Fact: Chuck Norris doesn't need a laithe. Once the work is centered in Chucks hand, out of fear for it's own existence, it becomes whatever he wants it to be.
well it's a lathe ruclips.net/user/postUgkxN9zrzkkhnjUF5PQbuA_B1gYdsfCu9k6z but it wasn't what i would have anticipated. Headstock, tailstock, carriage apron are manufactured from aluminum now not cast iron. The spindle diameter for the bearings is too small allowing for a few play in the spindle so I am using some blue Loctite to take out the play.
I want to see the handpuppets !!! After I discovered that the runout on my 3-jaw was up to 6 thou, I started using my 4-jaw more and more. For the first few weeks it was really frustrating, but then I got a little system working and I found it to be almost relaxing. There is a sense of accomplishment of getting a part centered in the 4-jaw to better than a half a thou. I haven't seen my 3-jaw for a year or so.
have a good at a very small Shipyard I once worked at my labor was the one and only machinist he was from Haiti. He had a problem with people coming in and using his lathes. Then he took all the three jaw Chuck's and stuffed them in the Attic
Thanks, Tony. I feel like you talk to us first-graders really well with these machining basics videos. As a guy who's just getting ready to dip his toe into machine work (I'm mostly a dead tree carcass guy), these vids are extremely helpful to me.
I restored an old atlas lathe and ive been going back throw your old videos trying to figure out how to use it. Your videos are such an incredible collection of knowledge
I'm not a machinist, nor do I own a lathe, however I do enjoy expanding my knowledge, mostly though it's the witty humor that brings me back to these videos.
Great content as always. Only one gaping hole in this storyline, Tony. Adjustable backplate chucks. They can make a three jaw run on center, but only because they are effectively a four jaw on one side with a three jaw on the other. I suppose Clickspring would include the cyanoacrylate chuck on the list. 😎
courier11sec He's been busy marking off the progression of the sunset each evening, then inverting the results for Australia to check the Antikythera Mechanism's math for the northern hemisphere!
Impressive how many subscribers you got since I subscribed. Please keep the great work up! The jokes in your videos always make my day while I learn something new at the same time.
I have no knowledge of machine shop stuff and will never be a machine shop guy, still I love your videos. Your sense of humor and editing is just pure gold. Your videos give me a good time and I learn new things I will probably never put into practice. Anyway, just wanted to say Hi and thank you.
Please don't take this the wrong way, but that was the most interesting boring discussion on chucks. I loved it! I MUST be a tool geek. Love your stuff. Looking forward to the next one.
I enjoyed this! The jokes actually made me chuckle! Love the devo reference!I've been retired for 5 years. Make stuff on my lathe all the time. The other day I thought I needed a bigger 3 jaw forgetting that there is a never used large four jaw in a box under the lathe. This was 6 years ago so I hope you're still turning! 😁
Im not going to "ignore that part you didnt see" Im going to be highly critical of it. 1.It felt like it went by way too fast and almost like It was gone before I wad able to digest any of the information 2. I was really diggin that interpretive dance number you and your cats did. 3. There was wayy too much stuff you left out for me. Maybe your more experience viewers dont need all the hand holding but to me the information seemed a bit empy.
Got a good chuckle out of that video :) I would stay away from ER for workholding in the lathe, it is relatively annoying because you cant hold very short parts without a filler-piece in the collet. You left the allimportant magnetic lathe chuck out :(
Yes you need a filler / plug. Especially in the Pratt flex collets. I do not own a mag chuck for the lathe. They are foreign to me therefore I fear them.
I find it amazing that Stephane uses a 3jaw and simply loosens the backplate and centers the work with an indicator. I've never seen anyone do that, but he makes it work well. So that basically destroys Tony's position that the 3jaw can't do accurate work holding. I think they need to step outside and settle this like men, with chuck keys. Last man standing. They should probably settle the magnetic chuck question at the same time.
Picking only one, and without sampling all the other gems that will surely follow, @2:24 ... abso/it depends is priceless, and refreshes my appreciation of TOT and my enjoyment of the exhilarating dangerous-waterslide experience his videos demand as payment.
Depends how good your spindle brake is. I forgot to take the brake off once and the lathe screwed its way half way through the wall before I could stop it. 12tpi Whitworth, as I recall.
Well I'm on to you Tony! Everyone else have a theory about the pixelated part, but I think it was because you didn't want us to see how bad of shape your spindle was before you cleaned it ! 😆 All in all some good basic info ! 👍 👍 Thanks for sharing and take care.
Sir, I dont own a leathe and i am not planning to own one, but your videos are pure gold and I dont wana miss any of them, you have that art of explaining complicated things with such a smooth and easy way, I love it :)
As a newbie to lathes I found this video welcome, fun, interesting and answering a lot of questions I didn't know I had. I had not a clue about chucks before watching, now I have some understanding I am sure with a little knowledge I can be quite dangerous.
