I bought the Mk8 premium in last year's sales and I have played that thing so much it's stupid. I love it. It's just a really good all around performer.
@@alexturnbackthearmy1907which they do 99% of the time unless they’re absolutely brain dead. Only time when it’s actually good is when it’s in a downtier
This thing is underrated for GRB. Counts as a fighter but carries a 3k lb bomb that can quickly get a double on enemies capping a base. I got a 8km 7C kill on a climbing propeller plane once too lol. The guns are amazing but the biggest downside is no flares and a bad speed bleed if you try to dodge missiles. The main 2 things on this plane to know are. 1. Don't try to lock with the ACM mode 2. It's easier for radar to pick up people above you and avoid ground clutter.
@@Samulater_well it’s not actually longer range, it’s just useable from further out headon since the target is moving towards the missile, but it has less potential energy than a 9b so rear aspect even with a lock the 9b will travel further and give no warning
One other thing to point out, the Demon is, well, actually a demon in very low speed rate fights. The flaps are leading edge, and give you so much lift and AoA at speeds where most other jets will be falling out of the air. You'll just sit there at 300 kph and be able to point your nose just about anywhere you want except straight up. This is obviously not a good idea when there's any risk of being third partied, but it gives you the option to fully commit to a 1v1 where you/'re able to bleed the speed of your opponent. If they keep turning, they'll eventually be forced to break off when they run out of lift, making them an easy target for an AIM-9B.
I feel like the F3H is a bit of a mismatched aircraft. Compared to its contemporaries it's pretty slow, yet the armament and airfoils are that of a plane that seeks to master high altitudes. It's great with dogfights, but it operates in a region where that's less of the focus. In a way, I could imagine an alternate history where the F11 and F3H swap wings and armaments and are better planes as a result, as cursed as they might look.
Wow look BR changes being negative for the game? Decompressing by decompressing at a higher BR? Not moving the planes that have caused the issue? Where have I seen THAT before.
@@Loudward__ clearly, instead of moving the planes around the F3H up, we should move it down!!! Honestly though this is by no means the dumbest change they've done 🤣
@@GeneralLee2000any farther and a full down teir would mean you the only one with access to aams tho lol they need to stop grouping planes together that just don’t make sense going from 6.0-8.0 takes so much longer then it should
Since it didn't go into production and likely wouldn't have worked due to bouncing off of the limits of 1950's electronics, never? Unless they throw caution to the wind and add the Arrow as an even bird then it isn't happening.
spaded this recently, it was surprisingly fun once i got the performance upgrades, missiles are mostly just scare tactics but more importantly they didn't feel awful to use, they get and maintain a lock really well compared to other early radar missiles, even if they have no hope of actually hitting the target.
I remember how I was able to track ppl who were flying over the ground with Aim7s , for some reason Demon and Mig had their radars with PD on ))) despite having stabdart radars.
Good luck with the extractions! Personally, I was out of it for the evening I woke up, anesthesia is one hell of a thing but I made it through. I was stuck with milkshakes and mushroom soup for a while but do your best to avoid dry socket! Take no risks (I did after 4 days and didn't get dry socket but don't follow my example) and the antibiotics you take after surgery might do ya in too, good luck and do something funny before they knock ya out!
aircraft that can put preform a sabre, and then shoot it down with a missile if the sabre tries to escape, matchmaking like this is why i dont play anymore
Best of luck with the wisdom teeth, I think its a bit of a luck of the draw in terms of recovery😅 I had 3 taken out last year and I think I got off super lucky compared to my friends
I think it also really depends on your dentist. I’ve been super lucky with my dentist, so getting my wisdom teeth out wasn’t too bad. The only thing that did kind of suck is that they originally planned to get all 4 out at once, but then only took 2 out in a single session because it was proving quite difficult…
G'day GL, I'm rather baffled by that MiG-21SPS-K, they're clearly running the SPS-141 pod & they pop CM yet then just forget afterwards trying to secure the kill.
