Our house had a multi-fuel burner when we moved in 34 years ago. Still got it. We're paying about £100 per cubic metre of logs from a tree surgeon. In my experience, logs burn best on a bed of ash (no grate), coal needs a grate.
Love my stove i have a freestanding one had it 10 years now even boiled a pan of water on the top and fried an egg so relaxing when its a cold winters day
Lit mine today, first time since March. I love my wood burner, only trouble is I don’t want to leave the room, so don’t get much done 😅 Yours looks very nice 👍
Thanks for your comment! The first thing we did when we moved in was to install this log burner, and i love it. The heat they give off is just different to central heating.
After I installed my clearveiw multi fuel stove last year I didn’t put the tv back in it’s place, a tv ruins the ambiance of the room, cancelled my license and haven’t watched tv for a full 12 months!!!, it is as you say the cave mans tv!!! , my dog is stretched out in front of it right now😂🔥
Another shout-out for clear view. Expensive but totally worth it, our 12kw is 10 years old this year and literally zero maintenance, just a wipe of the glass every week. Looks as good as new. No central heating so 12kw is great for wafting heat all round the house and it can take huge logs, 4 big logs last the whole evening.
Had my dutch log burner 4 years now, warms my 3 bed semi top to bottom no problem. Just a few points. If you go for a multifuel stove you have to factor in replacing the chimney liner every 5 years or so due to acid produced when burning Anthracite fuel type. Not my advice but my chimney sweep's. Also in a wood only stove you should leave the ash in until it almost reaches the ash lip. Then just remove about half the depth. Reason. The ash acts as an insulator which makes the stove more efficient. Kiln dried Logs are more expensive but can burn better and longer (and hotter ) at lower air intake settings. Ash is the best all round wood. Easy to light. Burns almost as hot as Oak and like Oak produces big coals which keep producing heat after you stop feeding Logs in. To maximise efficiency you should burn in cycles. Don't just keep on shoving Logs in. Allow the Logs to burn down to hot Coals (you will notice temperature drop as well). Then reload with Logs. Doing this can halve your Log consumption. Takes practice and improves as you get to know your stove. It took 2 years to become really proficient with mine. Now I can leave it half an hour ticking over on the Coals before adding another log. Good video, simple no fuss advice I hope you don't mind my input. Steve.
Cheers mate, we are moving soon and definitely would like to get one, cant help thinking the rope around the door the cleaning and ashes etc reminds me of our old Parkray coke fire from the 70s lol.
To be honest, the maintenance side doesn't really bother me. if you burn the wood corectly then the glass stays quite clean. The worst bit of cleaning the log burner is the ash, but you can get an ash vac for that if you want.
I bought a Stockton multifuel with a boiler about 10 years ago. It powers my hot water too. The best thing I’ve ever bought. Got to agree about laying in front of it.😍
Here in Western Canada I have a built in wood burning fireplace, winters here are extremely cold on the prairies. I light my fire usually 5 nights a week, I have my fireplace sweeped professional every summer, whether we have a fire place or not does not factor into our home insurance, which I thought was odd.
3:12 we have our two swept every year for £75 each. Would do it myself but house insurer will definitely want to see a sweep certificate if the home burns down. 😮
I have done mine ever since we installed the log burner. i have checked with the house insurance, and there is no legal requirement for a chimney to be swept.
@ I believe you’re in denial that they aren’t interested, I’ll choose to have the paper they WILL ask for, you won’t. Now I can think on other problems.
Always have the chimney swept. have a good specialist chimney sweep to do it, and more often than not, they will supply a certified visit and receipt. Again, good practice for insurance reasons.
Well, nearly every night in the winter and sometimes Saturday and Sunday. Our house has little insulation, and all the windows are rubbish, so as soon as the central heating goes off, the house goes cold.
@ more or less the same as us but we definitely use less wood we have the luxury of putting some coal on when we go to bed and it’s still on for me when I get up in the morning, weekends obviously
Yes, this was an impulse buy, i knew nothing about log burner but just liked the look of it 🤣. If i was buying again, i would have a freestanding multi fuel stove, but you live and learn. Do you change the grate if you just burn wood or does it stay the same.
