Science Article Supporting Telepathy
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- Опубликовано: 5 июн 2024
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I don't want telepathy to be a thing. I want the term "thought police" to remain a hypothetical and a rhetorical statement, not a literal one.
Yup. At least in Orwellian nightmares they can't actually read your thoughts. This would be beyond disturbing, and we just know that people would want to get the persecuting ready to go.
You think it's currently a hypothetical and rhetorical statement? Jesus man, what rock do you live under?
It’s possible to have mind reading and also believe people’s thoughts shouldn’t be criminalized. Mind reading would still be a huge invasion of privacy, though.
@@HydeSkullbruh there are no literal thought crimes or thought police. Calm down lol
There's been episodes of star Trek looking into it and it is indeed disturbing
This is one of the reason that I’m subscribed to Aron’s channel. He consistently defers to experts in areas he’s less knowledgeable on, and makes sure he’s getting people who know what they’re talking about before expounding on a topic. It’s the behavior of someone who doesn’t just want to be right, but actively wants to not be wrong (and I think there’s an important difference between those two things.) Thanks for always putting the experts front and center.
Yep, compare his approach to that of "the believer": they already have all the answers! They won't accept that they might be wrong. Nothing counts as evidence against their position! Nope! They are always right, all because they are on "Team Jesus!"
Funny how their Christian humility conceals the height of arrogance.
Who's more humble? The one who accepts that he can be wrong and doesn't have all the answers? Or the one who insists that he is always right and has all the answers?
@@britaom3299that's a huge sticking point for me with theists who make the wild claim that atheists are the arrogant ones just because we say "I don't know" I'm not the arrogant one claiming I know where everything in the universe originates, I'm more than happy to say I don't know yet until presented empirical evidence.
@@jackwhitbread4583 Exactly right! I must be weird, but it seems obvious to me that with certain things, perhaps a LOT of things, the answer to questions is: "I/We don't know!"
But that seems to trigger believers. They HAVE to have answers, so long as the "answer" is "Jesus" or whatever other religion or "woo" that they want to believe in.
Well said; although, I would add it is okay to be wrong as long as when you learn that you acknowledge it. Being wrong is often the first step on the way to being right.
@@nashtrojan
Failure begets success IF one accepts the failure AND learns from it.
I am so glad telepathy isn't a real thing. I mean all the strange and utterly fucked up things that pop into my head at random would definitely get me into deep shit. I used to have control over my thoughts, but after my encephalitis, it's like the dam keeping those thoughts in check just shattered.
Humans have the right to take a secret to the grave
In The HItchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, Douglas Adams described telepathy as a "social disease" and described a society afflicted with it as never stopping talking and hosting concerts by the band Disaster Area to suppress it
You never had control of your thoughts back then and you don’t now. It might be more noticeable and bothersome now because of your medical issues, but nothing you think is because you chose to think it. Give yourself a break and tell your brain to shut up when it annoys you. There’s no free will.👍🥰
What's scarier is if telepathy is real, and governments suppress that knowledge so they can keep their new spying a total secret.
I find the idea of covert telepathy an awful lot scarier than overt telepathy.
@Evolution.1859 you just said to simply shut off your brain, and in the same breath that free will doesn't exist? Surely only in a free willed universe you have the power to shut off your brain, other than that you're bound by past emotions, experiences etc and you can't tell it to be quiet especially if you have adhd, ocd etc
It's great because AronRa doesn't have to throw a punch towards these idiots, nor have to try and scare someone into submission with threats of violence. AronRa can simply spit facts and logic that are coherent. That whips their butts better than anything else.
Congratulations, you have just invented the amazing new concept of rationalists being Intellectual Clotheslines. Idiots constantly charge at us and wind up biting the dust, all on their own.
I _wish_ I had come up with that myself!
@@EdwardHowton Hey, if can run with it and turn it into a bumper sticker, or meme. Go for it! I ain't got no patent or trademark on it lol.
You know who would lobby hard against telepathy if it were real? Cellphone companies.
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No one would ever get elected again.
On the contrary, I suspect they'd try to figure out a way to charge a fifth usage fee on their cell phones by adding a telepathy connector instead of a seventh camera on the next twice-a-year- iteration.
And then -double- -triple- Nth-dipping by selling the personal information they steal from your brain like they do with all your other data.
