AMD: HPET On or Off? | Off = Less latency & stuttering, More FPS in MOST GAMES!

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  • Опубликовано: 15 июл 2024
  • Heard about HPET? Should you disable HPET? Will you get more performance? Well, I benchmarked a couple of titles and compared the differences on my AMD Ryzen 3900X and 1080 Ti. While some games were GPU limited, and others CPU, there was still an improvement for most of them with HPET being set to...
    Disable HPET: bcdedit /deletevalue useplatformclock
    Enable HPET: bcdedit /set useplatformclock true
    Link to Google Sheet with every result: s.tcno.co/HPET-Benchmarked
    Timestamps:
    0:00 - Explanation
    0:34 - What is HPET?
    1:42 - Latency changes
    3:25 - Game Benchmarks
    5:43 - Conclusion. Should you turn it off?
    7:00 - IMPORTANT NOTE on turning HPET Off & On
    7:56 - How to: Turn off HPET
    8:43 - Find missing HPET option
    8:59 - How to: Turn on HPET
    #HPET #Benchmark #AMD
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Комментарии • 227

  • @TroubleChute
    @TroubleChute  3 года назад +35

    *IMPORTANT TLDR*: While HPET may be 'snake oil', you may experience less stutting/input latency with it on/off. Try it for yourself.
    Further reading: www.overclockers.at/articles/the-hpet-bug-what-it-is-and-what-it-isnt
    Taken from article: In summary the problem is a very slow timer implementation of the High Precision Event Timer on modern platforms, that is used without care by the developers. Badly affected are Skylake X and Kaby Lake X. Impacts can also be shown on Threadripper, Coffee Lake and in some degree on Ryzen as well. It could be discussed if a slow functionality is a bug
    Test from above, for me on my AMD 3900X:
    - HPET ON: Interval: 1.531us, Avg. Frametime: 134.80, Max: 63.87ms, 99th: 10.97ms
    i.imgur.com/ddoC5VM.png
    - HPET Off: Interval: 0.026us, Avg. Frametime: 135.81, Max: 22.90ms, 99th: 12.55ms
    i.imgur.com/Pa0Urik.png
    While there is talk about HPET 'distorting time on your computer, making FPS differences - without more frames being sent to your monitor' - There is also talk about it making a noticeable difference with stuttering and micro stuttering.
    What I referred to as "Disabling" seems to be more 'letting Windows decide'.
    "bcdedit /deletevalue useplatformclock" actually doesn't DISABLE HPET, it gets rid of manual settings that you or a program could have set... "bcdedit /set useplatformclock false" would disable it.
    While it may or may not be 'snake oil': There was a noticeable, positive difference by removing the option completely with "deletevalue".
    A good source for discussion: www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/eoutjw/a_reminder_disabling_hpet_is_snake_oil/

    • @suhail-msk
      @suhail-msk 3 года назад

      Benchmark spelling is wrong on thumbnail. Fix it

    • @TroubleChute
      @TroubleChute  3 года назад +2

      ​@@suhail-msk Thank you
      Even after reading this comment , I still struggled to find it xD

    • @WinterOS
      @WinterOS 3 года назад +3

      @@TroubleChute So if i want to disable hpet just put bcdedit /set useplatformclock false???

    • @Slaa44h
      @Slaa44h Год назад

      Well
      Maybe this is the reason for my skylake i3 getting problems to run almost everything because of stutter issues

    • @sergvol3388
      @sergvol3388 3 месяца назад

      yes@@WinterOS

  • @normalman23
    @normalman23 2 года назад +11

    yup. this is an amazing FPS booster. thanks.

  • @user-dg6go4lk1l
    @user-dg6go4lk1l 3 года назад

    Great work keep it up

  • @mrsaul3709
    @mrsaul3709 3 года назад +75

    this video is so underrated.

    • @faridfeld8260
      @faridfeld8260 3 года назад +2

      Disabling HPET distorts the system's understanding of time, which causes the system to miscount the frames in a second. If one second isn't one second, then FPS isn't FPS anymore. This data is invalid.

      Most games use a function called QueryPerformanceCounter() call it "QPC" for short. It's a core Win32 API, and the most simple way to access the best timer available in the system. When a game is counting "frames per second," it's comparing frames rendered against the result of duration measured from QPC. Boom, that's FPS. That's not "backwards"! That's the simplest, most straightforward way to achieve the intended maths.
      HPET is not the only timer on the system. There are many timers, actually, and they work on a fallback basis. If a user disables a higher-resolution timer, the duration of time reported by two calls to QPC may not actually match the real elapsed time ("ticks") d/t lower timer precision. If the returned time from QPC is longer: reduced FPS. If the returned time from QPC is shorter: increased FPS.
      Without knowing how each game specifically reports FPS, it's impossible to determine why some games might report higher or lower effect. But the basic principle above shows one of many ways why tinkering with system timers can have deleterious effects on accurate performance reporting.
      This isn't the first time HPET on/off has been flagged. This allegation/discovery/claim (unsure which word to use) has been circulated for both AMD and Intel platforms over the years. It seems to reappear each time a new platform is released, and then dies off as debunking efforts progress

    • @swiftypopty1102
      @swiftypopty1102 3 года назад

      @@faridfeld8260 conclusion?should i have hpet just enabled?

