i feel like a common theme for these deltas is that they have powerful engines to compensate for the energy retention which makes most of them have similar attributes regardless of nation
@@thatoneguy1741 it depends on the aircraft tho. Mirage 2000 are good. It's one of most lightweight aircraft in top tier, it's the opposite of J37D which is very heavy.
@@goldenboy5693 bro how is he supposed to know that you aren't joking? There are people out there that genuinely think that and you could have been one. Magic2s were great before the drag patch and it's effective range was cut by 1km
@@goldenboy5693 “gaijin is too gay to add it” sounds like crying to me. I just hate people that are so stupid that can’t understand why it’s not in game
@@multimemer5317 why they keep adding the most powerfull missiles to USA and Russia? Why theses players always are like "Yes we always has the best stuff, your country just had to build good tech if you want some". Did USA needed F-14B this update, with better missile, while already have F-16 and F-14 ? Were they crappy planes? And when others have the opportunity to have good stuff, to lead the meta for once, those same players who always have the meta planes "boooh, noooo, that wouldn't be fair.. !" I still dream that MICAs would be there, even nerfed to be meta without breaking the game, at least we'd no longer have the unrealistic limit of 4 missiles on the -5F. You don't see 10 mirage per game, but lot of F16/F-14/Mig-29. Giving more interest to other plane would be nice. But then, we're used to players from the mains nations who like everything to revolve around their navels... When they're the meta, and always have the best vehicles, everything's fine. Offer them the idea that lesser-played nations are getting more powerful things and they panic.
The 5F was also the variant that was first fitted with MICA, so know that when active guided missiles come for everyone you won’t have to grind a new jet.
I've got basically all top tier jets at this point but I still find myself coming back to the Mirage 2000 just because I like it so much idk why I just do
I think they should create multiple Spawnpoints on the map just like in tanks that way it spreads the players out and hopefully doesn’t turn into a close dogfight with everyone like every game now
Well i always thought it was very stupid they didnt add the other 6 or so airfields from the big EC maps - for sure everyone taking off from 1 place makes the maps play worse than in sim where you have at bare minimum 3 or so airfields to choose from.
@@NotAnWildPig it’s not that simple, I can’t count how many times I’ve not been able to flare missiles for absolutely no reason at all even with burner off so given he had burner on, if you remember pre nerf 9L flare resistance at all, he should not have been able to flare that.
@@dilldoe1991 it has something to do with the path the magic takes. Magics pathing is right for the butt, 9L loves to “flank” the engine and not to straight for it therefore it’s FOV is away from flares. Magic looks straight into flares
Now I think Mirage 2000-5F might suffer in Air RB and Air SB until dev consider medium-range fox 3 MICA EM after Q2 this year but Mirage 2000-5F good close air support
It lacks a lot of little gadgets that could make it even better and that have been postponed to the dev, so we'll just have to wait and see: HMS, more CM (naturally more than the 2000C) etc.. Not to mention the fact that the reason this -5F exists IRL is to use 6 MICAs missiles as an air superiority jet. This BR is sad for air RB with the same loadout (not even possible IRL, -5F could not use 530D or these advanced ground ordonance, this is a mixup with Mirage 2000-9) than the 2000C.
the engine wouldn't be as powerful yes on early variants, but the Cheetah is considerably lighter than the Kfirs and with the D variant it could potentially be faster, it also comes with a Helmet mounted sight, the R-darter ARH missile and let's not forget the crazy A-darter which I highly doubt would ever be added lol (100G turn capability IR missile)
Agreed there is just a level of crispness to the 2k its also my fav even tho its not meta and doesn't have the best kit, i would fly nothing else if it had a loadout for 6 magics or even 4
@@_Joob yeah, but you definitely show a knowledge and though process that a lot of people don't show in this game, a lot of people just kind of turn and hope to get an enemy in front of their guns, even if their plane doesn't favor it.
