THE RUTLAND CORKSCREW
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- Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
- IN THIS ADVENTURE WE EXPLORE THE OLD RUTLAND RR CHATHAM DIVISION - AFFECTIONATELY NAMED THE CORKSCREW. IT RAN FROM NORTH BENNINGTON, VT TO CHATHAM, NY.
#LOSTRAILBEDS #GOPRO #HISTORY #EXPLORE #ADVENTURE #RAILROADS #DOCUMENTWHILEITSHERE
THANKS TO "THROUGH THE BERKSHIRES TO BOSTON - THE BOSTON & ALBANY RAILROAD" BY JOHN M. HAM WITH RAILROAD HISTORIAN ROGER A. LILLER
Fantastic work. The hour flew by.
love the before and after pictures, and the old Macks are the best, keep up the good work and stay safe and healthy
YES! I've been a Mack guy since I could say the word! Thanks for watching!
Thanks Russ for another excellent video.
Woo Hoo!! Glad you enjoyed!!
Thanks I got to ride a train to Manchester back in the 90's when the Green Mountain was running excursions from N. Benn.
NICE! We need MORE excursions on tourist lines in this Country! Thanks as always friend!!
Very Nice
Thank You!
Thanks for a wonderful video, Russ. Better than any hour sitting in front of the Netfix or the Hula Hoop or whatever they're watching these days.
LOL.....thank you!!
Good Morning, How's Everything on this Beautiful Sunday Morning? I just watched your video and it was So interesting! It's Fantastic How many Abandoned Rail Lines are out there!!! Growing up on Long Island, there were a lot of abandoned ones on the Long Island Railroad. And to this Day, You can still see the remains of the right of away! Living in Northeast Pennsylvania, there are a lot of ones at a Railroad and you Can still see remaining 😢 of the Roadbed. As a Matter of fact, Route 17 is once a Remaining of the NYO&W! Tremendous a lot of history, With that Railroad. NYO&W went out of Business in 1957! Once Again, Thank You so much for your interest Video of the Rutland corkscrew. 👍🚂🛣️🏍️💨
Glad you enjoyed...Thanks!
@@lostrailbeds8289 Good Morning Russ, Really sorry about the Misspelled words! I guess I have to Check it out before I press Send! Lol. Hope that you're doing Well! Joe Scarfo 🏍️📷🚂
Excellent presentation, again! Love the stonework on the abutments at the 6 minute +/- mark.
Sunday - just watched this video fot the second time! What a remarkable tour of railroad history, thank you for your work. Will you be starting tours?
This video made my treadmill time FLY by!
Thank you!!
Glad to help out on your Workout-Sunday!!
Thank you for all that you do to show us the beauty of these old rail beds. You live in some beautiful country.
Really amazing country out there. Folks take of the old structures much better than they do here in NC
Yes, the Northeastern U.S. sure does have some beauty!! Thanks!
Fun trip! Thanks again!
You're welcome!
Another great video Russ! I’ve always liked the old corkscrew route. The bumping post by the Mobil sign was the NYC Harlem division. The Lebanon Valley drag strip is paved right on top of the old rail bed.
YES! I had shot footage of the Lebanon Valley Speedway, with commentary.....but had to cut it due to video already too long! Haha!
@@lostrailbeds8289 Maybe cut it into parts?
We do that on occassion, but lose continuity sometimes.@@realmongo7565
This was a very interesting one. Thank you for all the info let's find out about that locomotive.
I've got a lead and will be following up! Thank you!
Thanks for documenting, Russ. Great stuff.
Thanks...once again!!
Quite the outing you had Russ. It is a struggle to stay off private property sometimes. We know why we are there but nobody else does 😆
The bridge supports were/are amazing, then the picture at the end... wow! Great job once again
Thank you Kevin! I'm headed back to the train in the driveway......got a tip from someone about it, and I think it's going to be a cool story. You and I do find some awesome stuff!
I'll bet those stone abutments that curve towards the creamery building are a ramp for the farmers to drive their wagons up to the building to unload their milk cans.😊
Could very well be! It sure is an interesting building. In fact-on the whole trip it seemed like I found cool stuff with every single stop!
If ya go over Taconic Trail into North Adams and you happen to be exploring B&M, stop in if you like Mack and Brockway trucks, Oliver tractors, motorgraders, cranes and other equipment.
