Beeline 1 is great, there are obvious limitations to the device, but the minimalistic form factor is what drawn me to it. Looking forward to the 2nd gen, even though I don't think it's making gen 1 completely obsolete. I'm happy that startups like Beeline exist and are successful :) great job and thanks from one happy rider
Thanks so much @footof! This is such a lovely comment. And yes, absolutely, we don't want to make the original Moto device obsolete - we have room in our hearts for both Moto and Moto II ❤. We are so happy that customers like you exist and support start ups like us. Thank you
@@ridebeeline Could you please elaborate on what you mean by "we dont want to make the original Moto device obsolete"? I am asking because I need a navigation system and cant wait till the Moto 2 gets shipped. I am defintely going to buy the Moto 2 but until it gets shipped I am debating on whether to buy the Moto aswell.
Of course,@@hanspeter-fs4in ! Basically, we will be continuing to support the original Moto device for many years to come. Obviously we can't update the hardware on it (which is why we introduced Moto II) which means that it doesn't have the mini map view as the screen is just too small for that... but, apart from that, we'll be continuing to introduce new features into the app which will be available for use on both devices 😊 So, I'd say that it depends on what you are looking for! If you are after the mini map view on your device, that is one "limitation" of the original Moto to be aware of... although lots of people do love the arrow view.
Fantastic timing - I'm going on a 2 month moto trip at the end of this year and was starting to look into what navigation to use. I haven't been on kickstarter for a while, so I would have missed this announcement if it wasn't for RUclips's suggestion of the video! I use the app on my iphone for bicycling but never made the leap to the device, so I'm excited to get on board!
Love my Moto, always got me to where I needed to be with no fuss or hassle! Fantastic piece of kit! This latest version looks to improve it further, so I'm definitely interested!
Oh, that Moto II Gunmetal Grey looks very tempting! I have retro style motorcycles, love the fact that you can attach the mount with the rubber bands (I don't like permanent mounts, or big nav units that look weird on a retro bike). It's small, unobtrusive, and the 'mini map' might just give it that extra confidence at busy junctions.
I had to get the Triumph moto here in South Africa as it was the only one available. Hoping to get the moto 2. I think the mini map could be beneficial with tricky intersections. Also the improved buttons are going to be much appreciated.
Thanks Neil! Yes, we have had great feedback on the mini map and how much easier it has made urban navigation for our beta testers. We are excited to ship out the Moto IIs so that everyone can try it 😁
I love my Beeline Moto. I hope it keeps the compass mode. While I do use the navigation feature when I’m in a hurry, I find the compass mode is a great way to discover new roads. The new map features could make the nav feature even better.
What!? There's not 5 minutes since I suggested an updated Moto device on other one of your official posts!! This is brilliant, I'll be sure to look into buying a Moto II soon!
I’ve got the Velo 2 which is absolutely indispensable for riding my eBike around London but I’ve been holding off getting the Moto for my MV as I was hoping there might have been an mk2 in the works. Delighted to find out that’s the case! Can’t wait until I can get one.👍🏽
I’ve been using Bee line Moto for years and love it. I was attracted to the fact that it didn’t clutter up my bike and matches the minimalistic Naked look of my bike. Now I’m often the ride leader on weekend group rides because Beeline makes me so confident of when to turn. I still love my Moto 1 but this new device looks even better.
This is sooo lovely to hear @Vegesaurus7! Thanks so much for sharing. We are so glad that your Moto device has given you the confidence to lead rides. Awesome 🤟
I love the minimalist look of it. I am privileged to own a really pretty bike and I love the fact Moto 1 doesn’t take away from the lines of the bike. Even with matching Triumph symbol. The fact that you increased usability without compromising the design is really exciting. I like riding in the city and whilst I live using the arrow in the country and being “forced” to sign read and be aware of my surroundings, unfortunately in a modern city environment, a mini map is going to really assist. 👍
I agree. On balance, id rather use my beeline rather than have an expensive iphone swinging in the wind on a mount on the bars of my naked bike. The fact it's discreet, easy to remove and charge and 'just' gives you enough info, is why i'm still a user. Even though it's not perfect, (but what is) i'm happy enough with it. GL
@@Bob-ts2tu and @user-io7ne1zh7b, we are so glad to hear that you have enjoyed using your Moto devices! Thank you for the lovely comments 🥰. Yes, we hope that you will love the mini map view if you go for Moto II!
I've had my Velo 2 for just under 2 years and I was waiting for the Moto to catch to its standard! Having the road layout displayed in simple form improves on the main issues with the original model, glad this is finally available in Moto form.
Great update! Just sent in my pre-order for July, from Switzerland. Yes, there are many cheaper alternatives on the market. But that’s not why I love the device and chose Beeline as my go to navi device. I ride a custom Triumph T120 and care about the look. Beeline fits in perfectly. I also love the minimalistic approach, as I don’t want an overload of info when I’m riding. The update will fix many shortcomings from the Moto 1, so I’m very much looking forward to test the new version.
@@ridebeeline- Thank YOU, guys! I recently moved to the UK, and I was a bit 'scared' of exploring new roads. Your amazing device allowed me to explore new places, knowing that I will always be able to get back home. Invaluable! Absolutely love it
I actually like the fact that I plan my trips with Moto and look ahead at the route to have some sense of where I need to turn. This is opposed to the dumb turn on navigation and follow the arrow I usually do in my car. I am looking forward to Moto 2 for the improved city navigation I'm sure will be benefitted with the map being displayed. Looks great to me, I'm looking forward to it :)
Thanks so much @sinzies! We are so glad to hear this 🥰. Yes, we have heard great feedback from our beta testers on how the mini map has made urban route following much easier!
I crowd funded beeline moto 1 and use it since day one. Never had a bike trip without it since. The only good reason to get rid of it will be beeline moto 2. Can‘t wait!
This is so great to hear, thanks @DrZocao! We're so glad that you love your Moto device and thank you so much for believing in us from the very beginning 🥰
@@johnduquemin4344 I used the self adhesive pad on their mount and removed the middle section so fits direct to the base. I mounted this to the top of the steering column and worked well in my setting. I also got a 52mm gauge chrome surround and modified it to fit the outside - just looks like an old gauge now. People notice it, as not standard, but it does not look out of place. To hide the screw part of the mount I just used some heat shrink. If you have a flat dash it would be mounted direct to that too. You could not recess as need access to the button on the edges. You will not regret it. I've navigated about 5,000miles since April 22 with it.
