084 - Mirage 2000
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- Опубликовано: 12 июн 2020
- When you think of 4th generation fighters designed in the late 70’s, which aircraft come to mind? Likely the F-15 Eagle and F-16 Fighting Falcon for starters, perhaps the F/A-18 Hornet, and for Eastern designs-probably the MiG-29 Fulcrum. But don’t forget the many great 4th gen fighters designed in Europe, many still operational today, such as the Dassault Mirage 2000.
On this episode, Mathieu “Matéo” Carbon-formerly a French Air Force fighter pilot and now host of the 9Gs podcast-joins us from Hong Kong to discuss the usual ‘aircraft series’ topics on the Mirage 2000 and helps answer listener questions including the lowest altitude he ever flew (hint: it was below sea level!).
Be sure to sign up for a chance to win one of three Mirage 2000C DCS modules by Razbam Simulations, together with the Red Flag campaign built by our very own team member, ‘Baltic Dragon.’ Entry is free.
kingsumo.com/g/szxypx/mirage-...
Episode announcements by Clint Bell / music by Jaime Lopez / artwork by Janek Krause. This episode was produced by our friends at The Muscle Car Place Podcast Network. 
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TABLE OF CONTENTS
03:07 - Guest introduction
07:07 - Versatility of Mirage 2000 variants
08:06 - What was the plane designed to do in the first place?
08:39 - What does it do well?
09:29 - Comparison to the American 4 gen fighter jets
11:47 - The variants
18:04 - Why does it look the way it does?
18:40 - Advantages of the delta wing
19:33 - Fly by wire implementation
21:13 - What it's like to fly Mirage 2000?
21:33 - The need to keep precize angle of attack during landings
23:03 - Energy bleed with delta wing
23:53 - The specific way to regain speed
26:13 - Maximun Gs
27:01 - The fastest and the highest the guest flew
27:35 - Particular behaviour of the aircraft near maximum speed
28:47 - What armament does it carry?
35:27 - Strengths & weaknesses
35:33 - Nose authority
36:04 - Fuel reserves
37:12 - What can be improved
39:00 - In which movies could we see Mirage 2000
41:10 - A story from mission in Jibuti
Listeners' Questions
44:10 - What was the lowest you have flown?
46:09 - How does Mirage 2000 behave when it's heavily loaded?
47:33 - Why two engines would have been good for Mirage 2000
48:49 - How Israely Kfir was derived from Mirages
50:31 - What aircraft would you like to fly?
53:00 - What country surprized you by their aircraft and pilots ability?
Wrap Up
56:16 - Future plans
57:25 - Story behind the call sign
Please continue to do this for these episodes! I for one appreciate it very much! Seems like 26 others liked it as well!!!
Thank you SOOO much good sir!!!
@@vtwinbuilder3129 Thank you, good to know! I tried it out to see how would it go, and it seems to have worked well. Will try my best with new, and possibly, with some of the past episodes.
Much obliged!
Stay blessed brother
The French always produce such beautiful things, and their aircraft are no exception.
Totally agree
Oui
The Mirage and Rafale are so beautiffull. But we don't produce always beautifull things, that's not true XD Just give a look for exemple to the Velsatis car :D
Completely agree.
I've been lucky to see a mirage 2000 solo display and a tactical demo with 2 mirage 2000. It's such a good looking aircraft.
That solo display was impressive.
This plane got me into DCS sim flying. Hornet was a bit overwhelming in its complexity and while with time it has grown on me greatly the Mirage was the first and only plane that I could fly and fight so effortlessly. I had no clue what one vs 2 circle. Corner speed, etc. Meant... but this plane juat intuitively flies so well and does exactly what the pilot asks it to do, that I was free to fight rather than fly the plane. And the number of people I forced to overshoot me and Magic II them as they went by was amazing. There are many planes that are superior to the 2000C in DCS... but the plane brings enough that anyone who undersestimates you regrets it really fast.
Very effective and simple A2A platform，especially when get enough skilled. Cant compare the fox3 carriers but will be surprising when exploiting its potentials with good tectics. Like it much!
