Matt Allen Tony pours a lot of work into his editing which is what makes his channel so awesome to watch. He's a skilled machinist as well as a skilled editor. 😊
And to think... This well spoken, witty, brilliant, and entertaining feller (ThisOldTony) use to not talk in his videos! Truth be had Keith Helped me through some rough times. I was stuck in a hospital bed for 170+ days and had an uncertain future. Spent another year in s wheelchair and bed at home . Down and depressed I found Keith's videos while in that situation in the hospital and it kept me entertained while learning something. I'm much better these days but still spend time to time in bed flared up and too ill to get out of bed or leave the house. It's these times I learn all I can by watching these video of yours, Keith's, Abom, S/V Seeker, S/V Delos, La Vagabonde, and few more. I'm very grateful of you folks sharing your time and making these videos to share with us. Some of us know just how much time it takes to edit and load these videos and we greatly appreciate you doing so!
@@andrewyork3869 prepare to have your mind blown... ruclips.net/video/sFrVdoOhu1Q/видео.html -- my machinist friend is happy if he can hold a tenth. I'm an amateur and I have never needed to do better than a thousandth - good enough for heat shrink fits, small O-ring grooves, and so on. But this guy - THIS GUY - ye gods! He's so next-level I can't see his level from here.
I've been watching Keith for years. This was so well done and just hilarious. I really like how you unite so many familiar you tubers in some of your videos. Since I haven't watched television in ( I can't even remember) 8 years or so, you guys have become my celebrates. Well done!!!
Haha :D I got mad at my 0,02mm/m level. it changed reading with me changing my position from one foot to another...and that on a 150mm thick concrete basement...easiest solution was to sell the level :D
Stefan Gotteswinter I wonder what's going to happen when you, This Old Tony, Keith Fenner and some other guys (like AvE or EEVblog or the likes) will get together and would make a machine... it'll either be glorious or fun to watch :)
Trying to level my lathe with a 0.05mm/m level, not much easier. Problem is the lathe is so light I don't think it's heavy enough to sit perfectly flat. I think that is why the manual says to cast bolts into the floor and anchor the lathe onto those, then adjust.
Actually a lot of the tracks are from recent videos of Keiths I recognize most of them. Some of them were serious cut and chops grabbing words from here and there to make sentences.
nope lol its all outtakes from keiths videos i recognized many of the clips and the episodes there from .. the my feet are off the ground one is followed by abom help! lol as keith hangs from a cheater pipe on a socket ... great episode ..nice explanations and clearly presented;] i only hope keith sees the humor and accepts it as praise or flattery instead of finding it insulting ..personally i think its great and think he will as well
Tony, I want to thank you. your videos have led me to the purchase of a lathe and a mill. I am currently setting everything up and rewatching your videos for help
Is there some kind of award for this performance? I have never seen/heard such a dry subject keep me so entertained/listening and informed as this!!! Great, creative, WOW!!!!
For the record Toni I shot that Lathe leveling video 3 1/2 years ago when I was living in the mountains of north Idaho. I was not 16, I was 18 yr old, but since I've been living here in hot humid Atlanta I've aged almost 35 years. I think I should move back. LOL
That was one of my favorite videos i've ever watched on youtube! I watch all of keiths videos. Going to be watching all of yours too. Super well done, man. Thanks a ton!
Alright, Old Tony, I am quickly running out of your videos to watch. You got to make more of them. Like, quit your job and just make youtube videos. I promise to like every single one of them. Now that is something you can take to the bank and pay rent with. RUclips likes.
hi tiny another great video. great sense of humor. I've never seen a lathe set up that way before. I've always separated the leveling process from the tailstock adjustment. I've always hung a shorter piece of material in the chuck without the tailstock in play and took a very light cut. adjust the levelers until the cut is true. at this point the ways are parallel to the center axis of the machine. Next mount a piece between centers and if you're cutting a taper then the tailstock is adjusted to correct. in your method any twisting of the ways will influence the part via the tail stock. I hope that makes sense. at the end of the day if it's cutting right then method isn't a problem. just thought you might want to hear my way. why I don't know LOL THANKS again for great video. I'm always waiting for more of yours.