    • @faridfeld8260
      @faridfeld8260 3 года назад

      @@swiftypopty1102 yes at all time!

    • @swiftypopty1102
      @swiftypopty1102 3 года назад +2

      @@faridfeld8260 I just left the hpet to a stock settings. there no diffrence at all with hpet off or on.

    • @vascoferreira221
      @vascoferreira221 2 года назад

      @@faridfeld8260 so its woth to disable?

  • @XBEAST321
    @XBEAST321 2 года назад

    Thanks Dude Love You

  • @japraptcars5338
    @japraptcars5338 3 года назад +95

    This made my FX 8320 go from 40% usage to as high as 80+ and hugely boosted my FPS. You just earned a new subscriber!!

    • @7peraltica
      @7peraltica 2 года назад

      did you speed up your games with Hpet on or off?

    • @mixskillter4785
      @mixskillter4785 2 года назад +11

      @@7peraltica By default HPET is enabled, so from the contex we can assume he meant disabling HPET boosted his FPS

    • @nokiddingudik
      @nokiddingudik 2 года назад

      what game ?

    • @Thesilentwolf7610
      @Thesilentwolf7610 2 года назад +3

      You know the less cpu usage is better right ? and the higher the gpu usage is better ?

    • @SviatoslavDamaschin
      @SviatoslavDamaschin 2 года назад +5

      @@Thesilentwolf7610 Uhm, the higher is the cpu usage = more frames are being fed to the gpu

  • @OllieBeanz
    @OllieBeanz 3 года назад +49

    Heads up that disabling in device manager and CMD line are the same thing. You can do either or.

  • @rhyvehr
    @rhyvehr 8 месяцев назад

    Holy jeebus this is insane. Game feels WAY better.
    I'm a competitive apex player so thanks m8

  • @warlordianx23
    @warlordianx23 Год назад

    Subscribed

  • @XXRAMI
    @XXRAMI 3 года назад

    Thnx Boss

  • @paveljelinek772
    @paveljelinek772 2 года назад +3

    I had a major perf. jump up on FarCry4, literally changed from unplayable to playable (ultra settinx), ryzen 5600X, 16GB 3866Mhz RAM CL 16, RX6600XT

  • @Rjey45ForteFev
    @Rjey45ForteFev 3 года назад +6

    Does ryzen 3 2200g include this tweak?

  • @puthutpanata7645
    @puthutpanata7645 10 месяцев назад +1

    NGL, i try to figure out why my valorant fps drop from 350 fps to 40 fps after i change my computer case, i think i made a mistake when i plug the power cable from the psu to all the hardware, so i disassemble my entire pc and plug it one by one carefully and my fps still stuck on 40 fps. after i watch this video i do the simple thing just disable the HPET via cmd (administrator) and device manager, and boom i get back my full performance pc on valorant, thx a lotm this 3 years old video saved my life

  • @ONE11WN
    @ONE11WN Год назад +5

    For me perfectly worked this command "bcdedit /set useplatformclock false" than the first original. But thank you anyway

    • @meme-zf7ew
      @meme-zf7ew Год назад

      bro just delete the value as setting it to false forces windows not to use host which is not recommended

  • @LateBandwagon
    @LateBandwagon 3 года назад

    True

  • @DrVektor
    @DrVektor 2 года назад

    i had tested in pubg disabling hpet and entered these bcd settings : disabledynamictick = yes amazing fps improvements i have seen. there is not stuttering there is not screen tearing. But some keyboard input syncronization issu but little bit maybe placebo i dont know.

  • @rhyvehr
    @rhyvehr 8 месяцев назад

    Ykno I was just thinking about it, and I was contemplating donating to this dude. Why doesn't youtube work donations right into the platform?
    Then they can take a cut, people get to choose what content has more or less value, less need for ad wars, etc.

  • @theHardwareBench
    @theHardwareBench 10 месяцев назад +1

    I was getting low 30 fps average in Starfield pirate battle with hpet on locked at 1080p low settings with a gtx1060. I turned it off and fps is now close to 40. Thanks

  • @YTSZAZU
    @YTSZAZU 3 года назад +2

    Fx 8300. Doubled fps in ori and the will of the wisps. 30+ to 60 fps framecap.

  • @AsKnownAsLucy
    @AsKnownAsLucy 6 месяцев назад +2

    For me, AMD user, HPET ON if your'e gaming with Freesync + Vsync. If HPET's disabled, Freesync gives stutter on my setup.

  • @charleshorseman55
    @charleshorseman55 5 месяцев назад

    So, having an asus board wherein I cannot disable HPET within BIOS, will this work?

