Could the Revstar EVER Be a Classic Guitar?

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Комментарии • 163

  • @tonedowne
    @tonedowne Месяц назад +12

    I like Beato but saying you need to have certain guitars to be taken seriously idiocy.
    All the session playing I did was on a Westbury Standard. Any reservations about it being an off brand guitar disappeared when I plugged it in.
    I had a few people try to buy it off me after playing it.
    Either a guitar does the business or it doesn’t.

  • @davidvest7170
    @davidvest7170 Месяц назад +2

    Without doubt. The Revstar Standard is incredible all round for the price, and looks both cool and classic.

  • @GitShiddy
    @GitShiddy Месяц назад +18

    The answer to the title is yes. I have a nothing channel but every thing I post that involves the Revstar immediately becomes my best viewed video. I firmly believe the Revstar Standard is, local currency for local currency, the best guitar you can buy. It's becoming the defacto answer for "What do I get if I want a good P90 guitar?" get a Revstar. I recently said the Revstar II is a top 10 Guitar silhouette (the Revstar II specifically because of the size increase making the proportions right imo), and it's technically a new shape (It's a Super Flighter but nicer) . I agree the quirky electronics are more gimmicky marketing stuff than actually useful. But if it was just 2 pickups/3-way switch...I think it would be less appealing on paper, but more appealing in practice. Which is why I just ignore all the gimmick stuff unless I need something really specific, in which case....I do have it. A new colour way would be welcome, even as a limited thing. But beyond Yamaha not just marketing the crap out of it and getting it in peoples hands, there's nothing in my mind stopping the Revstar from becoming what the PRS has become.

    • @ChidOki
      @ChidOki Месяц назад

      I’m surprised you see the extra pickup positions and focus switch as gimmicks. First time I’ve heard that take anywhere, and as you mentioned, the Revstar has gotten quite a bit of attention and a lot of content/commentary on it….

    • @GitShiddy
      @GitShiddy Месяц назад

      @@ChidOki From personal experience & just anecdotal evidence the extra stuff has an air of malaise. I've yet to hear anyone rave about the 5 way or the push/pull. But still I'd rather have it & not need it.

    • @ChidOki
      @ChidOki Месяц назад

      @@GitShiddy I guess I’m getting technical with the term “gimmick”, which implies a meaningless trick. I think it is an honest effort on Yamaha’s part to do something that hasn’t been done before, but also create an actual usable sound. A gimmick is different from just not liking it, I have no problem with that. It doesn’t have to be everyone’s cup of tea. And although i have seen videos where people say they don’t care for the extra pickup positions, I have also heard multiple videos where people talk about positions 2 & 4 being their favorite because it’s something different. Also, others say that they love the focus switch for jazz or other genres. (I definitely think whether or not one likes all the Revstar sounds mostly comes down to whether or not you play certain genres/styles).
      One of the main reasons I got interested in a Revstar in the first place is because of how many people talked about it having so many usable sounds and sound combinations. That’s why I was saying it was the first time I heard anyone say they thought it was just all marketing and gimmicks. I’ve only heard people say they thought it was cool Yamaha tried something new, but they just didn’t personally like it.

    • @GitShiddy
      @GitShiddy Месяц назад +1

      @@ChidOki Completely get where your coming from. Please note I'm using gimmick in terms of marketing not functionality. I think all that stuff has to be there because 2 pickup/3-way switch isn't as sexy for marketing purposes. That's the use of gimmick here. Beyond that, fear your reading too much into a word mate.

    • @ChidOki
      @ChidOki Месяц назад +1

      @@GitShiddy that’s a great clarifier, thanks. Although I was being a bit polite, I wasn’t getting technical, it’s just the simple definition of what a gimmick is. I don’t think the word is being fairly applied here to Yamaha. But either way on this note, Yamaha should ride the momentum of the success of Revstar and offer some alternative trims/electronics. There’s near unanimous consensus on the quality and value but probably the least consensus on the pickup and electronics. That would be cool if they switched it up a bit somehow to mimic some of the mods people have been doing. I mean, that’s how Strats went from 3-way to 5-way in the first place!

  • @garycartwright4860
    @garycartwright4860 Месяц назад +2

    I own one. It’s my workhorse, it’s punchy, versatile, and so well balanced and comfortable. Everyone asks about it when I play. Just makes a nice change from Gibson and fender

  • @st1969
    @st1969 Месяц назад +5

    I changed the focus switch to a coil split and also swapped out the 5 position switch for a 3 position one and it’s now one of my two main gigging guitars. Love it. And people always come up to me afterwards cause they think it’s cool looking. So with a couple of changes it’s been a big win for me.

    • @hemmingsguitarsandstuff
      @hemmingsguitarsandstuff Месяц назад

      My Revstar 502T I got in 2021 is one of the original line of Revstars which came with the 3 way switch and coil split as standard. I didn't know when I bought it that they would relaunch the series with new specs a few months later but I'm glad I have one of the originals. The new ones are great too!

  • @TJEvans98
    @TJEvans98 Месяц назад +12

    My revstar standard has withstood all other guitars I've owned....I occasionally look at my collection and think "OK, what can I afford to trade." The Revstar ALWAYS stays...it's the only guitar I own that I'll not get rid of. I'd be afraid that whatever I got to replace it wouldn't stack up.

