Im a black American theres a disconnection because of education they dont teach us african history besides Egypt they don't teach us about nubia and the Mali empire there so much history thats not being taught so we dont know we are embracing our african heritage because we are learning now the world is changing
You should take it upon yourself to teach the things that the white washed school system won’t teach us as fucked up as that sounds but it’s a fact that the history of minorities is getting suppressed
@@jim-fq6fv I want to ask this question to Africans know that the term slavery came from Eastern Europeans I bet you they don't know this they know that the kkk are direct descendants of the Knight Templars are the founders of Freemasonry and created of the banking system that we got today do they know about that you bet they do they are too afraid to touch that even the black church no one speak about this we as a people we got to be honest about ourselves even white people got to be honest about this but they got all explaining to do about this
I am Nigerian and I've never lived abroad so this is what I think. Africans and African Americans are very different. First off Africans within themselves are very different, this is a whole continent, Nigerians and Ghanaians are as different as the Moon and stars, talk less of East Africans and West Africans before you even talk about Africans as a whole and African Americans. Another thing I think people forget is the American in African American, and the African in Africans. in my opinion African Americans are more American than they are African for obvious historical reasons. Culture, identity, socialisation, ethics and values are a lot more rooted in nationality than skin color and facial features. So in essence an African American is going to have the same level of culture shock as their other American counterparts in Africa. And an African will have the same level of culture shock in America as an Asain born and bred in Asia. Infact it's quite common to see differences in socialisation and ways of thinking with other groups like Europeans and European Americans, Asians and Asains Americans and the same is true for Africans and African Americans. It is also important to note that different does not equal superior it just means not completely the same and yes we share the same ancestry that's pretty much where it ends, everything else that we know or have to know about each other, we will have to unlearn, learn and relearn it. Now, for the things causing the divide, I really agree with the Sudanese girl, there are very negative stereotypes about one another caused by media and Africans who go to America also assimilate into these narratives because I personally don't think African parents hold strong negative ideas of Africans Americans. It's not a thing at least here in Nigeria for parents to send their children abroad and tell them specifically not to hang out with African Americans, so as someone who has lived in Nigeria all my life that was new to hear, but I stand to be corrected. Hence when both people interact it's most likely not a pleasing experience especially because we like to think we are the same hence we should be better to each other than others races are to us and this leads to my second point. Thinking were are the same and not being able to respect how we are different is one of the causes of the divide. I think that's where that African Americans don't have culture comment comes from. There are Africans who really think that Africans and African Americans are the same people and believe that AA should understand or show the same level of cultural awareness as an African child and when they don't as they should, the Africans see it as a problem. For instance in many Nigerian ethnicities respect based on seniority is such a huge deal that even when it borders on bullying and abuse of power people still expect the younger ones to always concede to the elder. It's complete bullshit and some of this elderly Nigerians go to America or the UK and expect that black kids from these areas must respect them the same way they are respected back home,they go about demanding respect cause their old and running down young people thinking it's going to be the same as it back home. It's utter madness I tell you. There other issues that are also enlarging this divide, especially on social media, there was this clubhouse where an AA was talking about how Africans are stealing their jobs and shit and Nigerians did not hesitate to go off on them. I do hope though that we get along as people really, other races don't give a fuck about anyone if your not white. So if there's anyone who should stand for each other it's people of African descent.
I appreciate and agree with a lot of your words here especially the part about us expecting better from each other Bc we think we are the same. I am AA and can recall many times I was wronged by what I thought was other African Americans only to later realized I was being outcast Bc I am African American. The interesting part was AA saying Africans are stealing our jobs. There’s an article where are as governor boldly states they hire Africans over African Americans to watch over African Americans …. And even more Indian, Arab, and Chinese employers have stated they prefer to hire Africans over African Americans for many reasons including stereotypes but the thing they mentioned that stood out was that Africans don’t fight and aren’t always seeking change. I think that comment sheds light to what the issue truly is. AA are/were breaking this system down one stone at a time! Now our efforts are coming to a slow Bc our voices are being drowned out by the systems preference which is immigrant! Those unaware of how this place truly operates. Those unaware of how america uses citizens against each other to maintain power and oppression. Hopefully these convos will shed light so that both sides can be more intentional in the moves they make.
It wouldn't have been that way if our own people didn't sell us. So instead of pointing out the differences and a lot of Africans get mad because African-Americans want to know that roots. Why don't you guys teach us. Why don't you guys show us. You got Africans saying that African-American aren't real africans. It's not our fault we ended up in America. If our ancestors didn't sell us for tobacco and stuff that was accessible. A lot of African-Americans want to go back to their roots. Getting DNA test to find out what African tribes they are from. Teach us.
@@lovelove-pr2yo I don't know how true it is that Africans get mad because AA want to know their roots, why would they be annoyed by that, if that has an atom of truth then thats absolutely ridiculous. However if you want to learn whatever it is you want to learn some of these African countries have programs targeted for African descendants in diaspora. Like Ghana has a Right of Abode policy that allows African descendants in diaspora to stay in Ghana indefinitely, and there's also so many Year of return, door of return intiatives, usually done by west african countries to help people reconnect with their ancenstry. At the end of the day the best way to go about it is to live within the society. And if thats too much then RUclips could also suffice.
@@idaraudoh2808 Wow, very interesting and good insights. BTW, so sorry if this is weird, not my intention, but I'm Nigerian-American and I know someone with the exact same name as you, no lie. Do you live in California, or have you lived there before if I may ask? Or is it just a common name that I'm not realizing?
@@idaraudoh2808I am a black American male. Born and raised in Philadelphia in a neighborhood that was mixed black and white. Education with a degree in mathematics and a military veteran. Just like Africans are different, so are blacks throughout the United States and the Caribbean. I graduated High School in 1983 and went to college in California. That was a culture shock because blacks on the west coast and east coast are very different. Blacks in the south are very different. And black Americans have also been taught to hate themselves throughout the history of this country. So throughout the years there has been many phases we as blacks have embraced. Black power, and pan African ideology as well. We in America have been taught by white to hate skin color meaning dark vs light skin. We as blacks in America are still recovering from a lot of the mental trauma we have suffered from slavery and oppression. So within the entire experience with slavery in America and colonialism in Africa we have come a long way. However I will say that the majority of blacks in America is learning so much more about our motherland and the difference cultures within the African continent. We are much more educated about Africa and the knowledge is steadily increasing. But we have been shut off from the truth about Africa intentionally and have been fed stereotypes about Africa just like Africans have been fed stereotypes about us.
I just don’t understand how it’s “offensive” when kids grow up, apologize for their ignorant ways and begin to learn and connect with their roots. How is that offensive?
Because when you're a child this is the most important part of your psychological development and the scars, trauma you experience at this time will follow you until your death bed. This is a studied psychological phenomena and not only happens to humans, but animals as well.
@@Angell_Lee so basically it doesn’t matter if we apologize for our faults and actively learn our roots...it’s still not going to be enough. It’s still going to offend
@@terrasaidit Yes it matters and it's great! I'm just saying the scars and where this divide comes might be from childhood and this is why it's good to have those conversation. To not repeat the same mistake for upcoming generation. :)
@@Angell_Lee ahh ok ok I understand what you’re saying. I personally have never done that, I’m AA but I’ve definitely seen it done to others and even as a little girl I never thought it was right
your conversation lacked the real issues that create the so called "difference" you guys should listen to Kwame Nkurumah, Gaddafi, Kagame, President Mkapa and Malcom X they had this conversation but on the real issues
Also we cannot assume that all Black Americans view African cultures as a trend because there are a lot of Black Americans who are want to learn and educate themselves about African cultures but I feel as though some Africans are being too hostile and not giving Black Americans a chance.
As an African I think the issue is that AAs to many Africans have made fun of them just as much as white people, if not more. And also that AAs are constantly claiming to be Israelites or places they’re not actually from. And the ones that know there ethnicity is African act is if Africans are the same as Americans. And Africans aren’t just going to pretend we’re the same just because we’re black. But I would say for me personally, I respect when AAs are proud of them being American and just want to learn about their ancestors, and not try to claim a culture that they don’t presently belong in.
Don't listen to them. Explore what draws you in. Gatekeeping things from people who look like you is ridiculous 🙄 We Africans, some though not most, love Black American culture. I'm not ashamed that I grew up listening to old skool RnB by folks like Jill Scott, Brandy, Whitney Houston etc. They are loved here. So it'd be nice if you guys wanted to explore our culture and our music too.
I'm a Black Zambian millennial woman and this conversation resonated and I love that y'all are having these needed and honest conversations!Thank you all for your perspectives.
I really don’t understand how you can be in America and not know the history of black Americans!!! That must be an immigrant thing. A lot of African millennial/ gen-z immigrants need to RUclips or google “Black American clothing style 1970” or RUclips episodes of 1970~soul train, watch black panther rallies, watch episodes of good times, the Jeffersons or ‘1990~ A different world (tv show), Kid N Play (movie) google pictures of tribe called quest, Africa Bambata (rap/hiphop group)!! Dashiki’s, Kinta cloth and other African clothing was the trend of those times!!! Wearing African dashiki is nothing new!! Y’all are literally half a century late (50 years). My dashiki came from my grandparents house that they’ve had since 1970!!! So to be mad at us wearing dashiki literally makes no sense!! ( even though I understand how y’all were made fun of which was not right 🙅🏿♂️) It’s new to black immigrants who come here but it’s definitely not new to our culture as black Americans/Americans. A lot of Africans around my age Uses the term African American/black American when identifying there background not realizing that the congressional black caucus (CBC) in congress came up with that term in the 1990s for black Americans who are slave descendants from Africa!! That is literally the meaning of the term just google it. Those who choose to come to America are “suppose” to identify with there country of origin (specifically if you’ve immigrant here since 1900 that’s what the census 2020 states) such as Irish-American, British-American, Nigerian-American, Chinese-American, Mexican-American etc. Great job you guys 🤟🏿
Cool stat The African booty scratcher was pure colorism that started during the baby boomer-Gen-X generation 1960-1980. Africans don’t realize that it had nothing to do with them.. all they heard was the African part & they started crying
I’d say, style wise, and hip hop wise yes. But other than that Africans have Afro beats. You also have to remember whatever white Americans or black Americans publicize is mainstream to the rest of the world.
Suits are cultural ...they were dressing in tribal wear even Asians dressed cultural wear before suits became a thing in China etc. Suits are western white folk American or UK ...we can look at photos and see what Africans where wearing so don't say it's not cultural cause that's a lie
I'm no longer African American I'm Black Americans my experience with Africans made me take African off I'm Black American. Its where I'm born that's what I'm accounted for. I'm glad I was born here and proud of my ancestors for there contributions to my life ❤.
@@king_koby9591 I agree. I can only trace my ancestors back to pre-nation America. I believe we were enslaved in our own land. Then some African slaves mixed with my ancestors and the white man labeled us as all belonging to the same group
I think its contradicting for Africans to think They are isolated and not loved ect ;Then when black Americans finally do embrace the culture they are offended and saying black americans are culture vultures. Pick a side lol 🤷🏽♂️
I live in Africa and when people here see others practice their culture they're actually happy and proud of they're culture they don't get offended , those who are talking about the whole culture vulture thing are probably not even African , or just hypocrites , many Africans don't even practice African culture enough to be mad when others do it instead
Wow I never knew this since this is my only social media platform. I bet the white people are having a field day laughing at all the ignorance. Make no mistake, they are laughing at us all.
I remember being in college and having an African student get offended that the professor referred to me as African American . She literally voiced her to opinion to the professor stating that I was not African because I was not born in Africa. I was caught off guard by this because Italians, Irish, Cuban, Dominicans, etc...all come to America and their descendants can state that they're Italian American, Irish American, Cuban American and etc... but according to this student, somehow, I did not qualify. It was as if because my ancestors were brought here by force that and enslaved, we were not worthy of claiming our ancestral heritage. Thanks to DNA testing, I know what tribe my ancestors belong to and where they're at in West Africa and even how my people have ties to Lebanon.