Ha I pitched the idea for that gadget with a very similar design 8 years ago at TUM University for a course on ergonomics. Seeing this product now is a weird feeling. Well done!
I have 31,427 miles on the first beeline. I have done many long rides, app says over 1000 hours of riding. I love the compass mode for ending up where I need to be, but I can pick crazy rides as I desire.
Last year my Moto fell off. The plastic mount inside the Aluminium holder unscrewed itself. I have a second handlebar holder on my second bike. Can I use this mount for the new Moto 2 or aren’t they compatible?
Oh no sorry to hear that! Yes, you can use existing Moto mounts with the Moto II - we have developed an adapter insert that you can slot into existing mounts so that they will fit the new device 🙌
Thanks Jerry! Glad to hear that you have been using your Moto device for so long! We hope that you have been loving it. Greetings back to Malaysia from all of us in the UK 😊
Beeline 1 is fantastic, I personally love the fact that I had to learn the icons and I am still able to feel like i'm exploring without a map based system. You should definitely not phase out the moto1 as it's a great option to work along side this.
Hey @benjaminbate8079! So glad to hear this - thanks for the lovely comment! The original Moto is absolutely not being phased out - we have room for both devices in our hearts and will continue to support both with new features for years to come 😊
Cool. Always like the idea of the Beeline Moto. I felt the previous one didn't quite fit what I would want. This one looks much better, really considering it.
I have a full-size GPS on my motorbike so I didn't think I needed something like this. On a recent trip to Mexico I went e-bike riding and thought a smaller device like the Beeline would make more sense than a huge thing hanging off the bars so now I'm checking it out.
I really enjoyed my Moto 1 and it looks like this is a significant improvement (particularly in terms of the screen). I'd be tempted to buy one of these however I did have two mounts fail, will the new mounts be more robust that the previous ones?
Hey Carl! We have redesigned all of the mounts specifically to deal with the reported issues from the original ones. You will see a significant improvement on these too 🙌
i bought a gopro mount from china off ebay for mine for less than a fiver, and used the extra bits that came with it in the box for the stick on mount, rather than the rubbish elastic band thing which doesnt stay still when you come to press buttons or take it off, as well as being worried that it may drop off when the rubber perishes, as all rubber bands eventually do, and it's been perfect and solid. the £25 they were asking for an OEM mount is ridiculously expensive for what it is.
If only I had seen this earlier. I ordered my beeline just a few days ago. Had I known about this new version, I would have waited it out a couple weeks... Still, I really like the one I got!
Got my Beeline Moto 1 a couple of days before I found out you were launching Moto 2........Doh! However, really enjoy using the Moto 1 and it looks great on my bike
Thank you Jock! Glad to hear that you are enjoying it - and we have space in our hearts for both devices so will be continuing to support and update both 😊. OG Moto is a very solid choice 🤟
This is the one I've been waiting for! I had the original and didn't quite get on with it. I did like it though. *This* one? I'm all in. Someone please take my money!
Looks great compared to my phone in a case on the handlebars (doesn’t suit a classic bike!). I’m waiting for the May 2024 release date in the UK for the Beeline 2. Was hoping to get it in time for the Distinguished Gentleman’s Ride on the 19th but it’s cutting it fine now!
I really hope the flat adhesive mount is available in the package, I don’t have handlebar space to fit one on my bike, so I need to fit one to the glass of my mirror, it’s the only option for me!!
Thanks @japfourme381! You can see the mounting options here: www.kickstarter.com/projects/ridebeeline/beeline-moto-ii-beautifully-simple-nav-for-motorcyclists#:~:text=which%20will%20be%20sold%20separately). Sounds like the 4-hole AMPS would be good for you? If you already have a sticky pad mount, you could use some of those bits (like the arm) to adjust the angle etc.
Awesome! The mini map will be really helpful. I own two beeline-moto (the regular one and the Triumph Version….for my triumph, of course!). But non of them work as i would like to, it tells you to turn when is already too late 😢 so i do not use them any more and i have been unable to sell them second hand. The triumph version is a beautiful paperweight and opens conversation in the office…. But that’s all it does. My KTM comes with turn-by-turn navigation from the factory, but it also lacks a mini-map. Hopefully i can sell the two units i have and buy this new version!
Hey @abelmelgar6925! Sorry to hear about these lag issues. Have you ever been in touch with support@beeline.co about it? It may be that your phone's GPS isn't very accurate (and there may be ways to improve this). The beta testers have all reported a big improvement thanks to the mini map 😊
Thanks Hekatoncheiros208! We have enough love in our hearts for both devices and will be continuing to update the original Moto device with new features for years to come. Plus it does have the street cred of being the OG!
I’m loving the beeline moto, and seriously thinking about upgrading to the moto II. Especially the map overlay makes small complex junctions more clear and safe. Can you say anything about the battery life, compared to the original moto? (With backlight off)
Great question - with Moto II you'll get 10-14 hours of ride time on a single charge depending on what the screen brightness is set you. You can also purchase the Powered Mount Insert accessory, which keeps the device topped up by connecting it up to your bike's battery, so you can ride without worrying about recharging.
Hey @dom252! We had to change the mounting system slightly but we have adapters available (for £4.99 each) which will allow anyone to mount a Moto II onto an original Moto mount 😊
Hi there from Malaysia, I love my Beeline so much. This Moto II looks freaking amazing! Can't wait to go for the upgrade although I wonder if it will work with older mounts or we have to change em as well....?
Thanks Richard! So glad to hear that you love your Moto :). Yes, we will have an adapter available that will allow you to use your existing Moto mounts with the Moto II device 🙌
My beeline died due to water ingress after a trip to the highlands. I will be keeping an eye on the moto2 when its released and might invest in a new one. I like the ease of navigation and how to manage routes on the app and device.
Sorry to hear that! We have worked hard on waterproofing for Moto II and have also designed it for modular repairability (more on that later) should there ever be any issues with it 😊
Fantastic ! I made so many rides with the first models. (2000kms in 4 days these summer and never lost my route). Having this « track » view seems to be so nicer. Great job ! Will you update a bit the original beeline UI that way ?