We heat our house with 3 different wood burners I installed 20+ years ago. They provide wonderful heating, and cooking with wood is on another level! As the man says they are virtually maintenance free providing they are operated correctly. The most common errors I see are using the wrong type of or not properly seasoned-wet wood which burns inefficiently and creates smog and cokes up the flue. And/or not getting the stove to the correct operating temperature for efficient combustion which has the same results which are not good for the environment. A correctly installed and operated wood burning stove fuelled by locally sourced renewable energy can be a good solution for some people. However there is a lot of work involved with wood - especially if like me you actually cut down the trees and process them all by yourself!
Hi, thanks for your comment. We use locally sourced seasoned logs from a local tree surgeon, and that also keeps our costs down. The log burner is definitely one of our best purchases.
Hi, you would need to get someone to inspect the chimney to make sure it's suitable for a log burner. The installation is normally a straightforward process and only takes a few days.
I have a open fire with back boiler, it's OK for the room it's in and the hot water, but struggles with getting the radiators hot. Apparently an open fire is only 20% efficient, you briefly mentioned the stove was more efficient than the built in fire. As it's my main source of heating/hot water could you be more precise on their efficiency in a central heating situation thankyou
Cave man's tv. Not heard one before. We all had open hearth coal fires growing up a wee while ago. You can't roast chestnuts on a heat pump or a central heating radiator.
Great video - was thinking about getting one so helpful. Also, could you recommend a tool bag for a DiY’er ! I occasionally do DIY jobs for elderly neighbours and odd jobs at my local pub. I want something that is easy to load but I can access tools easily too.
Thanks for your comment about my lig burner video, i appreciate it! As for the tool bag, i would suggest something like this amzn.to/3AVN21F its not the cheapest but it will last. The other option is a toolbox which is easier to find tools amzn.to/4hT6BIC. Hope that helps
Had mine fitted/connected to an existing brick interior chimney, built in 1953. Heating engineer sent a camera up on poles, and was quite happy with it. (On a dvd for insurance purposes) Smoke tested to eliminate any internal leakage.
You don’t have to have a chimney lined,only previously had to line if it was on a gable end because of the risk of condensation in the chimney or if the chimney had problems. Have fitted log burners in property as old as the 1580s
I heard recently that Scotland backed down with their plans to ‘outlaw’ them. Bl**dy cheek !!! It’s all a scam but so many fall for it. All this ‘green’ stuff is the farthest from green as could possibly be ! Take wind farms that need oiling annually and burying underground at end of life 🤨 Treat yourself Mark, you won’t regret it 😊
The bulk bags may hold a ton of sand, but no way would you fit a ton of logs in a ton bulk bag unless they were saturated, I have weighed them you get anything around 300 to 600 KG at most depending on the type of wood and how it is packed, obviously the tighter and neater stacked it is put in the bag the heavier it will be. Also logs are sold by volume not weight due to varying moisture content, So as you say you pay £70 per ton, you are getting the volume of logs that fits in a ton bag, weigh them out, you will be surprised😆 Gaz Yorkshire
Yes, you are right, i can fit 3 tonne bags of logs in my transporter, and i know they don't weigh a tonne each, and in fact, it is volume. Probably not clear in the video, but that is how they are sold near me, per tonne bag.
@@FixitwithFowler 👍Yes I got a couple of 1 ton bags, they were birch, one weighed out at 327 Kilos the other was 380 Kilos but both looked the same fill level.
Ash should only be cleaned out periodically. A woodburning stove functions more efficiently when the wood is on a bed of ash. I clean out the ash every 10 - 20 burns.
Yeah its just seasoned for a few years, all hardwood. We have the log burner on nearly every evening from 4pm and nearly all weekend in the summer. thats why we use so many logs and also because its an inset fire.
...should never talk about firewood in terms of tons - the weight of logs is entirely dependent on how seasoned they are - ie. freshly cut logs are full of sap and are going to weigh significantly more than well seasoned logs. You should only think of firewood and of course buy it by the volume - ie. for example a cubic metre of logs is a good standard unit.
What you’ve got is a toy for people who live on housing estates. We have two in either end of the living room in our 1800’s Welsh cottage one of them has an oven we cook and bake on it. We also have one in our stone summer house with two foot thick walls which stay warm. Stop playing at other.