WOW! You read my mind...I was JUST over route 2 from 22 in NY to I-91 yesterday...August 3rd!! In the misty gray murky foggy driving conditions I thought I saw some old iron sitting on the left (North side of 2) My wife wouldn't let me turn around!! Haha
The spot by the Hoosick River Bridge scene was is one of the places where B&M had two main tracks on different rights of way. Two predecessor roads built lines which both merged into the Fitchburg Railroad, which merged into Boston and Maine.
Nice, thanks for info! It sure is a great spot- right there at the bridge. What's up with "Indian Massacre Rd.?"
The other track went behind the farmhouse. The lines split at the state line, came back at Petersburg Jct. In Hoosick Falls, one track went over the other. At Johnsonville is where the separate rights of way ended.
Thank You! When 10/ 20/ 50 years pass by from now so much of this will be lost without folks writing things down on backs of photos, documenting, and sharing with others so, Thank You!@@brianburns7211
Love the trip. Coffee ☕️ and some cinnamon toast in my ‘easy chair’ as I watched. Thanks for sharing. A lot of history gone 😢.
This was a fun trip for sure. History is disappearing too fast!
Very enjoyable, and informative, thank you. So the Rutland RR ended in North Bennington, or just the Corkscrew branch? What railroad took over from that point?
The Rutland continued North to the border!
6:00 nice stone work on the R/R piers.
They are absolutely gorgeous!
That old building,at the 56-57 min.mark, was an old freight house, and a couple of tracks have been removed.Bennington station is one of the most beautiful ever!!
Yes, I know I referred to it as a "station"....you're right it DEFINITELY is a freight house. The Historic North Bennington Station is beautiful!
Go up to the house with the locomotive, knock, and if nobody is home, leave a note on the door with your name, number, and you tube channel name and ask permission to come look at the locomotive.
You might be surprised and they will let you😊
YES! It is in the works!
The railroad operator that Genesee and Wyoming assigned to operate the former Panam railways is called The Berkshire and Eastern
Aha! Yet another RR name I have to remember! Thanks!
o--there was a railroad from Pittsfield up to North Adams of recent times. (NS 2024 re-building a connection to CSX) The rail trail crew took it over except a few miles on the north saved as a tourist railroad.
A sort of mystery railroad Lee Massachusetts to Springfield. Ran one or 2 years. Actually trolley line. Mystery ? Trolley ? The quarry in OTIS used to use it for freight and row smells way past 1919 !!
Bennington VT. A railroad to Glastonbury. Trolley ? The Glastonbury Triangle. Not me getting strange but seems people do vanish from that area by history. The Hoosac-Wilmington RR continued north into the mountains as the Deerfield River Railroad a logging railroad. Other things. Send me a bill for calorie intake. (I mean a joke where people follow my oddities)
Rutland RR ? I support unions but they were told their job was gone if they struck. They did and the RUTLAND folded instant. Smart ?
Some of my spelling might be off.
RR history..always something to snoop out...
Hard to name all the old RR stations gone even in recent times. I guess nobody to spend the money but hope maybe more attention 2024 to save anything left. Maybe bike warehouses ?? !!! Excuse my rants here but if one knew how remaining railroads are being destroyed by the crowd. Don't save the railroad !! Trillions of taxpayer money. Population 10 million and 3 people per month ride the bike-way.
I do know some of the infamous Glastonbury history. Spooky and alluring! Every time I run between Bennington and Brattleboro I always want to stop and explore....one of these days.
hey..keep up the good works !!!! In future who has videos/pictures of railroads before more reach their demise ! Still wonder where old pictures went.
Glastonbury !! I never hung around the woods THERE but alot of close areas. Sometimes when one talks about vanishing people one might place themselves into the mystery pool !! (not me)
Railroads. In old days most all freight was carried by such. Maybe today but no tax support so railroads ? (people like to pay more taxes) Quarry railroads..Mine railroads...Industrial railroads etc etc. Trollies were railroads excerpt often in streets but when rural... flimsy railbeds...
Will post later.... o--NS in Massachusetts a YOU-TUBE site MILLERS RAILFAN seems to catch CSX and a few NS trains around Massachusetts... (nothing to do with me)
panamsouthern.com panamsouthern.com/
another ps..I am not trying to take over your channel here !!! I got an Amazon Fire TV and started spending time surfing you-tube but can no t post comments from a TV. So turned computer on. ME ? i always enjoyed putting HISTORY on web sites but can never keep up with such.