Black Panther actors didnt pronounce the words right i mean couldnt they look for a Xhosa guy to speak in Xhosa coz the moment you mispronounce the language the words change meaning
Ofcourse they were going to misprononounce a language they've never spoken before but they did better than many white south africans i know and yes they did have 2 xhosa speaking people in the movie!!
@@omartistry There are AA actors, it does not matter if there are of western African descent . This stereotypes Africans & why could they not do Southern African accent?
I’m African American & Native American and my experience with a lot of Africans from Africa is that they seem very jealous of African Americans once they realize that we all aren’t ghetto and uneducated & lazy like they believe, they come here assuming everyone black is like what they see on TV , & that’s not exactly how all black people live some of us are just as educated as they are & live in gated communities and not from the ghetto’s or hood & they have a issue with trying to associate Us as not what they have been taught through white society and white washed TV .
Africans are not jealous of aa thats most definitely not the case ,as far as we are concerned we are the ones that take samples of African creator and try and turn it to our own, the things AA are so proud pf originated from Africa ,like the features or the hairstyles or the music African women are known for the big butts and big lips ,they are known for creating the hairstyles made so big today like the buntu knots or the basic box braids that famous AA wear today ,even the music like Shakira song Waka waka was a sample stolen from a underrated African band or Beyonce her self has take many samples herself without credit, everything originated in Africa but just because someone like Beyonce wear or did it was made to seem like it came from America
@@tshepisomello6521 You are talking about appropriation of certain aspects of culture while whites are presently on your continent stealing everything they can carry back to the west. This African/Black American ado is a waste of time. Our oppressor has us at each others throat talking about who feels how about whom. Who cares? Where he is concerned all of us are the same. Getting him off our necks should be our aim and to hell with who said what about whom. Leave your feelings at home because the world at large doesn't give a damn about them. If it did it would rid itself of all the misery in it. Let's start getting together, strategizing, doing business deals, working on ways to deal with our affairs free of the west, start respecting each other, start developing our own economy, and above all stop hating ourselves and those like us. Black anywhere in the world and with few exceptions you have no friends except each other. Now this octogenarian soon to be, in about two years, a nonagenarian will close. My best to all of you.
@@RUclips-KE What in the world are you talking about? What's wrong with strategizing together, doing business deals, working on ways to free ourselves of the west, respecting each other, developing our own economy, and stopping self hatred? Is your reference to my post? I have no hatred towards anyone black or white. I am a black American male octogenarian widower and know that of which I speak. For what it's worth to whom are you referring with the term "people of color?"
Host Africans who only go abroad to study or just to work not only these who have grown up there and have never set a foot in Africa for years... mix them up and you will get the perfect answers you need. All the differences will be seen.
Facts. I’ve faced way more racism, hate comments, racial slurs, comments about my hair (I have natural hair) from other black people, especially women, than I have ANY other group
This video is a bit bias. You have an entire panel of Africans but only about 3 AA? Good content but you all need to grow up and experience life more outside of college.
Thank you for watching! Just a conversation amongst friends we know we have a lot to learn, but I think there is still value in sharing conversations amongst young people, especially young black people. Thanks again for watching
How many African Americans do you need to represent the single African American culture, and how many Africans would you need to represent the majority of a black continent with so many countries with varied cultures?
I feel all that’s sparking this issue Is just scarce opportunities Scare resources Lift up each other and learn to share While being realistic of the changing times we facing
Feel like some Africans want clout from having these discussions because I dont understand when you say yo grown parents talked bad about us but kids saying childish remarks is the worst part idk I've been hearing the same thing mention but I'm American and I've been judged at school as well seem like a agenda to me extreme jealousy nobody bold enough to admit
They were literally taught by their parents to avoid us. I don't know any African American parents saying to avoid Africans. These conversations never come up because Africans numbers are small and thus irrelevant to how be live our lives.
There is no jealousy from us africans theres nothing to be jealous about ,the same fact is you guys call yourself african American but know nothing about your Africa, 🤣first example black panther 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣what was that ,now u can ask any Americans to name a country in Africa and they will say wakanda ,pathetic rlly😂
After this topic, then you all should think of how Africa Americans and African can produced engine of cars, aeroplane engine, so we can be economically free.
Ive known african americans and africans were different since middle school. Every year i met a new african from nigeria or kenya and they were always so polite and studious, being able to attend a school in the us might be a factor, but my school was known for being ghetto so idk
Touchy topic, I’ve only noticed the disconnect this past year... I didn’t understand it but I do know that most people from other black cultures have black Americans, I understand some of the reasons why but I don’t understand the life long grudge and some of the stereotypes against all of us...
Thank you for coming together and sharing a most important topic. First I'd like to say I believe if you all have NOT heard the rap song from the 80s "Africa" by Doug E Fresh you should. It allows you the understanding a lot of African Americans dealt with, back in the day regarding Africa/ Africans. Second, there is ignorance about us and our history that is prevalent among African Americans and Africans. Many African Americans don't have knowledge from an early age about their history I was fortunate my Mother explained it to me. Also, I was privileged to travel, out of the country, in my teens and that broadened my horizons. Many are not able to have that experience. Often times when having a negative encounter with someone, the first thing we look at is the race/ culture of that person. That needs to stop. There are good and bad in all people and that person you encountered was a bad person. The issue is, in my opinion, we will forever be separated if we continue to dwell on the negativity instead of trying to learn and embrace more about each other. Thank you.
Learn you're I would rather be ignorant than and idiot. If my mother came from africa or my father, then I'm africa American. 4 - 5 hundred years ago, my ancestors came from Africa. Example African Jamaican. I love being American. All the heart ship of slavery didn't kill it made us strong. Understanding who you are is not the only important thing that matters. I am a child of
Good debate..I’m an African from Cameroon, living in Finland..I love my African culture as well as I love African American culture because at the end of the day, we are all blacks. I have never been to America but hopefully, I’ll visit one day. I think there are some aspects that are causing the division, not even that of culture. The main aspect here is ignorance.. Many whites and many African Americans still see Africa as a jungle that’s why it’s easy to label Africans as “African booty scratcher” or what so ever people call Africans. Africans on the other hand, were raised with good morals and our parents value education a lot. That’s why they tell us to stay away from African Americans who are lazy, and I’ve got too much feeling of entitlement but however, that is also ignorant because not all African Americans are like that.. I believe as an adult, you just got to be able decide who’s good company or not, no matter what their race or culture is.. So from my point of view it’s got nothing to do with culture, but pure ignorance and unconsciousness..
These conversations are happening because we are getting closer together. These conversations need to happen even if some of them are uncomfortable. The African and the African American must become one.
I wish you would go more in depth about how Africans treat African Americans ...they can be arrogant and say rude stuff like ...once they find out you are American they will say things like oh your ppl are the ppl who don't know where you are from
Hello Nikki, I hope you are well. I happen to be an African in America and before I came to the US, I sort of thought that we were almost the same people save for a few differences. I can't write a lot but I have studied and interviewed my fellow Africans about what they think of black america. Sad thing, is the average black american knows just about nothing to do with Africa and that's where the separation starts. For example, I will tell you that the average African immigrant will most surely avoid settling in a majority black neighborhood...that's at least in the state am in and they have reasons for that, some of which may be obvious to you. Please note that I said...African Immigrant NOT African American as the two are or maybe a different people. You are African American if you still can trace your African heritage and more likely born in the US and you are Black American if you can't. There is a lot more I could tell you but generally speaking, Africans and Black Americans are totally different. Maybe to address the issue of how Africans treat Black Americans, I will briefly say this.....Its quite deep.
@@lennykay5392 African American was a term founded and given to us blacks who ancestors came over here to America via slavery....it's not for immigrants...I know only what I see and research about Africa...You all are African but not African American if you from Africa or ppl from directly from Africa...African American immigrants...to differentiate the two terms... Because Africa countries are so far away and takes at least 24hrs I don't think I will ever go there plus I am not fond of poisonous reptiles or a safari trip...but I am sure it's plenty of beautiful places in Africa many countries. I will keep my behind here lol lordwilling and stay away from states in USA that have that stuff too lol
@@lennykay5392 I just think it's sad that if it wasn't for the African Americans ancestors who helped us get this freedom you all would not enjoy none and I mean NONE of the luxuries or rights you get of being in America Education sports freedom of religion food clothes homes job benefits right to vote..they had to fight , die , take all types of abuse for us to get the luxuries or rights we can get now...so just appreciate that...and what you all do for us in Africa ...you all had apartheid but blks vs blks having massacres ...you all not as free as us ..you all did not fight as hard as us YES U ALL FOUGHT but the outcome far as governments are two different..Africa government suck badly ..we fought hard and still fighting ...to get where we are so other blks such African American born and raised in America plus blk ppl around the world can enjoy...but you all don't appreciate it.
@@usedbyjesus it's without doubt that the American black community has made a lot of sacrifices however let's not close our eyes and pretend...Africans and black Americans are two different people and not similar at all. Their similarity just about starts and ends with the skin tone and it ends there.
"Difference in the way they carry themselves". Indeed, my Nigerian, Jamaican and African friends experienced serious culture shock when they came into contact with American Blacks.
Hmm I find that there is a prejudice against AA, a very resilient people ( might I remind you). Africans wouldnt even be allowed to into this country if it wasnt for African AMericans and the fight they put up. Next, I remember a Jamaican hairdresser talking about how lazy African Americans were.. She said this knowing that she was a hair dresser and I had an MBA in finance working for an investment bank.. LOL.. Go Figure.. I was like heifer are you really saying this nonsense with a straight face when I am in an entirely different socieconomic tier than you.. SMH
As a white American, I never realized there was so much tension between Africans Americans and Black Americans. You could cut the tension in this room with a knife. Very interesting, and informative debate. I learned that I need to learn allot more about Black/African culture, and the struggles faced. Bless whoever has read this comment. May we come together, and embrace our differences. Peace be with you and your family.
@@christianmacaulay2806 there are africans but they said they were african american lmao... that term needs to change to ADOS cos too many african immigrants call themselves african american
Thank you for watching and commenting, you're perspective and others in your age range are definitely valuable and need to be heard. With all do respect I'm not understanding how experiencing segregation and lynching first hand correlates with the essence of our conversation here about the cultural and social disconnect between africans and african americans. I don't think we are too young at all, if you are black in america...you're black in america. The same systems that stripped you of your rights and humanity when you were our age still exist, they just look different and the systems got smarter. Yes we know racism isn't as blatantly violent and extreme as it was back in your young adulthood, but we are still black adults..I think we have lived and seen enough to be able to have a conversation about our experience even if it doesn't necessarily look like our grandparent's experience. We fighting for our grandchildren to have a better experience too. Thank you again for watching
Barrett Miller II but YOU aren’t ADOS, you said you had a Caribbean background. The difference is chattel slavery, Jim Crow, the Black codes, the great migration. Coming from a group of ppl that were forced here and did not willfully come here with a clear agenda. Ppl will pull the “we are all Black” card like we are all the same when it suits them. I know several ppl who are half Carribean and half Black American and they disregard and look down on their Black American side.
