6/11/21: Alienware has responded! Here's some extra info on the X15/X17. 1) There is no QHD option on the X17 (typo on spec sheet). The resolution listed is wrong. It says UHD next to it, which stands for 4K, which is correct. No QHD on 17.3". Sorry for any confusion! 2) Alienware confirms X15 has soldered ram, while the X17 has upgradeable RAM slots. 3) The configs without Advanced Optimus come with regular Optimus, which means good battery life--but this will likely caused reduced performance when playing CPU bound games, especially at 1080P and on low settings--i.e. competitive shooters where you want to optimize frame rate. I think its likely not a huge issue at 4K (or downsampled to QHD) resolutions. But for those of you that want to maximize performance at 1080P for e-sports, get the Adv. Optimus version. Quote from Alienware "iGPU control internal panel through eDP mux dGPU control HDMP/DP/Type-C port A by HW design iGPU control Type-C port B by HW design" ^I like this above, since it gives the user an option for good battery life while presenting. 4) They have not been specific about CPU TDP, just saying the standard 45W from intel, but I am expecting higher TDP, closer to 80W+ if history repeats itself. 5) They have not clarified if they will allow undervolting, but it sounds like they will on the "K" models, including overclocking as expected. That's all the info I have so far worth sharing.
I agree with you on almost every point. For me this laptop have 2 downsides: its absence of num pad and no availability of high refresh rate QHD. If you add num pad to this laptop and QHD 240hz screen it would be absolute best for me. It is very expensive and customer wants it to fulfill all his needs. I guess they removed num pad because of the whole cooling system (air intake vents on top) but maybe in future models they will be able to shift them further to the sides and squeeze num pad there.
I can't wait for the review of the thermals. X17 looks so good, but expensive! I think it's only worth if the thermals is incredible. btw, there's already a timespy score of 11,540 for an X17. Is that bad?
@@t_dappa i do carry on my backpack, and i dont think its that heavy or big bro, at least for me but im pretty sure that alienware a51m r2 isnt that big has reviweres make it seem, i can pick it up with one hand, my girlfriend has asus g14 and yhea seems like a toy side to side, but its not that big i guarantee tou that.
@@SMtimeable она есть на обычном Legion 5, и там тоже отличное охлаждение, так что не вижу проблемы. Я сам бы хотел Full HD, но на 16:10 экране, потому что для меня 1600p\2k это слишком много. Хуже производительность в играх и автономность.
Great video. I almost ordered the same model as you but I am waiting for June 15th after speaking with dell/alienware for the other customizations. I am hoping for an x17 with optional dark side of the moon color, no cherry mix as I find it to loud for on the go, and also a qhd display. 4k is nice but no need on 17inch screen. I am also debating the 11980hk or 11800h as the performance difference is minimal for the cost. What are your thoughts. Also I think the higher price isn't so bad when comparing the x17 to the 2021 razerblade pro 17 also with a quad fan design and the zephyrus duo. From what I have seen this new quad fan design dramatically decreases thermals which for me is better than a few more fps at high ass temps. The new cooling enhancements and thermal performance alone is enough for me. I had an m15r3 with i9 and 2080 super and it just got way to hot all the time, the m17r3 performed much better because of the extra head room inside. I will not get another 15inch gaming laptop.
Hey. Thank you for an amazing review. I was really hoping to see one since I want to buy one of the models. Please keep us updated when you do actual testing on the unit. Also, when are you going to receive your unit?
My guess is that they pulled the numpad for two reasons. 1. They may have needed the room for more fan intake for those 4 fans. 2. It seems like the design this time around is trying to allow them to share components between the 15 and 17 - as well as keep the interior black on ALL models, even if they offer a black exterior in the future.
Awesome video! Thanks for the insight I can’t wait for your review to decide if I should buy it or not. Honestly I was kind of disappointed that they didn’t announce another Area 51 m model as I would’ve bought that one instead.
Just bought the X17, sheer specs alone suggest that it is one of the most powerful laptops on the market currently! My build was $3,200, and it is loaded! Any other laptop I have been researching with specs even close to the X17 is well over $4,000! Cant wait to get it! Thanks for the review!
honestly I'm waiting on your M15 R6 review. I haven't found a single review on R6 so far. The statics are good on paper but I've been waiting for your special review
I would go for gp66 if you want a high performance 15 inch, it's killing it in performance to price ratio. If you're looking for a qhd panel, get the L5p, both are better than the m15r6.
Man what a time to be a gaming laptop reviewer. There is sooo many options with new cpu and gpu and even good amd gpu now. The only problem is for buyers there is soooo many options. It's hard to decide. The spreadsheet helps tho!!!
That was a deal-breaker for me, too. I have been waiting several months for an 11th gen intel 17 inch Alienware to be released, and then they go and remove this very basic but crucial feature? At this price point, it should be able to double as a productivity machine and eliminating the num pad kills that possibility.
@@christianalvarez5409 Great explanation. Razer did the same thing. Alienware is telling people who use laptops for productivity, "We don't want your money."
Guys the lower end pricing is X15 rtx 3060: 1999 dollars X15 rtx 3070: 2400 dollars X15 rtx 3080: 3000 dollars plus The advanced razer blade costs about the same and the new Asus M16 will cost roughly the same too. It's not overpriced for intel skus
Also, you HAVE TO buy the 360hz 1080p panel just to get a MUX switch. Unless you plan on using an external monitor at a stationary setup, it doesn't make sense to buy it. But I guess different strokes for different folks. I know that people have different metrics with what they would want in a laptop.
Could not wait for a full review of this laptop. ^^ Planning on buying a new one to replace my current M17 R1, probably by November during Black Friday or even after CES next year. Really interested in the X17. It all sounds so promising. Though I am quite disappointed that the Gallium Sillicone is only on the CPU and not also on the GPU unlike with the new all AMD based laptops from ASUS, and the lack of a QHD display which would be Perfect for the hardware. But other than that, this could be the perfect laptop to replace my current one.
Hey Brad. Great analysis of the specs. I agree with you that the absence of a num-pad and high refresh QHD options is sad. My question is will the X17 have a normal chiclet style keyboard option opposed to the mechanical keyboard as it's the only available option on the website. EDIT : I have another question that does the ThunderBolt 4 Port support Display Output ?
Ordered my x17 fully fully loaded with everything including warranty extensions. The only annoying thing is no numeric keypad on it, really annoying but a small con. The fact that I could even get a top spec was any easy decision. Expecting great things, let's hope!
@@ronervine the idea is that because you split your data across two devices (that your computer automatically does) you get better performance because the bottleneck isn't one pcie lane but two.
Anyone who recommends X15 is not the sharpest tool in the shed or is in on it with Dell. RTX 3080 and 3070 with 90watt base TDP is ridiculously low. It is lower than any other laptop on the market. Yet this laptop is $3.5K. You are way better off getting M15R4 or M15R5 (R5 with QHD panel for video and photo editing - that 99% DCI P3 is a must). The X17 is very nice , but also very expensive. You can get M17R4 at Best Buy with 3070 (140Watt) and 10th Gen Intel for $2250. My personal take is no laptop should be more expensive than 3K, unless you work on Wall St and I don't. If you are spending over 3K on a computer , it might as well be an RTX 3090 desktop monster PC (or 3080 TI).
