I've started an annual tradition with friends where we watch this movie. It's mainly to make jokes, though there is this strange tranquilizing effect to it. By the time Oblio has reached “the abyss”, at least half of the audience has been unconscious each time. It’s a bizarre, dreamy, experience, with the movie seeming to feed on your soul, extending the runtime by the life force it devours. But I'll always come back to it... I liked that Prisoner reference, Matt! Also, if anybody plans on watching The Point, look out of what I've termed "The Point Demon", who sits in the public benches during Oblio's Trial (bottom right in a particular shot). He's very freaky~
Even if you don’t like the movie, I would definitely recommend the album. It condenses the story into 30 minutes including the songs which I think is much more suitable for the story. Nilsson narrates it himself this time and in doing so brings more humor and charm than Ringo and Dustin Hoffman combined. As a side note, I wouldn’t say the songs all sound like the moonbeam song ( I guess think about your troubles is probably the closest I can think of but that was a semi-hit for Nilsson as a single before the film came out.) I know Robin Williams really loved this movie but I can definitely see how one could see the film as a bit of a cheaply made Yellow Submarine. Still always glad to see one of my favorite artists get a shout out! Great job!
11:43 I love how Matt looks down and then it cuts to him looking back up as if its the same moment with two cameras. Like Matt is so bored about the tree he does a fourth wall break.
I recommended this movie a few years ago to you guys and I got so excited getting the notification that you have done an episode on it. I first watched it as a Junior in high school while being a rough situation with my family during that time. The art teacher that showed our class this movie talked about how things don't need to be perfect to have a point. I have always watched this movie when I feel down about failing. Thanks for doing this show!
I was watching Olivier’s Richard III yesterday and noticed that not even Shakespeare could resist brothers calling each other “brother”! Made me immediately think of Matt.
you can tell Matt is a wicked midwesterner from that cold open. in Boston: kid, bro, dude, guy, boss, and chief are all used interchangeably (based on the area of upbringing), and aren't gendered or aged. normal Bostonian dialogue "oh, you mean Brian from Watertown? wicked good kid, his mother is a saint"
Here’s an interesting little thing: Live, Die, Repeat is actually based on a Japanese light novel (basically, their equivalent of novellas) which are usually adapted into animes, which connects back with Wolf Children, since that’s an anime movie. Also, when discussing that movie’s title, the correct choice was to use the title of the original novel: “All You Need is Kill”, which I think we can all agree is pretty much untouchable.
I know a lot of people debate the merits of both the movie and the light novel with one preferred over the other. For me I like to view them as individual entries in a broader narrative. Both are really good without stepping on each others toes. All You Need is Kill had a wide English release so I highly recommend it to anyone who has seen Live Die Repeat to give it a read.
Have you guys seen "The Secret of NIMH"? I think it would make for a great cartoon June episode. Thanks for continuing to make the best show on the internet.
Hi Matt, hoping we get more Ghibli this cartoon june! I don't think The Wind Rises is the best Ghibli movie, but I think it would be a great Welcome To The Basement movie.
I’m totally with you on the pet peeves Matt. Growing up in Australia, no one ever called me “kid”. I assumed that they must use it in America, because people always used it in movies and tv.
It's intended to diminish the recipient, so it's kinda mean-spirited. I don't remember anyone calling me it growing up... I probably would've taken offense.
Yeah whenever I see characters refer to each other as “sis” and “bro” it feels like bad exposition to establish they’re siblings. I’ve never heard anyone use it in real life. I associate it with low budget movies and fan fiction more than anything else.
SEEN IT QUESTION/REQUEST I'm not sure how often you're asked if you've seen any foreign/Asian films as I don't see it often in your segments, but I'm very interested to know if either of you have seen either The Man from Nowhere or A Bittersweet Life. These are usually two of my "go-to" films when I'm trying to ease someone int Korean cinema as they're similar to American films in their structure. The Man from Nowhere being nearly beat-for-beat Denzel Washington's Man on Fire and A Bittersweet Life sharing a somewhat similar tone with George Clooney's The American.
lol remember too, that it was written for kids and you have to hit them over the head with the lesson a million times. I don't remember not liking it when I saw it a few times as a child
The movie does go on a bit, but the album is amazing. It's the film, condensed into the length of an album. And Nilsson, himself, does any narration. "Think About Your Troubles" is just an amazing song, no matter how you slice it.