Aron Ra: a shining beacon of Reason in a crazy and ill-informed world 🤟
Once you leave rational thought behind, anything seems believable
Religious indoctrination is very good at preventing the development of critical thinking in children.
Today I learned that ‘mirror’ neurons are more accurately ‘motor-mimic’ neurons. 😎 The good Dr. wielded Occam’s razor expertly and it was beautiful to behold.
Fantastic show and fabulous guest, yet again, Aron. 🍻 Love ya, man. 🖖🏼
This is great stuff. Ironically, just yesterday I came across the interview you did with Dr. Thompson from a year ago. Good to see him back on!!
BTW, reading up on cognitive and neuroscience in the past month has pretty much eliminated the last vestiges of "woo" in me. Sorry, folks, there is no soul, there is no "universal awareness - Brahma/Atman", etc. But there are brains, and brains pretty much destroy theism and other species of woo. I also just came across a blog-post by Richard Carrier, where he sums up how this is the case:
"...that we need brains to generate conscious phenomena is quite unexpected if God exists. Because if God exists, disembodied minds can exist, and are the best minds to have, therefore we should also have disembodied minds. Indeed, there is no inherent reason it would even occur to a god to make our minds out of brains at all (without, again, a pile of convenient excuses). Whereas if God does not exist, the only way minds could exist is as the output of a complex physical machine that evolved slowly by natural selection over hundreds of millions of years from ultra-simple worm-brains to fish-brains, lizard-brains, mammal-brains, monkey-brains, ape-brains, hominid-brains, and eventually human brains. Just as we observe.
Therefore, the fact that thought is dependent on complex evolved brains, which are physical machines, and which also inefficiently exhaust oxygen and energy, and place us in needless risk of injury and death, and intellectual malfunction, due to their delicate vulnerability and badly organized structure, is exactly what we expect if there is no God, but not at all what we expect if there is."
There was a batman episode about not being able to read in a dream and I too can't read in a dream. The best I can ever do is a letter or two.
It was the animated series. I remember watching it
Both Batman the Animated Series and Doctor Who have talked about this. Some people actually can read in a dream, but it can't give you any information you don't already know. If you look away from the text and look back, it will have changed. I'm a lucid dreamer myself, and sometimes I can force the text to say what it did before, but that's more like writing than reading.
@@FrozEnbyWolf150Not to discredit your experiences, but I’ve done a lot of testing of reading within my own dreams. There have been times where I have interpreted “dream words” as though I was reading them, but when I actually really pay attention to the letters of the word, I realize it was complete nonsense the entire time. I don’t believe it’s possible to actually have a solid written word be readable in a dream, at least I’ve never witnessed it myself. My point is maybe you were just interpreting instead of actually “reading”, just something to consider
I can actually read in dreams, and it usually makes sense at the time, but if i’m able to remember the sentence once awake it will be word salad. Anything more than a single word or possibly a two-word name will be mostly-real words but in random order, not even verb-subject-object.
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I can read the thoughts coming out of my own brain, when everyone else shuts the fuck up.
In high school (in the 1980s), one of my friends' mother did parapsychology research (primarily telekinesis).
She published studies where some subjects (barely) exceeded the p value for statistical significance (some positive, some negative).
Now I realize that if you do enough studies, eventually some will, by pure chance, exceed that threshold. And since that threshold is often 0.05 (1 in 20), and since she was accepting both positive and negative significance, that means that one in 10 tests will exceed the threshold.
But back in the 1980s, parapsychology/ESP was considered just maybe possible.
The average number of arms on human beings is less than 2.
I too was in high school in the ’80s and I remember watching a lot of documentaries on parapsychology research. Looks like it was a big thing back then. Afaik there was a whole university department in the Netherlands for that field of study. Recently I tried to find it with google but I couldn’t find it. I guess they got tired of funding research that only proved such phenomena aren’t real.
Wasn’t the film Men Who Stare At Goats about an army unit trying (and failing) to use telepathy? I never watched the film, but I read about it in my tv guide (yes I’m that old).
Your guest was fun to listen to. Great chemistry.
Oh boy, here we go again...
LOLOLOLOL
People will believe serious batshit, and it’ll be difficult to convince them it’s such.
You're spoiling us again with these rapid fire releases of hour-long discussions
When I'm dreaming, all writing is blurred and if I'm driving, I can't see out the window .
Lol, don't get me started. I'm usually somehow in the back seat and can't reach the controls. (I was in a bad smash as a kid and couldn't even get in a car for years after. I guess it still bothers me even though I've been driving for 30 years.)