Awesome as always! Maybe worth a mention that many smaller lathes, particularly of the precision bench type, have integral collet tapers in the spindle, eliminating the need for a collet chuck.
Man, your hilaruous, love your videos and you ' re dry humor. What I think is funny is that i used to want to eccentric machine every thing, in a 4 jaw, and get a dividing mechanism on a tail stock so you could make, like, eccentric spiral staircases, just how artfully can Manuel machining get, ya know. now I just appreciate being able to make accurate simple parts.
i only do metal work at school and this man makes it look like a baby could do it inspires so fucking much i love his content he could get a paper sheet and talk about it then some how still make it entertaining
I didn't read all the comments so someone may have answered already. They do make square ER collets. Good video. I learned almost nothing, but I like to review stuff to keep things I'll never use again sharp and you're easy to watch.
My metal lathe is a bit older. It has a finished surface and a threaded spindle. The face plate(s), Four and Three jaw thread on and seat on the finished surface. I also have the double angle Collets and Morse 4 head-stock. When I took delivery from Dad, I had the 3-jaw a bit out more than expected. I found the chuck was threaded on with small strips of brass in the threads and on on the finished surface. This canted the chuck and imposed the error. I cleaned the spindle and then looked at the chuck. It was full of chips also. Many years of chips found their way into the chuck. I checked the numbers and extracted the jaws and was able to clean and lube the spiral. Naturally, the 4 jaw was like new as were the face plates. I added the nice Collet and much more. What I learned was to buy as good as I could because I might upgrade the mill or lathe and would keep the quality options. I enjoy the lathe that Dad and I bought together in the basement of a massive hardware store in 1952. I used it yesterday. I hope someone will look at their chucks and find the error they chased.
I wish you would become a machinery teacher, I absolutely love your videos and I'd be more than willing to set through your classes and do projects together
I watched this 4 or 5 times already and just bought a Lathe and although I know exactly what I want and have 2 chucks already you bet I'm gonna watch this again :D
I am in the process of making a back plate for a 5C collet chuck for my 10" LeBlonde. I was hoping this video would be a very timely gift from heaven... a God-send. It wasn't so much of a God-send, but I still enjoyed seeing how beat up your center was! BTW I wish I had a keyed spindle so I could thread in reverse like the big boys. :-(
Hi Tony. New subscriber here. I am working toward getting a lathe. Still learning a lot. I found your video, so far the easiest to understand and therefor the most helpful. Thank You.
Right now my lathe is wearing a taper adaptor right in the nose which features a BT30 / 30 INT / SK30 internal taper as I am making a new touch-probe mount for the milling machine. (Due to historical reasons my milling machine is 30 INT on the horizontal and SK30 / BT30 on the vertical). If you find yourself making milling-spindle tooling often then I think that it's an attachment worth having. I also have two 3-jaw chucks. One wears inside jaws, the other wears outside jaws. It's quicker to change chucks than change jaws. (and leaves me the option of changing jaws if I need to leave something in the chuck). I have also made an adaptor for my milling machine dividing head that takes the same chucks as the lathe (I am D1-4 all over now) so that I can easily transfer work. And one other point, I managed to find a driving centre on eBay. That's a headstock-end centre with a set of drive dogs, a bit like they have on woodworking lathes. The inner centre point and drive dogs are linked (hydraulically or just with a viscous rubber) and that allows you to machine the entire outside surface of a shaft in one setup. They mar the shaft end, but in practice, who cares? There are also internal and external step-chucks. These are pulled up by a collet tube as normal but use a closer-ring or expander cone. This is a set for a Holbrook lathe. photos.app.goo.gl/YLkjdYjnZ1wcmdrM2 (I covet them, they belong to someone else)
In a bundle Tony, you are hilarious as all get out (your poor family..haha), your knowledge; extremely thorough, your ability to convey that knowledge is as good as it gets. If you lived close by, you'd have to block me on your phone as I'd be picking your brain 24/7. Keep these awesome and informative video’s coming, n Thanks. JP
Tony, one thing i noticed about people that talk about 3 jaw chucks, is that they don’t repeat accurately. If your three jaw chuck has three pinions, only one which is sometime marked, will be the only one that will have close repeatability. It is called the nominated pinion, and it was the only one used when the chuck jaws were originally ground. You can find this information one line from chuck manufacturers. Some claim there 3 jaw chucks have .001 repeatability, but only when using the nominated pinion.