  • @russellcameronthomas2116
    @russellcameronthomas2116 Месяц назад +2

    I have a Revstart Pro P90s in Sunset. About the electronics (tone nob, 5 way switch, "focus" switch), it *really* helps to dial in your amp to make best use of them. I like playing clean or edge of breakup, Dumble or Carol-Ann Tucana with or without drive (Zendrive or Klon), all in Fractal FM3. Specifically, set your tone knob to "middle" and volume to about 50%, then dial the clean amp to the bright side. With the Focus switch, it is often helpful to turn *down* the volume a little and you will find a whole new range of tones, not just "louder" or "more midrange". Positions 2 and 4 (the "in-between" blend positions) offer some very nice and expressive tonal spaces, and engaging the Focus switch can bring them closer to the 1, 3, and 5 positions, through still "in between".
    All these tonal choices and possibilities are magnified by the touch sensitivity of the guitar overall with P90s.
    In sum, to get the full potential out of this guitar, don't just turn up the tone and volume knobs to MAX, and then flip pickup selector. Instead, set your guitar controls in the middle range, then setup the amp to work with that. Then add *and* subtract both tone and volume (and "Focus") to open up the full tonal range.

    • @ChidOki
      @ChidOki Месяц назад +1

      There are SO many commenters out there who need to read your walkthrough!!! So well explained. These pickups are very versatile and make full use of the ranges of those knobs. People who just turn both knobs wide open out of habit will miss the real tones it’s capable of!

  • @bernie_smith
    @bernie_smith Месяц назад +1

    My main live guitar since 1989 was my USA Vintage '62 Re-issue Rosewood Fiesta Red Strat. Since receiving my Revstar Pro Crisp Gold P90 in November 2022, my Strat is no longer my main guitar. Love my new Revstar.

  • @aristocaster
    @aristocaster Месяц назад +7

    Ibanez Jem and RG series, it defined superstrat with Floyd and 24 frets and pickup selector that automatically makes strat 2 and 4 position possible with two Humbuckers. and single coil.

    • @theramatube
      @theramatube Месяц назад

      Just got a used JEM Jr less than two weeks ago and so far I've been enjoying it since, the neck just feels soooo good, better than my previous used Squier Strat Deluxe that was more expensive. So exciting to play until I broke the high E string. No surprise cause I already thought it's still in standard 009 string from the factory. So excited to get a new set of 010 and set up my first Floyd Rose style guitar. Especially, it's (the lowest) JEM with tree of life!

    • @joeltunnah
      @joeltunnah Месяц назад

      Ibanez JEM is 40 years old now. Hardly a recent design.

    • @aristocaster
      @aristocaster Месяц назад

      @@joeltunnah Hardly any classic guitar design is recent design, that is how they became classic.

    • @joeltunnah
      @joeltunnah Месяц назад

      @@aristocaster you missed the point of the video.

  • @cgrant86
    @cgrant86 Месяц назад +6

    I love my revstar standard with P90's! I got it in the black finish and changed the cream pickup covers to black, looks much better! I play it more than my Gibson.

    • @vpovince1001
      @vpovince1001 Месяц назад

      Any pictures!?

    • @cgrant86
      @cgrant86 Месяц назад +1

      @@vpovince1001 RUclips does not support sending images on here

    • @vpovince1001
      @vpovince1001 Месяц назад

      @@cgrant86 figured

  • @rockerbuck967
    @rockerbuck967 Месяц назад +5

    I'm a huge Yamaha supporter - I have 2 generations of THR amps, and an older Pacifica, and I love them all. The Revstar is on my bucket list for many reasons, the main one being I've never had guitar with P-90's in the many years I've been playing. I'd like it if Yamaha was the brand that made me say "Where have these been all my life!!" With prices being what they are these days, I have to wait until my local dealer gets one in used - and I'm sure it's only a matter of time.....

    • @brianthrom6858
      @brianthrom6858 Месяц назад

      With the stainless steel frets, I’d expect them to hold up well used. I’ve had mine for a while and I’ve been happy with it across the board

  • @orryfishburne5326
    @orryfishburne5326 Месяц назад +1

    I really hope more people get to try the Revstar Standard II. I have the p90 version in black (RSS02T) and its one of the best guitars i have ever owned. Incredible instrument and im not even considering its price. Its simply a gem, and i hope it brings others as much joy as it gives me.

  • @MrJingles021
    @MrJingles021 Месяц назад +2

    The Yamaha guitars have some great modern specs on guitars that don't seem offensive. The Revstar is on my list to get. They are budget-ish, with stainless steel frets, and P90s or Humbuckers....I want one

  • @renleblanc2993
    @renleblanc2993 Месяц назад +1

    My main guitar has always been a Musicman Silhouette Special, which now cost like $3000.00. I bought the p90 Revstar after playing it for 20 minutes in the store. For $1000 you get stainless steel frets,an amazing rosewood fretboard, and a chambered body - the value is ridiculous! I don't think you can find those specs under $4000 with other brands. The guitar sounds incredible and plays like a dream.