19:13 thin and *light* ? I thought it's weight was above 3 KG which is above most gaming laptops nowdays? The cooling looks impressive though, finally 4 fans. I think the only manufacturer who did that in a thin laptop before was Razer with their PRO version, though they had to sacrifice battery size in order to put 2 more fans inside.
" iGPU control Type-C port B by HW design". This is awesome if you want to connect an external monitor while keeping temps lower (obviously, not for gaming).
I own a m17 R4 with the 3070 and the i7 10870H CPU. I get right around a 11000 Time Spy score with the older CPU. This machine also runs at 125+15 TDP so in essence the same GPU. The he thermals are great in the R4. I rarely get above 60C on the CPU and 70 on the GPU. This machine should have no issues getting above 11000 Time Spy score. BTW I purchased mine new during a crazy sale at Dell about a month ago for 1550.00 USD + sales tax. So a great bang for the buck.
I'm keeping an eye on the X17.. Could be a potential upgrade from my Area 51m R1 with 9700k and RTX 2080. The panel options are pretty good too. Though 300 nit peak brightness on the FHD is a little sad. 400 or 450 would be nice. I'm mostly curious about about performance versus something like my Area 51m. Still probably gonna hold out on a new laptop though until Nvidia releases their next gen RTX cards. By then maybe Intel will catch up some more to AMD and give me a variety of options. Can't wait to see some benchmarks on these new 11th Gen Intel mobile chips though. I absolutely hate Dells software, but damn the Alienware laptops are sexy looking and offer the performance to back it up. Dell isn't the only one with bad software.. I'm looking at you Razer.. O_O
X17 is definitely the better of the 2, but I can't justify the extra price premium, my R5 5900HX, 32GB 3200, 1TB, 3070, 360hz 1080P badass laptop arrives tomorrow :D
Note that the light up track pad is only on 3080 options for both models. I also believe that the vents near true keyboard are for the fan intakes. 17 looks like there is speakers grills similar to the m17 R4.
I would buy the x17 but it has no qhd option.. and no num pad I don’t get what they were thinking.. at least the x15 has qhd but then lacks performance/power. So now I can’t choose.
Hello again, I spoke with you some time ago when I was making a decision between the AMD vs. Intel gaming laptops. I went with the Alienware M17 R4 and have been happy. I have an oppertunity to turn this one in and go for the X17 and I want to know your thoughts. I don't expect life changing gameplay improvements although I'm sure going from a 10th gen. i7 to a 11th gen. i9 will be somewhat significant (same RTX 3080 in both) . I exclusively play COD Warzone and it seems pretty CPU intensive so that'll be nice. RAM speed upgrade will be nice but probably not a game changer. I do however expect a major improvement in the thermals and that's a big deal when taking the longevity of the machine into account. I am wondering if you have any word on when the higher refresh rate models will be available? COD although benefiting aesthetically from a 4k display would not be feasible from a frame-rate/gameplay perspective with 120hz. I'd appreciate any feedback you have with respect to the upgrade on machines and what to expect. Thanks again for all that you do, your channel is a mainstay for many of us and I really look forward to your perspective.
High refresh rate RTX 3070 model is available now from BestBuy. Check my spreadsheet for the link. If you already have M17 R4, then it only might be worth the upgrade if it doesn't cost too much or if you have a fat wallet that can take the abuse. It is hard to say how much of a performance improvement it will be.
1) How's the maintainability? Is the motherboard flipped? Are the RAMs soldered or replaceable? 2) How's the alienware's BIOS? Is it as customizable as Clevo/MSI, or is it locked down?
I am with you, I hope the x17 comes with a possible qhd monitor as the 4k 120 is nice but a 165hx qhd panel with g sync and advanced optimus would be a much much better screen to have. but i can just turn some settings down if needed to get a few extra fps in 4k or just run the game at 1440p. I dont really do a lot of esports gaming so its not a big deal for me as longs as i am getting 60-120 fps on ultra settings in most titles in either 4k or 1440p.
Hey Gizmo, I really wonder if they really going to kill off Alienware Amplifier since I just bought the m17 r4 recently. Because whats the point of adding the port for it. I really dont want them to kill it off just yet even though it has a thunderbolt 3 port. I seen a lot of people talking about it in forums.
BestBuy has a X17 3070 version for $2700 shipped once available. I'm hoping they will be delivered on the 15th. Its the FHD 360Hz Screen with 16GB 3200 Ram. Not sure what keyboard it comes with.
Just got word from the Dell Rep on BestBuy's website that the x17 version they sell does come with the Cherry-Mx low profile per key mechanical keyboard, 125 watt 3070 and upgradable ram up to 64GB.
Great information and I appreciate the info and commentary. Have you looked at the HP Omen 17 2021 in comparison to the x17? I'm trying to decide between the two. Thanks!
The thing about the X15 is that although it’s as thin as a Razer blade, it weighs a lot more. The 2021 Blade weighs 4.4 pounds. The X15 is 5.1 pounds, as much as Strix Scar. So the performance per unit weight isn’t very high at all.
Judging by what we see on the marketing slides, the motherboard is inverted. I'd pass and would recommend everyone else to do the same honestly. MSI and Legion 5 pro laptops are far more practical.
True. Only those who are oblivious would buy this 3000usd laptop! Look at Legion 5 Pro, it's an all-rounder and the price is 1700-1900usd!! Oh saints, what are these people doing.
@@GizmoSlipTech I guess you don't need to clean and repaste the laptop often. I do 24\7 rendering on my laptop and game on is very often, so I need to clean it every few months, in fact many gaming laptop owners do. Having an upside down motherboard would be hell.
I got the option with the i7. My old 17 r4 couldn't cope with the maxed out CPU and GPU so this time I opted for the big GPU and the smaller CPU, hoping for less thermal throttling..
@@cheddle88 IDK. Comparable? Desktop cpu to mobile? And if it's 10-15% better better that's insane. Desktop 2080 vs mobile 3080. IDK. Guess we will have to wait and find out in July.
G15 I used for a week and when cleaning to return I couldnt wipe my palm grease off. I own 17r4 and is easy to clean im assuming the x17 I bought will be as well.
The X series with their high TDP will not be my design of choice, especially equipped with 3080 GPU. The M15 R5s are more reasonable (including the pricing).
People complaining about no numpad, while keyboard enthusiasts choose to forgo them on desktop systems. Besides, overall keyboard and touchpad operating comfort is compromised with them squeezing in a numpad.
tbh either of these could power a 21:9 3.5K ultrawide no problem, so personally I wouldn't even bother with a tower if I had this. Just get a nice monitor and a head pad, good to go. =D
I ordered my x15 r1, the tricked out version, on June 1. The order details and packing slip say rtx 3080 16 GB.(!) However, the item went offline on website but came back a few hours later and showed rtx 3080 8GB. Wonder what I will get?