Fantastic work Tony thank you - CHUCKled all the way through ! I've been (hobby) machining for a long time, but only recently bought a lathe and found out everything you said in the video the hard way ! As for your comments about editing, I've posted a few videos myself where my arms are in shot (but not in your league) and now have a special T-shirt set aside to keep continuity as a 10 minute video can take several days / a week to film.
I found one of those Pratt and Burnerd chucks used for ridiculously cheap a while ago. However, my Lathe has a D1-8 Camlock Spindle. I've been trying to wrap my head around coming up with a mounting plate that doesn't look completely ridiculous ever since
Nicely done Tony. My big take away here was the fact that a 3 jaw chuck run out can vary with the diameter of the stock chucked up. Never considered it but the scroll dimensions can definitely vary.. Cool fact.... Thanks for sharing
Thanks for the information. I just bought a SHARS for my Logan 821. After some work on the back plate it is OK. Haven't gone to collets yet. Keep the videos coming...........
Some have a lever to change feed rates but only Tony has a lever to change chucks... must have gotten it installed during his time travel adventure. Nice work.
I love my Shars 4 jaw scroll chuck so much that I want to upgrade my old 4 jaw independent to a 4 jaw independent Shars. Those things are 3x the mass, with 50% deeper jaws than the old ones. Crazy stout. Really well made.
Tony, I was using my lathe chuck to hold work that I was tapping to 7/8 14. My chuck hole is 3/4" I accidentally ran the tap through and tapped about 1/4" of my chuck. Hahahahaha. BUT it turned out to be a fortuitous mistake. I use my mini lathe mostly for making reloading dies from 7/8 14 bolts. Usually just wrapping some aluminum or copper around the threads and chuckin it up. Now I can screw part of it into the chuck first...makes it work better. Yay!
I have, in my glory box,an eight inch three jaw self centreing scroll chuck. The big difference is that built into the jaws are independent jaws, as per four jaw chuck, with adjusting screws to either offset the job or to centre it as required. It would be handy for doing eccentric work, but I have not used it in over twenty years. The 'screw type' jaws are reversible as in a normal four jaw chuck.
Always one step ahead that Tony is. Very good video Tony. Sock puppets make machinery seem less intimidating. You should have left them in, it's the method my wife used to teach me the basics. :-) Thanks for all the hard work Tony. Steve Summers
I recently got a Invertech221 with water cooler. All the same as yours. Cool machine. Noisy water cooler , how to quiet it down? Remove fan blades, not much reduction. Insulation? Double housing? Electric fan, thermostat switch? Would really. Like to mellow it out. ideas? Have a syncrowave 250. Much quieter. Might be project ?
Tony, For use newbies to the gobble can you make a video on how to effectively center on a 4-jaw chuck using the gauge reader. And also how to angle the cutting tool so it cuts a taper, and potentially turning a spherical contour. I appreciate your help
Round my house, Chuck is the 3 jaw (horseshoes n' hand grenades), Bruce is the 4 jaw (Power and precision), and Ip Man is the collets (Speed, Precision & wisdom). And My spindles innocence is always clean and protected by using sock puppets. Thanks for the fun and lurnin, Tony! Today is Trifecta Day....a Tony, Chris and a Mr. Pete, OH My I may melt down and run in my shoes!! ~PJ
@ 5:35...could you please post a link to where you get that quick change mechanism between the three types of chucks? I don't even lathe but I still want it (will it work with girlfriends?)
You are welcome. BTW FYI you have costed me a lot of my money and my first born child, as I got into metal works since I started watching your videos 😆
Your correct about 5C collets in needing lots of them BUT they're almost THE universal holding device for everything in the shop for up to 1 1/16" (27mm) Diameters. Lathes for work holding, mills have many indexing work holding fixtures, grinder fixtures, drill presses, belt sanders, almost any machine can fixtured up for them. 3&4 jaws not very easily and they're cumbersome to use. We're not including Abom79 sized work... altough there *are* 6" collets available if you want to spend the big bucks....😄
Great video as always. You mentioned never having seen flex collets for square stock. They exist, i have some. Just thought i would throw that out there. You do great work , thanks for sharing.
Anyone else eating when he removed the 3 jaw and spit food out? I knew something was going to happen, but totally got hit unawares. Very well done. Still chuckling about that one.
It's been many years(45) since I was in Metal shop in high school. But 2 months ago I scored on a 1940 or 41 Reed - Prentice 16" x 80" lathe.My problem is the finish on my parts are really rough. I tried to Feed the carriage as slow as I can and it rough. as fast as it goes and it's still rough Max rpm on this lathe is 965 and 50 is the slowest. I'm running my tools as centered as I can get. I tried to make threads yesterday and they came out really rough also. Any wisdom you can pass on . Thank you Daniel G. Homa Retired and in the shop putzing...