Nice timing, I've just been flying this in DCS. Good jet!
Mirage 2000, the ultimate turk buster! Much love to France from Greece!
@Arup Ratan Mitra that F-16 wasn't engaging it's had two tanks.
As always, really enjoyed this episode. Although I'll admit to being perplexed that anyone was actually offended by the intro, Jell-O wasn't even dismissive of those issues, important as they are. I actually had to come back and listen to the beginning again to remind myself what could have been so controversial after he mentioned it at the start of the following episode. 'Controversy' aside, great episode and Matéo was excellent!
My thoughts exactly, People are WAY to soft.
I can't wait to listen to this one!! Thanks for all those amazing podcast. Greeting from France.
I was just thinking how cool it would be for you to do a podcast about the mirage 2000. One of the best looking 4th gen fighters ! Thanks for making my wishes come true. Vive la France !
One of my favorites! I'll listen while working on project since its pouring rain today.
Big love for the "Buguette"!
It suprises me, how well Razbam did very very similar flight characteristics on their DCS module, with the real thing, as Mateo described!
A fun fact : Taiwan became the first customer to purchase Mirage 2000-5s in 1992.
Thanks to the Mirages, Taiwan became the first East Asian country to have a FOX-3 capable aircraft . (Japanese F-15s were using AIM-7s , Chinese Sukhois were using AA-10s)
During the 90s it was the best fighter jet in Asia, however, due to lack of continuous upgrades, they're also starting to show their age.
Mirages are like French "Louis Vuitton", sleek but expensive to operate and maintain.
India purchased a custom variant based on the Mirage 2000-5 called mirage 2000 H with Israeli and Russian avionics in the 80s.
DragonPG 2000 There were no Mirage 2000-5s in the 80s.
The Mirage 2000Hs were based on Mirage 2000B and Cs
They were then upgraded to Mirage 2000Is in 2015 which are -5 standard
India inducted mirage 2000 in 1985 if you have doubts then google it
India inducted mirage 2000 in 1985 if you have doubts then google it
As a 2000 maintainer, I won't say that the 2000 is a particularly expensive aircraft to maintain compared to its competitors. It is quite comparable to the F-16 in that regard. Today they cost more, but because the airframes are from 1980's
This should be a good one, can't believe your almost at 90 episodes man!
The name of the movie with Mirage 2000 is Sky Fighters (Les Chevaliers du ciel).....A pretty good movie
Now that winter is over, I have free time on the weekends to continue all the awesome podcasts about fighter pilots and fighter jets.
Great episode! Mr Dassault aways said that if a a plane is beautiful it flies well too!
How interesting, this phrase is known in Russia to be said by Andrey Tupolev, whose bureau designed the Tu series of Soviet aeroplanes. Apparently, he wasn't the first to say it! And the French definitely follow along this line well, they have some of the most beautiful aircraft out there!
@@gregory.chalenko Pourtant les avions Russes sont plutôt laid dans l'ensemble.
The F-117 is beautiful, but remove the flight computers and it won't fly beautiful.
The F-117 is beautiful, remove the flight computers and it doesn't fly beautiful.
@@slyfer5321 Remove the flight computer from the Mirage 2000, F-16, 18, 22, 35, Eurofighter, Gripen etc. and the will not fly at all ... like all modern FBW equipped fighters.
Thanks for the video Vincent! Just a thought on the HMDS, the Indian upgrade programme the Mirage-2000I has them, it is the Elbit DASH and we had them guiding the Vympel R-73. Even the A2G load out is unique with the Spice munition and the Popeye/Crystal Maze employment.
This guy was really cool. The Mirage is one hell of a cool plane aswell. Awesome
I would love it if you invited a swiss "militia pilot" as we call it here. from the beggining and up to the F-5, the majority of swiss fighter pilots were part time fighter pilots, all having a "normal" job besides that (farmers, mechanics, physicians, doctors, etc...). They also probably have a lot to say about what it was to be neutral in the middle of cold war Europe, highway bases operations, caverns operations, etc...