What you described is correct. Didn't intend to do a step by step (I think I make ref to that in the beginning?), more meant to expose that lathe alignment affects the work and how it does that. In my case my lathe was fine (headstock, tailstock, twist) before I moved it. It started turning a taper after I moved it back .. so I already knew what the problem was. Thanks for watching and good comment! Maybe I have to do a follow up.
Was looking for this answer, but being a newbie I thought I better read all the accolades rather than ask a dumb questions 4 years after the fact. Cheers guys
I'm a changed man after watching this video! I must admit that i thought that the leveling didn´t do that much, but afte watching you put that piece of material under one of the leveling feets and show the differens it made i'v changed my mind. Thank you for your time!
Fantastic work as always Tony. I'm sure Keith will love it too! Just fitting DROs to my new lathe, and then onto the levelling so this video was well timed.
Ok, I actually like leveling lathes. Its a challenge to do and keep your sanity at the same time. My question is, how do you know that 'V' block you used on the front rail and that 1-2-3 block on its 2" side are parallel across the top? Did you cut the 'V' block? Nice level by the way.
He said he was just getting the bubble within the range he could read relative changes from one position to the next. It is irrelevant if the lathe is actually level. It is important that it is not twisted.
Thanks for the Link on Dale Derry / Metal Tips & Tricks Leveling a Lathe. a unique and doable by most anyone especially those who do not have an expensive Precision Lathe Level
Thank you very much for that video! I always wondered why manufacturers making such a hype with leveling lathes with a 300$ machinists level. Now I know... Great job! Volker
My old South Bend is almost 80 years old. That's twelve years older than me. What I don't like it looks better than me and makes better parts than me and complains less than I do. Oh well.
Simply brilliant Tony, great idea of having Keith over to the shop to answer a few questions we have all been dying to know. I'm glad you had the courage to ask about the desiccant thing, probably easier for Keith to open up to another RUclips machinist celebrity.
Great video as always. One question, it is my understanding that when "leveling" the ways the tailstock should not be used to support the work because the tailstock itself may be out of line. Any thoughts?
This is a great video. I'm in the process of installing and leveling a new lathe myself, so this was timely. But I'm also an avid watcher of Keith Fenner's videos, and I laughed aloud throughout your video. Very entertaining as well as educational. If only all RUclips stars were as good . . . Thanks for doing this.
Knowledge, wordplay, diction, rhetoric, but editing too?.... Im sure a lot of this and these things go over everyone’s head. It sure does to mine. These video’s r genius to say the least. Not sure how u do it. But I appreciate it. Thank you.
Great video. My old atlas has been out 5 thou over 24". Could only use it for short stuff and the parts were still tapered. Got it down to 1/2 thou over the entire 40" bed. THANKS THIS OLD TONY!!!
Well, I am amazed this time, not only by all your knoledge, wich's normal through out all other videos I've seen, but this time I am also amazed by your imaination on how to explain these matters and the ways you made up to turn an almost unseanable video to a pleasent one... I am a self mde man, who would love to learn how to use a lathe, as how to weld properly, and how to use other precision's machines. But there isn't any sort of school around where I live, and I got a very much different job that happends I love too. I work in a secondary public school, and of course surrounded by teachers. We got some grand souls there. Yet none like you... Please keep iving us some more videos. Me and thousands others who could not came in to college classes have now maybe our last closer chance, right here at You Tube University. 1000 Thanks!!
I am battling my lathe lately over it not being or staying level. I made 1/4" steel plates for the factory adjuster feet to set on thus spreading out the load. It still wants to get out of level. I assume it is happening from the vibration of the machine causing it to "walk". This is an old 5912 Clausing lathe. The original manual shows anchoring the lathe to the concrete with 3/8" concrete anchors. The factory adjuster feet have holes for this very purpose. I'm going give this a try. I'm convinced it will end my frustrations. Wish me luck. Good video and perfectly timed.
Good luck! Though if its an old machine it may have a bit of wear which will make leveling next to impossible. Best you can do is get it close enough for the size work you do.
