Go check out the other amazing science communicators that I mentioned in this video! Links to all of their channels are in the description of this video along with tags telling you what topics they teach.
"The fact that a lot of education is locked behind a paywall" When Milo said that I legitimately went to like the video a second time, because I knew where he was going. edit for clarity: I didn't actually click twice. I had already liked the video and when he made this point I instinctively went to like it again, but didn't because it was already liked.
True on the internet, but my local university library, at least, is open to all for hard copies, and with some effort, you can access on line journals.
@@thegrumpyoldmechanic6245 Problem with that is, most uni libraries are not open to people *not* from the uni walking in there, not even if you're an exemplary library-goer. I've never finished high school (bullying, depression, some sort of neurodivergence (I have 7 of the criteria for ADHD and autism, but they're the ones that overlap, so until I can corner a neuropsych team I'm SOL on a diagnosis), and being too poor to just suck it up and go back to school now that I'm over 35 means I'm never going to be able to have uni access. Tl;dr: physical access relying on uni stuff is not as easy as you think.
@neoqwerty I'm sorry to hear that. I'm a random citizen and can check out books as well as wander through the stacks of the University of Montana library.
As a 17 year old, it makes me happy to see the older generations enjoying this style of content. Helps remind me that the older generations aren’t all ignorant like they’re sometimes made out to be.
Its cool you can admit that and grow, man. Humility is the key to growth and learning. If you can't admit you've been wrong, you can't make room for new information. It's like the stereotype about how teenagers think they know everything so they only learn the hard way; i feel like that is true of many people in different age groups, but that anyone capable of humility is capable of growth. Happy learning ❤😊
It's a wonderful thought that this lecture for 20 or 30 students at Virginia Tech, has now been played in a classroom of 275,000. It's also nice to know, that the seats keep filling, and no one misses the lesson by being tardy.
Just saw the short and looked this up and thought "oh well. How many days will I have to wait for this?" "Premieres in 6 minutes" oh shit my lucky day.
I just graduated medical school, and even in my clinical years I've already experienced the pipeline's effects on our patients. The strange thing is how people will come to our emergency department and then refuse certain treatments because of the pseudoscience they've been taught. I rotated at hospitals on both coasts, and a more and more common thing I hear from the staff to the patients in every hospital I've worked at is "then why are you here?" I believe people go to the emergency department because they were told that's where they need to go when they have a problem, but they've also been told not to trust us or the science behind our work. That leaves people coming to us and then refusing our help. So to anyone who was doubting: yes, the pipeline is hurting people. Sometimes it even kills them. I want you to know that you've inspired me. I've been watching your videos for a long time, but this one was the first that invited me to play a role. It's a role that a lot of people are already doing in my field, but this was the first time someone showed me that we need more, even if they're repeating the same thing. I think I want to give it a try. Truly, thank you. Last, when I was listening to your lecture, I was struck with a question that I think has to be discussed. I agree that a degree isn't necessary to be an expert. But that leaves us with the question of how we define an expert. I don't have a solid answer for that, and I wouldn't be surprised if there wasn't one. Any form of standardization invites the same attacks "the system" already has. I invite discussion on this, since I feel like it's important.
Please, either say more (examples, detail) or direct us where to find information on this specific area. I.E. Folks presenting at ER and refusing various treatments.
@@TheYoufuckingtubeabl My husband ends up in the ER fairly often because of some chronic illnesses, and you overhear things in the next bay over. I've got loads of anecdotal examples, from refusing IVs and painkillers, to people lying about allergies in order to avoid a chemical or food they think is unsafe. It's "I can't have ice in my water, I'm allergic to ice", but in a medical setting; they say "my child is allergic to eggs" because they don't want to have their child get the MMR vaccine, and it's the best way to keep doctors from insisting (despite the fact that the egg protein is virtually non-existent), but then ask for a cake as a snack, knowing that it contains eggs.
I think it was a Professor Dave who acknowledged that modern science is so complex that people are very easily led down the rabbit hole because people tend towards the easiest option, such as Graham Hancock, because Astrophysics is really hard. Keep up the great work Milo.
America as far as its' general population is commonly viewed as = _"scientifically illiterate."_ Consequently the US is the main "customer base" for LAHT claims owing to this reality. LAHT is buoyed in this because the culture of the US is primarily = entertainment-based rather than educational. Americans place far more emphasis upon their "distractions" than they do understanding the world around them. In this they are ironically enough not unlike the Roman Empire in its' latter stages whereby the people sat upon past glories while their society stagnated around them. It is also why coincidentally the US needs to import a lot of STEM qualified people from other nations who place more emphasis upon education - especially science-based education. America's educational system is broken...... 🤷
completely agree! also i think the best way to combat this is (as per usual) schools! i don’t mean textbooks i mean actual teachers who are there to share the wonderful world of science and scientific discoveries! most of these pseudo scientists want to challenge science instead of finding the truth because they view scientists as an authority that wants to control them which is like the exact opposite of what science is.
Professor Dave is an idiot though. The only people he is smarter than are Flat Earthers and tends to be wrong about everything else he tries to talk about.
@@subcitizen2012 fair but that's not to say it wouldn't be dope as shit to see him dunk on Graham Hancock on a live stage in front of thousands of people
@@subcitizen2012 Yeah, it seems Ted Talks have kind of degenerated into talking to various special interest groups that either approve or disprove of said idea before hand.
Hi, I'm a blue collar worker, I've never even been to a university and have no interest in pursuing science as a profession BUT, I still enjoy learning about all the cool stuff that we as a society managed to gather knowledge about, and when I learn something interesting I share it with my friends and family. I'm glad to have that opportunity but, it happens sometimes that I unintentionally spread miss information, so I wholeheartedly agree with what you said about making science more accessible to average people, so we can all learn and not have our minds tainted with lies and biased opinions. Thank you for this lecture and making sure that it reaches as many people as possible. Ps. English is not my first language, I hope the autocorrect caught all my mistakes.
Unintentionally spreading misinformation isn't terrible on it's own, I'd even say that everyone, no matter the level of intelligence or education, does it at some point in their life. The real issue is when people spread misinfo and are averse to having anything they say corrected or contested - and of course the misinfo figureheads like Graham Hancock and many others who I do believe are mostly aware that they are lying. Basically, humility goes a LOOOOOONG way. And your English was perfect, don't sweat it 😄
As someone who actually is persuing a degree in biochemistry, you're probably doing it right. You get to hear about all the cool stuff without having to figure out what the third q°`v is(bunch of goddamn eldrich symbols), because my professor sure as hell didn't give it to me! (In case you can't tell I'm doing homework right now, and I'm waiting for my TA to email back because for some reason he insists on answering our questions with more questions. If I had an answer for his question, I wouldn't be asking my question, now would I?!) Do yeah, keep doing what you're doing. What I'm doing is not worth the torture for most people.
The awesome thing is today in platforms like Edx, You tube and others you actually can find courses from credible universities. Maybe it is not what the algorithm offers first, but anyone still can.
I’m glad people are starting to talk about the rampant anti-intellectualism in our society. It’s scary because it’s one of the pillars of fascism. Based on some online interactions I’ve had discussing student loans, there are a lot of individuals who believe that education is useless unless it directly applies to making money. But to me, every class I’ve taken , everything I’ve learned has helped shape me and my understanding of the world. My inner and outer life. No one can ever take that away from me. It’s probably one of the main reasons I’m a boomer who’s not a fascist white supremacist.
For people in financial desperation, a degree is typically seen as a a barrier to a bigger paycheck. I don't fault them that, especially in the current financial climate. Where it really becomes a problem is when they see having to actually learn the material to pass their courses as unfair.
Milo, I'm 56 and that was one helluva lecture with a helluva closing. It terrified me for the most unusual reason. As a man that has always started his own companies effortlessly, I can't do what you do. Or maybe I can after listening to you... My entire life I've been telling people and helping them to start their own businesses and most of them are rightfully terrified; but I tell them, 'It's okay to be terrified, but you do it by doing it. Just grit your teeth and jump into the deep end and you'll be fine.' Now you're telling me the same thing and it's damn scary... Good job, man. You are one hell of a communicator. Awesome presentation! 30 people saw you live and now your lecture has reached A MILLION PEOPLE! That puts the period on your point.
Word, as a teen in '14 who didn't really understand anything about politics I was watching these atheist videos too before they went anti-feminist (& then worse) & I'm so so glad I had the wherewithall (since I grew up with friends of different races & in predominantly female friend groups) to twig when something sounded suspiciously racist or sexist - as couched in dogwhistles as these channels were - & just unsubscribe. I feel so bad for all the folks who were maybe younger than I was, like Milo, who just didn't have any exposure, or were too young to have life experience to pull from.
I was probably pretty close to falling down the anti-intellectual pipeline via atheist videos too, in retrospect. As soon as they started using "SJW" as essentially a slur, I started to notice something was wrong.
@@enklapeter6181 yeah you're right, I thought that too, unfortunately I completely lost track where the comment was and left it there :( Unfortunately (times two) I've heard this thing about trapping young people in small obscure field in a bad way, usually by grifters or their acolytes who push for abandoning formal education, so my spider senses went off the board automatically.
We have a great science communicator here in Germany, Dr. May Thi Nguyen-Kim she is a chemist and started out on youtube. She now has her own TV show talking about various topics. One sentence from one of her books deeply resonated with me, and it fits this lecture very well. She talks about how we need a common ground of facts that everyone accepts is true to enable discussions about progress and solutions. Misinformation erodes that common ground, which makes it super dangerous. Edit: spelling
@@Zal1810 Eh, Sabine is okay, but she’s said some very questionable and alarming things in the past. Like how she said studying certain things is “useless”.
Scammers and grifters rely on eroding this common ground to peddle their scam. That's why pseudoscience overlaps with scam products and get rich schemes.
The part where you mentioned your edgy / anti-feminist phase resonated with me so much. I similarly had a cringe era where I watched a lot of anti-feminist videos as well as radical conspiracies when I was about 14-15. I didn't really have anyone in my own life to challenge these beliefs, since unfortunately most of my toxically male friends would've just agreed with me. But an important thing I learned was to do some critical thinking, especially towards these videos on the internet that claim to BE critical thinking, and using common sense has kinda made look at the facts and to drive myself away from these dangerous ideologies (such as the ones you've mentioned) which come with these. But ig nowadays I'm almost glad I had that phase and got out of it, because it feels like I have a much better understanding as a more pro-feminism and not as much of a conspiracy person now because I've lived by the other end of those arguments before. Fabulous presentation btw Milo ❤. I can't even tell you how important your work and influence is for the internet and the world. Thank you 🙌
You sound way too domesticated, like "Uhhm, gonna make sure that my political views pass the public consensus filter". I'm sorry, but how, in a post-Epstein world, does one not believe in any form of "conspiracy theory". Also, you claim to be a critical thinker, yet you believe in the unscientific idea that there are no differences between men and women.
I covered the Bosnian Pyramids earlier today, had no idea you'd mention it and didn't know you were gonna premiere today. Great minds think alike they say😁 Awesome lecture, I'll be watching the rest tomorrow as I need sleep now😭
Just found your channel through this comment! Subbed and can't wait to binge your content! Keep up the good fight against ignorance and selfishness and ego! Gwan girl
Hi Milo. I am a 75 yrvold former teacher. I loved your presentation. You are so totally on track. We have provincial exams in Alberta and for decades the teachers had to pore through the exams and see where our students did not score well. For the 42vyears I taught , the critical thinking scores continued to drop. I see that lack in our society. Your challenge to those students is what is needed to help stem this process and begin to reverse it. Thank you. I teared up listening to you
Interesting observation. It got me thinking-critical thinking suffers from religiosity as well, so maybe as one influence fades, it gets replaced by another for easy answers served up ready-made that stops people from thinking.
"If I was only telling this to 40 people, frankly, it wouldn't matter that much" - is a really powerful take. Incredible presentation. Glad to be part of the nearly half a million people who have now watched this online.
@@cf3714 Oh- that's actually a neat idea. And now that I think about it... I do have some files with the date on their name that were always sorted weird... That is, until now! You actually opened my eyes lol
When I was a preteen around 2015-16, I was bullied severely in school and turned to “cringe compilations” as a kind of schadenfreude source; I figured it would help me a little to know there were people who were bigger “losers” than I was. I was never educated by anyone about media literacy or rabbit holes, so I had no way of realizing that this content was leading me right down the alt-right pipeline and was full of dogwhistles. First it was just making fun of bad art or questionable behaviors in public… and then it was making fun of feminists, people of color, and the LGBT+ community with blatant misinformation about their “delusions” and “agendas”. I’m thankful I got out of the pipeline when I did, but the experience left me with a ton of baggage and internalized queerphobia I’m currently in therapy to resolve. All I’m saying is the world needs more people like you, and I wish someone like you was around when I needed it. Keep it up.
That's literally the backstory 99% of the people claiming to be part of some sort of far-right pipeline, it's always some manifestation of internalized, homo-/trans-/queerphobia.
You spouted on the LGBT+ community and delusions, and now you became a trans-men by getting off that pipeline? A zoom out and one would see a transfer of pipeline. The amount of damaging, mind wrecking. scientific lies on tiktok by LGBTQ+ community has done as much internal damages to youth than the hateful conservative take on queer people. Wish you the best for your therapy.