The story about him doing a low-pass and seeing two young ladies on the boat flashing a part of their body was hilarious😂 He did an escape maneuver after seeing those. Lmao😭
Regarding the parting shot from the AeroE: I did a comparison of all the major systems like radars, engines, and FLIR/LST/EO pods in the USAF, USN, and USMC Air Component Forces for ODS, along with the specific mission profiles for each of those aircraft. There were over a dozen types of fighter and attack radars, as well as at least a dozen different type of engines, and most of the designs had 2 engines. The logistics tails and specialized training for all of the maintenance crews was labyrinthine. Spare parts on commonly-removed components was out of control. The logistics war of ODS is impressive when you look at how many complicated and failure-prone systems the mx crews had to keep up for the fight.
JSF streamlines that logistic war into something that is not only beneficial to the 3 US services, but coalition partners as well. There was an article recently where USAF F-35As flew to the UK for training, and UK maintainers were able to service the jets, even though they have a much different variant with the F-35B. Something like that wasn't even a thing with the F-4 from what I understand, since the UK F-4s had different engines.
Interesting point.
Quality podcast.
Made my day .....i am a surgeon dealing with current times and this virtually relaxed me 😍😍...plz make a video also on sukhoi 30series mki plzzz
Thanks as always.
That was a great intro!
Thanks, although not everyone agrees with you.
Awesome episode Jello 👏. I have fond memories of the Mirage as a boy being strafed in my back paddock by a cheeky RAAF Mirage.
Did he say an Australia spy was in the engine factory?
Thanks for sharing 👍🏻👍🏻🙃🙃
The intro😂.
Some liked it, some thought it insensitive.
I love these podcasts! I’ve watched most of not all of season one, and have been catching up on the aircraft series. If you don’t mind I have a podcast idea that might help a lot of younger people like me. I want to join the military, and become a pilot. That goal will not change, but there are so many aircraft that I want to fly like the f/a-18, f-15, a-10, and the uh-60. The problem is that they are in different services. Maybe you could do a podcast in the future that can help people like me decide on which service to go into. Some points you can make would be living conditions, work/life balance, pay(if that changes), and any extra details that might be needed to tell.
Thank you for this amazing podcast - like others who have bought the DCS World Mirage 2000 simulation module, everything that Mathieu tells us is pure gold in terms of how to make fullest use, and have greatest fun with it. Would love to know if Mathieu has tried to module, and his views on it.
I've seen 'Le Chevaliers du Ciel' movie - and it is AWESOME btw - for filming in one location took a very special permission, which makes it all the more amazing.
Good story and exelent filming!
Ah a beautiful mirage! Hey cap could you get some Indian sukhoi 30mki pilots?
i know those syyblos are from buda,but dude
@@thegamingtrollhouse8305 it's a religious symbol used by many religions for 2500 years.
@@thegamingtrollhouse8305 go ahead and pat yourself on the back there bud
@@thegamingtrollhouse8305 they're not exclusively Buddhist. It's actually a Hindu religious symbol.
@@thegamingtrollhouse8305 meh being PC is not my thing dude.
MATE .. LUCKY I WAITED 0.5 SEC's .. I HAD MY FINGER ON THE MOUSE READY TO CLICK OUT ... G'DAY FROM AUSTRALIA ........ -: )
good stuff :))
Ha! That opening got my eye twitching.
Loved your opening humour 🤣
Good demonstration of the French power 💪🇲🇫
Hi from France 👋
Vive la France
I was in Djibouti for much of 2003 at Camp Lemonier when I was in the Marines. We loved watching the Mirage 2000s. I think I also saw a Mirage 4 at some point. The Foreign Legion guys also put on an interesting show because they had a DZ within sight of our perimeter and we got to see them jump every week.
Nice! I visited Camp L for a couple days in '03, wonder if we were there at the same time? 🤔
@@FighterPilotPodcast If you flew in it was definitely a morale booster for us! We were visited by Navy F/A-18s and let me tell you it was a real treat after only seeing French planes for months. Don't get me wrong, the Mirages were absolutely beautiful aircraft, but seeing an American fighter in the sky after so long was a sight for sore eyes. I was there from Feb-Aug '03.