This Old Tony Actually it had a very easy previous life leaving it in very good condition. It was set up and used as a second step lathe for machining bronze bushings in a small custom hot rod shop in the Midwest USA. It is a 1962 and the ways look like new. Of course they are the flame hardened ways so they usually do. When I level it using a precision level, it will make beautiful straight cuts with no taper. When I start noticing the finish on my turnings looking rough and even chattering, I'll recheck level and it's always off on the level. I mean anything is possible and there is certainly a chance there is wear I can't detect. I figure I'll anchor it thus eliminating that from my mind. 😁
BrokenRRT I have an 850 sq foot shop on a 10" thick concrete slab. The concrete is the very smooth polished finish. It sweeps up hips and dust nicely but I think it also accentuates my problem with the lathe being that the floor is slick and smooth.
kentucky ken I suppose you could, but I'd be worried about it being hard to level and then stay level even after the "settling" period. I think I'm gonna go with Clausings recommendations of the concrete anchors. It won't be the first anchors in my shop, as I've anchored several other items. Worst case, I have holes in my floor and I'm still whining about my lathe walking. I'm thinking Clausing had a reason for putting the suggestion and even how to instructions in the manual way back.
Thanks, that was incredibly useful. I thought I understood the various geometric issues at hand, but you really brought it all together nicely and I definitely learned a few things.Kudos on what must have been a ton of editing to get Keith to visit. He's a stubborn bugger.
Brilliant timing ! My mini lathe is almost running with a washing machine motor, and the thing turned tapers straight out of the box. Now i got a clue what to go looking for to fix that. Thanks !
Superb!! informative - and put me in a better mood too! love it. I have the same old colchester lathe, might be time to do a few tests on that - I think the world has twisted a bit since I first installed it!
How does it turn without a center in the end? I just know machine checking for beeing streight without centers, to not manipulate the axis of the work relative to the spindle.....
thats so true !! was intruduced as a machinist on a good old cholchester...thats true for all the good old companys from Germany , England and the USA ..
I would really like to see you redo this video with a full alignment starting with the headstock like you might if you were bringing in a new lathe - this is truly a very complicated process but worth the education. I really love your videos- especially with the kids being part of it - thanks for reading
My only question is... has Keith found out yet? He *is* in my neck of the woods you know. Heck I practically drove past his shop to get that screwcutting Hjorth lathe. :) Great work as always, Tony!
I love this video because it’s a super important topic for people like us that obsess over producing perfect parts, or at least as perfect as our precision instruments can prove or disprove. It’s also extraordinarily difficult to describe. ToT is a master, no doubt! I just crafted a description of the parallel/straight predicament. Lmk what you think: Coplanar may be the most concise term for describing the relationship between the ways and (center of the chuck) the work. “A single flat 2 dimensional plane connects each way to the center of the work, each way to the other, and a single Regular Triangular Prism joins the planes between ways and from each way to the center of the work.” -Castor
You nailed this one! I don't machine yet ( but will). I've been following the "Keiths" (Fenner and Rucker), Abom79, Tubalcain and the rest for a couple years now and because of them I just started watching your efforts. I have to say you did and excellent job with your "leveling" video. You made it understandable to a neophyte like me...plus you had me crying with laughter!!!! Thanks for all the effort.
good information. i had always used the flats of the ways to check level. i never thought to test the v way against the flat. i am going to check flat to flat and v to flat to see of there is a difference. thanks tony and keith.
Thank you for the interesting video. So, how did you decide it was the lathe bed that needed leveling and not the lateral alignment / offset in the tailstock? Just wondering ...
But when you’re checking for taper or misalignment of the lathe bed to headstock , would you not have the tail stock not in the part that way you get correct alignment from the headstock to the bed? After bed is good then check the tailstock alignment to chuck center line? I’m trying to get my lathe set up properly as I have taper wirh 6 adjustment bolts. I’m doing the 4 inner ones and the two on outside of spindle end I just snug up I’m guessing 🤷🏻♂️. Not really sure :(
Best video ever! Just hilarious. I actually did this to my lathe last weekend. I got it all level with the machinists level then checked for taper and it was out. I had to make it less level to lose the taper. I don't think I have any wear though so now I am confused. I will check it again I think.