  • @kennethshores8547
    @kennethshores8547 3 года назад +29

    This makes a huge difference in cyberpunk 2077 I've gotten a substantial performance increase with it off versus on all mine 5800 X

    • @talal-saud
      @talal-saud 2 года назад +1

      same here, i was getting 50-60 fps when hpet is on, on 1440p ulrta settings with dlss quality no ray tracing crowd density low
      but when hpet is off fps jump above 80

    • @nokiddingudik
      @nokiddingudik 2 года назад

      @@talal-saud really huge boost

    • @warlordianx23
      @warlordianx23 Год назад

      Damn we have both 5800x will gonna try it later

  • @xogmaster
    @xogmaster Год назад +47

    HPET Off made a significant difference for me in CSGO. Not FPS-wise, but in frame smoothness. It's noticeable with the eye. With HPET ON, I can load in a bot, stand in front of it, and wave my crosshair back and forth in front of the bot and notice frame skips / overlaps that look very much like a monitor's screen-tearing effect (look up screen tearing on youtube, plenty of quick examples). With HPET OFF, this effect GOES AWAY and the image moves CLEANLY across my monitor. It's like HPET ON is messing up the transmission rate to my monitor even though it's supposedly a solid 120hz. Possibly a Source engine bug!?

    • @novocainDaimon
      @novocainDaimon Год назад +1

      Same here: I'm on a 5900X with a 3080 12G, running games in 3440x1440. So I am definately gpu bound.
      While running 1080p before switching to UWQHD, I had massive sound problems with my Asus Xonar U7 mk.2. After disabling HPET the sound problems were gone.
      After switching to a 21:9 resolution screen, I always had problems with micro stutters, felt to me as if I was back in the days of SLI and CF, that horrible it was.
      After disabling HPET again, the 1% and 0.1% fps increased again and now are closer to the average fps...

    • @pixelztv5254
      @pixelztv5254 Год назад

      Are you turning it off through the BIOS or in the OS only?

    • @xogmaster
      @xogmaster Год назад +1

      @@pixelztv5254 BIOS

    • @novocainDaimon
      @novocainDaimon Год назад

      @@pixelztv5254 IF your BIOS has the option, disable it in there. But for me there's no such option, so OS it is...

    • @ronniecantiga5629
      @ronniecantiga5629 Год назад

      ​@@novocainDaimon if you dont have Hpet ur bios its on by default as for the OS it turn off already.

  • @coldacidio165
    @coldacidio165 2 года назад +1

    Hello. I have a great cpu and it was working fine a week ago. Now it lags so much and it goes so high without even doing anything. Do you have any solutions? Also can you explain what HPET is in other words because my pc is in another language.

    • @ogurec7344
      @ogurec7344 Год назад

      Go to nvidia/amd settings and switch high performance power plan off to optimal power and go to your amd/intel settings and set all to balanced settings, if helps let me know.

  • @joshjbeats
    @joshjbeats 3 года назад

    So we should use the deletevalue useplatformclock command instead of set useplatformclock no?

  • @spacerd
    @spacerd 3 года назад +3

    Disabling HPET alone boosted CP2077 20+ frames. 8600k paired with 3080.

  • @PSXMicha
    @PSXMicha 11 месяцев назад

    I saw in many other videos that you should only disable it in windows but NOT in the UEFI settings

  • @unspeakable3064
    @unspeakable3064 3 года назад +1

    Wow i was just looking for a video with the performance gains/loses of a Ryzen 3000 CPU with HPET on/off.
    What a coincidence you just uploded one.
    For some reason I can not use the deletevalue command because there is no useplatformclock line present... tho I have the option to disable it through the device manager.
    I am not sure at the moment if I get performance gaons out of it, but it seems to me at least that i get far less microstuttering in games witb the option turned of in the device manager.
    Gonna test it further tomortow, I am still using my ol Asus X370 Prime -Pro board paired with a Ryzen 3700x and a RTX 2070 Super.

    • @jawwk
      @jawwk 3 года назад

      "bcdedit /deletevalue useplatformclock" is default windows value

    • @unspeakable3064
      @unspeakable3064 3 года назад

      @@jawwk there is an errormessage for me that there is no such value even tho i never deleteed it.

    • @jawwk
      @jawwk 3 года назад

      @@unspeakable3064 yes, default there is no value set

    • @jawwk
      @jawwk 3 года назад

      it can't delete a value if there is no value to delete lol

    • @darkflightdreamer1698
      @darkflightdreamer1698 3 года назад

      @@unspeakable3064 then it is already deltded

  • @doodihealz7369
    @doodihealz7369 3 года назад

    +22 fps average in Valheim with AMD RYZEN 9 3900X/ Sweet deal. Thanks dude

  • @7PsychD
    @7PsychD 3 года назад +2

    Does this work on the TUF FX705DU laptop with the Ryzen 7 3750h? Do i have to disable HPET on the motherboard as well?

    • @PacanThree
      @PacanThree 3 года назад

      If you get or find out the answer to your question, please let me know. I also use this model of laptop. Thanks

  • @qpart
    @qpart 3 года назад +5

    more amd videos pls

  • @gscurd75
    @gscurd75 3 года назад +7

    This explains why people called me a liar when I said what kind of FPS I was getting in Cyberpunk. Mine was already disabled.

