Is the passing score 100 or 85 like all the other UP exams? I know BNSF is 90 or better. Except for their signals, you must get all of them correct or it's a fail.
@@WIPEOUT_Trains not sure because I need to pass my background, medical and PAT before going forward. Hopefully the East Valley Line. That would be a great place for starters.
The UP Geneva sub used the cab signals but it was a pain because no foreign units could lead as well as some UP units. They removed it in the early 2020's.
@WIPEOUT_Trains I know man I get that a lot but tbh I'll do anything to get that job I already graduated high school and got my diploma which is required so I'm somewhat ready
@@EricPlayzGames well please just remember there are other places to work also. To me, it’s not worth the amount of time away from family which really takes a toll on your mental state.
Very nice! The signals are a bit different that what we had on Conrail under NORAC and the 'modified' NORAC/Conrail signals after the NS takeover. A very good explanation.
Love the explanation. But to be fair, in comparison to eg german signalling, which is quite complex but in a usefull way, the “us” signalling is just ridiculusly difficult. So many different ways of showing the exact same thing, and on top of that variances between operators, AND go on red signals? Why had this never been standardized?
Hey @Thesupermachine2000 the U.S. signal is actually fairly simple. Typically, I would only see like 5-6 of those simple signals. But overall they are super simple to understand.
Sorry if this seems like a dumb question. I'm used to Eastern railroad signaling systems. When a signal says "approach diverging" or "diverging clear" and the rule is "proceed at prescribed speed". How does one know what the prescribed speed is? I am used to eastern signaling traditions where you will always be given the speed such as "approach limited" or "approach slow".
Hey @j-bird1778 so the “diverging” signals are basically to tell us that we are going from 1 line of track to another and we have ti correspond with the speed limit of that crossing. It’s just something that we have been taught. Also proceed and prescribed speed is something that we are given in our time table that is our speed limit for any length of track that we run on.
The NORAC and later modified Conrail/ NORAC signals, were speed signals. Approach Limited would be to approach the next signal at Limited Speed. The Limited Clear would indicate Limited Speed through the turnouts until the last car clears and then Normal Speed. There is a caveat for Cab Signals. The NORAC signals have a much shorter and succinct definition. NS signals aren't speed signals and the definitions are similar to the UP signals. I rarely had to run on the NS signals, since I was prior right Conrail and could hold the assignments on the ex-Conrail lines. Retired now for over a year and don't miss it, really.
Now, you could be me with the Train Simulation game, and fly right through the yard at 35 mph, and completely throw out all of these signals, and rules.
Thank you @FLRailroaddog I’m glad you found what I provided as informative. If you want to take the photos of the cards for your railfanning adventures, go for it!
@@larryjanson4011 howdy Larry, unfortunately you can not buy those from off store shelves or any shelves for that matter. I earned these cards due to me being a UP Conductor and with all of my other conductor training I could get all the fancy books and what not.
I remember taking this test i nearly was about to make a 0 on the score but my memory came back online and i made 100 and my instructor stopped the whole class after the test and called me to the center room and told me you either have to be a genius or you got bad memory 😂😂😂 all to say he said he never seen anything like this before 😂😂😂
@@WIPEOUT_Trains In the Netherlands only one signal, sometimes with a number signal for a different speed than the standard track speed. For example: after a station the train can go 2 directions. One direction max speed 120 Km/h, the diversion route 80 Km/h. If the train goes strait, only green signals. If the train goes the other route, first a orange signal with number signal shows 8, indicating reduce speed to 80 Km/h, followed by a green blinking light with a number signal showing a 8 indicating passing allowed with a max speed of 80 Km/h. After that a green signal indication that the train can go to the max track speed. The track speed is given by a sign.
@@kaasmeester5903 From what i read, a main signal acts as a distance signal too. But on some places there is a separate distance signal which can only show green and orange. I am not an expert, so it is possible that i am wrong about some information. There is a site which goes over railways and contains detailed info over rules and signals too (pdf file).
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Is the passing score 100 or 85 like all the other UP exams? I know BNSF is 90 or better. Except for their signals, you must get all of them correct or it's a fail.
@ howdy, for UP it’s an 85 or better.
accepted the job offer in Roseville, your old stomping grounds. My tentative start date is February 3, 2025. Two days after my 31st birthday lol.
@@alphaking1994 Congrats my friend! What route are you going on?!
@@WIPEOUT_Trains not sure because I need to pass my background, medical and PAT before going forward. Hopefully the East Valley Line. That would be a great place for starters.
The UP Geneva sub used the cab signals but it was a pain because no foreign units could lead as well as some UP units. They removed it in the early 2020's.
Thank you for the knowledge provided in the video. I just accepted a job at Union Pacific, train crew. This video will help me pass my signals test.
@@nowrongopinions we’ll be careful of the managers. They are never your friend. Let me know when you pass it!
I hope this will help me in the future with my dream job:) definitely saving this video
My friend, this job isn’t as glamorous as it seems. The people are not nice man and if they sniff the fact you like trains. They WILL fire you.
@WIPEOUT_Trains I know man I get that a lot but tbh I'll do anything to get that job I already graduated high school and got my diploma which is required so I'm somewhat ready
@@EricPlayzGames well please just remember there are other places to work also. To me, it’s not worth the amount of time away from family which really takes a toll on your mental state.