@@exoticbreadstick8661o joke I highly recommend people look into some basic fighter maneuvers you can find text books on em or even videos I also found listening to real fighter pilots describe their own dog fights to be helpful of course don’t expect to just watch a video and know what to do you gotta practice also do some light research on energy retention so many people will understand maneuvers but then just kill themselves by loosing all their energy don’t fly straight but don’t desperately flail around be patient in a dog fight it may be a 30 second fight but do not rush those 30 seconds If that makes any sense and I hope this helps at least some new players or even veteran trying out jets for the first time
The engine is horrid though. Besides, the P51C at 3.7 does more consistent damage with the tracer belts (M20 rounds, which imo do the most damage in the game right now) and has a good engine
@@crez3463 i believe a 4 Magic 2 would pair better with the External Gun Pod. Tbh Magic 2 is one of most flare resistance missile if you launch it under 1,5km and on Rear Aspect. Hell, besides Python 3, I would prefer Magic 2 over AIM-9L despite Magic 2 is very short in range.
@@thatoneguy1741 not for me I guess, 85% of my Magic 2 shot are always successful, the most successful missile I ever launched in my playthrough. While the 530D sometimes miss-tracking or worse, exploding before reaching the target, the only thing better in 530D is the G Overload which is 30 G.
I flush out most Top Teir nations, Germany, Russia, USA, Israel, Japan, Italy. Of all nations, the Israeli Kfir Canard and the Shahak are unironically my most played jets recently. Especially the Kfir. F4 phantom engine on a delta platform is really fun. Not a lot of missiles but it’s more fun to have fun then to do good these days.
Cum rockets 😫 Also I've been wanting to say I absolutely love the ends of your videos. Can you make more cinematic clips to put at the end? Thanks your the only wt content creator I enjoy
0:23 bro asks in chat if the f14b is any good, bro if you are this br, you have to know that the A is good, so why do you ask if the improved version is good? smh
Love how radar missile always go for the ground. Who needs strategy and skill when you can do the 1 same thing over and over and win since gainin wont fix their shit
It doesn't have any better missile, because if it had its actual loadout of 6 MICA missiles it would actually take a massive shit on every other jet ingame. It can take anywhere between 6 fox 2 MICA's and 2 fox 2 and 4 fox 3 MICA's, which are 50G , 60 to 80km range, datalinked missiles with over the shoulder capability...
Don't forget thrust vectoring, not just 50G, but 50G AND thrust vectoring. Both on the IR and EM variants. It can hinder their range but man their close range performance is actually nutty.
I mean, if you find that games are ending too quickly because its a total stomp and as such cant get good content.... maybe dont play top tier all the time? A lot of people still find Air RB content in early jhets and WWII era aircraft very enjoyable to watch. It seems that a lot of CCs seem to think that the only enjoyable content you can make comes from top tier jets, and thats just not true.
i have the f1c and f1ct but i can assume it's the same thing: -you'll always be in 12.0 -magics2 are easily flaired -the 530f / radar can be chaffed very easily (they only have 20g) -cannons are very good -he has a lot of flair -you can bomb, but you can't destroy 2 bases -dogfighting is average, you can beat su25s and f14s with a bit of luck/ you get destroyed against mig21s and f5s. -it has good boosters (488% research points without premium)
i feel like a common theme for these deltas is that they have powerful engines to compensate for the energy retention which makes most of them have similar attributes regardless of nation
Sadly the meta does not like delta aircraft lol
his 'poor' energy retention is the best when it come to dogfight this plane outrun any plane
@@thatoneguy1741 it depends on the aircraft tho. Mirage 2000 are good. It's one of most lightweight aircraft in top tier, it's the opposite of J37D which is very heavy.
the french manufacturer of doritos really need to upgrade the missiles. not enough flavours of launchable combustion.
@@goldenboy5693why would they add a 50g missile that would ruin the game? Only French players would play air realistic
@@goldenboy5693I could say the same thing: why does the f-16 not have the AIM-120 which is better than the sparrow?