Take your time getting back. Had 4 wisdom teeth being removed at once, with one being impacted. Those were a rough couple of weeks, be sure to have easy to eat food. Instant mash potatoes, mac and cheese and evening a milkshake but be sure to use a spoon and no straws
Did you ever tried the vautour's matra 511? Because i didn't have this plane but i strongly doubt any Sparrow can be worst than the matra 511, the engine stays active for so long while barely pushing the missile that the only reliable kills are bombers. Anyone else when sees it coming do a little maneuvering and is all it takes to defeat it
Wisdom teeth removal, ugh. I had a strep infection the same time I got mine out. Woke up after the surgery noticing my throat was hurting a ton. Doctor I went to see about it (I was very convinced I had strep because I had just had it 4 months before and recognized the feeling very quickly) was very doubtful and was for some reason questioning me heavily on why my wisdom teeth were removed... cuz he has a problem with people getting them out for some reason. They did an overnight test and it was positive the next day :) screw that guy.
Just got my teeth out a couple months ago, make sure to get those pain killers and also rinse out the holes with salt water a lot as they can build up with nasty food particals and such.
ive had my wisdom teeth removed its going to be alr you will be in a lot of pain for about 1 days the second day you get used to it and the 3rd you will have trouble eating but you will be able to talk on the 3rd all i did was just sleep a lot
The aim7-Cs would still be bad at 7.0 arb, it has a small burn time low turn rate, and the planes radar loses track all the time. The f3 is my 3rd favorite us built plane but it just sucks to play
Don't want to scare you but I had all 4 of my wisdom teeth cut out. And it took me 2 months not to have any pain and I still have some nerve damage and can't feel a part of my lip. But I just have really bad luck when it comes to the dentist. So I am the horror stories you hear about when it comes to wisdom teeth. Hopefully you will be fine best of luck to you.
I've been pretty bored with Air RB lately, and decided to try getting an ace with both the R2Y2, and the ME 262 C2B. As much as the F3H isnt the *best* plane, it sure is annoying to try and counter swarms of supersonic aircraft that just start running trains on you.
so you are saying that somehow second gen radar missile Aim-7c is worst than 1km effective range mouse steered first gen radar guided missile that is fireflash? Are you sure or you just forgotten that they exist?
@@GeneralLee2000 Like If that's your honest to god opinion it's ok. it's just suprising. Like effectivness of fireflash is very inconsistent - you never know when it will track effectively sometimes you are in perfect postion everything is perfect and yet it screws up. On the other hand i once gotten a chase down kill on a mig -21 from like almost 3 km after i missclicked. That would mean that Aim-7c is consistently afful.
Is it even fair to other sparrows to lump those in with the rest of them? I tried to make them work giving them the best possible conditions and in like 50 battles carrying 4, and I got one kill and hit one plane that was already destroyed. All other 100+ shots failed. It basically needs skin on skin contact to detonate but the guidance is completely not up to the task.
The reason why the F-16A lacked AIM-7 in real life is because the light weight fighter mafia realized that the radar seeker technology wasn't mature yet, so it was better not to waste money to carry them. However later F-16 variants eventually equipped with the more modern versions as technology progressed.
@@Onezmhuno not really. This aircraft isn’t very good. And most Russian vehicles are preforming extremely well compared to everyone else. Wile only a few us vehicles do good. Most us planes aren’t good. Only good for boom and zoom but can’t do to poor clime rates. P51 can’t clime can’t turn can’t keep speed. The only p51 that can turn is at 6.3 and fights jets. And 50 cals aren’t very good and are very inconsistent in game for aircraft. Sometimes one shoting aircraft or doing no damage. And most us aircraft use 50cals, the few us aircraft that us 20 mm cannons can’t turn and have poor accuracy. Most other countries have cannons that over preform by having an explosive impact of a 100 pound bomb. Russia has extremely maneuver aircraft at most brs and almost always have cannons. They clime fast and retain speed. Plus Russian tanks in game are put at extremely low BRs and are op wile us tanks keep getting put at high and higher BRs
@@T95man American vehicles are bad, which is why all of my good kdr planes are american, and almost none of my soviet planes have a decent kdr. That sure is weird, huh? US players complaining about their vehicles, on ground or air, is just massive cope. You have great vehicles, you are using them wrong. P51s can easily get 6 or 7 kill games even for a mediocre player like myself. You guys constantly dying to soviet/russian planes is just because you are bad.