I've had hangovers like that.
I was able to see out my house's window in a dream, and it was exactly as I expected. There was a car parked in the parking lot, a metal fire exit for the apartments and the entrance to the apartment building, none of which exist outside that close to my house. I have a front yard. But in my dream the window was different and weird and way smaller than it should be, so I checked if it was real by first touching the wall and then looking outside the window. So when I confirmed it was all real I went into the kitchen and my black fridge door was suddenly a tv that had no buttons or a remote and Barbarous King was imitating a robot and I wanted to turn the sound volume down a little. Pretty annoying.
When I woke up, because me fridge is indeed black, I thought back to the dream and thought it might be a switched off TV screen, and I actually walked to the livingroom to check if my window wasn't weird again.
@qwadratix
I have had dreams like that many times as well, I think even before I had ever been in a car crash. I figured that if they had any meaning, it was probably to do with lack of control.
Apparently In dreams the writing/reading part of the brain is mostly shut it's rare to comprehend it. There was an early episode in the show Evil where the skeptic lady protagonist defeats her nightmare demon by realizing its just a dream by writing on her ceiling before she slept, realizing its a dream when she can't read it. :)
I encountered someone on Facebook that thinks people are telepathic creatures and that proves that we were created by a God.
I asked the guy which parts of the brain would allow it and how would the process work. He only gave me stupid Bible verses.
I must have missed this. There's a new one I gotta watch now, then I'll come back!👍🏻💙💙💙🥰✌🏽
Aron, about your dream iliteracy.... it's a common thing, text doesn't work in dreams, for most humans. As well as light switches and the way you see your own hands in the dream. Thwese are things you "check" when you are trying to see if you are lucid dreaming.
"Dream illiteracy." I love it! What a loaded term.😆
Watches, too. If you can’t tell time you’re either awake and suffering brain damage - or you’re dreaming.
There was an interesting segment on the SGU podcast where scientist were using machine learning to train to read a person's thoughts. Can't remember the exact experiment or method of reading the brain. The interesting part that looks any possibility of traditional telepathy was that while they could train two models on two people with some success, using person 1 model on person 2 resulted in gibberish. So every brain is wired slightly differently
Even identical twins are going to end up with vastly different brains as they grow up. The 3 lbs of wet ware we have in our skulls is unique and constantly changing, even if subtly. I bet in 5 years the map of person 1 will no longer work on them.
But those thoughts aren’t read wirelessly but through an EEG.
@@kellydalstok8900 yes it was EEG and not wireless but it showed that the thoughts were incompatible. So the premise that one brain is picking up the activity from another brain and because they are both brains there is a mechanism to understand those thoughts is impossible because the thoughts are incompatible. And even if 2 people happened to be compatible both would be incompatible with everyone else.
So the experiment showed that thoughts are incompatible so telepathy would be impossible even if a natural transmission mechanism was even possible.
I reserve my right to skepticism, given the history of "scientific" and scientific studies on the subject. The greater the protections against cheating (advertent, or otherwise), the lower the positive result, leads me to believe it is not a Real Thing.
But in the 1st Ghostbusters movie the girl was doing very well but the nerdy boy failed every time...
@@alanhilder1883 Watch that scene again. It was actually the other way around; the girl failed every time and the nerd did well, but Venkman verbally rewarded the girl with false praise for a "correct" guess; the nerd's first couple guesses were a card late, but the last guess before he bailed was spot on. This scene actually had some plausible methodology and proper (if incomplete) disclosure to the test subjects prior to the experiment, and Venkman's explanation of the purpose of the study was spot on to the methodology.
@@petersage5157 And my point was?...
The testers bias was to push for the result he wanted, ignoring the data that didn't support what he wanted, just like any religiously ran experiment.
Love seening this type of content, hopefully DR Thompson will return for more debunking pseudoscience. Fantastic conversation from the both of you.
Ummm... Aron?
If Ectoplasm isn't real, then how come my Elder Scrolls character has 413 units of it in his inventory? Checkmate!!
Next thing you know, someone will try telling us that Daedra aren't real! That Azura isn't really out there, that Meridia doesn't really hate the Undead...
May Talos protect you all, may the Aldmeri Dominion crumble, along with Ulfric 'The Pretender' Stormcrow!! Long Live the Septim Empire!!
413!!
Same way you have "money" in your bank: It's just a number in a computer.