    • @Matrix27594
      @Matrix27594 3 года назад +4

      Without HPET your PC can't accurately determine the length of a second. Your FPS measurements are flawed and invalid because your CPU is no longer able to accurately measure time.

    • @bu11ymaguire
      @bu11ymaguire 3 года назад

      @@Matrix27594 so.. as long as it doesn't fucc performance and pc up...it's ok..I think.

    • @slainoncod
      @slainoncod 5 месяцев назад

      @@Matrix27594that’s entirely incorrect 😂

  • @anakinchokeholdonpadme4742
    @anakinchokeholdonpadme4742 3 года назад +3

    Dude thanks for this my FPS was fucked in my favorite games it was like 20 now it’s 80

    • @pigggle
      @pigggle 2 года назад +4

      how does this change it that much? such a random tweak

  • @grelgn4287
    @grelgn4287 3 года назад +1

    Can you test this on DOOM 2016 with both Vulkan and OpenGL so we can see the difference?

  • @check4566
    @check4566 Год назад +15

    If you disable HPET through the bios then yes this is bad as it changes the clock timer. You can see the timer resolution timer in the software standby list cleaner which should be at a value of 0.5 µs. If you disable HPET through bios you will now have a value of 0.47 µs or something very similar to this value that is NOT 0.5 µs
    So how do you disable HPET and keep the 0.5 µs clock?
    Answer = you disable HPET through device manager only and keep HPET enabled in bios also you need to run some CMD commands 👇
    Cmd commands
    bcdedit /deletevalue useplatformclock
    bcdedit /set disabledynamictick yes
    Now restart your PC and voila HPET is disabled completely AND you have the proper timer resolution of 0.5 µs
    Which will lower dpc latency
    Now Dpc latency is another thing which should be lowered on your system to get the best hit registry, best input latency and best lossless audio experience without any stutters
    Download latency mon
    Run it
    Check your dpc latency
    If its higher than 300 µs then you will have problems playing competitive shooters and playing lossless audio on software like foobar for example
    An amazing system will have below 100 µs dpc latency
    Also you will have to check your interrupts, application response, kernal
    Response and bios response times using a software called WHYSOSLOW
    now when you check this software and run it you need to make sure when you run the test ALL test results in ALL categories come back EXCELLENT 👌
    Now when you game you will have incredible performance and you should feel more 1:1 ratio with your system
    recommended
    Check out Panjo on RUclips
    Check out Fr33thy on RUclips
    They are the only tweakers you ever need to know about
    Happy tweaking but remember to take your time and back data up!

    • @6dr6
      @6dr6 8 месяцев назад

      Thanks

    • @reyzon2669
      @reyzon2669 7 месяцев назад

      man, can u do like a guide how to get

    • @franciscovalderrama3456
      @franciscovalderrama3456 7 месяцев назад

      Hi, thanks you so much :)
      I disabled HPET in device manager and fps and frametimes are improved.
      But in CMD I only can activate the second command, not the first one.
      Its because I have a ryzen 5 5600x and I'm on windows 10?

    • @km09991
      @km09991 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@franciscovalderrama3456its because the option wasnt there in the first place.

    • @d0wek746
      @d0wek746 Месяц назад

      Panjo is the best placebo tweaker

  • @lonelyjaco
    @lonelyjaco 3 года назад +10

    i have it disabled hpet as the min, 1%'s, and 0.1%'s are higher meaning certain games feel way more smoother due to the consistency

    • @Lead_Foot
      @Lead_Foot 2 года назад +2

      A majority of that is probably due to you no longer having a high frequency timer to even calculate FPS. You can't even accurately measure FPS without HPET on.

    • @lonelyjaco
      @lonelyjaco 2 года назад

      @@Lead_Foot although it cant be calculated accurately it did give me an fps boost and games seem to be a bit smoother.

    • @TheCollectiveHexagon
      @TheCollectiveHexagon 2 года назад +1

      @@Lead_Foot nope, it actually can

  • @Leelareso
    @Leelareso 2 года назад

    how can i check this in win 11 ?? its of or off bcedin /enum dont show this

  • @TophatOrange
    @TophatOrange 2 года назад +2

    So Freethy explicitly says DONT turn it of in the bios, showing it in ISLC that the value of the timer resolution isn't 0.5 (what you want.) who is right?

  • @mushroomboxing
    @mushroomboxing 3 года назад

    The option doesn't exist when I try to edit it in windows, and the option is missing from where my motherboard manual says it should be; but it IS running in device manager.

    • @baltogames1501
      @baltogames1501 3 года назад

      Same here, when I enter the line in CMD, it says" An error occurred while attempting to delete the specified data element. Element not found.", but I can also find HTEP in Device Manager.
      Edit: When I go to the general tab for it in device manager, it says that no drivers are installed for this device in the "Device Status" box. So, I guess it hasn't been running at all on my pc. I'm tempted to install the drivers to see if there is a difference, but I don't want to mess up a good thing.

