electrified by using battery driven locos when it is to expensive to do so. There are some parts where to many tunnels and bridges would have to be rebuilt compared to the amount of traffic on the line.
@@Gazer75 yes public transport is great, but if we want to replace all fossil cars with EV's, we'll have a lithium shortage on our hand. That's why EV's aren't a real solution, we shoulf start by replacing the car with walking or public transport when possible, then reduce the size of cars instead of making huge SUV's and only then make small sized EV's
@@guillaume5313 Pretty sure recycling batteries will happen before any lithium shortage.
Wouldn't surprise me if they come up with some battery tech using more common materials at some point.
@@Gazer75 technosolutionism won't solve climate change, and recycling is a myth, the best we're able to do is decycling (loss of quality and quantity after reycyling process)
We have to accept that we need to consume less as a species if we want to face climate change
Lithium is everywhere. There is a huge deposit in Nevada in the United States and also a huge deposit in Canada.
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A 5 million person solution does not translate directly for a 300 million person country. End a 300M solution doesn’t directly apply in a 1B country.
Why not? The number of people is just different. Pretty sure there are way more EVs in the US than Norway by a wide margin. Imagine if there were more tax incentives.
Problem with the US is how the tax system works (who is taxed and how much) and what the tax money is spent on.
I see people use the argument that Norway has oil and gas and because of that they are rich. The US dont? They got loads more natural resources than Norway ever had, but it was privatized and the profits went to a few. In Norway the oil and gas industry is taxed 78% or something.
@@Gazer75 you clearly have no knowledge of physics or engineering infrastructure.
@@zedeco Your point being what?
It's the excuse the US always use when something requires them to actually do something. The only impression I get is that people from the US has given up already, nothing can be done there.
Norway is mpressive country.
Lady have you seen the size of New Zealand compared to Australia? You can drive across NZ in an hour. It takes 4 days to drive across Australia. And Costa Rica compared to Mexico. Come on? Costa Rica land area 51,000 compared to Mexico 2 million. New Zealand 268,000 verses Australia 7.6 million Km's squared. And do the math on how much cO2 it takes to make an EV. It's twice as much so over the life of both they come out pretty much on par. Around 12 tonnes of CO2 to make your not so friendly EV
Not with two giga, castings, and a structural battery pack. Tesla manufacturing is light years ahead of everyone else
I don't know what I was talking about 5 minutes ago let alone 5 months ago. What's your point about?
12 hours charging? You’re not using a 350 kw Tesla charger. 95% of car owners drive less less than 30 miles a day.
ah yes so very clean. where did the electricity come from? lmao
Hydroelectric power ;), we don't use oil domestically. Norway is rich in natural resources.
Thats not good. Youre ruining the rivers and changing the biodiversity in the area. Hydroelectric damns are awful. Got anything better?@@TullaRask
Youre drying up rivers.. just to make electricity. Next@@TullaRask
@@Aksm91ManNavar lol, some have very little of it, we have too much. Anyways they are all old from around 1920 or something, a bit late to cry now.
@@Aksm91ManNavar we're not drying up rivers, we're picking up waterfalls before they land. That's the most efficient way to do it. We've been doing it for as long as anyone has lived in this country. Water falling is very powerful and can be used to run Mill with wheels etc.
The cost of this revolution is approximately 4 billion usd pr year (39,8 NOK according to state budget) paid by 5 million people. (= ca 800usd/person)
This started as a rescue for the Norwegian Th!nk car, and when iMiev, Leaf and Tesla suddenly came, the intensifies became irreversible.
Worst of all is that the electric cars is not suitable for poor people, even though it is cheaper in use, because those el-cars how also works for long distances it's still heavy priced, and it's very impractical if can't charge it at home.
The environmental gain versus a Prius or other modern ice is marginal, so use your money on things that matter instead.