@WIPEOUT_Trains I'm just waiting til I'm fully ready when the day comes I'd be ready
I guess to sum it up I want to do work somewhere where I'm excited to go to work and not wish I had done that sooner
Very nice! The signals are a bit different that what we had on Conrail under NORAC and the 'modified' NORAC/Conrail signals after the NS takeover. A very good explanation.
Thank you @johnandrus3901 I could only imagine what it was like with conrail. What is NORAC?
@@WIPEOUT_Trains Northeast Operating Rules Advisory Committee
Love the explanation. But to be fair, in comparison to eg german signalling, which is quite complex but in a usefull way, the “us” signalling is just ridiculusly difficult. So many different ways of showing the exact same thing, and on top of that variances between operators, AND go on red signals? Why had this never been standardized?
Hey @Thesupermachine2000 the U.S. signal is actually fairly simple. Typically, I would only see like 5-6 of those simple signals. But overall they are super simple to understand.
Sorry if this seems like a dumb question. I'm used to Eastern railroad signaling systems. When a signal says "approach diverging" or "diverging clear" and the rule is "proceed at prescribed speed". How does one know what the prescribed speed is? I am used to eastern signaling traditions where you will always be given the speed such as "approach limited" or "approach slow".
Hey @j-bird1778 so the “diverging” signals are basically to tell us that we are going from 1 line of track to another and we have ti correspond with the speed limit of that crossing. It’s just something that we have been taught. Also proceed and prescribed speed is something that we are given in our time table that is our speed limit for any length of track that we run on.
The NORAC and later modified Conrail/ NORAC signals, were speed signals. Approach Limited would be to approach the next signal at Limited Speed. The Limited Clear would indicate Limited Speed through the turnouts until the last car clears and then Normal Speed. There is a caveat for Cab Signals. The NORAC signals have a much shorter and succinct definition. NS signals aren't speed signals and the definitions are similar to the UP signals. I rarely had to run on the NS signals, since I was prior right Conrail and could hold the assignments on the ex-Conrail lines. Retired now for over a year and don't miss it, really.
Thanks for the information.
As Always @huntercoleman460! I am here to inform the masses of how UP operates! If you want to use those for railfanning go for it!
Now, you could be me with the Train Simulation game, and fly right through the yard at 35 mph, and completely throw out all of these signals, and rules.
Haha UP Management would have a field day with us! Training videos will be just us pissing around!😂😁
@@WIPEOUT_Trains
UP: Noooo, you can't just take off with the Big Boy!
Us: hahaha, locomotive go Brrrrrrrr!
@@bruinOne Yes Exactly are YOU in the Cab of the Big Boy...NO😂
Good video, like.
Thank you very much!
New to the channel.. great information 👍
Thank you @FLRailroaddog I’m glad you found what I provided as informative. If you want to take the photos of the cards for your railfanning adventures, go for it!
where can such signal cards be bought at?
maybe just the way i search, i have not found any.
@@larryjanson4011 howdy Larry, unfortunately you can not buy those from off store shelves or any shelves for that matter.
I earned these cards due to me being a UP Conductor and with all of my other conductor training I could get all the fancy books and what not.
I remember taking this test i nearly was about to make a 0 on the score but my memory came back online and i made 100 and my instructor stopped the whole class after the test and called me to the center room and told me you either have to be a genius or you got bad memory 😂😂😂 all to say he said he never seen anything like this before 😂😂😂
Yea that test was super tough but that is a great story🤣 thanks for sharing
Where were u a conductor at for UP?
Most of my time was in Roseville CA.
The signals you have are complicated, compared to the Dutch system.
I can only imagine the Dutch system!
@@WIPEOUT_Trains In the Netherlands only one signal, sometimes with a number signal for a different speed than the standard track speed. For example: after a station the train can go 2 directions. One direction max speed 120 Km/h, the diversion route 80 Km/h. If the train goes strait, only green signals. If the train goes the other route, first a orange signal with number signal shows 8, indicating reduce speed to 80 Km/h, followed by a green blinking light with a number signal showing a 8 indicating passing allowed with a max speed of 80 Km/h. After that a green signal indication that the train can go to the max track speed. The track speed is given by a sign.
@@user-marco-S Doesn't the Dutch system have Distant signals?
@@kaasmeester5903 From what i read, a main signal acts as a distance signal too. But on some places there is a separate distance signal which can only show green and orange. I am not an expert, so it is possible that i am wrong about some information. There is a site which goes over railways and contains detailed info over rules and signals too (pdf file).
where can someone, who is a model railroader, get a copy of these cards?
Hey @johnbrogan6583 unfortunately, to only get these cards. You have to apply for the train crew position and then they will provide these cards.
@@WIPEOUT_Trains thank you
Where can I buy theses cards ???
Howdy you can not buy these cards. You get these by working for the railroad.
@@WIPEOUT_Trains thanks starting for up in a couple days
@@jayd60644 Trust no one my friend managers are not your friend! Don’t be afraid to ask questions!
Appreciate the advice!!!
@@jayd60644 I’ve got a discord and if you got any more questions. Let me know over there.