You mentioned it briefly, but what is your opinion on four jaw scroll chucks? Personal opinion, and I know it's controversial, I'd rather take a four jaw scroll chuck than a three jaw, simply because they can accommodate square stock.
Good point, never really thought about it (never used a 4 jaw scroll). Thinking out loud, they couldn't hold hex stock, though. I'm afraid you're going to have to collect them all, S&L!
I have a 4 jaw scroll chuck on my Schaublin and I generally like it except for as Tony mentioned hexagon stock. There is much debate in the chuck world over how well the 4 jaw scroll grips material. Since the jaws are directly in line with each other some feel the 4 jaw scroll doesn't grip as evenly on all 4 of the jaws like a 3 jaw does. So in some cases only 2 of the 4 jaws grip properly.
Indeed, that's part of the controversy I speak of. Personally, I've never had a problem with it, but I also don't really care about taking the deepest, most aggressive cut I possibly can, so work holding has never really been an issue.
I'm sorry Ton', but the correct answer to "what's your favourite chuck" is always "Norris". Just in case.
You should definitely engage squints when dealing with any "Norris" style Chuck. Safety Third! I mean First.
Fact: Chuck Norris doesn't need a laithe. Once the work is centered in Chucks hand, out of fear for it's own existence, it becomes whatever he wants it to be.
@@thomasdickson35 prefer Chuck steak
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@@thomasdickson35 WTH!!?? You can't have a Chuck Heston!!?? Sheesh!!?! 🤔😲🙄🤣🤣🤣
well it's a lathe ruclips.net/user/postUgkxN9zrzkkhnjUF5PQbuA_B1gYdsfCu9k6z but it wasn't what i would have anticipated. Headstock, tailstock, carriage apron are manufactured from aluminum now not cast iron. The spindle diameter for the bearings is too small allowing for a few play in the spindle so I am using some blue Loctite to take out the play.
There really needs to be an Academy awards equivalent for RUclips channels / videos. I was entertained, amused and learned something, thanks Tony!
thanks Ward!
We watched one of your videos in class the other day. Came home and subbed. This guy knows his stuff.
nice!
wait.. unless it was some kind of film school and a 'what not to do' demonstration.
Late Sunday morning, the house is quiet, a second cup of tea, a little more toast and a video about chucks.
Livin the dream.
life sure can be good...
I'm watching this video for exactly two reasons. #1 the amount and quality of information #2 your very unique and refreshing humour!!!
Hahahaha, I actually spit out my ice scream laughing at the blurred lathe. You're the best, This O. Tony.
I was eating a Taco Bell Empanada. About choked. Old Tony strikes again. :D
That and how they all look different, and that's normal.
Damnit, man, I woke up my wife when I started laughing. :)) was it a hole or a shaft that was blurred? Both?!
Keeping it pg
I pooped my pants, having loose motions laughing at his jokes. Tony strikes again 😆
I want to see the handpuppets !!!
After I discovered that the runout on my 3-jaw was up to 6 thou, I started using my 4-jaw more and more. For the first few weeks it was really frustrating, but then I got a little system working and I found it to be almost relaxing. There is a sense of accomplishment of getting a part centered in the 4-jaw to better than a half a thou. I haven't seen my 3-jaw for a year or so.
it feels like that deserves a "That's what she said."
have a good at a very small Shipyard I once worked at my labor was the one and only machinist he was from Haiti.
He had a problem with people coming in and using his lathes.
Then he took all the three jaw Chuck's and stuffed them in the Attic
7:57 "spot on" if metric. Oh man... I loved everything about this video. Thank you!
Thanks, Tony. I feel like you talk to us first-graders really well with these machining basics videos. As a guy who's just getting ready to dip his toe into machine work (I'm mostly a dead tree carcass guy), these vids are extremely helpful to me.
I can learn machining from anyone. I'm here for your outstanding comedic timing. Thanks for the laughs.
Your videos are timeless and a huge help! I keep discovering more of them every day. Thanks so much for taking the time to share your knowledge
I restored an old atlas lathe and ive been going back throw your old videos trying to figure out how to use it. Your videos are such an incredible collection of knowledge
I'm not a machinist, nor do I own a lathe, however I do enjoy expanding my knowledge, mostly though it's the witty humor that brings me back to these videos.
You know, if your chuck is too inaccurate for the Energy Domes, you need to whip it...into shape.
And whip it good.
...and shape it up. To get it straight.
Go forward please, move ahead - it's not too late.
Before the cream sits out too long...
Let's just "move ahead , go forward. Because it's not to late. To whip it .
Great content as always. Only one gaping hole in this storyline, Tony. Adjustable backplate chucks. They can make a three jaw run on center, but only because they are effectively a four jaw on one side with a three jaw on the other.
