A Dobbing Strategy Guide for Horse Racing (£20 Profit on a Loser)

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  • Опубликовано: 29 окт 2024

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  • @CaanBerryProTrader
    @CaanBerryProTrader  4 года назад +4

    Have you tried dobbing? Did you like the video? Check out some historic prices for yourself - bit.ly/3b66JCV

    • @craigmcmanus2888
      @craigmcmanus2888 4 года назад

      Caan, I'm fairly new to trading, having come from Matched Betting (gubbed out of most). I'm drawn to footy rather than horses simply because the horse prices move so quickly and it seems easier to focus on footy where I don't feel so rushed. Please feel free to convince me otherwise :-)

    • @masonridgewell8063
      @masonridgewell8063 4 года назад +1

      @@craigmcmanus2888 to each own. But I choose horse racing all day over football. Simply because I think football is too slow. I don't have the patience sitting out a match waiting for a certain result where's to horse racing it just go one after th other. And I don't trade every single horse race, but during the day there is a good amount of selection that fits that criteria where I can focus on.
      It all depends on what you think it's too fast. If you're scalping then the intensity is much higher yes. I made more money and more efficient with horse racing compared to football. After all without being greedy and all we all want to be profitable right?

    • @craigmcmanus2888
      @craigmcmanus2888 4 года назад

      @@masonridgewell8063 Thanks Tyson, could you point me in a direction to start from? An easy-ish method to start me off? Thanks again.

    • @franksfusionnutition9540
      @franksfusionnutition9540 3 года назад

      Could you use betdaq for this as well

  • @BENBOBBY
    @BENBOBBY 4 года назад +10

    Thanks, never heard of this before! Appreciate the actual demonstrations rather than just abstract ideas that some other RUclipsrs do.

    • @CaanBerryProTrader
      @CaanBerryProTrader  4 года назад +3

      Thanks, we try to ensure all of our videos are clear to understand :)

  • @SrFabio
    @SrFabio 4 года назад +6

    Great stuff, never tried it like that but this happens quite a lot from what I've seen. Really need to start giving more attention to horse racing

  • @theborobuzzard9533
    @theborobuzzard9533 4 года назад +2

    I have a list of 4 or 5 dobbers, usually front runners in 5f and 6f sprints, ping the lids and after 1 furlong, it’s usually matched 👍🏻

  • @paulharrison8612
    @paulharrison8612 4 года назад +4

    Great video Caan.
    I aggre that With a bit of leg work you can find horses that have a high probability if shortening in play and doubling down in odds. Good strategy thanks for sharing your expertise...Rgds Paul👍

    • @CaanBerryProTrader
      @CaanBerryProTrader  4 года назад

      Sure, with 9 out of 10 runs I think it's clear this example has a habit of dropping 50% or more.

  • @chrisg9047
    @chrisg9047 4 года назад +1

    Thanks Caan, everyday is a school day watching your videos 👍

  • @davidmeadowcroft7626
    @davidmeadowcroft7626 4 года назад +1

    Love the video Caan. I’m using this type of approach currently based on market strength rather than past histories. The strategy works and creating a newer list using the TF info looks a real improver. Thanks again for supplying these videos with such frequency - every day is a school day. 👍👏👏👍

    • @CaanBerryProTrader
      @CaanBerryProTrader  4 года назад +1

      Happy days. I've used different ones over the years, which has then been a problem as some of the sites have failed to offer such functions. Pretty sure there's no chance of that going anywhere with timeform though.

  • @marcindyczkowski93
    @marcindyczkowski93 4 года назад +1

    Thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience with newbies like me :) I'm at the beginning of my trading journey, but I've already learned a lot from your vids.

  • @happytimes88
    @happytimes88 4 года назад +3

    Thank you Caan for another great video

  • @unitedroad438
    @unitedroad438 4 года назад +6

    that's what it's called i have been doing that for months with match betting. i bet on the fav with 4.0 at 7- 9am then go on the exchange and lay at 3.9 and i always do the keep option so if it does not match before then it will in play

    • @elastronaute1198
      @elastronaute1198 4 года назад +6

      That does not sound like a profitable strategy... too generic. Here's the problem, sooner or later you'll find a horse that never gets to 3.9. Just drifts out during the morning and then fluffs the start of the race or something and never gets into contention. You may be thinking you're onto a winner because you have a very high strike-rate but because you're making so little profit per time, on the occasion that it doesn't get matched you're going to lose all of your profit. Just warning you, this won't work over the long-term.