  • @ianbarnes1406
    @ianbarnes1406 Месяц назад +3

    The Yamaha SG2000 was a classic (LP beater) and the Revstars are just a modern iteration of them

    • @aristocaster
      @aristocaster Месяц назад

      But Yamaha SG2000 was neck through body, i know because i had one 😀

  • @caydespliff181
    @caydespliff181 Месяц назад +1

    I’m an sg guy, I have a couple ltd singlecut guitars too, and I have always had my eye on revstars. I feel they are classic at this point, every time I have picked one up I have really connected with it. one of these and a tele, and then I’m done buying guitars(if my wife is asking)

  • @adamwilcox6405
    @adamwilcox6405 Месяц назад +1

    I love my revstar standard, it's my workhorse and the one I reach for, despite have a few (ahem) higher tier guitars. I recently took it and my strat to a rehearsal, I used the strat for most of it but when I switched to the revstar I was really struck by how much more comfortable I found it. I've fitted a bigsby and now it's perfect.

  • @ianbarnes1406
    @ianbarnes1406 Месяц назад +1

    Much prefer the look and colours of the first versions.Bought a s/h RS502TFM in Japanese denim after looking for one online for ages - great looking guitar. Check out Robbie Calvo playing one

  • @myleskenney7258
    @myleskenney7258 Месяц назад +4

    JACK THAMMARAT (GUITAR IDOL!) 2009 -He plays REVSTARS" (&AND decent logoff Yamaha other guitars

    • @jaymax3201
      @jaymax3201 Месяц назад

      His playing and sound are amazing. Also Chris Buck and Kenji Suzuki.

  • @sigsfast
    @sigsfast Месяц назад

    I think they’re great. I’d love one. Agreed on the colors. Wish they’d have more traditional colors. Maple tops. Gold tops.

  • @tomnelson5815
    @tomnelson5815 Месяц назад

    Totally agree on this. It's better than I expected, across every aspect. The P90s are the equal of the Lollars in my LP Special, too.

  • @thejuggernaut5327
    @thejuggernaut5327 Месяц назад

    I love my Revstar. I have that same color in HH configuration. I feel like it has its own unique sound and plays easy.

  • @acemodean
    @acemodean Месяц назад +4

    John, get your hands on an Eastman Juliet p90. I think you will dig it.

  • @riffcodgerpetermcaleer8638
    @riffcodgerpetermcaleer8638 Месяц назад +1

    Completely disagree with your opinion of the focus switch. I love it. And i love the way that it takes away those nasty ice pick sounds. And you didnt use the bridge pick up at all which i thought puzzling as when used with the focus switch sounds amazing to my ear. Cheers, and keep up the good work.

  • @NicBurrows
    @NicBurrows Месяц назад

    Imma say yes. I had a few of the previous generation (all now sold) and they were great but the 2nd gen Revstars are just an amazing package. I have both the P90 version and the humbucker version. They sound great, they play great, the necks feel awesome and the frets are fantastic. I agree they could do better colours and maybe a bit more work with artists but the guitar itself is worthy of its praise but still highly underrated.

  • @sheldonkorpett1708
    @sheldonkorpett1708 Месяц назад +2

    Ordered a RSP02T in crisp gold. Waiting patiently

    • @murraycrawford2741
      @murraycrawford2741 Месяц назад +1

      I had the RSS02T in black and loved it. Brought it back for an RSP02T in CG and now, out of my 19 high end guitars, I have my Desert Island guitar (not kidding). You will not be disappointed!

    • @sheldonkorpett1708
      @sheldonkorpett1708 Месяц назад

      @@murraycrawford2741 thanks for sharing your experience. Can’t wait to get mine

    • @bernie_smith
      @bernie_smith Месяц назад +2

      Got my P90 Crisp Gold RSP02T in November 2022. I absolutely love it. It is now my main gigging electric.

    • @ChidOki
      @ChidOki Месяц назад +2

      I’ve got the Crisp Gold. You’ll love it. So beautiful in looks and sound

  • @HeathFoley
    @HeathFoley Месяц назад +1

    I have a first gen Revstar with the p90s and the "dry switch" which I find way more useable than the newer models with the focus switch. I do like the improvements on the second gen though such as the chambering and SS frets.

    • @charleshuguley9323
      @charleshuguley9323 Месяц назад

      I think the focus switch is a not so useful gimmick. It bakes in one sound that would better be left to personal choice with pedals. I'm not sold on the 2nd and 4th pickup positions, but these can just be ignored or rewired. There could be some more sophisticated color options, and it could be a little lighter. I like everything else about the Revstar.

  • @daviddalziel884
    @daviddalziel884 Месяц назад +1

    I’ve played the standard with both P90s and the humbucker version . For me the focus switch makes the humbuckers really muddy but works fine with P90s . I preferred the Revstar against the PRS DGT SE which is quite dark sounding and the finish is poor for a £900 guitar in my book .

  • @chrispygingerpie
    @chrispygingerpie Месяц назад

    I like the Revstars, first guitar I played that had a HB in the bridge and P90 in the neck. So much to the point I replicated in my PRS CU24.

  • @ksharpe10
    @ksharpe10 Месяц назад

    Lots of really Good Guitars out there today for sure. I have a tele strandberg, it is great light guitar, you can play it all day because of it's comfort.

  • @jonathanhermann
    @jonathanhermann Месяц назад

    I love the revstar ! Frist I had the old version with Humbucker but traded it for a RS502
    There are great things about the new one (stainless steel frets, chambering, fretboard inlays) but overall I like the smaller body and the wraparound bridge of the older ones, plus better finishes imo
    It is a great design and greatly build. So it just needs time and great players who represents this guitar

  • @RyRyTheBassGuy
    @RyRyTheBassGuy Месяц назад +1

    Any shape that has never gone out of production should be considered a classic. They don't make em if no ones buying them.