Hey @Viik! That is so awesome. So glad to hear that you've had great rides with the original Moto! Unfortunately we can't update the UI on the original Moto to include the mini map view because the screen area is just too small (the Moto II has double the screen size) but we will continue to introduce lots of exciting new features for both devices via the app 🤟
@@ridebeeline thanks for the reply, I was expecting that as the screen is smaller. But I also love the autonomy that provide this small ink screen :) Anyway, I'm really interested about the new one.
Woo, thank you so much!! Yes, we will be offering adapters in the backer survey which will allow you to make your original Moto mounts compatible with moto II mounts 🙌
Is it possible to add a calimoto gpx file in the beeline? The question why. I don’t want to use my phone because of vibration which can be damaged overtime.
Yes, it should fit fine on your Harley - the larger diameter silicone bands should work great, or alternatively the Bar Clamp Mount would suit it perfectly.
I’ve just come back from a 1700 mile European trip guided solely by my BeeLine v1.0. The only fault I could level at it is that some junctions do need a little more information, particularly in towns. Originally, I liked the purity of v1.0 but I have now changed my mind - Clearly the new model addresses this issue so I suppose I’d better buy one. 😀
Does this work with other navigation apps like google maps or Calimoto? And what if i want to listen to music with a Cardo and Sena with bluetooth with the same phone? Does it work simultaneously?
We don't integrate with Google Maps or Calimoto but you can import GPX files into the Beeline app if you would like to ride a route from another platform with your Moto II 😊
That's correct for now! But we do ship to Taiwan from the Kickstarter page 😊. When we go into general sale in May it will be available through our global network of retailers and distributors 🤟
Yes, improvements all over the shop! Obviously any lag does depend on the GPS accuracy of the phone you're pairing up but the mini map view has also made a big difference on this front 🙌
Hmm! When was the last time you tried it? We have made strides on this already so you should see an improvement on your current device@@ThomasMacThomas . If you don't, definitely get in touch with support!
What is the power consumption of the app like on a phone? During a long trip I imagine the constant Bluetooth and GPS will take a toll, but is it using only what it needs and not performing excessive checks?
Hey Boris! No problem - that will be £49 on the backer survey (and that will be the RRP too). You'll need to select a premium mount for it to fit into but your choice of a premium mount is included with pledge level 🙌
Hey! We don't currently integrate with any other motorcycling navigation apps but you can export any routes you like from Calimoto as GPX files and import them into the Beeline app 🤟
I have just heard back from Charlie! (He's been building Beeline devices since our first one :)) He says: "We designed for, and only support using the powered mount for operation from a 12v battery. In theory it will work down to about 5.4v supply voltage, but you might experience significantly slower charging, it may fail to charge unless the engine/alternator is running, and it might result in increased load/faster discharge of your battery when the bike is out of use for a while."
@@ridebeeline that would be awesome. This is actually the only feature that is missing for me to make a purchase decision. Here in Germany are so many street constructions or traffic jams. It would be great to be able to avoid them
If I say that I'm looking for this without knowing it exists, no one will believe me. I currently have a cb500x, and I was initially thinking of looking for a smartwatch that had the ability to download maps. I would fix it just below the motorcycle's dashboard, where there is an "ideal" space. However, I didn't find anything cool to take a chance on, and now this sensational video appears. Here, take all my money, I want one... lol (I used translate, forgive me for any errors in the translation).
There will not be a trade-in option for existing original Moto users. However, these devices will continue to be supported and updated for years to come and you’ll always have the street cred of owning the original device! To get riding with some upgraded hardware, we will have mount adapters for original Moto users to either a - use their current original Moto with new Moto II mounts, or to b - use a new Moto II on an existing mount set-up rather than installing new mounting. Thank you for your support on the original Moto. Our Moto gang is strong and we look forward to continuing to build on that experience!
i just bought my beeline 1 and i see this now, talk about timing From what i've ridden in it since i got it last week it's good, got a little trouble when there are too many directions at the same intersection though
Hey @fusaro6614, thank you! Glad to hear that you are enjoying your original Moto 😊. Don't worry - we have room in our hearts for both devices and will continue to update the original Moto with lots of new features for years to come. Of course, it will always have the street cred of being the OG device too 🤟
Product looks promising. I am from Chennai, India and interested to preorder. Beeline Fast and Fun is not available here. Does this mean that I would get only compass mode coverage and not the map-based glanceable turn by turn navigation mentioned in 1:10?
Thank you! We don't currently ship to India unfortunately 😞. We have encountered too many customs issues there in the past but we are trying to find an Indian distributor 😊. You'd get both turn-by-turn and also compass mode mapping in India. If you are in a place not covered by Fast and Fun you will get routing from our default routing provider. The best way to test that out is to download our free app and enter a few destinations to see what the app gives you as a route 🤟
Hey @ninhvuhungkhang, yes it works worldwide! The best way to check routing in your area is to download the free app and pop in a couple of routes to see what it gives you 😊
I have the original moto unit. Ridden thousands of miles touring the globe with it. Like it when it does not lose cell transmission almost every time I go into a tunnel and between numerous buildings in a city. Did Beeline do fix when that happens - it was really frustrating causing me to stop and reconnect or be taken on a direction i did not want to go.
Thanks @tedhoppe5918! Nice, thank you so much for supporting the original Moto 😊. Because the Moto devices (Moto and Moto II) do piggy-back on your phone's GPS, they will be impacted by confused GPS signal (eg. in very build-up areas of cities or in a tunnel) but this does tend to clear up quickly
for the most part i'm happy enough with my beeline moto, except for the fact that if you import a gpx the 'back on track' feature doesnt work. i asked about this about 18 months ago and got a 'look into it' response then nada, and it still isn't there.
Oooh sorry to hear about this, thank you for sending this feedback! It might be worth following back up with our support team (support@beeline.co) who can bring it back up with design 👍
Is there a way to make this work with non-beeline apps? Like, is the API documented somewhere? I'd love to buy one, but having to use the beeline app is a no-go for me.
Unfortunately not! The Beeline app is much of the powerhouse behind our devices and really does provide the best experience! May I ask what would put you off using it?
@@ridebeeline I'm in love with the scenic power planner (especially on the iPad) and I have years of history in this app (routes, tracks, POI groups etc). So I'm reluctant to change. Scenic supports a few bluetooth gadgets already, so I had hopes that beeline could be added. No worries, I'll watch the beeline development. Maybe someday...
