CSC#9: The TRUTH About Card Stores and Bulk
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- Опубликовано: 10 мар 2022
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glad this showed up in my recommended
no only does your store look great, but I appreciate the "behind-the-scenes"
I appreciate it!
Getting to big boy status with all the organization … can’t imagine doing this with a bin full of cards and sorting through it every time someone asked for an obscure .10¢ card 😂
I feel this is the difference between stores that will thrive in the super long term is this type of setup. The sunk cost is very high yes but lots of “treasure” in bulk imo.
As someone who bought a collection of over 250000 in essentially bulk, I appreciate seeing how you handle things. The box cost investment was crazy to begin with, and I eventually sold it to the guy I split it with because I didn't want to deal with it anymore
Hey I get that.
small world that Guy was me :) I am still grinding through that
Bulk is definitely my bread and butter. Selling it has paid for so many things. As you say, tedious, but I like the grind.
I don't believe you
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That's awesome.
Same here love flipping bulk
As a buyer I always wondered how tcg player direct worked for seller that's great for you guys to not ship 1 common out at a time
It’s really refreshing to see such an open and honest video about the background process. Love it
Yep, I built my shops foundation on this idea. Before I opened I was running a small "shop" out of an empty room in my house. I would buy bulk collections and send them in to Troll & Toads fulfilment service. I'd make between 500-1k a month doing that. Its a fuck ton of work and you can get burnt out super quick. Now that I have a shop, I rotate who sorts each week and for how long.
I likely processed your bulk more than once. It’s a lot of work but it’s still fun getting to deal with cards all day long.
I'd be so happy if I had such a amazing card store in my area.
I used to. Then, sadly, the landlord increased the price of rent. :(
That was impressive. For someone like me who loves building Cubes, your ability to show me all your bulk inventory is amazing! Great job 🤩
I can't tell you how many 25 cent cards I've purchased over the years. Bulk rares were a staple buy when I was building my early collection. Regular decks aren't all $5+ cards. From what I've seen, over half of all deck staples are less than a dollar.
Indeed
I feel you on the bulk, I basically go through my bulk when it comes in and pick and choose cards after sorting but still have over 20k cards that need to be listed lol.
game stores like yours are the backbone of the community and the game. It is hard work, but I am so glad you are doing it to such a high level and degree of detail. Thank you!
Thanks Andrew. I appreciate the kindness.
Just subbed to kings channel! Been thinking about getting into bulk but wasn’t sure how to go about it! Loved the video! Also wanted to say my girlfriend and I were driving back from Nashville and stopped by the store on our way back to Chicago! Was so much fun seeing the store in person and your staff were all amazing! We even took a picture outside of the store to say we’ve been there lol
Thank you for making this video. I started my collecting process last month. My bulk has gotten large. I am thinking long term and you are right about sorting cards out. Definitely tedious. I’ll definitely be doing my research of tcg player direct
Just started getting into collecting and watching to better my know. One thing that's impressed so much is the realness of some of content creators I've seen, so refreshing.
Love the video! Super interesting hearing the behind the scenes stuff. I sell on a very small scale on ebay and I’ve been contemplating what to do with my bulk. After watching this I’ll probably just leave it to the pros such as yourself lol keep grinding brother!
Thank you for shouting out TCG Bulk Kings! Im learning a lot from his methods on selling bulk and Im of the opinion of any hobby to let your hobby pay for itself!
Glad you're getting something from my humble efforts, lol
yo yo! Yeti Gaming member here. LOVE THE VIDS MAN this was a fun vid to listen to and it gave perspective that some might otherwise not have ever had before hearing this. keep it up man!
I didn't realise how big your operation is. That's an awesome walk through. Really enjoyed that Mace good video boss
whoa dude the back is looking great now! bravo and kudos to your awesome labor force and you for investing in that awesome robot.
As someone who has worked in various card stores over the last 25 years, I really liked how informative this was. One thing I'd add in is defraying cost of bulk by making grab bags. No matter what store I've been at, grab bags have been a great source of revenue. New players loved them to help build their collection cheap. Old players treated them like $1 lottery tickets, and if they didn't "win" anything (a good rare or a random prize), they'd usually just hand all the cards back to us and we'd just put that pack back into the mix and sell it again.
Damn Mason, you’re making me second guess my entire business-model 😢 Haha
I’ve joked about this before; but, in all honesty it’s probably not too far off the truth… I’d probably make more money flipping burgers at McDonalds if I ever went and tried to calculate my hourly wage; but, for me, I truly enjoy having a “large” (small in comparison) Inventory and grinding away on those $1-$10 Orders! TCGPlayer has been a game-changer for me and I look forward to expanding my Bulk Business!
