Got to say I was going to say something because of your description. Fully loaded 2023 GX460 was not cheap! I actually did my own research and wheels and tires I put on hers were identical. She loves them and personally for me I’d do the same other than tires would be bigger.
How does this video not have more likes? It’s actually a great video. Edited well. Good videography. People don’t understand. Especially the dad jokes 💪🏽 Providing the data base link deserves a like alone.
Well done! I especially like how you laid out your process of selection! Having used 33" KO2s on my 98 LX470, I am very impressed by them. They take all the abuse I can dish out and never flinch. They aren't that in mud since the blocks quickly fill up with mud and they effectively become slicks! But the same packing behavior works wonders in snow! Finally, they are a little slippery on ice, even more so than some all season tires!
Thanks for the info and humor 👍🏼 Shared your video with a buddy of mine that’s wanting to put rims and tires on his 2023 GX It will be very helpful to him on making his choices.
I'm on the same boat as you. We are long time hikers and recently had two kids (1 and 3 years old). So I bought a GX460 as well to scratch my itch for the outdoors. I actually bought a roof rack first as you did, it really opened up the back seats and carry additional useless stuff on the roof. Now I need wheels and tires. I'll most likely go with the 265/70/17 as well mainly because it will fit in the spare tire location and adding a swing out arm or a bumper seems to be an overkill, especially in my wallet. So thank you for re-confirming my doubts, really wanted the 285/70/17. I do want a lift but I don't think I would be doing any rock crawling anytime soon, maybe next year...Check out Ironman 4x4, they have some great products for GX460. And thanks for the video
Thanks! Subscribe for more content. I've got reviews of the Front Runner Jerry can, the worlds biggest SUV tent and North Face warranty repairs coming soon. We'll probably lift it a bit before the end of the year too if the economy doesn't get any worse...
Love the humor and content! Although, on a GX470/GX460 stock suspension to fit 285/70/17 tires, no lift or a body mount chop is needed BUT trimming and fender modifications are necessary as you have mentioned. Keep the same size tires but instead lifted, no body mount chop is needed when your alignment for the casters are pushed forward (4+). A body mount chop is in order when you run crazy negative (-30 or more) offset wheel and tire size of 35"+ or equivalent. Just a friendly PSA.
I appreciate the additional detail. I just went off the GXOR tire wiki which I think was crowd sourced. I bought a BMC kit and then realized there's now way I'd need it. What are you running?
@@WastingTimeInTheWoods Reading, asking questions, and researching is key. I'm on the GXOR fb group as well. I have a 2015 GX460 base. It's currently lifted on Dobinsons 3" IMS suspension lift with Apache upper control arms. Wheels are SCS Rays10 17x8.5 with -10 offset wrapped with 285/70/17 Nitto Ridge Grapplers. You can see my truck through my Instagram account: 15GX460.
@@yota22RE81 Looks good! I'm leaning toward the IMS myself. I'm thinking I'll go with the set that's gives you 1" with the factory springs and then maybe do a spring later on if I decide to add a bumper and/or winch. I assume you went with their 2" lift springs and the 1" lift struts? How does it ride on and off trail?
@@WastingTimeInTheWoods the IMS system is a coil over type strut. So you can adjust the preload to your liking (to an extent). The springs are set to 3" and are the comfort coils while the rears are 2" medium coils. I don't have any plans to add bumpers down the line so that's the route I went. Dobinsons, like other brands will have entry level struts where the coil seat is already positioned and non adjustable, which I think is what you're referring to. Coil overs can give you more adjustability should you change out the coils to a firmer type for heavy gear down the road. And on road and offroad handling has greatly improved! Little firmer on the pavement but where it shines is offroad, responsive yet supple on hard bumpy roads. You won't be disappointed!
@@yota22RE81 I think they have two of the IMS coil overs that will work in addition to the entry level (yellow) you're talking about. Both IMS models have an adjustable spring perch but one is 1" higher before the preload. One is suitable for a 0"-2.5" lift depending on the spring and preload and the other is suitable for a 1"-3.5". With the second you can keep factory springs and get a 1" lift with no preload which is what I think I'll do. Maybe... : ) Great to hear they're preforming well for you. Let me know if you have any problems and thanks for subscribing!
I got my 5x Method 701 and BFG A/T 265/70R17 on Black friday 2021. Thank you for your video !! I am looking forward to watch your Ironman 4x4 lift video.
I couldn't quite tell from this video but at the start I thought he said you can go with this tire and wheel in stock format but near the end he shows heat gun and cutting? Did you have to do anything to prevent any sort of rubbing?
Your tire rub with that tire size is from changing your offset from +40 to 0. The sweet spot for FJ cruisers, Tacos, Gx460 is +15. Also, for the finish on those wheels never use wheel cleaner. It will etch or leave them looking permanently hazy. Finally, when you ask a manufacture “which wheels are best for my vehicle?”, well theirs of course. Lol
@@WastingTimeInTheWoods Hi buddy, thank you so much for always posting those very useful info about GX! I've also got a set of Method 701 + K02 (265/70/r17), so the same issue you've had before. Here is my "cheap" solution w/o modifying the clearance around the tires: 1. 2.5'' lift spacer on the front only (only body lift, not suspension, so the center of gravity not moving up so much) 2. 1.25'' or 1.5'' wheel spacers to increase the offset. Prob. solved.
So I recently bought 265/70/17 wildpeaks with 17x9 +12 offset blkrhino rapids. Would you think I’ll get some rubbing or should I have gone with 17x8.5 0 offset?
Lotsa peeps run 275/65-18 (32.1”) on stock height and no major mods (just removal of inner fender screw)… I think the 17” equiv would be 275/70… so, in-b/n your 265 and a too-large 285.