My opinion about burning wood it’s lovely but unless you have access to free or virtually free wood 🪵 it isn’t any more economical than fossil fuels but with three times the work & as for kilned dried wood that totally knocks the green side of it on the head.
Our house had a multi-fuel burner when we moved in 34 years ago. Still got it. We're paying about £100 per cubic metre of logs from a tree surgeon. In my experience, logs burn best on a bed of ash (no grate), coal needs a grate.
Love my stove i have a freestanding one had it 10 years now even boiled a pan of water on the top and fried an egg so relaxing when its a cold winters day
They are so relaxing, thanks for your comment
Lit mine today, first time since March. I love my wood burner, only trouble is I don’t want to leave the room, so don’t get much done 😅
Yours looks very nice 👍
Thanks for your comment! The first thing we did when we moved in was to install this log burner, and i love it. The heat they give off is just different to central heating.
@FixitwithFowler I agree. It is absolutely different ☺️
@JackieKay11 its so relaxing, especially in the colder months!
@@FixitwithFowler Yes, that was me today 😅 Normally a workaholic, finally a chance to chill out by the fire ☺️
@JackieKay11 i work away at sea so i really look forward to getting back and lying in front of the fire!
After I installed my clearveiw multi fuel stove last year I didn’t put the tv back in it’s place, a tv ruins the ambiance of the room, cancelled my license and haven’t watched tv for a full 12 months!!!, it is as you say the cave mans tv!!! , my dog is stretched out in front of it right now😂🔥
Its probably one of my best purchases to be fair. I use it loads, even when its not that cold!
Another shout-out for clear view. Expensive but totally worth it, our 12kw is 10 years old this year and literally zero maintenance, just a wipe of the glass every week. Looks as good as new. No central heating so 12kw is great for wafting heat all round the house and it can take huge logs, 4 big logs last the whole evening.
@StephenKing1000 thats brilliant, thanks for your comment!
Had my dutch log burner 4 years now, warms my 3 bed semi top to bottom no problem.
Just a few points. If you go for a multifuel stove you have to factor in replacing the chimney liner every 5 years or so due to acid produced when burning Anthracite fuel type. Not my advice but my chimney sweep's. Also in a wood only stove you should leave the ash in until it almost reaches the ash lip. Then just remove about half the depth. Reason. The ash acts as an insulator which makes the stove more efficient.
Kiln dried Logs are more expensive but can burn better and longer (and hotter ) at lower air intake settings. Ash is the best all round wood. Easy to light. Burns almost as hot as Oak and like Oak produces big coals which keep producing heat after you stop feeding Logs in. To maximise efficiency you should burn in cycles. Don't just keep on shoving Logs in. Allow the Logs to burn down to hot Coals (you will notice temperature drop as well). Then reload with Logs. Doing this can halve your Log consumption. Takes practice and improves as you get to know your stove. It took 2 years to become really proficient with mine. Now I can leave it half an hour ticking over on the Coals before adding another log. Good video, simple no fuss advice I hope you don't mind my input. Steve.
Hi, of course i dont mind your input! There are some really good points and tips there. Thanks for your comment!
Cheers mate, we are moving soon and definitely would like to get one, cant help thinking the rope around the door the cleaning and ashes etc reminds me of our old Parkray coke fire from the 70s lol.
To be honest, the maintenance side doesn't really bother me. if you burn the wood corectly then the glass stays quite clean. The worst bit of cleaning the log burner is the ash, but you can get an ash vac for that if you want.
@@FixitwithFowler Thanks
I bought a Stockton multifuel with a boiler about 10 years ago. It powers my hot water too. The best thing I’ve ever bought. Got to agree about laying in front of it.😍
Yeah, im so pleased with ours, but yours sounds really good, especially with the back boiler. Thanks for your comment!
Here in Western Canada I have a built in wood burning fireplace, winters here are extremely cold on the prairies. I light my fire usually 5 nights a week, I have my fireplace sweeped professional every summer, whether we have a fire place or not does not factor into our home insurance, which I thought was odd.
I think insurance varies from company to company. I use my log burner most nights in the winter, and i love it. Thanks for your comment!