  • @KozmykJ
    @KozmykJ Месяц назад +5

    No mention of Gretschs as 'Classics' ?
    Really ?

    • @michaelharris2101
      @michaelharris2101 Месяц назад +2

      New video of Beato in Chicago Music Exchange where admits he's never owned a Gretsch, so make of that what you will. (That's not an issue of distaste, he's just never got around to buying one. Might influence his perception of what a classic guitar is though.)

  • @Arch_Stanton.
    @Arch_Stanton. Месяц назад

    Agreed. Hopefully, your opinions are being heard and noted at Yamaha

  • @vpovince1001
    @vpovince1001 Месяц назад

    I have wanted one for well over a year now, but I had a couple other guitars to buy first, but this is the next one on my radar

  • @boogie2266
    @boogie2266 Месяц назад +1

    I think it's very difficult for a guitar to become a "classic" these days because there are so many good guitars on the market which hasn't be like that 50 years ago for example.
    And guitarists are weird sometimes because we follow rules like "you have to own a Les Paul to be a real guitarist".
    I recently found out that this is not what makes me pick up the guitar and play...
    So last week I sold my Les Paul (a good guitar I didn't play often) and tomorrow I'm going to buy a Revstar with humbuckers as I already own a P90 version and I'm in love with it!

  • @chadb8093
    @chadb8093 Месяц назад +8

    It’ll be a classic in due time if Chris Buck keeps playing his

  • @BullFrog96
    @BullFrog96 Месяц назад

    I love the Revstar with P90s absolutely need to get one at some point

  • @kingcal53
    @kingcal53 Месяц назад +1

    If its good enough for Buck and Mancuso, then its good enough for me (and it is, I have a first gen 502)

  • @etherboy3540
    @etherboy3540 Месяц назад

    Editing to add: I really like how the Revstars look. I would absolutely buy one if they were a bit lighter.
    My current favorite guitar is a headless Kiesel Delos, with singlecoil pickups and fender scale length. I'm not sure I'd be brave enough to show up at a jam session with it, but I have a bad back and this thing weighs 6.25 lbs with a trem. It's awesome. I just ordered another one, a headless hardtail Zeus with humbuckers which I expect to be even lighter. If I were right-handed I'd just get a Strandberg Boden Essential and be done with it, but those are not available left-handed so Kiesel it is.

    • @jeffball6656
      @jeffball6656 Месяц назад

      I love my RevStar.
      It is a bit heavy. It it were lighter I’d likely play it more. (I’ve got a horrible back)
      I think that introducing some different finishes might help their appeal for some.

  • @mpesta
    @mpesta Месяц назад +2

    I have one but I’m having difficulty getting the action low enough for my taste. I need to take it to a luthier to see what he can do.

    • @jhholmes5252
      @jhholmes5252 Месяц назад +1

      I felt the same. Searched the internet and found a few other people who’ve mentioned that the nut is sometimes not cut as well as it should be. I filed the nut slots on mine, and it plays much better now.

    • @mpesta
      @mpesta Месяц назад

      @@jhholmes5252 thanks! I’ll take a look at that

  • @Deep_Jimpact
    @Deep_Jimpact Месяц назад +17

    Hey John, great video. Just a few counter points. 1) a classic is something we can only know in time. 2) if a truly generational performer uses a revstar, that could help cement it. 3) despite what you say, I don’t think women being given the right to vote is “the root of all evil”.

    • @devDarkest
      @devDarkest Месяц назад

      😂😂😂

    • @cbaten2
      @cbaten2 Месяц назад +2

      So, Chris Buck could potentially catapult this RS in Classic heaven (in gold of course)?
      Go Chris!
      And what about Jimmy Page:'s Danelectro 59DC(?)?

    • @TeleTonemonkey
      @TeleTonemonkey Месяц назад +1

      Proposing Coil split on a P90 guitar? 🤔

    • @cbaten2
      @cbaten2 Месяц назад +1

      ​@@TeleTonemonkey being served by D' Angelica Bedford model ... Noiseless p90 with coil split to regular p90

    • @brianmiller3287
      @brianmiller3287 Месяц назад +1

      P 90's are single coils. I don't think you can split one coil...​@@TeleTonemonkey

  • @andsoistopped
    @andsoistopped Месяц назад

    The wine red one with P90s works for me. Headstock is great.

  • @thisday77
    @thisday77 Месяц назад

    I tried the Revstar RSS20 and the sound of it was the best I ever played. But because of the only 42mm nut-width I chose to buy a used Revstar 502. The sound is also great, but the newer one sounded better to me (although the RSS20 had humbuckers and the 502 has P90s).
    And I love the shape of the Revstar even more than my Epiphone Les Paul wich I loved when I got it. So for me the Revstar just is a legendary guitar :)
    But I want to get one of the strandbergs one day and see how "ergonomic" they really are.

  • @fusionfan6883
    @fusionfan6883 Месяц назад

    I would argue the Super Strat is its own distinct and credible category. If you think about it they established themselves particularly in the 80s LA session scene with the likes of Anderson and Valley Arts etc.