Thanks! Let me know if you like the travel stuff like the latest Ghost town video. Trying to decide if I should do more or go back to more how to content.
All I have to say about the BFG A/T type tires is I will not run them. I've had them break loose in snowy/icy conditions too many times to trust them. On light vehicles (jeeps/small pickups) I run Goodyear duratracks, on bigger vehicles ( full size suvs and pickups) I run Cooper A/Ts. I know BFGs are the popular choice. But not tagging a guardrail or sliding off the road is more important to me than "being popular"
Thanks buddy. Its been a long summer with no sitters but Ive got one more shot already and a couple others written. Should have more regular content once its cool enough to shoot in the garage again. I appreciate the support!
You are an awesome narrator...Bravo on the comedy side of your content. Keep up the the videos and the content on the GX 460...Im watching your video because i have a stock GX 460 2013 base model. Trying to figure all the upgrades out with research and RUclips video content like yours. Are you still running the 265 70r 17 with the Iron man lift you just put on your gx? I think you did a 2.5 inch. Nice ride though...Im glad the 265 still fit in the spare tire area otherwise you'd hsve to buy a swingarm tire carrier on your hitch.
Yep same setup. I’d rather run 33s, but I don’t want to tire carrier cause my garage is kind of tight and 33s are 50% longer stopping than 265/70’s. I drive mostly on the road because it’s my daily driver, so I’ll probably stick with those. New videos on my aux beam, lighting system, third row delete platform and gazelle tent coming soon. Thanks for watching!
Amazing video and really helpful ! Keep up the great work! Did you end up doing any speedometer callibration with the KO2s? What's the variance in speed that you are getting?
Didn’t even know you could do that : ). I drive like an old man so not too worried about it. My tires are only like 3% larger than stock anyway. Thanks for watching!
Good video as all of yours are. Like others have said, I like a little humor in there along with the information. Also, you got new wheels which have rims. Rims are a part of the wheel but is not the same thing as a wheel. But stuff like that bugs me and not most people...
@@WastingTimeInTheWoods there were other versions of the AT3 that were recalled due to bulging and separation issues. The XLTs weren’t on that list, but i suspect their issues run deeper. I have a highway version of the Discoverer Cooper, and 2/4 have separated at 10k and 25k miles www.consumerreports.org/car-recalls-defects/cooper-recalls-tires-due-to-risk-of-sidewall-separation/
I think he just meant that Method sells the most in that size to GX 460 owners. 17x7.5 is probably the most popular aftermarket wheel since that's the only size the TRD Pro Sema wheels come in and those are more popular than any other wheel across all Toy 4x4's. What were you thinking?
Okay sweet. You scared me a bit. If my wife found out I bought the wrong size wheels after spending two months screwing around over it I might be divorced by Monday ; )
@@WastingTimeInTheWoods no way! they look great and for the type of offroading you (and i) do they're perfect. for airing down lower sometimes a narrower wheel can be more beneficial. for 265s that would be max 8 inches, but that won't come into play with anything we would be getting into in stock suspension IFS vehicles. for me, i just want to find a set of take-off TRD off-road premiums or sequoia split 5 spokes, but if i had the cash I'd get a set just like yours (but bronze).
Great vid. Super helpful. Very well written...spoken. Deliverd like a pro. Communications major? Thanks for posting. Love my Gx. How are those KO2 tires in the snow?
Thanks for the compliments! Not a com major but I am a video producer. II've only really had the tires up in the snow once so far and it was really more mud. I did make a video though - ruclips.net/video/Uh-jc6zOMEw/видео.html
Solid video. Hilarious at points. Thanks for tips. Still confused on what will fit stock considering you went with 265 and it still rubbed. Did the cutting you did count as a body mount chop?
Glad you enjoyed it. The confusion comes from the various tire treads across manufacturers. While the overall size is the same between manufacturers, I believe the more aggressive tread, the more "squared off" the corners of the tire, which is where it rubs when you have the wheels turned 45 degrees. Worse in reverse due to the suspension sag. I think that's the main difference in rubbing results between tires of the same size from different manufacturers. BFG KO2's seem to be more square at the sidewall and rub a bit more as a result. I didn't do a body mount chop (yet). That Dremmel was just me working the running boards : ) I'm just clear of the body mounts with the 265's. I only rub a bit of plastic so there's no damage to the tires. I think the only reason I still rub is that my passenger spring is sagging bit. I have a .5" lean currently that I plan to address when I lift it and likely replace the springs. Good luck!
Here's a link to the exact set-up I bought. It's an affiliate link so if you end up buying through amazon it encourages me to make more vids, but don't feel obligated. Have a healthy and happy holiday and thanks for watching! - amzn.to/38sm67I (Wheels), amzn.to/34DUCea (Tires)
The truck looks great! I'm thinking about going with the same size tire. I have the exact same GX as you, color and all. How are you feeling about the tire size after 2 years? Do you regret not going larger or are they just right? Any major hit in mpg? Any feedback is greatly appreciated. Thank you
I don’t regret not being able to carry a spare under the car. I don’t wheel hard so Im not the most credible source for tire size. I ran it up a steep hill a couple months ago and it used the atrac like crazy near the top (a real shorts checker). I thought maybe 33’s would have helped… then I realized I never hit the center locker which probably would have been a much bigger help over another 1.5” of tire.
Thanks. Have you had any adverse effects from using the tires? There’s people out there that claim heavy tires like BF Goodrich on SUV’s are a bad idea.