If telepathy existed wouldn't it be such a selective advantage that by now we'd all have the power? Either that or the world would be run by errm.. a shadowy cabal of complete bastards (who may or may not be reptillian).
Or a bunch of corrupt wizards, like the Jedi Council.
We'd have to get Disaster Area to hold their concerts on Earth.
It exists, experienced it twice on psychadelics. I'm a secular athiest, however it's clear that our perception of reality is only a small portion of what's out there.
ooo, this is gonna be awesome!
As someone with a computer science degree I must also add that on every transmission medium we have we need to do error correction or detection with a number of different methods because all transmission mediums are imperfect, for example we use Hamming codes for error correction and CRC codes for error detection, how would the brain do these things? Besides, the strength of electromagnetic signals is inverse proportional with the distance squared to the source because in 3 dimensions the energy of the signal is dispersed on the wave front which is simply the surface of the sphere with the source as the centre. So no, telepathy will never be a thing. Thank you Aron and dr. Thompson for rebutting pseudo-science!
Wen I was 14 (in 1975) I tried and tired, for literally months, to make things move with only my mental powers. I discovered that it was real-I actually could move things with my mind, but only if I also employed the use of my hands and all of the other parts of my body, so I was wrong and I was right, so I grew up and now I'm already 63 friggin years old? How the F did that happen?
Yesterday I was 26, today I'm 76. sigh. Greetings from Nordrhein/Westfalen from this expat Californian.
You youngsters.
@@inyobillThis aging native Californian is so very jealous of where you're now living.
@@tiltingwindmill Can't lie, lots I miss in California. Things better there, some things better here, somethings just _different_.
@@inyobill I can only imagine. Sigh.
I always wanted to go there, but I'm unable to travel, and will likely never get there. I have family in the Dresden area. I'd have loved to see that, Neuschwannstein, and the Alps (those surrounding lush green hills and valleys are just insanely beautiful.)
Of course, I'd miss the culture and the natural beauties (both the coastlines and the mountains) California has to offer.
Cheers!
Great video I learned so much thank you!
If mind reading was real, wouldn't blind people be able to know what you are thinking???
Well, there wouldn't be a reply button or any replies under your comment because you'd already know everything anyone would say in response. You wouldn't have posted the question either, because we'd have answered when you thought it.
Excellent! Thank you.
Thank you, gentlemen
Thanks!
Thank you Aron Ra for this video. I once asked you weird questions about thought broadcasting and hypnosis. I want to say thank you for this and I now realise that there is no such thing as thought broadcasting and there is no way people can hear people's thoughts. Thank you for responding to me back then and making this video for the general public. A lot of people believe their thoughts are being transmitted and intercepted by outside forces. Videos like these can make them take the first step towards getting mental health support.
Fascinating discussion.
Listening to the bat test reminded me of Batty from Fern Gully: The Last Rainforest because of the electrical implant he had on his head from being a lab test animal.
I knew this video would pop up today...
LOLOLOL, I love the commments on these posts (just how many 'm's in "comment?).
I felt it too.
You can see the future
I knew that you knew that
Good one
Aron is my hero!
I have another thought on the impossibility of telepathy. Let's say you could map the EMF with good accuracy, like a 3D field inside someone's brain. And let's say we can superimpose that EMF onto another person's brain. These would be incredible feats of engineering, in part because of the weakness of the field. The noise from the environment would simply swamp the signal.
Even if we could do that using sci fi tech, we still have a huge problem; the brains are not identical in structure. What if a lot of the information is in the physical structure of the brain?
It would be similar to trying to run code written for Windows 11 in a MacOS computer, without using emulation. The code would simply crash and or produce nonsense.
An interesting comment. I would think though that since the human brain appears to be a neural net, what you would get if you could do it would be two copies of the same person. (Assuming identical neural structure - probably unlikely in itself),
@@qwadratix OK, so the human brain is a biological organ. It's a very complicated thing to adequately describe in detial. Neural nets are simplified constructs we use to model parts of the signalling going on in the brain.
Near identical neural structure is not a thing. It's just combinatorially impossible. You're trying to solve a billion D Rubik's cube using moves from another billion D Rubik's cube. It's never going to happen.
Also, the interviewer mentions that the strength of the earth's magnetic field is 50000 times the strength of the EMF we care about. Using the rule dB = 20 log10 (ratio) we arrive at a signal at 93 dB below the noise floor. This is a literal piss in the ocean.
