iPad pro 2021 for Nomad Sculpting - Apple give us RAM Back
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- Опубликовано: 26 авг 2024
- iPad pro 2021 for Nomad Sculpting - Apple give us RAM Back
A few months ago I did a video all about how the new iPad 2021 wasn’t a good upgrade for iPad 2020 owners.
If you had 6GB RAM in the older one and then bought the 16GB iPad 2020 you would expect to see huge performance increases. And we did! In read and write speeds, rendering etc.
But prior to the recent release of iOS 15, an app could only use 5GB of the system RAM max. That meant we would have been wasting more than half of the available RAM.
This video gives me a chance to talk about what things are like today with iOS15, Nomad 1.61 and the amazing iPad Pro 2021. The clue was in the ‘amazing’ bit! It’s a corker!
But there are still issues.
Watch the video to find out.
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So the creature I’m using here was done to test Nomad 1.61 with iOS 15 and the new ram possibilities. But, it was also for a tutorial that will appear in next months 3DWorld magazine. I’ve written for the magazine for almost 20 years now and I honestly never thought I’d be doing a high end 3D tutorial on a mobile device. How the world has moved on!
Has anyone got an M1 ipad and wants to share their sculpting experiences? I’m dying to hear what other people think.
I use Zbrush for School but I honestly prefer Nomad a lot of the time I can work much faster and more intuitively. Once I get better I'll probably start in Nomad then export to zbrush. But for now I'm just able to enjoy learning shape luangage without frustrating controls or interface.
Will it be in the Issue 280?
I love it so far. I’ve been using Blender for a couple years and I’m using Nomad to clean up my custom characters. It’s a slight learning curve with the Nomad software, but understanding the terminology makes it easy to understand the tool system. I would love to see all the tech reviewers address all the nonsensical complaining they did about the M1, but it’s never going to happen. The M1 is changing multiple industries and it’s crickets from the ‘review community.’ Nothing but 6 month old videos of all of them crying about non-utilization of power. Well, Procreate is importing full on 3d scenes for painting, and Nomad and Forger are rendering in 4K. On a tablet. Seems like the reviewers shouldn’t be reviewing products that they don’t know how to use.
Okay but let's take a moment to appreciate how awesome that Alien sculpt is.
Aweee thanks buddy! I really enjoyed that one. There’s a full tutorial and time lapse going Into 3DWorld Magazine issue 282 that’s out next month I think.
Best thing ever I was intending on my goal of 3D modelling to model alien and also always wanted it to be my first model if possible and inspired me to start and then I see this this is just everything I aspire to be and more you’re too good please could you do a tutorial course of this?!?!?
It’s literally not that good
I just got the iPad 12.9 6th gen 256gb with Cellular
It has the M2 chip, 8gb of Ram, 8core CPU, and 10core GPU.
I can run over 40+ million verts with lighting and it is still running smoothly.
It blows my mind that it has that much power and it's only a 256gb model.
I really wish blender would have an iPad app. Can you imagine? Build hardsurface in shapr, sculpt in nomad, assemble scene and render in blender.
Just discovered this app and this channel, cant wait to binge all your video tutorials and implement Nomad to my concepts!
Ok, so we can access more of that lovely ram on the higher end iPads! But not all of it it seems….
Great review/update, Glen - this model is DOPE!
Cheers Steve. I enjoyed this one as you can tell lol
I recently bought the 2021 1gb version so I would have no RAM limits, while I am learning and don't need all of that memory but planning for the future. Thanks for the video, Glen!
Be good to know if the latest versions of iPadOS and Nomad where ther limits are more recently, if you could
Great video! I would love to see the workflow of using Nomad Sculpt along with Blender and Z brush.
Very helpful. Thank you!
It's a pleasure.
It still works on my 2017 IPad Pro and I’ve noticed some RAM changes and improvements.
I have an iPad Pro 2017, 3g of ram if I am correct. I can do pretty great things on nomad already. It can be a little slow when I post process but when I am working without light setup or post process, it’s very good.
Yep it’s still a great machine. I work on my iPhone sometimes. These videos are definitely more for power users who might be needing this sort of power for work. I just love letting everyone know what’s possible. The real-time copes on any device.
A very informative video, thank you! And that model is looking sick 👀✨
Thanks! I really enjoyed this one. I did it to test the machine and it’s also a tutorials in next months 3Dworld magazine.
Thank you for all the great videos! I have two questions in this show: 1) how do you set up the focus? I see the beautiful DOF(depth of field) in real time. 2) how do you switch on/off the screen buttons? Again, enjoy watching your Videos!
nomad is easily one of the best tools i've gotten my hands on this year
Thank you for this update!!!
No worries. This update makes me really happy I got the M1 iPad now. Really makes a difference.
Hi, Armorpaint is out for ipad! Do you plan on making a video on that please? Thanks :)
Working on it with a buddy right now
I wonder how much vertices can ipad pro M4 can handle.. still cant decide yet ipad M4 or galaxy tab 9🙄
Thank you for the great videos! In this one, how do you set up the focus? I see the beautiful DOF(depth of field) effect in real time; 2) how do you turn the screen buttons on/off? Again, enjoy watching your shows!