When I was in college and still young and dumb, a professor teaching about how to interpret character motivation in theatre taught me one of the most impactful things that I still apply to my daily life: when you are listening to someone speaking about anything- car salesman, facebook mom, or even your religious leader- you have to ask yourself what motivates them to tell you that? Everyone has motives for everything they do from money to genuine care about your well being, but you have to look at them and from their perspective, what do they have to gain by telling you what they are telling you. This blew my mind because suddenly everyone's motives make way more sense if a person is trying to peddle a product or actually does care about what they are telling you. Anytime I question someone's motives, I have a clearer understanding as to what they are really trying to get from me and if I want to actually receive it or not.
Coming from a guy who dropped out, this was everything I loved about school. Listening to passionate people talk about what they love. Keep yappin Milo
LMilo love, love, love your videos. I’m a boomer and just retired after 31 years as an elementary school teacher.i didn’t discover you until after my retirement in June or I would have been showing clips of your videos daily! I viewed it as my job to teach my 2nd and 3rd grade students how to learn and how to acquire knowledge,and the importance of skepticism in academics.One thing my kids adored was when we talked extensively about programs about ancient aliens and the ubiquitous phrase,”Ancients experts say YES!” after every piece of fake evidence.We talked about how there’s no actual thing as an ancient alien expert. There’s no degree in it, there are no classes, and in fact anyone can say they are an ancient alien expert, including Bob at 7/11. So all year randomly my students or I would randomly announce in self importance voices, things like, “Are the burgers in the cafeteria good 23:57 today? ANCIENT ALIEN EXPERTS SAY YES!” We all got such a kick out of it and I hope it’s the first step in these brilliant kids spreading the gospel of skepticism and a demand for real evidence in the future. Kids are sooooo amazingly smart! We need to focus on bomb proofing their psyche against the craziness these people spread.If we do, we will slowly see a change, I’ve got a lot of faith in Gen Z and Alpha.
Milo, your production schedule is entirely in your head. You don't need to apologise for getting it "perfect" before release; the quality speaks for itself and is well worth the wait.
Last year I watched 2 men's fashion videos, and within an hour it turned from men's fashion, to general advice for men, to andrew tate, and then outright fascists who said women are destroying westen civilization. It was shocking how fast RUclips lined up all that nonsense from men's fashion videos. I bring this up in support for Milo's claim about how these rabbit holes start from an innocent place before devolving into the most crazy shit.
I accidentally gave in to the sensationalism of some of the body camera/auditor/crime/dash cam type videos, and very quickly my shorts feed was all auditors, and shortly after that I started getting alt-right type stuff, and people just being offensive to be “funny.” I had to hit “not interested” on about 50+ videos in a row before the algorithm served me something that I actually subscribe to. That was the last time I really binged shorts, too
Its also not just the algorithm but also how youtube keeps alot of really far right content online simply because its profitable until its big enough to hit news again and can harm youtubes image
as a woman it ruins my day when i get that content shoved into my lap because it’s a reminder that we can’t trust any man because we don’t know his internet history. they’re all consuming this content and then also watching the most violent abusive p*rn imaginable.
A really close friend of mine is very gullible and abit of an airhead, he started falling down the rabbit hole of suedo sciences about 1, almost 2 years ago, right around the time, I discovered this youtube channel. The things he started to believe in left him absolutely terrified and filled with anxiety anytime anything hit the news, the poor guy started to spiral. Thankfully, during one call, i mentioned this channel alongside acouple others, so we started to watch and it, over the period of several months, got him out. He doesnt believe that there's aliens thatll probe him in his sleep or mountain rock snake species that'll come back to life. The way you go about debunking everything makes it easy to absorb, but laugh at in way where you dont feel demeaned or stupid if you believed it, although you do feel silly and embarrassed. Total props to you for all that you've done and all the steps you've come Milo, thank you for what you do!
Good job helping your friend. The thing with pipelines and radicalization- its easier when you're alone. The best way to break those habits is to be supportive and help correct things in real time without being insulting or demeaning. It helps Milo has this channel, but you're the one who brought your friend. Thanks for being a good person
@cap5575 there's a cave in Thailand(?) That looks like a snake, but it's just a rock formation. However, a lot of conspiracy folks see that and say "idk it looks like a massive snake to me so it probably was one"
Things he believed terrified you? Try religion, culture, tradition, can you get your head out your arse to see for a second every individual things differently and that we could all be wrong, the fact people nowadays feel the need to impose ideas like this to save them from themselves is ridiculous. These are the sorts of dicussions we would have about terrorist radicalisation (going on to kill people). The fact you are so worried that he might be wrong is just so out of perspective, like who cares, we all believe stupid shit get on with it
That's the thing that really sucks. A lot of people fall down this pipeline because they're looking for answers to something, and not having those answers makes them feel lost, and what they end up getting is answers that make them feel even more lost and everything they did have a handle on before is now also up in the air. Dale Gribble is the only happy conspiracy theorist.
This video hit home in a way. As an introverted and neurodivergent woman who is a rising 12th grader, I feel like I and many others have a unique relationship with the pseudoscience pipeline and general internet culture. Since picking up on social queues and sarcasm is more difficult, I often find myself having to pause and think about the implications or have to watch something a few more times in order to fully understand the point or content of the media. I am passionate about my love for science but have a hard time discussing it, whether that be because of ASD or the sort of "stop being a smartass" mentality. I fear for fellow neurodivergent people and those who are transitioning into adulthood. With how mind-bogglingly huge the internet has become, its impossible to completely avoid current news, controversies, and the overall feeling that the world we are transitioning into is a hostile place. While I know everything constantly changes, I think this era is particularly rough; combining these creates a sort of hopelessness and "this is how it is" mentality. I truly don't mean any harm when I say that this feeling seems to dull the ability to really think. It makes us more susceptible to not just the pseudoscience pipeline, but the entire sewer system of harm. I love your videos because they are educational, entertaining, and easy to access all wrapped up into a package of knowledge. As someone who plans to go to college and university, I 100% agree that education should not come at a price.
Not to mention that the alt right pipeline that pseudoscience leads to LOVES to indoctrinate minorities. Especially neurodivergent people, as I have realized it seems almost tailored to people stuck outside of society and unable to contribute much change.
Milo, I thought you’d like to know something. I recently became a substitute teacher at a high school in rural western NY, near Rochester. In a social studies class I was covering last week, there was a 15 year old kid who absolutely adores your channel. He does his hair like you and everything and showed me all his drawings of sites like stonehenge and gobekli tepe. Personally, I never went into archaeology, though I wanted to. I’m already married to music. But I’ve been visiting this kid and his family to tutor him in anthro and hopefully get him into the anthro/archaeology program at SUNY Geneseo. And it’s all thanks to you dude.
This seems like a natural step for Milo, educating and telling stories to us and live students at the same time. If this is something of a "lecture" then i am very happy for him. He is fulfilling what he set out to do after that last episode of Ancient Apocalpyse.
Milo, congratulations on the success of your endeavors. I'm 69 years old, I have had an amateur interest in archaeology, anthropology, sociology, and all the other sciences. I'm also a lover of philosophy and comparative religions. And the thing that I find most distressing is how easily people can start with science and facts then drag themselves and the rudimentary facts they have gathered down the rabbit hole of pseudoscience and pseudo-archaeology. In trying to suss the whys and wherefores of this phenomena, what I have discovered is that there's always an agenda attached to this process. One that is attempting to defeat a perceived or real power structure rather than being about revealing the truth. They say thier intent is to reveal the truth, the hidden truth, but it's really about radicalism and bringing down "the man" as we used to say in the 60s and 70s. In other words, power structures and those in control, that is, until you become one of those in the elite and suddenly you go from being radical liberal and progressive to radical conservative and hate monger. As I lived through those eras and watched people who had been on the forefront of radical change become radicalized, egocentric conservatives and hate mongers, I wondered what happened. How could they flip like that, how could they do a complete complete 180 about face. What I noticed was that the most zealot of those who led the charge against the elite, those in power at the time, were often themselves egotistical, self-centered individuals who made whatever cause they were supporting actually all about themselves. I also observed how, as they rallied for freedom of speech, and other proclaimed freedoms they felt they were being deprived of, that when pushed hard enough they devolved into petty tyrants who ranted against those they disagreed with. The terrible thing was that they saw no problem with such behavior, no hypocrisy. For people like this, the "I want to believe" becomes "I desperately need to believe." It was an interesting lesson in human nature, much of what you have discussed in your lecture. So again bravo and congratulations, I love your work.❤
I lost a good friend down this pipeline a year ago. Thank you for helping me see how he got drawn in. I don't know if he'll ever make his way back out, but it helps.
I'm 61, and one of those people that Milo referenced...never formally educated in history or archaeology, but I've spent my life educating myself because both fields fascinate me. Milo is the person that the History Channel needs to turn their channel back into an actual history channel, and not a pseudoscience, pseudoarchaeology, pseudohistory channel. History and archaeology are fascinating, and deserve to be presented to the public in a responsible way. We need to bring younger people to history and archaeology, and I think that (in the world of the internet), the only way to do that is to present them in a dynamic way that will get young people excited about these subjects. Milo is definitely the person to do that. I think that, as a history and archaeology educator, he is a precious resource.
I'm 50 and grew up with Cosmos (and also In Search Of, unfortunately. Bad Spock! Bad!) and watching this I couldn't help thinking Milo has the potential to be the next Carl Sagan, but with a potentially much, much larger audience.
@@matthollywood8060 He's approachable and is exactly the kind of educator that would appeal to a younger audience, and get them interested in those subjects. He should write a book introducing archaeology to children, or talk to classrooms of younger kids...that's where our future archaeologists and historians are.
archeology is a literal pseudoscience, no other branch has been responsible for as many hoaxes. nothing but grave robbers and evidence defilers. disgusting, the lot of them.
As a scientific illustrator I feel super inspired to continue my work! As silly as it sounds, pictures do really help people understand larger scientific concepts!
Agreed, I love reading but i tend to steer a ay of science books because of info dumps. So when i found a book on gravity and other physics which was almost entirely pictures i read it
I think it's just him wanting his words to be the way he wants them, there's a number of times where he mixes up some words, or gets stuck stuttering for a second, and when he's recording a video to edit, he can work sound of that out and not have to worry about people nitpicking that he accidentally said "open them with welcome arms" or something
@@for_fox_aches It depends on type of video. A lecture like this requires minimal editing because it's essentially already made video. A debunking will need to splice parts of content he debunks with narration, some done on camera some off screen, plus adding jokes and segways all while dodging RUclips's copyright sensors.
This video made me realize I may have misinterpreted the "I want to believe" poster my entire life. I always interpreted it as an "I don't believe, but I want to believe", not a "I want to believe, therefore I believe".
That interpretation is correct. People like Milo LOVE to lecture on pseudoscence and cults, while claiming that capitalistic institutions and mainstream religions are somehow "different" and should be respected. I stopped taking this lecture seriously the moment he unironically started using phrases like "that's a dangerous way of thinking". This entire thing is "These groups don't use critical thinking and only tell you shouldn't trust experts. But in reality, you should because they have experience (oh and I'll forget to mention how much corrupt capitalism most of these people are dependent on)." He rightfully shows you shouldn't trust these fringe groups but then WRONGLY pushes the "you should trust whatever sources a fuckton of money has gone into being funded" narrative. He claims you should reject hate cults (which you should) but then tries to make sure you still respect the mainstream religions (ya know, the most powerful of those cults).
Considering I live in New Zealand and would have had zero opportunity to ever see you talking about the thing you love if it hadn't been for social media; I would say you hit the nail on the head with the distribution ideas. Science is so fundamentally awesome, it's so interesting the way different fields come together to explain our world. It's a shame that that knowledge is paywalled for most people
I am a PhD student in Physics. I want to say, Milo, I think your mission is a worthy one. It is incredible the power we have of reaching literally everybody with the technology we have. One thing you hadn’t addressed is the barriers of entry into learning, gaining expertise. There is a lot of practice and work and pain involved. That, I think, is one of the big barriers for getting people into science. Learning is painful! Unfortunately, I feel there is a significant amount of people that HAVE gone through the pain and trials of learning and gaining expertise and obtaining PhD’s and the like, that they have to justify their experience to themselves by making sure every subsequent student goes through the same pain they did, regardless of whether it is necessary. Learning will never NOT be challenging or difficult. It ought to be. But academia is incredibly broken, and SO much of it looks shockingly like nothing more than hazing nowadays….
The worst of it is we're up against things like tiktok that enforce a quick dopamine release loop. How is a process that is long, arduous and painful supposed to compete with nonsense that give people the same biofeedback as if they had completed something of the former category?
The simple fact is that there are two very similar ideas that are actually completely distinct, and they need to be separated for education as a whole to be better. You actually got really close to pointing it out Academia being intrinsically difficult, and having to earn the status of completion Vs the average person/the public being AWARE OF and OKAY WITH the difficulty of academia What all these PhD holders and professors who act this way don’t understand is that every single person in the world should be given access to the chance to get to where they are, but the difficulty should be inherent and respected, not money and rules and hoops
ive seen quite a few guest speaker presentations in my college career, and this is by far the best one ive ever seen, and i wasn’t even there. its clear you’ve been comfortable teaching for a while now, and actually love what you’re doing. insanely good job man
I honestly wish i could personally thank youtubers like Milo, Forrest Valkai, NileRed, Robert Sapolski (via Stanford's free lectures), PBS Eons, and so many more for putting real science in various fields online for people to watch. At 35 years old, i still remember the pre internest day where we had so little resources to learn about the world around us. Even TV wasn't much help because for every show that taught us real science in a fun, exciting way there were 10 shows that were sensational barely factual shows that aired just to get views rather than to teach. I witnessed the rise of ancient aliens, the mockmentaries, and the reality tv style animal shows and it made me sad to lose the ability to actually learn something rather than just being entertained. But i feel like there has been a real effort to bring education to the general public by content creators who have a real passion for their craft and I truly appreciate it. Not only is it entertaining but I feel like Ive reignited my curiosity about life, nature, and science in a way that I don't think i could have otherwise. Keep doing you Milo. That butterfly effect will have you making whirlwinds if you keep going. Best of luck to you and all the youtubers/tictokers like you❤
UCTV's Carta is good too! (Put out by University of California Television) They have a lot of videos about early humans, the way different languages work, etc., that are fascinating.