  • @Aelron
    @Aelron 3 года назад +2

    Sorry for my English, but apart from useplatformclock, I also have
    bootmenupolicy Standard
    useplatformtick Yes
    disabledynamictick Yes
    Are these the correct values ​​or do I need to change any of them?

    • @Iuffycs
      @Iuffycs 2 года назад

      yes those are the correct values

    • @Aelron
      @Aelron 2 года назад

      @@Iuffycs thanks

    • @Iuffycs
      @Iuffycs 2 года назад

      @@Aelron np

  • @UpUpandaway132
    @UpUpandaway132 Год назад

    Does it also increase performance in ghost recon wildlands ?

  • @davidlarsen1981
    @davidlarsen1981 Год назад +4

    C:\Windows\System32>bcdedit /deletevalue useplatformclock
    An error occurred while attempting to delete the specified data element.
    Element not found.

  • @adriangp247
    @adriangp247 2 года назад

    can this create a problem were it takes forever to shut down my windows 11? especually if i want to restart... i have made a fresh install of windows and all that i can find on the web, research is not a problem, this just appeared in my mind that maaaybe it was causing it but idk.

    • @AeroTechRevolve
      @AeroTechRevolve Год назад

      i had this problem last year, my fix was letting windows manage virtual memory although it wasnt what caused the issue in the first place.

  • @nanii825
    @nanii825 3 года назад +3

    Was HPET also disabled in bios when you Benchmarked ?

    • @HackerTea
      @HackerTea Год назад

      At 7:35 he says he doesn't have a BIOS option for it if that helps.

  • @pulkit6453
    @pulkit6453 2 года назад

    i have a intel cpu and nvidia gpu what should i do ?

  • @aro7975
    @aro7975 3 года назад +51

    Nice video but don't disable it in Bios guys. Only Windows.

    • @alphaomega1969
      @alphaomega1969 Год назад +1

      Why?

    • @Sm0knn
      @Sm0knn Год назад

      @@alphaomega1969 yeah i need answers, i just disabled it in bios due to fps and stuttering issues in certain games only, person that told me to disable it said nothing about doing it in windows vs bios.

    • @ronniecantiga5629
      @ronniecantiga5629 Год назад +3

      ​​​​​@@Sm0knn The default timer of win 10 is using is TSC which build in Modern CPU without the help of HPET syncing the timer is more likely cause more input lag high dpc high cpu usage etc "so it best to leave it ON in the BIOS" even some idiot told you to disable it.

    • @check4566
      @check4566 Год назад +13

      @@alphaomega1969
      If you disable HPET through the bios then yes this is bad as it changes the clock timer. You can see the timer resolution timer in the software standby list cleaner which should be at a value of 0.5 µs. If you disable HPET through bios you will now have a value of 0.47 µs or something very similar to this value that is NOT 0.5 µs
      So how do you disable HPET and keep the 0.5 µs clock?
      Answer = you disable HPET through device manager only and keep HPET enabled in bios also you need to run some CMD commands 👇
      Cmd commands
      bcdedit /deletevalue useplatformclock
      bcdedit /set disabledynamictick yes
      Now restart your PC and voila HPET is disabled completely AND you have the proper timer resolution of 0.5 µs
      Which will lower dpc latency
      Now Dpc latency is another thing which should be lowered on your system to get the best hit registry, best input latency and best lossless audio experience without any stutters
      Download latency mon
      Run it
      Check your dpc latency
      If its higher than 300 µs then you will have problems playing competitive shooters and playing lossless audio on software like foobar for example
      An amazing system will have below 100 µs dpc latency
      Also you will have to check your interrupts, application response, kernal
      Response and bios response times using a software called WHYSOSLOW
      now when you check this software and run it you need to make sure when you run the test ALL test results in ALL categories come back EXCELLENT 👌
      Now when you game you will have incredible performance and you should feel more 1:1 ratio with your system
      recommended
      Check out Panjo on RUclips
      Check out Fr33thy on RUclips
      They are the only tweakers you ever need to know about
      Happy tweaking but remember to take your time and back data up!

    • @cristianramos2867
      @cristianramos2867 4 месяца назад

      ​@@check4566thats not true at all but it has to do with windows specific versions and they changed TimerResolution the way it worked, I have both disabled in w11 and my clock speed is totally fixed

  • @PugglesWuggles
    @PugglesWuggles 2 года назад +1

    Is there a downside to turning this off?

  • @osamaxd5963
    @osamaxd5963 3 года назад

    An error occurred while attempting to delete the specified data element.
    Element not found. this the massage i get when i paste the disable command

    • @osamaxd5963
      @osamaxd5963 3 года назад

      oh wait i tried the enable command and its work then i tried the disable command and its also work :D

  • @EVILOSERUN
    @EVILOSERUN 2 года назад +1

    Hi, do I have to disable it twice? In Device Manage and through command prompt?

    • @tac-cobserver3788
      @tac-cobserver3788 2 года назад

      In the command prompt and if we run it as administrator
      As far as i know. We just changed the system with our high authority as an admin or the owner of the PC/Laptop we have or lets say, we just access the system Data Base. In the other hand, if we just run it with non-admin, it means we dont have authority to touch the data base.
      That's all i know about the option of As Admin or non-Admin option.