@@paulsteigerwald7623 Sorry to disappoint but I rode in on a C-130.
@@FighterPilotPodcast Ha! It was an interesting but dull deployment and anything that broke the monotony was welcome. My Marines on the perimeter posts weren't as excited to see C-130s as F-18s, but at least they were something different than the usual C-160 Transalls:)
@@paulsteigerwald7623 For sure.
god damn it, you nearly had me at the beginning Vincent.Hand was on ejector seat handle nice psych out!!!
🤣
Great thank you sir for this interview! That was my most expectated last time! I got answers for all my questions! :-)) Oh, no! I fogot one! The great effectivity of the airbrakes! Why it is more effective than similar competitors in DCS i mean? Because they placed in front part and takes more laminar air flow?
Good question!
If my memory serves me right, the Taiwanese version is dedicated/limited to air-to-air capability. BTW, speaking of twin engine Mirage, I was so in love with its bigger and amazing looking brother "4000." It was aimed to be one of the 4th gen heavyweight greats along side of the Eagle and the Tomcat. I heard, a lot of what Dassault learned from the self funded project was used on the Rafale. I wish him and his family remain safe in Hong Kong.
The Mirage 2000 is one of my favorite planes to fly in DCS. Just wish it had some Fox 3's :).
Hopefully we'll get the -5 in the next couple of years since AdA is very interested in a -5 module for training
@@therealtjpek that would be awesome!
Yes, GBU-49 can guide with GPS or laser. It's like Paveway II with GPS.
Oh snap, the m2000. *grabs popcorn*
How do you sign up for the DCS Mirage 2000 module?
kingsumo.com/g/szxypx/mirage-2000c-module-and-baltic-dragons-red-flag-campaign
@@FighterPilotPodcast awesome! Thanks! I've entered
Great episode! Can someone tell me where is the entrance to the giveaway though?
kingsumo.com/g/szxypx/mirage-2000c-module-and-baltic-dragons-red-flag-campaign
can anyone link the 9gs podcast i can’t find it
9gsconsulting.com/podcast
Any updates on the Thrustmaster giveaway Jello? It still says winners haven't been picked yet
Should be soon. Keep an eye on our Facebook page for winner announcements.
Loved the intro I was worried for a second but I'm sure people will cry since you made a joke
They sure did. The ability to take a joke is going extinct.
That is the most French story I could've imagined
One of the favourite birds in Indian airforce inventory.
For its air to ground role in himalayan mountains check it's role in 1999 kargil war.
I have read that it can surpass 12 g. A delta wing, by its nature, seems to be very strong.
Awesome Jello, as always! I love your episodes - even if you keep giving me lousy grades on my passes :) [see: DCS World F/A-18, for the uninitiated]
I'm just calling them like I see them!
Not bad.
Mentioning DCS so often, why don't you make an episode dedicated to that sim with opinion from different aviators who flew both real and sim versions of specific planes discussing the reality and the quality of this product?
ruclips.net/video/CnqV69es0bo/видео.html
The Kfir was substantially redesigned, used the GE J-79, and had fixed canards. The USN used it as an aggressor for a while in the 80s.
The preceding Nesher was the Mirage 5 derivative that Mathieu described, which indeed used a "cloned" SNECMA ATAR-9C engine.
Also, there are rumors that the French AdA simply handed the plans to the Israelis, no espionage required.
⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ nothing less.
Ohhhhhhhj boy!
Vive la France !
From my understanding the IAI *Nesher* was built from use of stolen airframe and engine plans of the Mirage 5 and with use of Israeli avionics.
The *Kfir* was a further modification of the Neshe by using a license-built General Electric J79 engine along with the addition of canard foreplanes and "dogtooth" leading edges to the main wing.
The thing is that when they exported Nesher and Kfir to South America countries, they found Aérospatiale* markings on airframe (= made in France).