Thank you for posting this, and I fully agree! I think a good metric for reliability is to pay attention to who genuinely seems to be interested in educating people, versus those who simply want to wow folks with shocking and exciting "facts". Some of those old-school educators are still at it, too. I especially enjoy Bill Nye the Science Guy's channel.
Hello! I'm an arch in the PNW, and I recently took part in a conference where one of the most interesting panels I attended was about approaches to public archaeology. Most attempts at public archaeology (helping regular people understand and engage with archaeology) are mostly in-person community events that often fail to gain attention or completely miss the mark of attracting an intended audience. All this to say, I really appreciate your work and the way you have adapted the thesis of public archaeology to meet people where they're at by engaging them on social media.
Someone here talked about how this reached them all the way in Spain, and I would like to add to that. I'm Icelandic. I live in Iceland, a nation of around 400 thousand people. The reach you are gaining with your channel is amazing to see and I look forward to seeing more people in Iceland watching you.
I have a 23 year old niece and we used to love watching HH together when she was little. Now I have an 8 year old daughter, so I get to enjoy watching it all over again with her. It's an awesome show, it's so much fun that kids don't even realise they're learning some really important historical facts. Lol. ❤
Hi Milo, as a geologist/mining engineer who has done a lot of research into historic metallurgy as a personal passion and been hesitant to actually share that knowledge because I don't actually have a history degree, your push to share information really hit home. Thank you for taking that leap and encouraging us to dispel pseudoscience as well. :)
I know barely anything about metallurgy. But I would 100% watch any video by somebody who is passionate about the history of it. That sounds fascinating and I've literally never thought about it till you put it down in words. Lol
I would LOVE to hear more about historical metallurgy! I am generally interested in ancient crafts and I want to know more about how the people processed metals a couple thousand years ago. Or a couple hundred. If you do not pretend to know everything perfectly but still are as diligent as possible with your research, that should be fine. Just tell people what your sources are. In the historical costuming community there are a lot of people who also do not have history degrees but they all do thorough research and it's awesome what they come up with. Btw. are you familiar with the channel "Fraser Builds"? He makes videos about alchemy and I like how he is doing stuff. If you feel hesitant about making your own video, you could probably reach out to him or other channels that do living history content and ask if they were interested in a cooperation. Maybe that could ease you into it.
Fireplace quote reads "Old Wood to burn, Old books to read, Old friends to trust." which is a shortened version of this quote: "As old wood is best to burn; old horses to ride; old books to read; old wine to drink; so are old friends most trusty to use." by Leonard Wright
That is an absolutely gorgeous fireplace with all the cupboards, shelves and settees.. You can see how that would have been the center of family social life during a long, cold winter.😎👍
Hey, this is the first time i see this channel. And you are totally correct. Moreover, its not just the power of the internet that we have by our side, but the globalization of the english language makes the message understandable for people all around the world that maybe you didnt even imagine they are watching you from there. Im from Spain, this is the first time i watch a video of yours and now i know. I personally feel scared about the idea of being so expossed to that much people on the internet, but at the same time you are right about how now is very accesible for people to impart the knowledge (specially scientific knowledge). And i find it very inspiring and hopeful to frame this period in time as a renaissance in science and knowledge despite all the missinformation being fed outhere. So thanks!
Im a student at virginia tech and i cant believe i missed this. I was out of town and didnt know this was happening. Im glad it was uploaded so that im able to watch it!
As a 16yo, I am _SO_ glad that I found you, Milo, on the internet and other people who promote independent research and responsibility rather than these pipelines
It's so nice to hear about someone else who had been dragged down the far right pipeline and managed to claw his way back out. I used to watch guys like Sargon of Akkad, and now he's gone completely off the rails, while I've gone back to the side of rationality. It's always good to help deradicalize people from those dangerous ideologies while still feeding their interests in healthy ways.
Omg yes, same. I am a very passionate leftist but I am also very critical of certain aspects of leftism and that caused me to go through a phase where I went almost right-wing. Was an avid watcher of Blaire White and Shoe0nHead...
I heard that at some point he (silently) pivoted back to the more pure science and debunk content, seemingly right around the jan 6 insurrection. From this, I've seen it speculated that seeing those events unfold might have been a moment of clarity and reflection for him. Then again, I can't be bothered to go check his channel right now.
@@jamesnomos8472Sargon like Shoe on Head realised that courting the right is far more lucrative, I think there's only Dusty Smith left who didn't jump right for views and money.
Hi. I'm like you just a bit older . When I left high school I wanted to do archaeology but was encouraged to do environmental science. I'm in Oz . After a gov change and the incoming conservative gov gutted the conservation budget I was without a job so I went back and did an anthropology degree . Pressure from family and friends encouraging me to go I to high school teaching . After a few years I had an accident and became disabled. People like you give me hope for the future.
Me too!! Partially homeschooled though, not fully. Parents were total conspiracy theorists. I sometimes wonder what it’s like to be raised normally, how much easier life would be. It’s awesome what Milo does.
@@jaykilborn2508 i know you don't watch Milo from this comment alone, are you really that devoid of hobbies you keep stalking comment sections in videos you won't watch just to curse The Woke
@dee_is_tired You are very perceptive. I have never heard of this man. Before I devote an hour of my life, watching a video, I read the comments first to see if it is worth my time. As for my comment, I was alerting these two individuals that they will be disappointed if they think they will find real science at a woke university.
@@jaykilborn2508 This video isn't even an hour long, though I wouldn't expect someone who unironically uses the word “woke” to be able to correctly read a number.
at the time of watching this is 1 hour scince upload 10,620 views thats 10,000 more people who have heard this talk this message that i think everyone with this mindset of wanting to learn and understand the world around us ,which is basically everyone to some degree, needs to hear compared to the 20 you said where in that room you have at the current moment multiplised the ammount of people who heard this message by x500 We have this worlds where we cant seem to agree on stuff yet the largest most powerful tool to openly discuss this opinions and work together to create the best conclusions on these topics is just being uses as an echo chamber instead of a way to discuss stuff. In part i believe thats the Algorithim but mostly we are the ones who are feeding it the information it is using and we need to learn from that learn to have open discussion challange opinions but in a way that leads to discussion not argument :D Milo this talk was amazing keep up the absolutly awesome work at making the world a better place and i hope we can all follow in yours and so many others footsteps
Wow that is a very kind thing to say. Thank you very much for your words. This is a task for all of us. The tools are at our fingertips and we know more now than ever. It’s a beautiful time to be alive
@@miniminuteman773 So what would you say to a person who used the library to graduate with better grades than most people attending public school? If I could do it in 2003... like, really, the paywall is in your minds. Or if it does exist, it doesn't exist in the way of the information but rather how a person is "qualified" and given a piece of paper to say as much. I've been a handy-man, a machine operator and a few other things but, nowadays, I have to pay for those certifications that tell the world I know what I know. It's not legal, for example, for my town to come together and sign me a contractors permit. I HAVE to go through the pay channels. It did not used to be this way. Instead of spending tens of thousands of dollars on heavy equipment training, you could rise from a laborer being trained on site in ANY company. Your experience was the certification. And if inspectors are honest people, contractors aren't better in the way of work done.
I teach history at a community college, and your videos really help me counter the pseudo archaeology and pseudo history some of my students have been influenced by.
Here is pseudoarcheology, on the engineer side there is new "perpetum mobile" and "free energy" machine every week... You all are doing "god's work". As an engineer, thank you all from the bottom of my heart❤
I feel like we are getting more fake gadgets than ever - not just people harnessing fears of energy transition from fossil fuels, but like... ive seen what are essentially just small electrical impulse machine marrketed as cure all, as good a chiro practor, or even anti cancer, and they are for sale on amazon, tik tok ect....
As someone who got to see the first goldenage of science communication through social media with the likes of scishow, crashcourse, CGP Grey, etc, it was disheartening to see many creators struggle with and fall off with the algorithm over the years. It has brought me great joy to see the likes of you and others making a comeback, at a time when clear and entertaining education is needed the most in an ever more interconnected world. From the bottom of my heart, thank you.
God I loved CrashCourse. I think I actually still have a playlist of all the interesting-topics videos I hadnt had a chance to watch that's like, 10 years old. I should go watch that.
Milo, I've only recently found your channel and I can say it's been a while since I last binged channel content so consistently like I have yours in recent weeks. It's been so awesome learning about archeology from your channel. I'm an undergraduate student of Journalism and I've always loved reading about history. You managed to not only to keep me entertained and learning; but you have been so inspiring! From a journalistic perspective, I have also seen the problems that misinformation causes. I think in one of the first videos I watched of this channel, you say that misinformation stems from lack of education, and it kind of made things click in my head. Recently, our department of journalism was consolidated, so now there is more of a focus on science and environmental reporting. Amongst many other creators, you have been a huge influence in the best possible way. These videos remind me of my dad, who passed away last year. He too had some fun ideas with his coworker to bring science to a wider community. He had a passion for learning and a curiosity about the world that was truly inspiring. I really want to make something of my degree and science communication seems not only awesome, but truly filling a need role. I want to help and raise people up like you do; it's truly inspiring. And you are absolutely correct, Einstein with a RUclips channel would be sick. My hats off to you, Miniminuteman 🎉
The reason (one of many) why Milo and creators/educators like him are so successful is because not only are they making knowledge accessible but they are presenting it in a way where we don’t feel like morons for being naive about the topic. Science is extremely intimidating and it doesn’t take much to scare away those who felt curiosity tapping on their shoulder. Milo and the others take away this air of judgment and snobbery that the sciences seem to carry. Milo doesn’t “dumb it down” for us, he just knows how to rewrite the language so we can understand it. That’s a very hard skill and that’s what makes these inspirational teachers so amazing. (Along with their love and passion for the subject.) Milo is also an amazing orator; a skill very few people have. It’s hard to believe how young he is sometimes because of it! Anywho, I digress! I think the only explanation missing from his great lecture about pseudoscience is the lack of critical thinking skills. I took an undergraduate class literally called: “Critical Thinking: Weirds Beliefs and Why We Have Them”. One of the best classes I ever took and I think it should be mandatory. It’s a key element in pseudosciences, cults, superstitions,etc. And it’s actually a bit terrifying how many people lack critical thinking (I’m not exempt from this in many ways , no one is lol). It certainly helped me understand the world a bit more.
Science is only intimidating if you get tossed into the deep end of a subject right out the gate and you get overwhelmed with terminology you have no context or understanding of. Science and math are the types of subjects where you HAVE to build up understanding through fundamentals before getting to the fun stuff.
@@MisterZimbabwe and that’s exactly why it’s intimidating. I grew up in New Mexico, USA. We rank between 48th and 49th in education out of 50 states. I failed at math because I never got the building blocks nor the foundation and it resorted in me having to cheat to not fail. In high school one of the chemistry teachers was caught cooking meth (this was before Breaking Bad ; I’m certain they based the show on her) and so you know who took her place? An algebra teacher. I “learned” chemistry from an algebra teacher who gave out work packets; we made ice cream for a lab. How can students be inspired when what we are given is barely the bare minimum. The other science teachers had as much personality as a rock and the one teacher who was amazing made the subject near impossible for normies to pass. There was no medium. All or nothing and I know this is happening is the majority of schools around the USA.
@@fire_lily895 You speak the truth. I got bounced from a mediocre school in 1-6th to a rich kid school due to a quirk in how district lines were drawn and so much shit just shut me down because they didn't cover it at the crappy school. I will say, thank god for Khan Academy (Well, thank Khan and everyone else who helps maintain that website)
Watching milo made me learn that every archeological evidence has a bit of history that may tell, in which through various research of science may uncover a truth that people can learn from. I find that more interesting honestly than any ancient aliens, illuminati or any other cringe conspiracy concepts.
Critical thinking is a mandatory class in the California state university system. As an ex cult member I am quite passionate about it! I went back to school and was lucky enough to teach it.
it's actually interesting that you mentioned how lectures don't have enough reach, because one thing I love about the The Royal Institution is the fact that their lectures are released for free on youtube, it was the first time I had the opportunity to watch lectures from prominent scientists. imagine if every university released their lectures for free ?
There are a lot of academic lectures on youtube, but they tend to be a bit obscure because they're not algorithm friendly and buried in small institutional channel. So you really have to go look for them (or teach the algorithm that you want them recommended)
A ton of universities actually do that but as said you need to actively search for them since they absolutely do not make the algorithm happy. Try to search for very specific terms instead of broad terms and follow it with “university course” so instead of “quantum mechanics” search “introduction to quantum physics, ultraviolet catastrophe, university course” or something like that. Of course the issue here is that in order to find these lectures you need to be so familiar with a field that you'd probably recognize misinformation quickly. Also the thing about university lectures vs public lectures like the ones given at The Royal Institution is that they're aimed at students and aren't trying to be accessible. A lecture from The Royal Instituion about electromagnetism probably won't even show Maxwell's equations but an actual university course about electromagnetism would expect you to already understand most of classical mechanics and that means knowing calculus and linear algebra at the very least.