  • @evoomss
    @evoomss 2 года назад +25

    Thank you so much!! Fixed my problem. I was getting 115-150 fps on valorant in practice . After I did this, my FPS is back to 600-700+ . Im running a 5900x 3070 ti so there was no way i should be getting that low FPS in the first place.

    • @iAdam43
      @iAdam43 2 года назад +2

      you turned it off on on?

    • @wrathybear
      @wrathybear 2 года назад +31

      700 fps? lmao

    • @Rem_NL
      @Rem_NL 2 года назад +13

      @@wrathybear i believe him, disabling HPET is cripeling your PC to count frames accurately, so even numbers as high as 600 fps are possible. He isn't actually getting those frames, but the PC cant properly count any more

    • @rhozq
      @rhozq 2 года назад

      I get 300fps in tf2 home menu

    • @XxViperMortalxX
      @XxViperMortalxX 2 года назад

      @@Rem_NL nope, i tought that was it but nope... i had constant massive stutters on path of exile while using dx11, whenever shader were loaded i would have massive stutters and cpu usage spikes, thats true for borderlands 3 too but this time with dx12... both games now run with about the same fps, maybe a lil 5-10 fps boost but not sure, and the sutters are fixed.
      gpu and cpu usage both increased, which is good because having both low with lower fps or stutters isnt what should happen.
      how did i find that out u may ask, well i was having stupid stutters every fking game i played (even with hpet off), formated pc did all those things only to find out that freesync+vsync causes a fk ton of stutters and micro stutters, which i fixed by disabling vsync in gpu control panel but then i still had some stupid MASSIVE stutters that i did not have before, and it all seemed to have something to do with the way gpu afected cpu usage kinda like cpu wasnt keeping up but it should, so cpu usage was kinda low yet gpu was also low.
      keep in mind this may not work for everyone, and from my research it seems to help more ryzen cpus than intel (tho if anything just test with it default and off, if its worse off then just go back to what it was, preferably with a restore point)
      btw the correct way to truly disable hpet is as follow (do it in order from first to last, then reboot pc)
      disable from device manager, search how to do it, since my computer isnt in english i cant give you clear directions, sry.
      open cmd as admin and use those in order:
      bcdedit /set useplatformtick yes
      bcdedit /set disabledynamictick yes
      bcdedit /deletevalue useplatformclock

  • @TylerYang
    @TylerYang 2 года назад

    Does it work for Intel cpu?

  • @stargirl5194
    @stargirl5194 4 месяца назад

    i have 4k monitor, playing at 4k
    i wonder what results will be when i disable it

  • @prexxzor
    @prexxzor Год назад

    Works HPET disabled + ISLC on?

  • @anda718
    @anda718 3 года назад +15

    An error occurred while attempting to delete the specified data element.
    Element not found

    • @YotakuMC
      @YotakuMC 3 года назад

      then it's already disabled

    • @benoit8381
      @benoit8381 2 года назад

      @Beauty Thief You're the man thanks

    • @p_enta5012
      @p_enta5012 2 года назад

      @Violet Alice Thank you so much

  • @linlathein4248
    @linlathein4248 3 года назад +3

    An error occurred while attempting to delete the specified data element.
    Element not found. can't pass this commend

  • @sansao15712341571234
    @sansao15712341571234 Год назад

    pra mim oque entregou melhor desempenho foi o bcdedit /deletevalue useplatformclock

  • @AlluringPegasu13
    @AlluringPegasu13 3 года назад

    if ur games frezes or shutters off it

  • @Arthur-cc6pc
    @Arthur-cc6pc 3 года назад +1

    Do vulcan pls!

  • @mw2dare
    @mw2dare 3 года назад +2

    could you please show us how to do it when we at the bios? so we don't make any mistakes... thanks

    • @TroubleChute
      @TroubleChute  3 года назад +1

      To different for every motherboard. Usually under CPU settings. Some motherboards have a search feature.
      HPET is what you're looking for.
      A Google search with your motherboard brand/model should help the most

    • @mw2dare
      @mw2dare 3 года назад

      @@TroubleChute thanks a lot !

    • @immaheadout1946
      @immaheadout1946 3 года назад +2

      you should not disable hpet in bios but only in windows

  • @Bollalillo
    @Bollalillo 2 года назад +16

    You shouldnt disable it in Bios apperantly, there are some softwares that needs it so you can break stuff.
    Just disable it in windows and you'll be fine.
    BIOS: HPET ON
    OS: /deletevalue useplatformclock, useplatformtick yes, disabledynamictick yes

  • @RobertCrivat
    @RobertCrivat 3 года назад

    When I type "bcdedit /deletevalue useplatformclock" in my cmd it says "The boot configuration data store could not be opened.
    Access is denied." even though I opened it in administrator mode 5 times. I have an ASUS PRIME B350M-A which doesn't have HPET in BIOS.