3:12 we have our two swept every year for £75 each. Would do it myself but house insurer will definitely want to see a sweep certificate if the home burns down. 😮
I have done mine ever since we installed the log burner. i have checked with the house insurance, and there is no legal requirement for a chimney to be swept.
@@FixitwithFowler it’s not a legal requirement but it WILL be used as grounds not to pay out. Worth taking the risk you think?
According to Axa, it is not a requirement, and if it's not a legal requirement and you can prove you have maintained it, then what else can you do.
@ I believe you’re in denial that they aren’t interested, I’ll choose to have the paper they WILL ask for, you won’t. Now I can think on other problems.
Yeah, whatever makes you feel better.
Always have the chimney swept. have a good specialist chimney sweep to do it, and more often than not, they will supply a certified visit and receipt. Again, good practice for insurance reasons.
With the built in thermostat: As it burns down you move nearer until you are near enough to put some more fuel on. 😊
That's an idea, or just lie in front of the log burner like i do until im melting 😅
Thanks for info.
Thanks for your comment!
How often do you have your stove on?
I have a multi fuel and 4 tonne would easily last 2 winters . We have saved a fortune with ours
Well, nearly every night in the winter and sometimes Saturday and Sunday. Our house has little insulation, and all the windows are rubbish, so as soon as the central heating goes off, the house goes cold.
@ more or less the same as us but we definitely use less wood we have the luxury of putting some coal on when we go to bed and it’s still on for me when I get up in the morning, weekends obviously
Yes, this was an impulse buy, i knew nothing about log burner but just liked the look of it 🤣. If i was buying again, i would have a freestanding multi fuel stove, but you live and learn. Do you change the grate if you just burn wood or does it stay the same.
@ it’s just the same grate we only use coal at the end of the night or if it’s very windy outside
Well, that's good to know. For some reason, i thought you had to change the grate.
When the power cuts come which they will it will be your only source of heat. No electricity equlals no central heating.
Yeah, that is very true. I just need to keep a supply of wood!
We heat our house with 3 different wood burners I installed 20+ years ago. They provide wonderful heating, and cooking with wood is on another level! As the man says they are virtually maintenance free providing they are operated correctly. The most common errors I see are using the wrong type of or not properly seasoned-wet wood which burns inefficiently and creates smog and cokes up the flue. And/or not getting the stove to the correct operating temperature for efficient combustion which has the same results which are not good for the environment.
A correctly installed and operated wood burning stove fuelled by locally sourced renewable energy can be a good solution for some people. However there is a lot of work involved with wood - especially if like me you actually cut down the trees and process them all by yourself!
Hi, thanks for your comment. We use locally sourced seasoned logs from a local tree surgeon, and that also keeps our costs down. The log burner is definitely one of our best purchases.
Thanks for the info, i never knew you couldn't burn coal in a log burner! Are they hard to install? we have a chimney but its boarded over.
Hi, you would need to get someone to inspect the chimney to make sure it's suitable for a log burner. The installation is normally a straightforward process and only takes a few days.
A coal burning stove has a grate. Air has to be admitted primarily under the fire when coal is bring burned.
Thanks for your comment!
I have a open fire with back boiler, it's OK for the room it's in and the hot water, but struggles with getting the radiators hot. Apparently an open fire is only 20% efficient, you briefly mentioned the stove was more efficient than the built in fire. As it's my main source of heating/hot water could you be more precise on their efficiency in a central heating situation thankyou
Unfortunately, i don't know much about stoves that also do heating/hot water. You would need to speak to a specialist.
Cave man's tv. Not heard one before. We all had open hearth coal fires growing up a wee while ago. You can't roast chestnuts on a heat pump or a central heating radiator.
Hi, i just think the heat these give off is a different kind of heat. Although central heating is great for convenience i prefer my log burner
Great info 👍🏻
Thanks for your comment!
Great video - was thinking about getting one so helpful.
Also, could you recommend a tool bag for a DiY’er ! I occasionally do DIY jobs for elderly neighbours and odd jobs at my local pub. I want something that is easy to load but I can access tools easily too.
Thanks for your comment about my lig burner video, i appreciate it!