    • @azlondon
      @azlondon 4 года назад

      Have you been successful with this strategy?

    • @unitedroad438
      @unitedroad438 4 года назад +1

      @@azlondon yeah but I always make sure the favourite is 4.0

  • @youngy76
    @youngy76 4 года назад +1

    Love this video and the concept of this strategy Caan. Im still learning trading (self taught) so this is a great one for my armoury.

    • @CaanBerryProTrader
      @CaanBerryProTrader  4 года назад

      No problem, thanks for leaving a comment. Don't forget to subscribe for future giveaways too!!

    • @youngy76
      @youngy76 4 года назад

      @@CaanBerryProTrader already subsribed mate cheers.

  • @deanbaldwin8476
    @deanbaldwin8476 2 года назад

    You are the 🐐 great work

  • @tradingbetfairmarkets7712
    @tradingbetfairmarkets7712 4 года назад +1

    Great Content!! Learn a lot from you. Thank you!

  • @francislea4700
    @francislea4700 4 года назад +2

    Thanks. Good info.

  • @gritech1
    @gritech1 4 года назад

    Ha Ha nice one I tried this out and worked well for 1st one ....only problem was me making a slight mistake Bet at £20 layed at £20 Result Zero :-) :-) lesson learnt should have laid at £40 must pay attention :-D

  • @davidwelburn
    @davidwelburn 4 года назад +3

    Good video; do you look for a specific minimum percentage of dobs from the last 10 runs? I.e. does it have to be as high as 90% or would you go lower? And do you screen for distance or other factors? Thanks.

    • @CaanBerryProTrader
      @CaanBerryProTrader  4 года назад

      It's more important to see the trend over a larger sample than anything else. Could DOB 95% of the time over the last 10 runs but I'd rather take something that dobbs 90% of the time over 30 runs for example.

  • @TheAmusementsArcade
    @TheAmusementsArcade 2 года назад

    Thinking of buying Carl Traders in running course. Looks good. However I've got doubts, as there's some reputable traders on forums saying that in play trading isn't going to be profitable long term. A bit torn on what to do, as I'm pretty sure it surely must be profitable for some. Just don't know whether this specific course is the right one

  • @LFlowers36-o3p
    @LFlowers36-o3p 4 года назад +3

    Can’t hear that term without thinking of Dobin the horse lol 🐎

  • @krabila
    @krabila 4 года назад

    Excellent info ... caan ... thanx.

  • @zzhughesd
    @zzhughesd Год назад

    Caan - BF's Best Price Execution, what are the Pros and Cons when trying to get matched on LTF lay the field at 1.1 in running, thanks Dan

  • @MultiKinster
    @MultiKinster 4 года назад +1

    Great will try

  • @willshousewmo
    @willshousewmo Год назад

    Caan, is there any possibility of this occurring the other way? so laying short and halving stake at a doubled back price for horses that travel poorly?

  • @grobbo1234
    @grobbo1234 2 года назад

    Very good video. Just one thing on my mind though, is it possible for the lay price to activate but bet not get match because of liquidity?

  • @innercircle341
    @innercircle341 4 года назад

    any reason why I should n't use this strategy but be happy to win say 50% or 25% even of the initial back bet?
    Getting a horse at 3 to trade 1.5 90% of the time looks a pretty difficult task to me nut what If I laid £30 at 2.0 for a £10 profit?
    Any views?
    Great content, recent subscriber, long term exchange player

  • @gavinbaines8579
    @gavinbaines8579 4 года назад +1

    Another good Vid but more for the Newbie Traders that one

  • @davidedwards209
    @davidedwards209 4 года назад +1

    Excellent video caan. Would you advise to stay away from shorter races? Also what sort of percentage of success would you say is goof to back. This one is obviously a very good example but I've searched alot of races and only getting some with maybe 3/5 or 4/5 last races.

    • @CaanBerryProTrader
      @CaanBerryProTrader  4 года назад +2

      With dobbing it shouldnt matter so much. Backing to lay and the like I would advise going above 7f.

  • @andrewtaylor2785
    @andrewtaylor2785 2 года назад

    I registered but still have padlocks. Can't I find the information in the racecard, or just results

  • @guilhermegdeavogtmannsberg3776
    @guilhermegdeavogtmannsberg3776 2 года назад

    bet lay $140 to earn $20 i think is not very profitable at the long term right? if the bet not cover you loose $140 to earn $20 right?