I live in Atlanta, USA, Georgia. This is precisely why I promote Africa in the way that I do wherever I can. I call it, 'The Africa You Won't See On TV.' I grew up with Tarzan and the like. But I always knew there had to be more, even as a child. And there is more. Much much more to Africa than we're taught. We have to go and learn the truth of the Motherland, the Continent, because it is absolutely amazing! Now, I'm all in love with East Africa, especially Uganda. And South Africa is WOW! This is getting long, so I'll end by simply saying . . . the only real difference there is between us is the distance between us. amani ndani. amani nje. Peace in. Peace out. L
The difference is cultural. That's it! The trauma these young Africans experienced was based on the ignorance of AA youth. No conscious intelligent adult will call their brothers and sisters "African Booty Scratcher". We are not a monolith. There are levels to this. We as a people are divided due to tribalism and other schisms. We all have identity issues due to Colonization. Whether its French, English, German, Portuguese or Arabic. Tribalism under the colonization of these nations has us confused as a people. Our masters have succeeded in their plan to divide and conquer.
@@demaification No, the "blacks" that were in the US are Native Americans, and they're not "black". The Africans brought over are the "Black" ones. Africans and Native Americans are not from the same race, so stop calling both of them "Black". African Americans descend from Africans, not Native Americans, altough they might have a little, N.A. ancestry, that makes them more African.
@@itsbeyondme5560 I am a middle-aged gainfully employed, degreed professional. American Descendants of US Chattel Slavery are owed TRILLIONS by our government. Be well.
I think that alot of people need to listen to the song and see the video of ( we are the world) "and really really get the meaning of the song"and look at all of the people in the video "and what culture that they are."they gave us the message along time ago.and alot of them aren't with us today.( The music is telling the story of each one of us "because we all love certain songs and certain music that gives us the feeling of love or hate.
My thing is, we are individuals. I have been stereotyped as an African but will I make blanket statements that will end up making me hate a population of 10m+???
They are just speaking for the camera's....why do you not get Local Africans to speak. these kids grew up in America, so obviously they are exposed to the American ways of life..
Why don't you think Americans who have African descent can call themselves "African Americans"? (I agree with you by the way just want to you to expand on why you think that)
@@morganmorgan884 y’all descendants of African People 🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️ you can’t be serious right now. You don’t have to literally live in Africa to know this........
As an Amerikkkan born (FBA) who happens to be black, I never understood why Africans looked down on American blacks. The audacity!! Didn't African tribal Kings sell their own brethren to slave traders across the world for commodities? The white and Arabs didn't do this alone. And why has every mother country fought against Amerikkka except for the Continent of Africa??? KOREA, MEXICO, JAPAN, etc. All fought against Amerikkka but not Africa. The only African hero I know of is Shaka Zulu. But I do know Malclom X, Muhummad Ali, Micheal Jackson and other great black Amerikkkans. When I see Africa I see a place always being exploited and being robbed blind with no resistance, unlike the Indians who fought to the death instead of being enslaved. This is why the Indians, not Africans, are respected for their do-or-die bravery.
I think they are missing something. I am African American born and raised here. I was talked about and ridiculed growing up. I was ridiculed about my lips and gap between my teeth, my own people. Some of the panelists mention that they was criticize about being African is grade school. The reason you were criticized was because of self hate not because of where u came from. I am a product of my enslaved ancestors and I was criticized. I am 49 yrs old and I was raised to respect my elders and authority. These days kids are not raised like I was. We have adopted this white culture because we live here. It's kind forced upon you. You can't discipline your kids like you use too with the fear of going to jail or losing your kids. Black Americans my age or older were raised like an African household. Respect in the household was a must.
African parents are just conservative. I'm a Cameroonian living in Germany and the one thing my parents always told me is : don't bring us a white girl at home (meaning we dont want you to marry a white girl). And that's totally fine because we have a very high sense in continuing the lineage and keeping it clean. To be even more precise I come from the west part of Cameroon and my parents wouldn't want me to marry a girl from any other region. So that's far their conservatism goes . Its nothing against other black or white people , it's just for the sake of the lineage
@@kikebautista2110 well , I can understand that some people might not like it but even in Cameroon this way of thinking can cause a lot of family issues . It still ok to me
@@kingkunta07 Its not that I dont understand it. If you think that way its ok. My issue is that many things that a black person do or say would be consider racist if its a white person doing or saying the same thing. English its not my first language, I dont know if In explaining myself properly.
@@kikebautista2110 I understand what you are saying and they would call it racism the same way people who do not agree with my parents views would call it tribalism.
@Al Person Most of those people you name lived the Black American life and literally had only one parent that was West Indian. Malcolm X didn't know shit about the Island and most of those others didn't either.
@Al Person how is that our fault...lol we were trying to get rid of our difficulties just being African Americans and trying to be seen as equal let alone help the African immigrant..who ancestor in some helped the white man bring us over here
@@usedbyjesus the argument of african selling their own to the white man has got to cease. You really need to go deeper into educating yourself about this subject but for that you need to have a basic grasp at historical geopolitics. First of all, Africa can fit the US, half of europe, China and India altogether so be sure there would have been at least a few tribes willing to do dirty for survival. It's the same as the few of ours ones that sell cracks to their own family and neighbors in america. But the number of africans involved in the slave business were insignificant compared to the rest of the population. Secondly, most slaves sold were war-captives and back in the day, one could exchange war-captives for mostly military-related goods and services. That was just basic warfare practice ALL ACROSS THE WORLD, every human people have done that. War-captives were still treated humanly in Africa and could even become part of the royal family sometimes. So these people who offered war-captives in exchange of bonuses had no idea of what happened next. There'a a lot more to cover but that alone should give you a different vantage point on the matter and show you how much more you have to learn before making easy statements like you did. I used to think like you, but I met a lot of africans that were willing to guide me towards reliable ressources.
@@usedbyjesus Not all African coubtries were involved in the triangular slave trade. Don't direct your bitterness about being sold into slavery to all the Africans.
Some of this is dishonest. The one girl said you have to give respect to get respect yet most African parent they’ll their children to stay away from AA. There is a video on RUclips of a Nigerian woman saying that people have “ the talk” BEFORE coming to America on how to view AA. What kind of energy is a person giving off to an AA person if before they even came to America they viewed AA’s in a bad light? I’m from D.C. which has substantial Nigerian and Ethiopian populations and both groups on a collective level don’t associate with AA’s.
to be fair its not like the black community is particularly something you want your kids to partake in ... coming from a country of poverty to a place where u can get killed for wearing the wrong colors ... i mean come on man dont act oblivious to point of that talk
I'm also African and was told not to associate with AA's but (and this is just personal experience) I probably wouldn't have associated with those kids at school anyways because they made fun of me for being African. There are issues on both sides and its really sad.
@@stanzre but you have no problem coming here period, and despite what you think of the Blacks in america, the dominant race has done much worse to black people in general, but you don't give your children the talk about them, in fact many of you crave their attention. That's phoniness.
I do not think there is no disconnect between Africans and African - Americans per say. The differences are based more on cultural aspects. Africa is not a country, it is a continent. Africans come in all hues, colors, not all Africans are « Black » as we understand in America. There are quite a few Africans who would be seen as « White » in America. Africans as other immigrants can also fall in the « racial » trap which portrays Blacks as « bad ». Nevertheless the vast majority of African immigrants don’t fall for it.
Do a DNA test on an African and Black American. We are different down to that level. There are assumptions based on media misrepresenting how either group moves through society. Even amongst black Americans there is a difference despite the attempts to generalize our backgrounds and behaviors. I know there is a similar difference among Africans just based on the number of cultures that exist country to country on that continent.
Black Americans been wearing dashikis since the 60's. Maybe even earlier. In 1935, black Americans volunteered to go to Ethiopia to help them fight their war against Italy's invasion. Black Americans always supported Africa. Most of the black Americans who tend to treat Africans badly with insults like "african booty scratcher" are immature and ignorant. Everyone said they were called these insults AT SCHOOL. Kids say dumb shit. Even I said dumb shit as a kid because I just didn't know better. I didn't understand the weight of my words. I was just joking around and shit. Even I was called an "african booty scratcher" growing up and I'm a black American. When you get older and gain more knowledge, you change your ways. You start to move different. And, alot of Africans come to the US and talk shit about black Americans and are told by other people to not be around us. In Africa, within their education system, they're not even taught about the history of slavery, colonization, and racism. They're not taught how colonization has affected their continent and shaped the borderlines of their country. Black Americans are literally a people who don't know what tribe and country their ancestors came from. We're taught that we are descendants of slaves and that's it. Our whole identity has been stolen. We are taught that Africans are savages and Africans are taught that black Americans are savages. They are trying to divide us and its working. Its always been divide and conquer for them. We have the same enemy! And, that is where pan-african-ism comes in. We need to UNITE. We need to teach and educate one another and work together. Peace, love, and prosperity to all my black and African brothers & sisters. I love y'all.
I think all African immigrants should go by the nationality like every other Foreigner in America if you Nigerian you should go as such Nigerian American like the guy did in the video you cannot label yourselves African-American and to keep it 100 you guys literally copy us and we do not copy you at all
We can label ourselves that because we are literally Africans You are the ones who isn't but have African heritage What do we copy you in? I'm listening
@@everythingteensandyoungadu3181 the way we talk,walk,dress everything stop acting like you don’t know. I live in nyc and the African youth here are crazy and out of control. You guys come to America and forget your African culture to fit in with the American culture my people created
@@naga7461 no Y'all are the crazy ones We have accents that are unique to not just our countries but our individual tribes/ethnic groups I don't even talk like people from a different tribe in my own country In fact, I don't even talk like people of my tribe from a different state That's how deep and unique it is We don't dress like y'all We dress like the westerners and we also wear our natives We dress like the west because we were colonized by the west just as you were enslaved by them and we both had to live their lifestyles basically because that's what was enforced Moreover, y'all wear our clothes in the spirit of Africa or whatever y'all call it You wear it and we don't wail. Whites wear it and we don't wail but y'all wail on our behalf cause you feel you have rights over African cultures We don't copy your culture(s). You don't really have one to be frank. You lost it centuries ago and y'all are making do with what's left and I understand We have cultures running through every arteries in us. We're are the mother of our creation. Life started in Africa. It all began with us. I live in the soil that made all mankind. I'm one with nature. I'm culture myself What can I copy from you? Whatever you have is from me. Can the book say to the tree, "you copy me?" The book is of the tree. Even the first white man is an African away from home. The first Asian is an African away from home. Do your research and learn the truth Africans are very proud of their heritage and we wear it with pride and share it to all Africans are humble and hard-working not crazy Sit down
1st. I am a Black American. My family was enslaved here and we used to own the property we were slaves on. 2nd. The term “African booty scratcher” was a term that all Black children used; I was called “African booty scratcher.” 3rd. I have Yoruban/Mende heritage. 4th. Yoruban slave traders sold us to European slavers. 5th “Akata” is a slur that means “wild animal” or “stray.” I am not your “akata.” 6th. All of that being said I embrace and respect my African heritage and African people. 7th. We created our own culture here in this wilderness call North America; our blues, jazz, hip-hop, funk, disco, country, r&b, soul speak to our pain and our journey. These musical art forms have vestiges of our original cultures from Africa. 8th. If Africa goes we go. Africa is our Mother and it is from her that we received our resiliency and strength. 9th. At the end of the day “WE” are African and this colonizer is the greatest threat to our very existence. All of the diaspora must learn each other’s histories and come together as one people. Respect ✊🏾 🇳🇬 🇸🇱🇺🇸✊🏾 BLACK FOR BLACK!!!
This entire one sided discussion jus proved Tariq right about tethers. This is why im FBA and only worry about my own. No more caping for these other groups
There should have been also africans from: east, central, southern and north part, on the panel, not just a nigerian people. As nigerians do not represent africans and africans do not think the same way. I hope this conversation continue, but on the african side, you really need to have that diversity.
I totally agree with you, I tried to diversify on the African Side as much as I could. Tagwa was the only non-west African, the others weren't all Nigerian (Ghanian and Sierre Leone)but they were all west African. I will definitely have similar panel discussions in the future and keep this in mind. Thank you for watching!