Omg!!! So much complaining.. grow up adapt..competent pilots are getting 3 kills from the aim 7c EVERY GAME. Low quality pilots are about to disagree with this..👇🏿🤷🏾♂️
Wonder how well the missiles would do if you Lofted them say go up to 5k and then launch on people around 2-3k I think the missile might do better but who knows.
That's the US Navy 9.0 lineup: F3H-2, F4D-1 and F11F-1. All weird aircraft, but when they work they are very fun...
@@Jaeger_89 F11F is my personal favorite of them, though realistically the F4D is easily the best of them now that it's not ripping lol
@@GeneralLee2000 I agree. But the F11F is just Top 3 sexiest aircraft in WT, alongside the F-15 and Ta-152 H1.
Play it sometime for us, if you can :p
@@Jaeger_89 now I really wish they'd add the F11F-1F Super Tiger
@@squallleonheart7353 F11F should have been tech tree and the Super Tiger should have been the event one...
@@Jaeger_89 yeah that makes sense especially since from what I've seen there's only two prototypes of the super tiger
you know what else sees this? The Meteor Mk.8. and it's just such a lovely plane to fly :)
Oh, that thing is very very good. You can even beat mig15 and 17 with it. If they decide to not run away and use their speed advantage, that is.
I bought the Mk8 premium in last year's sales and I have played that thing so much it's stupid. I love it. It's just a really good all around performer.
@@alexturnbackthearmy1907which they do 99% of the time unless they’re absolutely brain dead. Only time when it’s actually good is when it’s in a downtier
@@cl3matis really wish I could make a video on it and it do well :(
@@GeneralLee2000 it’s call skill issue
It’s okay we’ve all been there 🫂
This thing is underrated for GRB. Counts as a fighter but carries a 3k lb bomb that can quickly get a double on enemies capping a base. I got a 8km 7C kill on a climbing propeller plane once too lol. The guns are amazing but the biggest downside is no flares and a bad speed bleed if you try to dodge missiles. The main 2 things on this plane to know are. 1. Don't try to lock with the ACM mode 2. It's easier for radar to pick up people above you and avoid ground clutter.
Or don't use the radar at all because you shouldn't be carrying the Aim-7C lol...
@@RedTail1-1 I still get kills with 9Bs in GRB so I'll take a longer range all-aspect version in exchange for having a tough lock 🤷♂
@@RedTail1-1I get more kills with it than AIM-9bB when I carried 2 each
@@Samulater_well it’s not actually longer range, it’s just useable from further out headon since the target is moving towards the missile, but it has less potential energy than a 9b so rear aspect even with a lock the 9b will travel further and give no warning
One other thing to point out, the Demon is, well, actually a demon in very low speed rate fights. The flaps are leading edge, and give you so much lift and AoA at speeds where most other jets will be falling out of the air. You'll just sit there at 300 kph and be able to point your nose just about anywhere you want except straight up.
This is obviously not a good idea when there's any risk of being third partied, but it gives you the option to fully commit to a 1v1 where you/'re able to bleed the speed of your opponent. If they keep turning, they'll eventually be forced to break off when they run out of lift, making them an easy target for an AIM-9B.
I feel like the F3H is a bit of a mismatched aircraft. Compared to its contemporaries it's pretty slow, yet the armament and airfoils are that of a plane that seeks to master high altitudes. It's great with dogfights, but it operates in a region where that's less of the focus. In a way, I could imagine an alternate history where the F11 and F3H swap wings and armaments and are better planes as a result, as cursed as they might look.
my luck is like this:"buys 2500 GE" - "2 minutes after finds a channel with a good decal" - "aww i have to wait for my next purchase now"
Sorry to hear that! Sales are coming soon at least...