Another informative video that I learned something from. You keep this up and you are going to give the internet a bad name.
Fascinating listening to Dr. Thompson.
That was a very interesting guest.
In the last big solar storm, it was supposed to be visible over a couple of days at my location, and it was cloudy and raining the whole time. The weather didn't clear until a couple days after the event. 😞
Oddly, I have had at least one dream where I was reading. Couldn't tell you what the book said, but I knew I was reading something soul-crushingly boring but unable to stop. Clearly, I was having prophetic dreams about my future college textbooks.
I wanted telepathy as a kid too. So many science shows. . In search of was the one that had me duped.
So…. Do we have prosthesis hackers to look forward to now? Great conversation. Thank you both.
Years ago, Sean Carroll gave a very compelling argument that there simply is no mechanism that could allow for telepathy and other psi powers, and even the possibility of a soul. They've done far more than enough testing with accelerators that if there was any kind of particle/field that could possibly interact with our brains in the way it would have to if telepathy or a soul were real, it would have turned up long ago and it just hasn't.
My highschool psychology teacher taught us that nobody can read while dreaming.
I swear I once read a whole page of an employment contract, in my dream. Of course, nothing in the contract was anything that would ever be in a work contract, but I read it. I didn’t read further because I didn’t like what was in there lol Even dream state me has limits I guess.
I'm in school majoring in neuroscience. Still a ways off from my PhD but I'll get there, and when I do, you better believe I am not going to be on RUclips communicating any of the shit I've learned to anybody lol.
Do it! We need more of us!
@@Dr.ChrisThompson okay you're absolutely right, I guess I'm just not a big fan of being in front of a camera, by myself anyways lol. I imagine it must be extremely frustrating sometimes. I have considered doing some sort of science writing in the future. Right now, I still have a lot more to learn so that's priority number one. I really enjoyed the video btw!
@@misslayer999Thanks, I appreciate it. It's useful to take advantage of whatever skills and talents you have. If it's writing, well, that's helpful too!
Hey Aron, as a co-metal head and ex-occult-type dude I’m so grateful for all your hard work and your videos. Hope you’ve been having a great year. Check out Pro Xristou by Rotting Christ. Not as heavy as the band name sounds but just as blasphemous as you’d expect 😆 Acts of God by Immolation is another top tier recent album.
Our brains are so freaking fascinating,🤓 and yet so many of them are all messed up!!
Reminds me of Ghost in the Shell where everyone has cybernetic implants that act as telepathy.
We couldn't see the Aurora at my place in Colorado either. As usual for cool astronomical events it was overcast.
Like the Star Trek transporter concept, there is a technical "basis" for thoughts traveling beyond our skulls, but the signal is far too weak to be plausibly useful. Even if we could make receivers strong enough, there would be too much background noise.
For a while after becoming an atheist, I also still believed in all kinds of psychic abilities etc. I even tried numerous training programs that claimed to give you those powers. I followed the training to the letter with no abilities and zero evidence showing anyone else, including the people teaching the programs, had any of those abilities
I have a belief system based in science, advancements in technology, reality and education. I think you do too, AronRa.
I find a sense of smell being strangely absent during dreaming
As we are self programming organic robots and our language shapes our personalities an perception I think the odds of communicating mind to mind would be a scrambled mess of operating systems clashing.
Like MacOS vs Windows to the Nth degree.
As I listened to this, I thought that we may not be able to communicate telepathically, but we should be able to simulate telepathy. Theoretically, we could create a device to read our thoughts and couple it with another device to transmit our thoughts. Conversely, we could have a device to receive and a device to decipher the thoughts of others. And then I realize, we already have that; it's called talking. The only difference is the energy saved by not moving your jaws.
@UCd3R_Pas5sVL88Ca7GV755g What is this? I don't believe that this is Aron.
It could be useful for people with locked in syndrome, because they have no way of communicating at all.
17:10
We in PC gaming call that key binding lol
James Randy Educational Foundation (JREF) still handing out a gazillion dollars for the first quack who can pass a double blind test?
Looked it up, terminated in 2015, after 51 years. The money must have been sitting idle for too long ;-)
@abum - the prize money is technically still available, but the foundation itself is no longer accepting direct submissions. You first have to pass a screening process established by one of nearly a dozen other agencies who would then forward the successful person to the Randi Foundation for final testing.