Is there a way to reduce lag?
Between the 8GB and 16GB models, do you feel like the extra memory on the 16GB would make a big difference or that it's still kinda negligible even after the update?
Not worth it at all for Nomad. I have the 16 2021 and I can get 35 million poly sculpt but only use 6 gig of the available 12 ( even though it has 16GB the OS won’t allow over 12). If I do go over 35mill it crashes without ever using more than 6. I haven’t stress tested an 8GB for long but without using Geekbench I can’t tell the difference. Can’t really say about other apps though.
He’s not a developer that’s for sure, or he just acting (most YTrs are). Anyway it’s on Nomad not Apple, so get the 16Gb because XR will be available to consumer’s very soon and everyone will be in a panic mode to learn how to develop for XR, the tools, and definitely the hardware, and all I can tell you now is 16Gb for a XR developer is maybe the minimum probably more like 32, but definitely 40-320Gb of Ram will be the new normal (not for consumer’s this year 22 though) mobile + XR glasses this year, starting with a Verizon 5G U+ package lol or here in US Samsung flagship paired with n-real light glasses 👓. Should be any day now, maybe Dec. 3rd?
@@cedricvillani8502 This video is about Nomad Sculpt. The question was relating to Nomad Sculpt. My reply is about Nomad Sculpt. I am not a developer nor trying to be one. Thank you for you ‘non Nomad Sculpt’ information as it’s very informative.
@@SouthernGFX Well perhaps you should talk about nomad sculpt and not Apple ram lol
@@cedricvillani8502 I stand by my comments in the video and here in the comments and it was an apple issue which has now been resolved when they released iOS15.
Until iOS15 developers could only give 5GB of RAM to an individual program. Therefore having a 16GB iPad meant that Nomad was only able to see and use 5GB. When iOS15 went into beta we saw that they allowed developers to give apps access upto 12GB of the available RAM.
This really matters for digital sculptors because apps like Nomad and Forger rely heavily on the RAM and crash once they hit the polygon count ceiling. The point I am making in these comments is VERY relevant to people like Nayelianne because there are no material benefits to having 16GB of RAM if it isn't being used. For example, if you are sculpting and make a model over 35 millions polygons the program can often crash. If you watch your RAM usage you would see that it will only be using 6GB of the 'allowed' 12 from the total of 16GB in the device.
If you are on a budget and you wish to primarily use an iPad as a professional sculpting device then there is no benefit to having the extra RAM.
That's my point and it is fact based. Beyond the use of Nomad Sculpt and for XR I agree with you on most points. I personally like the 16GB model for a wide range of other apps that do use more of the RAM such as Lumafusion.
I love debating topics of this nature.
Wow. Found a new channel to watch! I would love to upgrade my 2020 to a new one, but I think my 2014 level MacBook Pro might need a replacement first. 😂😂 I can't believe I am only just recently hearing about Nomad Sculpt.
Was thinking about an iPad, sticking with the Pixel slate and the android app for now. Thanks for the overview. 👍
Is the 16gb only using 6gb for one model in the scene? What happens if you add a new model and divide it? Is it still struggling to go above 6gb?
I usually work with a lot of objects in the scene.
Glen, great vid as always! I’m thinking of upgrading to the new iPad Pro , I’m still using the 2018 model.🤣
Any changes since you posted this, a friend might buy my 10.5 inch. So im looking into the current model. Not sure if i should get the larger screen, any secret performance differences in screen size?
Very cool
Thank you
I’ve got an 8 gig M1, and Nomad’s showing 6 gigs available.
I hope the 8gb will work good with it I don't make money from one right now so paying another 800 for 8 more gb ram and 900gb HD is wat too damn much in my opinion it should t even cost that much
I think u have no Idea how much of a Talent u are.
I got the Nomad App for quiet a fiew days and i Have still a hard Time by sculpting a Orange with teeth.
...and Your Alien sculpt looks unbeliveable Real!!
So i will switch from my 2018 Ipad pro to a 2020 or 2021 M1 Version...u think 2020 i pad is enough or is the 2021 M1 a MUST HAVE if i want the same build like yours(hopefully in some years)!!
Greetings from Munich
Thanks for your kind words. The m1 is a fantastic upgrade but the 2020 is still an amazing machine. It depends on your budget and how many other programs you want to use as well. You don’t need the 16 gig M1 if you only really want to use Nomad. The lower RAM version is fine
I'm curious as to how much memory is required to store the above design file
on a iPad Pro.
I just decided to purchase a "M2" iPad Pro with 1TB memory, which will give
me 16Gb of ram. I would like to go with less memory, but I don't want to give
up the 16Gb of ram, which will happen if go with the 8Gb of ram version.
I have an iPad pro 2017 10.5" would nomad sculpt work well on this older model? I'm very tempted to buy this, although I realize my model will have limitations
my ipad pro 8 gb m1 crash next divide after 6 mil polygon divide
Nice, would be great to know how much of a difference each gb makes regarding poly count.
I’ll keep testing and recoding my findings. Crashing is quite predictable once you hit certain poly counts.