I hope you enjoy, feel free to stick around :)
@@GeneralLee2000hey lee so since i finished USA what do you think is best to do next?
@@GeneralLee2000 yeah still have things to buy)
@@FutureGohanGlazerBritain, I have it up to 12.0 and 13.7 and it’s my favorite country I’ve finished so far
Wow look BR changes being negative for the game? Decompressing by decompressing at a higher BR? Not moving the planes that have caused the issue? Where have I seen THAT before.
@@Loudward__ clearly, instead of moving the planes around the F3H up, we should move it down!!! Honestly though this is by no means the dumbest change they've done 🤣
@@GeneralLee2000 If in doubt! Move it down!!!!!!!!
@@GeneralLee2000any farther and a full down teir would mean you the only one with access to aams tho lol they need to stop grouping planes together that just don’t make sense going from 6.0-8.0 takes so much longer then it should
The vampire f.b.5 which first flew in 1943 is going to see this abomination now
AIM-7B ARH when
@@Pvt_Wade that would be so dumb 🤣
Since it didn't go into production and likely wouldn't have worked due to bouncing off of the limits of 1950's electronics, never?
Unless they throw caution to the wind and add the Arrow as an even bird then it isn't happening.
Ah yes, 7.0 tomcat (f-3d)
@@FallenPhoenix86 i would kill for an Avro Arrow
spaded this recently, it was surprisingly fun once i got the performance upgrades, missiles are mostly just scare tactics but more importantly they didn't feel awful to use, they get and maintain a lock really well compared to other early radar missiles, even if they have no hope of actually hitting the target.
I remember how I was able to track ppl who were flying over the ground with Aim7s , for some reason Demon and Mig had their radars with PD on ))) despite having stabdart radars.
After trying so hard with the Aim-7C using an Aim-9B feels like using an Aim-9L
Good luck with the extractions! Personally, I was out of it for the evening I woke up, anesthesia is one hell of a thing but I made it through. I was stuck with milkshakes and mushroom soup for a while but do your best to avoid dry socket! Take no risks (I did after 4 days and didn't get dry socket but don't follow my example) and the antibiotics you take after surgery might do ya in too, good luck and do something funny before they knock ya out!
Im researching this, this is really good information, thanks
2:24 was a gnarly snot
they have utility tho, they force the enemy into a somewhat defensive position
Tbh i LOVE its cockpit design.
aircraft that can put preform a sabre, and then shoot it down with a missile if the sabre tries to escape, matchmaking like this is why i dont play anymore
Wait til bro sees vatour r511 at 8.3
@@darkatmos8877 I recommend sorting on my channel by most viewed 😁
Seriously. At least the Demon can kinda turn
Wonder if we're ever gonna get a Skyknight with beam riding sparrows...
I think the 163 just had a fuel explosion tbh, that sparrow didnt hit
Best of luck with the wisdom teeth, I think its a bit of a luck of the draw in terms of recovery😅
I had 3 taken out last year and I think I got off super lucky compared to my friends
@@liamboyle9199 I hope mine isn't too bad too...
I think it also really depends on your dentist. I’ve been super lucky with my dentist, so getting my wisdom teeth out wasn’t too bad. The only thing that did kind of suck is that they originally planned to get all 4 out at once, but then only took 2 out in a single session because it was proving quite difficult…
ive had aim-7Cs miss a head on from 2 miles out ive gotten a total of 2 kills in my time playing that plane
G'day GL,
I'm rather baffled by that MiG-21SPS-K, they're clearly running the SPS-141 pod & they pop CM yet then just forget afterwards trying to secure the kill.
Average tunnel vision... they would have been better off with the gun ngl.
I used F3H-2 for GRB to shoot down drones back then drone is available for lower BR.
