Ranking the Studio Albums: Meshuggah
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- Опубликовано: 21 авг 2024
- Join Pete Pardo as he ranks the full-length studio albums of Swedish progressive extreme metal act Meshuggah. #meshuggah
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"Straws Pulled at Random" blew my mind when I first heard it. It's brutally heavy up front, ethereal and beautiful in the back. Friggin crazy.
Another consistent band that doesn't have any bad albums.
1. Destroy, Erase, Improve
2. Nothing
3. Obzen
4. Chaosphere
5. Koloss
6. The Violent Sleep of Reason
7. Catch 33
8. Contradictions Collapse
Man that was hard to do...
I'm currently listening to "Chaosphere" to hear if my ears agree with yours. They don't, I still rank "Destroy, Erase, Improve" at the very top, but "Chaosphere" is indeed an excellent album.
more holdsworthy
Pete is a very strange figure in my life. Of course we have individual tastes and they diverge in many, many places. On the other hand, I can't think of anyone else I'd trust with guidance through the discographies of both Fleetwood Mac and Meshuggah.
This dude is amazing. Covers every genre of rock to metal. Still waiting for his lamb of god album ranking
Contradictions Collapse is a pure gem. Heavy thrash all the way through!
It sounds like Meshuggah playing Master Of Puppets. A Classick!
My Ranking:
1. obZen - The first album I ever heard from them. Completely blew my mind.
2. Nothing - Absolute perfection
3. Destroy Erase Improve - Love every song other than a couple that I think are still solid.
4. Chaosphere - Not a fan of the opening track, but after that the album is excellent.
5. Catch Thirtythree - Great record, but not as strong as the classics that came just before it and after.
6. Violent Sleep of Reason - Great consistent songwriting, but doesn’t have the standouts like the classics.
7. Koloss - Good record, but it does sound like the band is on autopilot.
8. Contradictions Collapse - Decent tech thrash record, but the songs blend and the vocals are like a bad impersonation of James Hetfield. Still, it’s a mildly enjoyable listen.
I remember the first time I heard meshuggah. My mind went crazy. Just to think that all of they're music is in 4/4 time signature is crazy. The reason why they sound technical is because of the polyrhythms and strange articulation of drums and guitar. Great band!
Yes! So glad you got around to ranking Meshuggah!!
33rd like, which goes in line with my favourite Meshuggah album.
I also love Nothing, Chaosphere, Destroy Erase Improve and the None and I EP's. I like Koloss and Contradictions Collapse well enough. ObZen and The Violent Sleep of Reason, not so much.
But if you want to talk desert island albums, then Fredrik Thordendal's Special Defects - Sol Niger Within is the one for me.
personally catch 33 and obzen are my favorite. Catch 33 is a prog masterpiece, and obzen is meshuggah at their peak heaviness.
Was waiting for this since a while really happy that you finally came around with this. What's so amazing about this band is that everybody is gonna have completely different lists. Its interesting for me your top 2 would be placed in the lower half of my list. You were absolutely spot on about the Holdsworth like playing of Frederik thordendahl it's unbelievable how good of a guitarist he actually is and one of my favourites. I am also a huge fan of the none ep and the psykisk testbild ep since they have some outstanding guitar and fluid drum work.
Anyhoo, this would be my list
1. Obzen (their crown jewel and masterpiece imo)
2. Contradictions collapse (I think this is a fantastic thrash record and haake is very explosive or free form here. This has my favourite solos from Frederik)
3. Nothing
4. Violent sleep of reason
5. Catch 33
6. Destroy erase improve
7. Koloss
8. Chaosphere
My fav metal band - an outfit where viable melodic sensibilities take a backseat to rhythmic exploration (Rhythm is key to Meshuggah); Somewhat comparable to traditional African drum music, where every part serves a function in the rhythmic jigsaw. Insane polyrhythmic drumming, syncopation, cycles--the works! Every instrument functions in a percussive manner (vocals included.) All of this can be disorienting, if not outright off-putting (even for metal fans), so these guys most certainly won't appeal to everyone. Rare one to bludgeon, suffocate, tickle the brain (endlessly) and groove, simultaneously.