  • @steved1099
    @steved1099 Месяц назад +1

    Great piece John, I have a 1st gen Revstar and theyre making strides in popularity. I think they play and sound great. They will become more popular.. Buck and Mancuso shining a light on them helps. I think Ibanez has to be in the 5 pro guitars.. styles of Vai, Satriani etc almost demand one. I think PRS are fantastic and could be in there (many pros use them) but have to overcome the disparaging “they’re for blues lawyers” crowd..Even got a DGT SE based on your reviews - great guitar

    • @cbaten2
      @cbaten2 Месяц назад +1

      DGT could become a classic or MC 394 (if PRS is finally seen as a serious contender),..

    • @steved1099
      @steved1099 Месяц назад +1

      ​@cbaten2 DGT is a Fantastic guitar. Detracters can poke fun but getting some serious players on board now. Mayer, Mcglaughlin, Ford, Tremonti, Santana, Grissom, Kennedy, McBride etc etc. Love fenders and gibsons (and revstar) but PRS offer me something different and modern.

  • @oliverjames7315
    @oliverjames7315 Месяц назад +1

    i know a good session guy and he says strats and LPs are the ONLY guitars you can turn up to most sessions with

    • @joeltunnah
      @joeltunnah Месяц назад

      Or what happens? Lol

    • @markmm1066
      @markmm1066 Месяц назад +1

      Maybe the first session. Once you earn your bones, you can show up with whatever works.

  • @joeltunnah
    @joeltunnah Месяц назад

    I'm surprised the Guild M75 never got more attention. It's basically a hollow Les Paul with P90s, still in production, and has a history dating back to the early 1950s.

  • @decibelzebub
    @decibelzebub Месяц назад

    They are fantastic guitars. I think the revstar could be the ulitimate workhorse guitar if they just had a few more options. I would like to see a hb brige p90 neck option (pacifica has it), 2x volume + 2x tone and the old "dry switch" aka high pass filter for coil split-ish tones instead of the cocked wah switch.
    Other than a little experimentation between the two generations, I think they have totally nailed it.

  • @grungebob
    @grungebob Месяц назад

    Months ago I bought the HH standard and although a great playing guitar it had this weird mid issue I couldn’t get rid of and the focus switch was useless. I had to return it.
    Last week I picked up the P90 standard and it played just as good but the sounds and focus switch were much more useful.
    It really came alive when I ditched the exlirs it came with and installed my trusty slinky’s. The top end missing before was there in spades. Got me thinking perhaps the elixrs were the problem with the HH model? Either way really like the standard P90. 10 useful sounds and a joy to play.

  • @ianmckenzie5303
    @ianmckenzie5303 Месяц назад

    I’ve been Jones’n for for a Revstar for last year after playing one at out local music store. It was the pro version which is definitely out my price range but from what I’ve seen there’s little between the Pro and the Standard models. Also I’ve heard of people taking out the two screws on the tailpiece nearest the bridge to get a trembar effect.

  • @mr.bluenotedoobop
    @mr.bluenotedoobop Месяц назад

    I really like Yamaha stuff, don’t love the colors, but the gold top one is 🙌🏼🙌🏼 I’m interested in the Strandberg stuff, you should get one on the channel,

  • @Andrew-Hood
    @Andrew-Hood Месяц назад

    I have all those guitars and my Revstar is my favourite

  • @tedpikul1
    @tedpikul1 Месяц назад

    I've been on the verge of buying one repeatedly (the humbucker model). I believe that Beato was implicitly talking about the recorded voice of each guitar type, haven't seen the video. Does the Revstar have a slightly different voicing than typical 2-humbucker (usually Les Paul) guitars? I've seen and heard reviews that suggest that the guitar's EQ is more evenly distributed, with each string being heard, than typical Les Paul guitars. Curious to hear if people have had this experience.

  • @bankjibbernow
    @bankjibbernow Месяц назад

    definitely underrated. mine sounds gr8

  • @arliestiles3852
    @arliestiles3852 Месяц назад

    Mine is already a classic. It's absolutely the best.

  • @emdblues
    @emdblues Месяц назад

    I don't know if you watched that Tim Pierce' video about Grammy's. Dean Parks played the Revstar the whole gig. That tell you a lot about these guitars

  • @VideoDetection
    @VideoDetection Месяц назад

    Yes indeed!

  • @georgedavarinos9923
    @georgedavarinos9923 Месяц назад

    I think Yamaha have hit the nail on the head with the revstars, and they have done it by offering a unique instrument without reinventing the wheel. I am much more in favor of the 1st generation though, more options and flavors. I own an rsp20cr and used to also own an rs502.

  • @TbonePlummer
    @TbonePlummer Месяц назад +1

    Already is!

  • @stanesposito2664
    @stanesposito2664 Месяц назад

    I think any guitar can be a "classic" if enough musicians used them and a grass roots momentum begins just like with anything. Of course you need a few heavyweights promoting them (i.e. Slash, Joe B). I tried one because it was at my favorite store and didn't care for the way it felt right off the bat so I didn't even plug it into an amp.

  • @goport
    @goport Месяц назад

    I bought a Revstar Standard RSS20L Swift Blue 2 years ago and after the honeymoon period I haven't played it much. It feels great but I find it a bit dark sounding to be honest. And the push pull thing makes it a little bit thicker sounding but I can't seem to brighten it up. Being a leftie we don't get the p90 option so I may have to buy some aftermarket ones to replace the humbuckers

  • @GetEspo
    @GetEspo Месяц назад

    A world war recently ended... blues, jazz & rock gaining global attention over radio & tv... a pending global cultural shift among the younger generation... and a relatively new instrument to stridently deliver the message. The next guitar that coincides with all that will be a classic.