Interestingly the Live Die Repeat movie was released as Edge of Tomorrow without that tagline when I saw it in theaters. Did not know going in it was groundhog day movie just an action movie against aliens.
@@carloscarmona1523 Yeah there's always exceptions, every family is different. I would say that calling siblings 'sister' and 'brother' is probably less common than just using their name though. I don't know anyone that calls their sibling 'sis' or 'bro' in lieu of their name but of course it happens as you said. But I grew up with two brothers who are a similar age so calling them both 'bro' would be confusing for us... and my parents always used our names so we just followed suit.
People calling each other 'Sis' and 'Bro' always reminds me of the Berenstain bears books... I always found it really weird they had no names. But people definitely do it, every family is different-- a weird thing my family does (that most don't) is that when we refer to one another, we give up ownership of the person we're discussing to the other person. So for example, if me and my brother are discussing our mother, we don't say "guess what mum did today" we say, "guess what *your* mom did today" or like instead of 'did you send mum a message' we'll say "did you send your mum a message?" Its normal for us but I know its weird-- a couple of times people have overheard and thought we had different parents because of it, haha. I liken it to when parents call their kids 'your son' or 'your daughter' when they discuss their kids together, almost like they are passing ownership of the person.
Between the Phantom Tollbooth, (1970) Fritz the Cat, (1972) and The Point (1971) I'd say it's high time to give up on these early 70's trip outs Matt. PLEASE! FOR YOUR SANITY! P.S: I would watch you guys if you were watching C-Span every episode
The first time I saw the DVD of "Edge of Tomorrow" labeled "Live, Die, Repeat" my immediate reaction was, "why did they make the tag line so big on the cover?"
American Dad spoofed the whole "bro" and "sis" thing. "What? I've never called you Sis before? You're right. It does sound weirdly clunky and expositional. I mean, I know you're my sister, so who am I saying it for? Weird."
Matt, I know you're a fan of music biopics and I think Harry Nilsson's story is perfect for the medium: abandoned by his father, moving around constantly as a boy, rising to fame but an insecurity that led to drug addiction that overpowered his incredible talent. Each chapter of his life can be transformed to the big screen without having to move too many events around for dramatic effect. What are your thoughts?
May I ask what part of the country you’re from? I was born in Texas in the 90s and have never heard anyone refer to their sibling like that. We all call our siblings by name, or might say “my sister” for third person.
This movie was what got me into Harry Nilsson's music (actually just the one album Nilsson Schmilsson but still) and I was loving seeing Matt grow impatient at the...forgive me, pointlessness of the whole thing. I felt the same way when watching it. At least it's kinda charming in spots, but I probably won't watch it again.
When I described the plot of Mary and Max to my sister, she asked what the point was of them doing it as an animated feature when it probably would have worked as a live action movie. In hindsight, I think part of the reason is maybe because the depressing aspects are more palatable within a slightly surreal cartoon world, though I guess Matt might disagree. Watching that movie for the first time, I thought Toni Collette was an odd choice to play Mary. Why, I wondered, didn't they get an actual Australian? Of course, I realized soon after that Collette is Australian, but I'd only seen her play Americans up to that point.
I watch it over Zoom. I am watching it from Matt's lap top, while the movie is shown on Tona's lap top a few feet away (the tv is around 10 feet from the couch and both the audio and the visuals get lost at that distance when watching via computer camera).
Next you can watch its spiritual successor "Down & Dirty Duck" it has the same sort of art direction but Flo & Eddie instead of Harry Nilsson and raunchier.
My brothers and I call each other bro. They grew up with with a different mother and had a hiatus of seeing me for 15 years. Maybe they would explain it.
Odd... I never realized till now, I have two brothers, and one of them addresses me as "Sis" probably 9 times out of 10... I never really asked him why, but I'd be willing to bet there are just too many Jens around the same age that he knows, it's easier to refer to each by some other nickname... In my college years there were so many Jens we all called each other by our last names.