Difficult as I love them all, but rankings are something like this:
1. Nothing (Original '02 version)
2. Chaosphere
3. ObZen
4. Destroy Erase Improve
5. The Violent Sleep of Reason
6. Koloss
7. Catch 33
8. Contradictions Collapse
My ranking, excluding their debut and the EPs would be:
1. Chaosphere (chaos indeed)
2. Koloss (favorite production on this one)
3. Nothing
4. The Violent Sleep Of Reason
5. Destroy Erase Improve
6. Obzen
7. Catch 33
1. Obzen
2. Nothing
3. Chaosphere
4. Catch 33
5. Violent Sleep Of Reason
6. Immutable (new)
7. Koloss
8. Destroy Erase Improve
9. Contradictions Collapse
Might just be my overall favorite band.
1. Destroy Erase Improve
2. Chaosphere
3. I
4. Catch 33
5. Contradictions Collapse
6. Nothing
7. Koloss
8. The Violent Sleep Of Reason
9. Obzen
Tomorrow 6-9 could be in a completely different order.😁
1. Koloss/Obzen
2. Catch 33
3. Destroy Erase Improof
4. Chaosphere
5. Nothing
6. Violent Sleep of Reason
7. I
8. Rare Trax
9. True Human Design
10. Contradictions Collaps (w none)
This is my ranking based on the Vinyl including the EPs( Original and Rereleased Versions)
Isn't that blue Nothing a remix or even a re-recording?
1.Obzen
2.Nothing
3.The Violent Sleep Of Reason
4.Koloss
5.Chaosphere
6.Catch Thirtythree
7.Destroy Erase Improve
8.Contradictions Collapse
Hope there will be more ranking of Djent bands in the near future (Animals As Leaders, Periphery...).
First, thanks to at least one of the commenters for spelling the word Djent. Completely unfamiliar with the word, much less the sound, so researched that for a discussion of what that meant. So now will try listening to the band. Thanks, Pete, to you and the commenters for at least keeping me on my toes and listening to music I might otherwise never try.
1. The Violent Sleep Of Reason
2. Catch 33
3. Koloss
4. Obzen
5. Nothing
6. Fredrik Thordendals Special Defects
7. I EP
8. None EP
THRASH ERA (9-10 could change around)
9. Chaosphere
10. Destroy Erase Improve
11. Contradiction Collapse
(Allan Holdsworth influence is cool)
Art Metal/Avant Extreme Prog Metal...
The Big 3 (POLYMETER Innovators)...
King Crimson (Discipline onward)
Tool
Meshuggah (Proto-Djent)
Along with....
Stravinsky, Bartok, etc....
Mahavishnu Orchestra, Frank Zappa, Gentle Giant...
(Polyrhythms) -
World Music/Indian, African, Latin, Indonesian (Poly Meter), etc...
Miles Davis, etc... Beatles, Led Zeppelin, etc... Prince, etc..
Good review man and I couldn't agree more with them starting to become a bit more samy if that's a real word. Catch 33 for me was ground breaking but then they seem to have nowwhere from there. Live though they are insane
Great band, but not for everyone. Great live as well. I know this is off topic and has nothing to do with Meshuggah, but is there any chance there will be a ranking of Venom in the future? I know a lot of people dismiss them and there recent output but I think they're missing out on some great music and they are a very important band in Metal.
I like Juice.
Great video. I haven't heard them all in their entirety, but The Violent Sleep of Reason became one of my all-time favourite albums. They recorded it live and it shows - despite the surgical precision in their playing, this record swings more than the rest. It's got a warmth and a humanity, where Obzen and Koloss were veering into robotic alien territory with their more digital, sterile production. I also love Nothing (Stengah!!!), Chaosphere, Catch 33, and the incredible I.