The old one did not communicate that well with my phone at the time (Oneplus something). We tried so many things. In the end, you bought it back. Very good of you! Thank you! Another thing was the difficulties in narrow streets/city riding. The arrow was just too late. So when I look at this new one, where a bit of the map is showing, that bit is gone. So this new one looks very promising. Living in Denmark, is it better to wait and see the device on the shelf at my dealer, or can I order one from you? Thanks!
Hey John, thanks so much for this comment! Sorry to hear that your phone didn't get on well with the original Moto - thanks for giving it a go. You can pre-order one from us here: www.kickstarter.com/projects/ridebeeline/beeline-moto-ii-beautifully-simple-nav-for-motorcyclists and they'll also be available via our distributor/retailer networks - across the world and including Europe - from May so you might be able to see one at the dealer then too!
@@ridebeeline Thank you! Well, I don't have an account on kickstarter so I wait untill I see one at my dealers! This new one looks very promising, indeed! Thank you!
Hey @bloodiex5812 - if you back for a metal edition you will get a choice between gunmetal grey and silver in the backer survey (which we will share with all backers after the campaign ends) 🤟
Thank you! Don't worry - we have enough love in our hearts for both devices and will continue to update the original Moto device for many years to come 😊Plus it will always be the OG 🤟
Does this come with an updated app where you can download maps ? As I don’t have a data plan and don’t have internet connection on the road. Other than that I love the original beeline. I have a few classic Shovelheads and don’t want to route power for a ‘big’ gps like a Zumo. It’s so easy to strap the beeline to a mirror stalk with the elastic bands. I also use it on my Piaggio scooter.
@@bmp72 Yes, you are both correct! We don't currently have an option to download maps for offline use but we are looking into it as a feature for later on 🤟
This looks amazing, the map feature is exactly what I've been wanting. I'm worried about the open usb c port though, is it waterproof for raining riding?
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Beeline 1 is great, there are obvious limitations to the device, but the minimalistic form factor is what drawn me to it. Looking forward to the 2nd gen, even though I don't think it's making gen 1 completely obsolete. I'm happy that startups like Beeline exist and are successful :) great job and thanks from one happy rider
Thanks so much @footof! This is such a lovely comment. And yes, absolutely, we don't want to make the original Moto device obsolete - we have room in our hearts for both Moto and Moto II ❤. We are so happy that customers like you exist and support start ups like us. Thank you
@@ridebeeline Could you please elaborate on what you mean by "we dont want to make the original Moto device obsolete"?
I am asking because I need a navigation system and cant wait till the Moto 2 gets shipped. I am defintely going to buy the Moto 2 but until it gets shipped I am debating on whether to buy the Moto aswell.
Of course,@@hanspeter-fs4in ! Basically, we will be continuing to support the original Moto device for many years to come. Obviously we can't update the hardware on it (which is why we introduced Moto II) which means that it doesn't have the mini map view as the screen is just too small for that... but, apart from that, we'll be continuing to introduce new features into the app which will be available for use on both devices 😊
So, I'd say that it depends on what you are looking for! If you are after the mini map view on your device, that is one "limitation" of the original Moto to be aware of... although lots of people do love the arrow view.
Fantastic timing - I'm going on a 2 month moto trip at the end of this year and was starting to look into what navigation to use. I haven't been on kickstarter for a while, so I would have missed this announcement if it wasn't for RUclips's suggestion of the video!
I use the app on my iphone for bicycling but never made the leap to the device, so I'm excited to get on board!
Oooh great news, @joshlawrie4852! That is so exciting and we are so glad that RUclips found you :). Thanks for your support!
Love my Moto, always got me to where I needed to be with no fuss or hassle! Fantastic piece of kit! This latest version looks to improve it further, so I'm definitely interested!
We are so glad to hear this, thanks so much Matt! Thank you for your support 🥰
Oh, that Moto II Gunmetal Grey looks very tempting! I have retro style motorcycles, love the fact that you can attach the mount with the rubber bands (I don't like permanent mounts, or big nav units that look weird on a retro bike). It's small, unobtrusive, and the 'mini map' might just give it that extra confidence at busy junctions.
I had to get the Triumph moto here in South Africa as it was the only one available. Hoping to get the moto 2. I think the mini map could be beneficial with tricky intersections. Also the improved buttons are going to be much appreciated.
Thanks Neil! Yes, we have had great feedback on the mini map and how much easier it has made urban navigation for our beta testers. We are excited to ship out the Moto IIs so that everyone can try it 😁
I love my Beeline Moto. I hope it keeps the compass mode. While I do use the navigation feature when I’m in a hurry, I find the compass mode is a great way to discover new roads. The new map features could make the nav feature even better.
Compass Mode is firmly still there! (We could never ditch it 🥰)
I was so happy with the Beeline Moto that this is going to be a must buy. Well done team!
Thanks so much!! We are so happy to hear this ❤
This was my number one request for the moto gps! Map overlay as opposed to just an arrow. I'll be buying one of these as soon as I can
Thanks so much @ZombifiedRob! This was definitely the number one request that we heard - excited to release it 😊
It is what is, the best way of navigation on a bike. Thanks for the improvements. Love the option to charge the Moto directly on the bike 👍
Love to hear this @testguru1976! Thanks you ❤
What!? There's not 5 minutes since I suggested an updated Moto device on other one of your official posts!! This is brilliant, I'll be sure to look into buying a Moto II soon!
Thanks so much Felipe!!! We are very excited about it 😁
I’ve got the Velo 2 which is absolutely indispensable for riding my eBike around London but I’ve been holding off getting the Moto for my MV as I was hoping there might have been an mk2 in the works. Delighted to find out that’s the case! Can’t wait until I can get one.👍🏽
Oh so exciting!! Thanks so much @AyoHues ❤🤟
Still a year until i can get the full motorcycle A permit, but when I do, I'll definitely get one of these! Looks so sleek!
I’ve been using Bee line Moto for years and love it. I was attracted to the fact that it didn’t clutter up my bike and matches the minimalistic Naked look of my bike. Now I’m often the ride leader on weekend group rides because Beeline makes me so confident of when to turn. I still love my Moto 1 but this new device looks even better.