@Flash Vinnig lol I agree his purchase choice wasn't the best, honestly should've just gone for the x17 or the x15 3070 but firstly, you don't even know he got the QHD display and secondly it's still a decent enough graphics card and he can get great framerates and even when the card starts showing its age, he just needs to turn off rtx to still get a decent framerate. He's not getting the best bang for his buck but it's not a complete waste of money
@Flash Vinnig @Istafa Niazi . You make good points, but you're coming at it from hardcore gaming perspective. Also, let's wait for the performance numbers before passing judgement. I would actually prefer the x17 with 4k as I will be doing mobile music production as well. But for mobility and the need to do things other than gaming as well, the x15 makes sense. The x17 is probably 9 lb including the massive brick. Try lugging that around and traveling with it. Ultimately, it's all a losing game as they will depreciate like crazy once next year's model comes out. It's a conspiracy! Still, I'd rather enjoy a couple of years with a premium laptop like an alienware or razer over the cheap throwaway crap quality Asus laptops like the G15.
thanks on pointing out x17 keyboard not being full layout and copying x15 also alienware is giving temperature power lock for CPU, so you can bypass intel thermal limit of 100C and make processor operate in specific temperature limits(sacrificing some CPU perfomance) the range is 100 degree stock(intel) and 15degree down bias(85c max) once set to 85C, the laptop will throttle power and its power profile and cooling profile to always be at 85C max on load but, keyboard still puts me off as i need a lot of numpad especially lenovo numpad
Would like to see Alienware come out with an all AMD Ryzen+Radeon in the next gen of m15. Seems the m15 r5 needs a little quality upgrade in the speakers/trackpad from reviews as well. Wish they kept the power plug in the back on the new X..
The cherry mx keyboard isn't available on the x15 for whatever reason even though the R5 has the option. My guess is the laptop is just too thin for it to work? That fucking sucks.
damn, this is kinda disappointing. I was hoping the "X" stood for 10, as in 16 : 10 aspect ratio screens. Guess I'm still holding out for that Legion 7i later this month...hopefully.
24:12 they had to prioritize CPU thermals just because there is freaking hot and thermally inefficient "intel inside". They are simply forced to cool this heater somehow.
Ordered mines on the 1st as well. I'm a little torn with the current 4k vs the 360hz 1080p that will be coming out on June 15th. I might modify my order on the 15th. Do you know what the exact max output the thunderbolt port can do for an external monitor? I'm not very tech savvy, and I'm wondering if this has no problem outputting to the Samsung G9 ultrawide. Good work on your analysis based on the specs you were provided. By far the most information and advice online to date. Keep up the good work.
Your current order may be in production or already being sent to you by the 15th. If it's in production I don't think you can cancel. I'd check with dell customer support to be certain.
@@2Sexy4MyMusic thank you for that information. If that is the case, I’ll just be happy with this 4K model. However, i might have a small chance because the invoice states that they are shipping on June 29th and estimated receipt at July 6th.
@@javerosales2072 fingers crossed. I have an x15 on order and might switch if the new configurations come out before it goes into production. I'm actually expecting mine to go into production any time and wouldn't rely on the guestimates. I pre-ordered the r5 ryzen edition on May 6 with estimated delivery July 2. It shipped on May 16!
GizmoSlipTech hI from London ' I'm getting the X17 the 3070 with the 360 screen update is this the best allround spec ? And also can you please let me known what you when't for in the end ? cheers .
The RAM is not soldered to the board and user upgradable as mentioned in their introduction I watched the other day. I am steering towards the x 17 myself
A huge possible heads up. I checked the service manual for the x15 and there is nothing about replacing memory, leading me to believe it's all soldered on so ya need to decide upfront. Could you please ask for confirmation?
Interesting, but in those price target they have to be top on all aspects; waiting for a testing review to know about speakers, battery life, thermals and so on...
I might go with the x17...or do u think I should wait? I'm thinking they will have an update for the area 51 soon enough no? Or should I just go with the x17...it's already backordered on best buy lol
I don’t know if they will refresh Area 51M. I’m not sure if it was selling well enough for them to continue with it. Simply put, desktop CPUs from Intel kinda of sucked recently, which hurt the Area 51Ms sales I think. I’d love to see a Ryzen version with the Ryzen 5950X CPU instead. Not sure if that’s possible given the TDP requirements though... I don’t know if it’s worth waiting or not. Really up to you, technology will always get better. I’d recommend buying when you think you’ll get a laptop you’ll enjoy and use for a long time.
A step backwards in the upgradeable department in my opinion. Even my old Alienware 13 R3 allows me to upgrade not only my ram, but ssd and wireless card. And the 13 R3 is a lot smaller than the X15 R1.
is this laptop that we talking about. a 4k 17 inch is not worth it. I'm still have no dicision if I should buy x17 3080 16gb vram. kinda overkill for 1080p and then again 4k on laptop is out of quesiton.
23:43 just the pure fact: this machine would be much more powerful and had much better thermal if it could have AMD CPU, which is times more efficient. Shame that they gave us AMD only this year and only inside m1* R5, which isn't an absolute top machine now, since they introduced X series. Great shame.
X15 doesn't seem worth it at all, the X17 could have potential but no QHD display option kind of kills that, it really needs the 165Hz QHD display lots of other companies are using as 4k is useless in a gaming laptop and a 1080p esports display with a high end 3080 config is also a waste of the 3080's capability. The excessive price also kind of kills it's potential, I do however absolutely love all the ports being on the back as I hate side ports because the cables get in the way.
I ordered x17 for $3800 + tax. I was waiting for s17 or legion 7. But don’t even know when they will be available and even if this will cost +$500 more than those at similar spec... this is better built quality with highest tdp and cherry mechanical and how they brought back rgb touch pad.
@@rafaeldelgado4985 LoL, same exact here. I sold my 2080 Ti, 9900 few months ago (after +2 year use, I pretty much got all back) and I didn't had gaming pc and since desktop card are so hard to find even laptops with 3070/3080 were impossible to find due to scalpers, and few weeks ago I was able got "returned" g15 from best buy for like 1700. (I was hoping to get Scar 17 with 3080 or hopping Legion 7 to come out earlier, and day after I picked up g15 (I didn't even opened box and saw clip for x17 and s17 (Asus) getting released, and I got it as soon as it was able to be preordered. I am sure I will be paying +$500 for similar spec s17 but I can make +$500 in a day so I rather have this more superior x17.
@@joesmith3941 Hey Joe, the R5 felt awesome and performed well... But it would frequently exceed 100°C in games and during any benchmark... While I'm sure this is in spec, I'm just not comfortable with that. The top of the keyboard hurt to touch... So I returned it, especially with the 10% locked/reduced 3070 performance (hopefully to be fixed via patch)... Figured if I'm paying all that I want better cooling and all the performance I've paid for... Holding out for the x15 with high hopes!
The theory is you can render a lot of fps, but only 120 fps will actually show on the screen. The difference is noticeable while playing, but it will only display 120 frames per second.
Sorry if you mentioned it in the video, but would you recommend buying an x15 over an m15 r5 or r6? I already decided that i want a 15‘‘ one and just as i decided that I’d like to get the m15r5 this thing comes out So would you recommend paying that extra price?