Loved the video bro..I have a Prado which is very similar to your GX. I did a 2 inch Dobinsons suspension lift. My stock tires were 265/65/R17. I have also installed a 30mm wheel spacers for better stability. Now i want to get all terrain tires. Am confused whether I should stick with 265/65 or increase the tire size. Can you suggest the best tire size for me. Also I have heard increasing tire size decreases the pick up power and creates variations in speedometer and actual speeds..
Bigger tires mean it takes more torque to move and more power to stop. I stuck to 265/70/17's becuase that's the biggest that can fit in my spare underneath. You shouldn't have that problem as I think the Prado door supports at least a 33'. If I drove around town mostly and trailed it on the weekends, I'd stick to around the size you're looking at. That will keep it's stopping distance and road manners tame. Check out my favorite off-roading Aussie's take on it - ruclips.net/video/jO6QYM59ANw/видео.html
How much space does the rear kdss bar need from the spare? I just got a spare mounted (Method 701 with BFG 265 70 R17) and there is only a couple of millimeters of clearance.
Mine presses into the tire under suspension compression (with even compression, not flex). Doesn't really matter I don't think as long as you have clearance at ride height. I think it presses into the tire more under compression but the force on the end links are so much greater than the friction generated by the of the tire pressing into the KDSS bar, shouldn't bind... or really matter. Wheeled mine all weekend and never noticed my spare : )
Great video! I have a 2012 gx that im slowly up grading for family adventure.... im thinking about a daystar spacer lift... curious to know your thoughts if you end up researching lifts next!
Save yourself some headaches skip the spacer lift. All they do is compress your shock absorbers, degrading your ride comfort. Lift is provided by longer coils, not shorter ones.
I agree with Gibbs. Ive been thinking about bilstein 5100’s but also considering new coils. Im not sure spring perch adjustments (like on the 5100’s) are much better than spacers. Still wrestling with it since I don’t wheel currently. Definitely a show when I get there but now that it’s getting cold I have a few months to think it through.
Were the hub centric rings needed with the method wheels? From the info I’ve seen online their hub bore is 106.25 and the GXs hub bore is 106. I’ve heard of rings being needed on other vehicles. Looking at gray 704s for my gray 460.
What they told me was that the rims were hub centric. I assume those numbers you're quoting are in mm? I would think .25mm would be just enough for manufacturing tolerances. They're super easy to get on the phone though. They were great all 7 times I called ; )
Nah, I want to know if I have a low tire around town and don’t mind the light on the weekends. Adding a cap monitor would be the best of both worlds I guess but I just glance at the tires once in a while.
Gear choose mate, looking for the same for my Prado. I am wondering whether 265 tire is covered by wheel arch while mounted on 17 inch rim with 0 offset?
I went from about 13.6 average (I rarely leave the neighborhood and let it idle a bit) to 12.7. I'm going to have a fuel service and replace the spark plugs next week so I hope I get a bit of a bump. Tires didn't change much though. Thanks for watching!
@@WastingTimeInTheWoods are you considering a suspension lift? I've seen lots of lifts videos for 4runners and tacos but not enough about GX, lm considering the Australian made ironman or icon, our budget its $2to3K
Working through it now actually. Waiting on Ironman to get back to me but looking like fcp’s. Stay tuned. Finally dropping a new video this weekend and will be back to regular updates soon.
@@WastingTimeInTheWoods cool, also depends what's your budget, but king lift its $2,700 which lm also considered, due to ironman kits have been out of stock for a few months
@@Maximus01776 Hey, sorry I missed this. Yes. Working on finishing up the order. Likely end of the summer before I get to it but I plan to do a comprehensive lift video around the install...
Thanks for the vid. What caused the scuffing on the wheels? Did the coating just wear off or is it scratched? I like methods but some of those marks have me questioning
That's just trail dust my friend. They're also matte black. I have been giving my oldest driving lessons in the truck but I do believe they are still clean (surprisingly).
You've caught me ; ) Yeah, the wildpeaks are a great value but you're married to tires for (hopefully) 5 years or so. Since I do a lot more city driving than off-road I thought the KO2's were a bit better balance. That's why I focused on the the three I thought looked aggressive but had street pedigrees. That and all my friends run KO2's and love them. In my research the only draw back on the KO2's was that early on there seemed to be a lot of them going 'out of round' but I think that's been sorted out through manufacturing. Thanks for watching and be sure to sub for more!
The bead channel thing might be kind of a gimmick, not sure, but I wanted to go to a 17" rim anyway which in itself is superior to the factory 18" for the increased air volume.
Use the business inquiry email address on my YT channel page or you can find me in ih8mud @jakemccurdy. Would love to hear what you’re doing. Talk soon!
I been contemplating for a long time if downgrading from 18 would give it more of a better ride quality...I dont off roade much so I dont care for that feature but comfort is important to me, any suggestioon? thanks.
The ride quality around town is almost worth it alone. It's dramatically cushier, but I went to a 1" taller and wider tire (overall) too so that likely contributed. It's really capable with just the larger tires/smaller rims and super comfy so I'm in no rush to lift mine. If I didn't off road much, I'd look for a set of 5th gen 4 Runner take-offs. You can get a set of 4 near new TRD 17"s with 265/70/17ish tires for around $1250 on craigslist in my neighborhood. I paid twice that but got 5 and the method wheels which are a bit fancier. Thanks for watching and I hope you and your family are safe and healthy!
I love them. The bigger size makes for a much nicer ride. I cant hear them at all. The rack creates a small amount of wind noise so Ive never noticed any tire sound, but I only take the freeway to get to the trailhead since I work from home.
