Review: Atelier Lydie and Suelle: the Alchemists and the Mysterious Paintings (PS4/Switch/PC)
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I've never played any of the other games in the series but based on your review I think I may pick this up next month when I get back from holiday. Another solid review - cheers!
Thank you :D Hope you enjoy it if you get it! :)
She just kicks the rocks to get materials or kicks the enemy to get first strike? She even kicks the treasure chest open
She kicks everything! And then battles using guns! :p
How hard do you have to kick a boulder to even come close to breaking it like that...
don't you just kick the rocks and chests?
@@wboeren1 you'd rather she kicked your ass?
Big step on me mommy energy
Great review! Thought it might be a little too slow paced at the beginning but it looks like a very good relaxing game after all. Thanks for the helpful review!
Thank you for watching it :D
This game looks good and I didn’t know if I should get it or not cause no one is giving it much attention! Thank you for the review, I might get it next month
Hope you like it if you get it :D
Sounds like this one is really interesting JRPG. I might have to put this one to my list of games that I need to buy. Then again I already buy far more games than I have time to play and most of them are JRPGs.
It's a good problem to have ;D hope you enjoy it if you play it!
That's true. Well I can see myself easily enjoying this one as it does seem to be game that I would enjoy very much when or if I would find time to play it if I do end up buying it.
Huh, I wonder why I didn't get a notification for this! In any case, this review did great - I did pick it up but (of course) I haven't started it yet. I'm usually wary of "collection" based games, but this doesn't look too bad in that regard. It's good to see that there were some bosses that did provide a bit of challenge. I'm impressed you finished it so quickly.
Hope you enjoy it when you play it! Other than between chapter stuff, you can mostly go as deep into the collection as you’d like so I think it’s good! And I pretty much played it anytime I could over the last few weeks so yeah :p
(And no notification
This seems like a cute and chill game
Yes, please please play the previous two. This arc more than any other game series (other than maybe Legend of Heroes), really just flows from game to game. They do an amazing job continuing to develop characters from previous games, and pushing plot threads forwards. Literally (literally literally) there's a plot thread that starts in the first 5 minutes of Sophie that doesn't complete until you do every single friendship event with Sophie, Plachta, and Alt all the way 3 full games later. The amount of emotional closure you get from seeing these characters' struggles over the full 3-game arc is really amazing. I sincerely hope you can experience it, too.
That has me very keen! I’d really like to get to Sophie this year, I need more Atelier in this year in general :3
@@JRPGJungle if you play Sophie, please try my recipe-finder application and let me know if it's useful. I love having some data on the side when playing Atelier games, just to help decide what paths to take with some recipe chains.
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Great review. I personally found it disappointing in comparison to earlier Atelier titles but it was good on its own. I wish there were more party members that were new. Lucia really should have been one.
Most of my favorite moments in Lydie were the events that tied up loose ends and gave closure to characters from Firis and Sophie. I sadly didn't find either Alt or Mathias that interesting.
But i did enjoy the Twins and their main storyline.
I do recommend going back to Firis. Thats my favorite of the 'Mysterious' trilogy of Atelier PS4 games.
Yeah, there seemed to be a lot of little things that would've made more sense to me with the old characters if I'd played their games, so I'd like to try them :) I don't know if I'll start with Firis or Sophie (I really liked Firis, so I want to play Firis but it would make sense to play Sophie first in regards to the trilogy lol) but I definitely want to
And Lucia absolutely should have been a party member! Actually glad hear someone else think that lol she was always kind of just there, she definitely could have fought as a fellow alchemist. I think they're putting her in as DLC, but she would've made much more sense as an extra party member. :3
Do we at least get Platcha?
I liked Lydie and Suelle but still my most favorite Atelier hands down is Atelier Firis.