You're another master to learn from. I know you talk about it a lot but a hands on video or series would be very neat.
Tyvm 4 this video, very informative! But thank you &your staff for even doing this. Singles are the way, ill check out your online store, man if i lived near you i would love to work sort!
One of my favorite videos in the Shop Confidential legacy. Dope stuff.
I've been a collector of bulk for ages but I definitely have to commend good dedicated you are to the craft.
as I have begun to fill in my collection for a card game, I always try to make sure to buy at least 1 more costly card, or keep my purchase above a certain price cause I know a business prolly doesn't enjoy shipping 20+ cards worth 5-15 cents a piece.
WOW! Truly amazing how organized you are.
Hey dude this popped up on my recommended. I appreciate your insight. Have a good day bud.
Thanks for giving us another look at some interesting behind the curtain LGS happenings Mason!
I'm curious if you've considered utilizing distributed inventory with a Warehouse Management System? Basically you could take the csv your ROCA sorter emails you and establish Bins and Zones for each tray. You wouldn't need to file all your Oath of the Gatewatch together so you'd save your employees' manual sorting hours. But you might need to scale your operation more for this to be worth it to you.
I give u big high five on your organization I love that idea am going to try that in my business it looks awesome !
In the past I've found some expensive yugioh card in the bulk like 1st edition bls ioc, ash blossom secret rare, and 1st edition mrd black skull dragon. Sometimes you never know what you will find in the bulk. Some card shop will let you search thru the bulk with their permission.
I worked at a Pokemon bulk buyer, we sorted out the cards from common, uncommon, rare, energy and other. They sold them in bulk 10 5 rows on a pallet. Made tons of money.
I enjoy going through bulk and being a TCG Direct seller makes it so easy for me lol
That’s so cool you are in Kentucky! This fall I will be starting college at Transylvania University in Lexington! (I am from Maryland so that’s cool to know an Awesome game store is near by!)
I know the pain, I mainly deal in yugioh and bulk was my life for a long time. I dont sort all of it but just pull everything worth pulling and list them. A 7k can take up to 2 hours depending on what is in there.
Well over a million cards!!!! I just hit seller level 4 on tcg player so excited to list my bulk now!
Nice find. I might actually drop by the store since you are local. Awesome job.
Super interesting look at it all. Thank you for sharing
My local card store, will run a sale every quarter, in order to get rid of their bulk.
During those sales, you can get 15-20 commons, or 8-12 uncommon for $1
wow never saw that roca thing before. insane technology, takes me back to having my tiny LGS and sorting thru bulk I "inherited" by hand. pauper and commander players came in and I had an amazing month and a half, and then what was left was just truly worthless stuff haha
I often wonder if it'd be worth it to go over it again and put it up online.
It's my dream to open a shop someday thank you for the helpful information!
I’m a chef by trade and we waste absolutely nothing if we can help it. Bones are turned into stock that’s turned into gravy all of which takes man hours too but The concept keeps places open. This is almost the same thing. Fascinating to see.
Love your intro. Great content as always!
Hey Mason, I really enjoy your videos. I've been a collector since the early 80's and have racked up a sizable collection over the years. I was just curious about the shelves you use to place your 5000 count boxes on in the back. I've got a lot of bulk myself and would really love to store them in a similar way. Could you please tell me who makes the shelving units or where to pick a couple up for myself? Thanks, and keep up the great content!
Rudy from Alpha Investments has the same grey shelves. They are pretty common to find at your local Costco/Sams Club. They are around $70 and to make set ups with that many shelves you have to put two together.
I helped a guy under the table with his TCG Player sorting that he did from home, but nothing to this scale. I would LOVE if my store (when we finally are in a spot to open it) could get to that level, and I've spent those hours hand sorting. Helping him and seeing the results of those TCG Direct orders made it feel a lot better
wow had no idea about tcgplayer direct, great advice thank you! gonna ship some bulk out
Hello fellow Kentuckian!, the shop looks amazing! Great video.
I live by your store. I should apply. I'm obsessed with sorting magic cards, and cataloging the collection online. I have always wished I could do it for a job, but didn't know how to get into it. Sorting is so fun to me!
Send us a resume to business@cnagames.com - we are looking to expand our team!
This video interests me because I recently bought a large amount of Nascar Cards, guessing 7-10k or so with mainly 1999-2003 stuff all Nascar and I am struggling to organize it
Awesome Video and Much Love as Always!!