  • @froggyfootball7572
    @froggyfootball7572 4 года назад

    Good explanation and a decent looking strategy. I wonder if you can improve your strike rate by applying some more filters on your selections - for example previous course winner or a favourable draw (on courses where there are solid draw advantages).

  • @paulconey9608
    @paulconey9608 3 года назад +1

    Caan can you tell me how much pictures are behind on betfair video?????????

    • @CaanBerryProTrader
      @CaanBerryProTrader  3 года назад

      Depends on stream... usually live pics are a few secs behind the event on BF. Others up to 8 or so seconds.

  • @richardtaylor187
    @richardtaylor187 4 года назад +1

    Caan, do you ever reverse DOB? I.e. do you look for selections perhaps mispriced low, and don’t have a great running history, so lay first to back at double price of lay.

    • @CaanBerryProTrader
      @CaanBerryProTrader  4 года назад

      No. Although there used to be a guy on the Geeks Toy forum called wagonmastergeneral that did very well from it, or so I believe. He was around a long time and seemed reputable.

  • @eddiecunningham5590
    @eddiecunningham5590 3 года назад +1

    Hi Caan - great video mate, I am based in Australia and am looking for an equivalent website of Timeform for Australian racing that gives the ISP / BSP and IP Hi/Lo - can you please advise if you know if there is one that exists and if so can you please comment with the link - much appreciated - keep up the good work - Legend !!!

    • @darshakfaria1938
      @darshakfaria1938 2 года назад

      Did you find any for Australian ones as am looking for same?

  • @ΜιχάληςΜιχάλης-ξ8δ
    @ΜιχάληςΜιχάλης-ξ8δ 4 года назад +1

    Nice, what's your opinion about betting brokers? Is it worth using them?

  • @mm8alo
    @mm8alo 4 года назад +1

    Hey Caan thanks for the tip, just a quick one, how to set to decimals time form information.? Cheers mate!

    • @CaanBerryProTrader
      @CaanBerryProTrader  4 года назад +1

      What do you mean? On the time form site? Confused.

    • @mm8alo
      @mm8alo 4 года назад

      @@CaanBerryProTrader yes is any way to change the odds on web site "timeform"?. thanks for the time taking to reply cheers

  • @iandavey7222
    @iandavey7222 3 года назад

    Hi Caan. I'm looking at Timeform and all the info you say is available and free to view, appears to be locked unless I subscribe to unlock premium content? Am I missing something here? Thanks

    • @CaanBerryProTrader
      @CaanBerryProTrader  3 года назад +1

      Hi Ian, you just need to register a free account and you get the extra info I used in this video. There is more beyond that for premium but you can get the info shared on the free sub. You just have to register an email (they don't send you loads of stuff).

  • @terryward1632
    @terryward1632 Год назад

    This comment probably too late to register in the conflab but if the horse wins you don't make a profit just all square.
    So surely dobbing is just making a lay bet on the horse risk free?

  • @JamesThompson-fx6pc
    @JamesThompson-fx6pc 4 года назад +1

    Iv'e tried manually trying to find decent horses to do dobbing on, but can't seem to find any after nearly an hour searching. Does anyone know of any dobbing alert systems?

    • @CaanBerryProTrader
      @CaanBerryProTrader  4 года назад

      Check out this vid... ruclips.net/video/ol1scqJKnXE/видео.html

  • @TheAmusementsArcade
    @TheAmusementsArcade 4 года назад +1

    Hi Caan I've tried this quite a few times and had some success, but then suddenly it goes backwards a lot even though I stick to the same selection criteria. Any advice to get the strike rate better? Or is it just that there may be long periods where it goes flat?

    • @CaanBerryProTrader
      @CaanBerryProTrader  4 года назад +2

      The more stringent you are with your selection process the more accurate and reliable it becomes. The only problem for some is the lack of selections when you do that a lot. Personally I'd say keep it tight and keep the powder dry when you are unsure.

    • @TheAmusementsArcade
      @TheAmusementsArcade 4 года назад

      @@CaanBerryProTrader thanks, makes sense. I guess i need to remember that the better the strike rate, the higher the stakes can go too and no need for a lot of selections every day

  • @andrewnusroot2754
    @andrewnusroot2754 3 года назад

    I may be dumb so can someone please help.
    If I take 2 bets for a total outlay of $60 (bet 1 = $20 + bet 2 = $40), and the most I can win from either bet is $60 (ie: $20 x 3.0 or $40 x 1.5) Then I can only win back an amount equal to my initial, total outlay. Therefore, how do I make any profit?