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I cannot begin to imagine how much work you put into making this video... It was totally worth it.
Matt Allen Tony pours a lot of work into his editing which is what makes his channel so awesome to watch. He's a skilled machinist as well as a skilled editor. 😊
And to think... This well spoken, witty, brilliant, and entertaining feller (ThisOldTony) use to not talk in his videos!
Truth be had Keith Helped me through some rough times. I was stuck in a hospital bed for 170+ days and had an uncertain future. Spent another year in s wheelchair and bed at home . Down and depressed I found Keith's videos while in that situation in the hospital and it kept me entertained while learning something. I'm much better these days but still spend time to time in bed flared up and too ill to get out of bed or leave the house. It's these times I learn all I can by watching these video of yours, Keith's, Abom, S/V Seeker, S/V Delos, La Vagabonde, and few more. I'm very grateful of you folks sharing your time and making these videos to share with us. Some of us know just how much time it takes to edit and load these videos and we greatly appreciate you doing so!
I hope you are healing well.
Hey I hope you are doing well!
So if I twist my lathe I can cut tapers?! I'm sold
Npt
Great Job! and a great subject, to expand on. Glad I could drop in and help out! LOL ;{)------
The master has spoken. :)))
Keith Fenner
Please join Tony in another video Keith haha!
This is hilarious I watch it all the time. Please make it happen Tony.
Damn how I would have loved to have been a mosquito on the vice when you were watching this video Mr. Fenner!!!!
Now you need to get him back! Do a This Old Tony spoof. ;)
Did you account for the tides ? Lunar gravity throws my lathe out of alignment every couple of weeks.
You're joking but Airbus had problems with that :D
@@xPentag0n I find that level of precise mind boggling.
@@andrewyork3869 prepare to have your mind blown... ruclips.net/video/sFrVdoOhu1Q/видео.html -- my machinist friend is happy if he can hold a tenth. I'm an amateur and I have never needed to do better than a thousandth - good enough for heat shrink fits, small O-ring grooves, and so on. But this guy - THIS GUY - ye gods! He's so next-level I can't see his level from here.
@@andrewyork3869 Ask a machinist if you can park a shop heater next to his lathe.
@@markfergerson2145 so much more goes into machining then it seems on the surface.
I've been watching Keith for years. This was so well done and just hilarious. I really like how you unite so many familiar you tubers in some of your videos. Since I haven't watched television in ( I can't even remember) 8 years or so, you guys have become my celebrates.
Well done!!!
Haha :D
I got mad at my 0,02mm/m level. it changed reading with me changing my position from one foot to another...and that on a 150mm thick concrete basement...easiest solution was to sell the level :D
Great idea! I've thrown my bathroom scales out, too. Keep telling me I'm gaining weight. Why's it so hard to find accurate scales?
Stefan Gotteswinter I wonder what's going to happen when you, This Old Tony, Keith Fenner and some other guys (like AvE or EEVblog or the likes) will get together and would make a machine... it'll either be glorious or fun to watch :)
Stefan Gotteswinter this reminds me of a friend of mine who refuses to use a digital caliper because its hard to ignore the decimal errors :-)
Germans have the best senses of humour!
Trying to level my lathe with a 0.05mm/m level, not much easier. Problem is the lathe is so light I don't think it's heavy enough to sit perfectly flat. I think that is why the manual says to cast bolts into the floor and anchor the lathe onto those, then adjust.
“Chrome, vanadium, drop forged made in Japan” ;”Close ; cast iron made in England”!!! I was crying, laughing so hard!
Wow, you sure are easily amused. The rest of us heard it as a boring, irrelevant waste of time that wasn't even funny.
@@johncoops6897 You replied to a year old comment just to be an ass. Keep to yourself sometimes kiddo. :)
@@johncoops6897 Not sure why you say _"the rest of us"_ since the vast majority of TOT viewers aren't miserable pricks like you.
the very best lathe leveling vid I've seen, now you see what can be accomplished when you put your head together with a Jedi Master
This Old Tony : one of the most entertaining RUclips creators I know... Keep up the great work !