I don't understand what Matt is saying... is he saying it never happens that you DO wake up with underwear? If it's a one night stand, I put my underwear AND my shirt back on! I don't want some complete stranger staring at me while I'm asleep, lol.
Of course you’re not the only ones. I don’t know what Matt is talking about. A lot of people call their siblings sis or bro, including me. It’s pretty common.
@@bobloblaw5236 It sounds like it's from a young adult novel and extremely forced to me. I would say "Happy birthday, [NAME]." If talking to someone else it would be "today is my sister's birthday." Question, roughly how old are you? 20s? 50s?
My pet peeve is men who breathe heavily in the communal showers. What, is taking a shower so tremendously exhausting? Or... _exciting?_ I kind of have the feeling some people just like making noise. And maybe some actors and/or directors like noises too? 'Less is not more. _More_ is more!'
Matt, I think you're being a bit too general about what Mary and Max is about. The "misfits of the world," isn't its core so much as it's about living with lifelong mental illness. In Mary's case it's clinical depression and later alcoholism. For Max it's Asperger's. They're not just misfits in the sense of folks who are odd, they're people that society refuses to make space for or accept the existence of. Folks who can't help who they are or how their minds work.
Love the show and will always watch. But man the movie choices so far this season are beyond awful. I take away from this season, these are movies to stay the hell away from.
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Wow, I got two movies I sent on Seen it. Wolf Children and Mary & Max. I'll call that a personal best.
I've started an annual tradition with friends where we watch this movie. It's mainly to make jokes, though there is this strange tranquilizing effect to it. By the time Oblio has reached “the abyss”, at least half of the audience has been unconscious each time. It’s a bizarre, dreamy, experience, with the movie seeming to feed on your soul, extending the runtime by the life force it devours. But I'll always come back to it...
I liked that Prisoner reference, Matt! Also, if anybody plans on watching The Point, look out of what I've termed "The Point Demon", who sits in the public benches during Oblio's Trial (bottom right in a particular shot). He's very freaky~
"cocaine energy" is definitely a descripter for stories that needs to be used more
“Look at us. We’re a cannoli”. I’m not sure how I can use that in my day to day conversations, but I’m going to try.
Even if you don’t like the movie, I would definitely recommend the album. It condenses the story into 30 minutes including the songs which I think is much more suitable for the story. Nilsson narrates it himself this time and in doing so brings more humor and charm than Ringo and Dustin Hoffman combined.
As a side note, I wouldn’t say the songs all sound like the moonbeam song ( I guess think about your troubles is probably the closest I can think of but that was a semi-hit for Nilsson as a single before the film came out.) I know Robin Williams really loved this movie but I can definitely see how one could see the film as a bit of a cheaply made Yellow Submarine. Still always glad to see one of my favorite artists get a shout out! Great job!
11:43 I love how Matt looks down and then it cuts to him looking back up as if its the same moment with two cameras. Like Matt is so bored about the tree he does a fourth wall break.
7:48 "I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered!" Nice Prisoner nod.👌
Always look forward to Cartoon June!
It’s the best thing about summer
I remember being absolutely terrified of this movie as a kid. Even now, it's giving me the creepo beepos.
I adore how at the end the kid is like it was a good story dad, really. And the dad is like It was GREAT!
I recommended this movie a few years ago to you guys and I got so excited getting the notification that you have done an episode on it. I first watched it as a Junior in high school while being a rough situation with my family during that time. The art teacher that showed our class this movie talked about how things don't need to be perfect to have a point. I have always watched this movie when I feel down about failing. Thanks for doing this show!
A pet peeve of mine, movies and storys telling you how great they are and how much you should be enjoying them.
I heard Tom Hanks doesn't like it but Joe vs the Volcano has a special place in my heart. Seen it?
I'm glad you did this one! I watched this a ton as a small kid, and boy did it mess me up.
I was watching Olivier’s Richard III yesterday and noticed that not even Shakespeare could resist brothers calling each other “brother”! Made me immediately think of Matt.
The King in "The Point" looks remarkably like The Ice King from Adventure Time. Just thought I'd "point" that out.