I once, like many, wanted to run a game store. Then about 30 years ago I met the owners of my LFGS and learned what it takes. It's a lot of work and over those 30 years, there are more LFGSes where I live that died than managed to make it all that time. (3 out of the six have survived.)
I would get some pallets to get those boxes off the floor.
REALLY GOOD CONTENT!
(But i cannot stop think about that sprinklers above all this cards he he he he)
I was always curious about this - great information.
New sub. Love the channel! Is there ever any issue with card condition? Does TCGPlayer direct take all conditions? How do they verify that I determine price?
Thank you for a look into the way your store works! I'm a little concerned with some of the bulk on the ground and up against the wall however. Should the wall leak or water make its way into the shop the bottom row would be ruined.
This video made me wonder how to sell bulk better, even though all I do is play. There’s a LEGO store I love that has its inventory of loose pieces sorted in a similar way and that’s a chunk of their business too. Maybe there’s other small, volume-heavy business that could inspire some change to the model to make it easier
Comment from homeland of TCGplayer! Love using direct when i lobe close by feel like i get my cards much quicker lol
Have you looked into a Phyzbatch-9000 for sorting? It looks pretty good for bulk and collection sorting
This was super cool to see thanks for the awesome video
Omg I already do this for myself. I sort all my pokemon cards by number and set and box, and everything get sleeved. I mine as well start selling it. Also I love the robot.
Great info thanks for all the knowledge
That was a dazzling intro
Loved the video, glad it was recommended. That robot is great! Did you have it built or is it on market? Does it inventory it in your POS? Doing bulk how do inventory it into your POS, manually type it all in? I'm a big organization nerd and love the shop and behind the scenes
It's called the Roca sorter, and it can give you a csv of the cards, but it doesn't manage things like condition. We barcode cards over $1 so we can scan or pull them easier.
A very interesting series ! Keep it going !
Did a bit of quick math because I'm a nerd, each of those boxes assuming they're full holds 5,000 cards. There are 8 shelves per row on each of those stands, and 2 rows. You have 10 stands in total, so for magic assuming every box was completely full you would have 800,000 cards on the shelves alone. So you're probably pretty close on the 1 million cards count.
Awesome information! 👍 Thank you for producing this video. I just subscribed and will be looking at your website for singles. Time to watch your previous videos.
Very informational! I was curious about what you do with Pokémon bulk? For example, I know my LGS buys Pokémon bulk at a pretty high rate and my understanding is that they turn around and resell that bulk to other companies. I’m not sure if you do that at your store, but if you did, could you provide more insight on that process?
The rate for Pokemon bulk is generally much higher than Magic or Yu-Gi-Oh, largely because there are big online stores buying at high rates. Within the last year some stores were paying above $.05 per card in Pokemon bulk, more than 10x the standard Magic bulk price.
Love this, thanks recommended. Subbing.
what camera and microphone setup do you use? your audio is stellar.
I have 30,000 bulk pokemon cards sitting right beside me as i watch this video (only sorted by rarity) and i have been wanting to trade for sealed product or something like that but not real sure where i should send it so the pile just keeps growing everyday lol
0.O Looks like you have the spirit!
Thanks so much for the shout out! I'm really impressed with your set up, especially those shelves. Needing to get into a bigger space soon, so I'll be looking to get some shelves like that. Here my brain is telling me to tell you that if your 5-rows are full, each shelf unit has ~125k in it, so 8 is ~1M cards. Let me know if there's any way I can help you out, let me know, for sure, and thanks again!
Love your channel! Been watching for a couple weeks now!
I know you've probably read this a lot but this series is really good! Keep it up Mason. 💯
Thank you for saying so. I appreciate all the feed back.
Sounds like a challenge. Time to clean up my collection.
C & UC Bulk is high margin. You pay a penny or two for cards and sell them for .25-.50 each.
Mann, I struggle keeping track of around 10K cards in total as inventory when most cards have pictures.. Those bulk boxes would give me nightmares hahaha.
But yeh, the Japanese bulk of older sets that I sell can monthly actually pay my rent. I was super surprised that it sold so well and for so much
Went to a store for a Ainok Bond-Kin from Khans of Tarkir. I was told they dont sort their own bulk. Walked right out
Just found your channel from this video. Plan to look for similar videos on your channel to watch next. Very impressive business you guys have here and im glad you are sharing this with us. I always wanted to see the rocca card sorter in action. Its kind of a dream to get one eventually but its so expensive for a small business with no employees. Im curious do you guys actively sort and sell your yugioh bulk as well or where those 3 rows of 5ks just kind of stacked up for a later date. I would love to buy all 3 of those rows of 5ks of yugioh bulk if you ever want to clean house lol i would definitely make sure its worth your time. Anyways again just really impressive information and setup you have here. I hope i can grow to this scale at some point. Also curious if you have a link to the shelving units you used in this video for your sorted inventory. I'm looking to buy some soon. Thanks!