I suppose Clickspring would include the cyanoacrylate chuck on the list. 😎
Thomas Utley I was thinking about that as well. CA glue and clickspring. Haven't seen anything from him in ages it seems.
courier11sec He's been busy marking off the progression of the sunset each evening, then inverting the results for Australia to check the Antikythera Mechanism's math for the northern hemisphere!
Thomas Utley It's pronounced, "Supahglue ahbah."
Isn't that what they say in Boston? :)
time to do some GRAVING on the S U P E R G L U E A R B O R
You have such a specific type of humor and it's so rewarding when I actually start to understand
Your videos are always a treat.
Always great. Love the pixelated spindle nose. My south bend is modest too
Jim
I agree but he showed the "full montie" later in the video. LOL Great video..
Fred Miller how did that get past RUclips? Maybe because of the artistic nature?!
Impressive how many subscribers you got since I subscribed.
Please keep the great work up! The jokes in your videos always make my day while I learn something new at the same time.
Don't for one second think that your contribution is going unnoticed.
I have no knowledge of machine shop stuff and will never be a machine shop guy, still I love your videos. Your sense of humor and editing is just pure gold. Your videos give me a good time and I learn new things I will probably never put into practice.
Anyway, just wanted to say Hi and thank you.
I love those automatic chuck changers on the old lathes, don't make em like they used to!!
@Robert Slackware lol
Please don't take this the wrong way, but that was the most interesting boring discussion on chucks. I loved it! I MUST be a tool geek. Love your stuff. Looking forward to the next one.
thanks Chris!
I enjoyed this! The jokes actually made me chuckle! Love the devo reference!I've been retired for 5 years. Make stuff on my lathe all the time. The other day I thought I needed a bigger 3 jaw forgetting that there is a never used large four jaw in a box under the lathe. This was 6 years ago so I hope you're still turning! 😁
Good stuff always
Im not going to "ignore that part you didnt see"
Im going to be highly critical of it.
1.It felt like it went by way too fast and almost like It was gone before I wad able to digest any of the information
2. I was really diggin that interpretive dance number you and your cats did.
3. There was wayy too much stuff you left out for me. Maybe your more experience viewers dont need all the hand holding but to me the information seemed a bit empy.
Got a good chuckle out of that video :)
I would stay away from ER for workholding in the lathe, it is relatively annoying because you cant hold very short parts without a filler-piece in the collet.
You left the allimportant magnetic lathe chuck out :(
Yes you need a filler / plug. Especially in the Pratt flex collets.
I do not own a mag chuck for the lathe. They are foreign to me therefore I fear them.
Do not fear the magnet!
This Old Tony that turn of phrase is funny coming from an expat.
I find it amazing that Stephane uses a 3jaw and simply loosens the backplate and centers the work with an indicator. I've never seen anyone do that, but he makes it work well. So that basically destroys Tony's position that the 3jaw can't do accurate work holding. I think they need to step outside and settle this like men, with chuck keys. Last man standing. They should probably settle the magnetic chuck question at the same time.
Stefan that mag-chuck makes me a strange combination of nervous and jealous at the same time. :)
The best vids on Utube. Even if I don't give a fuck about the content, it's still enjoyable to watch.
You really have a great speaking voice and are an excellent storyteller. Thoroughly enjoyable, real gold.
I love your timing in editing. The way you edit your narration. It's just too good.
Picking only one, and without sampling all the other gems that will surely follow, @2:24 ... abso/it depends is priceless, and refreshes my appreciation of TOT and my enjoyment of the exhilarating dangerous-waterslide experience his videos demand as payment.
How much lathe could a lathe chuck chuck if a lathe chuck could chuck lathes.
probably a lot.
...aaaaand now I want to see AvE put a lathe IN a chuck...
Depends how good your spindle brake is. I forgot to take the brake off once and the lathe screwed its way half way through the wall before I could stop it. 12tpi Whitworth, as I recall.
Eleventeen bruh
Well I'm on to you Tony!
Everyone else have a theory about the pixelated part, but I think it was because you didn't want us to see how bad of shape your spindle was before you cleaned it ! 😆
All in all some good basic info ! 👍 👍
Thanks for sharing and take care.
Sir, I dont own a leathe and i am not planning to own one, but your videos are pure gold and I dont wana miss any of them, you have that art of explaining complicated things with such a smooth and easy way, I love it :)
Good discussion on chucks, the next one on Bob. Thanks for sharing.
I don't have any bobs for my lathe! :(
As a newbie to lathes I found this video welcome, fun, interesting and answering a lot of questions I didn't know I had. I had not a clue about chucks before watching, now I have some understanding I am sure with a little knowledge I can be quite dangerous.
