When Influence Outweighs Success: How Phonte, Roc Marciano, and Others Shaped Hip Hop

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  • Опубликовано: 7 янв 2025

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  • @Stvn3200
    @Stvn3200 3 месяца назад +10

    Ppl also sleep on the fact that even though these artists never saw “mainstream” success..they made a living off of rap. If no one heard of me and I made $100k+ rapping that’s still success versus a regular job.

  • @ebonywhite1388
    @ebonywhite1388 3 месяца назад +10

    Roc's album, "Behold, A Dark Horse," is one of the greatest projects I've ever heard. Phonte sings, raps, produces. Literally the most underrated guy in the game.

  • @kennymac8391
    @kennymac8391 3 месяца назад +21

    ROC Marciano birth this era period 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @leonessbutterfly8813
    @leonessbutterfly8813 3 месяца назад +18

    This my kinda comtent frfr the underground underdog. Your rapper's favorite rapper.

  • @leonessbutterfly8813
    @leonessbutterfly8813 3 месяца назад +12

    NC STAND UUUUUPPP! PHONTEEEEEE! WHAADDUUUPP

    • @hiphopbakery
      @hiphopbakery  3 месяца назад

      I'm a Georgia boy but was stationed in NC for 8 years (USMC). Much love for NC!

  • @billyjones-1996
    @billyjones-1996 3 месяца назад +9

    Roc Marci my favourite current MC. Reloaded is a classic -- Rosebudd's Revenge, Elephant Man's Bones and Marcielago some of the best rap albums of the last few years (and the project he produced for Stove God is tight as well).

    • @hiphopbakery
      @hiphopbakery  3 месяца назад

      Yea he’s definitely ahead of his time and super underrated 💯. I’ve got to check out that Stove God project.

    • @Frank-ur9ny
      @Frank-ur9ny 3 месяца назад

      Very understated statement

  • @BlackedOutBoy
    @BlackedOutBoy 3 месяца назад +3

    Subbed bro. I assumed without looking you had tens of thousands already with how polished the presentation was. Roc is in my Pantheon of rap Gods, and Little Brother got me through some shit!

    • @hiphopbakery
      @hiphopbakery  3 месяца назад +1

      I appreciate the sub fam 🙏🏾💯

  • @brentoniverson1020
    @brentoniverson1020 3 месяца назад +2

    Two of my fav MC's 🎤💪🏿🎤💪🏿🎤💪🏿🏃‍♂️💪🏿🎤💪🏿

  • @moabiphiri9423
    @moabiphiri9423 3 месяца назад +3

    Roc is beyond legendary🔥🔥🔥

  • @kincamell2
    @kincamell2 3 месяца назад +4

    Gratitude.
    Peace to Cee Lo and The Dungeon Fam

    • @hiphopbakery
      @hiphopbakery  3 месяца назад

      Goodie Mob’s Soul Food is one of my favorite albums of all time. I’ll be covering them soon🫡💯.

  • @ANineOne
    @ANineOne 3 месяца назад +8

    Masta Ace is a real good one. Him and Eminem. People like Phonte and Ace, I like that Drake and Em highlighted their influence - they weren't biting, you can hear the influence, but it's not copycatting. I think more rappers were influenced by underground artists like this but simply don't say! I like that Drake and Em highlighted where they come from, it's how I heard about Ace and Phonte, and I'm sure it's how many others discovered those artists too

    • @hiphopbakery
      @hiphopbakery  3 месяца назад +3

      Totally agree! Masta Ace and Phonte’s influence runs deep. It’s refreshing when artists like Drake and Eminem openly acknowledge their inspirations rather than pretending they created everything from scratch. It gives those legends the flowers they deserve while also educating a new generation of listeners. Their influence is undeniable, but it’s always good to see that respect put on their name for paving the way!💯

    • @jdiezmc
      @jdiezmc 3 месяца назад +1

      ​@@hiphopbakeryJust discovered your channel a few days ago. I love your content! Keep it coming!