Hope you have a quick recovery
Take your time getting back. Had 4 wisdom teeth being removed at once, with one being impacted. Those were a rough couple of weeks, be sure to have easy to eat food. Instant mash potatoes, mac and cheese and evening a milkshake but be sure to use a spoon and no straws
Delta V is not acceleration. It's a measure of how much the missile can change its velocity with the amount of fuel it has.
4:54 "we'll be russian soon enough if that lady gets the white house" - guy in wt chat
idk about worst missiles in the game lol but they are definitely up there
0:24 Agree! I was using Demon for some time and AIM-7C is THE WORST missile in the entire game. It's much better to carry AIM-9B on this plane.
@@FA-fo4qh yup! The meme factor is funny tho...
Did you ever tried the vautour's matra 511?
Because i didn't have this plane but i strongly doubt any Sparrow can be worst than the matra 511, the engine stays active for so long while barely pushing the missile that the only reliable kills are bombers.
Anyone else when sees it coming do a little maneuvering and is all it takes to defeat it
2:21 bro really just glossed over this shot
Jesus, might as well just stick the R3R slingers
Wisdom teeth removal, ugh. I had a strep infection the same time I got mine out. Woke up after the surgery noticing my throat was hurting a ton. Doctor I went to see about it (I was very convinced I had strep because I had just had it 4 months before and recognized the feeling very quickly) was very doubtful and was for some reason questioning me heavily on why my wisdom teeth were removed... cuz he has a problem with people getting them out for some reason. They did an overnight test and it was positive the next day :) screw that guy.
Me 162 getting sparrowed as God intended
Based
Aim7c at 9.0 is a big W
Isn't there the subsonic french radar missile on the vatour? I thought that was worse than the Aim7C
Just got my teeth out a couple months ago, make sure to get those pain killers and also rinse out the holes with salt water a lot as they can build up with nasty food particals and such.
Evil jonkler cart plane
ive had my wisdom teeth removed its going to be alr you will be in a lot of pain for about 1 days the second day you get used to it and the 3rd you will have trouble eating but you will be able to talk on the 3rd all i did was just sleep a lot
So this is just a better super mystere , right?
Gaijin still doesnt see the problem with f8u being 10.0😐
@@milt_125cc7 it went up to 10.3...
@@GeneralLee2000 It doesn't rlly do anything tbh.
EMIR HUSEYIN COSKUUUUNN!!!!!!! CcC
*Laughs in Baguette*
The aim7-Cs would still be bad at 7.0 arb, it has a small burn time low turn rate, and the planes radar loses track all the time. The f3 is my 3rd favorite us built plane but it just sucks to play
Try it in sim my man
LOL, i only have 3 wisdom teeth 😁
is there any reason to play this over the f100 though :3
@@prasopsus807 yes, better matchmaker :)
Don't want to scare you but I had all 4 of my wisdom teeth cut out. And it took me 2 months not to have any pain and I still have some nerve damage and can't feel a part of my lip. But I just have really bad luck when it comes to the dentist. So I am the horror stories you hear about when it comes to wisdom teeth. Hopefully you will be fine best of luck to you.
I've been pretty bored with Air RB lately, and decided to try getting an ace with both the R2Y2, and the ME 262 C2B.
As much as the F3H isnt the *best* plane, it sure is annoying to try and counter swarms of supersonic aircraft that just start running trains on you.
@@cagingskies9584 especially against a 262 haha, even if it has rockets.
Worst missile? Try Matra R511 and you will understand what "worst missile" is
so you are saying that somehow second gen radar missile Aim-7c is worst than 1km effective range mouse steered first gen radar guided missile that is fireflash?
Are you sure or you just forgotten that they exist?
Yup, you can at least do surprise headons with the fireflash. I would much rather have those than the 7C
@@GeneralLee2000 Like If that's your honest to god opinion it's ok. it's just suprising.
Like effectivness of fireflash is very inconsistent - you never know when it will track effectively sometimes you are in perfect postion everything is perfect and yet it screws up. On the other hand i once gotten a chase down kill on a mig -21 from like almost 3 km after i missclicked.
