Accessible parking permits are 'golden ticket' for cheats
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- Опубликовано: 1 ноя 2017
- The vast majority of the approximately 500,000 accessible permits issued to Toronto-area residents are used properly. But investigators believe about 50,000 are used illegally by friends and relatives of the actual permit holders.
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I’ve been disabled for 30 years, I’ll gladly give anyone my disability if they’d like to use my handicapped placard.
Took away his license plate and tag
Sorry to hear that. These people don’t care. In the back of their minds they’re probably thinking, well you shouldn’t be disabled. I’m no angel, and am quite obese. However, I’ve never parked in a handicapped spot because I’m not handicapped. Well not so far.
I worked at the Las Vegas state mental hospital (Rawson Neal) and we had about 10 handicapped spaces near the main entrance. 5 days a week, all 10 were occupied by department supervisor's cars, each with those blue plastic permits on the rear-view mirror. None had the actual disabled plates. I was a mail courier there, and not one of these people was disabled. But all 10 were proud that "Dr. _______ (various dr.'s on staff) got me this pass as a favor." So basically legitimately handicapped patients were SOL, 24/7. Bravo, uppity union govt supervisors
GOOD!! People should be ashamed of using passes that they don't need. They should be grateful that they don't have a disability and that their bodies work well enough to walk a distance! Leave the spots for people who need them!!
He lets his MOM WALK while he parks close to his job. WHAT A GUY!!!!
Self entitled little children. "He's taking it away permanently". Good!!!
Great job! These goons need to pay huge fines and all permits seized. Great policing. Great report. Bless the handicap that truly need help
Whoa, what were you like the charity president. Mr. president, LOL.
Wow. It looks like they won't understand until they become disabled! 🤦🏻♂️
sennsir_ i think they already are........
Maybe instead of giving them a ticket sending them to Jail and Limiting their Access. Put them in a Chair and Lock their Arms & Legs so they can't get up but make them have to do everything from a chair so they will really see what it is like with limited mobility. They would have to live life in a wheelchair not for one or two day's but at least 2-4 weeks or so. They will get a mark on their record stating that they missuses a ADA Parking Placard & may have to go through more steps to acquire one for themselves if they need one in the future. Maybe this will mean their license would be suspended for a period of time until they have had to take Public Transportation to show them that ti is not cool to take the right of someone who really is in need for the parking spot.
She has her disabled spot, those people weren't using disabled spaces. That segment is entirely misused here.
People have no right to abuse passes! It only feeds the judgement about others who appear physically ok and have a pass such as myself. I'm 20 and have Multiple Sclerosis, so the pass helps me only on days Im simply too fatigued and weak. The stares and dirty looks I get are unreal. It's not like I enjoy parking there. 😕 I hope people gain some common sense and respect to let people park in handicap when they truly need to. They should be thankful they can walk the distance!
Your pass is in your name. So you are quite entitled to use it. I use a cane, because my balance is off and I am ALWAYS fatigued. If it helps, understand that YOU are entitled to use a stick as well, even on days when you feel a little stronger.
I'm 30 and recently diagnosed with FMS. Just got my parking permit and nervous to use it as I hear horrible stories of young healthy looking people getting harassed for not looking sick enough to use the spot. How do you deal with it?
Vanessa Pardo Theres honestly not much to do besides ignore the reactions and accept they are simply ignorant to the situation. I refuse to feel guilty about needing to park in handicap spots. It took me awhile to accept it and shrug it off.
Thanks, just gonna have to keep building a thick skin I guess.
Common sense dictates if you look young and not in a wheel chair, you are not disable. So no you can't always use common sense man. But you are not driving a sport car right ?
Thank you John Lancaster of CBC Toronto, for pointing out the rampant abuse of disabled parking permits. I hope that more Toronto Parking Authority officers, like their San Francisco counterparts, confiscate such permits if such permits are being misused. You and KRON4 News's Stanley Roberts (tvman1981) are doing a great service to law-abiding citizens of Toronto and San Fran, respectively.
I see this abuse all of the time, you're wasting your time with these people because they have no morality and they are bordering on being sociopaths.
LOL
Is it wrong? Yes. Are they sociopaths? Not likely.
It's the no conscience part, and taking advantage of handicapped people. What would you call that? This isn't like cutting in line.
Facts!