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The Eco-warriors bang on about Electric Electric Electric. One question: China India African Continent has not fully developed Where is all the Copper going to come from 10's if not Giga tones of Copper All the Wind Turbines Have Tons of Copper and it will grow as Turbines get bigger.
Norway has an amazing Sovereign Wealth Fund Pays or Tax Payer as it only has 5 million people + the Migrants.
The 48 V wiring system developed by Tesla drops the demand for copper drastically. The wires are much thinner.
Electric cars reduces carbon emission and is really great
you need carbon so that trees can produces oxgen for you to breath, i don't get where people get this idea of co2 is bad when it is the reason they can breath without dieing.
Start your ice vehicle in the garage with the door down and then you’ll see the light. Stay there long enough, and that will be the end of you.
@@royphillips7644 do the same with any element in the periodic table that is in the air, the result is the same, so let's end O2 as well? CO2 is 0.047% in the atmosphere, we should sue the oceans since water vapor has the same effect and is 33% of the atmosphere, i can play this game as well.
Is it just my opinion that the electric car, more often than not, only exports pollution to the countries where the rare metal deposits are mined, to the places where they are processed and to the vast spaces over which they are transported to the final assembly?
Yes. It is just your opinion.
@@bru512 it the opnion of many, but hey as long you don't see the impacts of your green life style its ok even if people have to die from cancer because of heavy metals in the air like in the sacrificed zone in south America right?
We shouldn't have to be FORCED by the government to not have a CHOICE / freedom to choose.
Here in USA the same is happening, but it's taking away freedom. If the government increases cost of gas, decreases taxes for electric, they will eventually squeeze out gas powered cars.
I do agree, electric is better for the environment etc...
But we shouldn't have government regulation taking away our freedom of choice.
Electric is only better in isolation. The best thing for the environment is alternative fuels and CO2 recapture.
How do you want to achieve the necessary transformation then without nudging through taxes etc.? The argument of freedom is a lame one, because there is no freedom in polluting the environment, when an alternative is at hand....
No, you are correct there. Fossil fuels should be taxed accordingly to how much damage they do the environment, and highly polluting companies should stop receiving federal grants, bailouts and protection from foreign oil and gas extraction. Exxon Mobil cost American taxpayers between 12 to 19 billion dollars - Each year
Keep up the good work, inspiring.
Bought a 2nd hand petrol SUV, added a roof rack and will maintain it myself for 20y. Don't see the point of pushing for electric any more.. it is happening and will happen in due time.
She may have misspoke. “Electric cars are zero emissions”. If she meant to say that, most agree that is not true…..where does electricity come from? With massive tax breaks, of course this provides tremendous advantage to that technology. Why must we mandate any technology, but rather unleash innovation to solve the problem with a level playing field. One alternative is scrubbing the endless supply of carbon from our atmosphere in order to make a fuel that is minimally polluting to include large trucks and aircraft. It requires no modifications of any sort to power existing ICE. It may not be THE solution, but perhaps a bridge to one. Look up Porsche and Synthetic Fuel. Good luck to us all!
The Norwegian Plan for EV adoption: 1) Discover oil & gas, and save up a trillion dollars over 50 years. 2) Situate yourself in a geographical location that supports 91.5% Hydro power. 3) Change the tax structure so that 78% of the road fleet (78% = the EVs) are effectively untaxed, a step that is easily affordable (see Step 1 for instructions). 4) Don't mention the existence of other users of fossil fuels, such as heavy construction equipment and aircraft. Keep the focus on EV cars. Yep, easy peasy.
Well you have to start somewhere. If you nitpick each and every step towards the right direction, there won't any progress at all
So in Norway there is a growing fleet of electric heavy construction equipment, and a policy to electrify domestic flights. And guess what, the operators are finding them cheaper to run.
So what’s your point. With all that oil it would have been much cheaper in the short / medium to stick with ICE
@@neilswanson9622 it is not a surprise that it is cheaper when the government subsidizes everything with oil and gas, is comment is on point, step 1 the most important step.