That would mean that Aim-7c is consistently afful.
Is it even fair to other sparrows to lump those in with the rest of them? I tried to make them work giving them the best possible conditions and in like 50 battles carrying 4, and I got one kill and hit one plane that was already destroyed. All other 100+ shots failed. It basically needs skin on skin contact to detonate but the guidance is completely not up to the task.
Wassup lee?
Oh no I’m late
US kids now even crying about a Radar missile against 8.0 these days...
The reason why the F-16A lacked AIM-7 in real life is because the light weight fighter mafia realized that the radar seeker technology wasn't mature yet, so it was better not to waste money to carry them. However later F-16 variants eventually equipped with the more modern versions as technology progressed.
they didnt wannt it to carry them at all, they are totaly against that stuff to this day
@@ratatataget this^ they wanted us to have Korean-War style dogfights in modern jets lmao
Certified russian bias moment
Bro what 💀
@@valentinbostridge5480 sarcasm, the most broken planes at many brs are american
@@OnezmhuGotta appease the majority wallet wielding crying babies amirite
@@Onezmhuno not really. This aircraft isn’t very good. And most Russian vehicles are preforming extremely well compared to everyone else. Wile only a few us vehicles do good. Most us planes aren’t good. Only good for boom and zoom but can’t do to poor clime rates. P51 can’t clime can’t turn can’t keep speed. The only p51 that can turn is at 6.3 and fights jets. And 50 cals aren’t very good and are very inconsistent in game for aircraft. Sometimes one shoting aircraft or doing no damage. And most us aircraft use 50cals, the few us aircraft that us 20 mm cannons can’t turn and have poor accuracy. Most other countries have cannons that over preform by having an explosive impact of a 100 pound bomb. Russia has extremely maneuver aircraft at most brs and almost always have cannons. They clime fast and retain speed. Plus Russian tanks in game are put at extremely low BRs and are op wile us tanks keep getting put at high and higher BRs
@@T95man American vehicles are bad, which is why all of my good kdr planes are american, and almost none of my soviet planes have a decent kdr. That sure is weird, huh?
US players complaining about their vehicles, on ground or air, is just massive cope. You have great vehicles, you are using them wrong. P51s can easily get 6 or 7 kill games even for a mediocre player like myself. You guys constantly dying to soviet/russian planes is just because you are bad.
Tu4 against aim7f lol
@@ibanana1871
The sparrow on the F-3H is literally useless. I say it a lot but it really is useless. It won't hit anything
@@RedTail1-1 then how was I hitting stuff in the video hmmmmm? 😤
@@GeneralLee2000 I say it might be useful in sim mode.
Soooooo my R2Y2's can now face Sparrow's (despite being dogshit) ,Nice
@@BF-109 luckily the sparrow is also horrid 🤣
helloo
@@WillCmac hello :)
@@GeneralLee2000 :]
The Me 163 😢
@@ItzCPU_ IT DESERVED IT
I dunno man the shafrir 1 is absolute garbage.
You know this is a radar missle right? You can take both ir 9b and 7c with this lil demon..
Also it weighs like FOUR HUNDRED pounds 😭 that’s 4 times the weight of a 9b… why do you want to ruin the realism?
And the F-16A can't even have access to the AIM-7 in any form at 13.0... right...
12.7 now.
Because It didn't carry it.....
@@mythicfour It's a block 10. It can't use them. You get the Block 15 ADF/20 MLU with them though at the same BR?
Omg!!! So much complaining.. grow up adapt..competent pilots are getting 3 kills from the aim 7c EVERY GAME. Low quality pilots are about to disagree with this..👇🏿🤷🏾♂️
Are these pilots in the room with us?
I love when Lee comes out with a video complaining about a plane the week after Defyn came out with the same plane and absolutely stomped with it
Wonder how well the missiles would do if you Lofted them say go up to 5k and then launch on people around 2-3k I think the missile might do better but who knows.