  • @jchris333
    @jchris333 3 месяца назад +1

    THANK GOD FOR ROC MARCI

  • @whois5thlettah
    @whois5thlettah 3 месяца назад +1

    This is great content w/ excellent points being made.

    • @hiphopbakery
      @hiphopbakery  3 месяца назад

      Thank you for watching🙏🏾💯

  • @LevurfLevurf
    @LevurfLevurf 3 месяца назад +1

    Roc Marci 🐐

  • @Open-MindedSkeptic
    @Open-MindedSkeptic 3 месяца назад +1

    I first heard Drake on a Little Brother song featuring Dwele. That's only one of 3 songs I like from Drake. Little Brother is in my top 5 rap groups of all time.

  • @M2TisI
    @M2TisI 3 месяца назад +2

    The real hip hop madness is back

  • @bigbtechproductions
    @bigbtechproductions 3 месяца назад +1

    Clicking on this video I thought it was the other brand, but I was pleasantly surprised! Keep the great work up!

    • @hiphopbakery
      @hiphopbakery  3 месяца назад

      Appreciate that a lot fam, be sure and subscribe, more on the way🙏🏾💯

    • @bigbtechproductions
      @bigbtechproductions 3 месяца назад

      @@hiphopbakery definitely got a subscriber about if me. I also watched the other video about ROC Marciano, didn’t even know! 🔥🔥🔥

  • @MC_Smuv
    @MC_Smuv 3 месяца назад +5

    Tyler didn't achieve massive success til later in his career??? When Odd Future hit the scene that shit was an international phenomenon instantly!
    Also: You forgot about KA. Can't say Roc without KA.

  • @Justice098
    @Justice098 3 месяца назад +2

    Little brother was on drakes first album before young money. Ppl need to put respect on drakes name too. He was on the underground in Toronto for years and did a lot of music with underground artist and producers in Canada

  • @prosperbenjamin84
    @prosperbenjamin84 3 месяца назад

    Talk about how Ka is so organic and nostalgic.

    • @hiphopbakery
      @hiphopbakery  3 месяца назад

      I plan to cover Ka in the future 💯

  • @williamrodrigues5947
    @williamrodrigues5947 3 месяца назад

    A indústria simplesmente escolhe quem ela quer…. Phonte é um ótimo liricista é um ótimo produtor… mas a cultura reconhece sua extrema importância pro cenário musical….

  • @milicevicgospodin
    @milicevicgospodin 3 месяца назад +3

    I'm pretty certain Phonte used to write for Drake. At least "collaborated" on songs. While there's no concrete proof of this, Drake has changed his sound, cadence, writing style, erc. too much throughout the years that I believe that he had a team creating songs for him since the beginning. Phonte is truly underated these days too. Hope that changes.

    • @jfraz1992
      @jfraz1992 3 месяца назад +3

      Drake have done songs with little brother on come back season look it up

  • @Tigercam24
    @Tigercam24 3 месяца назад +1

    Dope video bro. When we talk about Hip-Hop pioneers, there are so many unsung heros consistently being left off the list. And to amswer your question, in my opinion, influence is always more important than popularity. Niggas from the UK, India, Mexico, Canada, etc. STILL tryna rap like Project Pat ... can we say the same some of the the consensus titans like Jay Z? Not in my opinion

    • @hiphopbakery
      @hiphopbakery  3 месяца назад +1

      Great point! Shout out Project Pat!💯

  • @prosperbenjamin84
    @prosperbenjamin84 3 месяца назад +2

    Listen to what Eve said in her current interview with the breakfast club. You don’t wanna dive deep into this industry that cares less about your mental health.

  • @timewaster-te4ur
    @timewaster-te4ur 3 месяца назад +1

    Great video and thumbnail

  • @mel-bp1kp
    @mel-bp1kp 3 месяца назад +1

    Elzhi should also be credited for Draks style because Phonte was inspired by Slum Village.Also Common created an Album like TPAB by Kendrick his is Like water for chocolate and the big 3 sound like him as well to me.