For some reason I find Koloss to be their best.
It's top 3 for me, for sure! I can agree! This and chaosphere are the most consistent albums for me. They don't have a bad album!
Meshuggha release quality. ObZen is my #1. It is the most listenable and heaviest thing I’ve ever heard for 52 mins.
MESHUGGAH is the AC/DC of progressive metal
Finally I agree with your #1. Hagstrom plays on None (arguably the true begining of the signature Meshuggah-sound?). Haven't listened to C33 in a few years but your comments about it made me want to revist it......thank you!!
Looking forward to that Suffo ranking.....
Cheers
ObZen does it for me, its there heaviest album imo
Destroy Erase Improve
Catch 33
Nothing
Chaosphere
Koloss
Violent Sleep of Reason
Contradictions Collapse - a good album, they just haven't found there great sound yet
OBZEN has always been my favorite album.
Chaosphere would have to be my favorite.
Haha Pete before you even mentioned it I was thinking this is a first a cracked jewel case that you will prob change asap after video 😂
My ranking would go like this:
1. Destroy Erase Improve
2. Obzen
3. Nothing
4. Chaosphere
5. The violent sleep of reason
6. Koloss
7. Catch 33
8. I (EP)
9. None (EP)
10. Contradictions Collapse
And I'm waiting for the upcoming record. Tremendous catalog, their whole discography it's amazing.
Comedian Bill Burr does a funny take on Meshuggah's drumming on RUclips. Personally, I like some tracks over their career (even from the '89 Self-titled debut EP), but album-wise I would say "Chaosphere" & "Destroy Erase Improve" are my top 2.
What is their genre? . . . Meshuggah :p.
I think as a Metal band; Meshuggah fight with Opeth as my favorite . . .
9. Nothing
8. Violent Sleep of Reason
7. Koloss
6. obZen
5. Chaossphere
4. Contradictions Collapse - Just because this was what I was into (still am) at _that_ time, but didn't know this album existed in 1991.
3. Catch33
2. I - I'm throwing that in because it is as long as a 1970's Lp. Its an experiment of EPIC proportions that the band would have to sit, "learn" and figure out how they did it all if they were to perform it live today.
1. Destroy Erase Improve
A friend I worked with, who was an Industrial Metal fan, came up to my desk (in 1995) and said; "I didn't really like this album, but I think you might like it. If not I'll take it back and get something else". 2 minutes into "Future Breed Machine" and I became a Meshuggahner.
Way ahead of its time for 1995 (along with other bands before them), but after 1995, the Tech-Metal bands exploded on the scene after this. It was my 1st Meshuggah album, and it still makes an impact on me. Every track is perfection. How they went into sheer brutality, and then quiet parts as if Allan Holdsworth stepped-in (thank you Thordendal), and then back into the brutality just blew me away (think Opeth doing the same in a different way, and "Orchid" debuting in 1995). And Haake is a Monster-machine/Marathon Runner on the drums.
As it amazes everyone that it was almost all 4/4, but it was what they were doing _within_ the 4/4 that was astounding. As "each" member played the "Lead" or Percussion and point-counterpoint. Just incredible.
I would hope, the next album, or after, they'd change something up with their sound, as I totally agree with you Pete that they need to re-design the monster that they are. Maybe Jens changing-up his vocals with his outrageous screams of the earlier days, along with his deep barks.
Honorable mentions:
3. None - This was my 2nd experience with the band, as I had to find more from them. This was where they were going into new territory. The "Aztec 2 Step" is INSANE (you can see Jens doing the screaming in the "Meshuggah Movie" off of the compilation "Rare Trax", and the _movie_ is also here at Yt).
2. Psykisk Testbild - their 1st Ep, which is weird that the material sounds more like "None", yet its _before_ Contradictions Collapse. I wish I could own it, but I'm saving-up for my own apartment :p.