    • @RobertCrivat
      @RobertCrivat 3 года назад

      Sometimes it says "An error occurred while attempting to delete the specified data element.
      Element not found." instead of "The boot configuration[...]".

    • @arszene4129
      @arszene4129 3 года назад +2

      @@RobertCrivat try "bcdedit /set useplatformclock false"

    • @martmart.
      @martmart. 2 года назад

      @@arszene4129 this worked, thank you

  • @AmirAmjad1995
    @AmirAmjad1995 3 года назад

    While using LatencyMon its show both hpet on and off with good conclusion lol

  • @kucingganteng3148
    @kucingganteng3148 3 года назад +10

    such a boost, but at what cost?

    • @2007excalibur2007
      @2007excalibur2007 2 года назад +1

      Accuracy and validity.

    • @kucingganteng3148
      @kucingganteng3148 2 года назад

      @@2007excalibur2007 i tried it on my system laterly, i got lower framerate 🥴

    • @slaydog5102
      @slaydog5102 2 года назад

      @@kucingganteng3148 i got lower but less input delay

  • @AnlYALCINN
    @AnlYALCINN Год назад

    Can not disable ASUS ROG STRIX B550A GAMING ^^
    with any program doesn't work..

  • @user-iq2qj8qw4r
    @user-iq2qj8qw4r Год назад

    Что будет при отключении hpet нестабильная работа компьютера

  • @max-power1023
    @max-power1023 Год назад

    i have a issue.if i have hpet on my games and pc runs super slowly and games have like 60-70fps? and when i turn hpet off i have 200 ms in games. so like wtf

  • @royst680
    @royst680 3 года назад +6

    It says : Can't find element. When i type in bcdedit /deletevalue useplatformclock. What should i do about that?

    • @sticky4555
      @sticky4555 3 года назад

      that means it already has been deleted, so it's off.

    • @user-cc2fm4vu2x
      @user-cc2fm4vu2x 3 года назад

      No, that command doesn't always work. There is one more cmd to disable it, search amd you will find it. I used the same cmd.

    • @user-cc2fm4vu2x
      @user-cc2fm4vu2x 3 года назад

      It should be set useplatform clock false or something.

    • @businesspole
      @businesspole 3 года назад

      @swiezakjp dzieki za pomoc

  • @righteousone8454
    @righteousone8454 8 месяцев назад +1

    I can attest that latency in LatencyMon is SUBSTANTIALLY better with HPET OFF, but frame to frame pacing in gaming is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY worse with RTX 4080 i9-13900k.
    Don't use HPET OFF for gaming, my word of advice.
    HPET OFF is great for audio recording

  • @Withlyr
    @Withlyr 3 года назад +12

    windows 10 already deactivates it in most games because if you force it to ON you will see your fps drop so I think you should not touch it

  • @lev3271
    @lev3271 2 года назад +15

    Stock HPET: bcdedit /deletevalue useplatformclock
    Disable HPET: bcdedit /set useplatformclock false
    Enable HPET: bcdedit /set useplatformclock true
    dislike

  • @samuelcassunde2912
    @samuelcassunde2912 3 года назад +5

    Fix stuttering in my games using RX 580.

    • @shafinrahman2199
      @shafinrahman2199 3 года назад

      Me too on my RX 570 8gb

    • @JosEffigy
      @JosEffigy 2 года назад

      what is your cpu?

    • @JosEffigy
      @JosEffigy 2 года назад

      @@shafinrahman2199 what is your cpu? and how much ram, with how many ram sticks

  • @gamebenchmarks9715
    @gamebenchmarks9715 8 месяцев назад +1

    HPTE OFF TANKS performance in frame to frame time. Increases stutters in titles such as Insurgency Sandstorm. This does NOT work on every case scenario.
    Would be cool to see improvement in ms in frame time, but I would take less fps but consistent frame to frame than more fps and worse ms response.

  • @thetechies8306
    @thetechies8306 2 года назад

    it didn't worked for me :( my pc started lagging and my fps in valorant went from 70+ fps to 15-20 fps WTF and my pc became slow and unstable so i thought to reenable it but that didn't worked as well:( so this video ruined my pc it might worked for some people but for majority it won't and any help guys? like should I reinstall the windows ? it looks like this is the only option :(

    • @adriannstg3421
      @adriannstg3421 2 года назад

      Comment is 2 months old but all you needed to do was change the HPET setting your BIOS as well.

  • @Mobiledash52
    @Mobiledash52 3 года назад +2

    what about Intel cpus?

    • @woofaki5550
      @woofaki5550 3 года назад +1

      No gains at all on my 7700k,not sure about other intel CPUs tho

    • @Mobiledash52
      @Mobiledash52 3 года назад

      @@woofaki5550 same I set it to default.

  • @LudwigvanBeethoven2
    @LudwigvanBeethoven2 2 года назад

    Why hpet is a thing if it just causes problems

  • @wyndyllchua6920
    @wyndyllchua6920 3 года назад

    What if on intel

  • @kerbii9441
    @kerbii9441 3 года назад

    should i disable hpet in bios if i disabled it in windows?

