@wirelessbluestone5983 I’m nowhere near an expert in this topic so I’ll just relay what I read from academics, and the ones I’ve read seem split. Most agree that it probably means something, but how exactly is hard to say. Early modern Swedish academics seem to think it’s the homeland, but a lot of those texts are discredited for other reasons. It could just be that the word for “our people/land” (gut-thiuda) simply spread through language without significant population movement, but I don’t know. It’s definitely interesting though.
I actually know this one. Gotland doesn't have a long O sound like Goth, it actually is pronounced as Goat-land, and this is because it's an island covered in goats. Literally, it is goat land.
Excellent Video! I've been reading up on the Huns recently, and they are a similar case. No writing survives from the Huns themselves, so historians have to rely on Roman sources, which are obviously a bit skewed. I'm excited to see more videos about the Goths!
Well in Sweden there is a legitimate claim as similar structures to old Gothic ones are found along the lands still inhabited by the Geatish or Götar, aswell as the names for the ethnic groups having the same etymologic orgin Then there is the Gutnish aswell with a bit more stronger claim as the Gutnish or Gutar were pretty far removed from mainland North Germanic languages and still are pretty unique, their old language aswell as their name has even a closer connection and are belived to once have descended from the same orginal culture as the Goths or Gutans (Gut-þiuda just means Gothic-tribe/people/nation with the same orgin as Þjóð in the old norse name for Sweden Svíþjód meaning Swedish-tribe/people/nation)
I expected the video to mainly explore whether the Goths came from Gotland or if else which part of Götaland. The grandest Runestone, the Rök Runestone in East-Götland writes alot about the East-Gothic king Theodoric the Great btw. If nothing else, that perhaps also hints of a old atleast perceived kinship from the Östgötar to the Ostrogoths.
King Carl Gustav is, of course, king of the Swedes and the Goths. My understanding has been that they originally come from what's now southern Sweden and they surely did not all migrate. If that's the case, some of my paternal ancestors must have been Goths but I don't speak the language
Fato in european portuguese (terno: brazilian portuguese) meaning three piece suit is said to come from fat, a gothic word. This is believable, because Portugal/LVSITANIA was part of the Visigothic Kingdom.
(not so) fun fact! Here in Croatia the fascist quesling state of NDH claimed that the croats were the descendants of the Goths in order to appear more German. The idea is disproven by heaps of evidence, but its still sometimes used by conspiracy theorists. So the idea of claiming the legacy of the Goths is sadly still alive and well😅
@@v.salles5643 How can they call it offensive to be a "non inclusive" when it is from a certain religion and they try to alienate it from its source? This "inclusion"/wokeness is exclusive and disrespectful.
@@v.salles5643 Funny how all of this originally came from a country where a catholic candidate lost for being catholic, Al Smith, and JFK needed to say he is not a catholic candidate but a candidate from the democratic party, while not a single protestant needed to do so.
What are your thoughts on the similarities between place names in Sweden and the term Goth like Gotland?
@wirelessbluestone5983 I’m nowhere near an expert in this topic so I’ll just relay what I read from academics, and the ones I’ve read seem split. Most agree that it probably means something, but how exactly is hard to say. Early modern Swedish academics seem to think it’s the homeland, but a lot of those texts are discredited for other reasons. It could just be that the word for “our people/land” (gut-thiuda) simply spread through language without significant population movement, but I don’t know. It’s definitely interesting though.
I actually know this one. Gotland doesn't have a long O sound like Goth, it actually is pronounced as Goat-land, and this is because it's an island covered in goats. Literally, it is goat land.
@scoman91 Very interesting, I had no idea! Most of the texts I read didn’t even consider Gotland, so now I know why
Tell Schrodinger ''I survived...''
I thought the answer was gonna be hot topic but I stand corrected
What came first? The Goth or Hot Topic?
i won a ten dollar bet that the top comment of this video would mention hot topic, thank you
Thanks for including my guest audio read!