Considering the difficulties that Switzerland had to produce ATAR 9C engine, it's very unlikely that Israel manage to produce that engine. They didn't produce engine before it after.
Bottom line: these are cover stories, because officially France declared embargo, but they delivered parts kit to assemble the planes in Israel.
*Mirage III is Dassault, but the demand was so high on Mirage III that they had to outsource some of the production.
I love birds on boats :-)
I think his callsign come from the comics "Fox 1" that I've had. It's about two pilots of a armée de l'air Rafale B. The pilot is named Mateo and his radar officer is a women (and I forgot her named lol)
The Fighter Pilot Podcast At min 24 he tell as if you are slow and turning the nose go upward just apply bottom rudder like the old school flying
Nice podcast. Unfortunately you only had a -5F pilot and no D pilot. The mirage 2000D is the F-15E s mirage as the -5F is the C except the mirage 2000D can’t do air to air. The 2000D/N have more differences than what he told you. The D and N are different frame that only the pilots of those can really explain. It’ll be great if we could have a mirage 2000D pilot or NOSA (WSO) on the show to talk about the mirage 2000D.
Thanks for the feedback, we'll see about circling back around to the A/G models.
Vincent, there is a dude on the DCS Forums that goes by the handle "MaxMPower" hes a flanker piot in the RuAF I believe he's flown the Su-33 Su-27 and Su-35. You need that dude on your show, his english isn't great though so maybe a translator would be required.
Please do one on the F1 or the Mirage III pretty please!?!?!?
Sure. Know any pilots willing to be interviewed?
Great episode! Thanks!! Maybe for a future episode you can interview a Super Étendard pilot from the french navy, He has a youtube channel called
"ATE" CHUET TOPGUN2SPEAKER
We had Ate on the show discussing the Rafael.
Ohh miss that episode gonna check it out, thanks 😀
One sexy bird!
Mehmetcik Busters...
Hey Jello when are you going to do up some tic toc for RUclips!?
Indian Air Force uses Mirage 2000 as a fighter bomber.
Great episode again, thank you guys! I wonder if you ever plan to do an episode on the Su30, it is a very wide family of aircraft? If you do, please try not to find an Indian pilot, I think they are very biased. The MiG21 guy was telling in one sentence they didn't even have an AOA meter and in the second, how good the aircraft was for everything. MiG29 was the same for me, I was a little disappointed in Indian interviews. Anyway, I'm up for whatever you come up with next!
Thanks, Lefty. Hopefully we can find a suitable guest.
SHIT MAN, that intro trolled me good. almost closed vid
Thanks! (But not everyone appreciated it)
SU 30 MKI India Air Force ask your friends or LCA Tejas try doing a broadcast
Ok.
Use Google Jello...2 sec search to see GBU-49 is a Dual Mode GPS and laser guided GBU-12 😉
The " 2000 " , the only F16 killer in the world...
...besides the SA-6. 😉
Just. Too. Many. Ads!
whats up with the jam packed ads on this episode? i dont mind ads but this is wayyy too much
RUclips getting a little aggressive. Should be fixed...
Funny how carbon lives in Hong Kong..
Isn't China a bit of a mess(to say the least) right now?
Not even close to the mess in the USA. Don't belive everything you read :D (including this)
HOW RELEVANT IT S MIRAGE-2000 IN 2020?
uahuha... I almost got out when you said "climate change"...
This episode is not gunna be for me. I'll come back later. Military isn't even about justice, let alone social justice. It's about war, national defense, and the great people and machines that serve to support it.
...um, okay, see you later, Rob.
Ah.............................Well at least I'd rather be embarrassed than disappointed.
In my defense, if a Navy vet living in CA invites a French pilot to the show and mentions topics of current events involving misplaced cultural values and outrage, I'm inclined to believe them.
Way to go, Rob
That doesn't work on me, Mark.
NO THANK MIRAGE
First..... Edit: Damn really been first..lol.
Eh France is a Western country
don't start your shows like that, i almost turned it off. :)
Yes sir.
French accent.... Dude , It has been too disgusting to me