S tier editing at the end. Bravo
My favourite film over use of a phrase no one really says is 'WHAT THE....?!?' :)
you can tell Matt is a wicked midwesterner from that cold open. in Boston: kid, bro, dude, guy, boss, and chief are all used interchangeably (based on the area of upbringing), and aren't gendered or aged. normal Bostonian dialogue "oh, you mean Brian from Watertown? wicked good kid, his mother is a saint"
true, just like surf culture birthed "dude" & "brahhhh" and a number of other regional colloquialisms
Concerning mob mentality:
Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.
― George Carlin
a pretty topical commentary for contemporary times 👀
"the only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing."
and that makes me the wisest person on the planet because i don't know *dick*
The Loft! I lived in Tucson for a year. I miss that theater.
Every city in America should have a Loft.
My sister and I grew up with the Alan Thicke version taped off of cable!
Here’s an interesting little thing: Live, Die, Repeat is actually based on a Japanese light novel (basically, their equivalent of novellas) which are usually adapted into animes, which connects back with Wolf Children, since that’s an anime movie.
Also, when discussing that movie’s title, the correct choice was to use the title of the original novel: “All You Need is Kill”, which I think we can all agree is pretty much untouchable.
I know a lot of people debate the merits of both the movie and the light novel with one preferred over the other. For me I like to view them as individual entries in a broader narrative. Both are really good without stepping on each others toes.
All You Need is Kill had a wide English release so I highly recommend it to anyone who has seen Live Die Repeat to give it a read.
god, just watching the clips of this film made me want to rip out my hair, it just dragged and dragged. I agree with everything you guys said.
Have you guys seen "The Secret of NIMH"? I think it would make for a great cartoon June episode. Thanks for continuing to make the best show on the internet.
Great episode! I always wonder what you guys write down while watching the film, can you share it?
Made by the same people who did the tootsie pop commercial?
Ha ha. That was mentioned during the movie, but ended up on the cutting room floor, as it were.
Pretty sure I've heard Matt go off on "Sis" and "Bro" before, but darned if I can remember what episode.
I think it was Beethoven’s Christmas Adventure.
Edit: yes, 12:53
It's an eternal peeve, tbh
Oooo! A Clue reference!
(Huuuug) 🙂
Hi Matt, hoping we get more Ghibli this cartoon june! I don't think The Wind Rises is the best Ghibli movie, but I think it would be a great Welcome To The Basement movie.
Still hoping for cagliostro
Dear Matt and Craig: What is your favorite and least favorite David Lynch movie and why?
I’m totally with you on the pet peeves Matt. Growing up in Australia, no one ever called me “kid”. I assumed that they must use it in America, because people always used it in movies and tv.
It's intended to diminish the recipient, so it's kinda mean-spirited. I don't remember anyone calling me it growing up... I probably would've taken offense.
Wow, a Neil Pye reference! Nice.
Yeah whenever I see characters refer to each other as “sis” and “bro” it feels like bad exposition to establish they’re siblings. I’ve never heard anyone use it in real life. I associate it with low budget movies and fan fiction more than anything else.
3:50 Because he had a one night stand, Matt. Because he had a one...night...stand.
18:15 Chekov's 2 dollars
The king in this movie reminds me of the Ice King from Adventure Time.
Probably where Ice King got his design
i find it funny that the framing device for the point is almost the exact opposite of princess bride
SEEN IT QUESTION/REQUEST
I'm not sure how often you're asked if you've seen any foreign/Asian films as I don't see it often in your segments, but I'm very interested to know if either of you have seen either The Man from Nowhere or A Bittersweet Life. These are usually two of my "go-to" films when I'm trying to ease someone int Korean cinema as they're similar to American films in their structure. The Man from Nowhere being nearly beat-for-beat Denzel Washington's Man on Fire and A Bittersweet Life sharing a somewhat similar tone with George Clooney's The American.
lol remember too, that it was written for kids and you have to hit them over the head with the lesson a million times. I don't remember not liking it when I saw it a few times as a child
The movie does go on a bit, but the album is amazing. It's the film, condensed into the length of an album. And Nilsson, himself, does any narration. "Think About Your Troubles" is just an amazing song, no matter how you slice it.