They were just wasting too much time and money processing all the people who claimed they have supernatural powers, and so now only process a handful of applicants each year with the new process.
I'm a lucid dreamer who can remember my dreams in vivid detail. This makes me even more skeptical, because in order to lucid dream, I have to recognize that what I'm experiencing isn't real. It's all taking place in my imagination, which is the only way I have control over it.
Doesn't everyone want really cool supernatural things to be true??? Of course! But the more rational of us must face the cold, hard truth that it's not.
Only if you’re 14 or 15.
HOW?? As in how did this even get published
I have no idea how telepathy would work on me since I have total aphantasia, SDAM, and zero inner monologue. I sometimes have a hard time reading my own thoughts
"The guy who was talking I don't think is sane."
See, I knew Aron was going to say that.
I was open to every alternative idea as a kid. As an older guy I haven't found any validity for any of them. Tarot cards, palmistry, telekinesis, ghosts, reincarnation, etc. There are still people who believe and some who profess to have special powers. There are many organisations that will test your claims, and you can win a lot of money if you can prove your claims under controlled conditions. Telepathy is very alluring for obvious reason, but it has still never been proved.
Being as generous and "optimistic" as I can, the only way that I see these studies being helpful in the pursuit of something resembling telepathy is via technology. We know that things keep getting smaller and smaller, while computing devices get more and more efficient. We could reach the point where you can get an implant that's basically a miniaturized wireless version of the rat experiment, maybe you could have an app on your phone to turn it on or off, and decide who has access. It almost seems like we're inventing a new subgenre of cyberpunk.
When the socker star got an assist and kicked the ball into the goal, my dad kicked his beer bottle and spread it all over the carpet. He could'nt sit still when a game was on TV.
The only case of telepathy I ever saw was of conjoined twins who were joined at the head. Their brains were (almost?) touching each other and they probably shared some nerves.
Pulse amplitude modulation.
It would have become so commonplace as to not be a subject for debate.
It's common not ti be able to read in dreams. The language area of your brain is largely inacive when your dreaming. So your brain tends to be unable to process words. There are some people who can read in their dreams but they almost always are creative writers.
If telepathy were real, everybody would be fighting to suppress it all the time.
Indeed. I watched the first part of What Women Want, and learned that experiencing other people’s thoughts is chaos.
Okay, before I watch this video, I can confirm that it must, because I telepathically knew that it doesn't.
What then is the reaction some people have where person A sees person B vomiting,causing person A to vomit as well. This is of course not universal
Maybe after another billion years or so of evolution, we may develop sensitive enough EMF sensors for that sort of thing, but there would need to be some sort of pressure necessary to develop it. I won't say it isn't possible, but I do find it highly unlikely, even through the evolutionary process, because again, there needs to be precedent.
Yes, there would need to be "pressure" to drive the evolution, alternatively, if it were to provide a "benefit" that would also do it. In addition, there are characteristics that only evolve via simple preference, such as bright tail feathers. That also could cause it to form, or to spread fast in the population from a random mutation.
I cant see why there would be selective pressure to communicate with our minds, when we already have electromagnetic sensors called eyes that can register expressions, gestures, and symbols from a distance, plus ears and mouths to communicate from a distance without line of sight.
@@incomingincoming1133 Exactly, we already transmit thoughts and we already transmit too much, sometimes inadvertently, therefore there might already be pressure against telepathy. Also the energy expenditure might be too costly.
I think telepathy would be disadvantageous in many ways and selected against by nature.
If we could do telepathy with magnetic fields wouldn't that mean lying in an MRI would be like the loudest scream ever? It would drive us instantly insane.
The idea of telepathy with magnetic fields is an interesting concept, but it doesn't quite translate into practical terms the way you might think. Let's break down the reasons why lying in an MRI machine wouldn't be like experiencing the "loudest scream ever" in terms of telepathy with magnetic fields.
Magnetic Fields and Human Perception
Magnetic Field Sensitivity:
Humans are not naturally sensitive to magnetic fields in the way that we are to sound or light. Our brains do not have the mechanisms to directly perceive or decode magnetic fields into sensory experiences like hearing or seeing.
MRI Magnetic Fields:
MRI machines use strong magnetic fields (typically 1.5 to 3 Tesla, though some can go up to 7 Tesla or more) to align the protons in the body. These magnetic fields are constant and do not change rapidly enough to induce perceptions like sound or light.