Watched this again 6 years later and still enjoy it. It also refreshed some forgotten nightmares, ERR, memories. :-)
Absolutely hilarious! Especially because I have watched a lot of videos from both Keith and you over the last few years. Thanks for cheering me up.
"My parts are small, or I can compensate"
That's just too much information.
the first guy on RUclips to admit his parts are small
And it turned out tapered
I just knew there was a "thats what she said" coming but I guess not.
How did you get all that audio from Keith? His videos are so short and he hardly talks!
At first I was thinking he asked Keith to record some lines like 'my feet are levitating now' but now I doubt that. This was hilarious
Actually a lot of the tracks are from recent videos of Keiths I recognize most of them. Some of them were serious cut and chops grabbing words from here and there to make sentences.
nope lol its all outtakes from keiths videos i recognized many of the clips and the episodes there from .. the my feet are off the ground one is followed by abom help! lol as keith hangs from a cheater pipe on a socket ... great episode ..nice explanations and clearly presented;] i only hope keith sees the humor and accepts it as praise or flattery instead of finding it insulting ..personally i think its great and think he will as well
Richard Schmidtendorff
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When I watch Keith, I do so at 2x. He almost sounds normal that way.
Tony, I want to thank you. your videos have led me to the purchase of a lathe and a mill. I am currently setting everything up and rewatching your videos for help
I cannot believe I missed this video. The world needs you, Tony.
Watching and listening to this made my week. I had just finished watching Keith's new vid and here he was again. Well Done
Is there some kind of award for this performance? I have never seen/heard such a dry subject keep me so entertained/listening and informed as this!!! Great, creative, WOW!!!!
TOT: You are a fabulous teacher. I have leveled machines as a job, and you really makes it understandable. 🤗
Dear, This Old Tony.... another brilliant, witty and very well edited vid.
Toooney, as a student and beginner cnc-operator I love your videos. Always fun to watch and informative.
This one was great, keep it up.
That mock-up is super great. Your movies are such wonderful bits of presentation and editing. Glad I found them, and thanks for making them!
Great job, that took a lot of work. Very entertaining and educational, a combination that is often hard to achieve. Strong work!
Thanks Jim! A pleasure to see you here.
I'm quietly in the background a lot....learning from the masters!
For the record Toni I shot that Lathe leveling video 3 1/2 years ago when I was living in the mountains of north Idaho. I was not 16, I was 18 yr old, but since I've been living here in hot humid Atlanta I've aged almost 35 years. I think I should move back. LOL
Yes! Move back here to Idaho!
If and when I need cheered up, simply laugh, and learn TOT and Keith. Both of you at your best!!!
That was one of my favorite videos i've ever watched on youtube! I watch all of keiths videos. Going to be watching all of yours too. Super well done, man. Thanks a ton!
Alright, Old Tony, I am quickly running out of your videos to watch. You got to make more of them. Like, quit your job and just make youtube videos. I promise to like every single one of them. Now that is something you can take to the bank and pay rent with. RUclips likes.
ha! thanks Nick!
hi tiny
another great video. great sense of humor.
I've never seen a lathe set up that way before. I've always separated the leveling process from the tailstock adjustment. I've always hung a shorter piece of material in the chuck without the tailstock in play and took a very light cut. adjust the levelers until the cut is true. at this point the ways are parallel to the center axis of the machine. Next mount a piece between centers and if you're cutting a taper then the tailstock is adjusted to correct. in your method any twisting of the ways will influence the part via the tail stock.
I hope that makes sense. at the end of the day if it's cutting right then method isn't a problem. just thought you might want to hear my way. why I don't know LOL
THANKS again for great video. I'm always waiting for more of yours.
What you described is correct. Didn't intend to do a step by step (I think I make ref to that in the beginning?), more meant to expose that lathe alignment affects the work and how it does that. In my case my lathe was fine (headstock, tailstock, twist) before I moved it. It started turning a taper after I moved it back .. so I already knew what the problem was. Thanks for watching and good comment! Maybe I have to do a follow up.
Was looking for this answer, but being a newbie I thought I better read all the accolades rather than ask a dumb questions 4 years after the fact. Cheers guys
I'm a changed man after watching this video! I must admit that i thought that the leveling didn´t do that much, but afte watching you put that piece of material under one of the leveling feets and show the differens it made i'v changed my mind.