We just keep stacking the yugioh bulk telling ourselves we'll eventually hire someone capable of going through it. It's a lie, but one we keep believing.
@@CNA-Games Thanks for the response! If you ever want to seriously discuss the sale of the entire lot of Yugioh let me know! I could cover shipping costs. Bought out a few stores in the past in similar situations. Keep me in mind and let me know if you want my contact info. I have a few card shops that consistently fill up large flat rate boxes of Yugioh ship them to me and I find the value and offer for them something not many are willing to offer. Could potentially be a good way for you to find profit from a card game that you aren’t currently making money from. Thanks! And again awesome videos been enjoying your channel a lot.
so what do you get for those boxes of junk bulk? i buy most of the bulk that is sold in the los angeles aria and im always looking for more :)
Sorry I also meant to add that I LOVE the videos brother, and my kids can't get enough aswell I got hundreds of thousands of bulk cards most likely lol
I love sorting cards, and I long for this.
I like going through bulk and finding the sellable goodies.
Great video! Do you ship orders to The Netherlands?
That Roca sorter has blown my mind
$10 per thousand is actually fair; my lgs used to give $7 and now it $3 per thousand and you cant have lands in there at all. Thats some impressive backstock too. Id think of it like paying yourself to then make more money later. If you dont know your bulk then your missing out on multiple dollar uncommons and even edh or pauper staples.
I just started selling my singles on TCG player and it took me like 6 four hour days to get a good setup going. I only have 5K cards so I can’t imagine what you guys go through lol
Takes forever to go through bulk and organize it, but just remember even thou cards can be 5 to 70 cents a card to even dollars, there will always be someone who needs that cheap card either for deck building or finishing up a set or collection because, there are people who don't like buying boosters and boxes.
So what of all the really bulk standard set commons? Do people buy those at all? I love cracking packs but I have a 5k box of just plain bulk commons, I don't want to throw it out but I worry about storing the next 5k box of bulk commons.
How do you ensure your CF and TCG Player Inventory lines up? Is that just manual? You probably don't run into it often with how much you have, but I only have about 60K cards in my bulk storage at the moment and have run into where I sell my only 4 cards on one platform and miss taking them off the other. Do you just have so much this doesn't matter, do you just have reserves not listed, or is there integration to automate inventory counts....thanks again for the video and revisiting this topic, about 9 months ago I saw the first one and started a tcgplayer store dealing in bulk and now clear $1500-2500 per month and get to reinvest that into my personal collection, so thanks for the inspiration!
I wish there was a easy solution to cross post your entire inventory - unfortunately there is not at the moment. We use BinderPOS/shopify for our POS and online platform, and that links up with Channel Fireball. Everything else is manually put on ebay/tcgplayer, whichever we think would be best for it. It's not an amazing system, but it's the best that is out there right now.
Do you guys net deck pauper decks to sell them as prebuilt decks? Seems like a good way to move bulk.
Where do you find these stores with cases filled with pokemon i have so much i've been trying to dump and turn into magic and no card stores take pokemon even high end stuff.
I liked this behind the scenes a lot. And you make a good point the man hours of work are costly for LGS that's why TCG player outsourced that lol
I didn't even realize it was you until it panned to you behind the counter I've missed your vids!
Compared to the hoarders house setup of two of the stores local to me which I don't go to, I'd live to have a store like yours around here.
Thanks for the kind words!
I was a buyer for coolstuff for 2 years from 2017-2019. So i know what the process is for bulk and all the sorting. Their operation is unreal. Hoping everything i learned from working there, helps me when i start my store up soon
Coolstuff is no joke. I'm sure you have some stories to tell too.
@@CNA-Games yeah i have a bunch lol
Do you guys ship cards overseas (Australia) or is it only inthe USA atm??
I bought about a million and a half cards about 6 months ago. Already had half million bulk is no joke my friend no joke...and I looooove opening each box.. you are right it is not glamorous work
Good luck on getting through all of that. It is not easy!
Looking for some help on a few things. How do you price your bulk? According to market price or tcg low or something else? Without reaching the $600 per week requirement any insight on how to get accepted into tcg direct?
Hey Mason. Do you sell Yugioh singles anymore? I remember your inventory used to be vast, but now it is only a handful.