    • @FlameFlickers
      @FlameFlickers 2 года назад

      The $20 is a back bet and the $40 is a lay bet.
      The $20 at odds of 3 will give you $40 profit on that horse and $20 loss on all others.
      If the $40 lay is then matched at 1.5, that will give a net $20 profit on all horses.

  • @sjewitt22
    @sjewitt22 3 года назад +1

    What happens to the Lay bet if the price doesn't go that low, it doesn't get matched?

    • @andrewnusroot2754
      @andrewnusroot2754 3 года назад

      Very good question. By my calculation, anything equal or lower than 1.5 will lose you money. I think you need to lock in a lay price higher than 50% in order to make any money. See my question above, which is...
      If I take 2 bets for a total outlay of $60 (bet 1 = $20 + bet 2 = $40), and the most I can win from either bet is $60 (ie: $20 x 3.0 or $40 x 1.5) Then I can only win back an amount equal to my initial, total outlay. Therefore, how do I make any profit?

    • @jaycfc6955
      @jaycfc6955 Год назад +1

      ​@@andrewnusroot2754 when you lay a bet the stake is not part of your liability. So £40 is someone who has matched you and is their stake you have offered them odds of 1.5 which is 1/2 in fraction betting . So your liability is half their stake =£20 if the horse wins but you have won £40 thru your original £20 back bet. So if the horse wins you get £40 profit from your back bet but lose £20 to your lay bet liability, 40-20=£20 profit, if the horse loses you lose your £20 back bet stake but have won the lay backers £40 stake, so lose 20 gain 40 =£20 profit. Just remember the layers stake is not your liability it's the odds you have given them. It's all about the maths
      I hope this helps you, good luck

  • @clintrichardsonclintfromny203
    @clintrichardsonclintfromny203 4 года назад +1

    What do you think about Tiz the Law running from the 17 post? Can he do it?

  • @matthias100
    @matthias100 4 года назад

    Nice strategy I am new to this m still not sure how to tell if odds will get low or higher, Any tips, What if it is matched when you backed , but it didnt when you layed

    • @CaanBerryProTrader
      @CaanBerryProTrader  4 года назад

      That's the bust part.... although you could cash out if its obvious to minimise the loss.

  • @elastronaute1198
    @elastronaute1198 4 года назад

    Caan how do you find these horses via timeform though? Like I can see how you can look at them after the event and possibly 'follow' them, but how would you find them in the first place? Surely you don't click on every horse every day and look through their past price stats? Do you use pattern form to find interesting ones and then start following them?

    • @golfboy7438
      @golfboy7438 4 года назад

      I would say this just comes with knowledge of how a certain animal tends to run, the more racing you watch the better you will be at identify these horses

  • @richardling7088
    @richardling7088 4 года назад

    Can did be done on IF i just want to earn a few ticks? Assuming i back at 3.0 and want to green out at 2.7 or 2.5?
    Also, are there any trends or rules you follow? E.g. Number of horses/entries for that race or dob only when there are clear favourites or something?

    • @CaanBerryProTrader
      @CaanBerryProTrader  4 года назад +1

      Yes. Different maths behind the hedge though. Made easier if you use some software.

  • @strzelba8254
    @strzelba8254 4 года назад

    Great video Caan, wouldn't be hard creating Bot that kind of trading for ourselves ?

  • @axelhippo8661
    @axelhippo8661 4 года назад +1

    Hi caan what do you think about the website copybet?

    • @CaanBerryProTrader
      @CaanBerryProTrader  4 года назад +1

      Haven't heard good things about that one to be honest. Haven't used it myself or even looked.

  • @richardcutler1571
    @richardcutler1571 4 года назад

    Just got timeform and login
    it's not letting me see what your seeing and when I press on locks asking for race passers so do I have to pay for it

    • @CaanBerryProTrader
      @CaanBerryProTrader  4 года назад

      When you register for free and verify your email you can get the inplay hi and lo etc... there are extras on race passes but you can get the info shown

    • @richardcutler1571
      @richardcutler1571 4 года назад

      @@CaanBerryProTrader Had to redo login and now it works thanks and keep up the good work we need all the help we can get

    • @gavinsmith0905
      @gavinsmith0905 4 года назад

      Can see the high and low for races that have completed, but where can you find this info for a horse that hasn't run if looking at todays horses please??