Platcha is in the game (she's in the trailer I think) :) I don't think as a party member though :3
JRPG Jungle I do recommend starting with Sophie first. It maybe in terms of graphics a bit of a let down but it can't be blamed since this is their first Mysterious game. And you need to know Sophie/Plachta and the gang first in order to play Firis. As I played Firis most of the characters in Sophie will return and you'll have times that you'll really get lost on what they're really saying, and the last boss is hard. 😂 But either way Atelier Sophie is one hell of a good game filled with Sophies overflowing aura of Cuteness and the fact that Plachta's always with you doesn't make you feel lonely. But your hardwork will pay off once you play Atelier Firis. It's one hell of a open world game and the feels is there you'll know it once you start the game and if you played other open world games like Breath Of The Wild and Xenoblade Chronicles 2. Atelier Firis will make you feel right at home. The fact that you have to travel from one place to another which is really far because of the quests and stuff is what I like in jrpgs. But beware of the time limit. It's not really demanding but if you laze around you'll definitely get a bad ending. 😁
I'm still playing Lydie And Suelle and it's so much fun for me in the Switch. I wanted the PS4 version considering I played it's demo but decided to go portable. So far we have one patch ver 1.01 and improved lots of things especially the framerate drops, some DLCs and improvement on the graphics. Which need a bit more upscaling. I bet they're still trying to get used to developing the Nintendo Switch considering its only a year old.
So far in the story I finally defeated Falgior. And went through some funny events like Mathias as usual trying to find tips on getting girls and Alt staying in the twins house to avoid the girls in his Atelier. It's so funny aside from the relaxing battles the humor in this game is top notch. And the part where there some feels is Pirate Bracken and Neige. But at least we got some good endings for both of them.
Ah I loved the pirate Bracken stuff! Good to hear about an Alt event, I really missed a lot of his events (because he's in his Atelier pretty much always lol) so I want to learn more about him :) glad to hear you enjoyed it on Switch too, I know I picked the PS4 version for the visuals but it has a great potential as a portable game with all the collection and stuff :)
JRPG Jungle I literally felt sad when Bracken left damn the feels 😪
Please start streaming so I can live through your RPG life. Mine is too busy!
haha I hope to sometime! My wifi still isn't good enough, but one day! ✊
If you plan to try Atlier Firis, just remember it has an "open world" style, and can be frustrating having to travel long distances to gather items.
You're right though, Firis is delightful. You won't be disappointed with her in Atelier Firis!
A few people have said similar, so yeah, it will be interesting :) but Firis’s delightfulness will conquer it, I’m sure :D
i got hooked playing atelier games after i finished playing atelier ryza then went for arland series rorona,totori,meruru and went back to play atelier ryza 2 and finished the game,currently playing atelier lulua
holy i ryly struggle if this slow, unepic, slice of life rpg is for me - after many reviews focusing on combat, systems and lack of plot feel discourage to play this. But yours review expose beautiful landscapes and city i never seen before in any review. And this is what slow-peaced game need, now it looks like this game have some charm after all. Great job!
ps. it proves u don't need to be expert in long going series to properly review it. For me who never play any atelier this one was much more informative than "expert" reviews focusing on "what new/whats removed compare to older games"
Is it just me, or is Sue inspired by Mami from Puella Magi Madoka Magica? She wore yellow and used guns fancily.
I can totally see it! I love Mami's design and Sue's, so it's a good inspiration if it is :D
I want to play this one and was going to buy it on Switch, but a lot of people say Firis is the only one faithful to the series in terms of content. They also say Lydie & Suelle has a lot of NPCs you can't interact with, alongside a lot of open areas that can't be explored; the world is noticeably smaller and it doesn't have as much life in it.
So, I am uncertain if I really should get Lydie & Suelle or not. I just want an experience that felt as magical as Marie did again.
I would say the older games are more of the same without the paintings and new synthesis structure. All the games have that relaxing slice of life feeling. Simple characters that are cute and quirky. Its nice that the series keeps the same feeling in the games along with synthesis/alchemy and item finding along with actual battles. Kind of like the Disgaea series keeps the same feeling with demons and its unique strategy gameplay.
