Too Much Fun on Rob Machado’s New “Too Fish”
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- Опубликовано: 21 авг 2024
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The Too Fish is Rob Machado’s most recent update to his retro fish design. Preserving the outline and rails of the original GO Fish, the Too Fish replaces the tricky channel on the original bottom contour with a more user-friendly single to double concave exiting between the fins, as well as a touch of vee in the tips of the tail. The result is a more user-friendly, maneuverable ride, but without sacrificing the classic retro fish flow.
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definitely right about the fragile tail block on the lft go fish, I blew 2 fin boxes (FCS and futures) on my toe side while pumping for speed....got the two fish now, equally as good if not more fun and the quality and strengh of the helium construction is undeniable! my 5 years old seaside just won't break haha
Would be cool to get an explanation between the helium tech vs the volcanic tech
Yes, I didn't know the difference between helium technology and volcanic technology either.
They are pretty much the same board in terms of how they feel and their weight.
After examining their construction, I noticed that the only difference lies in the materials used for the last two layers of the deck and the bottom layer. The deck is made of double 4 oz Balsalt, while the bottom layer is a single 4 oz. This design is supposed to make the board stronger.
However, as you may or may not know, the helium construction is exceptionally strong.
I've spoken to people who weigh around 220 pounds and have been using helium boards for a year without noticing any significant damage or dings.
- David
@@hawaiiansouthshore thanks for the info..
Volcanic is a little heavier than the regular heliums.
@@benjaminm5232 oh interesting in my arms I feel pretty much the same. What's the difference in weight?
@@hawaiiansouthshore Not enough to make a difference in the water, but it's a touch heavier.
Nice! Would you explain why the Machado Sunday became twin fin only for FireWire fans?
Hahahaha
I'm not sure, that would be a question for FireWire.
However, I have spoken to several people who have tried both the 2+1 setup and the new twin fin setup.
They've mentioned that the new twin fin setup seems to have a greater sense of drive and smoother turns.
It's possible that FW made adjustments to the side fins to optimize the performance of the twin fin setup.
Maybe because more people are enjoying riding it as a twin fin so from feedback they made this decision...??
I just got a email from FireWire. They said Rob felt it works better as a twin. They didn’t mention about any other changes,
@@hawaiiansouthshore Thanks for reply. Maybe ask the FW guy next time? He seems always have stories about FW board development.
@@charleshawk6668 NO worries will do - David
I don’t understand the wood frame thing. Wood is visible on the tail. Is he saying there’s wood incorporated elsewhere? The descriptions are kinda thin. Show us some diagrams or CFD or cross sections. Would be helpful
Yes, the wood on this board and all the helium goes all the way around the board.
So, the nose has a wooden nose block, and then the wood runs along the rails and to the tail.
If you pause the video at 1:10, you can see a faint wood under the glass.
If you're looking for more detailed information on the materials used in the helium construction, you can check out this link: www.firewiresurfboards.com/pages/helium-tech
It provides a drawing that shows all the materials incorporated in the helium construction.
- David
Doesn't putting fins further from the tail make it more loose?
Yes I believe so.
Im not sure what they did but it seems to make the board smoother.
Maybe changed the toe? but not sure.
Chuy the man
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i weigh around 198 lbs - and am riding the 33.8L dominator 2, and the 34.2l mashup. wondering if the 5'6'@ 33.2l will be fine... never rode a board that small @ 5'6..the 34.9 @ 5'7 seems a little large.
It all come down to preference.
The construction is the same as the mash up, its the helium construction.
I give you a lot of credit most guys at your weight are riding a bit more volume. .
Man I really don't know what to tell you about that.. sorry - David
@@hawaiiansouthshore all good man lol. 45 years strong as well :) i will just have to check one out in person and give it the old feel up lol
@@SlickWillie YES gotta feel it up for sure...hahahaha 🤣
@@SlickWillie Just to let you know we didnt get the boards in yet..its on it;s way here...hopefully in the next few days. Check out out IG and as soon as it lands we'll post it. - David
Im 5'10 sittin at 193lbs, so were pretty close. I went to my local shop and felt the 5'7 and 5'5 TOO FISH. Personally i felt 5'5 was too short and 5'7 was too tall. My daily driver is a short board at 30L and im probably going with a 5'6 TOO FISH. Hope that helps. I also held it side by side with the Seaside and they are identical in "feel".
How much these cost?
Aloha! The cost is $920 + shipping you can also check it out here www.hawaiiansouthshore.com/collections/firewire-too-fish-hawaii
If someone came in at 5’10 200 and was looking for the right ballpark fit on size…standard intermediate skill, what direction dims would you point them towards?
First I would ask that person a few more questions.
What are currently riding now is it a Shortboard, funboard or longboard?
What are the dims and volume of that board.
Also ask if they what type of waves they want to ride the Too Fish on, Beach Break, Point Break or Reef Break.
Then find out if how often they surf.
If they are on the mainland do they plan on surfing durning the winter and if so what mm wetsuit do they usually wear.
- David
@@hawaiiansouthshore
Current board: Thread Boom Box 2 Pro (hybrid outline, double wing round tail) 5’10” 21 2 9/16 34L
Surfing exclusively beach breaks like Huntington Beach pier
Surf 2-5 times per week and usually wear a 3/2
@@SA1NTZZZ What is your height and weight?
@@hawaiiansouthshore 5’10 200
@@SA1NTZZZ oh shoot you told me that in the beginning...sorry. I would recommend the 5'8 35.5L. from talking to few people that I really wrote this board they said it's super fast it goes on Rell really well so with that little extra volume you'll be able to mix sections that you never have before and you'll be able to beat the crowd. And I'm sure specially in Huntington. There's tons of people out there.
Go Fish 2.0 without the channel???
Yes with more of a shortboard bottom on the fish.
how would you compare this to the seaside? these are almost same dims. thanks
To board a totally different. The Tails and the concave is noticeably different.
@@hawaiiansouthshore I have both boards, I'd say the seaside is better to surf in the pocket, go vertical and handles size better. The go fish is faster and more loose, super fun in weaker conditions although I still use it when the waves are good :) both amazing boards, seaside better as a one board quiver
@@valentinblanot9099 Right on Thanks for the info! - David
That’s a copy from Chris Christenson Fish.
oh interesting , we're actually just started working with Christenson.
He's shaping a few boards for us.
Pretty excited to get some hand shaped boards. -David
I have both. They’re a similar outline, but there are some big differences. Rails are different, and the concave in the too fish is wayyy deeper and the Vee at the tail is more pronounced
I would like one of everything I can see 😳😳🤣🤣🤣🤣💖💖🦦🦦☯️☯️