@@SAAGEWAY keep up the good work but next time have more africans from eastern, central, southern and northern too to make the conversation more interesting
@@oompaloompa3188 Yes people should give their views but like I said on the african side, it should be diverse. 2nd point north africans are africans. And if you check the map of africa, all the countries you mention is on the continent. I have many north africans friends and they do consider themselves as africans.
I guess my childhood is unique. I am African American but I was called African booty scratcher growing up too... I had friends that were Afro-Caribbean, Afro-Latin, and African. My family get along a lot with all black people but we definitely felt a divide and felt confused about it because the ONLY huge differences we had is history. The “techniques “ in raising were the similar, the thirst for your parents wanting education and comfort in living, the measures your parents take in wanting you safe, etc. the only difference is in culture and knowledge of history. The BIGGEST factor that plays in African American issues with what is essentially self-hate is history. I think people are FORGETTING that African Americans ( the descendants of African slaves brought to what is now the United States) in the USA are literally living in ignorance of their African roots UNTIL they get into their adulthood (at least that’s to be said about us up to now). The mentality is “I’m American but I just happen to be black, my parents/grandparents not from Africa so I’m not African “ the pieces of self hatred that they inflict upon black people who are different from them is LITERALLY “hurt people, HURT people”. Of course these ideas do have exception but a good majority think like that. Also factor in that there is a HUGE number of African American people born between the 1950-1980s who are the parents of today’s adults who were in foster care, illegally adopted, orphaned, children raising children, single parents home, etc who were even more ignorant to their roots because of circumstance AND lack of education and had to raise the adults of today despite anything.
This is a really weird take! Incorrect mostly! Yes there is a disconnect with our African heritage. Yes, we live in a white supremacist country & we're taught to hate ourselves, but not bc our ancestors orignated from Africa, but bc we're Black!! That whole take about us not being "raised well", wtf that means is just wrong! Idk where you got that from. THE BIGGEST issue for me is that other Black ppl from the diaspora need to stop trying to tell us where we are from & who & what we as Black Americans should feel connected to. No, we can't trace that lineage & guess what? Most of us have no desire to & it's not bc we hate the continent or its people. We just feel proud the unique, dynamic, & strong culture that we have built HERE! We're asking THAT to be respected & honored for no other reason than it's OURS! That seems to be what the rest of the diaspora fails to understand.
@@tgirl1021 I didn’t say it was because our ancestors originated from Africa I think you may have misunderstood/ misinterpreted something. Most African Americans or Black Americans as they say were ignorant of their ties to Africa. Where you’re from could be an exception but noting I said was inaccurate you can look it up or meet a lot of people from the older generations and the will tell you the same (lack of education doesn’t mean stupidity it just means that a lot of children were left to learn on their own and were misinformed) and I never said anything about black people not being raised well… I definitely agree that we are all different that why I consistently say black communities because we are all different with different cultures and nationalities but the common bond is that we are black in the United States. There is nothing wrong with our culture and I’m quite proud of what we have accomplished as a community. However the way we (not just us but also other African and African diaspora) need to do better in how we treat each other. Africans should learn how to assimilate into our culture and learn our history when they come here as we should about their cultures in order to better understand each other.
Hurt people hurt people is key. I love that. I dont LOVE that it is true of my people but it is so profound, a lot of the issue here in a nutshell. And from both sides!!!
Yo, this was informative. I come from a very eclectic family. Strong NATIVE American background, European, African an so on. I was taught to love people for who they are not where they're from. I'm always excited to come across my own. I didn't even know this was an issue until I started watching RUclips. I was never influenced by white media and have always viewed Africans like Shaka Zulu. Strong, proud and powerful. Idk much about the Zulu people but I felt proud to know that somewhere we have the same DNA. Just like the White people loveand praise other whites especially the strongest of them, I'm the same way when it comes to us. When Usane won at the Olympics I was Jamaican that day.
When I entered to USA from Africa I tried my best to communicate with Black American but It was not easy as I thought. to be honest I can communicate with white than black (I know it’s unbelievable ) & I’m 100% black Ethiopian.
Exactly, I just can't seem to connect with the African Americans, because our cultures and they way we were raised are so different. So making friends in a school that is majorly black is not easy.
That's because you has been brainwashed. I tried to connect with Ethiopians and it was just didn't work. I seem like they were afraid to connect. Plus you distance yourself from black people.
Let's make it make sense. Some of you Africans make it very hard to connect with you all. I've heard African said that we're not real africans. But my DNA says otherwise. It wasn't our fault our ancestors sold us or that we were captured. So instead of judging why don't you try to understand and teach. Africans can be very judgmental and heartless. Africans can be very arrogant. Don't nobody want to deal with that.
I really wish I could have been with this group so i could peel back the layers of misunderstanding and paint the perfect picture for the Africans who migrated here in the 90's. Its called ranking or scoring. I beg any African to ask a RANDOM African American especially the older generations in their 40's and 50's like myself "hey in your younger days did the kids rank and score on each other?" Its not a culture , its just the way American youth have fun in school - by cracking jokes on one another. I finished high school in 91 so i wasnt a part of that era. BUT I overheard a younger black American saying yeah man we were in riot of laughter at the dudes wearing high water suit pants. Africans Google PEE WEE HERMAN. Being that you guys are totally acclimated with America by now. High waters is the American slang term for pants where the leg cuffs dont reach your shoes SHOWING THE UPPER PORTION OF YOUR SOCKS - .You can SEE the hilarity in someone coming to school like Pee Wee Herman in the 90's early Internet age. Lastly there's one more extremely important thing to note. African Americans we have the term BLACKITY BLACK BLACK. No other African takes more pride in being BLACK than us. We didnt start taking pride in being African after Wakanda thats preposterous! We had the back to Africa MOVEMENT in the 1930s. W.E.B Dubois was the first PHD black man to finish at Harvard in Africana studies. In 70's dashikis became a big trend i can go on but i'll end it here. Misinformation and misinterpretation is the cause of our division
I agree, but I feel the younger generation lacks the same respect and love for Africa/Africans than the older generations from the 1900s. I feel like most black Americans today are completely different than the ones in the 1900s in my opinion
Nobody in Africa takes time to accept they’re Black because it ain’t their identity you fool, we identify as our tribes and nationality and we love our culture so why should they identify as a colour? You people are so lost it’s sad
I was born FULLY AA but my mom and dad split when I was young. She married a Liberian man and I grew up with so much African (Liberian) culture around me… I almost wanna say it was a healing experience in a way - because though I don’t know what region my real ancestors were from, I still got to experience the culture at home. My AA husband and children love the stews and swallows and dishes that I make to carry that culture on in our family. Unfortunately though, the Liberian part of the family wasn’t always so nice and welcoming to my mom (particularly the women) because she was American. And my dad used to make a lot of negative connotations towards our African American culture… I don’t think it was out of hate, but we all have our preconceived notions whether we admit it or not. I’m 30 now so this was way before Black Panther Overall, I think most AA’s have a part of them that yearns a connection to home ❤
One made comment here "how can be African and don't know history about African American". they are a lot of African American who doesn't know about African history too, everything we know based with education we have or based with individual self need to know. A lot of African do know that all black people in the world original came from Africa how they gets to whenever some African know some don't know.
But one group is migrating to America in substantial numbers not the other way around. That’s like a Black American moving to Ghana and not knowing shit about the history there but expecting a Ghanaian to be thoroughly educated about them.
@@mam9475 Exactly! And Ghanaians don’t know Nigerian history, Kenyan’s don’t know Zimbabwean history but African Americans are suppose to know about everybody history. 🙄 I hear this madness all the time.
Someone should talk about what being black in America is like they systematically try and destroy your blackness there's so many things even in the house hold , it's gets alot deeper
This was definitely a topic that needed to be covered. Thanks for giving it a voice.
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Im a black American theres a disconnection because of education they dont teach us african history besides Egypt they don't teach us about nubia and the Mali empire there so much history thats not being taught so we dont know we are embracing our african heritage because we are learning now the world is changing
Exactly they only teach us about slavery.
@@jim-fq6fv but you can use internet 🤨
@Natasha Luo Yes because buying plane tickets are as easy as catching a bus.
You should take it upon yourself to teach the things that the white washed school system won’t teach us as fucked up as that sounds but it’s a fact that the history of minorities is getting suppressed
@@jim-fq6fv I want to ask this question to Africans know that the term slavery came from Eastern Europeans I bet you they don't know this they know that the kkk are direct descendants of the Knight Templars are the founders of Freemasonry and created of the banking system that we got today do they know about that you bet they do they are too afraid to touch that even the black church no one speak about this we as a people we got to be honest about ourselves even white people got to be honest about this but they got all explaining to do about this
I am Nigerian and I've never lived abroad so this is what I think. Africans and African Americans are very different. First off Africans within themselves are very different, this is a whole continent, Nigerians and Ghanaians are as different as the Moon and stars, talk less of East Africans and West Africans before you even talk about Africans as a whole and African Americans. Another thing I think people forget is the American in African American, and the African in Africans. in my opinion African Americans are more American than they are African for obvious historical reasons. Culture, identity, socialisation, ethics and values are a lot more rooted in nationality than skin color and facial features. So in essence an African American is going to have the same level of culture shock as their other American counterparts in Africa. And an African will have the same level of culture shock in America as an Asain born and bred in Asia. Infact it's quite common to see differences in socialisation and ways of thinking with other groups like Europeans and European Americans, Asians and Asains Americans and the same is true for Africans and African Americans. It is also important to note that different does not equal superior it just means not completely the same and yes we share the same ancestry that's pretty much where it ends, everything else that we know or have to know about each other, we will have to unlearn, learn and relearn it.
Now, for the things causing the divide, I really agree with the Sudanese girl, there are very negative stereotypes about one another caused by media and Africans who go to America also assimilate into these narratives because I personally don't think African parents hold strong negative ideas of Africans Americans. It's not a thing at least here in Nigeria for parents to send their children abroad and tell them specifically not to hang out with African Americans, so as someone who has lived in Nigeria all my life that was new to hear, but I stand to be corrected. Hence when both people interact it's most likely not a pleasing experience especially because we like to think we are the same hence we should be better to each other than others races are to us and this leads to my second point.
Thinking were are the same and not being able to respect how we are different is one of the causes of the divide. I think that's where that African Americans don't have culture comment comes from. There are Africans who really think that Africans and African Americans are the same people and believe that AA should understand or show the same level of cultural awareness as an African child and when they don't as they should, the Africans see it as a problem. For instance in many Nigerian ethnicities respect based on seniority is such a huge deal that even when it borders on bullying and abuse of power people still expect the younger ones to always concede to the elder. It's complete bullshit and some of this elderly Nigerians go to America or the UK and expect that black kids from these areas must respect them the same way they are respected back home,they go about demanding respect cause their old and running down young people thinking it's going to be the same as it back home. It's utter madness I tell you.
There other issues that are also enlarging this divide, especially on social media, there was this clubhouse where an AA was talking about how Africans are stealing their jobs and shit and Nigerians did not hesitate to go off on them.
I do hope though that we get along as people really, other races don't give a fuck about anyone if your not white. So if there's anyone who should stand for each other it's people of African descent.
I appreciate and agree with a lot of your words here especially the part about us expecting better from each other Bc we think we are the same. I am AA and can recall many times I was wronged by what I thought was other African Americans only to later realized I was being outcast Bc I am African American. The interesting part was AA saying Africans are stealing our jobs. There’s an article where are as governor boldly states they hire Africans over African Americans to watch over African Americans …. And even more Indian, Arab, and Chinese employers have stated they prefer to hire Africans over African Americans for many reasons including stereotypes but the thing they mentioned that stood out was that Africans don’t fight and aren’t always seeking change. I think that comment sheds light to what the issue truly is. AA are/were breaking this system down one stone at a time! Now our efforts are coming to a slow Bc our voices are being drowned out by the systems preference which is immigrant! Those unaware of how this place truly operates. Those unaware of how america uses citizens against each other to maintain power and oppression. Hopefully these convos will shed light so that both sides can be more intentional in the moves they make.