Great vid! Do you think your wheels would’ve rubbed using a 255/70/17 instead? I’m thinking about purchasing the same methods for my 460, but don’t want to bmc or have to trim if I don’t have to. Thanks!
Thanks! Not sure but mine only rubs on the passenger side now and only in reverse. My passenger side has a .5” lean which I think is the issue (spring sag, not kdss). I plan to correct that when I lift it. If you don’t want to do any mods and run ko2’s I would go a half inch smaller overall that what I did. Use a tire size calc to compare sizes - tiresize.com/comparison/ Good luck!
Just checked and that size looks exactly a half in shorter and .3 more narrow. I would think that would work without having to push out plastic but no guarantee. Thanks for watching!
I wanted the largest tire I could fit underneath in the spare location... and an excuse to convince my wife we need to lift the front : ) It was an easy sell.
For the moment. My ironman FCP kit finally showed up a week or so ago so I'll probably do the lift video in January once I have time to get it installed.
Sound likely since mine only rubs in reverse at full lock. Depends on the tire though. 265/70's don't rub for a lot of people but they seem to on KO2's much more.
@@zzzgarage2704 Oh, dude. That sucks. I hate to tell you this but my truck is 6'5" with the tires and no lift to the top of the cross bars. 3ish inches more for the rack. 265/70's are only supposed to be an inch taller than stock so you might already be driving on the biggest tires you can take to work : /
Edgar my friend, I live in a sea of regrets. But yes, it has crossed my mind. Especially since making this video - ruclips.net/video/FFLfIcvJE30/видео.html I’ll do a 1 year update on the GX soon and talk about why I haven’t lifted it yet and my plans for the future.
Yes, I watched that video (and a few other ones, great content!). It would be nice to see that Lexus on bigger tires, with those off-road bumpers and lifted. But it is easy for me to say this from the comfort of my couch. Congrats on taking this journey, and thanks for sharing it!
I guess I didn’t. Sorry, it was about 2300 for 5 I believe. Im doing a GX 1-year update soon and planning on covering every cost in detail, purchase, upgrades, maintenance and repairs. Stay tuned.
Finally! What I’ve been looking for. Bought a 2019 GX.. looking at putting KO2’s and possibly a 2 inch suspension after my warranty. I’ll be digging through your stuff over the coming days. Thanks!
@@MitchellMumma Yes. According to a few employees at the dealership, it will void some warranties. I’m still not pleased with the answer and the first employee did not seem extremely knowledgeable on the subject. I plan on going through all the paper work again to make sure. Apparently at one time Toyota and Lexus did allow for some suspension work (2in or less) and the retainer of original warranty status. They told me this changed a few years ago. 🤷🏼
@@MitchellMumma I wasn't waiting until the warranty expired, I was just thinking I would keep them until they failed. I'll probably loose them soon though. I have a kit on order from Ironman 4x4 including rear springs. They're sponsoring my lift video which will be out... if the lift ever shows up : /
Perfect balance between education and comedy. Your videos are amazing. Keep up the great work!!
Thanks, Chris! Let me know if you have any ideas for the channel.
I agree. Deserves more views.
This guy reminds me of Cricket from Always Sunny in the best possible way
That’s Rickety Cricket to you, sir.
Got to say I was going to say something because of your description. Fully loaded 2023 GX460 was not cheap! I actually did my own research and wheels and tires I put on hers were identical. She loves them and personally for me I’d do the same other than tires would be bigger.
How much of an impact did they have on your mpg?
Great content! Bought a ‘17 GX yesterday and I’m finding your info and sarcasm invaluable. Binge watching through now.
Awesome! Stay tuned for new stuff soon and congrats!
How does this video not have more likes? It’s actually a great video. Edited well. Good videography. People don’t understand. Especially the dad jokes 💪🏽
Providing the data base link deserves a like alone.
Well done! I especially like how you laid out your process of selection!
Having used 33" KO2s on my 98 LX470, I am very impressed by them. They take all the abuse I can dish out and never flinch. They aren't that in mud since the blocks quickly fill up with mud and they effectively become slicks! But the same packing behavior works wonders in snow! Finally, they are a little slippery on ice, even more so than some all season tires!
Thanks for the info and humor 👍🏼 Shared your video with a buddy of mine that’s wanting to put rims and tires on his 2023 GX It will be very helpful to him on making his choices.
I'm on the same boat as you. We are long time hikers and recently had two kids (1 and 3 years old). So I bought a GX460 as well to scratch my itch for the outdoors. I actually bought a roof rack first as you did, it really opened up the back seats and carry additional useless stuff on the roof. Now I need wheels and tires. I'll most likely go with the 265/70/17 as well mainly because it will fit in the spare tire location and adding a swing out arm or a bumper seems to be an overkill, especially in my wallet. So thank you for re-confirming my doubts, really wanted the 285/70/17. I do want a lift but I don't think I would be doing any rock crawling anytime soon, maybe next year...Check out Ironman 4x4, they have some great products for GX460. And thanks for the video
A 285 or 33" will fit in the spare tire space below if you air it down and just carry a good air compressor which most do anyway.
Great choice. KO2's are awesome and your rims looks perfect on the Prado. It has me itching to buy some off-road wheels and tires.
Keep the videos coming. They are informative with great satire. It's a good combination.
Thanks! Subscribe for more content. I've got reviews of the Front Runner Jerry can, the worlds biggest SUV tent and North Face warranty repairs coming soon. We'll probably lift it a bit before the end of the year too if the economy doesn't get any worse...
Love the humor and content! Although, on a GX470/GX460 stock suspension to fit 285/70/17 tires, no lift or a body mount chop is needed BUT trimming and fender modifications are necessary as you have mentioned. Keep the same size tires but instead lifted, no body mount chop is needed when your alignment for the casters are pushed forward (4+). A body mount chop is in order when you run crazy negative (-30 or more) offset wheel and tire size of 35"+ or equivalent. Just a friendly PSA.