@@goldenboy5693 bro how is he supposed to know that you aren't joking? There are people out there that genuinely think that and you could have been one. Magic2s were great before the drag patch and it's effective range was cut by 1km
@@goldenboy5693 “gaijin is too gay to add it” sounds like crying to me. I just hate people that are so stupid that can’t understand why it’s not in game
@@multimemer5317 why they keep adding the most powerfull missiles to USA and Russia? Why theses players always are like "Yes we always has the best stuff, your country just had to build good tech if you want some". Did USA needed F-14B this update, with better missile, while already have F-16 and F-14 ? Were they crappy planes?
And when others have the opportunity to have good stuff, to lead the meta for once, those same players who always have the meta planes "boooh, noooo, that wouldn't be fair.. !"
I still dream that MICAs would be there, even nerfed to be meta without breaking the game, at least we'd no longer have the unrealistic limit of 4 missiles on the -5F.
You don't see 10 mirage per game, but lot of F16/F-14/Mig-29. Giving more interest to other plane would be nice.
But then, we're used to players from the mains nations who like everything to revolve around their navels... When they're the meta, and always have the best vehicles, everything's fine. Offer them the idea that lesser-played nations are getting more powerful things and they panic.
The 2 seater Mirage 2000 gotta be the most beautiful jet ever... sadly I suck at missile tiers so I'm never gonna fly it :(
yea but ur literally a god at dogfighting so its ok :P
Fly it in ground RB ;) It's where its made for.
fr, 2 seater cockpit>single seater
The 5F was also the variant that was first fitted with MICA, so know that when active guided missiles come for everyone you won’t have to grind a new jet.
This thing will be borderline OP when the MICA's come. So long as they don't add them after we already have like the R-74M and shit like the 120D lmao
I've got basically all top tier jets at this point but I still find myself coming back to the Mirage 2000 just because I like it so much idk why I just do
I wish I could get to top tier jets
2:55 Joob can’t handle pressure!!!!
I think they should create multiple Spawnpoints on the map just like in tanks that way it spreads the players out and hopefully doesn’t turn into a close dogfight with everyone like every game now
Well i always thought it was very stupid they didnt add the other 6 or so airfields from the big EC maps - for sure everyone taking off from 1 place makes the maps play worse than in sim where you have at bare minimum 3 or so airfields to choose from.
4:50 considering he flared that on full burner I think it’s safe to say the Magic 2 doesn’t have pre-nerf 9L flare resistance.
He turned inside of the missile which turned it perpendicular to the afterburner so easy to flare.
@@NotAnWildPig it’s not that simple, I can’t count how many times I’ve not been able to flare missiles for absolutely no reason at all even with burner off so given he had burner on, if you remember pre nerf 9L flare resistance at all, he should not have been able to flare that.
@@dilldoe1991 it has something to do with the path the magic takes. Magics pathing is right for the butt, 9L loves to “flank” the engine and not to straight for it therefore it’s FOV is away from flares. Magic looks straight into flares
Lets go 20 min Joob video on my favorite plane. Great content man.
I just can't get over the fact that this man has the best outro in the world.
I love the mirage 2000 so much that I accidentally looped this video
the phrase "we ball" was only used once in this video :( please use it more often its really entertaining
Now I think Mirage 2000-5F might suffer in Air RB and Air SB until dev consider medium-range fox 3 MICA EM after Q2 this year but Mirage 2000-5F good close air support
Same situation for the J8 too
this is one speedy boi.
Our lord and savior, the french triangle. Embrace him for he is a dorito. 4:20 Joob
cringe
It lacks a lot of little gadgets that could make it even better and that have been postponed to the dev, so we'll just have to wait and see:
HMS, more CM (naturally more than the 2000C) etc..