The value of your comments around the issues of traditional sci-com are immeasurable! Great presentation / video for anyone to watch to not only understand the importance of factual discussion in science, but also any online information. Great idea Milo.
Milo you are wonderful! I am approaching 69 yrs oldand a retired librarian. I used to teach "how to search for quality information on the internet (back to the days of the Boolian Search)". How to determind a research article from popular magazines, & how to search a library online catalog successsfully. I also worked off the cuff with fairly current subjects. I also talk fast.
Well spoken! Had a gaming buddy that went down the radicalization path and unfortunately we couldn't pull him out of it. It's really scary how it starts with believing something small (and seemingly harmless) and ends up with distrust of anyone that doesn't share those views. Can't wait for more debunking!
I had a friend who started watching biblical pipeline bullshih (anunaki, etc), led to far right horseshih, got quietly radicalized and well he ended up committing a homicide /suicide one night. it took like ten years but it ended two lives and ruined several more the night it all went down
Sadly I think most of us have had a friend like that over the last decade. For me it was a friend who started off on the odd - but you would think fairly harmless - conspiracy theory that the Moon is actually a gigantic ancient alien spaceship. Weird, but OK, I've heard a lot worse, maybe he's just being quirky. But fast forward a few years, he follows the rabbit-hole pipeline downwards, and now he's ranting actual full-on neo-Nazi bullshit and loses all his friends, and his job....
@@firstlast2636 that's paranoid. Nobody shares your ENTIRE set of beliefs, if you mistrust people because they're, say, a different denomination, ideology, or plainly don't like Metal, you're going to end up really sad and isolated.
I had an old best friend for a while, were roommates and part of a larger friend group. One year he had to pay like $150 in taxes or something. Then he got new roommates that did nothing but bitch about Obama in 2012. Then 2016 he was a self avowed libertarian that wanted trump in. Today, don't talk to him and can't talk to him unless it was just about video games or how things are going, and I don't really want to know anything beyond that. Once you've got the earwigs they tell you you are special a d more special than other people, and no one else deserves anything because you perceived that you had something taken from you, it's all downhill from there into the grievance gutter. Then you're cheering on the demise of democracy, cheering on Russia, cheering on Israel, cheering on mass deportations, and mocking people that just want decency and equality.
as someone who is currently in college studying to be an archaeologist, i adore this channel and the information it holds. my first archaeology class i took in university had a whole week dedicated to psuedoarchaeology, and we looked specifically at the bosnian pyramids, but there are so many other psuedo topics and schemes that i had no idea about preceding this channel. i wish i could hear a lecture by you at some point milo, because part of the reason im so excited to go into this field is to find ways to make archaeology more accessible for people to be able to find the right information.
I have to say, I found your channel when you posted the Graham Hancock debunking video and I was so excited to find someone who is willing to debunk something Netflix posted. The fact that huge production companies can just post whatever they want is absolutely crazy and I am so grateful that you called out the bullshit and I hope other people do. I never watched ancient apocalypse, I just watched your series on it. But my dad did and I was able to say "no no no, we can't believe anything on Netflix anymore". You're awesome man. Additionally, I wish there were more teachers who are as good at communicating as you are. I'm not super interested in archaeology but you could get me interested in anything just because of how good you are at speaking and how exciting about science
I am from Spain. This is reaching to basically the other side of the world. Here a LOT of people believe in pseudoscience, specially old people, I have seen it in older colleages and my own family, they get fed with tons of misinformation, annunaki, ancient aliens, master race, etc, and I myself did wonder about how and why and believed those things too. Then you came along and I began to use more critical thinking, and I let myself actually be impressed by the intelligence humanity has. About our perseverance and creativity. I am very spiritual, a pagan to be exact, but that doesnt make me take away merit for our acomplishments through the millenia. What a wonder to be a human. I will do my part to let people know, I will even act as a translator to your words because they NEED to be heard. Thank you for everything!
It's a shame RUclips removed Community Captions, there was a time viewers could translate videos and add subtitles in their language for RUclipsr to approve.
@@KasumiRINAthe pretext was that they couldn't revoew everything and channel owners didn't speak so many languages. In the end a big channel doing lives can have community moderators and smaller channels can use auto translate, but the fact is youtube has vastly limited ways in which people can support and improve the reach of their preferred creators by removing community subtitles =/
@@KasumiRINA it is a shame indeed... I would love to translate his vids to spanish so it reaches to more people who dont speak english! But alas, youtube and their weird systems...
I'm a biologist and also studied science communication. My education (and my sense of normal/professionalism) headed towards teaching complicated things to fairly intelligent teenagers. Hardly any attention to grown-ups, hardly any attention to kids that will work in a factory, or have a cognitive impairment. I was confused and got sidetracked, I ended up becoming a social worker and I had TONS of fun explaining difficult concepts about society, laws, health care etc to people with cognitive impairments, people with serious delusions etc. 20 years on, it's getting time to do something else, flex another part of my brain again. I agree so much with you about how amazing the opportunities are these days. Social media are ever evolving and while they have horrible aspects, they also have a fascinating access across social classes, culture, ethnicity etc. The business model of social media is based on engagement, so their engineering is built to favour content that attracts most engagement. Leave it to billions of users and creators to experiment and find out what exactly engages. I'm too old to do tiktok dances whilst screaming biology factoids and that probably wouldn't work anyway. But as science communicators, we do need to embrace all the crazy shit on social media and find our angle in there. My young kids and I have recently discovered the SpongeBob Jellyfish Dance Challenge. We are sort of not officially practicing the moves and.... It hurts, man! It hurts... I have this idea that a medical science or biology communicator could do something with that. Do a tiktok dance and explain which muscle starts aching after a certain move and why. For now, I still fall over, so I gladly donate this idea to a more flexible colleague.
So this isn't the type of content I usually watch but oh my goodness did I love sitting on my couch and listening to you talk about these important topics. Thank you Milo! You are one of the various reasons why I'm going back to school (I'm almost 40!) to get my degree in environmental science. I'd like to do archeology but I don't know if I realistically could make a career of it. Just thank you Milo so much!! Keep up the amazing work!❤❤
Thank you for doing this, and trust me, it matters a whole lot I was a young teen who fell into the original gamergate pipeline- good ol’ “SJW destroyed” videos. It destroyed a large part of my life growing up. I denied my sexuality for years, lived in constant insecurity, and lost lifelong friends over the horrible things I’ve said- some of them I could never apologize to anymore. Nobody should lose their humanity to these conspiracies, and people who think they’re harmless are woefully ignorant. You may not convince them now, but you’re a piece of the puzzle. You’re another voice who just might pull them out.
I just want to say thank you. I'm 62 I love your content and have been watching you for over a year. Milo you have given me back hope and showed me that there is a a voice of reason in this crazy social media age . You are an amazing young man and you have a great future. Much respect my man👍👍👍
As a physicist with interests in both science outreach/communication and history, it’s clear that interdisciplinary learning is the way forward! Thanks for making such great content!!
Wait wtf Milo was in Virginia Tech, that's where I go and I'm literally watching this video in my dorm at VT. How had I not realized this? I wish you had said you were gonna be doing this, I absolutely would've wanted to come see it in person
I fell down the Alex Jones pipeline, and I am absolutely annoyed by that version of myself. Didn't have friends to help me out as I was stuck in a small religious community as a kid.
Glad you made it out. The Alex Jones and small religious community overlap is probably pretty substantial. It's not a coincidence. Once someone has one reason to doubt something about government or institutional knowledge and epistemology, the rest can go very quickly. Alex Jones is a pan-conspiracy theorist peddler. He either believes or presents that he believes in almost every conspiracy theory out there. Once you fall in his lap because you believe one thing he said, 2 years later you believe everything he says. I watched his career bud from scratch from the outside. He was on public cable access TV back in the late 90s, then local radio into the 2000s, then started his website and RUclips from there. He went from being fringe fringe borderline entertainer to bear mainstream, way way too many people got caught up in his bs, but whets worse is he was sort of the gateway drug for things that came later loke the covid anti vaxx and Qanon stuff. I think, I hope, that subculture peaked and d is started to get into the rearview. But hard to say. At least we can somewhat say it for Alex.
Hey, I just want you to know that my professor at Hamilton College played this video for us! It was super exciting to see it was you, so keep up the great work!
Milo sees the internet the way I do, and it's incredibly reassuring to know others feel the same way about how unfathomably powerful the internet is a tool for learning, both true and false information
This is why when people tell me things they see on the internet I always ask what the source was and where their source got their source. Just because it’s on the internet doesn’t mean it’s true.
I have 3/4 of a bachelors in astrophysics and 10 years of corporate training and adult learning theory and RAGING ADHD in my late 30s. I have mulled over the idea of making a RUclips channel on and off for years, but I don’t really know what to talk about. But you know what? Maybe I should just make a channel where I talk about whatever cool thing I’m fascinated by that week and give my poor wife a break from my infodumping. This was really inspiring and it’s so cool to see your success and building acclaim borne from the simple need to inform. You’re one of my heroes, Milo. I hope you know how much of an impact you have on people.
Not just for younger generations, I love the things I am learning at 51. I have found more than a few channels that sounded legit at first, but it looks like, never passes the sniff test with me.
Never really thought about how a large portion of the population hold the most power tool in our pocket. And it is only powerful because there are so many who have it. Wonderful lecture! Wish you could speak at my college some day
I am 15 and I am very grateful to know about your channel and I am very grateful of you teaching people about the pipeline so that others like me wouldn't go into. You might have if not certainly saved me from becoming a bad person. I am really grateful to find the educational side of RUclips and learn useful information. Thank you greatly
Let's discuss intellectually. Milo is not here with any evidence. The first thing you should do is read philosophy if you actually want to understand the truth.
@@crabb9966we need lots of people to learn lots of different things. No one can specialize in everything. Then discussion is important to put the pieces together.
as someone that’s done academic research presentations, i just gotta say i love the template and format of your slides lol 23pt. + and no unnecessary text or pics YESSS
This is absolutely spot on, Milo! I deal with flat earthers mostly, but this is exactly what people should know about the pseudoscience peddlers. Well done! 👏
Ugh, those people. Had a bloke think that you don't need to account for observer height when finding how far you should be able to see on a globe(such as being on top of a mountain) if you lie down. Those people are completely nuts.
I'd say about 70 or so percent of flat earthers don't believe the bullshit they're peddling and are just looking for attention. That still leaves the 30% that actually believe that shit. (source on the numbers: fresh from my ass)
I really like your point about the fact that there's really no place for people interested in archaeology to go. I used to love watching natural history and archaeology documentaries when I was growing up. I would binge History and Discovery in my early 20s, but then there those channels made this gradual shift to the pseudo sciences. Which is totally crazy to me, because these were places with fairly solid information. Or, at least, the only place I could get 24 hours of the stuff I was interested in. I could put up with 2% of ancient aliens if 98% of the channel is legit. Meanwhile, the channel producers are looking at their numbers and realizing that a) slightly more people are watching that 2%, and b) it's way easier to produce a TV show when they don't have to verify a single fucking thing that's being presented. Also, well done on that presentation. I think I only saw a single cut in the whole thing, which was a nice. You are an engaging presenter regardless of the platform.
No but comparing pseudoscience/history/archeology to cults is legitimately one of the best ways to explain how it happens, why it happens, to who it happens, why you’re not immune either, and why it really matters that it’s happening. Also, I think it can snap some people at the start of the pipeline back to reality to hear just how close to a circle is the venn diagram of “stuff alternate history truthers say”, “stuff that was dogma in a cult that killed people”, and “stuff neo nazis would agree with”.
What group of people have, historically for the last 75 years or so) ridiculed people who have UFO experiences (I'm NOT saying UFOs are real or not)? Are their actions those of scientists? What group of politically minded people ridicule and lie such that people thought Obamacare would be the worst social policy ever? Why is there a flurry of publishing in a given academic area, once the top dog of that academic area dies? (google the peer-reviewed paper) Hint: collective narcissism.
As a content consumer, can I also just say that finding reliable, factual, and easily consumable sources of real information-- like yourself, Milo-- is invaluable. I don't know enough to always know when I'm being lied to, but I trust that you, Lindsay, and others will usually steer me down the right path!
Yeah it's been about double the total time of the lecture, and it's reached nearly a thousand times the people that were in that room. The scientific community has got to start using social media to do science education, it can't afford to not take this opportunity. On a personal level, I know that good, accurate paleontology content on RUclips has reignited my childhood, obsessive, autistic love of dinosaurs, and I will be forever grateful that the RUclips platform enabled this.
Your Dinosaurs Are Wrong - Channel examining dinosaur toys/model reconstructions, listing correct and incorrect aspects of each toy Moth Light Media - a good mix of mesozoic paleontology and discussion of how modern animals evolved. Very calming. Ben G Thomas - discussion of new paleontology news as well as general paleontology topics. Has a good review of Walking With Dinosaurs. Paleo Analysis - good answering of general questions, but also does review of specific ecosystems and species, ongoing video series covering history of life I'll add more later
@@celestinemorningstar4851Thanks for the recommendations! Love Ben G Thomas's content, and now I have some others to check out. I'd also like to recommend Stefan Milo, whose channel covers human evolutionary history and anthropology. What I like most about him is how he portrays our ancestors as normal people and helps the viewer empathize with them, even though they lived very different lives to us.