It wouldn't have been that way if our own people didn't sell us. So instead of pointing out the differences and a lot of Africans get mad because African-Americans want to know that roots. Why don't you guys teach us. Why don't you guys show us. You got Africans saying that African-American aren't real africans. It's not our fault we ended up in America. If our ancestors didn't sell us for tobacco and stuff that was accessible. A lot of African-Americans want to go back to their roots. Getting DNA test to find out what African tribes they are from. Teach us.
@@lovelove-pr2yo I don't know how true it is that Africans get mad because AA want to know their roots, why would they be annoyed by that, if that has an atom of truth then thats absolutely ridiculous. However if you want to learn whatever it is you want to learn some of these African countries have programs targeted for African descendants in diaspora. Like Ghana has a Right of Abode policy that allows African descendants in diaspora to stay in Ghana indefinitely, and there's also so many Year of return, door of return intiatives, usually done by west african countries to help people reconnect with their ancenstry. At the end of the day the best way to go about it is to live within the society. And if thats too much then RUclips could also suffice.
@@idaraudoh2808 Wow, very interesting and good insights. BTW, so sorry if this is weird, not my intention, but I'm Nigerian-American and I know someone with the exact same name as you, no lie. Do you live in California, or have you lived there before if I may ask? Or is it just a common name that I'm not realizing?
@@idaraudoh2808I am a black American male. Born and raised in Philadelphia in a neighborhood that was mixed black and white. Education with a degree in mathematics and a military veteran. Just like Africans are different, so are blacks throughout the United States and the Caribbean. I graduated High School in 1983 and went to college in California. That was a culture shock because blacks on the west coast and east coast are very different. Blacks in the south are very different. And black Americans have also been taught to hate themselves throughout the history of this country. So throughout the years there has been many phases we as blacks have embraced. Black power, and pan African ideology as well. We in America have been taught by white to hate skin color meaning dark vs light skin. We as blacks in America are still recovering from a lot of the mental trauma we have suffered from slavery and oppression. So within the entire experience with slavery in America and colonialism in Africa we have come a long way. However I will say that the majority of blacks in America is learning so much more about our motherland and the difference cultures within the African continent. We are much more educated about Africa and the knowledge is steadily increasing. But we have been shut off from the truth about Africa intentionally and have been fed stereotypes about Africa just like Africans have been fed stereotypes about us.
This is a long-overdue topic that needed to be brought up!
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I just don’t understand how it’s “offensive” when kids grow up, apologize for their ignorant ways and begin to learn and connect with their roots. How is that offensive?
Because when you're a child this is the most important part of your psychological development and the scars, trauma you experience at this time will follow you until your death bed. This is a studied psychological phenomena and not only happens to humans, but animals as well.
But there is hope with discussion and to be aware of those trauma to heal them :)
@@Angell_Lee so basically it doesn’t matter if we apologize for our faults and actively learn our roots...it’s still not going to be enough. It’s still going to offend
@@terrasaidit Yes it matters and it's great! I'm just saying the scars and where this divide comes might be from childhood and this is why it's good to have those conversation. To not repeat the same mistake for upcoming generation. :)
@@Angell_Lee ahh ok ok I understand what you’re saying. I personally have never done that, I’m AA but I’ve definitely seen it done to others and even as a little girl I never thought it was right
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your conversation lacked the real issues that create the so called "difference" you guys should listen to Kwame Nkurumah, Gaddafi, Kagame, President Mkapa and Malcom X they had this conversation but on the real issues
Also we cannot assume that all Black Americans view African cultures as a trend because there are a lot of Black Americans who are want to learn and educate themselves about African cultures but I feel as though some Africans are being too hostile and not giving Black Americans a chance.
As an African I think the issue is that AAs to many Africans have made fun of them just as much as white people, if not more. And also that AAs are constantly claiming to be Israelites or places they’re not actually from. And the ones that know there ethnicity is African act is if Africans are the same as Americans. And Africans aren’t just going to pretend we’re the same just because we’re black. But I would say for me personally, I respect when AAs are proud of them being American and just want to learn about their ancestors, and not try to claim a culture that they don’t presently belong in.
That’s just an excuse. Why let a few people from a group stop you from learning about your culture?
Don't listen to them. Explore what draws you in. Gatekeeping things from people who look like you is ridiculous 🙄 We Africans, some though not most, love Black American culture. I'm not ashamed that I grew up listening to old skool RnB by folks like Jill Scott, Brandy, Whitney Houston etc. They are loved here. So it'd be nice if you guys wanted to explore our culture and our music too.
I WANT AFRICAN AMERICANS TO LEARN THEIR AFRICAN CULTURE
We got are own culture we dont care
This reminds me so much of Teen Summit on BET. I miss conversations such as these. Thanks so much for this video!
What a great intelligent, respectful, and authentic dialogue between individuals of the African Diaspora.
This was a really interesting discussion!
I grew up around some Nigerians and met people from Cameroon and Kenya some of the coolest people
I'm a Black Zambian millennial woman and this conversation resonated and I love that y'all are having these needed and honest conversations!Thank you all for your perspectives.
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I really don’t understand how you can be in America and not know the history of black Americans!!! That must be an immigrant thing. A lot of African millennial/ gen-z immigrants need to RUclips or google “Black American clothing style 1970” or RUclips episodes of 1970~soul train, watch black panther rallies, watch episodes of good times, the Jeffersons or ‘1990~ A different world (tv show), Kid N Play (movie) google pictures of tribe called quest, Africa Bambata (rap/hiphop group)!! Dashiki’s, Kinta cloth and other African clothing was the trend of those times!!! Wearing African dashiki is nothing new!! Y’all are literally half a century late (50 years). My dashiki came from my grandparents house that they’ve had since 1970!!! So to be mad at us wearing dashiki literally makes no sense!! ( even though I understand how y’all were made fun of which was not right 🙅🏿♂️) It’s new to black immigrants who come here but it’s definitely not new to our culture as black Americans/Americans.
A lot of Africans around my age Uses the term African American/black American when identifying there background not realizing that the congressional black caucus (CBC) in congress came up with that term in the 1990s for black Americans who are slave descendants from Africa!! That is literally the meaning of the term just google it. Those who choose to come to America are “suppose” to identify with there country of origin (specifically if you’ve immigrant here since 1900 that’s what the census 2020 states) such as Irish-American, British-American, Nigerian-American, Chinese-American, Mexican-American etc.
Great job you guys 🤟🏿
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The African booty scratcher was pure colorism that started during the baby boomer-Gen-X generation 1960-1980. Africans don’t realize that it had nothing to do with them.. all they heard was the African part & they started crying
There will ALWAYS be a disconnect because we are simple 2 completely different people🎯
Yaa perfectly explained. This is a much needed dialogue and even though it can get uncomfortable it is needed
Africans are heavily influenced by Black American culture yet some Africans tend to deny it.
I’d say, style wise, and hip hop wise yes. But other than that Africans have Afro beats. You also have to remember whatever white Americans or black Americans publicize is mainstream to the rest of the world.
@@Usthereout hair too...they relax their hair...they dress like us ...suits and all
@@usedbyjesus suits aren't cultural, and like I said, American casual wear is global.
@@usedbyjesus Lmao I hope you know some african tribes used to do so way before
Suits are cultural ...they were dressing in tribal wear even Asians dressed cultural wear before suits became a thing in China etc. Suits are western white folk American or UK ...we can look at photos and see what Africans where wearing so don't say it's not cultural cause that's a lie
My cousins when they first moved there were hella bullied by mostly black Americans because of their accents
Ok
Kids will bully everyone that is different. I was adopted and was mercilessly bullied for it.
I'm no longer African American I'm Black Americans my experience with Africans made me take African off I'm Black American. Its where I'm born that's what I'm accounted for. I'm glad I was born here and proud of my ancestors for there contributions to my life ❤.
So Africans aren't black?
Lol
@@eliasnestor9482 nope
I'm also African but many of black people in America aren't even from Africa anyway , your ancestors are the native Americans (Indians )
@@king_koby9591 I agree. I can only trace my ancestors back to pre-nation America. I believe we were enslaved in our own land. Then some African slaves mixed with my ancestors and the white man labeled us as all belonging to the same group
I think its contradicting for Africans to think They are isolated and not loved ect ;Then when black Americans finally do embrace the culture they are offended and saying black americans are culture vultures. Pick a side lol 🤷🏽♂️
I mean it quite dishonest make fun of a culture and wanted to ambrassent it, why are you doing now
@@iravonde247 maybe when they were kids . Kids do immature stuff. But all the black Americans that’s grown embrace Africa. Wakanda 4Ever 🙅🏽♂️
@@WadeInTheWater23 naa bro not all of the BA’s. I have seen derogatory comments from BA’s on social media. It still happens bro.
I live in Africa and when people here see others practice their culture they're actually happy and proud of they're culture they don't get offended , those who are talking about the whole culture vulture thing are probably not even African , or just hypocrites , many Africans don't even practice African culture enough to be mad when others do it instead
They did pick a side and its the side of white supremacy.
Came here during the Africans vs African Americans War on Twitter.
Lol a war on twitter? Regarding what?
Why is there even a war it makes no sense
@@kaynel4941 Its still funny 💀
@@fromasgardwithlove2257 What was it about?
Wow I never knew this since this is my only social media platform. I bet the white people are having a field day laughing at all the ignorance. Make no mistake, they are laughing at us all.
I remember being in college and having an African student get offended that the professor referred to me as African American . She literally voiced her to opinion to the professor stating that I was not African because I was not born in Africa. I was caught off guard by this because Italians, Irish, Cuban, Dominicans, etc...all come to America and their descendants can state that they're Italian American, Irish American, Cuban American and etc... but according to this student, somehow, I did not qualify. It was as if because my ancestors were brought here by force that and enslaved, we were not worthy of claiming our ancestral heritage. Thanks to DNA testing, I know what tribe my ancestors belong to and where they're at in West Africa and even how my people have ties to Lebanon.
Great video!
thank you so much for watching!
Yaaa you are a beautiful gem that explained it perfectly
Black Panther actors didnt pronounce the words right i mean couldnt they look for a Xhosa guy to speak in Xhosa coz the moment you mispronounce the language the words change meaning
Yeah. I'm South African and looking back on the film they butchered the pronunciation.
Ofcourse they were going to misprononounce a language they've never spoken before but they did better than many white south africans i know and yes they did have 2 xhosa speaking people in the movie!!
Their accents sounded more western African than south African.
@@sia8974 most were of western descent
@@omartistry There are AA actors, it does not matter if there are of western African descent . This stereotypes Africans & why could they not do Southern African accent?
I’m African American & Native American and my experience with a lot of Africans from Africa is that they seem very jealous of African Americans once they realize that we all aren’t ghetto and uneducated & lazy like they believe, they come here assuming everyone black is like what they see on TV , & that’s not exactly how all black people live some of us are just as educated as they are & live in gated communities and not from the ghetto’s or hood & they have a issue with trying to associate Us as not what they have been taught through white society and white washed TV .