Interestingly the Live Die Repeat movie was released as Edge of Tomorrow without that tagline when I saw it in theaters. Did not know going in it was groundhog day movie just an action movie against aliens.
hehe, you've made this point before, but i do call my sister "sister", and my brother 'brother"
Yeah, whenever people say that no siblings talk like that, I think about how I don't think I have ever called my brother by his name.
@@carloscarmona1523 Yeah there's always exceptions, every family is different. I would say that calling siblings 'sister' and 'brother' is probably less common than just using their name though. I don't know anyone that calls their sibling 'sis' or 'bro' in lieu of their name but of course it happens as you said. But I grew up with two brothers who are a similar age so calling them both 'bro' would be confusing for us... and my parents always used our names so we just followed suit.
What the hell happened at 13:15?
People calling each other 'Sis' and 'Bro' always reminds me of the Berenstain bears books... I always found it really weird they had no names. But people definitely do it, every family is different-- a weird thing my family does (that most don't) is that when we refer to one another, we give up ownership of the person we're discussing to the other person. So for example, if me and my brother are discussing our mother, we don't say "guess what mum did today" we say, "guess what *your* mom did today" or like instead of 'did you send mum a message' we'll say "did you send your mum a message?" Its normal for us but I know its weird-- a couple of times people have overheard and thought we had different parents because of it, haha. I liken it to when parents call their kids 'your son' or 'your daughter' when they discuss their kids together, almost like they are passing ownership of the person.
OOOH - How about "The Thief and the Cobbler"!
The version with Mathew Broderick, Vincent Price and, Jonathan Winters!
It is a SCREAM!!!
What's the other two tv films they've watched? I know one was Mazes a d Monsters but what was the other?
A Christmas Carol
Between the Phantom Tollbooth, (1970) Fritz the Cat, (1972) and The Point (1971) I'd say it's high time to give up on these early 70's trip outs Matt. PLEASE! FOR YOUR SANITY!
P.S: I would watch you guys if you were watching C-Span every episode
Not before Shinbone Alley
Seen it: Wake in Fright (1971)?
What the... When did they rename Edge of Tomorrow !?
The first time I saw the DVD of "Edge of Tomorrow" labeled "Live, Die, Repeat" my immediate reaction was, "why did they make the tag line so big on the cover?"
So did they change the name for DVD or what? Because I saw it at the movies and it was definitely Edge of Tomorrow
Even more bafflingly, neither are the title of the original book (All You Need Is Kill).
I remember trying to watch this on Netflix over 10 years ago, but got a different movie instead.
Fuck it, I love "The Point!"
Or, "thanks for helping me out back there."
American Dad spoofed the whole "bro" and "sis" thing. "What? I've never called you Sis before? You're right. It does sound weirdly clunky and expositional. I mean, I know you're my sister, so who am I saying it for? Weird."
Is this the same folks who animated the tootsie pop commercials, the art style looks familiar...
Matt, I know you're a fan of music biopics and I think Harry Nilsson's story is perfect for the medium: abandoned by his father, moving around constantly as a boy, rising to fame but an insecurity that led to drug addiction that overpowered his incredible talent. Each chapter of his life can be transformed to the big screen without having to move too many events around for dramatic effect. What are your thoughts?
Seen it? A Boy and His Dog, 1975?
Why is Craig trapped in that small rectangle?!
Is that Mabel Mooberry & her sisters?
Me and my siblings use "bro" and "sis" all the time. Even "big bro" and "little sis".
To the opening discussion, I have only ever called my sister “Sis” my entire life. To the point that she hates it if I use her actual name.
May I ask what part of the country you’re from? I was born in Texas in the 90s and have never heard anyone refer to their sibling like that. We all call our siblings by name, or might say “my sister” for third person.
Rhewin actually I’m Canadian. But to be fair I don’t think I’ve ever met anyone person who refers to their sister this way.
This movie was what got me into Harry Nilsson's music (actually just the one album Nilsson Schmilsson but still) and I was loving seeing Matt grow impatient at the...forgive me, pointlessness of the whole thing. I felt the same way when watching it. At least it's kinda charming in spots, but I probably won't watch it again.
...The King looks like the Ice King from Adventure Time
My nieces are both toddlers now but I call them both "baby" because if I don't I mix up their names.