Making this a new comment for the notification: Henry the Paleo Guy - longer content about specific genera, similar to Moth Light Media. Also covers more modern animals on occasion. EDGE Media - longer content, covers most big paleo news and new papers. Channel also covers cryptids, but it's avoidable. Generally rather digestible, but can be a bit... RUclipsy. Any of the PBS stations - utterly primo paleontology content. The kind of videos you can put on for younger family members. Scicom at it's most professionally polished. Extinct Zoo - I kinda hesitate to recommend him, as his content can get into sensationalist territory while still presenting itself as educstional. However he does do a good job of discussing lesser known topics and species. Proceed with caution. I'll make another comment if I can think of any other prominent channels.
Thank you to Grace and Virginia Tech for allowing you to put this up on youtube- as you say, it’s vastly more impactful the more people can see a presentation like this.
I think this is one of the more imminent issues of our time. Here watching for the second time while I also watch friends and family shout that the government controls the weather and is directing hurricanes against their own citizens. I've been blocked and even threatened for trying to have a conversation about it; as someone trained in emergency response it is infuriating knowing these conspiracy theories are impeding actual rescue efforts and undoubtedly costing lives but on a personal level it hurts to know the people who I respect and think more highly of are so willfully ignorant of scientific methodology. What you do with your platform is so incredibly important, thank you and keep up the great work! If you're ever looking for a connection in the Ozarks, feel free to reach out. We've got some good stuff.
Pulled up RUclips thinking, "Man, I could really kick back with the 20 - 30 minute video talking about something I'm interested in. Not only made in depth with thought and passion behind it, but something that I can think back on and take with me into tomorrow." Fuckin love my sub page
When they put that much effort into saying something is misinformation it means there is something they don’t want you know. Just kidding I’m not stupid.
@@dudestep 🤣 i was about to say. I didnt look at them all, and cant remember much bc i liked the posters that didnt talk about tiktak. But 2 i remember were talking about fluoride (bc ofc people still think its bad) and this weird snail mucus or whatever that people have been saying is so good for your face, your skin. And the poster was like, yeah 95% of people saying these things literally just want you to buy something. Gotta love capitalism
Golly…education being locked behind a paywall has been one of my biggest qualms with this country and the world as a whole. You’re so eloquent Milo. All of this was said so well
Go check out the other amazing science communicators that I mentioned in this video! Links to all of their channels are in the description of this video along with tags telling you what topics they teach.
I don’t see the links in the description.
Is that a joke? 😂
(Edit: there are links now!)
Oh hey, there's links now.
hey science man
@@Yellowredstone At first, I thought you were making it up, but then I refreshed just to be sure.
Not a single “fuck” uttered throughout this entire presentation. I’m not sure if I’m disappointed or impressed.
we did get a few damns and shits, and a bullshit, so im content
He still cursed which is great
You don't know what I said. Hehehehe
The signal-to-fuck ratio is all messed up
He’s on “methadone” language 😉
Milo, I am 63, and really wish I had had teachers like you when I was in school. Keep on doing what you're doing, I have been enjoying the education.
As an 18 year old, I wish I had teachers like him now lol
@UncleHamsBasedOpinions it's great to have Milo, his enthusiasm for his subjects is a great way to learn
He really does seem like he'd be a great teacher. I'm 40 and really love his content. He's seems so personable and just fun to listen to
I’ll be 65 in June. Milo’s great!
@@chuckdavidson5483 damn right!
"The fact that a lot of education is locked behind a paywall" When Milo said that I legitimately went to like the video a second time, because I knew where he was going.
edit for clarity: I didn't actually click twice. I had already liked the video and when he made this point I instinctively went to like it again, but didn't because it was already liked.
True on the internet, but my local university library, at least, is open to all for hard copies, and with some effort, you can access on line journals.
@@thegrumpyoldmechanic6245 Problem with that is, most uni libraries are not open to people *not* from the uni walking in there, not even if you're an exemplary library-goer.
I've never finished high school (bullying, depression, some sort of neurodivergence (I have 7 of the criteria for ADHD and autism, but they're the ones that overlap, so until I can corner a neuropsych team I'm SOL on a diagnosis), and being too poor to just suck it up and go back to school now that I'm over 35 means I'm never going to be able to have uni access.
Tl;dr: physical access relying on uni stuff is not as easy as you think.
@@neoqwerty I'm sympathetic to your situation. Good luck.
@neoqwerty I'm sorry to hear that. I'm a random citizen and can check out books as well as wander through the stacks of the University of Montana library.
@@thegrumpyoldmechanic6245 I believe that is your personal experience with whatever university you live near. I know it is not for most.
Thanks Milo, you brought me out of a few rabbit holes. I’m 72 and glad to say that I can still learn. It’s appreciated more than you know.
As a 17 year old, it makes me happy to see the older generations enjoying this style of content. Helps remind me that the older generations aren’t all ignorant like they’re sometimes made out to be.
Spitting fax all around
Its cool you can admit that and grow, man. Humility is the key to growth and learning. If you can't admit you've been wrong, you can't make room for new information. It's like the stereotype about how teenagers think they know everything so they only learn the hard way; i feel like that is true of many people in different age groups, but that anyone capable of humility is capable of growth. Happy learning ❤😊
@@Someone-sq8im No we’re not. Thanks.
@Someone-sq8im Wow what a stupid and disrespectful thing to say. It's obvious your parents did not teach you any common sense.
It's a wonderful thought that this lecture for 20 or 30 students at Virginia Tech, has now been played in a classroom of 275,000.
It's also nice to know, that the seats keep filling, and no one misses the lesson by being tardy.
316,000 now!
Currently 330,000
The way you wrote this is absolutely brilliant
yeah well this minuteman guy confirms the theory that all archeologists are not engineers or geologists. They are feminists of the science field.
405,303 and counting!
Just saw the short and looked this up and thought "oh well. How many days will I have to wait for this?" "Premieres in 6 minutes" oh shit my lucky day.
i got done with dinner when it was 10 min old
I found it 30 seconds before it started
Same, except i found out a good few minutes ago.
Yeah I saw the short and literally one second later I was watching, what a great day!
Me too bro Literally same time lmao
I just graduated medical school, and even in my clinical years I've already experienced the pipeline's effects on our patients. The strange thing is how people will come to our emergency department and then refuse certain treatments because of the pseudoscience they've been taught. I rotated at hospitals on both coasts, and a more and more common thing I hear from the staff to the patients in every hospital I've worked at is "then why are you here?" I believe people go to the emergency department because they were told that's where they need to go when they have a problem, but they've also been told not to trust us or the science behind our work. That leaves people coming to us and then refusing our help. So to anyone who was doubting: yes, the pipeline is hurting people. Sometimes it even kills them.
I want you to know that you've inspired me. I've been watching your videos for a long time, but this one was the first that invited me to play a role. It's a role that a lot of people are already doing in my field, but this was the first time someone showed me that we need more, even if they're repeating the same thing. I think I want to give it a try. Truly, thank you.
Last, when I was listening to your lecture, I was struck with a question that I think has to be discussed. I agree that a degree isn't necessary to be an expert. But that leaves us with the question of how we define an expert. I don't have a solid answer for that, and I wouldn't be surprised if there wasn't one. Any form of standardization invites the same attacks "the system" already has. I invite discussion on this, since I feel like it's important.
Please, either say more (examples, detail) or direct us where to find information on this specific area. I.E. Folks presenting at ER and refusing various treatments.
I was shocked when I went for breast lump assessment & the specialist asked if he could examine me. How else could he diagnose my cancer!
@@TheYoufuckingtubeabl ask any nurse that worked in the COVID wing of a hospital during the pandemic.
@@TheYoufuckingtubeabl My husband ends up in the ER fairly often because of some chronic illnesses, and you overhear things in the next bay over. I've got loads of anecdotal examples, from refusing IVs and painkillers, to people lying about allergies in order to avoid a chemical or food they think is unsafe. It's "I can't have ice in my water, I'm allergic to ice", but in a medical setting; they say "my child is allergic to eggs" because they don't want to have their child get the MMR vaccine, and it's the best way to keep doctors from insisting (despite the fact that the egg protein is virtually non-existent), but then ask for a cake as a snack, knowing that it contains eggs.
You've directly inspired a pastime essay on what makes an expert. I may be back...
I think it was a Professor Dave who acknowledged that modern science is so complex that people are very easily led down the rabbit hole because people tend towards the easiest option, such as Graham Hancock, because Astrophysics is really hard. Keep up the great work Milo.
America as far as its' general population is commonly viewed as = _"scientifically illiterate."_ Consequently the US is the main "customer base" for LAHT claims owing to this reality. LAHT is buoyed in this because the culture of the US is primarily = entertainment-based rather than educational.
Americans place far more emphasis upon their "distractions" than they do understanding the world around them. In this they are ironically enough not unlike the Roman Empire in its' latter stages whereby the people sat upon past glories while their society stagnated around them.
It is also why coincidentally the US needs to import a lot of STEM qualified people from other nations who place more emphasis upon education - especially science-based education. America's educational system is broken...... 🤷
@@varyolla435look, I’m a Texan. We know America is fucked.
completely agree! also i think the best way to combat this is (as per usual) schools!
i don’t mean textbooks i mean actual teachers who are there to share the wonderful world of science and scientific discoveries!
most of these pseudo scientists want to challenge science instead of finding the truth because they view scientists as an authority that wants to control them which is like the exact opposite of what science is.
Professor Dave is an idiot though. The only people he is smarter than are Flat Earthers and tends to be wrong about everything else he tries to talk about.
Honestly the next logical step for our favorite archaeologist would be doing a TedTalk which I would 100% watch
abso-friggin-lutelyyyyyy
Ted talks were relevant like 15 years ago. He's doing just fine on TikTok and RUclips.
@@subcitizen2012 fair but that's not to say it wouldn't be dope as shit to see him dunk on Graham Hancock on a live stage in front of thousands of people
@@subcitizen2012 Yeah, it seems Ted Talks have kind of degenerated into talking to various special interest groups that either approve or disprove of said idea before hand.
or, and hear me out - Tiny Desk Concert
Hi, I'm a blue collar worker, I've never even been to a university and have no interest in pursuing science as a profession BUT, I still enjoy learning about all the cool stuff that we as a society managed to gather knowledge about, and when I learn something interesting I share it with my friends and family. I'm glad to have that opportunity but, it happens sometimes that I unintentionally spread miss information, so I wholeheartedly agree with what you said about making science more accessible to average people, so we can all learn and not have our minds tainted with lies and biased opinions.
Thank you for this lecture and making sure that it reaches as many people as possible.
Ps. English is not my first language, I hope the autocorrect caught all my mistakes.
Got it perfect dawg👏
Unintentionally spreading misinformation isn't terrible on it's own, I'd even say that everyone, no matter the level of intelligence or education, does it at some point in their life.
The real issue is when people spread misinfo and are averse to having anything they say corrected or contested - and of course the misinfo figureheads like Graham Hancock and many others who I do believe are mostly aware that they are lying.
Basically, humility goes a LOOOOOONG way.
And your English was perfect, don't sweat it 😄
As someone who actually is persuing a degree in biochemistry, you're probably doing it right. You get to hear about all the cool stuff without having to figure out what the third q°`v is(bunch of goddamn eldrich symbols), because my professor sure as hell didn't give it to me! (In case you can't tell I'm doing homework right now, and I'm waiting for my TA to email back because for some reason he insists on answering our questions with more questions. If I had an answer for his question, I wouldn't be asking my question, now would I?!)
Do yeah, keep doing what you're doing. What I'm doing is not worth the torture for most people.
I'm always most impressed by self educated people.
The awesome thing is today in platforms like Edx, You tube and others you actually can find courses from credible universities. Maybe it is not what the algorithm offers first, but anyone still can.
I’m glad people are starting to talk about the rampant anti-intellectualism in our society. It’s scary because it’s one of the pillars of fascism. Based on some online interactions I’ve had discussing student loans, there are a lot of individuals who believe that education is useless unless it directly applies to making money. But to me, every class I’ve taken , everything I’ve learned has helped shape me and my understanding of the world. My inner and outer life. No one can ever take that away from me. It’s probably one of the main reasons I’m a boomer who’s not a fascist white supremacist.
Dismayed by the ignorance of my fellow man. Very few people have critical thinking skills these days.
Musashi said if you want to learn the sword, study the lute and calligraphy
Sadly this notion is perpetuated by thevery instuitions that should be against it. Universities, especially the private ones
Buzzword soup. Traded one devil for the other.
For people in financial desperation, a degree is typically seen as a a barrier to a bigger paycheck. I don't fault them that, especially in the current financial climate. Where it really becomes a problem is when they see having to actually learn the material to pass their courses as unfair.
Milo, I'm 56 and that was one helluva lecture with a helluva closing. It terrified me for the most unusual reason. As a man that has always started his own companies effortlessly, I can't do what you do.
Or maybe I can after listening to you...
My entire life I've been telling people and helping them to start their own businesses and most of them are rightfully terrified; but I tell them, 'It's okay to be terrified, but you do it by doing it. Just grit your teeth and jump into the deep end and you'll be fine.'
Now you're telling me the same thing and it's damn scary...
Good job, man. You are one hell of a communicator. Awesome presentation! 30 people saw you live and now your lecture has reached A MILLION PEOPLE!
That puts the period on your point.
Looking down the pipeline after escaping it is like getting punched in the face by your past self and feeling depressed that you cant punch him back
the best way to punch your past douchey self is to just be better every day, my brother. lfgoooo
but you can against all the parallel versions of yourself! idk about pipelines but my channel can be a fun rabbit hole when you're bored.