  • @ckallaher
    @ckallaher Месяц назад

    Guitars have generally gotten so good across such a wide price range that you can find great players making great music using just about anything. To me, this means that no guitar will ever break through based simply on how it plays or sounds. For example, I love Josh Turner and his playing on the D’Angelico Bedford is dreamy. But it will never be a “classic.” Classic really refers, I think, to the shape and, possibly, pickup configuration (e.g., SS Tele = classic, HH Tele, probably not, unless it’s a Deluxe with wide range humbuckers). In that sense, it’s too late for there to be new classics because the shapes of the true classics (Strat, Tele, LP, 335 or other semi-hollow, and maybe SG) leave no room for something so distinctive that it stands in its own. The Revstar, for all of its goodness, is an SG-style guitar; two pickup, double cut. It’s just not distinctive enough to become its own category of classic. As you note, the Strandberg is the only one you mention that is distinctive enough to break through. The problem there, though, is that aesthetically speaking, the other classics have a certain appeal to a broad group while the Strandbergs are, well, distinctive anyway, but no one conjures the image of one of them if asked what an electric guitar looks like. The Strat is like a Jaguar E-Type - the embodiment of classic - while the Strandberg is like the Tesla Cyber Truck - distinctive, quirky, cool (to some), but unlikely to be classic. But a fun topic and beautiful playing, as always!

  • @Bluepillphil-d1w
    @Bluepillphil-d1w Месяц назад +1

    Not easy to make an original shape guitar that isn’t naff. The designers did well.

  • @onlyusernameleft2
    @onlyusernameleft2 Месяц назад +14

    My Strat said not to take Rick Beato seriously

  • @smartmammal9926
    @smartmammal9926 Месяц назад

    You seemed to address on the visual aspects, then sound, which makes it "classic"? Washburn, Kramer, Ibanez, Hamer? I am not sure I am clear about this whole discussion.

  • @chrispygingerpie
    @chrispygingerpie Месяц назад +7

    You could probably add PRS to that.

    • @jasondorsey7110
      @jasondorsey7110 Месяц назад

      The Beatles just called and said he left rickenbacker off the list

    • @chrispygingerpie
      @chrispygingerpie Месяц назад

      I wouldn’t add it to the list of turning up for a session, but it is definitely a classic guitar.

  • @Chiller11
    @Chiller11 Месяц назад

    I’ve got to give an additional classic spot to Gretsch, either 6120 or White Falcon if an additional spot exists. Revstar needs a decade or so and a couple of famous players before it could be considered a classic. I really want one but unfortunately my anonymity and lack of talent won’t help advance the Revstar toward classic status.

  • @tiagoramalhais5493
    @tiagoramalhais5493 Месяц назад +1

    It's a great original design in a world of boring Les Paul/SG look alikes.

    • @Bluepillphil-d1w
      @Bluepillphil-d1w Месяц назад

      Exactly. Not easy to make an original shape which is why most don’t bother they just copy.

  • @andrewchristie6483
    @andrewchristie6483 Месяц назад +1

    PRS surely?

  • @markosedlak2052
    @markosedlak2052 Месяц назад

    Fun fact, I lended a US Strat and MIC Revstar 620 (v1) to a blues guitar player for a festival. Strat will be a backup guitar for the gig.

  • @persiaguitar
    @persiaguitar Месяц назад

    For practice I use only this guitar as it has stainless steel fret

  • @johnfalzon
    @johnfalzon Месяц назад +1

    If you know, you know. I feel like the Revstar has a great cult following but still not hugely popular amongst guitarists. The standards are amazing guitars at any price point.

  • @peterhall4852
    @peterhall4852 Месяц назад

    Rickenbacker 12 string is a classic.

  • @drwilliamlarge
    @drwilliamlarge Месяц назад

    Juliana Hatfield plays one, so of course it is a classic.

  • @timcat8382
    @timcat8382 Месяц назад

    Yamaha Revstar is beautiful but I can't get used to the neck as it's a bit kof a handful, for my taste. A 50's style Les Paul has a more comfortable neck. Is anyone else getting tired of Beato ranting. I'm liking him less lately, anwyay.

  • @vincentl.9469
    @vincentl.9469 Месяц назад

    Matteo Mancuso ☀

  • @davidyelland908
    @davidyelland908 Месяц назад

    Directly proportional to Chris Buck’s success

  • @Kevin-the-Just
    @Kevin-the-Just Месяц назад

    I actually thought the transformer output added something really usable.

  • @picksalot1
    @picksalot1 Месяц назад

    There is often a cultural element that contributes to whether or not something might be eventually considered a Classic, so I'm guessing no on the Revstar, though it is a very nice guitar. Whereas Boss Pedals have many Classic Models, having been early in the game and major innovators.

  • @Newnodrogbob
    @Newnodrogbob Месяц назад +3

    The revstars are awesome. Beatto’s list of 5 “serious” guitars has some serious “get off my lawn” Boomer energy.
    The trouble is that unless you start talking about the BC rich stuff, or crazy shapes, it’s all close enough to something else that we just lump it in as “like that.”
    Double cutaway with long horns? Like a strat. Double cut with short horns? It’s like an LP jr. (or an SG, but that is a less likely comparison. Single cuts are like Les Pauls, unless they’re really square, in which case they’re like a telecaster. Everything hollow or semi hollow is enough like an ES 335 or whatever that other one is that Elvis had that that’s where it gets lumped in.