Africans are not jealous of aa thats most definitely not the case ,as far as we are concerned we are the ones that take samples of African creator and try and turn it to our own, the things AA are so proud pf originated from Africa ,like the features or the hairstyles or the music African women are known for the big butts and big lips ,they are known for creating the hairstyles made so big today like the buntu knots or the basic box braids that famous AA wear today ,even the music like Shakira song Waka waka was a sample stolen from a underrated African band or Beyonce her self has take many samples herself without credit, everything originated in Africa but just because someone like Beyonce wear or did it was made to seem like it came from America
Do your research before calling Africans jealous
@@tshepisomello6521 You are talking about appropriation of certain aspects of culture while whites are presently on your continent stealing everything they can carry back to the west. This African/Black American ado is a waste of time. Our oppressor has us at each others throat talking about who feels how about whom. Who cares? Where he is concerned all of us are the same. Getting him off our necks should be our aim and to hell with who said what about whom. Leave your feelings at home because the world at large doesn't give a damn about them. If it did it would rid itself of all the misery in it. Let's start getting together, strategizing, doing business deals, working on ways to deal with our affairs free of the west, start respecting each other, start developing our own economy, and above all stop hating ourselves and those like us. Black anywhere in the world and with few exceptions you have no friends except each other. Now this octogenarian soon to be, in about two years, a nonagenarian will close. My best to all of you.
Am very shocked for some hate u have on same person's of color,,,, better white friend.
@@RUclips-KE What in the world are you talking about? What's wrong with strategizing together, doing business deals, working on ways to free ourselves of the west, respecting each other, developing our own economy, and stopping self hatred? Is your reference to my post? I have no hatred towards anyone black or white. I am a black American male octogenarian widower and know that of which I speak. For what it's worth to whom are you referring with the term "people of color?"
Host Africans who only go abroad to study or just to work not only these who have grown up there and have never set a foot in Africa for years... mix them up and you will get the perfect answers you need. All the differences will be seen.
We can’t even get along with ourselves (blacks) or respect each other’s culture,yet we want other races to treat us with respect 🙄🙄
Facts. I’ve faced way more racism, hate comments, racial slurs, comments about my hair (I have natural hair) from other black people, especially women, than I have ANY other group
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We not yo family
Or are you African American or just African Because we different people
we dont love you.
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We all niggas tho 😂😂😂 if you don’t like it then change your color to green
This video is a bit bias. You have an entire panel of Africans but only about 3 AA? Good content but you all need to grow up and experience life more outside of college.
Thank you for watching! Just a conversation amongst friends we know we have a lot to learn, but I think there is still value in sharing conversations amongst young people, especially young black people. Thanks again for watching
I think you need to know 3 AAs is much. Africa is not a country, it’s a continent with like 51 countries, USA is one country so ...
Yes extremely bias. They know what they are doing
@@asmrbiking5900 This was statement bias. Can you see that?
How many African Americans do you need to represent the single African American culture, and how many Africans would you need to represent the majority of a black continent with so many countries with varied cultures?
Love how my name sake and country man Josh carried himself attending to questions..
I feel all that’s sparking this issue
Is just scarce opportunities
Scare resources
Lift up each other and learn to share
While being realistic of the changing times we facing
Feel like some Africans want clout from having these discussions because I dont understand when you say yo grown parents talked bad about us but kids saying childish remarks is the worst part idk I've been hearing the same thing mention but I'm American and I've been judged at school as well seem like a agenda to me extreme jealousy nobody bold enough to admit
They were literally taught by their parents to avoid us.
I don't know any African American parents saying to avoid Africans. These conversations never come up because Africans numbers are small and thus irrelevant to how be live our lives.
There is no jealousy from us africans theres nothing to be jealous about ,the same fact is you guys call yourself african American but know nothing about your Africa, 🤣first example black panther 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣what was that ,now u can ask any Americans to name a country in Africa and they will say wakanda ,pathetic rlly😂
Yeah I think it's a sneaky sinister way of emotional abuse and bullying on their part.
After this topic, then you all should think of how Africa Americans and African can produced engine of cars, aeroplane engine, so we can be economically free.
I want to get in on this conversation!
Part 2 of our discussion :
ruclips.net/video/nGhk9I-ibaQ/видео.html
quality content, this is important stuff
Justin Mapp agreed ✊🏾be on the lookout for part 2
Ive known african americans and africans were different since middle school. Every year i met a new african from nigeria or kenya and they were always so polite and studious, being able to attend a school in the us might be a factor, but my school was known for being ghetto so idk
Touchy topic, I’ve only noticed the disconnect this past year... I didn’t understand it but I do know that most people from other black cultures have black Americans, I understand some of the reasons why but I don’t understand the life long grudge and some of the stereotypes against all of us...
Thank you for coming together and sharing a most important topic. First I'd like to say I believe if you all have NOT heard the rap song from the 80s "Africa" by Doug E Fresh you should. It allows you the understanding a lot of African Americans dealt with, back in the day regarding Africa/ Africans. Second, there is ignorance about us and our history that is prevalent among African Americans and Africans. Many African Americans don't have knowledge from an early age about their history I was fortunate my Mother explained it to me. Also, I was privileged to travel, out of the country, in my teens and that broadened my horizons. Many are not able to have that experience. Often times when having a negative encounter with someone, the first thing we look at is the race/ culture of that person. That needs to stop. There are good and bad in all people and that person you encountered was a bad person. The issue is, in my opinion, we will forever be separated if we continue to dwell on the negativity instead of trying to learn and embrace more about each other. Thank you.
Learn you're I would rather be ignorant than and idiot. If my mother came from africa or my father, then I'm africa American. 4 - 5 hundred years ago, my ancestors came from Africa. Example African Jamaican. I love being American. All the heart ship of slavery didn't kill it made us strong. Understanding who you are is not the only important thing that matters. I am a child of
A child of GOD made to do his work. I pray in JESUS name. AMEN
The give respect to get respect is all fine and dandy BUT it goes both ways...
Good debate..I’m an African from Cameroon, living in Finland..I love my African culture as well as I love African American culture because at the end of the day, we are all blacks. I have never been to America but hopefully, I’ll visit one day. I think there are some aspects that are causing the division, not even that of culture. The main aspect here is ignorance.. Many whites and many African Americans still see Africa as a jungle that’s why it’s easy to label Africans as “African booty scratcher” or what so ever people call Africans. Africans on the other hand, were raised with good morals and our parents value education a lot. That’s why they tell us to stay away from African Americans who are lazy, and I’ve got too much feeling of entitlement but however, that is also ignorant because not all African Americans are like that.. I believe as an adult, you just got to be able decide who’s good company or not, no matter what their race or culture is.. So from my point of view it’s got nothing to do with culture, but pure ignorance and unconsciousness..
This is deep.
I was honestly expecting Africans on the table as well all the same good video
These conversations are happening because we are getting closer together. These conversations need to happen even if some of them are uncomfortable. The African and the African American must become one.
I wish you would go more in depth about how Africans treat African Americans ...they can be arrogant and say rude stuff like ...once they find out you are American they will say things like oh your ppl are the ppl who don't know where you are from
But AA are also rude towards africans.
Hello Nikki, I hope you are well. I happen to be an African in America and before I came to the US, I sort of thought that we were almost the same people save for a few differences. I can't write a lot but I have studied and interviewed my fellow Africans about what they think of black america. Sad thing, is the average black american knows just about nothing to do with Africa and that's where the separation starts.
For example, I will tell you that the average African immigrant will most surely avoid settling in a majority black neighborhood...that's at least in the state am in and they have reasons for that, some of which may be obvious to you. Please note that I said...African Immigrant NOT African American as the two are or maybe a different people. You are African American if you still can trace your African heritage and more likely born in the US and you are Black American if you can't.
There is a lot more I could tell you but generally speaking, Africans and Black Americans are totally different. Maybe to address the issue of how Africans treat Black Americans, I will briefly say this.....Its quite deep.
@@lennykay5392 African American was a term founded and given to us blacks who ancestors came over here to America via slavery....it's not for immigrants...I know only what I see and research about Africa...You all are African but not African American if you from Africa or ppl from directly from Africa...African American immigrants...to differentiate the two terms...
Because Africa countries are so far away and takes at least 24hrs I don't think I will ever go there plus I am not fond of poisonous reptiles or a safari trip...but I am sure it's plenty of beautiful places in Africa many countries. I will keep my behind here lol lordwilling and stay away from states in USA that have that stuff too lol
@@lennykay5392 I just think it's sad that if it wasn't for the African Americans ancestors who helped us get this freedom you all would not enjoy none and I mean NONE of the luxuries or rights you get of being in America Education sports freedom of religion food clothes homes job benefits right to vote..they had to fight , die , take all types of abuse for us to get the luxuries or rights we can get now...so just appreciate that...and what you all do for us in Africa ...you all had apartheid but blks vs blks having massacres ...you all not as free as us ..you all did not fight as hard as us YES U ALL FOUGHT but the outcome far as governments are two different..Africa government suck badly ..we fought hard and still fighting ...to get where we are so other blks such African American born and raised in America plus blk ppl around the world can enjoy...but you all don't appreciate it.
@@usedbyjesus it's without doubt that the American black community has made a lot of sacrifices however let's not close our eyes and pretend...Africans and black Americans are two different people and not similar at all. Their similarity just about starts and ends with the skin tone and it ends there.
Love the editing!!!
Uh where's part 2? We needed to see all of this.
ruclips.net/video/nGhk9I-ibaQ/видео.html
Only person who tried to see both side of the penny was Tagwa .
"Difference in the way they carry themselves". Indeed, my Nigerian, Jamaican and African friends experienced serious culture shock when they came into contact with American Blacks.
Hmm I find that there is a prejudice against AA, a very resilient people ( might I remind you). Africans wouldnt even be allowed to into this country if it wasnt for African AMericans and the fight they put up. Next, I remember a Jamaican hairdresser talking about how lazy African Americans were.. She said this knowing that she was a hair dresser and I had an MBA in finance working for an investment bank.. LOL.. Go Figure.. I was like heifer are you really saying this nonsense with a straight face when I am in an entirely different socieconomic tier than you.. SMH
I said the same thing when I went to Africa. Does that make it true? Nope, just was in rough parts. Educate yourself or step out more
@@prettynerd4779 Africans were attending colleges in America in the 1930s , what are u talking about ?
@@diogomate940 And AA have been fighting for Freedom and equal rights since the 1700s, what are YOU talking about...
@@prettynerd4779 so were native americans
Thats that stuff right there
14:56 yall that is LITERALLY what my father told me...
As a white American, I never realized there was so much tension between Africans Americans and Black Americans. You could cut the tension in this room with a knife. Very interesting, and informative debate. I learned that I need to learn allot more about Black/African culture, and the struggles faced. Bless whoever has read this comment. May we come together, and embrace our differences. Peace be with you and your family.
Thank you for watching! Really glad you took something away from it.
He didn't cut any tension ..he could HV put some Africans in it
Black Americans are African Americans
@@christianmacaulay2806 there are africans but they said they were african american lmao... that term needs to change to ADOS cos too many african immigrants call themselves african american
How often are you talking to your white family, friends and community about race?
You all to young understand African American experience. Get some older AA like me 62 and older who really experience segregation, lynching
Thank you for watching and commenting, you're perspective and others in your age range are definitely valuable and need to be heard. With all do respect I'm not understanding how experiencing segregation and lynching first hand correlates with the essence of our conversation here about the cultural and social disconnect between africans and african americans. I don't think we are too young at all, if you are black in america...you're black in america. The same systems that stripped you of your rights and humanity when you were our age still exist, they just look different and the systems got smarter. Yes we know racism isn't as blatantly violent and extreme as it was back in your young adulthood, but we are still black adults..I think we have lived and seen enough to be able to have a conversation about our experience even if it doesn't necessarily look like our grandparent's experience. We fighting for our grandchildren to have a better experience too. Thank you again for watching
Barrett Miller II but YOU aren’t ADOS, you said you had a Caribbean background. The difference is chattel slavery, Jim Crow, the Black codes, the great migration. Coming from a group of ppl that were forced here and did not willfully come here with a clear agenda. Ppl will pull the “we are all Black” card like we are all the same when it suits them. I know several ppl who are half Carribean and half Black American and they disregard and look down on their Black American side.