As for the tool bag, i would suggest something like this amzn.to/3AVN21F its not the cheapest but it will last. The other option is a toolbox which is easier to find tools amzn.to/4hT6BIC. Hope that helps
I’ve got the Dewalt tough system 2 and the wife has just bought me the large tool bag. It’s not cheap, £85, but it’s awesome..
A moisture meter is must.
Oh yeah, good tip
Ya just can't beat an open coal fire🔥
Definitely!!!
Important to mention that you must have the chimney lined in order to work properly.
That all depends on the chimney!
Had mine fitted/connected to an existing brick interior chimney, built in 1953. Heating engineer sent a camera up on poles, and was quite happy with it. (On a dvd for insurance purposes) Smoke tested to eliminate any internal leakage.
@Mmmmetro same here! Thanks for your comment
You don’t have to have a chimney lined,only previously had to line if it was on a gable end because of the risk of condensation in the chimney or if the chimney had problems. Have fitted log burners in property as old as the 1580s
Great info, been thinking about one the last couple of years. Do worry about the net zero nonsense being a factor in the future though.
Im sure there are ways around that. You can get DEFRA approved stoves to produce less smoke. I would install another log burner without a doubt.
I heard recently that Scotland backed down with their plans to ‘outlaw’ them. Bl**dy cheek !!! It’s all a scam but so many fall for it. All this ‘green’ stuff is the farthest from green as could possibly be ! Take wind farms that need oiling annually and burying underground at end of life 🤨 Treat yourself Mark, you won’t regret it 😊
Don't forget about moisture content of your wood. Very important. Best wishes. Al.
Great point! I did mention seasoned wood, but you're right, no good burning wet wood! Thanks for your comment
Good video fix it had my cave mans tv on last night 😅
Yeah, the cave mans TV (log burner) is easy to watch, with a simple storyline with no nasty surprises 🤣🤣🤣
The bulk bags may hold a ton of sand, but no way would you fit a ton of logs in a ton bulk bag unless they were saturated, I have weighed them you get anything around 300 to 600 KG at most depending on the type of wood and how it is packed, obviously the tighter and neater stacked it is put in the bag the heavier it will be.
Also logs are sold by volume not weight due to varying moisture content,
So as you say you pay £70 per ton, you are getting the volume of logs that fits in a ton bag, weigh them out, you will be surprised😆
Gaz Yorkshire
Yes, you are right, i can fit 3 tonne bags of logs in my transporter, and i know they don't weigh a tonne each, and in fact, it is volume. Probably not clear in the video, but that is how they are sold near me, per tonne bag.
@@FixitwithFowler 👍Yes I got a couple of 1 ton bags, they were birch, one weighed out at 327 Kilos the other was 380 Kilos but both looked the same fill level.
@Gazr965 i think it just depends on the type/density of the wood.
Ash should only be cleaned out periodically. A woodburning stove functions more efficiently when the wood is on a bed of ash. I clean out the ash every 10 - 20 burns.
£70 quid a ton not where I’m from try £150
Its from a local tree surgeon! You need to find one locally thats cheap
Not kiln dryed then; just seasoned, which is why you are burning so many logs.
Yeah its just seasoned for a few years, all hardwood. We have the log burner on nearly every evening from 4pm and nearly all weekend in the summer. thats why we use so many logs and also because its an inset fire.
Them sliding patio doors look old be good to do video replacing them
Yep, they are knackered. We are going to put a wrap around extension next year so they will be coming out!
One thing to know only a multifuel is worth the money
Why do you say that?
...should never talk about firewood in terms of tons - the weight of logs is entirely dependent on how seasoned they are - ie. freshly cut logs are full of sap and are going to weigh significantly more than well seasoned logs. You should only think of firewood and of course buy it by the volume - ie. for example a cubic metre of logs is a good standard unit.
Thanks for your comment
What you’ve got is a toy for people who live on housing estates. We have two in either end of the living room in our 1800’s Welsh cottage one of them has an oven we cook and bake on it. We also have one in our stone summer house with two foot thick walls which stay warm. Stop playing at other.
Brilliant toy, lol!
My opinion about burning wood it’s lovely but unless you have access to free or virtually free wood 🪵 it isn’t any more economical than fossil fuels but with three times the work & as for kilned dried wood that totally knocks the green side of it on the head.
Thanks for your comment