For best gaming performance in 15” chassis, skip X15. If you want Alienware, Go for the M15 R4 probably (higher TDP) especially if you can get it on sale right now. But other good alternatives at lower price points would be MSI GE66/GP66 and Aorus 15P-style points will obviously vary a lot though
@Flash Vinnig okay thank you so much for the nice help. And I was kind of leaning towards the r5 instead of r4 because of the price difference, is the r4 better than r5 for that much more money? Thanks again
X15 doesn't look that good, looks like it's super expensive just because of being thin (but still heavy). I would go for Asus Strix Scar, Asus Zephyrus, or Lenovo Legion 5 Pro instead. On the other hand, X17 looks great! but the current top-end fully-loaded price is too much for my wallet and I am not that hardcore/serious gamer. So, I will wait for lower models. Looking forward to: - i7-11800H - RTX 3070 - 2 x 16 GB, 3200 MHz (I don't think 3467 MHz will be much different) - 1TB NVMe - PCIe3, but 2TB is PCIe4 (If the price is not much different, I will get 2TB) - 4K UHD I think FHD is old for 17.3" now and I don't need high refresh rate either. Personally, I prefer QHD as you said but it's not available. So, I will just go with the best screen because it's important and the thing we have to see/watch every day. I always spend some money on the screen and 100% Adobe RGB is amazing. I hope this configuration (or something close) is available and brings the price down to under 3k. I don't want to step down further to RTX3060 or FHD screen for a laptop of this caliber. Time to save money for months to come~ I usually buy a good laptop and use it for long. My current laptop is XPS15 9550 (i7-6700HQ + 960GT), I use it for years and get the most out of it. I think it's about time to get the new one :)
The BestBuy config pre-order is at 2.5k www.bestbuy.com/site/alienware-x17-r1-17-3-360hz-fhd-gaming-laptop-intel-core-i7-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3070-1tb-ssd-white/6464985.p?skuId=6464985 It's pretty on point, considering the base model starts at $2,100 (which is probably RTX3060 with the lowest FHD screen). Man, I can't wait for 15th June to see how much the 4K UHD screen will cost. The 16 GB RAM is a bit too low, but I can upgrade them later.
UPDATE: I placed my order today, here we go! - i7-11800H - RTX 3080 16GB GDDR6 - 32GB DDR4 3200MHz - 512GB PCIe NVMe - 4K UHD 120Hz - CherryMX mechanical KB - Windows 10 Pro Ended up getting RTX 3080 because I think 16GB GDDR6 makes more sense for the 4K UHD display. When we buy a laptop this expensive (~$3,000), the $300 is not that different anymore. Also, a good GPU is very rare and valuable these days, I go for it while I have a chance. We can use it for mining a bit and RTX3080 will pay its cost. On the other hand, I did not go for i9-11980HK because it has the same Core/Thread. It's just a faster clock speed with higher power consumption; the difference will be minimal. The same for XMP RAM, since I also don't play e-sport titles. The laptop is expected to arrive late next month. Man, I cannot wait for it.
6/11/21: Alienware has responded! Here's some extra info on the X15/X17.
1) There is no QHD option on the X17 (typo on spec sheet). The resolution listed is wrong. It says UHD next to it, which stands for 4K, which is correct. No QHD on 17.3". Sorry for any confusion!
2) Alienware confirms X15 has soldered ram, while the X17 has upgradeable RAM slots.
3) The configs without Advanced Optimus come with regular Optimus, which means good battery life--but this will likely caused reduced performance when playing CPU bound games, especially at 1080P and on low settings--i.e. competitive shooters where you want to optimize frame rate. I think its likely not a huge issue at 4K (or downsampled to QHD) resolutions. But for those of you that want to maximize performance at 1080P for e-sports, get the Adv. Optimus version.
Quote from Alienware "iGPU control internal panel through eDP mux
dGPU control HDMP/DP/Type-C port A by HW design
iGPU control Type-C port B by HW design"
^I like this above, since it gives the user an option for good battery life while presenting.
4) They have not been specific about CPU TDP, just saying the standard 45W from intel, but I am expecting higher TDP, closer to 80W+ if history repeats itself.
5) They have not clarified if they will allow undervolting, but it sounds like they will on the "K" models, including overclocking as expected.
That's all the info I have so far worth sharing.
Interesting. what's your main laptop right now?
Hey Gizmo, quick question. What does the ‘premium’ column mean in your spreadsheet? Nice Video btw!
Scar 15.
Hey Sid, check the bottom of the sheet. I believe I have detailed descriptions down there
@@GizmoSlipTech Thanks Gizmo. The spreadsheet is a godsend btw!
I agree with you on almost every point. For me this laptop have 2 downsides: its absence of num pad and no availability of high refresh rate QHD. If you add num pad to this laptop and QHD 240hz screen it would be absolute best for me. It is very expensive and customer wants it to fulfill all his needs. I guess they removed num pad because of the whole cooling system (air intake vents on top) but maybe in future models they will be able to shift them further to the sides and squeeze num pad there.
Just bought the x17, maxed on dell, used your affiliate link. Hopefully enough people do it to get you a free x17 ;) Thanks for the content
Thanks for the support 👊. Hopefully this X17 turns out to be as awesome in real life as it looks on paper! Cheers
Me too, excited to get it... 2nd July
Ordered it with the i7 11800h, rtx 3080, uhd screen, and the cherry mx keyboard.
Total was $2994 shipped. Expensive but this thing looks sick.
Hey got same specs, but with 1tb and 32gb for 3170$. How did you get yours for so cheap?
@@LeFatalpotato I used a 10% off coupon
@@IPenguinTeethI same! Did you get the Rakuten thing too? I'm still 200$ up lol.
I can't wait for the review of the thermals. X17 looks so good, but expensive! I think it's only worth if the thermals is incredible.
btw, there's already a timespy score of 11,540 for an X17. Is that bad?
Yeah, that score is bad (should be in the mid 13000’s to low 14000’s), this thing thermal throttles to all hell.
Impressive power on X17, but I VERY much doubt that thermals will be as good as on Legion 5 pro or Legion 7. Thanks for the video!
Если бы на 5 про была опция full hd и 16:9 был бы охуенный ноут
Thermals on legion are normal dude lel and i can get better thermals with my alienware a51m r2
@@shadowform1264 bro. Come on. No way in hell you just tried to compare a laptop you can carry in your bag to an a51m lmaooo
@@t_dappa i do carry on my backpack, and i dont think its that heavy or big bro, at least for me but im pretty sure that alienware a51m r2 isnt that big has reviweres make it seem, i can pick it up with one hand, my girlfriend has asus g14 and yhea seems like a toy side to side, but its not that big i guarantee tou that.
@@SMtimeable она есть на обычном Legion 5, и там тоже отличное охлаждение, так что не вижу проблемы. Я сам бы хотел Full HD, но на 16:10 экране, потому что для меня 1600p\2k это слишком много. Хуже производительность в играх и автономность.
Great video. I almost ordered the same model as you but I am waiting for June 15th after speaking with dell/alienware for the other customizations. I am hoping for an x17 with optional dark side of the moon color, no cherry mix as I find it to loud for on the go, and also a qhd display. 4k is nice but no need on 17inch screen. I am also debating the 11980hk or 11800h as the performance difference is minimal for the cost. What are your thoughts. Also I think the higher price isn't so bad when comparing the x17 to the 2021 razerblade pro 17 also with a quad fan design and the zephyrus duo. From what I have seen this new quad fan design dramatically decreases thermals which for me is better than a few more fps at high ass temps. The new cooling enhancements and thermal performance alone is enough for me. I had an m15r3 with i9 and 2080 super and it just got way to hot all the time, the m17r3 performed much better because of the extra head room inside. I will not get another 15inch gaming laptop.