Word, as a teen in '14 who didn't really understand anything about politics I was watching these atheist videos too before they went anti-feminist (& then worse) & I'm so so glad I had the wherewithall (since I grew up with friends of different races & in predominantly female friend groups) to twig when something sounded suspiciously racist or sexist - as couched in dogwhistles as these channels were - & just unsubscribe. I feel so bad for all the folks who were maybe younger than I was, like Milo, who just didn't have any exposure, or were too young to have life experience to pull from.
At least you're out
I was probably pretty close to falling down the anti-intellectual pipeline via atheist videos too, in retrospect. As soon as they started using "SJW" as essentially a slur, I started to notice something was wrong.
guy who answered that first question must have felt really proud i would never forget it if a teacher spoke to me like that
Milo's response to that was great, he knew he made his day just then lol. This is how you push people more towards your field
@@anecro and then you trap them there....FOreVER11!!! That is how everyone gets into niche fields of science.
@@zadinaland...?
@@mayurisama3003 I do not think he ment it in a bad way
@@enklapeter6181 yeah you're right, I thought that too, unfortunately I completely lost track where the comment was and left it there :(
Unfortunately (times two) I've heard this thing about trapping young people in small obscure field in a bad way, usually by grifters or their acolytes who push for abandoning formal education, so my spider senses went off the board automatically.
We have a great science communicator here in Germany, Dr. May Thi Nguyen-Kim she is a chemist and started out on youtube. She now has her own TV show talking about various topics. One sentence from one of her books deeply resonated with me, and it fits this lecture very well. She talks about how we need a common ground of facts that everyone accepts is true to enable discussions about progress and solutions. Misinformation erodes that common ground, which makes it super dangerous.
Edit: spelling
!! I've said the same that we are lacking a common ground of facts or common narrative! Thank you for sharing about her books.
you also have Sabine Hossenfelder there!
@@Zal1810 Eh, Sabine is okay, but she’s said some very questionable and alarming things in the past. Like how she said studying certain things is “useless”.
A yes. The covid Nazi.
Scammers and grifters rely on eroding this common ground to peddle their scam. That's why pseudoscience overlaps with scam products and get rich schemes.
The part where you mentioned your edgy / anti-feminist phase resonated with me so much. I similarly had a cringe era where I watched a lot of anti-feminist videos as well as radical conspiracies when I was about 14-15.
I didn't really have anyone in my own life to challenge these beliefs, since unfortunately most of my toxically male friends would've just agreed with me. But an important thing I learned was to do some critical thinking, especially towards these videos on the internet that claim to BE critical thinking, and using common sense has kinda made look at the facts and to drive myself away from these dangerous ideologies (such as the ones you've mentioned) which come with these.
But ig nowadays I'm almost glad I had that phase and got out of it, because it feels like I have a much better understanding as a more pro-feminism and not as much of a conspiracy person now because I've lived by the other end of those arguments before.
Fabulous presentation btw Milo ❤. I can't even tell you how important your work and influence is for the internet and the world. Thank you 🙌
You sound way too domesticated, like "Uhhm, gonna make sure that my political views pass the public consensus filter". I'm sorry, but how, in a post-Epstein world, does one not believe in any form of "conspiracy theory".
Also, you claim to be a critical thinker, yet you believe in the unscientific idea that there are no differences between men and women.
I covered the Bosnian Pyramids earlier today, had no idea you'd mention it and didn't know you were gonna premiere today. Great minds think alike they say😁
Awesome lecture, I'll be watching the rest tomorrow as I need sleep now😭
Just found your channel through this comment! Subbed and can't wait to binge your content! Keep up the good fight against ignorance and selfishness and ego! Gwan girl
Same here.
My two favorites in one video, @HistoryWithKayliegh glad to see you’re feeling better watching your video next 😊
Omg u were in the video! I just found your channel from this comment and Milos lecture, going to watch your vids tommorow
Ooo I wanna to see your video. Going over there now!
Hi Milo. I am a 75 yrvold former teacher. I loved your presentation. You are so totally on track. We have provincial exams in Alberta and for decades the teachers had to pore through the exams and see where our students did not score well. For the 42vyears I taught , the critical thinking scores continued to drop. I see that lack in our society. Your challenge to those students is what is needed to help stem this process and begin to reverse it. Thank you. I teared up listening to you
As a fellow Albertan, thanks for being a teacher in this province! Definitely some hard times past, present, and future for our educators here.
how many boosters you got ? your opinion is irrelevant.
@@drucshlook how kind of you.
@@Brenda-on7hy I absolutely couldn't care less. you got the Pfizer, your opinion, on any matter, is irrelevant.
Interesting observation. It got me thinking-critical thinking suffers from religiosity as well, so maybe as one influence fades, it gets replaced by another for easy answers served up ready-made that stops people from thinking.
"If I was only telling this to 40 people, frankly, it wouldn't matter that much" - is a really powerful take. Incredible presentation. Glad to be part of the nearly half a million people who have now watched this online.
~700,000 now, came down to find this comment. 2024-04-29
Thought exactly the same
@@cf3714 800,000 man! 12-05-2024 :P (Also who the heck says the year first)
@@unicorn_tamer It's a neat trick I learned programing. That way you can sort alphabetically, and it automatically puts everything in order of date.
@@cf3714 Oh- that's actually a neat idea. And now that I think about it... I do have some files with the date on their name that were always sorted weird... That is, until now!
You actually opened my eyes lol
When I was a preteen around 2015-16, I was bullied severely in school and turned to “cringe compilations” as a kind of schadenfreude source; I figured it would help me a little to know there were people who were bigger “losers” than I was. I was never educated by anyone about media literacy or rabbit holes, so I had no way of realizing that this content was leading me right down the alt-right pipeline and was full of dogwhistles. First it was just making fun of bad art or questionable behaviors in public… and then it was making fun of feminists, people of color, and the LGBT+ community with blatant misinformation about their “delusions” and “agendas”. I’m thankful I got out of the pipeline when I did, but the experience left me with a ton of baggage and internalized queerphobia I’m currently in therapy to resolve.
All I’m saying is the world needs more people like you, and I wish someone like you was around when I needed it. Keep it up.
PROUD OF YOU, keep it up and rooting for you to find that place you feel okay again
👏🏿
That's literally the backstory 99% of the people claiming to be part of some sort of far-right pipeline, it's always some manifestation of internalized, homo-/trans-/queerphobia.
You spouted on the LGBT+ community and delusions, and now you became a trans-men by getting off that pipeline?
A zoom out and one would see a transfer of pipeline. The amount of damaging, mind wrecking. scientific lies on tiktok by LGBTQ+ community has done as much internal damages to youth than the hateful conservative take on queer people.
Wish you the best for your therapy.
Maybe the world also needs people such as you - tell and share your experiences and help others to escape their rabbit holes as well!
When I was in college and still young and dumb, a professor teaching about how to interpret character motivation in theatre taught me one of the most impactful things that I still apply to my daily life: when you are listening to someone speaking about anything- car salesman, facebook mom, or even your religious leader- you have to ask yourself what motivates them to tell you that? Everyone has motives for everything they do from money to genuine care about your well being, but you have to look at them and from their perspective, what do they have to gain by telling you what they are telling you. This blew my mind because suddenly everyone's motives make way more sense if a person is trying to peddle a product or actually does care about what they are telling you. Anytime I question someone's motives, I have a clearer understanding as to what they are really trying to get from me and if I want to actually receive it or not.
This comment is underrated.
Wow! Thanks for the invite. Great advice.
Not me, my motivation is scatterbrained autism
That is incredible insight.
@@nonyanae2ah yes, team "I just think this is neat"
That old fireplace setup is GORGEOUS
Came here to syñay just that. I would use it as a background in every video.
Film here more often, please!
I completely agree. What a stunning room.
I just wanna sit there on a cool night having a mulled cider with Milo and talking about the latest archeology news!
Can anyone make out the inscription on the mantle?
Coming from a guy who dropped out, this was everything I loved about school. Listening to passionate people talk about what they love. Keep yappin Milo
LMilo love, love, love your videos. I’m a boomer and just retired after 31 years as an elementary school teacher.i didn’t discover you until after my retirement in June or I would have been showing clips of your videos daily! I viewed it as my job to teach my 2nd and 3rd grade students how to learn and how to acquire knowledge,and the importance of skepticism in academics.One thing my kids adored was when we talked extensively about programs about ancient aliens and the ubiquitous phrase,”Ancients experts say YES!” after every piece of fake evidence.We talked about how there’s no actual thing as an ancient alien expert. There’s no degree in it, there are no classes, and in fact anyone can say they are an ancient alien expert, including Bob at 7/11. So all year randomly my students or I would randomly announce in self importance voices, things like, “Are the burgers in the cafeteria good 23:57 today? ANCIENT ALIEN EXPERTS SAY YES!” We all got such a kick out of it and I hope it’s the first step in these brilliant kids spreading the gospel of skepticism and a demand for real evidence in the future. Kids are sooooo amazingly smart! We need to focus on bomb proofing their psyche against the craziness these people spread.If we do, we will slowly see a change, I’ve got a lot of faith in Gen Z and Alpha.
Milo, your production schedule is entirely in your head. You don't need to apologise for getting it "perfect" before release; the quality speaks for itself and is well worth the wait.
Last year I watched 2 men's fashion videos, and within an hour it turned from men's fashion, to general advice for men, to andrew tate, and then outright fascists who said women are destroying westen civilization. It was shocking how fast RUclips lined up all that nonsense from men's fashion videos. I bring this up in support for Milo's claim about how these rabbit holes start from an innocent place before devolving into the most crazy shit.
I accidentally gave in to the sensationalism of some of the body camera/auditor/crime/dash cam type videos, and very quickly my shorts feed was all auditors, and shortly after that I started getting alt-right type stuff, and people just being offensive to be “funny.” I had to hit “not interested” on about 50+ videos in a row before the algorithm served me something that I actually subscribe to.
That was the last time I really binged shorts, too
Yeah I think the algorithm can be pretty fucking evil at times.
Its also not just the algorithm but also how youtube keeps alot of really far right content online simply because its profitable until its big enough to hit news again and can harm youtubes image
There's been a lot of accusations that the "algorithm" is either intentionally or unintentionally designed to do this
as a woman it ruins my day when i get that content shoved into my lap because it’s a reminder that we can’t trust any man because we don’t know his internet history. they’re all consuming this content and then also watching the most violent abusive p*rn imaginable.
A really close friend of mine is very gullible and abit of an airhead, he started falling down the rabbit hole of suedo sciences about 1, almost 2 years ago, right around the time, I discovered this youtube channel.
The things he started to believe in left him absolutely terrified and filled with anxiety anytime anything hit the news, the poor guy started to spiral.
Thankfully, during one call, i mentioned this channel alongside acouple others, so we started to watch and it, over the period of several months, got him out. He doesnt believe that there's aliens thatll probe him in his sleep or mountain rock snake species that'll come back to life.
The way you go about debunking everything makes it easy to absorb, but laugh at in way where you dont feel demeaned or stupid if you believed it, although you do feel silly and embarrassed. Total props to you for all that you've done and all the steps you've come Milo, thank you for what you do!
Good job helping your friend. The thing with pipelines and radicalization- its easier when you're alone. The best way to break those habits is to be supportive and help correct things in real time without being insulting or demeaning. It helps Milo has this channel, but you're the one who brought your friend. Thanks for being a good person
Hol up...mountain rock snake species...?
@cap5575 there's a cave in Thailand(?) That looks like a snake, but it's just a rock formation. However, a lot of conspiracy folks see that and say "idk it looks like a massive snake to me so it probably was one"
Things he believed terrified you? Try religion, culture, tradition, can you get your head out your arse to see for a second every individual things differently and that we could all be wrong, the fact people nowadays feel the need to impose ideas like this to save them from themselves is ridiculous. These are the sorts of dicussions we would have about terrorist radicalisation (going on to kill people). The fact you are so worried that he might be wrong is just so out of perspective, like who cares, we all believe stupid shit get on with it
That's the thing that really sucks. A lot of people fall down this pipeline because they're looking for answers to something, and not having those answers makes them feel lost, and what they end up getting is answers that make them feel even more lost and everything they did have a handle on before is now also up in the air. Dale Gribble is the only happy conspiracy theorist.
This video hit home in a way. As an introverted and neurodivergent woman who is a rising 12th grader, I feel like I and many others have a unique relationship with the pseudoscience pipeline and general internet culture. Since picking up on social queues and sarcasm is more difficult, I often find myself having to pause and think about the implications or have to watch something a few more times in order to fully understand the point or content of the media. I am passionate about my love for science but have a hard time discussing it, whether that be because of ASD or the sort of "stop being a smartass" mentality.
I fear for fellow neurodivergent people and those who are transitioning into adulthood. With how mind-bogglingly huge the internet has become, its impossible to completely avoid current news, controversies, and the overall feeling that the world we are transitioning into is a hostile place. While I know everything constantly changes, I think this era is particularly rough; combining these creates a sort of hopelessness and "this is how it is" mentality. I truly don't mean any harm when I say that this feeling seems to dull the ability to really think. It makes us more susceptible to not just the pseudoscience pipeline, but the entire sewer system of harm.
I love your videos because they are educational, entertaining, and easy to access all wrapped up into a package of knowledge. As someone who plans to go to college and university, I 100% agree that education should not come at a price.
Not to mention that the alt right pipeline that pseudoscience leads to LOVES to indoctrinate minorities. Especially neurodivergent people, as I have realized it seems almost tailored to people stuck outside of society and unable to contribute much change.
Milo, I thought you’d like to know something. I recently became a substitute teacher at a high school in rural western NY, near Rochester. In a social studies class I was covering last week, there was a 15 year old kid who absolutely adores your channel. He does his hair like you and everything and showed me all his drawings of sites like stonehenge and gobekli tepe.