This is sooo lovely to hear @Vegesaurus7! Thanks so much for sharing. We are so glad that your Moto device has given you the confidence to lead rides. Awesome 🤟
I love the minimalist look of it. I am privileged to own a really pretty bike and I love the fact Moto 1 doesn’t take away from the lines of the bike. Even with matching Triumph symbol. The fact that you increased usability without compromising the design is really exciting. I like riding in the city and whilst I live using the arrow in the country and being “forced” to sign read and be aware of my surroundings, unfortunately in a modern city environment, a mini map is going to really assist. 👍
I agree. On balance, id rather use my beeline rather than have an expensive iphone swinging in the wind on a mount on the bars of my naked bike. The fact it's discreet, easy to remove and charge and 'just' gives you enough info, is why i'm still a user. Even though it's not perfect, (but what is) i'm happy enough with it. GL
@@Bob-ts2tu and @user-io7ne1zh7b, we are so glad to hear that you have enjoyed using your Moto devices! Thank you for the lovely comments 🥰. Yes, we hope that you will love the mini map view if you go for Moto II!
Wow , love my beeline and this looks like its even better
Thank you!!! So glad to hear this
Is it possible to use google maps for routing. Instead of OpenStreetMap@@ridebeeline
I've had my Velo 2 for just under 2 years and I was waiting for the Moto to catch to its standard! Having the road layout displayed in simple form improves on the main issues with the original model, glad this is finally available in Moto form.
Thanks @Geshmaal! ❤
Great update! Just sent in my pre-order for July, from Switzerland. Yes, there are many cheaper alternatives on the market. But that’s not why I love the device and chose Beeline as my go to navi device. I ride a custom Triumph T120 and care about the look. Beeline fits in perfectly. I also love the minimalistic approach, as I don’t want an overload of info when I’m riding. The update will fix many shortcomings from the Moto 1, so I’m very much looking forward to test the new version.
Love my Beeline and I'm happy the new one can be charged while riding! 👍
Thanks so much @Fadorak! So glad to hear this 😊
My funniest little navigator. Best looking on my bike. Compass mode is da bomb!
Beeline Moto is genuinely the best 'motorcycle-money' I've spent, apart from what I spent on the bike itself.
Awww, Matteo! That is so kind of you to say - thank you ❤. I have shared this with the whole team - we are so chuffed 😊
@@ridebeeline- Thank YOU, guys! I recently moved to the UK, and I was a bit 'scared' of exploring new roads. Your amazing device allowed me to explore new places, knowing that I will always be able to get back home. Invaluable! Absolutely love it
@@matteomori4330 This is so wonderful to hear! We are so happy that Moto has been helpful to you. Thank you for sharing your experience!
Heard of helmets and other protective gear? 😂
@@ArmadilloGodzillayea but those are boring 😂
Beeline is amazing. I am so happy to see beeline moto 2 and will definitely be getting it
Thanks so much!! Love to hear this ❤
Wow. This looks fantastic. Great work Beeline ❤
Thank you @ollie-allen!
It's an amazing device, I hope that it creates a new way of looking for navigation for motorcycles.
Thanks so much @RoleMaisLongo! ❤
I realy like it as it is navigation only. I dont wanna see incoming call, WhatsApp notification and orher bs during cruising with mx Bobber 🤙
Beeline Moto is just GREAT! I use it on all my bikes and even use it in my 30 yr old car
Wooo thanks so much Marcel! So glad to hear this 🤩
I actually like the fact that I plan my trips with Moto and look ahead at the route to have some sense of where I need to turn. This is opposed to the dumb turn on navigation and follow the arrow I usually do in my car. I am looking forward to Moto 2 for the improved city navigation I'm sure will be benefitted with the map being displayed. Looks great to me, I'm looking forward to it :)
Thanks so much @sinzies! We are so glad to hear this 🥰. Yes, we have heard great feedback from our beta testers on how the mini map has made urban route following much easier!
I crowd funded beeline moto 1 and use it since day one. Never had a bike trip without it since. The only good reason to get rid of it will be beeline moto 2. Can‘t wait!
This is so great to hear, thanks @DrZocao! We're so glad that you love your Moto device and thank you so much for believing in us from the very beginning 🥰
I use mine in a classic car and it is brilliant, have converted a lot of owners too. Excited to see this new iteration. Great work Beeline team.
So happy to hear that, thank you!!
Thinking of doing the same in my classic car How did you mount it ??
@@johnduquemin4344 I used the self adhesive pad on their mount and removed the middle section so fits direct to the base. I mounted this to the top of the steering column and worked well in my setting. I also got a 52mm gauge chrome surround and modified it to fit the outside - just looks like an old gauge now. People notice it, as not standard, but it does not look out of place. To hide the screw part of the mount I just used some heat shrink. If you have a flat dash it would be mounted direct to that too. You could not recess as need access to the button on the edges. You will not regret it. I've navigated about 5,000miles since April 22 with it.
great! looking forward to the version where you can move it from the bike to the hand as a smartwatch :) to navigate through the shops :D
Oh yeah, that would be great! We'll have to look into a wrist strap... 👀
Ha I pitched the idea for that gadget with a very similar design 8 years ago at TUM University for a course on ergonomics. Seeing this product now is a weird feeling. Well done!
Have a look at Royal Enfield's Tripper accessory which has been available for quite some time.
I have 31,427 miles on the first beeline. I have done many long rides, app says over 1000 hours of riding.
I love the compass mode for ending up where I need to be, but I can pick crazy rides as I desire.
Love this, Jason! So glad that you have had so many great miles with your Moto device 🤟. Thanks so much for being a Beeliner ❤
Last year my Moto fell off. The plastic mount inside the Aluminium holder unscrewed itself. I have a second handlebar holder on my second bike. Can I use this mount for the new Moto 2 or aren’t they compatible?
Oh no sorry to hear that! Yes, you can use existing Moto mounts with the Moto II - we have developed an adapter insert that you can slot into existing mounts so that they will fit the new device 🙌
Greetings from Malaysia, I have had the Beeline Moto for the past year and a half. Glad to hear that Moto 2 is coming with a Map on the screen!
Thanks Jerry! Glad to hear that you have been using your Moto device for so long! We hope that you have been loving it. Greetings back to Malaysia from all of us in the UK 😊
Beeline 1 is fantastic, I personally love the fact that I had to learn the icons and I am still able to feel like i'm exploring without a map based system. You should definitely not phase out the moto1 as it's a great option to work along side this.