D Jaquith Maybe the ones who don’t get it are the ones who do it. I agree with you 100%. We live in a world where as long as someone thinks they can get away with something, they’ll do it without a second thought. The Entitlement Mentality. 😔
I hate it when people abuse the system! Before my mother-in-law passed away she had an accessible parking permit. If I was driving her I would drop her off at the entrance of a building then drive to a parking space further away so that someone that actually needed the space could use it. She would sometimes get frustrated with me because she had to wait for me while I parked further away instead of using her permit to park close, but I would always just shrug my shoulders and tell her I need the exercise.
I was at a bank once, and this guy in a convertable sports car comes zooming up, parks in the handicap spot, the guy jumps out and runs into the bank. on his car was a handicap sticker
zed zardoz I see this a lot with older people I’m talking around 50. Sorry but if you can get into a sports car or a huge Ute without being injured I fail to see how you can park in the space 1 meter away from the disabled park. Instead I have to get the wheelchair out of my car, walk my husband with CP to the back of the car without damaging the next car to put him into the chair. Luckily he can walk to some degree but this is not ideal especially when it’s raining. Makes me so angry.
The first offence should cost a 1K fine and confiscation of the permit. Second offence 5K and car confiscated and crushed. End of !
Dont crush, sell or donate proceeds to handicapped organizations
I’m with the lady with MS. I have MS. Sometimes I have all I can do to walk the cart into the store.
1:34 We’ve also had many instances where
*THE PERMIT HOLDER IS DECEASED*
The way he said that cracked me up😂
remember though you cannot always see the reason for the permit. My boyfriend has one because he has permanent nerve damage i his back. We are yelled at all the time for using the necessary permit.
get a cane and use that when ya walk out
If he's running around, lifting shopping in/out, etc then it's a cause for concern. 'Seeing' and seeing are two different things. There are criteria for accessible permits in Ontario. It's about MOBILITY. So if he's walking the 300m in 10 minutes or less without pain and/or use of a mobility device then there is a problem.Before I get some criticism - which I'm ignoring btw - I've had a permit in Ontario since 2003 so F-OFF.
canadaingirrl - then does your boyfriend have a doctors note with him to prove he needs the plaque?
Po Panda : And I suppose you think everyone needs to carry their birth certificate and be required to show it to every yayhoo like you who demands to see it. You should live in USA and demand to personally see Obama’s birth certificate. You’re a crazy that would fit right in.
You have to provide a doctor’s statement before the placard is issued. Think about that!
@@PO-PANDA He doesn't need a doctor's note. His placard is for his use, period. People can stare all they want. And police can ask him. He just shows the police that the placard is his and goes about his business.
also family parking in a handicap spot to pick up the handicap family member is okay. That person will be getting in the car and will need that extra space for the wheelchair and/or being able to get to the car without physical harm.
Thank you for this report! I am handicapped
This is common practice by parking officers, if they see a accessible parking permit they just ignore it no matter how illegal the person is parking. You can see it around Mount Sinai hospital, UHN hospitals, the staff use their relatives permits and park on the street in a no parking zone all day. Even if you complain that they blocking traffic no one from the city will do anything.
Some of them may be legit but it’s definitely an issue. Remember many of those hospitals are there for many hours for treatment and when I worked at UHN I had a supervisor who brought their parent for dialysis several days a week, and to be able to drop them off and assist them they used the pass, but not for work.
I completely agree that using handicap spaces when able bodied is illegal and just flat out wrong. I myself am a wheelchair user and must have the space on the side to get into it. Having said that, there are people with invisible disabilities. Like heart conditions that make it hard to walk far, neurological conditions that causes difficulty walking, chronic pain, seizures, just to name a few. So if anyone reads this comment just know to not judge a book by its cover. If you see someone who looks healthy using a spot, do not leave nasty notes or confront them about it. They might be going through a struggle you cannot see. Of course if they don't have a tag at all, that is a different story. But if they have a tag, they obviously went through a doctor and DMV to legally obtain it, so it's legitimate. Videos "outing" people for faking only perpetuate the stereotype that all disabilities are visible. Therefore, encouraging discrimination against the same people you are trying to protect.
Mary if only all wheelchairs users were like you . Unfortunately , not all of them are.
If all the fines were $5,000.00, this would stop much sooner.
I'm disabled and that's the first time I ever heard that I could park for free on some Toronto streets as long as I have my permit. I wonder if it's the same for Mississauga. It really gets me when people misuse these passes or just park in designated spots because they think they can
I notice & working in retail also, people who are lying instantly holler the loudest!