Personally, I never went into archaeology, though I wanted to. I’m already married to music. But I’ve been visiting this kid and his family to tutor him in anthro and hopefully get him into the anthro/archaeology program at SUNY Geneseo. And it’s all thanks to you dude.
Won’t lie, I got a little teary eyed reading this. It’s unspeakably cool of you to be doing that for him. I wish you both luck
I love this! The scientific pipeline!
That is so so so so cute 🥹
Very cool, but it sounds like you deserve the lion's share of the credit, not Milo.
Good luck to you and the kid, mate...
This seems like a natural step for Milo, educating and telling stories to us and live students at the same time.
If this is something of a "lecture" then i am very happy for him.
He is fulfilling what he set out to do after that last episode of Ancient Apocalpyse.
Milo, congratulations on the success of your endeavors. I'm 69 years old, I have had an amateur interest in archaeology, anthropology, sociology, and all the other sciences. I'm also a lover of philosophy and comparative religions. And the thing that I find most distressing is how easily people can start with science and facts then drag themselves and the rudimentary facts they have gathered down the rabbit hole of pseudoscience and pseudo-archaeology. In trying to suss the whys and wherefores of this phenomena, what I have discovered is that there's always an agenda attached to this process. One that is attempting to defeat a perceived or real power structure rather than being about revealing the truth. They say thier intent is to reveal the truth, the hidden truth, but it's really about radicalism and bringing down "the man" as we used to say in the 60s and 70s. In other words, power structures and those in control, that is, until you become one of those in the elite and suddenly you go from being radical liberal and progressive to radical conservative and hate monger. As I lived through those eras and watched people who had been on the forefront of radical change become radicalized, egocentric conservatives and hate mongers, I wondered what happened. How could they flip like that, how could they do a complete complete 180 about face. What I noticed was that the most zealot of those who led the charge against the elite, those in power at the time, were often themselves egotistical, self-centered individuals who made whatever cause they were supporting actually all about themselves. I also observed how, as they rallied for freedom of speech, and other proclaimed freedoms they felt they were being deprived of, that when pushed hard enough they devolved into petty tyrants who ranted against those they disagreed with. The terrible thing was that they saw no problem with such behavior, no hypocrisy. For people like this, the "I want to believe" becomes "I desperately need to believe." It was an interesting lesson in human nature, much of what you have discussed in your lecture. So again bravo and congratulations, I love your work.❤
Possibly the longest RUclips comment ever👍🇺🇸
Very well put. I appreciated every word.
@@timnor4803 Oh no, this is my average length 🤣😜❤️
@@diverightin9243 Thank you, much appreciated. Especially since I was pretty tired when I wrote it, lol.
@@LiluBob good on ya mate. No malice intended 👍😎
I lost a good friend down this pipeline a year ago. Thank you for helping me see how he got drawn in. I don't know if he'll ever make his way back out, but it helps.
I'm 61, and one of those people that Milo referenced...never formally educated in history or archaeology, but I've spent my life educating myself because both fields fascinate me.
Milo is the person that the History Channel needs to turn their channel back into an actual history channel, and not a pseudoscience, pseudoarchaeology, pseudohistory channel. History and archaeology are fascinating, and deserve to be presented to the public in a responsible way. We need to bring younger people to history and archaeology, and I think that (in the world of the internet), the only way to do that is to present them in a dynamic way that will get young people excited about these subjects. Milo is definitely the person to do that. I think that, as a history and archaeology educator, he is a precious resource.
You have to admit - Mountain Monsters was a great show
I'm 50 and grew up with Cosmos (and also In Search Of, unfortunately. Bad Spock! Bad!) and watching this I couldn't help thinking Milo has the potential to be the next Carl Sagan, but with a potentially much, much larger audience.
@@jesseadamson1077 I may have seen an episode or two. Completely by accident, of course. 😆
@@matthollywood8060 He's approachable and is exactly the kind of educator that would appeal to a younger audience, and get them interested in those subjects. He should write a book introducing archaeology to children, or talk to classrooms of younger kids...that's where our future archaeologists and historians are.
archeology is a literal pseudoscience, no other branch has been responsible for as many hoaxes. nothing but grave robbers and evidence defilers. disgusting, the lot of them.
As a scientific illustrator I feel super inspired to continue my work! As silly as it sounds, pictures do really help people understand larger scientific concepts!
Whoa, spotted in the wild!!! Hi! (internship)
@@elisebutler5077 woaaah!!! 🫵🏻 hello!!
Agreed, I love reading but i tend to steer a ay of science books because of info dumps. So when i found a book on gravity and other physics which was almost entirely pictures i read it
Pictures are very helpful in my area of Geography. Thanks mate.
Yeah, I'm sure even math specifically could be really well articulated with engaging pictures that accentuate what it is being taught
Anyone else just realize that he doesn't need to edit his videos quite so much? You are amazing at this Milo. Thank you.
I think it's just him wanting his words to be the way he wants them, there's a number of times where he mixes up some words, or gets stuck stuttering for a second, and when he's recording a video to edit, he can work sound of that out and not have to worry about people nitpicking that he accidentally said "open them with welcome arms" or something
@femthingevelyn I agree 100%. It's just that editing is less necessary than I was led to believe based on his videos.
@@for_fox_aches It depends on type of video. A lecture like this requires minimal editing because it's essentially already made video. A debunking will need to splice parts of content he debunks with narration, some done on camera some off screen, plus adding jokes and segways all while dodging RUclips's copyright sensors.
How good would a 4 hour video be though
I swear to God it's impossible to be understood in youtube comments sometimes.
This video made me realize I may have misinterpreted the "I want to believe" poster my entire life. I always interpreted it as an "I don't believe, but I want to believe", not a "I want to believe, therefore I believe".
That interpretation is correct. People like Milo LOVE to lecture on pseudoscence and cults, while claiming that capitalistic institutions and mainstream religions are somehow "different" and should be respected.
I stopped taking this lecture seriously the moment he unironically started using phrases like "that's a dangerous way of thinking". This entire thing is "These groups don't use critical thinking and only tell you shouldn't trust experts. But in reality, you should because they have experience (oh and I'll forget to mention how much corrupt capitalism most of these people are dependent on)." He rightfully shows you shouldn't trust these fringe groups but then WRONGLY pushes the "you should trust whatever sources a fuckton of money has gone into being funded" narrative. He claims you should reject hate cults (which you should) but then tries to make sure you still respect the mainstream religions (ya know, the most powerful of those cults).
@@JamesR624 I think you've missed the point of him saying that very hard.
@@JamesR624 this is wrong comment. And wrong video. And wrong channel. And wrong century.
@@JamesR624uhh well maybe because what he’s talking about is stuff that is demonstrably false with sources and evidence??
Considering I live in New Zealand and would have had zero opportunity to ever see you talking about the thing you love if it hadn't been for social media; I would say you hit the nail on the head with the distribution ideas.
Science is so fundamentally awesome, it's so interesting the way different fields come together to explain our world. It's a shame that that knowledge is paywalled for most people
Hello fellow kiwi!
Hey, fellow NZers!
Heyo fellas
@@battadia hello!
Another Milo fan from Christchurch
This man can do a presentation ten times better than anyone in my school
UM. UH...
I am a PhD student in Physics. I want to say, Milo, I think your mission is a worthy one. It is incredible the power we have of reaching literally everybody with the technology we have.
One thing you hadn’t addressed is the barriers of entry into learning, gaining expertise. There is a lot of practice and work and pain involved. That, I think, is one of the big barriers for getting people into science. Learning is painful!
Unfortunately, I feel there is a significant amount of people that HAVE gone through the pain and trials of learning and gaining expertise and obtaining PhD’s and the like, that they have to justify their experience to themselves by making sure every subsequent student goes through the same pain they did, regardless of whether it is necessary.
Learning will never NOT be challenging or difficult. It ought to be. But academia is incredibly broken, and SO much of it looks shockingly like nothing more than hazing nowadays….
The worst of it is we're up against things like tiktok that enforce a quick dopamine release loop. How is a process that is long, arduous and painful supposed to compete with nonsense that give people the same biofeedback as if they had completed something of the former category?
The simple fact is that there are two very similar ideas that are actually completely distinct, and they need to be separated for education as a whole to be better. You actually got really close to pointing it out
Academia being intrinsically difficult, and having to earn the status of completion
Vs the average person/the public being AWARE OF and OKAY WITH the difficulty of academia
What all these PhD holders and professors who act this way don’t understand is that every single person in the world should be given access to the chance to get to where they are, but the difficulty should be inherent and respected, not money and rules and hoops
ive seen quite a few guest speaker presentations in my college career, and this is by far the best one ive ever seen, and i wasn’t even there. its clear you’ve been comfortable teaching for a while now, and actually love what you’re doing. insanely good job man
I honestly wish i could personally thank youtubers like Milo, Forrest Valkai, NileRed, Robert Sapolski (via Stanford's free lectures), PBS Eons, and so many more for putting real science in various fields online for people to watch. At 35 years old, i still remember the pre internest day where we had so little resources to learn about the world around us. Even TV wasn't much help because for every show that taught us real science in a fun, exciting way there were 10 shows that were sensational barely factual shows that aired just to get views rather than to teach. I witnessed the rise of ancient aliens, the mockmentaries, and the reality tv style animal shows and it made me sad to lose the ability to actually learn something rather than just being entertained. But i feel like there has been a real effort to bring education to the general public by content creators who have a real passion for their craft and I truly appreciate it. Not only is it entertaining but I feel like Ive reignited my curiosity about life, nature, and science in a way that I don't think i could have otherwise. Keep doing you Milo. That butterfly effect will have you making whirlwinds if you keep going. Best of luck to you and all the youtubers/tictokers like you❤
UCTV's Carta is good too! (Put out by University of California Television) They have a lot of videos about early humans, the way different languages work, etc., that are fascinating.
Don't forget Professor Dave!
Thank you for posting this, and I fully agree! I think a good metric for reliability is to pay attention to who genuinely seems to be interested in educating people, versus those who simply want to wow folks with shocking and exciting "facts".
Some of those old-school educators are still at it, too. I especially enjoy Bill Nye the Science Guy's channel.
Sapolsky is an amateur.
Hello! I'm an arch in the PNW, and I recently took part in a conference where one of the most interesting panels I attended was about approaches to public archaeology. Most attempts at public archaeology (helping regular people understand and engage with archaeology) are mostly in-person community events that often fail to gain attention or completely miss the mark of attracting an intended audience. All this to say, I really appreciate your work and the way you have adapted the thesis of public archaeology to meet people where they're at by engaging them on social media.
Someone here talked about how this reached them all the way in Spain, and I would like to add to that. I'm Icelandic. I live in Iceland, a nation of around 400 thousand people. The reach you are gaining with your channel is amazing to see and I look forward to seeing more people in Iceland watching you.
Imagine that... The internet has videos on it... And more countries than the US have internet! 😱🤯
@@dogtooth911 The video is about the importance of science communication and having a wide reach of audience. Don't be so obtuse.
I'm so glad I found my way to your channel. You're a great communicator.
I want to thank the show Horrible Histories for getting me and other people my age who only had free television interested in actual history .
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Holy shit I was raised on horrible histories, it genuinely gave me my love for history.
I used to read those books all the time as a kid. those were the best
Horrible Histories and Time Team!
I have a 23 year old niece and we used to love watching HH together when she was little. Now I have an 8 year old daughter, so I get to enjoy watching it all over again with her. It's an awesome show, it's so much fun that kids don't even realise they're learning some really important historical facts. Lol. ❤
Hi Milo, as a geologist/mining engineer who has done a lot of research into historic metallurgy as a personal passion and been hesitant to actually share that knowledge because I don't actually have a history degree, your push to share information really hit home. Thank you for taking that leap and encouraging us to dispel pseudoscience as well. :)
I know barely anything about metallurgy. But I would 100% watch any video by somebody who is passionate about the history of it. That sounds fascinating and I've literally never thought about it till you put it down in words. Lol
Hope you end up sharing!
I would LOVE to hear more about historical metallurgy!
I am generally interested in ancient crafts and I want to know more about how the people processed metals a couple thousand years ago. Or a couple hundred.
If you do not pretend to know everything perfectly but still are as diligent as possible with your research, that should be fine. Just tell people what your sources are.
In the historical costuming community there are a lot of people who also do not have history degrees but they all do thorough research and it's awesome what they come up with.
Btw. are you familiar with the channel "Fraser Builds"? He makes videos about alchemy and I like how he is doing stuff. If you feel hesitant about making your own video, you could probably reach out to him or other channels that do living history content and ask if they were interested in a cooperation. Maybe that could ease you into it.
Geo/mining/metallurgy history old be awesome, get to making vids! Science is amazing, share your passion!
Fireplace quote reads "Old Wood to burn, Old books to read, Old friends to trust." which is a shortened version of this quote:
"As old wood is best to burn; old horses to ride; old books to read; old wine to drink; so are old friends most trusty to use." by Leonard Wright
Thanks! I was wondering what it said.
That is an absolutely gorgeous fireplace with all the cupboards, shelves and settees.. You can see how that would have been the center of family social life during a long, cold winter.😎👍
Hey, this is the first time i see this channel. And you are totally correct. Moreover, its not just the power of the internet that we have by our side, but the globalization of the english language makes the message understandable for people all around the world that maybe you didnt even imagine they are watching you from there. Im from Spain, this is the first time i watch a video of yours and now i know.