I appreciate the additional detail. I just went off the GXOR tire wiki which I think was crowd sourced. I bought a BMC kit and then realized there's now way I'd need it. What are you running?
@@WastingTimeInTheWoods Reading, asking questions, and researching is key.
I'm on the GXOR fb group as well. I have a 2015 GX460 base. It's currently lifted on Dobinsons 3" IMS suspension lift with Apache upper control arms. Wheels are SCS Rays10 17x8.5 with -10 offset wrapped with 285/70/17 Nitto Ridge Grapplers. You can see my truck through my Instagram account: 15GX460.
@@yota22RE81 Looks good! I'm leaning toward the IMS myself. I'm thinking I'll go with the set that's gives you 1" with the factory springs and then maybe do a spring later on if I decide to add a bumper and/or winch. I assume you went with their 2" lift springs and the 1" lift struts? How does it ride on and off trail?
@@WastingTimeInTheWoods the IMS system is a coil over type strut. So you can adjust the preload to your liking (to an extent). The springs are set to 3" and are the comfort coils while the rears are 2" medium coils. I don't have any plans to add bumpers down the line so that's the route I went. Dobinsons, like other brands will have entry level struts where the coil seat is already positioned and non adjustable, which I think is what you're referring to. Coil overs can give you more adjustability should you change out the coils to a firmer type for heavy gear down the road. And on road and offroad handling has greatly improved! Little firmer on the pavement but where it shines is offroad, responsive yet supple on hard bumpy roads. You won't be disappointed!
@@yota22RE81 I think they have two of the IMS coil overs that will work in addition to the entry level (yellow) you're talking about. Both IMS models have an adjustable spring perch but one is 1" higher before the preload. One is suitable for a 0"-2.5" lift depending on the spring and preload and the other is suitable for a 1"-3.5". With the second you can keep factory springs and get a 1" lift with no preload which is what I think I'll do. Maybe... : ) Great to hear they're preforming well for you. Let me know if you have any problems and thanks for subscribing!
I'm starting to like your videos. Funny and more useful than asking a question in the GXOR group about what size tire you can fit on stock height.
Solid video, funny, informative, & good use of visual aid, i. e. tire size descriptors, etc, etc.
Just got my hands on a 09 gx470 and I'm excited to get out on trails and explore the many trails offered and make great memories
I got my 5x Method 701 and BFG A/T 265/70R17 on Black friday 2021. Thank you for your video !! I am looking forward to watch your Ironman 4x4 lift video.
I couldn't quite tell from this video but at the start I thought he said you can go with this tire and wheel in stock format but near the end he shows heat gun and cutting? Did you have to do anything to prevent any sort of rubbing?
Looking at TRD Pros and Tires for my GX460 right now. Perfect timing for this video! Thanks! Love the content
Glad to help!
OMG. You're the dad I wish to be! "Kids past their USE BY date"... hilarious!
Great channel. Funny and Dad jokes are on point 👌🏻
Very good, really enjoyed that. Can't wait for the lift kit video.
Your tire rub with that tire size is from changing your offset from +40 to 0. The sweet spot for FJ cruisers, Tacos, Gx460 is +15. Also, for the finish on those wheels never use wheel cleaner. It will etch or leave them looking permanently hazy. Finally, when you ask a manufacture “which wheels are best for my vehicle?”, well theirs of course. Lol
Shhhhh!!!! I told my wife we need a lift to fix it.
@@WastingTimeInTheWoods Hi buddy, thank you so much for always posting those very useful info about GX! I've also got a set of Method 701 + K02 (265/70/r17), so the same issue you've had before.
Here is my "cheap" solution w/o modifying the clearance around the tires:
1. 2.5'' lift spacer on the front only (only body lift, not suspension, so the center of gravity not moving up so much)
2. 1.25'' or 1.5'' wheel spacers to increase the offset.
Prob. solved.
So I recently bought 265/70/17 wildpeaks with 17x9 +12 offset blkrhino rapids. Would you think I’ll get some rubbing or should I have gone with 17x8.5 0 offset?
I decided to go with Mamba machined M14's on my Silver 470 with Destination 3 peak AT2 tires
Picking up my 2013 tomorrow thanks amigo!
Lotsa peeps run 275/65-18 (32.1”) on stock height and no major mods (just removal of inner fender screw)… I think the 17” equiv would be 275/70… so, in-b/n your 265 and a too-large 285.
I enjoy your videos and learn a lot. Keep them coming!
Thanks, will do!
Just found this, love your style. Subscibed from Yukon.
Thanks! Let me know if you like the travel stuff like the latest Ghost town video. Trying to decide if I should do more or go back to more how to content.
All I have to say about the BFG A/T type tires is I will not run them.
I've had them break loose in snowy/icy conditions too many times to trust them.
On light vehicles (jeeps/small pickups) I run Goodyear duratracks, on bigger vehicles ( full size suvs and pickups) I run Cooper A/Ts.
I know BFGs are the popular choice. But not tagging a guardrail or sliding off the road is more important to me than "being popular"
Glad to see you back. Good video.
Thanks buddy. Its been a long summer with no sitters but Ive got one more shot already and a couple others written. Should have more regular content once its cool enough to shoot in the garage again. I appreciate the support!
Glad I found your channel, funny guy!