If you want to deter people from parking in handicaped spaces illeagally
I suggest you impound their car for a week. That would slow it down
more so than just a fine.
I see this all the time at Costco and when l got my licence l knew what a parking spot looks like and at Costco they park in fire routes beside loading dock and l called parking control and they said only Costco can call
l seen it in Mississauga and Toronto Costcos
l was down at the falls and the parking guy saw me putting money in metor. and saw a handy cap sticker on my dash tolded me l don't have to pay but l was raised by my mom and 2 sisters to be truthful and l said it was my mom's and he was shocked that l was so truthful
parking control should drive threw Costcos plazes and malls because l have seen people parking in spots where it says mother and child and they are by them selfs
Hows this for an idea, if they want to park in disabled parking then make those violators handicapped.
I am an amputee and I have a parking permit, so legally I am able to park in the blue zone. I usually don't because most of the time I do not need it.
I do use it to park at metered parking for free, as well as time limit parking (thou I usually don't exceed the time limit).
The only time I ever park in the blue is if, for some reason I can't wear my leg (I can drive an automatic with one foot) or if my leg is especially painful.
Looking at me walking around, you wouldn't know I'm an amputee unless I'm wearing shorts. I have a slight limp, but not much. I've been challenged on it, but it's easy to show people my leg and they usually drop it. I don't mind that, so long as the person isn't overly rude.
I feel the same way about cheaters of this system, because there are people who really do need those spaces.
If you want to challenge someone you think is creating, don't just assume they are cheating. Just be polite and remember, you aren't parking enforcement. It's not your job to call these people out, besides, they might have a disability you can't readily see.
They shouldn't argue with this fool that think he's right. Tomorrow give him a ticket, and tow the car.
Happy to see this. As the owner of my own pass I am very clear with people that once they drop me off they can't use it. In areas where it is difficult or expensive to find parking the streets are lined with disability parking passes. I assure you that other than near medical facilities there shouldn't be a street full of disability passes. Trust me all of us that have the passes would gladly pay for parking if it could mean good health!
Charge them 5000 dollars
They CAN use it if they are parking and then coming it to stay with you. Absolutely they can. Not for anything else.
@@stratfordbaby no they can’t use it if they are parking to come visit you at least in Ontario Canada. They can use it if you are in the car and parking the car after driving you around. They can use the disability pass if they are driving you around but if they are visiting you as a disabled person they don’t qualify. The whole point of the pass is to be able to be able to park closer to an entrance when you have the disable person with you. Also allows people to save a little money on parking because most disabled people don’t have the option to ride their bike, walk long distances, use public transportation specifically for disabled people which can involve very long wait times and is often not dependable, etc. As soon as a side led person is no longer in the car it returns to a normal vehicle. The one exception would be if someone was waiting in their car to pick-up a disabled person but most would not wait in the disabled spot if there was only one spot left. If the police came by they can verify that you are actually waiting fir the disabled person and want to see that they are actually being picked up.
In Massachusetts, your license photo is on the placard. It comes with a plastic sleeve for privacy but must be shown to law enforcement upon request.
Great job guys, I have a recommendation.
This morning 7 pedestrians were hit by cars in Toronto, I could have been number 8 and my kids, #9 and 10. It's time to point your cameras at pedestrian crosswalks, there you'll find monsters / thugs pretending to be drivers.
(It's _still a big question_ whether pedestrians, or cyclists are worse for impeding traffic. :))
the abuse has always been there, the cops are finally doing something about it now
that bad
good job you guys making sure
I am eligible for a handicap pass but I need to walk as much as I can to keep what little mobility I do have.I don't understand how anyone could take a handicap space when some people really do need it.
People think they are entitled to everything
Hefty fines and start towing cars and this problem goes away.
I always always flatten all four tires on cars without the handicap sticker that'll never change I even key the s*** out of them
Forget the tickets, tow that car immediately
I see these in car windows all the time in my Area. People driving luxury cars with accessible parking passes and Its so common Ive noticed it. I just feel sorry for people like my late father who used a cane and had problems walking and really needed those parking spaces.
What does the fact that one drives a luxury car have to do with their need for a handicapped parking placard?
You appear to covet the wealth of others. Are disabilities that selective?
Some jerk parked in a handicap spot, so this woman in a wheelchair had to wheel up this incline, and half way up her batteries gave up, and she rolled backwards into the wall. Taken her to
St. Elizabeth's.