Hey. Thank you for an amazing review. I was really hoping to see one since I want to buy one of the models.
Please keep us updated when you do actual testing on the unit.
Also, when are you going to receive your unit?
Totally agree on the fact that they removed the number pad (which I use a lot for work) and wasted a lot of space on the X17. Very disappointing.
My guess is that they pulled the numpad for two reasons. 1. They may have needed the room for more fan intake for those 4 fans. 2. It seems like the design this time around is trying to allow them to share components between the 15 and 17 - as well as keep the interior black on ALL models, even if they offer a black exterior in the future.
Awesome video! Thanks for the insight I can’t wait for your review to decide if I should buy it or not. Honestly I was kind of disappointed that they didn’t announce another Area 51 m model as I would’ve bought that one instead.
Yes!
Just bought the X17, sheer specs alone suggest that it is one of the most powerful laptops on the market currently! My build was $3,200, and it is loaded! Any other laptop I have been researching with specs even close to the X17 is well over $4,000! Cant wait to get it! Thanks for the review!
SAME , mine comes in next month so excited
honestly I'm waiting on your M15 R6 review. I haven't found a single review on R6 so far. The statics are good on paper but I've been waiting for your special review
I would go for gp66 if you want a high performance 15 inch, it's killing it in performance to price ratio. If you're looking for a qhd panel, get the L5p, both are better than the m15r6.
Man what a time to be a gaming laptop reviewer. There is sooo many options with new cpu and gpu and even good amd gpu now. The only problem is for buyers there is soooo many options. It's hard to decide. The spreadsheet helps tho!!!
I will pass on X17 because of no numeric keypad. I need it for work also. Going instead for Gigabyte Aero 17
That was a deal-breaker for me, too.
I have been waiting several months for an 11th gen intel 17 inch Alienware to be released, and then they go and remove this very basic but crucial feature? At this price point, it should be able to double as a productivity machine and eliminating the num pad kills that possibility.
@@christianalvarez5409 Great explanation. Razer did the same thing. Alienware is telling people who use laptops for productivity, "We don't want your money."
Guys the lower end pricing is
X15 rtx 3060: 1999 dollars
X15 rtx 3070: 2400 dollars
X15 rtx 3080: 3000 dollars plus
The advanced razer blade costs about the same and the new Asus M16 will cost roughly the same too. It's not overpriced for intel skus
It's overpriced cuz of low tdp
@@dee_hfgblank1617 razer blade is also low tdp (even lower)
@@2Sexy4MyMusic yeah razer blade is also overpriced
X17= No QHD screen, no interest...
the omen17 will have a QHD panel though
Also, you HAVE TO buy the 360hz 1080p panel just to get a MUX switch. Unless you plan on using an external monitor at a stationary setup, it doesn't make sense to buy it.
But I guess different strokes for different folks. I know that people have different metrics with what they would want in a laptop.
Could not wait for a full review of this laptop. ^^ Planning on buying a new one to replace my current M17 R1, probably by November during Black Friday or even after CES next year. Really interested in the X17. It all sounds so promising. Though I am quite disappointed that the Gallium Sillicone is only on the CPU and not also on the GPU unlike with the new all AMD based laptops from ASUS, and the lack of a QHD display which would be Perfect for the hardware.
But other than that, this could be the perfect laptop to replace my current one.
Hey Brad. Great analysis of the specs. I agree with you that the absence of a num-pad and high refresh QHD options is sad. My question is will the X17 have a normal chiclet style keyboard option opposed to the mechanical keyboard as it's the only available option on the website.
EDIT : I have another question that does the ThunderBolt 4 Port support Display Output ?
Ordered my x17 fully fully loaded with everything including warranty extensions. The only annoying thing is no numeric keypad on it, really annoying but a small con. The fact that I could even get a top spec was any easy decision. Expecting great things, let's hope!
Get a USB port and then hook up a gaming numpad to it
@@PimpCatTV good plan
I am really close to pulling the trigger on it with 4 tb raid0 config
@@kanodogg May I ask the benefit of Raid0 configuration over standard? Kindest thanks in advance :)
@@ronervine the idea is that because you split your data across two devices (that your computer automatically does) you get better performance because the bottleneck isn't one pcie lane but two.
Anyone who recommends X15 is not the sharpest tool in the shed or is in on it with Dell. RTX 3080 and 3070 with 90watt base TDP is ridiculously low. It is lower than any other laptop on the market. Yet this laptop is $3.5K. You are way better off getting M15R4 or M15R5 (R5 with QHD panel for video and photo editing - that 99% DCI P3 is a must). The X17 is very nice , but also very expensive. You can get M17R4 at Best Buy with 3070 (140Watt) and 10th Gen Intel for $2250. My personal take is no laptop should be more expensive than 3K, unless you work on Wall St and I don't. If you are spending over 3K on a computer , it might as well be an RTX 3090 desktop monster PC (or 3080 TI).
Hey Gizmo, quick question. What does the ‘premium’ column mean in your spreadsheet? Nice Video btw!
Might be referring to the build quality of the laptop. Like does it feel nice and study
@@ChippyIVI That’s what I guessed. Wanted to confirm. Thanks!
Is it better to get m17 in i9 or i7 ?
@@iZacq get the i9
Please make a Scar 15 long term review!!
Good idea :)
I downloaded the manual for the x17...seems like it has removable RAM...impressive considering the thickness
19:13 thin and *light* ? I thought it's weight was above 3 KG which is above most gaming laptops nowdays? The cooling looks impressive though, finally 4 fans. I think the only manufacturer who did that in a thin laptop before was Razer with their PRO version, though they had to sacrifice battery size in order to put 2 more fans inside.
Yeah, not light! Misspoke there!
" iGPU control Type-C port B by HW design". This is awesome if you want to connect an external monitor while keeping temps lower (obviously, not for gaming).
Man im w8ing for this review so bad!!!
I just ordered the x17 for my bday today and am excited! Thank you for the review 😁 Do I need a cooling pad with this? If so, do you recommend one?
What is the waiting period for x17
@@1DYLIN1 mine said end of July but I have heard Dell is actually faster than there estimates. We shall see.
@@1DYLIN1 usually I got my order within 10 to 14 days, but this one is new so maybe it'll come a little later than usual
But we're talking about a Dell's product and that make me real sad 😔
Facts
Great video,waiting the video of the m17 r6
I own a m17 R4 with the 3070 and the i7 10870H CPU. I get right around a 11000 Time Spy score with the older CPU. This machine also runs at 125+15 TDP so in essence the same GPU. The he thermals are great in the R4. I rarely get above 60C on the CPU and 70 on the GPU. This machine should have no issues getting above 11000 Time Spy score. BTW I purchased mine new during a crazy sale at Dell about a month ago for 1550.00 USD + sales tax. So a great bang for the buck.