When I described the plot of Mary and Max to my sister, she asked what the point was of them doing it as an animated feature when it probably would have worked as a live action movie. In hindsight, I think part of the reason is maybe because the depressing aspects are more palatable within a slightly surreal cartoon world, though I guess Matt might disagree. Watching that movie for the first time, I thought Toni Collette was an odd choice to play Mary. Why, I wondered, didn't they get an actual Australian? Of course, I realized soon after that Collette is Australian, but I'd only seen her play Americans up to that point.
I thought Judy Davis was American for years before I found out that she, too, was Australia.
Matt- is Craig watching the movie over FaceTime or something equivalent or does he have the movie playing simultaneously on a device at his place?
I watch it over Zoom. I am watching it from Matt's lap top, while the movie is shown on Tona's lap top a few feet away (the tv is around 10 feet from the couch and both the audio and the visuals get lost at that distance when watching via computer camera).
Next you can watch its spiritual successor "Down & Dirty Duck" it has the same sort of art direction but Flo & Eddie instead of Harry Nilsson and raunchier.
My brothers and I call each other bro. They grew up with with a different mother and had a hiatus of seeing me for 15 years. Maybe they would explain it.
I've never seen this before.
This cartoon style is just like the old school Tootsie Pop commercial but the commercial was to point unlike the messy script of the story.
This is like the same movie as Yellow Submarine and The Phantom Tollbooth.
Odd... I never realized till now, I have two brothers, and one of them addresses me as "Sis" probably 9 times out of 10... I never really asked him why, but I'd be willing to bet there are just too many Jens around the same age that he knows, it's easier to refer to each by some other nickname... In my college years there were so many Jens we all called each other by our last names.
Cartoon June! Mobile Suit Gundam: The Movie, Seen it?
But Craig, you don't get it! The money the dad gave him wasn't the..."point!"
Kid, son, etc is the very definition of patronizing (intentional or not).
I don't understand what Matt is saying... is he saying it never happens that you DO wake up with underwear? If it's a one night stand, I put my underwear AND my shirt back on! I don't want some complete stranger staring at me while I'm asleep, lol.
I actually do call my sis "sis" lmao and she calls me "bro." I dunno if we're the only siblings who do it
Of course you’re not the only ones. I don’t know what Matt is talking about. A lot of people call their siblings sis or bro, including me. It’s pretty common.
It sounds extremely unnatural to me. My sister and I use names. I’ve always thought it was only used in bad exposition dialogue.
Rhewin “Happy birthday, Sis!”That sounds unnatural? Are you that formal with your family? It sounds good to me.
@@bobloblaw5236 It sounds like it's from a young adult novel and extremely forced to me. I would say "Happy birthday, [NAME]." If talking to someone else it would be "today is my sister's birthday." Question, roughly how old are you? 20s? 50s?
Rhewin 40. Being informal with family doesn’t have an age limit..
My pet peeve is PANTING. People don’t generally pant, unless they just ran a marathon. In movies people pant all the time, for just about any reason.
My pet peeve is men who breathe heavily in the communal showers. What, is taking a shower so tremendously exhausting? Or... _exciting?_ I kind of have the feeling some people just like making noise. And maybe some actors and/or directors like noises too? 'Less is not more. _More_ is more!'
biggest peeve: guns are so noisy. a character draws a gun and it makes all this noise just from moving it around. guns don't jingle
Actually when the sex is over I do put shorts on.
The worst movie for overuse of the word "kid" is Gloria, with Sharon Stone.
Matt, I think you're being a bit too general about what Mary and Max is about. The "misfits of the world," isn't its core so much as it's about living with lifelong mental illness. In Mary's case it's clinical depression and later alcoholism. For Max it's Asperger's. They're not just misfits in the sense of folks who are odd, they're people that society refuses to make space for or accept the existence of. Folks who can't help who they are or how their minds work.
!bird
Everybody knows it’s the word
Hard disagree with Matt on the use of "kid"
70's animation....Fueled by LSD and Cocaine.
Love the show and will always watch. But man the movie choices so far this season are beyond awful. I take away from this season, these are movies to stay the hell away from.