  • @nickreek3597
    @nickreek3597 4 года назад

    Do you have to pay for the extra info ISP etc.. as it's saying you have to pay for race cards

    • @CaanBerryProTrader
      @CaanBerryProTrader  4 года назад +1

      Hi Nick, no not at all. You just have to register for a free account. There is other extras on their premium version but the ISP, BSP, Inplay Hi/Lo are all free when you are signed in with a free account (thats all it is in the video).

    • @nickreek3597
      @nickreek3597 4 года назад

      Thanks Caan, much appreciated

  • @ebojfmdboojoh4023
    @ebojfmdboojoh4023 2 года назад

    Would you consider using a martingale strategy if your first selection lost.

    • @CaanBerryProTrader
      @CaanBerryProTrader  2 года назад

      Hell no, see the martingale video on the channel.

    • @ebojfmdboojoh4023
      @ebojfmdboojoh4023 2 года назад

      Sure, but I mean if you were reasonably confident in the DOB trade it would be unlikely you would get a long losing streak of trades.

  • @DreamTheSpirits
    @DreamTheSpirits 3 года назад

    how quickly will this cause you to get stake restricted?

    • @CaanBerryProTrader
      @CaanBerryProTrader  3 года назад

      You wont ever get stake restricted using an exchange. They just exchange orders with other users, not a bookie.

  • @SpannerAT34
    @SpannerAT34 3 года назад +1

    When are you opening a day school - I'd attend :)

  • @sabinshrestha5815
    @sabinshrestha5815 4 года назад

    Interesting...

  • @hortic07
    @hortic07 4 года назад +1

    This seems high risk to me. No certainty of matching the lay and requires a good amount of in play liquidity. Scalping seems more of a reliable strategy.

    • @CaanBerryProTrader
      @CaanBerryProTrader  4 года назад

      Scalping is a great pre-race strategy. This is a more logical in play strategy with some useful stats :)

  • @SirNigelFarage
    @SirNigelFarage 4 года назад

    I prefer tobbing!

  • @paulwilkinson5656
    @paulwilkinson5656 4 года назад +1

    Caan, I paid for your trading course, should you really be giving gems like this away for free?? 😁

    • @CaanBerryProTrader
      @CaanBerryProTrader  4 года назад

      We both know this doesn't compare, Paul! Going to add some updates to the course soon.

    • @andthepointis4323
      @andthepointis4323 4 года назад

      @@CaanBerryProTrader looking forward to updates for sure to the course Caan

  • @mariemccammon7486
    @mariemccammon7486 Год назад

    Why is he saying you make a profit if the lay bet gets matched? No you don't. Unless the horse goes on to win the race you 'win' £ 00.00 You don't lose any money but you done win anything

  • @rmmr559
    @rmmr559 4 года назад

    Timeform requires paid subscription to view the prices

    • @CaanBerryProTrader
      @CaanBerryProTrader  4 года назад

      No it doesn't, as per the video. You just register for free and login. Inplay Hi/Lo is all there. You may be confused with their race passes extra's.

    • @JB-md3lk
      @JB-md3lk 4 года назад

      I can get ISP to show but not BSP or in play hi/lo

  • @cipiku07
    @cipiku07 4 года назад +1

    ✔👍

  • @millers6890
    @millers6890 Год назад

    This data is no longer available on a free account.

  • @BetCazador
    @BetCazador 4 года назад +1

    20 pounds @3 = 40 profit? 😐😐

    • @CaanBerryProTrader
      @CaanBerryProTrader  4 года назад +1

      Yes.

    • @BetCazador
      @BetCazador 4 года назад +1

      WTF I don't know how I was doing the maths 😂😂😂😂 Obviously is 40 profit.... Luckily today it was my trading day off .......... Not my day to work with numbers and money.

    • @zzhughesd
      @zzhughesd 4 года назад +1

      Yup. Getting head around exchange and betting decimals takes a bit. Then it’s just natural

    • @MrBroken20
      @MrBroken20 4 года назад +1

      Returns 60 if winner less 20 stake equals 40 profit

    • @RavenSWE
      @RavenSWE 4 года назад +1

      3 includes your stake. 3.0 is the same as 2/1