  • @REAPER85151
    @REAPER85151 Год назад

    hpet on must have 24mhz not 14

  • @Synthematix
    @Synthematix 2 года назад

    Windows10 doesn’t use hpet

  • @nemesiz7175
    @nemesiz7175 2 года назад +1

    trash af settings cant reset it. dont do that. maybe on of you can have the same issue like me. have now ultra hardcore af fps drop and -100 fps. bullshit!

  • @lain39x
    @lain39x 3 года назад

    This has side effects, ive amd ryzen system when i alt tab valorant crashes.i got 7 day ban because of this bs

  • @Fighterlm
    @Fighterlm 3 года назад

    S

  • @dublicator_2.0
    @dublicator_2.0 2 года назад +1

    how to return it?

  • @WhereTheCash
    @WhereTheCash 2 года назад +1

    wrong disable it in windows but dont disable it in bios

    • @Sm0knn
      @Sm0knn Год назад

      why? i need answers lol
      just did both so

  • @KosterEntertainement
    @KosterEntertainement 3 года назад +1

    lol hpet on/off AND off STOCK off stock is better

  • @Antyss08
    @Antyss08 Год назад +9

    ⚠Disabling HPET distorts the system's understanding of time, which causes the system to miscount the frames in a second.
    If one second isn't one second, then FPS isn't FPS anymore.
    This data is invalid.

    • @exaq
      @exaq Год назад

      don't most Windows 10/11 builds disable HPET by default? that was the case for 2 of my friends (not saying what you said is incorrect)

    • @fadedxwilson947
      @fadedxwilson947 Год назад

      I have a rtx 3070 gpu nvidia geforce and intel core i7 gaming laptop. Should i enable or disable HPET?

    • @fadedxwilson947
      @fadedxwilson947 Год назад

      @@exaq just got a new gaming laptop rtx 3070 nvidia gpu and HPET was set as ON by default. windows 11

    • @exaq
      @exaq Год назад

      @@fadedxwilson947 some people say hpet boosted fps and others that it lowered fps u should try playing with it on for now then after like 1 or 2 hours switch to off and see which performs better for u

    • @Antyss08
      @Antyss08 Год назад +1

      @@fadedxwilson947 Probably the same level of technical expertise that leads to people thinking they need to set the core count with msconfig to get a "performance boost".
      Placebo effect.

  • @JohnBbDog69
    @JohnBbDog69 3 года назад

    it wont even let me open bcdedit lol

    • @ericviola8659
      @ericviola8659 Год назад

      Right click command prompt and run as administrator , then type the command

  • @simonmattsson527
    @simonmattsson527 2 года назад

    I have more fps with it on and does my friend..

  • @ml_serenity
    @ml_serenity 2 года назад +1

    FYI, latest builds of Windows 11 (as of July 2022) have HPET off by default.

    • @sga6622
      @sga6622 Год назад +1

      Source? I don't even see it in the system devices anymore. And most motherboards have it on by default. (So if it's set to useplatformclock true
      it may still be using it)

    • @ml_serenity
      @ml_serenity Год назад

      @@sga6622 Because that's what I see here. It's off by default.

    • @embr33
      @embr33 Год назад +1

      It is not true

  • @kudosstyle24
    @kudosstyle24 3 года назад +1

    Oh god you would be suffering from bad hitreg if u do this

    • @rmuns1262
      @rmuns1262 2 года назад

      What does this mean?

    • @kudosstyle24
      @kudosstyle24 2 года назад +1

      @@rmuns1262 HPET ON = poor fps/stutter + input lag but nice bullet registration and sync on games.
      HPET OFF = fps boost smoother experience lower input lag and a terrible hit registration and sync problems.

    • @rmuns1262
      @rmuns1262 2 года назад

      @@kudosstyle24 Thanks for your explanation. So are you saying the system will have a hard time registering accurate shot placement from a gun?

    • @ronniecantiga5629
      @ronniecantiga5629 Год назад

      ​@@kudosstyle24 oh finally someone actually undetstand.

  • @Lolcuwu1
    @Lolcuwu1 21 день назад

    went from 140fps to 900 fps on valorant, ggs

  • @wecome72
    @wecome72 Год назад +2

    You don't need those CMD Prompt commands, if you disable or enable HPET in the windows Device Manager. Both ways are exactly the same thing.

    • @fadedxwilson947
      @fadedxwilson947 Год назад

      I have a question i have a rtx 3070 gpu nvidia and intel core i7. Should i enable or disable HPET?

    • @wecome72
      @wecome72 Год назад

      @@fadedxwilson947 ..with Intel. leave HPET enabled...with Ryzen, disable it.

    • @fadedxwilson947
      @fadedxwilson947 Год назад

      @@wecome72Tyvm, I have one more question if you don't mind taking the time to answer it. In Windows 11 & 12 Registry Editor there is a thing called Timer Resolution. Should I disable it or should I turn it on and put it to 0?

    • @wecome72
      @wecome72 Год назад

      @@fadedxwilson947 set it to 0