@@SouthernGFX do you think it's something that can be fixed by the dev? Are you in the discord channel from nomad? The dev usually replies there and it seams like a very nice guy
outside of 3D world magazine - do you sell the course to create this monster, on your site that has the T-Rex and all the other nomad courses? I would love to create this or something similar. I think 3D world magazine is subscription based only? I would rather buy this tutorial outright if they sell it?
Hey! So you could create 3D models on the iPad 2020 with 6gb ram ? I’m thinking about buying one as a beginner
Yep it’s a great machine. My backup is that model and it still works well.
I have questions, I’m new!
1) How do you save the actual 3D model? Not 2d. When I save it, it saves it as a picture not a rotation turnable 3D object.
2) how do I start a new project without getting rid of the current project I’m working on? I so badly wanna start a new project but I’m not done with the current one I’m working on but it says when I press “new” it says “create new scene? You will lose unsaved changes”. I’ve saved it to everything possible but how do I know it’s saved to the apps portfolio so I can come to it? The saved project I have still comes out as 2D and not 3D where you can move it around and see different angles
From the Project menu choose ‘save’ to save a Nomad project or ‘export’ and choose the 3D format you want
To add things to an existing scene go to Project again and use add-to-scene for other Nomad models or Import add to scene for anything else
I have a full beginners course if you’ve been through all the basic ones on RUclips.
@@SouthernGFX thank you!!!!!!!!!!!
@@GoldLeafPress take your time learning it. It gets easier very quickly.
I have the 2021 12.9 ipad pro with 8gb ram. Can that one handle high polygons too? Cuz it is the same as the 16gb…it just has 8gb more but everything else is same, the m1 processor , etc etc.
I hope the developers take advantage of the new higher power of the m1. I love the nomad app, can’t believe we can do these incredible things on a ipad.
From what I heard, even 2017 Ipad pro can work quite well with more complex models.
Glen, what's the stand/holder thing you're using with your iPad?
It’s called a Sketchboard Pro. I absolutely love it. They aren’t cheap but if you are using your ipad commercially I think they are essential. sketchboardpro.com
There only $99, er well maybe more now. But yes someone recommended one to me awhile ago and I had my doubts but since it was so cheap I said why not, and it’s THE BEST accessory for the iPad I’ve ever gotten, so much so I bought another iPad Pro for everything else iPad related and have my magic keyboard attached.
Is there a difference on the amount of "subtools" you can have? Is the 40millions cap in general or per subtools?
Never hit a limit yet. Be a fun thing to try right!
Enjoyed this! Brill!
For somebody who is buying an iPad Pro for the first time, is it worth coughing up the $$ for the new 2021 with M1 chip or is the 2020 basically just as good? This is for an artist who uses ZBrush but wants to get off the Desktop PC ^_^.
The M1 is outstanding. If you have the dollars go for it. I helps massively with things like videos editing and working on huge documents in photoshop or procreate. There isn’t a huge benefit to getting the 16gig 2022 M1 as the 8 is more than sufficient for sculpting purposes.
@@SouthernGFX Ok, good to know! Thanks for the reply.
I'm considering the 8gb M1 model for use with Nomad. Can anyone confirm yet that they can get up 20 million polys and have suffer no lag? I'm a hobbyist and I'm just looking for a seamless experience. Or, can anyone confirm the same on a samsung tab S7+? Thanks.
I'm a beginner. Know nothing about ipads. Bought one a year ago to use procreate. Would it be worth getting an ipad pro for nomad? It does work on my ipad but sometimes crashes...
I would say yes, Ipad pro have a lot more RAM and can run app like this one quite fast. Even on Ipad pro 2017 people say Nomad Sculpt work quite well.
Do you recommend to start on iPad 9gen(2021) which has 3ram
Nomad Sculpt can work quite well on Ipad pro 2017 with 4 GB RAM so it may work too - just not with models with very high polygon count
Which case are you using?
I use a few different ones. On the desk I use a sketch board pro. Day-to-day I use the over priced magic keyboard. For everyday sketching I use a cheap-as-chips flip open case that I replace every few months.
@@SouthernGFX I’m trying to decide between the 11 and the 12.9 now!
To bad I only have the 8gb version.😁
I think you will get the same performance as this one. I can’t use over 6gb in nomad. We should do some tests on the same model and get the whole community positing the results.
@@SouthernGFX yeah I noticed that while watching the vid. I was a bit early with my comment. That said, I’m more than happy with the iPad I have. And I know that a whole lot of users would love to have an iPad like I have. I don’t want to sound like a spoiled person although I feel privileged. Let’s hope Nomad will get any uv-tools any time soon.🤜👍
@@bullshark1152 ha spoiled? You do realize that often times its the hardware that’s the cheap part! A lot of the software I use has either a $7K plus license attached or is a SaaS that runs $5-15K per/mo
Wouahhhh amazing character, i thinking to switch on ipad pro for nomad, how mush ram for run smooth in nomad do you think i need 8 or 16 ram ?
Is there a highter value to start directly with 16go ?
Have you ever try it to android tablet i really hesitate with the tab s8 ultra that is coming really soon.
You just do amazing thing