I live in Atlanta, USA, Georgia. This is precisely why I promote Africa in the way that I do wherever I can. I call it, 'The Africa You Won't See On TV.' I grew up with Tarzan and the like. But I always knew there had to be more, even as a child. And there is more. Much much more to Africa than we're taught. We have to go and learn the truth of the Motherland, the Continent, because it is absolutely amazing! Now, I'm all in love with East Africa, especially Uganda. And South Africa is WOW! This is getting long, so I'll end by simply saying . . . the only real difference there is between us is the distance between us. amani ndani. amani nje. Peace in. Peace out. L
The difference is cultural. That's it! The trauma these young Africans experienced was based on the ignorance of AA youth. No conscious intelligent adult will call their brothers and sisters "African Booty Scratcher". We are not a monolith. There are levels to this. We as a people are divided due to tribalism and other schisms. We all have identity issues due to Colonization. Whether its French, English, German, Portuguese or Arabic. Tribalism under the colonization of these nations has us confused as a people. Our masters have succeeded in their plan to divide and conquer.
@Natasha Luo Your Asian.. lol stay out of this..lord knows what Asians are doing in Africa is a WHOLE OTHER CONVERSATION!
So its okay for them to call us Akatas but when they get called African booty scratcher. We are wrong. You respect us we will respect you period.
@@postmastersgt1670 you're right. There's ignorance throughout the diaspora.
The truth is all darkskin people was called that not just foreigners
i would say its the ignorance of Americans in general
13:37 Foundational Black Americans have ALWAYS HAD LOVE for our African siblings
💗💗💗
There were black people already here before they brought other blacks in have you watched a show called The Roots
@@demaification No, the "blacks" that were in the US are Native Americans, and they're not "black". The Africans brought over are the "Black" ones. Africans and Native Americans are not from the same race, so stop calling both of them "Black". African Americans descend from Africans, not Native Americans, altough they might have a little, N.A. ancestry, that makes them more African.
@@raphrobe-9896 I know they're not black I'm just saying we already been over here way before other people coming in that's all I'm saying
Sadly the love is one sided. We should love ourselves first and we don't.
American culture is Black/#ADOS culture. You came here, to our country. #WeBuiltThis
How was the compensation
@@theblackgods4699 The compensation is lacking, 'tis why we are fighting for our #Reparations.
Where did u run from?
@@lpitd16
Grow up and get a job
@@itsbeyondme5560 I am a middle-aged gainfully employed, degreed professional. American Descendants of US Chattel Slavery are owed TRILLIONS by our government. Be well.
@@lpitd16
Explain...how the government is going to pay? who is free slaves or not? Stop being stupid and see the reality. Stop being too racial
I think that alot of people need to listen to the song and see the video of ( we are the world) "and really really get the meaning of the song"and look at all of the people in the video "and what culture that they are."they gave us the message along time ago.and alot of them aren't with us today.( The music is telling the story of each one of us "because we all love certain songs and certain music that gives us the feeling of love or hate.
My thing is, we are individuals. I have been stereotyped as an African but will I make blanket statements that will end up making me hate a population of 10m+???
They are just speaking for the camera's....why do you not get Local Africans to speak. these kids grew up in America, so obviously they are exposed to the American ways of life..
Tru!
We are Black Americans not African American. You are African American not us
Why don't you think Americans who have African descent can call themselves "African Americans"? (I agree with you by the way just want to you to expand on why you think that)
@@SAAGEWAY lol why claim something you aren't apart of
Speak for yourself.....you don't speak for me.
Because we didn't come from Africa. No disrespect.
@@morganmorgan884 y’all descendants of African People 🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️ you can’t be serious right now. You don’t have to literally live in Africa to know this........
As an Amerikkkan born (FBA) who happens to be black, I never understood why Africans looked down on American blacks. The audacity!! Didn't African tribal Kings sell their own brethren to slave traders across the world for commodities? The white and Arabs didn't do this alone. And why has every mother country fought against Amerikkka except for the Continent of Africa??? KOREA, MEXICO, JAPAN, etc. All fought against Amerikkka but not Africa. The only African hero I know of is Shaka Zulu. But I do know Malclom X, Muhummad Ali, Micheal Jackson and other great black Amerikkkans. When I see Africa I see a place always being exploited and being robbed blind with no resistance, unlike the Indians who fought to the death instead of being enslaved. This is why the Indians, not Africans, are respected for their do-or-die bravery.
I think they are missing something. I am African American born and raised here. I was talked about and ridiculed growing up. I was ridiculed about my lips and gap between my teeth, my own people. Some of the panelists mention that they was criticize about being African is grade school. The reason you were criticized was because of self hate not because of where u came from. I am a product of my enslaved ancestors and I was criticized. I am 49 yrs old and I was raised to respect my elders and authority. These days kids are not raised like I was. We have adopted this white culture because we live here. It's kind forced upon you. You can't discipline your kids like you use too with the fear of going to jail or losing your kids. Black Americans my age or older were raised like an African household. Respect in the household was a must.
African parents are just conservative. I'm a Cameroonian living in Germany and the one thing my parents always told me is : don't bring us a white girl at home (meaning we dont want you to marry a white girl). And that's totally fine because we have a very high sense in continuing the lineage and keeping it clean. To be even more precise I come from the west part of Cameroon and my parents wouldn't want me to marry a girl from any other region. So that's far their conservatism goes . Its nothing against other black or white people , it's just for the sake of the lineage
I can understand that, but if a white parent say the same thing you know what its comming right?
@@kikebautista2110 well , I can understand that some people might not like it but even in Cameroon this way of thinking can cause a lot of family issues . It still ok to me
@@kingkunta07 Its not that I dont understand it. If you think that way its ok. My issue is that many things that a black person do or say would be consider racist if its a white person doing or saying the same thing. English its not my first language, I dont know if In explaining myself properly.
@@kikebautista2110 I understand what you are saying and they would call it racism the same way people who do not agree with my parents views would call it tribalism.
yeah true
The REAL Black Panthers were Black American. Period.
@Al Person Most of those people you name lived the Black American life and literally had only one parent that was West Indian. Malcolm X didn't know shit about the Island and most of those others didn't either.
@Al Person how is that our fault...lol we were trying to get rid of our difficulties just being African Americans and trying to be seen as equal let alone help the African immigrant..who ancestor in some helped the white man bring us over here
@@usedbyjesus the argument of african selling their own to the white man has got to cease. You really need to go deeper into educating yourself about this subject but for that you need to have a basic grasp at historical geopolitics. First of all, Africa can fit the US, half of europe, China and India altogether so be sure there would have been at least a few tribes willing to do dirty for survival. It's the same as the few of ours ones that sell cracks to their own family and neighbors in america. But the number of africans involved in the slave business were insignificant compared to the rest of the population. Secondly, most slaves sold were war-captives and back in the day, one could exchange war-captives for mostly military-related goods and services. That was just basic warfare practice ALL ACROSS THE WORLD, every human people have done that. War-captives were still treated humanly in Africa and could even become part of the royal family sometimes. So these people who offered war-captives in exchange of bonuses had no idea of what happened next. There'a a lot more to cover but that alone should give you a different vantage point on the matter and show you how much more you have to learn before making easy statements like you did. I used to think like you, but I met a lot of africans that were willing to guide me towards reliable ressources.
@@usedbyjesus Not all African coubtries were involved in the triangular slave trade. Don't direct your bitterness about being sold into slavery to all the Africans.
Sierra Leone girl was on point. Brave and critical thinking.
Its interesting that the young lady at about 5:41 says ignorance from their parents, urging them not to branch out and stick with their own kind.
Some of this is dishonest. The one girl said you have to give respect to get respect yet most African parent they’ll their children to stay away from AA. There is a video on RUclips of a Nigerian woman saying that people have “ the talk” BEFORE coming to America on how to view AA. What kind of energy is a person giving off to an AA person if before they even came to America they viewed AA’s in a bad light? I’m from D.C. which has substantial Nigerian and Ethiopian populations and both groups on a collective level don’t associate with AA’s.
to be fair its not like the black community is particularly something you want your kids to partake in ... coming from a country of poverty to a place where u can get killed for wearing the wrong colors ... i mean come on man dont act oblivious to point of that talk
It’s the media it fucked up the AA image
I'm also African and was told not to associate with AA's but (and this is just personal experience) I probably wouldn't have associated with those kids at school anyways because they made fun of me for being African. There are issues on both sides and its really sad.
@@stanzre but you have no problem coming here period, and despite what you think of the Blacks in america, the dominant race has done much worse to black people in general, but you don't give your children the talk about them, in fact many of you crave their attention. That's phoniness.
@@Browngerl what African is craving for attention from AA Africans come here to excel and hopefully be able to go back home and built something
I do not think there is no disconnect between Africans and African - Americans per say. The differences are based more on cultural aspects. Africa is not a country, it is a continent. Africans come in all hues, colors, not all Africans are « Black » as we understand in America. There are quite a few Africans who would be seen as « White » in America. Africans as other immigrants can also fall in the « racial » trap which portrays Blacks as « bad ». Nevertheless the vast majority of African immigrants don’t fall for it.
Oscar was on point the word different is exactly what started the separation and Africans are the ones who say it. Caribbean’s to
Agree
Even Africans themselves are also different....
Do a DNA test on an African and Black American. We are different down to that level. There are assumptions based on media misrepresenting how either group moves through society. Even amongst black Americans there is a difference despite the attempts to generalize our backgrounds and behaviors. I know there is a similar difference among Africans just based on the number of cultures that exist country to country on that continent.
There's differences as well AS similarities.
The funny thing is how the tribalism in Africa gets swept under the rugs when the agenda is to act as if they are all United in this subject
Black Americans been wearing dashikis since the 60's. Maybe even earlier. In 1935, black Americans volunteered to go to Ethiopia to help them fight their war against Italy's invasion. Black Americans always supported Africa. Most of the black Americans who tend to treat Africans badly with insults like "african booty scratcher" are immature and ignorant. Everyone said they were called these insults AT SCHOOL. Kids say dumb shit. Even I said dumb shit as a kid because I just didn't know better. I didn't understand the weight of my words. I was just joking around and shit. Even I was called an "african booty scratcher" growing up and I'm a black American. When you get older and gain more knowledge, you change your ways. You start to move different. And, alot of Africans come to the US and talk shit about black Americans and are told by other people to not be around us. In Africa, within their education system, they're not even taught about the history of slavery, colonization, and racism. They're not taught how colonization has affected their continent and shaped the borderlines of their country. Black Americans are literally a people who don't know what tribe and country their ancestors came from. We're taught that we are descendants of slaves and that's it. Our whole identity has been stolen. We are taught that Africans are savages and Africans are taught that black Americans are savages. They are trying to divide us and its working. Its always been divide and conquer for them. We have the same enemy! And, that is where pan-african-ism comes in. We need to UNITE. We need to teach and educate one another and work together. Peace, love, and prosperity to all my black and African brothers & sisters. I love y'all.
I think all African immigrants should go by the nationality like every other Foreigner in America if you Nigerian you should go as such Nigerian American like the guy did in the video you cannot label yourselves African-American and to keep it 100 you guys literally copy us and we do not copy you at all
We can label ourselves that because we are literally Africans
You are the ones who isn't but have African heritage
What do we copy you in?
I'm listening
@@everythingteensandyoungadu3181 literally everything
@@naga7461 like?