You are an awesome narrator...Bravo on the comedy side of your content. Keep up the the videos and the content on the GX 460...Im watching your video because i have a stock GX 460 2013 base model. Trying to figure all the upgrades out with research and RUclips video content like yours. Are you still running the 265 70r 17 with the Iron man lift you just put on your gx? I think you did a 2.5 inch. Nice ride though...Im glad the 265 still fit in the spare tire area otherwise you'd hsve to buy a swingarm tire carrier on your hitch.
Yep same setup. I’d rather run 33s, but I don’t want to tire carrier cause my garage is kind of tight and 33s are 50% longer stopping than 265/70’s. I drive mostly on the road because it’s my daily driver, so I’ll probably stick with those.
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Great video! I wonder what air valve you use, I saw you had something. Nice there when you were air down. Let me know, the valve it’s very important
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Thanks!
Amazing video and really helpful ! Keep up the great work! Did you end up doing any speedometer callibration with the KO2s? What's the variance in speed that you are getting?
Didn’t even know you could do that : ). I drive like an old man so not too worried about it. My tires are only like 3% larger than stock anyway. Thanks for watching!
Good video as all of yours are. Like others have said, I like a little humor in there along with the information.
Also, you got new wheels which have rims. Rims are a part of the wheel but is not the same thing as a wheel. But stuff like that bugs me and not most people...
Glad you didn’t go with the coopers. I think those might have been included in the recent recall
AT3's having issues? The reason I didn't was because they were too new. What's going on with the Coopers?
@@WastingTimeInTheWoods there were other versions of the AT3 that were recalled due to bulging and separation issues. The XLTs weren’t on that list, but i suspect their issues run deeper. I have a highway version of the Discoverer Cooper, and 2/4 have separated at 10k and 25k miles www.consumerreports.org/car-recalls-defects/cooper-recalls-tires-due-to-risk-of-sidewall-separation/
Glad I went KO2. Thx.
Guy on the phone: Everyone is doing 17x8.5 right now
Morgan Freeman Narrator Voice: No... no they are most certainly not.
I think he just meant that Method sells the most in that size to GX 460 owners. 17x7.5 is probably the most popular aftermarket wheel since that's the only size the TRD Pro Sema wheels come in and those are more popular than any other wheel across all Toy 4x4's. What were you thinking?
@@WastingTimeInTheWoods oh I know, just giving him a hard time.
Okay sweet. You scared me a bit. If my wife found out I bought the wrong size wheels after spending two months screwing around over it I might be divorced by Monday ; )
@@WastingTimeInTheWoods no way! they look great and for the type of offroading you (and i) do they're perfect. for airing down lower sometimes a narrower wheel can be more beneficial. for 265s that would be max 8 inches, but that won't come into play with anything we would be getting into in stock suspension IFS vehicles. for me, i just want to find a set of take-off TRD off-road premiums or sequoia split 5 spokes, but if i had the cash I'd get a set just like yours (but bronze).
Great vid. Super helpful. Very well written...spoken. Deliverd like a pro. Communications major? Thanks for posting. Love my Gx. How are those KO2 tires in the snow?
Thanks for the compliments! Not a com major but I am a video producer. II've only really had the tires up in the snow once so far and it was really more mud. I did make a video though - ruclips.net/video/Uh-jc6zOMEw/видео.html
Solid video. Hilarious at points. Thanks for tips. Still confused on what will fit stock considering you went with 265 and it still rubbed. Did the cutting you did count as a body mount chop?
Glad you enjoyed it. The confusion comes from the various tire treads across manufacturers. While the overall size is the same between manufacturers, I believe the more aggressive tread, the more "squared off" the corners of the tire, which is where it rubs when you have the wheels turned 45 degrees. Worse in reverse due to the suspension sag. I think that's the main difference in rubbing results between tires of the same size from different manufacturers. BFG KO2's seem to be more square at the sidewall and rub a bit more as a result. I didn't do a body mount chop (yet). That Dremmel was just me working the running boards : ) I'm just clear of the body mounts with the 265's. I only rub a bit of plastic so there's no damage to the tires. I think the only reason I still rub is that my passenger spring is sagging bit. I have a .5" lean currently that I plan to address when I lift it and likely replace the springs. Good luck!
I disagree with only one statement... backspacing does matter even today.
Thanks for these - I love the videos! Which specific Method 701 did you buy ? There are about 8 different 17X8.5" variants. Thanks again!
Here's a link to the exact set-up I bought. It's an affiliate link so if you end up buying through amazon it encourages me to make more vids, but don't feel obligated. Have a healthy and happy holiday and thanks for watching! - amzn.to/38sm67I (Wheels), amzn.to/34DUCea (Tires)
The truck looks great! I'm thinking about going with the same size tire. I have the exact same GX as you, color and all. How are you feeling about the tire size after 2 years? Do you regret not going larger or are they just right? Any major hit in mpg? Any feedback is greatly appreciated. Thank you
I don’t regret not being able to carry a spare under the car. I don’t wheel hard so Im not the most credible source for tire size. I ran it up a steep hill a couple months ago and it used the atrac like crazy near the top (a real shorts checker). I thought maybe 33’s would have helped… then I realized I never hit the center locker which probably would have been a much bigger help over another 1.5” of tire.
“The way they measure tire sizes is stupid.”
Truth
Thanks. Have you had any adverse effects from using the tires? There’s people out there that claim heavy tires like BF Goodrich on SUV’s are a bad idea.
No issues after 40k miles.
very good videos keep em coming😃
Thanks, will do!
Great video! Thanks what type of roof rack do you have?
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Loved the video bro..I have a Prado which is very similar to your GX.
I did a 2 inch Dobinsons suspension lift.
My stock tires were 265/65/R17.
I have also installed a 30mm wheel spacers for better stability.