Not to mention the fact that the reason this -5F exists IRL is to use 6 MICAs missiles as an air superiority jet. This BR is sad for air RB with the same loadout (not even possible IRL, -5F could not use 530D or these advanced ground ordonance, this is a mixup with Mirage 2000-9) than the 2000C.
really Hope one Day France Gets their mica since Israël Got their python 3 cus the magic are fine but they are so easy to flare nowadays
lowk adicted to this channel
Migrane 2000
I can't wait for when they add the Atlas Cheetah for South Africa, beautiful and effective upgrade to a Mirage
Kfir airframe but retains the Atar 9K-50 which isn't as good as the M2K engine or the J-79-GE-17
the engine wouldn't be as powerful yes on early variants, but the Cheetah is considerably lighter than the Kfirs and with the D variant it could potentially be faster, it also comes with a Helmet mounted sight, the R-darter ARH missile and let's not forget the crazy A-darter which I highly doubt would ever be added lol (100G turn capability IR missile)
Agreed there is just a level of crispness to the 2k its also my fav even tho its not meta and doesn't have the best kit, i would fly nothing else if it had a loadout for 6 magics or even 4
You can have 4x Magic 2s
Top tier is so tedious now. I haven't had a merge dogfight in ages
INSANE OUTRO SUCH A W
Triangle
video 5 of requesting the funny goober man to play the I-153, any variant is fine but the P would be nice
I wish I could play some matches with you to get your tactic. It seems to be working so perfectly... I'd really, really love to learn it
I don’t really have tactics I kind of just send it and hope for the best lollll
@@_Joob yeah, but you definitely show a knowledge and though process that a lot of people don't show in this game, a lot of people just kind of turn and hope to get an enemy in front of their guns, even if their plane doesn't favor it.
@@exoticbreadstick8661o joke I highly recommend people look into some basic fighter maneuvers you can find text books on em or even videos I also found listening to real fighter pilots describe their own dog fights to be helpful of course don’t expect to just watch a video and know what to do you gotta practice also do some light research on energy retention so many people will understand maneuvers but then just kill themselves by loosing all their energy don’t fly straight but don’t desperately flail around be patient in a dog fight it may be a 30 second fight but do not rush those 30 seconds
If that makes any sense and I hope this helps at least some new players or even veteran trying out jets for the first time
"He's a flare user" ? you mean he's not stock XD
It recent got yet another drag reduction buff so now it can even super-cruise Mach 1.15 at 8000m
yak 3p is a best at 5.0 w stealth belts ur gonna love it
You should try the F-105D
You should try the 3.3 American p-51. With universal belts the Hispanos are amazing.
The engine is horrid though. Besides, the P51C at 3.7 does more consistent damage with the tracer belts (M20 rounds, which imo do the most damage in the game right now) and has a good engine
My dog told me to “get the f*ck up and feed me” this morning. It was crazy.
Fear the french dorito
I really wish you could have Magic 2's on the 530D pylons.
Why? 530Ds are really good, especially with the M2Ks radar. Magic 2s get flared instantly
530Ds are radar integrated so the stronger the radar the better they track, on the 5F they almost cant be notched or avoided
@@crez3463 i believe a 4 Magic 2 would pair better with the External Gun Pod. Tbh Magic 2 is one of most flare resistance missile if you launch it under 1,5km and on Rear Aspect. Hell, besides Python 3, I would prefer Magic 2 over AIM-9L despite Magic 2 is very short in range.
@@muhamadafrifauzi5695I’d rather have extra 530s, people still gonna trash your magics anyway
@@thatoneguy1741 not for me I guess, 85% of my Magic 2 shot are always successful, the most successful missile I ever launched in my playthrough. While the 530D sometimes miss-tracking or worse, exploding before reaching the target, the only thing better in 530D is the G Overload which is 30 G.
Jezus this thing is fast.
nah, the pinical of delta wings is the Mirage 4000
I flush out most Top Teir nations, Germany, Russia, USA, Israel, Japan, Italy. Of all nations, the Israeli Kfir Canard and the Shahak are unironically my most played jets recently. Especially the Kfir. F4 phantom engine on a delta platform is really fun. Not a lot of missiles but it’s more fun to have fun then to do good these days.