Hey @benjaminbate8079! So glad to hear this - thanks for the lovely comment! The original Moto is absolutely not being phased out - we have room for both devices in our hearts and will continue to support both with new features for years to come 😊
Cool. Always like the idea of the Beeline Moto.
I felt the previous one didn't quite fit what I would want.
This one looks much better, really considering it.
Thanks Elliot!!! Please give us a shout if you have any questions
woowwwww amazing!!! a big step from the first Beelinemoto
Wooo, thank you so much!!! We are so happy to hear this - we think so too 😁❤
Never used the first one, but I have decided to back this one. I love the improvements made. Excited to get my hands on it. Top work
Thanks so much Liam! We hope that you will love it (we think that you will!!) 🤟
I have a full-size GPS on my motorbike so I didn't think I needed something like this. On a recent trip to Mexico I went e-bike riding and thought a smaller device like the Beeline would make more sense than a huge thing hanging off the bars so now I'm checking it out.
Thanks @matt_kelly! Please give us a shout if you have any questions 😊
I really enjoyed my Moto 1 and it looks like this is a significant improvement (particularly in terms of the screen). I'd be tempted to buy one of these however I did have two mounts fail, will the new mounts be more robust that the previous ones?
Hey Carl! We have redesigned all of the mounts specifically to deal with the reported issues from the original ones. You will see a significant improvement on these too 🙌
i bought a gopro mount from china off ebay for mine for less than a fiver, and used the extra bits that came with it in the box for the stick on mount, rather than the rubbish elastic band thing which doesnt stay still when you come to press buttons or take it off, as well as being worried that it may drop off when the rubber perishes, as all rubber bands eventually do, and it's been perfect and solid. the £25 they were asking for an OEM mount is ridiculously expensive for what it is.
If only I had seen this earlier. I ordered my beeline just a few days ago. Had I known about this new version, I would have waited it out a couple weeks... Still, I really like the one I got!
Nice! Looks like a GTA minimap, which is more than enough.
🤣😅 Thank you!
Got my Beeline Moto 1 a couple of days before I found out you were launching Moto 2........Doh!
However, really enjoy using the Moto 1 and it looks great on my bike
Thank you Jock! Glad to hear that you are enjoying it - and we have space in our hearts for both devices so will be continuing to support and update both 😊. OG Moto is a very solid choice 🤟
Looking forward to getting the Beeline II.
Thanks Mark! Looking forward to sending it to you 😊
This is the one I've been waiting for! I had the original and didn't quite get on with it. I did like it though. *This* one? I'm all in. Someone please take my money!
Thanks Nigel!! 😊❤
Also, looks like your Kickstarter is going rather well, less than 24 hours in. Congratulations team!
Thanks so much! Yes we can't quite believe it. Feeling very lucky to have such amazing support 🥰@@nigelmtb
Great nav device. I love my beeline
Thanks so much!! Great to hear ❤
Looks great compared to my phone in a case on the handlebars (doesn’t suit a classic bike!). I’m waiting for the May 2024 release date in the UK for the Beeline 2. Was hoping to get it in time for the Distinguished Gentleman’s Ride on the 19th but it’s cutting it fine now!
I really hope the flat adhesive mount is available in the package, I don’t have handlebar space to fit one on my bike, so I need to fit one to the glass of my mirror, it’s the only option for me!!
Thanks @japfourme381! You can see the mounting options here: www.kickstarter.com/projects/ridebeeline/beeline-moto-ii-beautifully-simple-nav-for-motorcyclists#:~:text=which%20will%20be%20sold%20separately). Sounds like the 4-hole AMPS would be good for you? If you already have a sticky pad mount, you could use some of those bits (like the arm) to adjust the angle etc.
Awesome! The mini map will be really helpful. I own two beeline-moto (the regular one and the Triumph Version….for my triumph, of course!). But non of them work as i would like to, it tells you to turn when is already too late 😢 so i do not use them any more and i have been unable to sell them second hand. The triumph version is a beautiful paperweight and opens conversation in the office…. But that’s all it does.
My KTM comes with turn-by-turn navigation from the factory, but it also lacks a mini-map.
Hopefully i can sell the two units i have and buy this new version!
Hey @abelmelgar6925! Sorry to hear about these lag issues. Have you ever been in touch with support@beeline.co about it? It may be that your phone's GPS isn't very accurate (and there may be ways to improve this). The beta testers have all reported a big improvement thanks to the mini map 😊
Oh man, what timing! My Beeline Moto arrived just yesterday. Less than 24 hrs later, there’s a new, improved Beeline.
😂🫵🏽🤡
Thanks Hekatoncheiros208! We have enough love in our hearts for both devices and will be continuing to update the original Moto device with new features for years to come. Plus it does have the street cred of being the OG!
I've been looking for something like this! I hope this will become available in the Philippines.
Thanks so much! We are hoping to expand more and more in various territories so, hopefully, we can we can sell into the Philippines soon
I’m loving the beeline moto, and seriously thinking about upgrading to the moto II. Especially the map overlay makes small complex junctions more clear and safe. Can you say anything about the battery life, compared to the original moto? (With backlight off)
Great question - with Moto II you'll get 10-14 hours of ride time on a single charge depending on what the screen brightness is set you. You can also purchase the Powered Mount Insert accessory, which keeps the device topped up by connecting it up to your bike's battery, so you can ride without worrying about recharging.
Great! I ordered my beeline moto II a couple of days ago 😊
Very interested to see how they deal with intricate junctions. That was my main gripe with the first one.
Will the original mounting bracket that I have installed also hold the v2?
Hey @dom252! We had to change the mounting system slightly but we have adapters available (for £4.99 each) which will allow anyone to mount a Moto II onto an original Moto mount 😊
Very excited about this!
Woo, thank you!! We are too 😁
Hi there from Malaysia, I love my Beeline so much. This Moto II looks freaking amazing! Can't wait to go for the upgrade although I wonder if it will work with older mounts or we have to change em as well....?
Thanks Richard! So glad to hear that you love your Moto :). Yes, we will have an adapter available that will allow you to use your existing Moto mounts with the Moto II device 🙌
Greetings from India :) Moto 2 looks great :D Just one question, do we need to keep our smartphone screen on all the while using the moto 2?
My beeline died due to water ingress after a trip to the highlands. I will be keeping an eye on the moto2 when its released and might invest in a new one. I like the ease of navigation and how to manage routes on the app and device.