Glad to hear it Alex!
Our Pugs really enjoyed this video! By the way, you are an excellent instructor and this is from a retired instructor! Please carry on!!
Awesome as always! Maybe worth a mention that many smaller lathes, particularly of the precision bench type, have integral collet tapers in the spindle, eliminating the need for a collet chuck.
I didn't know that.
This Old Tony My Hjorths and Rivett all take 4NS / 5NS collets directly in the spindle. :-)
As always ... i was in a hurry skipping the ad to watch your video, but this time i caught myself doing it ... never again ... awesome content!
Man, your hilaruous, love your videos and you ' re dry humor. What I think is funny is that i used to want to eccentric machine every thing, in a 4 jaw, and get a dividing mechanism on a tail stock so you could make, like, eccentric spiral staircases, just how artfully can Manuel machining get, ya know. now I just appreciate being able to make accurate simple parts.
Why I love this channel this Tony is a wealth of knowledge, a friggin encyclopedia if you will
07:01 thanks for the metric!
and again and again: Extreemly interesting! You're our teacher!
God-Damn it Tony. I was just about to go to bed.
Just Power Electronics No kidding, I woke the wife from laughing at Tony's superb humor.
How rude of me. I'll try to be more considerate next time, I promise. :)
By the way.... when ya getting a Patreon? TAKE MY MONEY
A three jaw chuck makes a dandy Christmas tree stand.
The best tip I have ever gotten from This old Tony Video's
Another great video. You have the gift of explaining things in a comfortable, funny, and understandable manner.
Again thanks!
i only do metal work at school and this man makes it look like a baby could do it inspires so fucking much i love his content he could get a paper sheet and talk about it then some how still make it entertaining
The basics is the best way to get a good feel for workers!
Thanks
still liking this channel. thanks this old Tony....
I enjoy your videos. Your a very intelligent fella with great sense of humor
Seen them all, liked them all, please make more.
thanks! more coming right up!
I didn't read all the comments so someone may have answered already. They do make square ER collets. Good video. I learned almost nothing, but I like to review stuff to keep things I'll never use again sharp and you're easy to watch.
It's always such a treat when I see you've uploaded something.
I hope you're able to do more soon!
My metal lathe is a bit older. It has a finished surface and a threaded spindle. The face plate(s), Four and Three jaw thread on and seat on the finished surface. I also have the double angle Collets and Morse 4 head-stock. When I took delivery from Dad, I had the 3-jaw a bit out more than expected. I found the chuck was threaded on with small strips of brass in the threads and on on the finished surface. This canted the chuck and imposed the error. I cleaned the spindle and then looked at the chuck. It was full of chips also. Many years of chips found their way into the chuck. I checked the numbers and extracted the jaws and was able to clean and lube the spiral. Naturally, the 4 jaw was like new as were the face plates. I added the nice Collet and much more. What I learned was to buy as good as I could because I might upgrade the mill or lathe and would keep the quality options. I enjoy the lathe that Dad and I bought together in the basement of a massive hardware store in 1952. I used it yesterday. I hope someone will look at their chucks and find the error they chased.
These videos are never boring- even though I don't understand 51% of what you're talking about... and that's down from 90%.
That's awesome. I was a lathe operator for about 2 years. It was fun, I hit my thumb like 20 times.
I wish you would become a machinery teacher, I absolutely love your videos and I'd be more than willing to set through your classes and do projects together
I just woke up...and u just made my day!
Thanks,man.
Stay classy.
I watched this 4 or 5 times already and just bought a Lathe and although I know exactly what I want and have 2 chucks already you bet I'm gonna watch this again
:D
Well here I am.
How much metal could a metal chuck chuck if a metal chuck could chuck metal?
I need a tee shirt that says "dead nuts (spot on if metric)"
Thanks for the insight and the laughs. Most appreciated.
I need to get me one of those chuck swap levers...
Sorry, I missed what you said about repeatability.
those two dislikes are from the three jaw chucks
Do two of the jaw chucks share an account?
Hold on just a minute. That same switch on the lathe time travels and changes chucks?
not yet, but in the future it does.
How do you know what mode it's in ?
He's just rapidly traveling time to where the next chuck is intalled
The red lever = time travel.
Small black lever = auto chuck changer.
and yes, they should've really put them farther apart.
You can get ER collets for square stock. We have a set at work but no one I now has ever used them.
And Harold Hall has an excellent set of instructions online for making insertable jaws to hold square stock in a round collet
I am in the process of making a back plate for a 5C collet chuck for my 10" LeBlonde. I was hoping this video would be a very timely gift from heaven... a God-send. It wasn't so much of a God-send, but I still enjoyed seeing how beat up your center was! BTW I wish I had a keyed spindle so I could thread in reverse like the big boys. :-(
Hi Tony. New subscriber here. I am working toward getting a lathe. Still learning a lot. I found your video, so far the easiest to understand and therefor the most helpful. Thank You.
my pleasure HH and happy to have you. have fun / be safe!