Steam Engines. I know nothing about such but my o my all those things gone. I know zero about their restoration. Somebody must have a known database of such.
I recall some would be on display at various places. Some guru restore ? Seems the 'innards' would still be on inside (????) White River Junction VT ? i recall some large ones on display. Nice to see any chugging on again.
Out of here for now. I just thought for me when I see a map it is easier to digest where things are. I tried to straighten out the few maps I left on a link but for a web page it needs more corrections. For me...deferred stuff.. I started saving some maps but never went any further.. NEW YORK STATE had tons of various regionals and probably PENNSYLVANIA too. I can't imagine PENNSYLVANIA and all the lines GONE. The mountain passes !!!! Gotta in future collect maps and add them to a web page, As said if one sees COPYRIGHT ignore. Added many years ago to maybe deter people swiping but they are not mine to begin with. Old frustrations making websites and next all ones content under somebody else trying to make money.(with your stuff)--and I am non-profit--
You-Tube..hmmm get rich must cost 10x more just to drive around...
www.shepaug.net/old-railroad/index.html
It's a unregulated mess of a industry! CSX does not want Hoosick Tunnel ! But the state of Massachusetts is going to double track the B&A and increase and develop passenger service On the B&A and the Boston and Troy! CSX was caught lying in the hearings of the take over of Pan Am! About how busy the B&T was!
Wow, thanks for this back-story! Railroads sure can be confusing!!
Your videos get more interesting. HISTORY to be lost. Like my complaints about years past WHERE are all the old railroad pictures ? I guess nobody took any. I am the one who talked about my old slides that decomposed. I am still trying to digest some. Slides/Photos prior to digital cameras 20/24 pictures per roll and developing. End up with few pictures and what ? Where is that ??? !!! ROW's all look the same without some ID. I see alot of railroad clubs going over somebodies old pictures when they died and hmmm where is that ?? what ?? Will write more in message 2.
So true!
CSX has the rail line from Pittsfield to Eastern Massachusetts. Norfolk Southern has the rail line from Albany area/North Adams to Ayer,Massachusetts via the Hoosac Tunnel. Height limits they were given rights to use CSX line to south and 2023/4 are still re-laying rail in NY to re-connect their lines to CSX there AGAIN. THEN run double-stacks via that route.
Old Boston and Maine NO CSX but Norfolk Southern !! RECENT a new railroad Berkshire Eastern gets that line (G&W?). I am not sure if NS still gets the route. I mentioned BEWARE of tunnel because NS runs high speed intermodal trains via it now and a person in tunnel ? They did re-hab the line to Ayer, Massachusetts, Berkshire Eastern ? Customers ? unknown
Old PanAm/Guilford destroyed about everything. It is noted they never lost a dime but took most rail routes to the grave, Connecticut ? I think now Berkshire Eastern but not sure if NS rights still. Due to CSX buyout of Pan Am this stuff is what evolved.
NOW this last video ? I see something better than a paved bike trail minus anything historic. Hey. I like bikes but.. These people are a disease !! They are not interesting in a railroad or history !! Oddly people can walk/hike anywhere in the woods and bikes can travel the roads. o--a taxpayer row just for them !! paved like the Interstates. Get rid of any history. They hang around railroad forums now trying for info to grab rail lines of any usage !!
--o next ?? These rail trails are dangerous !! me nuts ?? The Appalachian Trail has its list of crimes including rare murders, Urban Bike Trails ? In Connecticut many robberies of bikers. Where are the police ? There are none. Best place to rob somebody, I might sound nuts but truth. NOW taxpayer money for more police !! New TV SERIES !!! The Rail Trail Police. Of coarse the debate of a ROW lost forever BUT a paved InterState ?
That back and forth info on ownership/ governing lines makes me dizzy!! Don't get me started on Rail Trails and the folks who push them down taxpayers throats!@@shepaug
o..ps !!!! I missed your rail trail comments...
If a walking trail WONDERFUL. Paved...bikes at 115 mph....historic stuff unsightly..gone.... 345345345345345245 million for new bike trail o-there an active rr there ? who cares
Did you treat yourself to a cup of coffee and a cider doughnut ?
Yes....I did!
Oh oh oh, bad boy, you missed a bit if i can humbly say.