Sorry to hear that! We have worked hard on waterproofing for Moto II and have also designed it for modular repairability (more on that later) should there ever be any issues with it 😊
Fantastic ! I made so many rides with the first models. (2000kms in 4 days these summer and never lost my route).
Having this « track » view seems to be so nicer.
Great job !
Will you update a bit the original beeline UI that way ?
Hey @Viik! That is so awesome. So glad to hear that you've had great rides with the original Moto! Unfortunately we can't update the UI on the original Moto to include the mini map view because the screen area is just too small (the Moto II has double the screen size) but we will continue to introduce lots of exciting new features for both devices via the app 🤟
@@ridebeeline thanks for the reply, I was expecting that as the screen is smaller.
But I also love the autonomy that provide this small ink screen :)
Anyway, I'm really interested about the new one.
Wow. Congratulations team 🎉
Thanks so much! 😊
Nice! I have a Moto and love it!
So glad to hear! Thank you!!! ❤
Will the mounts from the original moto work for the moto2? Love the original and allredy backed the moto2 on kickstarter🎉
Woo, thank you so much!! Yes, we will be offering adapters in the backer survey which will allow you to make your original Moto mounts compatible with moto II mounts 🙌
Is it possible to add a calimoto gpx file in the beeline? The question why. I don’t want to use my phone because of vibration which can be damaged overtime.
from when it gonna be available any dates ?? and price plz ??
Hello from Russia! Your product is looking very interesting, really nice!
Question about the Universal Mount; does it fit on a Harley Sportster 48 ?
Yes, it should fit fine on your Harley - the larger diameter silicone bands should work great, or alternatively the Bar Clamp Mount would suit it perfectly.
nice, it looks even cooler than the original! well done
Thank you!!!
Is there an effective way to mount these on to a bike with clip ons like a cafe racer build?
Hi @iankane1335 we are developing mounting options for clip ons!
I’ve just come back from a 1700 mile European trip guided solely by my BeeLine v1.0. The only fault I could level at it is that some junctions do need a little more information, particularly in towns. Originally, I liked the purity of v1.0 but I have now changed my mind - Clearly the new model addresses this issue so I suppose I’d better buy one. 😀
Fantastic! If you loved your original Moto we're sure you'll love Moto II, especially for longer road trips.
Does this work with other navigation apps like google maps or Calimoto? And what if i want to listen to music with a Cardo and Sena with bluetooth with the same phone? Does it work simultaneously?
We don't integrate with Google Maps or Calimoto but you can import GPX files into the Beeline app if you would like to ride a route from another platform with your Moto II 😊
All good to listen to another app at the same time as having the Beeline app running!
How to preorder in Taiwan? It looks only available on kickstarter now.😢
That's correct for now! But we do ship to Taiwan from the Kickstarter page 😊. When we go into general sale in May it will be available through our global network of retailers and distributors 🤟
Finally ! After years of using moto 1, it's time for an upgrade !
tell that to a guy who bought his a cpl months ago lol.
Has the mapping update speed improved? Mine never kept up with my progress so I'd constantly miss turns.
Yes, improvements all over the shop! Obviously any lag does depend on the GPS accuracy of the phone you're pairing up but the mini map view has also made a big difference on this front 🙌
@@ridebeeline I would compare Google maps and beeline side by side and beeline would just lag. I don't think it's my Pixel 8 Pro...
Hmm! When was the last time you tried it? We have made strides on this already so you should see an improvement on your current device@@ThomasMacThomas . If you don't, definitely get in touch with support!
Looks awesome 👀😍
Thank you!!
A mount that can lock the device onto the machine would be good, so it does not get taken in petrol stations etc.
Oooh nice suggestion! Passing on to the team - thank you!
@@ridebeeline That's a really good idea
Well done guys, now this I'll get
Thanks so much @JimmySnakes!
Always doubt on getting a Beeline. This version looks like I might do so. Interesting to see how it uses other maps and routes to import.
Ooh thanks @RedBatteryHead! Feel free to give us a shout at support@beeline.co if you have any questions about it 😊
@@ridebeeline to late. I already put myself up on Kickstarter 😄👍
Hope to receive it in may.
Haha love it, thanks@@RedBatteryHead !
What is the power consumption of the app like on a phone? During a long trip I imagine the constant Bluetooth and GPS will take a toll, but is it using only what it needs and not performing excessive checks?
Would like to know how much the ride and charge cradle is going to cost. Thanks!
Hey Boris! No problem - that will be £49 on the backer survey (and that will be the RRP too). You'll need to select a premium mount for it to fit into but your choice of a premium mount is included with pledge level 🙌
Love it, but I'm kind of locked into Calimoto for my trip planning. Will there be a way to use this with other apps?
Hey! We don't currently integrate with any other motorcycling navigation apps but you can export any routes you like from Calimoto as GPX files and import them into the Beeline app 🤟
Can it run off 6 volts for older classic bikes if using the charging mount?
Hey @MrPX207 - good question! We are checking with our engineers in the team 😊
I have just heard back from Charlie! (He's been building Beeline devices since our first one :))
He says:
"We designed for, and only support using the powered mount for operation from a 12v battery. In theory it will work down to about 5.4v supply voltage, but you might experience significantly slower charging, it may fail to charge unless the engine/alternator is running, and it might result in increased load/faster discharge of your battery when the bike is out of use for a while."
Does this new version take Google traffic and street construction info into account for navigation?
Integrating live traffic info is something that we are looking into 😊
@@ridebeeline that would be awesome. This is actually the only feature that is missing for me to make a purchase decision. Here in Germany are so many street constructions or traffic jams. It would be great to be able to avoid them
Bee line advocate here, sign me up!!
Thank you!!! We appreciate that 🤟
If I say that I'm looking for this without knowing it exists, no one will believe me.
I currently have a cb500x, and I was initially thinking of looking for a smartwatch that had the ability to download maps. I would fix it just below the motorcycle's dashboard, where there is an "ideal" space.
However, I didn't find anything cool to take a chance on, and now this sensational video appears.
Here, take all my money, I want one... lol
(I used translate, forgive me for any errors in the translation).
Looks great - will it be possible to trade in the original against a purchase of this new one?
There will not be a trade-in option for existing original Moto users. However, these devices will continue to be supported and updated for years to come and you’ll always have the street cred of owning the original device!