Telepathy with Magnetic Fields
Telepathy Hypothesis:
If we hypothesize that telepathy could work via magnetic fields, it would require a highly specialized and sensitive biological mechanism to detect and interpret these fields. This is purely speculative and not supported by current biological understanding.
Magnetic Field Interaction:
Even if such a mechanism existed, the type of magnetic field used in an MRI is uniform and static during the imaging process (except for the switching of gradient coils, which create variations). This uniform field wouldn't create the kind of complex signals necessary for telepathic communication.
MRI Experience
Sensory Experience in MRI:
What people actually experience in an MRI is the noise generated by the gradient coils switching on and off rapidly. This noise can be loud and is often described as a series of knocks or beeps. Ear protection is usually provided to mitigate this sound.
Psychological Effects:
While the noise and confined space can cause discomfort or anxiety, these effects are due to auditory and psychological factors, not direct magnetic field interactions.
Conclusion
Even if we imagine a world where telepathy via magnetic fields is possible, the type of magnetic fields used in MRI machines would not translate into a sensory overload. The magnetic fields in an MRI are static and uniform, not dynamic and varied in a way that could be interpreted as a "scream." Additionally, humans lack the biological mechanisms to perceive magnetic fields directly. Therefore, lying in an MRI machine wouldn't drive us instantly insane through telepathic overload.
In summary, the discomfort or anxiety associated with MRI scans is due to the loud sounds and the confined space, not because of any direct perception of magnetic fields.
Around the 54 minute mark Aron mentions not being able to read in his dreams. I find that I can read in my dreams, at least individual words, but the sentence structure makes no sense at all. It's just random words with no apparent meaning other than just being there. I'm sure everyone has different experiences in their dreams just because we are all different individuals with our own life experiences that tend to influence those dreams. A friend of mine says she only dreams in black & white and doesn't remember seeing any colors, while I see mostly orange and green shades of color im my dreams. I don't think I can recall seeing a full color dream of my own, but I'm pretty sure other people will have that type of dreaming experience.
Awesome colour on the beard and moustache! I want to do that now. Been bored with my beard for a while trying to think of something. It’s very off topic but I appreciate your channel a lot sir. Can’t wait to see the rest of the content with this guy. Not expecting much based off your description 😂
You run towards alleged facts and are heavily let down majority of the time. I applause your attempt each and every time when you’re debating.
One foot is 30.48cm, Dr. Chris at 30:00 in, but if that small slip is all, I'm loving it. (I'm extremely painfully aware of these little mistakes and I had to pause, listen again, double check how long one foot is, then triple check I didn't fail miserably here and then post this garbage comment.) :D
Well, commenting does affect algorithm, so maybe this isn't all worthless, even if garbage.
In the end, it was obviously a little childish hope, but for a moment I thought maybe they had found something. Then the reality came really clear. I don't know would I love it to be true, but it it's fascinating to imagine it and I feel a tiny bit disappointed. :)
Hi, fellow double/triple checker. 👋 my preferred field is spelling and grammar though 😁. I also noticed the foot but as a non American I was just happy to have been given the measurement in metrics for once. 😅
@@pansepot1490 I'm pedantic with everything. Remember the date when something happened? Happy to correct. Make a typo? Happy to correct. I'm annoying that way... Nothing compared to how angry I get when I do a mistake! (To be fair, I'm quite ok failing in English (non-American too), I'm not native, but otherwise...)
Something very weird happened to me once. I woke up one morning, and I had anxiety all day about somebody running into the back of me in their vehicle for some reason. And sure enough, at the end of the day, as I'm going back to the shop, somebody rear ends me with their vehicle. And I'm an atheist and don't believe in the supernatural, but that was very weird, and I don't know how to explain it. And I know that's not telepathy, but is it possible for us to have precognition sometimes, maybe?
I should add that I was sitting at a red light when I got rear-ended by the other vehicle.
I can't think of any natural mechanism that would allow precognition. Can you?
It seems more likely to me that you experienced a coincidence. I have had many nightmares, and I do not remember any of them coming true, no matter how anxious I was about what I had dreamed.
@JaniceLHz coincidence is most likely. But a pretty specific coincidence.
An interesting side note about the possibility that some animals can detect magnetic fields is that one of them are foxes. I'm not sure if it's true or not but there has been some research indicating they might be able to more accurately land a pounce on their prey (such as a mouse hiding under snow) depending on their orientation to the Earth's magnetic field. It certainly would be interesting if true, but it would nothing to do with telepathy.