I'm waiting 😂
@@everythingteensandyoungadu3181 the way we talk,walk,dress everything stop acting like you don’t know. I live in nyc and the African youth here are crazy and out of control. You guys come to America and forget your African culture to fit in with the American culture my people created
@@naga7461 no
Y'all are the crazy ones
We have accents that are unique to not just our countries but our individual tribes/ethnic groups
I don't even talk like people from a different tribe in my own country
In fact, I don't even talk like people of my tribe from a different state
That's how deep and unique it is
We don't dress like y'all
We dress like the westerners and we also wear our natives
We dress like the west because we were colonized by the west just as you were enslaved by them and we both had to live their lifestyles basically because that's what was enforced
Moreover, y'all wear our clothes in the spirit of Africa or whatever y'all call it
You wear it and we don't wail. Whites wear it and we don't wail but y'all wail on our behalf cause you feel you have rights over African cultures
We don't copy your culture(s). You don't really have one to be frank. You lost it centuries ago and y'all are making do with what's left and I understand
We have cultures running through every arteries in us. We're are the mother of our creation. Life started in Africa. It all began with us. I live in the soil that made all mankind. I'm one with nature. I'm culture myself
What can I copy from you? Whatever you have is from me. Can the book say to the tree, "you copy me?" The book is of the tree. Even the first white man is an African away from home. The first Asian is an African away from home. Do your research and learn the truth
Africans are very proud of their heritage and we wear it with pride and share it to all
Africans are humble and hard-working not crazy
Sit down
1st. I am a Black American. My family was enslaved here and we used to own the property we were slaves on. 2nd. The term “African booty scratcher” was a term that all Black children used; I was called “African booty scratcher.” 3rd. I have Yoruban/Mende heritage. 4th. Yoruban slave traders sold us to European slavers. 5th “Akata” is a slur that means “wild animal” or “stray.” I am not your “akata.” 6th. All of that being said I embrace and respect my African heritage and African people. 7th. We created our own culture here in this wilderness call North America; our blues, jazz, hip-hop, funk, disco, country, r&b, soul speak to our pain and our journey. These musical art forms have vestiges of our original cultures from Africa. 8th. If Africa goes we go. Africa is our Mother and it is from her that we received our resiliency and strength. 9th. At the end of the day “WE” are African and this colonizer is the greatest threat to our very existence. All of the diaspora must learn each other’s histories and come together as one people. Respect ✊🏾 🇳🇬 🇸🇱🇺🇸✊🏾 BLACK FOR BLACK!!!
I love this comment
And there is no middle when you love or hate someone
Point made
african american and africans
are Not Siblings. we have our own culture. everybody hates sharing.
This entire one sided discussion jus proved Tariq right about tethers. This is why im FBA and only worry about my own. No more caping for these other groups
HYON
Yes good one less name calling foo.
Hi guy's 💞
Explain why: mtDNA is traced to eastern Africa and share a common ancestors over 150,000 to 200,000 years ago.
Well.... they say black people are the real native americans, soo idk
There should have been also africans from: east, central, southern and north part, on the panel, not just a nigerian people. As nigerians do not represent africans and africans do not think the same way. I hope this conversation continue, but on the african side, you really need to have that diversity.
I totally agree with you, I tried to diversify on the African Side as much as I could. Tagwa was the only non-west African, the others weren't all Nigerian (Ghanian and Sierre Leone)but they were all west African. I will definitely have similar panel discussions in the future and keep this in mind. Thank you for watching!
@@SAAGEWAY keep up the good work but next time have more africans from eastern, central, southern and northern too to make the conversation more interesting
This panels if you listen clearly are combination of 3 or 4 countries
@@oyiboo5053 If you read clearly this comment wasnt direct at you. Nobody asked you. So do keep you opinion to yourself.
@@oompaloompa3188 Yes people should give their views but like I said on the african side, it should be diverse. 2nd point north africans are africans. And if you check the map of africa, all the countries you mention is on the continent. I have many north africans friends and they do consider themselves as africans.
There is different in terms of culture and how
I identify as vs I am
I guess my childhood is unique. I am African American but I was called African booty scratcher growing up too... I had friends that were Afro-Caribbean, Afro-Latin, and African. My family get along a lot with all black people but we definitely felt a divide and felt confused about it because the ONLY huge differences we had is history. The “techniques “ in raising were the similar, the thirst for your parents wanting education and comfort in living, the measures your parents take in wanting you safe, etc. the only difference is in culture and knowledge of history.
The BIGGEST factor that plays in African American issues with what is essentially self-hate is history. I think people are FORGETTING that African Americans ( the descendants of African slaves brought to what is now the United States) in the USA are literally living in ignorance of their African roots UNTIL they get into their adulthood (at least that’s to be said about us up to now). The mentality is “I’m American but I just happen to be black, my parents/grandparents not from Africa so I’m not African “ the pieces of self hatred that they inflict upon black people who are different from them is LITERALLY “hurt people, HURT people”. Of course these ideas do have exception but a good majority think like that. Also factor in that there is a HUGE number of African American people born between the 1950-1980s who are the parents of today’s adults who were in foster care, illegally adopted, orphaned, children raising children, single parents home, etc who were even more ignorant to their roots because of circumstance AND lack of education and had to raise the adults of today despite anything.
This is a really weird take! Incorrect mostly! Yes there is a disconnect with our African heritage. Yes, we live in a white supremacist country & we're taught to hate ourselves, but not bc our ancestors orignated from Africa, but bc we're Black!! That whole take about us not being "raised well", wtf that means is just wrong! Idk where you got that from. THE BIGGEST issue for me is that other Black ppl from the diaspora need to stop trying to tell us where we are from & who & what we as Black Americans should feel connected to. No, we can't trace that lineage & guess what? Most of us have no desire to & it's not bc we hate the continent or its people. We just feel proud the unique, dynamic, & strong culture that we have built HERE! We're asking THAT to be respected & honored for no other reason than it's OURS! That seems to be what the rest of the diaspora fails to understand.
@@tgirl1021 I didn’t say it was because our ancestors originated from Africa I think you may have misunderstood/ misinterpreted something. Most African Americans or Black Americans as they say were ignorant of their ties to Africa. Where you’re from could be an exception but noting I said was inaccurate you can look it up or meet a lot of people from the older generations and the will tell you the same (lack of education doesn’t mean stupidity it just means that a lot of children were left to learn on their own and were misinformed) and I never said anything about black people not being raised well… I definitely agree that we are all different that why I consistently say black communities because we are all different with different cultures and nationalities but the common bond is that we are black in the United States. There is nothing wrong with our culture and I’m quite proud of what we have accomplished as a community. However the way we (not just us but also other African and African diaspora) need to do better in how we treat each other. Africans should learn how to assimilate into our culture and learn our history when they come here as we should about their cultures in order to better understand each other.
Hurt people hurt people is key. I love that. I dont LOVE that it is true of my people but it is so profound, a lot of the issue here in a nutshell. And from both sides!!!
Me too it’s funny how that works it’s called kids teasing
@@tgirl1021 it’s well know that AA from
Southern roots were raised better than those that migrated north and other places
Yo, this was informative. I come from a very eclectic family. Strong NATIVE American background, European, African an so on. I was taught to love people for who they are not where they're from. I'm always excited to come across my own. I didn't even know this was an issue until I started watching RUclips. I was never influenced by white media and have always viewed Africans like Shaka Zulu. Strong, proud and powerful. Idk much about the Zulu people but I felt proud to know that somewhere we have the same DNA. Just like the White people loveand praise other whites especially the strongest of them, I'm the same way when it comes to us. When Usane won at the Olympics I was Jamaican that day.
How can you identify as African American?
Wow I grew up in the 70s we always identified as African and wanted a connection
When I entered to USA from Africa I tried my best to communicate with Black American but It was not easy as I thought. to be honest I can communicate with white than black (I know it’s unbelievable ) & I’m 100% black Ethiopian.
I am Nigerian in the USA and I 💯 understand what you are saying
@@TheOnlyWayYeshua Pretty much
Exactly, I just can't seem to connect with the African Americans, because our cultures and they way we were raised are so different. So making friends in a school that is majorly black is not easy.
That's because you has been brainwashed. I tried to connect with Ethiopians and it was just didn't work. I seem like they were afraid to connect. Plus you distance yourself from black people.
Let's make it make sense. Some of you Africans make it very hard to connect with you all. I've heard African said that we're not real africans. But my DNA says otherwise. It wasn't our fault our ancestors sold us or that we were captured. So instead of judging why don't you try to understand and teach. Africans can be very judgmental and heartless. Africans can be very arrogant. Don't nobody want to deal with that.
I really wish I could have been with this group so i could peel back the layers of misunderstanding and paint the perfect picture for the Africans who migrated here in the 90's. Its called ranking or scoring. I beg any African to ask a RANDOM African American especially the older generations in their 40's and 50's like myself "hey in your younger days did the kids rank and score on each other?" Its not a culture , its just the way American youth have fun in school - by cracking jokes on one another. I finished high school in 91 so i wasnt a part of that era. BUT I overheard a younger black American saying yeah man we were in riot of laughter at the dudes wearing high water suit pants. Africans Google PEE WEE HERMAN. Being that you guys are totally acclimated with America by now. High waters is the American slang term for pants where the leg cuffs dont reach your shoes SHOWING THE UPPER PORTION OF YOUR SOCKS - .You can SEE the hilarity in someone coming to school like Pee Wee Herman in the 90's early Internet age. Lastly there's one more extremely important thing to note. African Americans we have the term BLACKITY BLACK BLACK. No other African takes more pride in being BLACK than us. We didnt start taking pride in being African after Wakanda thats preposterous! We had the back to Africa MOVEMENT in the 1930s. W.E.B Dubois was the first PHD black man to finish at Harvard in Africana studies. In 70's dashikis became a big trend i can go on but i'll end it here. Misinformation and misinterpretation is the cause of our division
I agree, but I feel the younger generation lacks the same respect and love for Africa/Africans than the older generations from the 1900s. I feel like most black Americans today are completely different than the ones in the 1900s in my opinion
Nobody in Africa takes time to accept they’re Black because it ain’t their identity you fool, we identify as our tribes and nationality and we love our culture so why should they identify as a colour? You people are so lost it’s sad
@@bunny2anti31 African first and Ndebele last.
@@bunny2anti31 You’re skin color is your identity, your gender is also your identity, Height,Eye color etc
@@kongkong2308 Skin isn’t Shit wtf are you talking about, Take your western mindset away from me I don’t have time to argue
I was born FULLY AA but my mom and dad split when I was young. She married a Liberian man and I grew up with so much African (Liberian) culture around me… I almost wanna say it was a healing experience in a way - because though I don’t know what region my real ancestors were from, I still got to experience the culture at home. My AA husband and children love the stews and swallows and dishes that I make to carry that culture on in our family.
Unfortunately though, the Liberian part of the family wasn’t always so nice and welcoming to my mom (particularly the women) because she was American. And my dad used to make a lot of negative connotations towards our African American culture… I don’t think it was out of hate, but we all have our preconceived notions whether we admit it or not.
I’m 30 now so this was way before Black Panther
Overall, I think most AA’s have a part of them that yearns a connection to home ❤
Why do some people say black American and other say African Americans?
One made comment here "how can be African and don't know history about African American". they are a lot of African American who doesn't know about African history too, everything we know based with education we have or based with individual self need to know. A lot of African do know that all black people in the world original came from Africa how they gets to whenever some African know some don't know.
But one group is migrating to America in substantial numbers not the other way around. That’s like a Black American moving to Ghana and not knowing shit about the history there but expecting a Ghanaian to be thoroughly educated about them.
@@mam9475 Exactly! And Ghanaians don’t know Nigerian history, Kenyan’s don’t know Zimbabwean history but African Americans are suppose to know about everybody history. 🙄 I hear this madness all the time.
Black Americans aren’t African. We are an entirely different ethnic group of our own.
We certainly ain't black native indigenous if that's what you are aiming for lol
We have between 60 to 90% West African DNA in us we are from the African continent.
I really get the sister from sudan she have said it all
I am from the Sudan’s too and I get her culturally 🇸🇩 🇸🇸
Someone should talk about what being black in America is like they systematically try and destroy your blackness there's so many things even in the house hold , it's gets alot deeper