Now i want to get all terrain tires.
Am confused whether I should stick with 265/65 or increase the tire size.
Can you suggest the best tire size for me.
Also I have heard increasing tire size decreases the pick up power and creates variations in speedometer and actual speeds..
Bigger tires mean it takes more torque to move and more power to stop. I stuck to 265/70/17's becuase that's the biggest that can fit in my spare underneath. You shouldn't have that problem as I think the Prado door supports at least a 33'. If I drove around town mostly and trailed it on the weekends, I'd stick to around the size you're looking at. That will keep it's stopping distance and road manners tame. Check out my favorite off-roading Aussie's take on it - ruclips.net/video/jO6QYM59ANw/видео.html
How much space does the rear kdss bar need from the spare? I just got a spare mounted (Method 701 with BFG 265 70 R17) and there is only a couple of millimeters of clearance.
Mine presses into the tire under suspension compression (with even compression, not flex). Doesn't really matter I don't think as long as you have clearance at ride height. I think it presses into the tire more under compression but the force on the end links are so much greater than the friction generated by the of the tire pressing into the KDSS bar, shouldn't bind... or really matter. Wheeled mine all weekend and never noticed my spare : )
Great video! I have a 2012 gx that im slowly up grading for family adventure.... im thinking about a daystar spacer lift... curious to know your thoughts if you end up researching lifts next!
Save yourself some headaches skip the spacer lift. All they do is compress your shock absorbers, degrading your ride comfort. Lift is provided by longer coils, not shorter ones.
I agree with Gibbs. Ive been thinking about bilstein 5100’s but also considering new coils. Im not sure spring perch adjustments (like on the 5100’s) are much better than spacers. Still wrestling with it since I don’t wheel currently. Definitely a show when I get there but now that it’s getting cold I have a few months to think it through.
I’ll probably do the bilstiens because Im cheap : )
Love your videos!! I did the same setup on my on my 2011 GX but I can't get the spare tire back under. Any tricks?
Partially deflate it if you have compressor.
Were the hub centric rings needed with the method wheels? From the info I’ve seen online their hub bore is 106.25 and the GXs hub bore is 106. I’ve heard of rings being needed on other vehicles. Looking at gray 704s for my gray 460.
What they told me was that the rims were hub centric. I assume those numbers you're quoting are in mm? I would think .25mm would be just enough for manufacturing tolerances. They're super easy to get on the phone though. They were great all 7 times I called ; )
mah Jew brah! excellent video... I appreciate the spex.. peace ✌🏿from SoCal
Great job on the video, is there a way to correct the speedometer after you put bigger tires on the GX
I don't think easily. It looks like Techstream won't do it.
Thanks, can’t wait to see what’s coming up next for your GX
Have you disabled the TPMS light? I did not purchase the sensors with wheels actually.
Nah, I want to know if I have a low tire around town and don’t mind the light on the weekends. Adding a cap monitor would be the best of both worlds I guess but I just glance at the tires once in a while.
So with the 265/70/17… no rubbing etc? Given they are the same size as stock.
No, lots of rubbing but it’s just plastic. It’s designed to be flexible 😉
Have a 17" Method mr701 and BFGOODRICH AT T/A KO2. What is your default PSI for daily driving without activating the TPMS sensor lexus notification?
I daily drive at 40 PSI. I generally hit the trail at 20.
Gear choose mate, looking for the same for my Prado. I am wondering whether 265 tire is covered by wheel arch while mounted on 17 inch rim with 0 offset?
It is. Wish they stuck out a bit more for looks. Mine stick out about 1/2”. Good to keep the mud off the car but just not as angry looking : )
@@WastingTimeInTheWoods Thanks mate!
Great content! Have you noticed a significant MPG drop since moving to the new wheel/tire setup?
I went from about 13.6 average (I rarely leave the neighborhood and let it idle a bit) to 12.7. I'm going to have a fuel service and replace the spark plugs next week so I hope I get a bit of a bump. Tires didn't change much though. Thanks for watching!
@@WastingTimeInTheWoods are you considering a suspension lift? I've seen lots of lifts videos for 4runners and tacos but not enough about GX, lm considering the Australian made ironman or icon, our budget its $2to3K
Working through it now actually. Waiting on Ironman to get back to me but looking like fcp’s. Stay tuned. Finally dropping a new video this weekend and will be back to regular updates soon.
@@WastingTimeInTheWoods cool, also depends what's your budget, but king lift its $2,700 which lm also considered, due to ironman kits have been out of stock for a few months
@@Maximus01776 Hey, sorry I missed this. Yes. Working on finishing up the order. Likely end of the summer before I get to it but I plan to do a comprehensive lift video around the install...
Thanks for the vid. What caused the scuffing on the wheels? Did the coating just wear off or is it scratched? I like methods but some of those marks have me questioning
That's just trail dust my friend. They're also matte black. I have been giving my oldest driving lessons in the truck but I do believe they are still clean (surprisingly).
Sounds like you are pretty “frugal”. Surprised you didn’t do the Falken Wildpeak AT3s.
You've caught me ; ) Yeah, the wildpeaks are a great value but you're married to tires for (hopefully) 5 years or so. Since I do a lot more city driving than off-road I thought the KO2's were a bit better balance. That's why I focused on the the three I thought looked aggressive but had street pedigrees. That and all my friends run KO2's and love them. In my research the only draw back on the KO2's was that early on there seemed to be a lot of them going 'out of round' but I think that's been sorted out through manufacturing. Thanks for watching and be sure to sub for more!
What is the advantage of those rims to your factory rims?