Cum rockets 😫
Also I've been wanting to say I absolutely love the ends of your videos. Can you make more cinematic clips to put at the end?
Thanks your the only wt content creator I enjoy
3:30 so it’s slightly faster than a Mig23 MLD or MLA/ML bc that rips at 1470ias on the deck.
Mirage will rip at 1512km on the deck.
@@sfae17 nice ty
Sadly for me my pc broke as soon as the update cam out so now I can’t play :(
D O R I T O
Could you do the J7W next please?
Joob’s voice can narrate a porno fr fr
dorito supremacy.
regular PD mode helped it so much tho
F4 rocks at 10.7 now go play it guys
2:25 did you know that you can change the dimension of the lock ? you can have the little square (default) a bigger square, and even a rectangle
How ?
How do you have that good aim? teach me your ways
the 530d goes 5.0m the closest to the r27er
Mirage=French=Gajin Hate
gajin = based then
some of those guns sound like someone blowing their nose
Asking for Spitfires, day 26
530D's arent just big rockets. Those are radar-guided baguettes.
Still don't see any real reason to fly this variant in air RB instead of the C, until they give the 5f MICAs that is. Really love the Mirage 2K though
It’s radar is less notchable
Will you ever do a face reveal?
The RDY-2 seems to give zero fucks about your attempts to notch. Makes me quite happy. If only it had the HMD it's messing.
wait so is the radar better than the mirage 2kc? or is the 5f have a stronger radar
Why is there a D.500 in his lineup? 😂
Bc it's air RB. It doesn't matter.
@@evangalinsky2499 i know, but it just looked funny
french triangle
Magic 2s have a effectrive range of 1.5-1,7 km in rear apsect when both are above mach 1, i wouldnt fire above this range
0:23 bro asks in chat if the f14b is any good, bro if you are this br, you have to know that the A is good, so why do you ask if the improved version is good? smh
Bjoob. (j is silent)
Love how radar missile always go for the ground. Who needs strategy and skill when you can do the 1 same thing over and over and win since gainin wont fix their shit
It doesn't have any better missile, because if it had its actual loadout of 6 MICA missiles it would actually take a massive shit on every other jet ingame.
It can take anywhere between 6 fox 2 MICA's and 2 fox 2 and 4 fox 3 MICA's, which are 50G , 60 to 80km range, datalinked missiles with over the shoulder capability...
Don't forget thrust vectoring, not just 50G, but 50G AND thrust vectoring. Both on the IR and EM variants. It can hinder their range but man their close range performance is actually nutty.
i HATE 16v16, its impossible to get a 1v1 fight going, because 5 of your teammates just come running like rabid dogs
The rip speed is 1512 km/h
FISH
Dude WTF are those graphic settings stop playing on your toaster man Holy christ!
I mean, if you find that games are ending too quickly because its a total stomp and as such cant get good content.... maybe dont play top tier all the time? A lot of people still find Air RB content in early jhets and WWII era aircraft very enjoyable to watch. It seems that a lot of CCs seem to think that the only enjoyable content you can make comes from top tier jets, and thats just not true.
I've found the lead indicator to be buggy AF, it will show one spot then change wildly coz......................... fuck me and my F-16 I guess
I like the 16v16 at mid tier but top tier is too much
also the level 12's and their fucking F-4S's are a waste of space
Is the F1C 200 worth for the mirage grind? Have my eyes set on it if it goes on this next sale
i have the f1c and f1ct but i can assume it's the same thing:
-you'll always be in 12.0
-magics2 are easily flaired
-the 530f / radar can be chaffed very easily (they only have 20g)
-cannons are very good
-he has a lot of flair
-you can bomb, but you can't destroy 2 bases
-dogfighting is average, you can beat su25s and f14s with a bit of luck/ you get destroyed against mig21s and f5s.
-it has good boosters (488% research points without premium)
First comment
Cringe
Don't pin his comment
second comment, pin my first comment
Cringe even more
I hate ec maps so much
Delta wing cringe
Israeli Triangle>French Triangle 😤