The big fancy North Bennington station was the Rutland (if i´m not wrong, by memory of Rutland book). The second station was probably the freight shed.
From the statue of the guy watching its clock , then you have that impressive station. Tracks curving left is the mainline. The one going straight is/was the Corkscrew, just like you said. Alive or dead. Well hard to say. But from satellite view it´s in use for car storage. Street view show no cars, rusty rails with dirt packed crossings. Meaning no trains passed there since a while.
But Google Earth shows on north side of bridge overpass the track on road 279, a huge load of fresh ballast on the main and passing track. South of that 279 bridge, Rutland bridge pass over route 7A and concrete walls were erected in 1914 and are not in good shape. Track toward Bennington then comes a bicycle path somewhere. There is a photosphere shot on
Rutland´s bridge over " Roaring branch Walloomsac Brook ".
Bennington station isn´t small either with a caboose on piece of track located on 135 Depot street. Freightshed was probably on 115 County street.
So as a resume, major costly bridges works were made betwen 1914 and 1925 and track was shut down in 1953 or about just a quarter century after. Don´t remember leasing dates by NYC,
Then we know the financially decrepit Rutland that tryied its best to survived. All the rolling stock, locomotives, tracks were falling apart (Penn Central made a good copy of the Rutland). The only good stuff were the 10 (??) new Alco steam engines that finally went to the torch at age 10, to pay for GE 70 toners, S2, RS1 and RS3. The last try being in New cabooses and 400 Pullman boxcars in flashy green and yellow sheme.
A long strike that last more than a year was the last nail in the coffin. Rutland was dead. A few trains ran after that to pick up left over stuff like speeders, tools.
A long study on what could be saved. No traffic was estimated north of Burlington. Track was removed with Rutland´s Alco. A small portion was left in Ogdansburg that at that time had huge grain silos (gone) up to Norwood. Then track goes to Massena. The nicknamed Old and Late Coming (Ogdansburg & Lake Champlain) parallel to the border from Norwood to Rouses Point (NY) rails were pulled off. It´s the begining of Rutland trail Some stations are still there. The most impressive is in Malone at 14 Elm street with the 2 towers. Track was betwen them. The building betwen them wasn´t there but just a roof was there. Station is close to the river (hard to see with Earth). On other side of the river, roughly
6 Amsden street, the big new building and parking lot was the big Rutland shop from 1840 (??). I´m glad to have 2 sand stones of it.
Gees, 2 bricks...of "huge shops". East of the station track ran in diagonal, crossed the NYC. Today the 2 railroads are gone. NYC station survive at 341 Elm street (Ben & Jerry) with diamonf that was behind. Rutland Rouses Point was torn down years ago. Was almost against the D&H one. Left over of wooden trestle on Lake Champlain. Then Vermont. Nothing left in Alburgh that was an important junction.
Chateauguay (NY) station with a boxcar.
Sorry, a bit mixt up geographically speaking.
Stone piles of bridge at St Régis river at Brasher Falls, Deer river at
North Lawrence.
Freight shed (??) In Cherubusco.
Station on Station Hill road in Ellenburg Depot.
Real nice Moers station (private home). Be gentle & respectful please with piece of track, a speeder and D&H wood caboose at
109 Maple street.
Rouses Point station is gone was about 150 feet north of the nice, in service D&H at 68 NY 276. The marina is on the Rutland.
D&H shop left over with roundhouse, turntable and standing tower at 94 Chapman. Still remember when it was full of tracks and equipment. With Google Earth you have in province of Québec, Canada a nice one made in stone in Lacolle at 23 rue Ste Marie. It was used for customs. Former Napierville Junction railroad that belong to D&H.
Well enough for today. Thanks for the ride. It´s a part of Rutland where i´ve been only in books.
Great recap of the line and infrastructure! Thank you much!!
Glad you liked it. Was afraid of too much bla bla off context content. Just share to you znd others what i know.
Vermont was a pionner in saving tracks. Sadly Montpellier & Barre and Lamoille Valley didn´t make it.
Ya Lamoille Valley. What do you think of that title that resume its lenghty death " The boxcar that
killed Lamoille Vallet railroad " ?
For many that sentence is nonsense and mystery. But it´s fact. One day may be if youvgo there, i´ll explain.
Be safe my friend.
And maybe I'll write a song about that incident!@@danielfantino1714