1. Fredrik Thordendal's Special Defects - Sol N!ger Within (1997)
One of the most brilliant Tech-Metal/Avant-Garde albums ever made. If you can make it through the vocal style, get ready to get your brain blown into a quantum physics landscape of musicianship (does that even make any sense?). This is Fredrik's 1st solo album and his brain on . . . something not of this world, who is currently working on part 2 (or whatever it is). We'll probably get that album before 3001.
- Thanks for the video Pete \m/.
1. Destroy Erase Improve
2. Chaosphere
3. None
4. Contradictions Collapse
I love this band so much
Definitely agree with the TOP 2
New Millennium Cyanide Christ one of the best metal songs ever and that music video!!!
I’ve seen them many times live always mind blowing
Great video Pete
first clued into them with Destroy, Erase, Improve - it was love at first hear...
I'm really excited to see how Immutable ranks among all these
1. Obzen
2. Catch thirty three
3. Nothing
4. Koloss
5. Chaosphere
6. Destroy erase improve
7. Immutable
8. The violent sleep of reason
9. Contradictions collapse
Across the board on the large scale, the most influential band in Metal since Pantera. Destroy Erase Improve #1
DEI and Chaosphere are both awesome, but they really found "their sound" with Nothing IMO. My favorite phase is Nothing - obZen.
Nearly identical list from my perspective.
Chaosphere was my introduction and still holds up as my favorite Meshuggah Lp.
Great ranking.My favorite album is Obzen.
Almost going backward through time.
Their stuff in general can be hit and miss for me. A lot of good stuff though. I"m not a super die-hard Meshuggah fan, I enjoy their more proggy stuff, like Phantoms, In Death / Is Death, Pitch Black, They Move Below, Closed Eye Visuals, Electric Red Shed, Break Those Bones, and many many more, or the super groovy stuff like New Millennium Cyanide Christ, Concatenation (Rare Tracks), Rational Gaze, Ivory Tower, Obzen, Our Rage Won't Die...
Or just go for crazy blast, meaning, all the rest. There's a Meshuggah track for everyone. Love that band.
It's so damn hard ranking these albums, their all so good
I have Catch 33 and obZen pretty much locked-in up top, the part that gets ugly is when I have to pick between Nothing, DEI and Koloss
1. Catch 33
2. obZen
3. Koloss
4. Nothing
5. Destroy Erase Improve
6. Chaosphere
7. The Violent Sleep of Reason
8. Contradictions Collapse
I suggest a "Ranking the Studio Albums: King's X" video - or did you already do it? I hope I haven't missed it yet!
Meshuggah is the rare band where their talent is so palatable, they’re in my genre, and just hit SO hard. Yet, I can’t ever seem to listen more than 10-15 mins before wanting to move on. I’m well versed in extreme metal, etc, but I can’t figure it out. Song structure possibly. I wanna LOVE them, but for now I still just only appreciate them.
Pete have you ever seen meshuggah live? If so then how did they sound? Because probably the 8 string low tuned guitar thumping drums gave you a headache after the show!🤣🤣
I've seen them numerous times...great live band!
i didn't know you knew these guys
I admit that I've not yet listened to a whole lot of Meshuggah, but I bought their 2002 album Nothing after seeing them at Ozz Fest that same year. I also have 1998's Chaosphere and 2016's A Violent Sleep of Reason. I definitely want to hear more, which do you guys recommend as a point of reference for the rest of their discography?
Destroy Erase Improve
ObZen and Catch 33
I've now heard every full length, except for Koloss. Still have to hear that one. The extended play entitled I is also very good. The only one I don't really care for is Catch 33.
I'd agree with having VSoR down in the 6-7th position, but Clockworks is one of my top five Meshuggah tunes.
PETE/. Very , very unlike you. ( cracked jewel 💎 case). Like yourself, I rarely ever crack one , but I definitely have “ fresh ones” that I instantly replace , if it occurs. LOL. Great 👍 show.