My heros! Keep going.
Also a lot in BC
Lmao if I was picking up someone up using a placard, I wouldn't get that confrontational.
Question
Why People buy car (only 1or2 perosn to ride) when they have a automatic scooter available. Doesn't it take less space and give more fuel efficiency.
I think the best thing to do start announcing on the news. Explain the law and how the law works when it comes to these permits. If you're caught abusing a parking permit or handicap parking that there will be a $2000 charge.
They should impound the car, fine ,
And anything else they can get these rude people with.
How do I get my city to start doing this?
I live in fl. I have a disabled parking permit. I only use it when absolutely necessary. I make my driver drop me off at the door at the store. And they park in a reg spot.
Impound the car as well as a hefty ticket and community service .
I love this they need to do this more often
A friend and I have once used disabled parking space without a permit (Blue Badge in UK), but we checked with policeman, he gave us permission because car was disabled 🙃 radiator overheated on extremely busy road.
That fella with the SUV has a sense of entitlement!
Same thing is happening over in the West Coast, if only they can be exposed to the public
I love these videos!
"You shouldn't even be pointing that out" lol
Daaam, $5000, I still think it should be higher.
I have license plates that are issued by my state as special handicap tags, but I still have to operate it
They never care and never admit they are wrong. Disgusting
first guy is not wrong. As long as his mom is also riding with him every day he can park there.
Not only should they pull the permit, they should pull the offenders drivers licence for a month minimum!!!!!!!!
I won’t even use the disabled parks if my disabled hubby isn’t in the car with me or if he isn’t leaving. Others need it while I don’t sometimes. It’s not about legality or technicality it’s about being a considerate human being. I get so frustrated when I see older people getting in/out of a huge Ute who apparently need the parking space yet I have to struggle to get my husband into a wheelchair in a tiny space, I’ve even had nasty looks while trying to do so. Just awful!
What is name of couple outside eaton mall
I get talked to by a lot of people because I don't have a "visible handicap" but I do have the requirements to get a placard and I give up a spot for someone that is in worse shape then myself . I'd gladly give up my handicap situation ,but jerk offs that abuse handicap placards should be ashamed of them selfs and need to go with a handicap person on his/her day to see how hard it is for them ,then just maybe they will understand
they understand being towed!
Clearly, the authorities need to get a lot more strict about this shameful abuse. Fines should be doubled and permits confiscated that are expired, fraudulent, or “borrowed” from a friend or family member.
I have sciatica pain and it difficulty to walk for long distance and long time but I don't have those disable permits since I don't see a need for a it cause I know physical activity is helping me more then anything. I learned from my doctor more I strengthen my core the less sciatica pain I will get. Honestly I dislike when people misuse the disable permits it prevent some one who need the spot from using it vs the guy who is to lazy to park somewhere else and too cheap!
So they are claiming he's abusing the permit and parking the car without the permit holder, yet they only show footage of someone visiting the car and picking up the car... no footage of the guy actually parking using the permit...
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Quite true, though most were in violation.
Abuse here is at shopping centers, drop off permit holder at door to store, then young son or grandson parks in an accessible spot, and sits there ubtil shecis done and he drives back to door to get her. There is no need to use accessuble spot for well bodied driver if he never leaves the car, he can sit way back in the lot until his "mom "calls she is ready for pickup. So these types and there are alot block accessible parkingvfor those of us whondrive ourselves and park and have to get into the store with cane, walker or wheelchair. So frustrating.
I liked the last one. We,ll just get another one. Some people have no shame. Maybe a $5000 fine and 24 hrs in jail
That's so sad that the badge may now be taken away from all those people whom actually did need it.
They may not have even been aware it was being used without them there 🙁
If you are 100% sure ... just damage the car.
Great job guys, keep busting these guys. Thumbs up
I really hope this doesn't spark the inner police on people so they go attacking anyone with a permit that looks "young and healthy". Please always have in mind there are invisible disabilities and it happens to anyone at any age.
Treat the cars like they are in a tow away zone and tow them to a impound yard.Hit the frequent violators with ever increasing fines and don't plea bargain with them.
I wish we had those officers in the UK here they just don't care
wish they were this proactive in Australia!!
If someone has a legitimate placard, they park in a handicap spot, but the person it is issued to says in the care. Is this legal?
the Police shouldn't even argue with them AT ALL .... take the placard, let THEM argue with the Judge.