I'm keeping an eye on the X17.. Could be a potential upgrade from my Area 51m R1 with 9700k and RTX 2080. The panel options are pretty good too. Though 300 nit peak brightness on the FHD is a little sad. 400 or 450 would be nice. I'm mostly curious about about performance versus something like my Area 51m. Still probably gonna hold out on a new laptop though until Nvidia releases their next gen RTX cards. By then maybe Intel will catch up some more to AMD and give me a variety of options. Can't wait to see some benchmarks on these new 11th Gen Intel mobile chips though. I absolutely hate Dells software, but damn the Alienware laptops are sexy looking and offer the performance to back it up. Dell isn't the only one with bad software.. I'm looking at you Razer.. O_O
X17 is definitely the better of the 2, but I can't justify the extra price premium, my R5 5900HX, 32GB 3200, 1TB, 3070, 360hz 1080P badass laptop arrives tomorrow :D
Note that the light up track pad is only on 3080 options for both models. I also believe that the vents near true keyboard are for the fan intakes. 17 looks like there is speakers grills similar to the m17 R4.
I would buy the x17 but it has no qhd option.. and no num pad I don’t get what they were thinking.. at least the x15 has qhd but then lacks performance/power. So now I can’t choose.
And ports
The X17 have 4k 120hz screen option
Yah I know. I personally don’t want 4K on a 17 inch screen to small for it. 2k happy medium for that size screen and rather have the 240hz
Hello again, I spoke with you some time ago when I was making a decision between the AMD vs. Intel gaming laptops. I went with the Alienware M17 R4 and have been happy. I have an oppertunity to turn this one in and go for the X17 and I want to know your thoughts. I don't expect life changing gameplay improvements although I'm sure going from a 10th gen. i7 to a 11th gen. i9 will be somewhat significant (same RTX 3080 in both) . I exclusively play COD Warzone and it seems pretty CPU intensive so that'll be nice. RAM speed upgrade will be nice but probably not a game changer. I do however expect a major improvement in the thermals and that's a big deal when taking the longevity of the machine into account. I am wondering if you have any word on when the higher refresh rate models will be available? COD although benefiting aesthetically from a 4k display would not be feasible from a frame-rate/gameplay perspective with 120hz. I'd appreciate any feedback you have with respect to the upgrade on machines and what to expect. Thanks again for all that you do, your channel is a mainstay for many of us and I really look forward to your perspective.
High refresh rate RTX 3070 model is available now from BestBuy. Check my spreadsheet for the link. If you already have M17 R4, then it only might be worth the upgrade if it doesn't cost too much or if you have a fat wallet that can take the abuse. It is hard to say how much of a performance improvement it will be.
I'm thinking of getting the X17 with the i7, 16GB 3080, 32GB RAM, 2TB storage, and 1440p display
Wait they have a 1440p option for the x17?
@@Freshone48 Yea they do, he shows it at 14:51 in the video
@Flash Vinnig He also shows that the X17 has a 2560 x 1440 display option at 14:51
@@ratuldeoun7228 There’s UHD written there that means 4k and he also speaks 4k. May be he typed wrong resolution size.
Apologies! No QHD, only 4K 120hz. That’s a typo on Alienware spec sheet.
1) How's the maintainability? Is the motherboard flipped? Are the RAMs soldered or replaceable?
2) How's the alienware's BIOS? Is it as customizable as Clevo/MSI, or is it locked down?
At least on dell's website they said x15's ram is soldered, they did not specify whether x17's ram is soldered or not
Hey all :) my question is, is it possible to get the x17 in full Dark side of the Moon? Or is the lunar light on top and bottom all the Time? Thx!
The one in the video is the only option available at this point.
I am with you, I hope the x17 comes with a possible qhd monitor as the 4k 120 is nice but a 165hx qhd panel with g sync and advanced optimus would be a much much better screen to have. but i can just turn some settings down if needed to get a few extra fps in 4k or just run the game at 1440p. I dont really do a lot of esports gaming so its not a big deal for me as longs as i am getting 60-120 fps on ultra settings in most titles in either 4k or 1440p.
15:11 it says “UHD” but then it says 2560x1440 on that panel. I wonder which is right 🤔
UHD 4k 120hz is correct.
Hey Gizmo, I really wonder if they really going to kill off Alienware Amplifier since I just bought the m17 r4 recently. Because whats the point of adding the port for it. I really dont want them to kill it off just yet even though it has a thunderbolt 3 port. I seen a lot of people talking about it in forums.
BestBuy has a X17 3070 version for $2700 shipped once available. I'm hoping they will be delivered on the 15th. Its the FHD 360Hz Screen with 16GB 3200 Ram. Not sure what keyboard it comes with.
Just got word from the Dell Rep on BestBuy's website that the x17 version they sell does come with the Cherry-Mx low profile per key mechanical keyboard, 125 watt 3070 and upgradable ram up to 64GB.
Great information and I appreciate the info and commentary. Have you looked at the HP Omen 17 2021 in comparison to the x17? I'm trying to decide between the two. Thanks!
I can get an open box x17 for 1800 right now. Im so tempted but the x17 r2 is around the corner so im going to wait and see if better deals come
Do you know wehn your x17 will be delivered and when you will have a review?
The thing about the X15 is that although it’s as thin as a Razer blade, it weighs a lot more. The 2021 Blade weighs 4.4 pounds. The X15 is 5.1 pounds, as much as Strix Scar.
So the performance per unit weight isn’t very high at all.
Yep, but it is thin... 💁
I'm glad it doesn't have a numpad on the 17. I was originally all in on the 15 but the 17 is doing it for me. But I don't know, may be too big for me.
Judging by what we see on the marketing slides, the motherboard is inverted. I'd pass and would recommend everyone else to do the same honestly. MSI and Legion 5 pro laptops are far more practical.
True. Only those who are oblivious would buy this 3000usd laptop! Look at Legion 5 Pro, it's an all-rounder and the price is 1700-1900usd!! Oh saints, what are these people doing.
@@dee_hfgblank1617 In my opinion all Legion 5 pro needs is customization like fan and voltage control.
@@TabalugaDragon yes it's stuck on one fan mode and lacks voltage control. But overall, it's a great catch with its price.
For me, as long as the SSDs are accessible without inverting the motherboard to access, I’m okay with the upside motherboard. I guess we’ll see
@@GizmoSlipTech I guess you don't need to clean and repaste the laptop often. I do 24\7 rendering on my laptop and game on is very often, so I need to clean it every few months, in fact many gaming laptop owners do. Having an upside down motherboard would be hell.
I got the option with the i7. My old 17 r4 couldn't cope with the maxed out CPU and GPU so this time I opted for the big GPU and the smaller CPU, hoping for less thermal throttling..
How do you think the x17 will compare to the Alienware 51m performance wise?!?
My guess is comperable CPU performance, roughly 10-15% faster GPU performance.
@@cheddle88 IDK. Comparable? Desktop cpu to mobile? And if it's 10-15% better better that's insane. Desktop 2080 vs mobile 3080. IDK. Guess we will have to wait and find out in July.
Imo the only laptop that is better than the x17 is the Raider but id rather have the x17 for its aesthetic.
I’m glad I waited - I am considering one of these 3 machines for my next upgrade
Alienware x15
Asus Zeph G15
Razer 15
Let me know your thoughts
R5 for me, it's a beast. R5 5900HX, 32GB 3200, 1TB, 3070, 360hz 1080P badass laptop arrives tomorrow :D
@@buddyluh R5 ? What brand is R5? Alienware 17 R5?
G15 I used for a week and when cleaning to return I couldnt wipe my palm grease off. I own 17r4 and is easy to clean im assuming the x17 I bought will be as well.
@@buddyluh It has fewer CUDA cores than actual and the updated version shows better thermals but there is no change in performance.