Norway, you guys are awesome.
she didnt mention that the subsidies are payed with oil and gas, if everybody stop using oil and gas Norway collapse.
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Great! Our rich neighbour has money for cash tax discounts on new electric cars. Has this large (area-wise) rich oil-producing country with a small population thought about the negative side of EV ownership? 1) Use of child labour for minerals in Africa and the ecological devastation in those countries? 2) EV great if we all dont live in flats without overnight charging facilities. 3) Proven fact that in cold climates eg. Scandinavia, Canada etc. EV lose power and not very reliable. 4) You have to live in a rich country like Norway to have the investments in charging stations!
1) absurdly overblown and ignores how materials for ICE cars don't magicly appear either. 2) still cheaper to charge anywhere than buying gas 3) reliability is no issue. but just like ICE cars you waste energy, both for heating and due to higher rolling resistance on snowy roads. 4) yes, a richer country can start building infrastructure and more importantly, spend the time and money to learn how to build it... you know.. just like it was for ICE cars. the infrastructure for refining and transporting and distributing gas didn't magicly appear over night anywhere either.
Hasnt affected Norways oil consumption 😅
How did they make up for the lost tax revenue?
selling oil and gas.
I like electric cars and if I could afford one I would buy one. But people thinking they are helping the planet buying electric cars they are not helping. After you mine the metals out of the ground to make the batteries and you have to make the electric to charge the battery, you are not carbon free.
You can't have electric vehicles in places like Alberta Canada it get down to -30c and -40c. During January and February electric cars have difficulty charging in this weather Norway does not get this cold. We would have to spend millions and maybe billions on new infrastructure. Most power grids (especially in low income neighborhoods) are not equip to make this switch by 2030. Never in history has a technology demanded the amount of raw materials needed for the transition of electrical cars not to mention the raw materials are excavated with diesel powered engines shipped across the ocean on a diesel powered cargo ship then they are manufactured into parts on electric grids powered by fossil fuels and shipped across the ocean again to be assembled on another power grid.
Lol Røros has temperatures up to -40 and very commonly -20 in winter
and Finnmarksvidda has up to -50, but more commonly -30
@@jonnykvalnes4847 Well those cars are only city commute cars they're not for any rural northern Canadian province, territory or Alaska.
@@Django897 not to mention that the government n norway gives subsidies if you own a ev, changing a ev in norway for free is payed by the oil and gas norway sells.
@@zedecoentirely false. norwegian electricity prices is dictated by our electricity supply,. which since the early 1900s have been very very high with very low cost per kwh. recent changes (ie, using this electricity to power off shore platforms for example) have literally increased the cost of electricity, not reduced it. there's no government funded free EV charging, period.
@@Agarwaenoh boy oh boy, when you realize that all your oil and gas sell are invested in the American stock market you are going to have a rough awakening of how fragile your electricity cost is when the American stock market crashes, if you really think all of that is not being paid by the oil and gas Norway sells you have no idea how expensive is to maintain the infrastructure that produces hydroelectricity,
50% of Norway's export is gas an oil. Norway has a long shoreline and very few people, perfect conditions for harnessing sufficient energy from wind farms. There is no secret to how they succeeded that can be used elsewhere. Simple fact is that most people in the world cannot afford an electric car, and even if they did, there would be no infrastructure to charge them, not to mention that most energy that goes into those cars still come from fossil fuels. For now elecctric cars are greenwashing for the rich.
Even if EVs are 100% charged with coal, they still output less Co2 per KM than ICE powered vehicles.
@@markoshark4697 co2 is not a polluten, it is literally the gas of life aka plant food.
@@zedecoit's not either or. CO2 in the amounts we have, is the level plants of today have evolved to work with. many plants will grow slower if you increase CO2 concentrations, and if they go to a certain level it's literally lethal to animals. also food means energy carrier, and CO2 doesn't carry energy.