Right now my lathe is wearing a taper adaptor right in the nose which features a BT30 / 30 INT / SK30 internal taper as I am making a new touch-probe mount for the milling machine. (Due to historical reasons my milling machine is 30 INT on the horizontal and SK30 / BT30 on the vertical). If you find yourself making milling-spindle tooling often then I think that it's an attachment worth having.
I also have two 3-jaw chucks. One wears inside jaws, the other wears outside jaws. It's quicker to change chucks than change jaws. (and leaves me the option of changing jaws if I need to leave something in the chuck).
I have also made an adaptor for my milling machine dividing head that takes the same chucks as the lathe (I am D1-4 all over now) so that I can easily transfer work.
And one other point, I managed to find a driving centre on eBay. That's a headstock-end centre with a set of drive dogs, a bit like they have on woodworking lathes. The inner centre point and drive dogs are linked (hydraulically or just with a viscous rubber) and that allows you to machine the entire outside surface of a shaft in one setup. They mar the shaft end, but in practice, who cares?
There are also internal and external step-chucks. These are pulled up by a collet tube as normal but use a closer-ring or expander cone. This is a set for a Holbrook lathe. photos.app.goo.gl/YLkjdYjnZ1wcmdrM2 (I covet them, they belong to someone else)
In a bundle Tony, you are hilarious as all get out (your poor family..haha), your knowledge; extremely thorough, your ability to convey that knowledge is as good as it gets. If you lived close by, you'd have to block me on your phone as I'd be picking your brain 24/7. Keep these awesome and informative video’s coming, n Thanks. JP
Tony, one thing i noticed about people that talk about 3 jaw chucks, is that they don’t repeat accurately. If your three jaw chuck has three pinions, only one which is sometime marked, will be the only one that will have close repeatability. It is called the nominated pinion, and it was the only one used when the chuck jaws were originally ground. You can find this information one line from chuck manufacturers. Some claim there 3 jaw chucks have .001 repeatability, but only when using the nominated pinion.
You said the four jaw chuck is nice because it's flexible. Shouldn't a good chuck be rigid? 😉
Your earthling language confuses me.
This Old Tony Pardon my French but, un mandrin peut il être à la fois flexible et rigide?
A good chuck should be Norris
Fantastic work Tony thank you - CHUCKled all the way through !
I've been (hobby) machining for a long time, but only recently bought a lathe and found out everything you said in the video the hard way !
As for your comments about editing, I've posted a few videos myself where my arms are in shot (but not in your league) and now have a special T-shirt set aside to keep continuity as a 10 minute video can take several days / a week to film.
Never quit your style of humor.
"Ignore that part you didn't see." LMAO. I am not a machinist and don't have a workshop, but I love Tony's videos and enjoy learning what he teaches.
I found one of those Pratt and Burnerd chucks used for ridiculously cheap a while ago.
However, my Lathe has a D1-8 Camlock Spindle.
I've been trying to wrap my head around coming up with a mounting plate that doesn't look completely ridiculous ever since
The way you pronounced "Three-Jaw-Chuck" fit that pixelated lathe perfectly.
Nicely done Tony. My big take away here was the fact that a 3 jaw chuck run out can vary with the diameter of the stock chucked up. Never considered it but the scroll dimensions can definitely vary.. Cool fact.... Thanks for sharing
My pleasure Fred thanks for watching.
Thanks for the information. I just bought a SHARS for my Logan 821. After some work on the back plate it is OK. Haven't gone to collets yet. Keep the videos coming...........
Some have a lever to change feed rates but only Tony has a lever to change chucks... must have gotten it installed during his time travel adventure. Nice work.
Thanks for pixelating that orifice. I’m watching with my son here, and frankly, I was quite worried there for a moment.
Jokes are so subtle, that I usually start laughing 5 seconds later
I love my Shars 4 jaw scroll chuck so much that I want to upgrade my old 4 jaw independent to a 4 jaw independent Shars. Those things are 3x the mass, with 50% deeper jaws than the old ones. Crazy stout. Really well made.
Your editing is always on point. Your videos crack me up. Lol keep them coming.
THANK YOU! That video answered a lot of my questions. A superb declarative work.
Tony, I was using my lathe chuck to hold work that I was tapping to 7/8 14. My chuck hole is 3/4" I accidentally ran the tap through and tapped about 1/4" of my chuck. Hahahahaha. BUT it turned out to be a fortuitous mistake. I use my mini lathe mostly for making reloading dies from 7/8 14 bolts. Usually just wrapping some aluminum or copper around the threads and chuckin it up. Now I can screw part of it into the chuck first...makes it work better. Yay!