1. Obzen
2. Violent Sleep of Reason
3. Chaosphere
4. Destroy Erase Improve
5. Catch 33
6. Nothing
7. Contradictions collapse
8. Koloss
koloss is one of their best albums
Chaosphere is one of the all time great metal albums
Excuse my ignorants,Pete. I have a number of their albums but what the Hell does Genty mean?
Djent-it's a style of metal that incorporates a different style of guitar riffing and incorporates intense polyrhythms. Meshuggah are seen as the originators of that sound, which a lot of younger metal bands & progressive metal bands have started utilizing.
@@seaoftranquilityprog Thanks,man!
#1 chaoasphere #2 contradictions #3 the violent sleep of reason #4 obzen #5 destroy erease improve #6 kolloss #7 Nothing #8 I.
When i came out i wasn't a huge fan of violent sleep of reason but exited to give it another try, nothing is mostly great and the rest is fantastic but im yet to hear the first album
I seen them in concert in michigan. I like some mid there stuff not all. I like the album obzen
IMO, this band got better over time, so I'd rank their later albums higjer
1) Chaosphere
2) Destroy, Erase, Improve
3) Contradictions Collapse
4) Catch Thirtythree
5) Koloss
6) The Violent Sleep of Reason
7) obZen
8) Nothing
You can’t go wrong with that top
3 at all even though destroy erase improve is my favorite I get why people pick chaosphere as one
Meshuggah can fold space and time.
1.Chaosphere
2.Catch 33
3.Obzen
4.The Violent Sleep Of Reason
5.Nothing (original)
6.Koloss
7.Contradictions Collapse
8.Destroy Erase Improve
Yeeeee rock
1. Destroy. Erase. Improve.
2. obZen
3. Nothing
4. Chaosphere
5. Catch Thirtythree
6. The Violent Sleep of Reason
7. Koloss
8. Contradictions Collapse
KOLOS means Giant on Greek language .
Catch 33, ObZen, I, Destroy Erase Improve, Nothing (original), Nothing (remaster), The Violent Sleep of Reason, Koloss, Chaosphere, Rare Trax, Contradictions Collapse, None, Meshuggah, Self-Caged, Pitch Black, The True Human Design
fleetwood mac yes
Danny Carrey sobered up
my meshuggah albums ranked:
1 - contradictions collapse
So Many people Gush over this Band. My first Listen , I dismissed them because of the Vocals & predictable Blast Beats...But Pete is Using words Like " Groove" , "Prog", "Thrash", "Technical"....I Need to revisit this Bands work....
I don't think they've ever used Blast Beats... Listen to Rational Gaze, Straws Pulled at Random, and New Millenium Cyanide Christ. Those songs will show you their "groove."
I never got into them either. For me its those start stop riffs Pete is talking about around the 5 minute mark, those just doesn't work for me. Obviously they are talented but the music is way to choppy for me.
I know I have heard some of their "singles" over the years, but they never grabbed me probably from the vocals, blast beats, and that jerky start stop stuff. I have been getting into more extreme metal these days, so I'll have to check these guys out again.
@@jason-budney7624 I'm not sure where you guys are getting blast beats from, they've never used those.
@@Haxprocess ok cool, that's why I want to check them out with a deeper dive.
" Nothing" doesn't have real drums on it it's all drum machine apparently 🤷🏻♂️
Nothing has real drums (Yellow cover)..ReNothing is programmed (Blue cover)
@@adamross9949 ok thanks for letting me know 🙂
1. Chaosphere
2. Nothing
3. Destroy Erase Improve
4. Koloss
5. ObZen
6. The Violent Sleep of Reason
7. Catch 33
8. Contradictions Collapse
1. Nothing
2. Catch 33
3. The violent sleep of reason
4. Obzen
5. Destroy erase improve
6. Koloss
7. Contradictions collapse
8. Chaosphere
1. Chaosphere
2. Destroy Erase Improve
3. ObZen
4. Nothing
5. The Violent Sleep of Reason
6. Catch 33
7. Koloss
8. Contradictions Collapse