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and gas.
People are too preoccupied in the money. We invest it in the soverain wealth fund, we only use about 3% of the revenue on the national budget every year.
High taxes are the only thing that can make you switch to an electric car. But no sane person would buy such a car.
Exporting oils 😂
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So its all about taxing. I think BEVs should be able to stand by theirselves. No incentives needed. The manufactures should be in charge of making them better and cheaper than fossil cars and not the government!
they cant because lithium is hard mineral to work with why they outsource battery production to country like china so you dont see the environmental impact lithium has.
Battery factories are going up all over the world currently. That’s how import tariffs are avoided.
if you left it up to oil barons and car manufactures that rather wouldn't redo their entire manufacturing lines, we'd see no progress.
No big deal the total population of Norway is about the size of Minnesota. And hardly any roads that can have two cars pass.
You spent so much time taking “Off Subject”. Addressed Taxes-Yes, but driving distance was not addressed. You live in a small country with now where to drive. So short drives between charges are no problem. On long drives, it takes 5-10 minutes to re-charge (fill) my gas tank. How long would it take to re-charge an EV? How do I get re-charged if I’m between charging station???
20 minutes and there are plenty fast chargers. And if you put Norway over the US it would stretch from the Mexico gulf to Canada.
@@DahleJohannes 20 mins to charge a ev against 5 mins or less to fill a ice, that is no brainer who is faster, also you battery loses strength every time you plugin to recharge you will be extremely lucky to get a battery to last more then 8 years.
@@zedeco Yes, I agree
Tesla batteries have an eight year and 150 mile warranty. Many people charge at home so they don’t have to go to the gas station at all. They pull in the garage plug in their car and get cheap overnight rates. Then unplug their car and drive off.. that takes less than a minute
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Plus, if she was honest or smart, which she isn't, she would tell you how pollutant evs can be.
Owning an electric vehicle is the arena of the rich and wealthy. Try living in a terraced house where you have to park your vehicle on a street away from your house, what are people like that going to do?, run a charging cable down the street from their house? 😂. Only people who own private driveways attached to their homes can do that. Once a system is implemented that van charge cars as they drive along, only then will all the world be able to make the switch.
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@@240hzGamingbros actually intelligent. Solar is a scam. I sold it and almost all my clients got screwed.
Yes, charging a car on the side of the road, truly a problem that 21st century technology can't solve... No one has ever figured out how to run AC to parking meters, street lights or other side of the road accoutrements
That's the importance of a good policy.
If you have to run your cable, problem.
If the city is running the cables to meet demand, quite less of a problem.
So they run on coal? Or natural gas? That electricity is coming from somewhere.
Norway have a huge Hydroelectricity production, over 90% of their total consumption.
@@Mobay18 the subsides of evs come from oil and gas sells.
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they are all living in the clouds ... if Norway did not have OIL MONEY they would have 0 electric cars !!! no oil money no way a county can survive that kind of tax hit !!!
Most of our oil money goes to our soverain wealth fund, but of course nothing ever works on the US. I think we only use about 3% of the revenue to avoide inflation.
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This is a joke americans love their freedom i want the choice to buy whatever i want the subsodize electric cars because no one here wants them .they should just let the market decide what people want .to me i have toy electric cars and airplanes and thats all they will ever be are toys .i like to drive 500 miles and spend 5 minutes filling up and driving 500 more miles insted of 200 miles and 12 hrs charging and then going 200 miles 😂.
You must have a huge bladder if you can drive eight hours without stopping and then fill up your car in four minutes and drive another eight hours. Basically 16 hours straight. No one does that
you do realise that gas in the US is heavily subsidised right?... right? also it takes 20-25 minutes to charge a typical modern EV to 80% (the standard level to charge to)
Animal agriculture needs to be abolished. That’d be like the best thing to do for the environment and animals.
Ok Norwegian are first to mass adopt electric car may be they will the first to repent about their buyng
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