To get riding with some upgraded hardware, we will have mount adapters for original Moto users to either a - use their current original Moto with new Moto II mounts, or to b - use a new Moto II on an existing mount set-up rather than installing new mounting.
Thank you for your support on the original Moto. Our Moto gang is strong and we look forward to continuing to build on that experience!
i just bought my beeline 1 and i see this now, talk about timing
From what i've ridden in it since i got it last week it's good, got a little trouble when there are too many directions at the same intersection though
Hey @fusaro6614, thank you! Glad to hear that you are enjoying your original Moto 😊. Don't worry - we have room in our hearts for both devices and will continue to update the original Moto with lots of new features for years to come. Of course, it will always have the street cred of being the OG device too 🤟
Product looks promising. I am from Chennai, India and interested to preorder. Beeline Fast and Fun is not available here. Does this mean that I would get only compass mode coverage and not the map-based glanceable turn by turn navigation mentioned in 1:10?
Thank you! We don't currently ship to India unfortunately 😞. We have encountered too many customs issues there in the past but we are trying to find an Indian distributor 😊. You'd get both turn-by-turn and also compass mode mapping in India. If you are in a place not covered by Fast and Fun you will get routing from our default routing provider. The best way to test that out is to download our free app and enter a few destinations to see what the app gives you as a route 🤟
Been thinking about getting one for myself in Vietnam. Has the product somehow worked in my country yet? Or will be available in the future?
Hey @ninhvuhungkhang, yes it works worldwide! The best way to check routing in your area is to download the free app and pop in a couple of routes to see what it gives you 😊
@@ridebeeline I see, will check out the app. Thanks for the reply.
I have the original moto unit. Ridden thousands of miles touring the globe with it. Like it when it does not lose cell transmission almost every time I go into a tunnel and between numerous buildings in a city. Did Beeline do fix when that happens - it was really frustrating causing me to stop and reconnect or be taken on a direction i did not want to go.
Thanks @tedhoppe5918! Nice, thank you so much for supporting the original Moto 😊. Because the Moto devices (Moto and Moto II) do piggy-back on your phone's GPS, they will be impacted by confused GPS signal (eg. in very build-up areas of cities or in a tunnel) but this does tend to clear up quickly
Will it compatible with mounting systems from Moto I ?
Absolutely! We have produced an adapter that you can put into your original Moto mounts to make them compatible with the Moto II device 😊
for the most part i'm happy enough with my beeline moto, except for the fact that if you import a gpx the 'back on track' feature doesnt work. i asked about this about 18 months ago and got a 'look into it' response then nada, and it still isn't there.
Oooh sorry to hear about this, thank you for sending this feedback! It might be worth following back up with our support team (support@beeline.co) who can bring it back up with design 👍
@@ridebeeline sent, thanks
Is there a way to make this work with non-beeline apps? Like, is the API documented somewhere? I'd love to buy one, but having to use the beeline app is a no-go for me.
Unfortunately not! The Beeline app is much of the powerhouse behind our devices and really does provide the best experience! May I ask what would put you off using it?
@@ridebeeline I'm in love with the scenic power planner (especially on the iPad) and I have years of history in this app (routes, tracks, POI groups etc). So I'm reluctant to change. Scenic supports a few bluetooth gadgets already, so I had hopes that beeline could be added.
No worries, I'll watch the beeline development. Maybe someday...
Looks excellent.
Thank you!!
The old one did not communicate that well with my phone at the time (Oneplus something). We tried so many things. In the end, you bought it back. Very good of you! Thank you!
Another thing was the difficulties in narrow streets/city riding. The arrow was just too late.
So when I look at this new one, where a bit of the map is showing, that bit is gone. So this new one looks very promising.
Living in Denmark, is it better to wait and see the device on the shelf at my dealer, or can I order one from you? Thanks!
Hey John, thanks so much for this comment! Sorry to hear that your phone didn't get on well with the original Moto - thanks for giving it a go. You can pre-order one from us here: www.kickstarter.com/projects/ridebeeline/beeline-moto-ii-beautifully-simple-nav-for-motorcyclists and they'll also be available via our distributor/retailer networks - across the world and including Europe - from May so you might be able to see one at the dealer then too!
@@ridebeeline Thank you! Well, I don't have an account on kickstarter so I wait untill I see one at my dealers! This new one looks very promising, indeed! Thank you!
if you fund for the "metal edition", is it the gunmetal or silver one?
Hey @bloodiex5812 - if you back for a metal edition you will get a choice between gunmetal grey and silver in the backer survey (which we will share with all backers after the campaign ends) 🤟
@@ridebeeline perfect, thanks for the quick response
Any feature for alerting for speed traps? (like in other "normal" apps 😅)
Not just at the moment but we are already working on more and more features in the app!
But we have to pay a subscription for these updates?
Awww man I just bought my beeline 3 months ago 😭. Wish I waited for this instead
😂😂 🫵🏽🤡
Thank you! Don't worry - we have enough love in our hearts for both devices and will continue to update the original Moto device for many years to come 😊Plus it will always be the OG 🤟
@@ridebeeline I was backer #5 for the first 200. I’ll just sell the original one. Excited to get this one in!
@@ThatCleanMT🤡
Oh wow!! Number 5 🙌@@chi.marvine Thank you!
Does this come with an updated app where you can download maps ? As I don’t have a data plan and don’t have internet connection on the road. Other than that I love the original beeline. I have a few classic Shovelheads and don’t want to route power for a ‘big’ gps like a Zumo. It’s so easy to strap the beeline to a mirror stalk with the elastic bands. I also use it on my Piaggio scooter.
According to their FAQ on the site you can get the directions set up before you leave a place with Wi-Fi and it will work
@@NostalgiaHDOS I know, thats what I do, But it cannot re-route on the fly when you encounter closed streets and whatnot
@@bmp72 Yes, you are both correct! We don't currently have an option to download maps for offline use but we are looking into it as a feature for later on 🤟
@@ridebeeline well, backer 1621 hopes this option comes soon !
This looks amazing, the map feature is exactly what I've been wanting. I'm worried about the open usb c port though, is it waterproof for raining riding?
Great question - the device is IP67 rated, and the USB port has a seal to prevent any water or dust ingress.
Finalmente lançaram a moto 2!
will the moto 2 be able to be used for cycling as well as motorcycling?
Yes, you can use Moto II for cycling navigation!