  • @calebshelton9240
    @calebshelton9240 Месяц назад +1

    I don't think anyone sees Joe Satriani or Steve Vai with their Ibanez guitars and think "is this guy a pro?". EVH didn't use a standard strat. I love Beato, but some of his takes are not based on anything other than his own personal feelings.

    • @larryh.3173
      @larryh.3173 Месяц назад +1

      Agree with most of this, and I definitely like Beato, too… but “takes” means _opinions_ (not stated specs, etc..) so that makes them valid. After all, isn’t that why we watch these gear vids?
      The JNC video here is no different: he offers his opinions, too. Maybe it’s just that Beato is so, um… _emphatic_ about his. lol.
      IMO. Peace. 🙂

  • @ryanmccabe7821
    @ryanmccabe7821 Месяц назад

    Jimmy Chamberlin Smashing Pumpkins uses them in his recent gigs

    • @martiboucat
      @martiboucat Месяц назад +1

      Jimmy Chamberlin plays drums

  • @nikolaki
    @nikolaki Месяц назад

    As long as they don't release the P90 version as a a lefty, I am safe.

  • @scottmoreau5630
    @scottmoreau5630 Месяц назад

    The one thing I find odd is that a number of RUclips channels rave about this guitar but almost none of them have the professional model. It’s as if they are even hesitant to buy into a Yamaha.

    • @KeithMilner
      @KeithMilner Месяц назад +3

      I think it's because the Standard is so good. Several channels have stated that they don't see much difference in quality between the Standard and the Professional.

    • @scottmoreau5630
      @scottmoreau5630 Месяц назад +1

      @@KeithMilner That does make sense. I have yet to try a revstar but hope to soon. Maybe I will come to the same conclusion!

  • @sebastianb.2385
    @sebastianb.2385 Месяц назад

    Maybe the Novo stuff?

  • @TatetMusic
    @TatetMusic Месяц назад

    Torn between Revstar and PRS SE custom 24. Help guys, please! 🙏

    • @Bluepillphil-d1w
      @Bluepillphil-d1w Месяц назад +1

      Get the made in Japan Revstar. Much better design aesthetic than the PRS. And they really are a very nice guitar in your hands.

    • @ChidOki
      @ChidOki Месяц назад

      I mean it depends on what you’re looking for…without context how can anyone really help you? But I will say you will get amazing quality and value on the Revstar

  • @bellamybracken
    @bellamybracken Месяц назад

    Music Man St Vincent.

  • @basiltiffani8850
    @basiltiffani8850 Месяц назад +1

    Who is asking these questions?

  • @chrispygingerpie
    @chrispygingerpie Месяц назад

    Just not well known enough

  • @BeefNEggs057
    @BeefNEggs057 Месяц назад

    The Yamaha acoustics sound better than anything in their price range. Revstar isn’t my sound but you can bet it’s made well and the setup/fretwork is better than fender/Gibson. Chris Buck really lost his sound when he stopped using strats. Many would argue he found it. I’m not in that camp and honestly lost interest when he switched to those other guitars. I don’t love guitar. I love strats and teles to some extent.

  • @mikedamisch
    @mikedamisch Месяц назад

    Strandberg Boden is the only guitar that has come out in a long time that will become a classic. It has it all, features that define an era of progressive music, guitar heros playing them and a very distinctive look that is being emulated but not matched.
    With that said I love my Revstars.

  • @Guitarman007
    @Guitarman007 Месяц назад

    Its a phenomenal guitar. Just needed a pickup swap.

  • @douglasbaxter71
    @douglasbaxter71 Месяц назад +1

    Another video referencing Rick "the gatekeeper" Beato. yay.

  • @jolyonwright3326
    @jolyonwright3326 Месяц назад

    There are five acceptable types of guitar to play? really? I am kinda old… my favourite guitar is a les paul… I have had it for a million years… they were big in the sixties… but… surely… surely he means there are five acceptable types of boomer guitar for us older folk right? surely younger guys don't have to stick to that guy's rules or did I miss something?

  • @DrTortoiselle
    @DrTortoiselle Месяц назад +6

    Beato? The old guy that yells at the sky because pop music doesn’t use enough half dimished chords nowadays while swearing music was better back in his days? I’ve also heard he doesn’t approve how the youths thrust their hips in provocative ways while dancing.

    • @murraycrawford2741
      @murraycrawford2741 Месяц назад

      I love Rick. Oh, wait, I think I am older then him? Yes, definitely older...