I'm fascinated by genuine crackpots. Not people that have different opinions on science even if they are weird (Answers in Genesis), but these people who think they have have some insight but no one can understand them. When they try to explain it, all you get is a word salad.
if you blink in Morse code and someone across the room from you knows Morse code, you could technically have* "direct brain to brain communication via electromagnetism", as the reflected photons would, in fact, be transmitting the information from the sender to the receiver via electromagnetic energy.
i don't think this is what the writers had in mind with what they thought was their "golden ticket" publication. with this loophole technicality, I'm one step closer to being a politician.
This would be an instance where, for a change, the mind-reading could be blocked by wrapping the room's lightbulbs in tin foil.
I always tell my friends that if they have to guess what I'm thinking it will always be tacos. So now they will always have the psychic power of reading my mind😂
If telepathy were at all possible, we'd literally all be doing it. It would be a HUGE evolutionary advantage, particularly in humans.
No it wouldn’t. Or do you never think things you would never say out lout to a person?
I can't even read my own mind..
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33:00 You guys think "similar" is a misspelling? What do you think is the 'correct' spelling?
I looked up mirror neurons and the stuff I saw said that they are used for empathy. I'm not saying he's wrong but it's worth taking into consideration.
So what if we stab small needles, like 10 thousand of them, in the brains of the subjects to various depths? Could they then exchange thoughts? Or at least if one of them does it often enough to get a training in it, could he read the other person's thoughts? Because this would be a fantastic interrogation technique. I myself would spill the beans as soon as they bring in the needles to avoid the need to use them.
Can one even detect EMF around the head, without having scalp contact? If we could, can another brain translate it? Why can't I just listen or detect radio waves, and skip the radio set, TV or phone? Why can't my brain detect dangerous radiation that otherwise would kill me?
53:20 ahah, I have recently discovered that I could, sometimes, read and write computer code in my dreams - but it has never happened with anything literary
I remember reading that a dream can't give you "new" information. That what you "see" in dreams will always be information that's already known to you or information your own mind can generate without "external" input. For instance you couldn't "learn" new information from something you could read in your own dream.
Dreaming. Yep. Telekinesis is a common thing in my dreams, which are generally lucid. But even in my most lucid super-realistic vivid colour-saturated full sens-o-surround dreams.. I can't read. I can recognise letters, but each time I look at the same letter, it's different. I can sorta infer or impose meaning, but blink or whatever and when I direct attention back to it, it's either something else or back to scrambled letter-shapes. Perhaps curiously, I dream vividly, but can't form mental images when awake.
"Imagine your mothers favourite dress. Close your eyes. What do you see?" "Black."
"No, imagine the dress. What do you see?" "Black."
"No no. Imagine-" "Black, I tell you. It's ALWAYS black!"
Well, we already "send" brainwaves that can be read by AI and can be turned into the images we're thinking about, and our brainwaves can be read by cells in other parts of the brain from where the signals were sent, we just need a sort of "wi-if" receiving cell that can pick up these brainwaves from a distance.
Mind taking! Ooohooooooooh...
People choose what they like or want to be true, and then find "evidence" to support it. That's what we do. People likely don't read Harry Potter expecting to actually be able to learn magic, but we'd sure like to.
This is true, and funny enough, neuroscience explains why we have all these pesky built-in biases (availability bias, anchoring bias, etc.) which pretty much make us behave that way (believing whatever we wish to believe)!
Once we know this (how easily we deceive ourselves because of the way our brains work), we SHOULD, then, adopt a skeptical position and test our beliefs!
@@britaom3299 That's why science is hard. I'm also thinking we should have a panel of at least 3 judges at all trials to hopefully mitigate some of this. The Pakleds were right: "We are not smart."
Nerd time! Spock and mind melds. The face touch thing is meant to be pressure points rather than a field interaction. Blood flow and nerve manipulation. I think. It's been a while since I watched enough Trek to be more confident, but I'm pretty sure it was posited as altering blood flow more than nerve anythings. Which I always thought was odd, given how vastly different the internals of Trek species are. But.. Eh. Like the transporter was posited to avoid lengthy boring "Dum de dum, we're in a shuttle" scenes, the mind meld was a convenient plot element that developed inertia.
Machines can link brains, so artificial telepathy is a thing. We’re just still figuring out how to do more with it than playing Pong.