Excellent Video! I've been reading up on the Huns recently, and they are a similar case. No writing survives from the Huns themselves, so historians have to rely on Roman sources, which are obviously a bit skewed. I'm excited to see more videos about the Goths!
Well in my experience they always tended to hang out at the local Hot Topic.
Fair, but where do they come from?
And where did they go?
Where do they come from, Cotton Eye Joe?
I’m ethnically gothic and I don’t think your joke is very funny.
Great video and I’m looking forward to the next one!
The Goths had to migrate for the Goth Girls to hang around.
😁
Well in Sweden there is a legitimate claim as similar structures to old Gothic ones are found along the lands still inhabited by the Geatish or Götar, aswell as the names for the ethnic groups having the same etymologic orgin
Then there is the Gutnish aswell with a bit more stronger claim as the Gutnish or Gutar were pretty far removed from mainland North Germanic languages and still are pretty unique, their old language aswell as their name has even a closer connection and are belived to once have descended from the same orginal culture as the Goths or Gutans
(Gut-þiuda just means Gothic-tribe/people/nation with the same orgin as Þjóð in the old norse name for Sweden Svíþjód meaning Swedish-tribe/people/nation)
I expected the video to mainly explore whether the Goths came from Gotland or if else which part of Götaland.
The grandest Runestone, the Rök Runestone in East-Götland writes alot about the East-Gothic king Theodoric the Great btw.
If nothing else, that perhaps also hints of a old atleast perceived kinship from the Östgötar to the Ostrogoths.
yoo a Jack Rackam cameo, what a surprise! Great video, glad to see another video from you.
great video!
Can’t wait for the return of the moose
Question: Did greeks use barbarian tribes as mercenaries and auxiliary units like the Roman's Republic and Empire did?
That's a good question. It probably happened sometimes, but I wonder if it was as common as with the Roman army
Yes the Byzantines used many including Vikings ie Varangians, even Anglo Saxons after 1066, or did you mean pre roman Greece? Cheers from Mercia
Kino is back on the menu
As Rex Gothorum I approve this message.
I have Visigoth ancestry great video deserves more views
Man the migration period is so interesting
100% agree!
The return of the king
Woah you’re back
My very excited for this mr moose
@@Irenitize Glad you are!
I was under the impression that it was an 80s counter culture movement but the more you know I guess
Wonderful video! I'm high asl and the painting at 10:20 is beautiful
Very good. Thank you
King Carl Gustav is, of course, king of the Swedes and the Goths. My understanding has been that they originally come from what's now southern Sweden and they surely did not all migrate. If that's the case, some of my paternal ancestors must have been Goths but I don't speak the language
WOOOOOOOOOOO
Fato in european portuguese (terno: brazilian portuguese) meaning three piece suit is said to come from fat, a gothic word.
This is believable, because Portugal/LVSITANIA was part of the Visigothic Kingdom.
Easy! Hot Topic
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MOOSE TIME MOOSE TIME MOOSE TIME MOOSE TI
Goths ,Geaten ,Gotalanden :all of them were fierce warriors and nowadays their descendants are going to be submitted by dirty foreigners 😢😮😅
(not so) fun fact! Here in Croatia the fascist quesling state of NDH claimed that the croats were the descendants of the Goths in order to appear more German. The idea is disproven by heaps of evidence, but its still sometimes used by conspiracy theorists. So the idea of claiming the legacy of the Goths is sadly still alive and well😅
@@toma_radboa old habits die hard
BC not BCE
The calendar is catholic, do not pervert it with this "BCE" and "CE".
Can't believe calendars have gone woke, i'm crying and shaking rn
@@v.salles5643 How can they call it offensive to be a "non inclusive" when it is from a certain religion and they try to alienate it from its source?
This "inclusion"/wokeness is exclusive and disrespectful.
@@v.salles5643 Funny how all of this originally came from a country where a catholic candidate lost for being catholic, Al Smith, and JFK needed to say he is not a catholic candidate but a candidate from the democratic party, while not a single protestant needed to do so.