That's good to hear, I'm pretty down for the Atelier series being my go-to chill JRPG after this one as I try more of it when I find the time :) so far I enjoy its style :3
JRPG Jungle Me too haha I love relaxing games. But these games still make u think which is great too
Cool review. I really love the atelier games since I played and finished the atelier iris series on the ps2 and I'm also thinking about buying the ones for the Nintendo switch. It looks really interesting and cute. I might buy atelier lydie and suelle for the Nintendo switch.
i ship suelle and mathias. while the game itself didnt have any romance but you can see mathias teasing suelle with his joke about they being a couple. mathiasue. oh i like that a lot. i imagine a middle-aged king mathias sit on throne side by side with matured queen suelle. well, just my wild imagination.
I'm not sure you're going to read this but i would like your opinion on something. Basically i'm new to this series (played ryza only) and i would like to buy one. I have the option of either buying one game from the mysterious trilogy in the dx version or buying the whole Dusk dx trilogy because of the regional prices in my country. I heard nothing but good things about the dusk trilogy but i dont like time limit systems and i also dont like the fact that the first and the second game have fixed camera, but i enjoy the art style and the story seems to be better. Do you believe it is better for me to start with maybe Lydie and Suelle or should i buy the dusk trilogy instead?
As much as I loved Lydie and Suelle and the lack of time limit, I would possibly get the whole Dusk Trilogy just cause you can have a similar experience but still get the chance to go back to the earlier games (that have time limits, although easier ones). Shallie doesn't have a time limit and is the third game in the Dusk trilogy, so if you're worried, it could be a jumping in point (considering that you'd be jumping into the third entry of Mysterious if you played Lydie and Suelle anyway). Only point is I slightly prefer Lydie and Suelle as protagonists and the story quality is closer to Ryza, so if you're more in it for story, Lydie and Suelle is easier in that sense, but getting all of Dusk would be better value :3 up to you though, don't feel bad about doing either! I started with Lydie and Suelle and loved it so I think you can't go wrong either way :)
@@JRPGJungle Wow! Thank you for responding so quick! I believe i will be getting the dusk trilogy in that case and will buy the mysterious trilogy at a later date, when the price drops or when there is a sale. Your channel is great by the way. Keep up the good work!
Thank you :) and sounds like a good idea, hope you enjoy it :D I really liked the whole trilogy, so I hope you do too ^__^
Wait her name is "Soul"? I pronounced her name as "Swell".
I have bought it and it's just waiting to be played, but I feel like I should finish Lost Sphear first. I'm super exited about it. I have it on Switch and I don't think framerate or the lower quality in graphics will bug me. My switch hasn't even been docked ever and I have played over hundred hours of Xenoblade so I guess it doesn't bug me much. I was recommended beginning with Atelier Ayesha, but then I didn't get around to it and ended up buying this one as my first since my Vita won't be freed up for some time. It looks so relaxing and pretty ^^
I grew up on game boy, then gba, then after that ds so for me handheld gaming is very comfortable for me. I love my Vita too, but also my Switch ^^ I love my PS4 too, but for this type of game it's definitely handheld ^^
ah, Lost Sphear, another JRPG I need to play (think that one will be great on Switch :D)
Atelier really is relaxing and pretty :) I'm hoping they patch some of the frame rate stuff at some point! My boyfriend has the Switch version and I want to play it a second time to unlock more conversations and that would be fantastic to do on Switch :)
Totally :) I never notice framerate much, but I could totally see how it could be annoying for many people and it's sad that such things should hinder people who wants to play it on the go. Lost Sphear is perfect on Switch! I played most of Setsuna on PS4 and all I could think was how much more I would enjoy it on the go. Now I have both ^^
How do you think someone should get into these games. Would it be fine to start with this one, should i start with another?
You can definitely start with this one if you want, I did! But there are also the other games in this part of the atelier series (Sophie being the first one) if you wanna do it in order. This one is good if you like the painting premise :)
This one is soooo cheap physically on the PS4 in my area, should I cop it or the upcoming DX version would change it so much?