Thank you for your time!
This is the most amusing video to date! I really home Keith got a chuckle out of this too! Nice work, sir.
Thanks, Tech.. that makes two of us. :)
@@ThisOldTony Do you communicate by e-mail ? I'm looking for a communicative person with a Student !
one of the best, makes learning fun, enjoy watching you and Keith
Fantastic work as always Tony. I'm sure Keith will love it too!
Just fitting DROs to my new lathe, and then onto the levelling so this video was well timed.
I swear, you make some of the funniest educational videos I've ever seen. Thank you.
I can't mash the like button enough! You sir have entertained an unentertainable person. Once again, great content and production at the highest level
Ok, I actually like leveling lathes. Its a challenge to do and keep your sanity at the same time. My question is, how do you know that 'V' block you used on the front rail and that 1-2-3 block on its 2" side are parallel across the top? Did you cut the 'V' block? Nice level by the way.
@ 18:14 he says they are not the right blocks, but he has the combination somewhere :-)
He said he was just getting the bubble within the range he could read relative changes from one position to the next. It is irrelevant if the lathe is actually level. It is important that it is not twisted.
Agreed. Constant is a good indicator too. Thanks
You could use a planer gauge or adjustable parallel as part of one stack to get both sides equal.
How about an accurate automatic site level and a set of verniers ?
It gets harder to pick a favorite of your videos every time you upload a new one. :)
Two years later and it's impossible to pick just one favorite
I appreciate your decication to the craft of filmmaking. All the best from NZ
I find it really amusing how I can laugh so bad yet learn so much with a video about tuning up a lathe. Thank you, Tony. I love your channel.
Thanks for the Link on Dale Derry / Metal Tips & Tricks Leveling a Lathe. a unique and doable by most anyone especially those who do not have an expensive Precision Lathe Level
I recognized Keith Fenner's voice in the very first two words of your video. I continue to love your wry and droll sense of humor! Just great, Dude!
Awesome, you do put in lot of time and effort to create such good content. Appreciate your humor.
who knew he was that sensitive about desiccant
Thanks for the really stomach cramping laughs in this one. I love your videos and look forward to them. Great stuff every time!
Just brilliant. A masterpiece. I see that some people have zero sense of humour here and don't read the description either.
that was amazing! you're officially one of my 3 favorite youtubers along with keith and ave now!
I love Keith, this mash up is just what this weekend needed :D
This was enjoyable, really liked the choice and editing of Keiths comments.
Thank you very much for that video! I always wondered why manufacturers making such a hype with leveling lathes with a 300$ machinists level. Now I know...
Great job!
Volker
My old South Bend is almost 80 years old. That's twelve years older than me. What I don't like it looks better than me and makes better parts than me and complains less than I do. Oh well.
there are a lot of components involved in accuracy, and yer efforts certainly helped, and I busted a gut with the humor, thanks for your video work
Tony is always a nice surprise. I am happy i found his channel and hope he will produce more and more contents. Applause.
Gentlemens, thank you from France for this very comprehensive and useful vidéo ! It will serve my Colchester Triumph 2000. François
Simply brilliant Tony, great idea of having Keith over to the shop to answer a few questions we have all been dying to know. I'm glad you had the courage to ask about the desiccant thing, probably easier for Keith to open up to another RUclips machinist celebrity.
I'm impressed by your commitment to the bit.
Great video as always. One question, it is my understanding that when "leveling" the ways the tailstock should not be used to support the work because the tailstock itself may be out of line. Any thoughts?
There is a reason why your subscriber count is climbing in record time. very well deserved!
That was awesome! Keith did a great job what a great community of metal workers.
This is a great video. I'm in the process of installing and leveling a new lathe myself, so this was timely. But I'm also an avid watcher of Keith Fenner's videos, and I laughed aloud throughout your video. Very entertaining as well as educational. If only all RUclips stars were as good . . . Thanks for doing this.
tony you make me giggle like a little kid. thank you for all of this, greeting from germany
Sure could have used (understand) this information years ago when I got my "well worked" lathe! Great vid again!