Wisconsin I have card and mandatory paperwork to go with it. Must show papers if cop requests. This along with pictures drivers license proves mine and need.
People watching this video: Please don't harass people you suspect of being a "parking cheater". Lots of people have disabilities that are hard to see, and are harassed by people claiming they're not disabled. If you think someone is a cheat, just call the cops. Don't interfere yourself.
agreed! not everyone who is disabled uses a wheelchair!!!
This is so true. I've seen somebody get mad at my dad for parking in a accessible parking spot. Sure at a glance he looks fine but in reality? Both knees replaced, part of his hip replaced and has issues with his spine, hell just a few days ago his legs gave out on him while he was pushing himself too hard. At a glance though you'd never know the issues he has.
Phil Dog Exactly, my dad had a handicap placard and needs a cane to walk long distances, but doesn't like to use his cane because he says it makes him "feel old"
Phil Dog, You would really call the cops over a parking spot? Someone else could be calling them because their house is being broken into and your gonna waste their time over a parking spot?
Phil Dog. The permit belongs to only one person. If that person is not present than a permit used for free parking is illegal. The paper given with that blue window tag will have the disabled persons name and adress printed on it.
Ottawa has a two hour limit with a permit.
I see this where I work all the time !! there also needs to be a official permit system for service animals !!!
OK...I understand the comments about invisible disabilities. I have a permit in Toronto and I have severe Arthritis in all my extremities. When I was still working, I used to use disabled parking. However, there were these 2 big black Dodge Trucks that often took up the only 2 spaces. The trucks were identical and the boxes on the trucks were full of tools. After seeing these trucks for weeks on end parking in the spots, I managed to catch them pull up one day. These 2 big burly workmen, got out of the trucks, went to the back and pulled out several tool boxes and a ladder and proceeded to carry them down the entire block to their work site. I complained 4 or 5 times to the city complaint line and NO ONE ever contacted me and the trucks continued to park in disabled spots for months. I was finally told by an anonymous city employee that the city really doesn't give a damn...
That's the way it is in Wisconsin particularly if it is in a parking lot. They say it's up to the business.
Start putting in jail Macon do 8 weekends 1500 hours of community service plus I fine there is a nationwide law and it's called the person Disabilities Act
The fine is too low considering how much money they have stolen from the public and government. Should be in millions to 10’s of millions, making sure no one would be doing that again.
Tony Ka yes the fine should be tailored to their wealth, their car should be towed and impounded until the pay a fine of 20% of the cars book value, second offence car crushed.
What is wrong with you. The government and the system are bigger thieves, every time. Be serious.
I have an issue with this video. the handicapped person could be in the said building.
People that are disabled don’t have to be in the car. I have a handicap placard and I’m allowed to get out and take my walker and go to the store while whoever sits in the handicap spot. What am I supposed to just never get out of the car? That’s ridiculous.
If you would know how hard it has become to get a permit. Just because of the abuse. I’m totally immobile and couldn’t live a normal life without the permit. (And parking places)
fine them heavily and tow the car
They need to not only take the permit away, give them the maximum fine, and tow their car
disgraceful as somebody who's physically disabled I can't even begin to tell you how upset this makes me
Fines should start at $1000.00 and a 30day license suspension.
Is it even safe for handicapped people to be driving?
Just write the ticket if officers don't see the handicap person with the driver, period.
It piss me off to see "cars" parking in a "Van Accessible" parking spot...
Why don't they change the system, so that the handicap marker has a chip in it that can be controlled by a parking guard with a reading tool?
My roommate and I aren't in wheelchairs, but we both have a legal right to use these permits. My roommate drives, I don't. BOTH of our permits are in the car, in plain sight. Any police officer seeing us wobble up, me with my cane, she with her walker, would know. We have driven away from stores that have no available parking near the doors. We KNOW that people abuse the passes. We see perfectly fine people get out of these cars or stroll back. Yes, they may have a relative that they drive to and from doctor's appointments or to go shopping. But that doesn't mean that they should get carte blanche to have free parking all the time, or the right to the most accessible spots. Take the permits away, and ticket them.
Lol the last guy in the Rav4.
you should go to hospitals and get them there,we had to park in the back corner and my mom got a wheelchair for me and I was in so much pain and not one person in there should be in those spots in a hospital lot for the enjoyed
Fine of 300.00 to 5,000.....that should slow down abuses
$1000 minimum fine plus towing for first offence is where I'd start with these losers.