    • @fossilmatic
      @fossilmatic Месяц назад +2

      Dig a little deeper and I’ll think you’ll find he is bemoaning the conformity of modern pop music. Dig even deeper and compare the younger generations with Boomers and Gen X and you’ll find you’re living in some of the most conservative times in a hundred and twenty odd years… oh, that’s right, history isn’t a thing anymore, is it?😅

    • @michael1
      @michael1 Месяц назад +2

      @@fossilmatic Nah, he's just a boomer saying "Music was better in my day" an old tired cliche that many teenagers have experienced from their parents when trying to enjoy music. The fact that this particular boomer is doing so in the context of a youtube channel where he deludes himself and an audience that he understands music and has worthwhile information to share on the topic is especially tragic. In what is perhaps quite ironic Beato shows why the most popular music often appears lacking is true of everything else youtube channels too, which explains why he has a popular youtube channel in spite of it not being very good. He answers his own question by his own example - how can anyone make money from a crap book when you can get the same information, and more for free online? Bingo, Beato discovers this by doing - that popularity is a thing in its own right.
      The tragic thing is it's clear Beato was a wannabee and largely failed to make any impact in the music industry. You can sense that even with a popular youtube channel he'd prefer to have been one of the artists or musicians he's interviewing rather than the interviewer. He's not happy. He's like Andy Millman in Ricky Gervais extras, he's obtained a bit of popularity but not in the terms he fantasised about - and no one takes him seriously as an artist as he wishes they would have. In his own terms he's a failure and that is no less revealed in his bitter, grumpy disdain at other's success in something, especially when he clearly thinks he is a better musician than they are. Well boo fucking hoo Beato. Here's the world's smallest violin playing in Dm, the saddest of all the keys.
      For all his delusion that he understands music he doesn't actually understand anything about popular music. It didn't click that knowing a chord name isn't why Sting or Paul McCartney had such long and successful careers in popular music. His interview with Sting is a good lesson in why Beato doesn't have any knowledge. He tries to impress Sting by talking music theory and Sting just looks blankly and says "That's not the creative process I use" - similarly you can watch Get Back and see the Beatles creative process and, in particular one section with Paul writing a song and it's clear that it's not about music theory at all.
      But, ultimately it's the "popular" in "popular music" that is the key to success. You don't need music you need popularity. Music is cheap, easy to create, there's no shortage of people who can create it. If you advertise in a show for would be artists the queue goes around the block. Artists are like fast food operatives, there's loads of them and it's really worth about minimum wage. However rather than paying 100000 artists minimum wage what we do is have a few hundred or thousand artists who we make popular and we give them more money than they could have ever hoped for working in a call centre. For some of them it goes to their head and they get uppity and whine that they are the "artist" and they were ripped off and deserved more of the money - but remember that queue around the block? Most of them ended up working 40 hours a week in a supermarket - we could easily have made one of them the popular artist instead. Artists are lucky to get paid at all. And the ones who think "Nah I'm really really skilled at guitar, there's only a few of me" - that's not really true there's no shortage of Classically trained concert pianists or virtuoso guitarists - and here's the thing, these are not popular, they're worth even less than being an average guitar player. If guthrie govan is unhappy at how much spotify pay him then he should play popular music - and any audience members saying "Boo hoo, no we're fans of the artist and don't like record companies" - well you guys stopped paying for music. If you think Guthrie is so great then give him some money but no, instead your rationalised that the money went to big bad execs and justified not paying for it. Music is worthless - it's worth nothing. You can get it for free and millions of people can create it cheaply.
      It's literally worth nothing. Popularity on the other hand is incredibly difficult to obtain and keep hold of, especially in the right context to be successful with it. And that is largely the key to success in popular music or anything else in the arts. The people like Beato or David Bennett (who is largely saner than Beato and teaching music without a big ego) who are forever going on about what modes the beatles used or what chord is at the start of the beatles song seem to have missed that the Beatles were mostly a boy band popular with a lot of screaming girls. That's what Beatlemania was. None of these girls were wetting their panties and screaming because they thought Paul had used modal interchange - and that's really the reason that McCartney et al are rich and famous. No different from the spice girls or taylor swift or ed sheeran.
      Similarly Led Zepp were filling stadiums mostly down to the efforts of Peter Grant in creating popularity.
      Analyzing the music isn't going to tell you anything about success - and it's certainly not going to give you any objective sense that the music was better in the past compared with today. Because that is, frankly absurd and doesn't actually hold any weight even if music were some kind of endeavour like sprinting or road cycling where the most successful was the one who we measured as being the best. Because, you know, today's musicians are significantly better than in the past. Especially in rock. To be popular in rock in Beatos day they were often drug-addled and playing so sloppily, collapsing on stage etc. The live performances are abysmal in many cases (in many others they just redubbed everything on the live album) yet legions of deluded fans and youtubers like to waffle on about autotune and 'fake' playing as though everyone in the past could play their instruments and sing flawlessly. Reality couldn't be further from the truth.

    • @Bluepillphil-d1w
      @Bluepillphil-d1w Месяц назад

      @@michael1anything else ? lol. Though I do agree, I can’t stand Beato. And I’m glad someone agrees with me. He had one hit country song as producer, which is a woeful song. He’s always saying what is wrong with music, to which my answer is, people like you Rick.

  • @njapostol
    @njapostol Месяц назад

    I think I'm the only person who doesn't like them. I sold it last month. It's far too heavy, sounds thin and had the worst fret job I've ever seen. It was a standard P90.

  • @illgottengains1314
    @illgottengains1314 Месяц назад

    I think those knobs need to be framed, like a tele. They look a bit homemade to me

  • @mikeclarke4002
    @mikeclarke4002 Месяц назад

    You pitch up for a gig and are only "taken seriously" when you are playing a `classic guitar´. Pretty sad idea really, when you playing, your sound, your vibe should be the only thing. True most of the time, though.