The X series with their high TDP will not be my design of choice, especially equipped with 3080 GPU. The M15 R5s are more reasonable (including the pricing).
the cpu on R5 burn like there is no fans. i am using and commenting from the same. it goes to 102 degrees during game play
I could die for the x17. It's too bad I'm poor as dirt.😭
Dirt is full of gold and other minerals. Dirt is full of money.
Looks promising except in 3 fronts: levels of noise? No num pad? 720p camera in 2021, are you kidding?
People complaining about no numpad, while keyboard enthusiasts choose to forgo them on desktop systems. Besides, overall keyboard and touchpad operating comfort is compromised with them squeezing in a numpad.
Personal taste and need really
This is perfect if you have a tower at home that holds major power and need a mobile powerhouse for travel. ( x15 )
tbh either of these could power a 21:9 3.5K ultrawide no problem, so personally I wouldn't even bother with a tower if I had this. Just get a nice monitor and a head pad, good to go. =D
I ordered my x15 r1, the tricked out version, on June 1. The order details and packing slip say rtx 3080 16 GB.(!) However, the item went offline on website but came back a few hours later and showed rtx 3080 8GB. Wonder what I will get?
@Flash Vinnig lol no he won't
@Flash Vinnig lol I agree his purchase choice wasn't the best, honestly should've just gone for the x17 or the x15 3070 but firstly, you don't even know he got the QHD display and secondly it's still a decent enough graphics card and he can get great framerates and even when the card starts showing its age, he just needs to turn off rtx to still get a decent framerate. He's not getting the best bang for his buck but it's not a complete waste of money
@Flash Vinnig yeah lol not a smart purchase :p
@Flash Vinnig @Istafa Niazi . You make good points, but you're coming at it from hardcore gaming perspective. Also, let's wait for the performance numbers before passing judgement. I would actually prefer the x17 with 4k as I will be doing mobile music production as well. But for mobility and the need to do things other than gaming as well, the x15 makes sense. The x17 is probably 9 lb including the massive brick. Try lugging that around and traveling with it. Ultimately, it's all a losing game as they will depreciate like crazy once next year's model comes out. It's a conspiracy! Still, I'd rather enjoy a couple of years with a premium laptop like an alienware or razer over the cheap throwaway crap quality Asus laptops like the G15.
@Flash Vinnig good points. You are certainly more knowledgeable than me. so what's the sweet spot for display? Is it a mistake to choose 4k UHD?
15:10 Thats QHD, not 4K. Or are the specs wrongly written?
Yes, wrongly written on their spec sheet. 4K display confirmed. I meant to clarify that with text overlay.
Lol can’t believe he forgot that he wondered what the black strips on the sides of the keyboard was and that he answered his own question 😂
thanks on pointing out x17 keyboard not being full layout and copying x15
also alienware is giving temperature power lock for CPU, so you can bypass intel thermal limit of 100C and make processor operate in specific temperature limits(sacrificing some CPU perfomance)
the range is 100 degree stock(intel) and 15degree down bias(85c max)
once set to 85C, the laptop will throttle power and its power profile and cooling profile to always be at 85C max on load
but, keyboard still puts me off as i need a lot of numpad
especially lenovo numpad
Yes but what kind of memory & ssd do you get ? Dell never tells you
Would like to see Alienware come out with an all AMD Ryzen+Radeon in the next gen of m15. Seems the m15 r5 needs a little quality upgrade in the speakers/trackpad from reviews as well. Wish they kept the power plug in the back on the new X..
NUMPAD. This is not an option. It's a must.
The cherry mx keyboard isn't available on the x15 for whatever reason even though the R5 has the option. My guess is the laptop is just too thin for it to work? That fucking sucks.
damn, this is kinda disappointing. I was hoping the "X" stood for 10, as in 16 : 10 aspect ratio screens. Guess I'm still holding out for that Legion 7i later this month...hopefully.
Worth buying:
X15 NO.
X17 Maybe.
17 👍
24:12 they had to prioritize CPU thermals just because there is freaking hot and thermally inefficient "intel inside". They are simply forced to cool this heater somehow.
It’s short lived. Being that Alienware doesn’t allow anyone to upgrade any laptop will surpass it in a short time.
At 15:10: did you mean to say/write "UHD/4K display"? It's 1440p QHD, no?
Check pinned
Ordered mines on the 1st as well. I'm a little torn with the current 4k vs the 360hz 1080p that will be coming out on June 15th. I might modify my order on the 15th. Do you know what the exact max output the thunderbolt port can do for an external monitor? I'm not very tech savvy, and I'm wondering if this has no problem outputting to the Samsung G9 ultrawide. Good work on your analysis based on the specs you were provided. By far the most information and advice online to date. Keep up the good work.
Your current order may be in production or already being sent to you by the 15th. If it's in production
I don't think you can cancel. I'd check with dell customer support to be certain.
@@2Sexy4MyMusic thank you for that information. If that is the case, I’ll just be happy with this 4K model. However, i might have a small chance because the invoice states that they are shipping on June 29th and estimated receipt at July 6th.
@@javerosales2072 fingers crossed. I have an x15 on order and might switch if the new configurations come out before it goes into production. I'm actually expecting mine to go into production any time and wouldn't rely on the guestimates. I pre-ordered the r5 ryzen edition on May 6 with estimated delivery July 2. It shipped on May 16!
I remembered you purchased the A51 and upgraded to the maximum specs, where is it now?
Waiting to be resold... what can I say? I’m a laptop collector of sorts x)... my wallet hates me
Comment people share your thoughts here :
Alienware R6 has better TDp at 125W for 3070 (advabced optimus) or should i go with Asus Rog strix scar 15???
GizmoSlipTech hI from London ' I'm getting the X17 the 3070 with the 360 screen update is this the best allround spec ? And also can you please let me known what you when't for in the end ? cheers .
The RAM is not soldered to the board and user upgradable as mentioned in their introduction I watched the other day. I am steering towards the x 17 myself
A huge possible heads up. I checked the service manual for the x15 and there is nothing about replacing memory, leading me to believe it's all soldered on so ya need to decide upfront. Could you please ask for confirmation?
Interesting, but in those price target they have to be top on all aspects; waiting for a testing review to know about speakers, battery life, thermals and so on...
Yeah, a lot of unknowns still!
I might go with the x17...or do u think I should wait? I'm thinking they will have an update for the area 51 soon enough no? Or should I just go with the x17...it's already backordered on best buy lol
I don’t know if they will refresh Area 51M. I’m not sure if it was selling well enough for them to continue with it. Simply put, desktop CPUs from Intel kinda of sucked recently, which hurt the Area 51Ms sales I think. I’d love to see a Ryzen version with the Ryzen 5950X CPU instead. Not sure if that’s possible given the TDP requirements though... I don’t know if it’s worth waiting or not. Really up to you, technology will always get better. I’d recommend buying when you think you’ll get a laptop you’ll enjoy and use for a long time.
Alienware could of did a 150 watt 3070 easily.
They're stealing oblivious people's pockets again. Lmao. Next!
On weight. The one I got in 2012 was 13 lbs (m17r4)
@24:40 We never got to see your Undervolting with the GP66!