Knowledge, wordplay, diction, rhetoric, but editing too?.... Im sure a lot of this and these things go over everyone’s head. It sure does to mine. These video’s r genius to say the least. Not sure how u do it. But I appreciate it. Thank you.
Great video. My old atlas has been out 5 thou over 24". Could only use it for short stuff and the parts were still tapered. Got it down to 1/2 thou over the entire 40" bed. THANKS THIS OLD TONY!!!
Well, I am amazed this time, not only by all your knoledge, wich's normal through out all other videos I've seen, but this time I am also amazed by your imaination on how to explain these matters and the ways you made up to turn an almost unseanable video to a pleasent one... I am a self mde man, who would love to learn how to use a lathe, as how to weld properly, and how to use other precision's machines. But there isn't any sort of school around where I live, and I got a very much different job that happends I love too. I work in a secondary public school, and of course surrounded by teachers. We got some grand souls there. Yet none like you... Please keep iving us some more videos. Me and thousands others who could not came in to college classes have now maybe our last closer chance, right here at You Tube University.
1000 Thanks!!
Hands down the most hilarious machining video I've ever watched! Great info as well. Thanks!
I am battling my lathe lately over it not being or staying level. I made 1/4" steel plates for the factory adjuster feet to set on thus spreading out the load. It still wants to get out of level. I assume it is happening from the vibration of the machine causing it to "walk". This is an old 5912 Clausing lathe. The original manual shows anchoring the lathe to the concrete with 3/8" concrete anchors. The factory adjuster feet have holes for this very purpose. I'm going give this a try. I'm convinced it will end my frustrations. Wish me luck.
Good video and perfectly timed.
Good luck! Though if its an old machine it may have a bit of wear which will make leveling next to impossible. Best you can do is get it close enough for the size work you do.
This Old Tony Actually it had a very easy previous life leaving it in very good condition. It was set up and used as a second step lathe for machining bronze bushings in a small custom hot rod shop in the Midwest USA. It is a 1962 and the ways look like new. Of course they are the flame hardened ways so they usually do. When I level it using a precision level, it will make beautiful straight cuts with no taper. When I start noticing the finish on my turnings looking rough and even chattering, I'll recheck level and it's always off on the level. I mean anything is possible and there is certainly a chance there is wear I can't detect. I figure I'll anchor it thus eliminating that from my mind. 😁
grntitan1 - what is your floor made of? Substrate?
Monolithic slab or ?
BrokenRRT I have an 850 sq foot shop on a 10" thick concrete slab. The concrete is the very smooth polished finish. It sweeps up hips and dust nicely but I think it also accentuates my problem with the lathe being that the floor is slick and smooth.
kentucky ken I suppose you could, but I'd be worried about it being hard to level and then stay level even after the "settling" period. I think I'm gonna go with Clausings recommendations of the concrete anchors. It won't be the first anchors in my shop, as I've anchored several other items. Worst case, I have holes in my floor and I'm still whining about my lathe walking. I'm thinking Clausing had a reason for putting the suggestion and even how to instructions in the manual way back.
You're a brilliant youtuber
Best youtube collaboration I've seen to date!
Thanks, that was incredibly useful. I thought I understood the various geometric issues at hand, but you really brought it all together nicely and I definitely learned a few things.Kudos on what must have been a ton of editing to get Keith to visit. He's a stubborn bugger.
That mock up model took a lot of the "black magic" out of lathe leveling for me. Thanks! I could never understand it before.
Yeah, it was a really good demonstration of what we're looking to correct.
Great video, thank you for your time invested to teach and make it fun.
Thanks Tony. Your mock up really helped explain the issues. Greet work.
Brilliant timing ! My mini lathe is almost running with a washing machine motor, and the thing turned tapers straight out of the box. Now i got a clue what to go looking for to fix that. Thanks !
Did you test it without the tailstock?
Have you thought about how very specific the nomenclature of your humour is. It's brilliant. Thank you.
Superb!! informative - and put me in a better mood too! love it. I have the same old colchester lathe, might be time to do a few tests on that - I think the world has twisted a bit since I first installed it!
Very informative. Funny as hell, too. Nice of Keith to contribute as well.