The bead channel thing might be kind of a gimmick, not sure, but I wanted to go to a 17" rim anyway which in itself is superior to the factory 18" for the increased air volume.
Would love to chat to share our build stories👊🏼
Use the business inquiry email address on my YT channel page or you can find me in ih8mud @jakemccurdy. Would love to hear what you’re doing. Talk soon!
I been contemplating for a long time if downgrading from 18 would give it more of a better ride quality...I dont off roade much so I dont care for that feature but comfort is important to me, any suggestioon? thanks.
The ride quality around town is almost worth it alone. It's dramatically cushier, but I went to a 1" taller and wider tire (overall) too so that likely contributed. It's really capable with just the larger tires/smaller rims and super comfy so I'm in no rush to lift mine. If I didn't off road much, I'd look for a set of 5th gen 4 Runner take-offs. You can get a set of 4 near new TRD 17"s with 265/70/17ish tires for around $1250 on craigslist in my neighborhood. I paid twice that but got 5 and the method wheels which are a bit fancier. Thanks for watching and I hope you and your family are safe and healthy!
“The way the measure tire sizes is stupid”
True dat.
@@WastingTimeInTheWoods big true. Love the shirt
Great video 👏🏼 #GXmafia
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How do you like the ko2’s over the stock street tires for daily use? Noise level, ride quality and handling vs stock tires? Thanks
I love them. The bigger size makes for a much nicer ride. I cant hear them at all. The rack creates a small amount of wind noise so Ive never noticed any tire sound, but I only take the freeway to get to the trailhead since I work from home.
Great vid! Do you think your wheels would’ve rubbed using a 255/70/17 instead? I’m thinking about purchasing the same methods for my 460, but don’t want to bmc or have to trim if I don’t have to. Thanks!
Thanks! Not sure but mine only rubs on the passenger side now and only in reverse. My passenger side has a .5” lean which I think is the issue (spring sag, not kdss). I plan to correct that when I lift it. If you don’t want to do any mods and run ko2’s I would go a half inch smaller overall that what I did. Use a tire size calc to compare sizes - tiresize.com/comparison/ Good luck!
Just checked and that size looks exactly a half in shorter and .3 more narrow. I would think that would work without having to push out plastic but no guarantee. Thanks for watching!
I wanted the largest tire I could fit underneath in the spare location... and an excuse to convince my wife we need to lift the front : ) It was an easy sell.
Did you keep your tpms sensors or did you delete them?
I kept them. It’s annoying to see the light when Im aired down, but it also helps remind me to air back up... which I have forgotten once or twice : )
Now I am more confused. What did you pay fir you ur rims?
I don't think I mentioned it in the video but I paid around $1000 for 5.
@@WastingTimeInTheWoods love the rims. OK 👌🏽 love the look
Are you running stock suspension?
For the moment. My ironman FCP kit finally showed up a week or so ago so I'll probably do the lift video in January once I have time to get it installed.
I heard if you go 255/70 then it won't rub
Sound likely since mine only rubs in reverse at full lock. Depends on the tire though. 265/70's don't rub for a lot of people but they seem to on KO2's much more.
@@WastingTimeInTheWoods Yeah that's one of my concerns as well, I absolutely hate rubbing😿
Agreed. Annoying AF. You could always lift it : )
@@WastingTimeInTheWoods unfortunately my office's underground garage only has a height limit of 6'3 lol
@@zzzgarage2704 Oh, dude. That sucks. I hate to tell you this but my truck is 6'5" with the tires and no lift to the top of the cross bars. 3ish inches more for the rack. 265/70's are only supposed to be an inch taller than stock so you might already be driving on the biggest tires you can take to work : /
What offset did you get on your wheels?
0 offset
Imagine; the budget Toyota is a Lexus 😅
Ohh the irony!!!
Do you have any regrets of not getting the 285s with a lift?
Edgar my friend, I live in a sea of regrets. But yes, it has crossed my mind. Especially since making this video - ruclips.net/video/FFLfIcvJE30/видео.html
I’ll do a 1 year update on the GX soon and talk about why I haven’t lifted it yet and my plans for the future.
Yes, I watched that video (and a few other ones, great content!). It would be nice to see that Lexus on bigger tires, with those off-road bumpers and lifted.
But it is easy for me to say this from the comfort of my couch. Congrats on taking this journey, and thanks for sharing it!
I hate ko2s lol they’re good but very loud and rode bad for me.
You didn’t say what you spent wtf?
I guess I didn’t. Sorry, it was about 2300 for 5 I believe. Im doing a GX 1-year update soon and planning on covering every cost in detail, purchase, upgrades, maintenance and repairs. Stay tuned.
Finally! What I’ve been looking for. Bought a 2019 GX.. looking at putting KO2’s and possibly a 2 inch suspension after my warranty. I’ll be digging through your stuff over the coming days. Thanks!
Congrats! We’re working on our lift as well. I should have a new content on that soon.
Is there a particular reason you’re waiting until your warranty is expired to upgrade the suspension?
@@MitchellMumma Yes. According to a few employees at the dealership, it will void some warranties. I’m still not pleased with the answer and the first employee did not seem extremely knowledgeable on the subject. I plan on going through all the paper work again to make sure. Apparently at one time Toyota and Lexus did allow for some suspension work (2in or less) and the retainer of original warranty status. They told me this changed a few years ago. 🤷🏼
@@MitchellMumma I wasn't waiting until the warranty expired, I was just thinking I would keep them until they failed. I'll probably loose them soon though. I have a kit on order from Ironman 4x4 including rear springs. They're sponsoring my lift video which will be out... if the lift ever shows up : /
I got 2019 like to lift mytruck just front to make even, so is 1" lift good?