A step backwards in the upgradeable department in my opinion. Even my old Alienware 13 R3 allows me to upgrade not only my ram, but ssd and wireless card. And the 13 R3 is a lot smaller than the X15 R1.
is this laptop that we talking about. a 4k 17 inch is not worth it. I'm still have no dicision if I should buy x17 3080 16gb vram. kinda overkill for 1080p and then again 4k on laptop is out of quesiton.
@GizmoSlipTech for x17 what panel would be the better option to choose.
What happened to x17 4k had it in my cart yesterday morning and now says it's not available. Is it out of stock when is it coming back .
23:43 just the pure fact: this machine would be much more powerful and had much better thermal if it could have AMD CPU, which is times more efficient. Shame that they gave us AMD only this year and only inside m1* R5, which isn't an absolute top machine now, since they introduced X series. Great shame.
Please review the keyboard and compare to Scar when you get this, thanks
X15 doesn't seem worth it at all, the X17 could have potential but no QHD display option kind of kills that, it really needs the 165Hz QHD display lots of other companies are using as 4k is useless in a gaming laptop and a 1080p esports display with a high end 3080 config is also a waste of the 3080's capability. The excessive price also kind of kills it's potential, I do however absolutely love all the ports being on the back as I hate side ports because the cables get in the way.
Whats with these companies and ignoring the FN keys lighting. Its bizarre. Razer did it in the EU/UK models
Hello does x17 rtx 3060 Alienware has vaporchamber and silicon gallium?
So, I just chat with Dell, they told me it x17 will be available worldwide 3rd week of June...
what no num pad on x17?!
I ordered x17 for $3800 + tax. I was waiting for s17 or legion 7. But don’t even know when they will be available and even if this will cost +$500 more than those at similar spec... this is better built quality with highest tdp and cherry mechanical and how they brought back rgb touch pad.
I agree quality is good on alienwares I returned a g15 zephyrus felt cheap and ordered an x17.
@@rafaeldelgado4985 LoL, same exact here. I sold my 2080 Ti, 9900 few months ago (after +2 year use, I pretty much got all back) and I didn't had gaming pc and since desktop card are so hard to find even laptops with 3070/3080 were impossible to find due to scalpers, and few weeks ago I was able got "returned" g15 from best buy for like 1700. (I was hoping to get Scar 17 with 3080 or hopping Legion 7 to come out earlier, and day after I picked up g15 (I didn't even opened box and saw clip for x17 and s17 (Asus) getting released, and I got it as soon as it was able to be preordered. I am sure I will be paying +$500 for similar spec s17 but I can make +$500 in a day so I rather have this more superior x17.
As developper, not gamer (et all), should I go with and XPS 17 or an Alienware x17 ?
I grabbed the x15, if you have a home server and home desktop I dont see why the x15 cant work ( if you lack the power ssh into the home powerhouses )
I just got my M15 R5 with a 5900HX and 3070... Should I return it for the x15? Heard rumors that Dell reduce the 3070 by 10%.
I would like to know the same, cannot decide which to buy! How do you like the r5?
@@joesmith3941 Hey Joe, the R5 felt awesome and performed well... But it would frequently exceed 100°C in games and during any benchmark... While I'm sure this is in spec, I'm just not comfortable with that. The top of the keyboard hurt to touch... So I returned it, especially with the 10% locked/reduced 3070 performance (hopefully to be fixed via patch)... Figured if I'm paying all that I want better cooling and all the performance I've paid for... Holding out for the x15 with high hopes!
Can you get 300 fps on the 4k panel ?
LOL
The theory is you can render a lot of fps, but only 120 fps will actually show on the screen. The difference is noticeable while playing, but it will only display 120 frames per second.
Sorry if you mentioned it in the video, but would you recommend buying an x15 over an m15 r5 or r6? I already decided that i want a 15‘‘ one and just as i decided that I’d like to get the m15r5 this thing comes out So would you recommend paying that extra price?
For best gaming performance in 15” chassis, skip X15. If you want Alienware, Go for the M15 R4 probably (higher TDP) especially if you can get it on sale right now. But other good alternatives at lower price points would be MSI GE66/GP66 and Aorus 15P-style points will obviously vary a lot though
@@GizmoSlipTech ok thank you! So the r4 performs better than the r5? Thanks for the help and awesome video
@Flash Vinnig okay thank you so much for the nice help.
And I was kind of leaning towards the r5 instead of r4 because of the price difference, is the r4 better than r5 for that much more money? Thanks again
@Flash Vinnig r5 can have a 3070 too that’s what I would prefer
@Flash Vinnig in my Region it is. However why is the r4 with an 3070 so much more expensive than r5 with 3070?
X15 doesn't look that good,
looks like it's super expensive just because of being thin (but still heavy). I would go for Asus Strix Scar, Asus Zephyrus, or Lenovo Legion 5 Pro instead.
On the other hand, X17 looks great!
but the current top-end fully-loaded price is too much for my wallet and I am not that hardcore/serious gamer. So, I will wait for lower models.
Looking forward to:
- i7-11800H
- RTX 3070
- 2 x 16 GB, 3200 MHz (I don't think 3467 MHz will be much different)
- 1TB NVMe - PCIe3, but 2TB is PCIe4 (If the price is not much different, I will get 2TB)
- 4K UHD
I think FHD is old for 17.3" now and I don't need high refresh rate either. Personally, I prefer QHD as you said but it's not available. So, I will just go with the best screen because it's important and the thing we have to see/watch every day. I always spend some money on the screen and 100% Adobe RGB is amazing.
I hope this configuration (or something close) is available and brings the price down to under 3k. I don't want to step down further to RTX3060 or FHD screen for a laptop of this caliber.
Time to save money for months to come~ I usually buy a good laptop and use it for long. My current laptop is XPS15 9550 (i7-6700HQ + 960GT), I use it for years and get the most out of it. I think it's about time to get the new one :)
The BestBuy config pre-order is at 2.5k
www.bestbuy.com/site/alienware-x17-r1-17-3-360hz-fhd-gaming-laptop-intel-core-i7-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3070-1tb-ssd-white/6464985.p?skuId=6464985
It's pretty on point, considering the base model starts at $2,100 (which is probably RTX3060 with the lowest FHD screen). Man, I can't wait for 15th June to see how much the 4K UHD screen will cost. The 16 GB RAM is a bit too low, but I can upgrade them later.
UPDATE:
I placed my order today, here we go!
- i7-11800H
- RTX 3080 16GB GDDR6
- 32GB DDR4 3200MHz
- 512GB PCIe NVMe
- 4K UHD 120Hz
- CherryMX mechanical KB
- Windows 10 Pro
Ended up getting RTX 3080 because I think 16GB GDDR6 makes more sense for the 4K UHD display. When we buy a laptop this expensive (~$3,000), the $300 is not that different anymore. Also, a good GPU is very rare and valuable these days, I go for it while I have a chance. We can use it for mining a bit and RTX3080 will pay its cost.
On the other hand,
I did not go for i9-11980HK because it has the same Core/Thread. It's just a faster clock speed with higher power consumption; the difference will be minimal. The same for XMP RAM, since I also don't play e-sport titles.
The laptop is expected to arrive late next month. Man, I cannot wait for it.
So, for the x15 model, does it mean a RTX 3080 will give the same quality of graphics as the RTX 3070?
Yap not worth it at all. If u really want 3080 so much just go for x17