I have, in my glory box,an eight inch three jaw self centreing scroll chuck. The big difference is that built into the jaws are independent jaws, as per four jaw chuck, with adjusting screws to either offset the job or to centre it as required. It would be handy for doing eccentric work, but I have not used it in over twenty years. The 'screw type' jaws are reversible as in a normal four jaw chuck.
I have one that is 170 lbs. sSS stamped on it. can't find much info. compound chuck I was told.
Always one step ahead that Tony is. Very good video Tony. Sock puppets make machinery seem less intimidating. You should have left them in, it's the method my wife used to teach me the basics. :-) Thanks for all the hard work Tony. Steve Summers
I watch all these over and over again. And always have a laugh. :)
I recently got a Invertech221 with water cooler. All the same as yours. Cool machine. Noisy water cooler , how to quiet it down? Remove fan blades, not much reduction. Insulation? Double housing? Electric fan, thermostat switch? Would really. Like to mellow it out. ideas? Have a syncrowave 250. Much quieter. Might be project ?
Tony,
For use newbies to the gobble can you make a video on how to effectively center on a 4-jaw chuck using the gauge reader. And also how to angle the cutting tool so it cuts a taper, and potentially turning a spherical contour. I appreciate your help
Eri mendez+ There's already tons of videos by several people on those subjects. Have a look for tubalcain vids, they're an educational series.
Round my house, Chuck is the 3 jaw (horseshoes n' hand grenades), Bruce is the 4 jaw (Power and precision), and Ip Man is the collets (Speed, Precision & wisdom). And My spindles innocence is always clean and protected by using sock puppets. Thanks for the fun and lurnin, Tony! Today is Trifecta Day....a Tony, Chris and a Mr. Pete, OH My I may melt down and run in my shoes!! ~PJ
@ 5:35...could you please post a link to where you get that quick change mechanism between the three types of chucks? I don't even lathe but I still want it (will it work with girlfriends?)
You are welcome.
BTW FYI you have costed me a lot of my money and my first born child, as I got into metal works since I started watching your videos 😆
Your correct about 5C collets in needing lots of them BUT they're almost THE universal holding device for everything in the shop for up to 1 1/16" (27mm) Diameters. Lathes for work holding, mills have many indexing work holding fixtures, grinder fixtures, drill presses, belt sanders, almost any machine can fixtured up for them. 3&4 jaws not very easily and they're cumbersome to use. We're not including Abom79 sized work... altough there *are* 6" collets available if you want to spend the big bucks....😄
Great video as always. You mentioned never having seen flex collets for square stock. They exist, i have some. Just thought i would throw that out there. You do great work , thanks for sharing.
I freaking lost it when you protected your lathe's tender parts with the pixelization.
Anyone else eating when he removed the 3 jaw and spit food out? I knew something was going to happen, but totally got hit unawares. Very well done. Still chuckling about that one.
It's been many years(45) since I was in Metal shop in high school. But 2 months ago I scored on a 1940 or 41 Reed - Prentice 16" x 80" lathe.My problem is the finish on my parts are really rough. I tried to Feed the carriage as slow as I can and it rough. as fast as it goes and it's still rough Max rpm on this lathe is 965 and 50 is the slowest. I'm running my tools as centered as I can get. I tried to make threads yesterday and they came out really rough also. Any wisdom you can pass on . Thank you Daniel G. Homa Retired and in the shop putzing...
You mentioned it briefly, but what is your opinion on four jaw scroll chucks? Personal opinion, and I know it's controversial, I'd rather take a four jaw scroll chuck than a three jaw, simply because they can accommodate square stock.
Good point, never really thought about it (never used a 4 jaw scroll). Thinking out loud, they couldn't hold hex stock, though. I'm afraid you're going to have to collect them all, S&L!
Gosh darnit! I'm running out of space in my backpack with all these chucks, collets, McMaster-Carr catalogs and lifetime supply of Tang!
skip 4 and go to 6!
I have a 4 jaw scroll chuck on my Schaublin and I generally like it except for as Tony mentioned hexagon stock. There is much debate in the chuck world over how well the 4 jaw scroll grips material. Since the jaws are directly in line with each other some feel the 4 jaw scroll doesn't grip as evenly on all 4 of the jaws like a 3 jaw does. So in some cases only 2 of the 4 jaws grip properly.
Indeed, that's part of the controversy I speak of. Personally, I've never had a problem with it, but I also don't really care about taking the deepest, most aggressive cut I possibly can, so work holding has never really been an issue.