How does it turn without a center in the end? I just know machine checking for beeing streight without centers, to not manipulate the axis of the work relative to the spindle.....
I love that your use a Colchester student lathe, I live and work in Colchester. Shame Colchester lathes shutdown..
thats so true !! was intruduced as a machinist on a good old cholchester...thats true for all the good old companys from Germany , England and the USA ..
I haven't watched this video in 4 years, but just rewatched and I'm still laughing. Keith talk-over is just hilarious.
FANTASTIC VIDEO. I wish now that I had spent ore time in the "Metal Shop" , verses the "WOOD SHOP" back in Jr/ Senior HIgh ... GREATLY ENTERTAINING !!
Ok, I don't know this video's reference. What channel was he doing audio sampling on?
Keith Fenner's - Turn Wright Machine works. Hes amazing
Nick McNeely turn wright machine works with keith fenner
Well Nick, we will see you next year :) ... It will take a while to watch all of Keith's cool stuff !! Enjoy. Lots to learn over there on his channel.
I would really like to see you redo this video with a full alignment starting with the headstock like you might if you were bringing in a new lathe - this is truly a very complicated process but worth the education.
I really love your videos- especially with the kids being part of it - thanks for reading
This vid still cracks me up. Love the exaggerated model to show twist can affect relative tool position.
Great comedy team, thanks for the video and laughs.
My only question is... has Keith found out yet? He *is* in my neck of the woods you know. Heck I practically drove past his shop to get that screwcutting Hjorth lathe. :) Great work as always, Tony!
Keith knows. His comment beat you by about three hours LOL.
This video was enlightening, thank you for being an outstanding mentor TOT. Happy Chips
I love this video because it’s a super important topic for people like us that obsess over producing perfect parts, or at least as perfect as our precision instruments can prove or disprove. It’s also extraordinarily difficult to describe. ToT is a master, no doubt! I just crafted a description of the parallel/straight predicament. Lmk what you think:
Coplanar may be the most concise term for describing the relationship between the ways and (center of the chuck) the work. “A single flat 2 dimensional plane connects each way to the center of the work, each way to the other, and a single Regular Triangular Prism joins the planes between ways and from each way to the center of the work.” -Castor
Question Tony: how do you know the taper is not from the tail stock having a slight offset?
The most original and entertaining, that's for sure!
Tony you always make such entertaining vides even if they weren't about machining they'd still be fin to watch.
You nailed this one! I don't machine yet ( but will). I've been following the "Keiths" (Fenner and Rucker), Abom79, Tubalcain and the rest for a couple years now and because of them I just started watching your efforts. I have to say you did and excellent job with your "leveling" video. You made it understandable to a neophyte like me...plus you had me crying with laughter!!!! Thanks for all the effort.
good information. i had always used the flats of the ways to check level. i never thought to test the v way against the flat. i am going to check flat to flat and v to flat to see of there is a difference. thanks tony and keith.
Great editing as always tony! Hilarious and informative
I just love that the mock up Lathe was labelled "10EE".
Nearly choked on my chicken strips. What a scream! Thanks to Keith for good sportsmanship!
Holy fuck that was so funny!
I hope Keith is a good sport about it :)
I think he is, it's not as serious as a 4 jaw competition after all!
Thank you for the interesting video. So, how did you decide it was the lathe bed that needed leveling and not the lateral alignment / offset in the tailstock? Just wondering ...
But when you’re checking for taper or misalignment of the lathe bed to headstock , would you not have the tail stock not in the part that way you get correct alignment from the headstock to the bed?
After bed is good then check the tailstock alignment to chuck center line?
I’m trying to get my lathe set up properly as I have taper wirh 6 adjustment bolts. I’m doing the 4 inner ones and the two on outside of spindle end I just snug up I’m guessing 🤷🏻♂️. Not really sure :(
Best video ever! Just hilarious.
I actually did this to my lathe last weekend. I got it all level with the machinists level then checked for taper and it was out.
I had to make it less level to lose the taper. I don't think I have any wear though so now I am confused. I will check it again I think.
Dude I lost my shit at the hose part. I've watched this probably 4 times in 4 years. Never gets old lmao.