    • @hiphopbakery
      @hiphopbakery  3 месяца назад

      You make a great point! 💯Elzhi and Slum Village definitely had a huge impact, and Phonte’s connection to that Detroit sound can’t be overlooked.

  • @ThePsychicFish
    @ThePsychicFish 3 месяца назад +2

    This is really interesting... A while ago i stumbled onto the instrumental of The Answer by The Foreign Exhange, off the Connected album. (I literally heard it in the background of a random video, the beat was just that fire i had to find out what it was)
    After that i decided to give the album a listen. But whilst listening, my first impression of Phonte was that he sounded like Drake! My dumbass actually thought "drake must've influenced this guy!".
    Come to find out its the other way around... But the similarity is really something... The cadence, flow, the ability to be vulnerable as a rapper, particularly back then... Early drake is dripping with Phonte influence...
    I would really reccomend giving that Connected album a listen though. The Answer and Let's Move are great, that whole album is really enjoyable. The instrumentation is special too... it reminds me of the halcyon days of adolescence...

    • @hiphopbakery
      @hiphopbakery  3 месяца назад +1

      That’s wild! It’s crazy how that connection hits you after hearing them both. Phonte’s influence on early Drake is so strong that it’s easy to think it was the other way around at first.

    • @ThePsychicFish
      @ThePsychicFish 3 месяца назад

      @@hiphopbakery Ikr! I deadass had to do a double take at first to make sure it wasn't drake! 😅 Great video though man, great to see someone adding fresh ideas to the discourse ✌️

    • @cobylawson1965
      @cobylawson1965 3 месяца назад +1

      Connected is a classic….Phonte’s delivery over Nicolay’s soulful production is crazy. That album has some of Phonte’s hardest verses. I keep it in reg rotation. Shout out to this RUclips channel for shedding some light on both of these incredible emcees.

  • @conduitofthegospeldarrellb9154
    @conduitofthegospeldarrellb9154 3 месяца назад +1

    Goddamn you…
    I had to sub.

  • @NoNamesNeeded
    @NoNamesNeeded 3 месяца назад +3

    Kool G Rap is a big one

  • @cjkelley8470
    @cjkelley8470 3 месяца назад +5

    Phonte didn't inspire the clown known as Drake. Drake stole from Phonte...so did Kanye.. Little Brother started the college talk rap first...then Kanye came to North Carolina and stole their whole movement...

  • @bizzleb7524
    @bizzleb7524 3 месяца назад +1

    Roc Marci is the Goat------------------------------------------------------------Pay Homage Badlands 24
    for the Hard to please

  • @WellVersed
    @WellVersed 3 месяца назад +1

    What about Soulja Boy 🤔

  • @prosperbenjamin84
    @prosperbenjamin84 3 месяца назад +1

    Green house effect. Company flow. Company Flow are the spearheads.

  • @d.felixphoto2260
    @d.felixphoto2260 3 месяца назад +2

    Can we add CampLo to this conversation. JayZ stole they style.

    • @pauldyer5795
      @pauldyer5795 3 месяца назад

      Jay z didn't steal their style 😂

    • @d.felixphoto2260
      @d.felixphoto2260 3 месяца назад

      ​@pauldyer5795 RUclips Camp lo Feelin it. Lol. RUclips what their Producer Ski said. I'm not saying he exactly took their style, I'm saying he was heavily influenced with it when he moved into that Jiggy Jigga era. He wasn't rapping like that before or after but he made his mark with an adaptation of their style

    • @prosperbenjamin84
      @prosperbenjamin84 3 месяца назад +1

      Camp lo has the coldest delivery ever.

    • @d.felixphoto2260
      @d.felixphoto2260 3 месяца назад

      @@prosperbenjamin84 no question

  • @alienn8218
    @alienn8218 3 месяца назад +3

    Dope video but why are you copying hiphop madness swag?