Depends really :3 I don’t think there are any visual updates (for PS4 anyway, not sure about Switch), but there’s extra story content (there’s events with Nelke from Nelke and the Legendary Alchemists where you can explore the area from that game) that may make it worth getting DX if you played Nelke that’ll be exclusive to DX I think :3 but if you’re just interested in playing the core game and aren’t fussed about that or costumes and stuff, go for it! Haha :)
@@JRPGJungle Thanks! Maybe i'll have the DX version but it is soooo expensive digitally, forget about physcial with its steep prices :(
Maybe it's time I go back to this series. I played several of them, always really enjoyed the gameplay. They had a habit of having way too much dialog and it felt like it was getting worse with each game. Don't know if the writing got more drawn out when they shifted to ps3 or if I was just getting bored with their style. Either way I think the last one I played was either Rorona or Totori (I think Totori) and I liked the gameplay but there was such a ridiculous amount of dialog that I had to quit. It felt like no ever stopped talking and I rarely got to play the game. How is this game with that? Do you spend more time in conversations than you elsewhere? I do miss that high level of item collection and fusion they did so well.
I get what you mean with the conversations, I remember when I first played another of Gust's games called Ar nosurge; I had to really get used to triggering so many conversations when I went to the item shop to buy one think lol Lydie and Suelle isn't too bad with this at all, a lot of the conversations are optional and displayed on the map with different systems so you can at least tell when a conversation will trigger and while you do still trigger some optional conversations automatically, they have a different kind of conversation box (the core conversation one is just a standard black bar, whereas you can see the optional conversation one around 8:24 in my video) so I liked at least knowing when ones came up that I could skip if I really wanted to. If you focus on the core stuff like I did, you can skip a lot of stuff that is just banter and focus much more on gameplay, although some side characters will be pretty under developed. But yeah, I think its better than older Gust games I've played, even if I think its something Gust seems to like doing haha I hope that helps!
Anyone know an atelier game from ps4 which is linear and doesn't have a timer nor multiple endings? I like to explore EVERYTHING in a game, and a timer always turned me away from this series. I love the first atelier Iris from ps2 because of its simplicity.
So I can't really get into sophie. Should I try this one?
The Whole Mysterious series is pretty boring and trash as a whole. Firis is the only one I kinda enjoy.
overly positive and missing that there is no time limit here + frame rate is lower than 30 on switch, movement is average at best. Considering picking up. Rock kicking and typos hold me back a bit. The bosses are intriguing otoh.
Amzn sayz it is Eu-english, and not US-english, which is great.
I personally can't get into this game. Picked it up earlier for the Switch and it just screams mediocre to me. It doesn't help that the game was lazily ported to said console, considering that something that looks like an early PS3 title has massive performance issues. Character designs are great tho, and the non ingame moments are great(like when Lydie's outfit catches on fire and the cauldron "explodes")
Fair enough, I do wish the Switch port was a little better visually as well :3 glad you enjoyed the characters at least :)
imagine me, billy mays, cuddling up with sophie in our underwear
mmmm
You must have said "Atelier Lydie and Suelle" some 20 times in the 10 min video. While it has a certain rhythm to it, it gets tedious hearing it over and over. Honestly, most of them can be omitted as we all know you are talking about "this game" being reviewed here.
Fair enough, I think it did cross my mind when I was editing the video but I wanted to get it up. Usually I try shortening the title but I couldn’t work out a way to do it for this one (I could’ve said ‘the game’ or ‘it’ as well, probably just didn’t realise when writing)
Will be mindful for it in my next video, thank you :)
Great review. I personally found it disappointing in comparison to earlier Atelier titles but it was good on its own. I wish there were more party members that were new. Lucia really should have been one.
Most of my favorite moments in Lydie were the events that tied up loose ends and gave closure to characters from Firis and Sophie. I sadly didn't find either Alt or Mathias that interesting.
But i did enjoy the Twins and their main storyline.
I do recommend going back to Firis. Thats my favorite of the 'Mysterious' trilogy of Atelier PS4 games.