I personally feel scared about the idea of being so expossed to that much people on the internet, but at the same time you are right about how now is very accesible for people to impart the knowledge (specially scientific knowledge).
And i find it very inspiring and hopeful to frame this period in time as a renaissance in science and knowledge despite all the missinformation being fed outhere. So thanks!
You should watch his short form content it's so funny
Im a student at virginia tech and i cant believe i missed this. I was out of town and didnt know this was happening. Im glad it was uploaded so that im able to watch it!
Same! I recently graduated and still live in the area with friends who are still enrolled. Can’t believe this was so close to home!!
As a 16yo, I am _SO_ glad that I found you, Milo, on the internet and other people who promote independent research and responsibility rather than these pipelines
It's so nice to hear about someone else who had been dragged down the far right pipeline and managed to claw his way back out. I used to watch guys like Sargon of Akkad, and now he's gone completely off the rails, while I've gone back to the side of rationality. It's always good to help deradicalize people from those dangerous ideologies while still feeding their interests in healthy ways.
Omg yes, same. I am a very passionate leftist but I am also very critical of certain aspects of leftism and that caused me to go through a phase where I went almost right-wing. Was an avid watcher of Blaire White and Shoe0nHead...
Not sure how Sargon went off the rails, I still watch him from time to time.
It's just important to not get completely stuck in that sphere.
I heard that at some point he (silently) pivoted back to the more pure science and debunk content, seemingly right around the jan 6 insurrection. From this, I've seen it speculated that seeing those events unfold might have been a moment of clarity and reflection for him.
Then again, I can't be bothered to go check his channel right now.
@@p_serdiuk you missed the entire point of the video
@@jamesnomos8472Sargon like Shoe on Head realised that courting the right is far more lucrative, I think there's only Dusty Smith left who didn't jump right for views and money.
Hi. I'm like you just a bit older . When I left high school I wanted to do archaeology but was encouraged to do environmental science. I'm in Oz . After a gov change and the incoming conservative gov gutted the conservation budget I was without a job so I went back and did an anthropology degree . Pressure from family and friends encouraging me to go I to high school teaching . After a few years I had an accident and became disabled. People like you give me hope for the future.
I really appreciate milo. His past set him up incredibly well to do this job today.
I see what you did, there.
I missed out on so much real science since I was homeschooled by young earth creationists. I appreciate the work you do here.
Me too!! Partially homeschooled though, not fully. Parents were total conspiracy theorists. I sometimes wonder what it’s like to be raised normally, how much easier life would be. It’s awesome what Milo does.
You can miss out on real science if you get your education at a woke university too.
@@jaykilborn2508 i know you don't watch Milo from this comment alone, are you really that devoid of hobbies you keep stalking comment sections in videos you won't watch just to curse The Woke
@dee_is_tired You are very perceptive. I have never heard of this man. Before I devote an hour of my life, watching a video, I read the comments first to see if it is worth my time. As for my comment, I was alerting these two individuals that they will be disappointed if they think they will find real science at a woke university.
@@jaykilborn2508 This video isn't even an hour long, though I wouldn't expect someone who unironically uses the word “woke” to be able to correctly read a number.
at the time of watching this is 1 hour scince upload
10,620 views thats 10,000 more people who have heard this talk this message that i think everyone with this mindset of wanting to learn and understand the world around us ,which is basically everyone to some degree, needs to hear compared to the 20 you said where in that room you have at the current moment multiplised the ammount of people who heard this message by x500
We have this worlds where we cant seem to agree on stuff yet the largest most powerful tool to openly discuss this opinions and work together to create the best conclusions on these topics is just being uses as an echo chamber instead of a way to discuss stuff. In part i believe thats the Algorithim but mostly we are the ones who are feeding it the information it is using and we need to learn from that learn to have open discussion challange opinions but in a way that leads to discussion not argument :D
Milo this talk was amazing keep up the absolutly awesome work at making the world a better place and i hope we can all follow in yours and so many others footsteps
Wow that is a very kind thing to say. Thank you very much for your words. This is a task for all of us. The tools are at our fingertips and we know more now than ever. It’s a beautiful time to be alive
@@miniminuteman773 So what would you say to a person who used the library to graduate with better grades than most people attending public school? If I could do it in 2003... like, really, the paywall is in your minds. Or if it does exist, it doesn't exist in the way of the information but rather how a person is "qualified" and given a piece of paper to say as much. I've been a handy-man, a machine operator and a few other things but, nowadays, I have to pay for those certifications that tell the world I know what I know. It's not legal, for example, for my town to come together and sign me a contractors permit. I HAVE to go through the pay channels. It did not used to be this way. Instead of spending tens of thousands of dollars on heavy equipment training, you could rise from a laborer being trained on site in ANY company. Your experience was the certification. And if inspectors are honest people, contractors aren't better in the way of work done.
Revolt against the algorithm ✊🔱
I teach history at a community college, and your videos really help me counter the pseudo archaeology and pseudo history some of my students have been influenced by.
Here is pseudoarcheology, on the engineer side there is new "perpetum mobile" and "free energy" machine every week... You all are doing "god's work". As an engineer, thank you all from the bottom of my heart❤
The Sun is a giant perpetual energy machine and the government doesn't want you to know it, I make 400 Kw/h from home without doing any work.
I feel like we are getting more fake gadgets than ever - not just people harnessing fears of energy transition from fossil fuels, but like... ive seen what are essentially just small electrical impulse machine marrketed as cure all, as good a chiro practor, or even anti cancer, and they are for sale on amazon, tik tok ect....
there is no easter bunny, there is no tooth fairy... and there is no such thing as "free energy".
even in music theory there's all the A=432hz that Adam Neely has debunked like 6 times, pseudo-intellectuals are fuckin everywhere
The hardest part of making a perpetual motion machine is finding where to hide the battery :)
Tehe I am very excited to see Milo talk about very random things. Very very entertaining!
Same
As someone who got to see the first goldenage of science communication through social media with the likes of scishow, crashcourse, CGP Grey, etc, it was disheartening to see many creators struggle with and fall off with the algorithm over the years. It has brought me great joy to see the likes of you and others making a comeback, at a time when clear and entertaining education is needed the most in an ever more interconnected world. From the bottom of my heart, thank you.
God I loved CrashCourse. I think I actually still have a playlist of all the interesting-topics videos I hadnt had a chance to watch that's like, 10 years old. I should go watch that.
Milo, I've only recently found your channel and I can say it's been a while since I last binged channel content so consistently like I have yours in recent weeks.
It's been so awesome learning about archeology from your channel.
I'm an undergraduate student of Journalism and I've always loved reading about history. You managed to not only to keep me entertained and learning; but you have been so inspiring! From a journalistic perspective, I have also seen the problems that misinformation causes. I think in one of the first videos I watched of this channel, you say that misinformation stems from lack of education, and it kind of made things click in my head. Recently, our department of journalism was consolidated, so now there is more of a focus on science and environmental reporting.
Amongst many other creators, you have been a huge influence in the best possible way.
These videos remind me of my dad, who passed away last year. He too had some fun ideas with his coworker to bring science to a wider community. He had a passion for learning and a curiosity about the world that was truly inspiring.
I really want to make something of my degree and science communication seems not only awesome, but truly filling a need role. I want to help and raise people up like you do; it's truly inspiring.
And you are absolutely correct, Einstein with a RUclips channel would be sick.
My hats off to you, Miniminuteman 🎉
The reason (one of many) why Milo and creators/educators like him are so successful is because not only are they making knowledge accessible but they are presenting it in a way where we don’t feel like morons for being naive about the topic. Science is extremely intimidating and it doesn’t take much to scare away those who felt curiosity tapping on their shoulder. Milo and the others take away this air of judgment and snobbery that the sciences seem to carry. Milo doesn’t “dumb it down” for us, he just knows how to rewrite the language so we can understand it. That’s a very hard skill and that’s what makes these inspirational teachers so amazing. (Along with their love and passion for the subject.)
Milo is also an amazing orator; a skill very few people have. It’s hard to believe how young he is sometimes because of it!
Anywho, I digress! I think the only explanation missing from his great lecture about pseudoscience is the lack of critical thinking skills. I took an undergraduate class literally called: “Critical Thinking: Weirds Beliefs and Why We Have Them”. One of the best classes I ever took and I think it should be mandatory. It’s a key element in pseudosciences, cults, superstitions,etc. And it’s actually a bit terrifying how many people lack critical thinking (I’m not exempt from this in many ways , no one is lol). It certainly helped me understand the world a bit more.
Science is only intimidating if you get tossed into the deep end of a subject right out the gate and you get overwhelmed with terminology you have no context or understanding of.
Science and math are the types of subjects where you HAVE to build up understanding through fundamentals before getting to the fun stuff.
@@MisterZimbabwe and that’s exactly why it’s intimidating. I grew up in New Mexico, USA. We rank between 48th and 49th in education out of 50 states. I failed at math because I never got the building blocks nor the foundation and it resorted in me having to cheat to not fail. In high school one of the chemistry teachers was caught cooking meth (this was before Breaking Bad ; I’m certain they based the show on her) and so you know who took her place? An algebra teacher. I “learned” chemistry from an algebra teacher who gave out work packets; we made ice cream for a lab. How can students be inspired when what we are given is barely the bare minimum. The other science teachers had as much personality as a rock and the one teacher who was amazing made the subject near impossible for normies to pass. There was no medium. All or nothing and I know this is happening is the majority of schools around the USA.
@@fire_lily895 You speak the truth. I got bounced from a mediocre school in 1-6th to a rich kid school due to a quirk in how district lines were drawn and so much shit just shut me down because they didn't cover it at the crappy school.
I will say, thank god for Khan Academy (Well, thank Khan and everyone else who helps maintain that website)
Watching milo made me learn that every archeological evidence has a bit of history that may tell, in which through various research of science may uncover a truth that people can learn from. I find that more interesting honestly than any ancient aliens, illuminati or any other cringe conspiracy concepts.
Critical thinking is a mandatory class in the California state university system. As an ex cult member I am quite passionate about it! I went back to school and was lucky enough to teach it.
it's actually interesting that you mentioned how lectures don't have enough reach, because one thing I love about the The Royal Institution is the fact that their lectures are released for free on youtube, it was the first time I had the opportunity to watch lectures from prominent scientists. imagine if every university released their lectures for free ?
Gresham college is good for this too.
There are a lot of academic lectures on youtube, but they tend to be a bit obscure because they're not algorithm friendly and buried in small institutional channel. So you really have to go look for them (or teach the algorithm that you want them recommended)
A ton of universities actually do that but as said you need to actively search for them since they absolutely do not make the algorithm happy. Try to search for very specific terms instead of broad terms and follow it with “university course” so instead of “quantum mechanics” search “introduction to quantum physics, ultraviolet catastrophe, university course” or something like that. Of course the issue here is that in order to find these lectures you need to be so familiar with a field that you'd probably recognize misinformation quickly.
Also the thing about university lectures vs public lectures like the ones given at The Royal Institution is that they're aimed at students and aren't trying to be accessible. A lecture from The Royal Instituion about electromagnetism probably won't even show Maxwell's equations but an actual university course about electromagnetism would expect you to already understand most of classical mechanics and that means knowing calculus and linear algebra at the very least.
The value of your comments around the issues of traditional sci-com are immeasurable! Great presentation / video for anyone to watch to not only understand the importance of factual discussion in science, but also any online information. Great idea Milo.
Milo you are wonderful! I am approaching 69 yrs oldand a retired librarian. I used to teach "how to search for quality information on the internet (back to the days of the Boolian Search)". How to determind a research article from popular magazines, & how to search a library online catalog successsfully. I also worked off the cuff with fairly current subjects. I also talk fast.
Well spoken!
Had a gaming buddy that went down the radicalization path and unfortunately we couldn't pull him out of it. It's really scary how it starts with believing something small (and seemingly harmless) and ends up with distrust of anyone that doesn't share those views.
Can't wait for more debunking!
I had a friend who started watching biblical pipeline bullshih (anunaki, etc), led to far right horseshih, got quietly radicalized and well he ended up committing a homicide /suicide one night. it took like ten years but it ended two lives and ruined several more the night it all went down
It is logical to not trust people who don't share your views.
Sadly I think most of us have had a friend like that over the last decade. For me it was a friend who started off on the odd - but you would think fairly harmless - conspiracy theory that the Moon is actually a gigantic ancient alien spaceship. Weird, but OK, I've heard a lot worse, maybe he's just being quirky. But fast forward a few years, he follows the rabbit-hole pipeline downwards, and now he's ranting actual full-on neo-Nazi bullshit and loses all his friends, and his job....
@@firstlast2636 that's paranoid. Nobody shares your ENTIRE set of beliefs, if you mistrust people because they're, say, a different denomination, ideology, or plainly don't like Metal, you're going to end up really sad and isolated.
I had an old best friend for a while, were roommates and part of a larger friend group. One year he had to pay like $150 in taxes or something. Then he got new roommates that did nothing but bitch about Obama in 2012. Then 2016 he was a self avowed libertarian that wanted trump in. Today, don't talk to him and can't talk to him unless it was just about video games or how things are going, and I don't really want to know anything beyond that. Once you've got the earwigs they tell you you are special a d more special than other people, and no one else deserves anything because you perceived that you had something taken from you, it's all downhill from there into the grievance gutter. Then you're cheering on the demise of democracy, cheering on Russia, cheering on Israel, cheering on mass deportations, and mocking people that just want decency and equality.
as someone who is currently in college studying to be an archaeologist, i adore this channel and the information it holds. my first archaeology class i took in university had a whole week dedicated to psuedoarchaeology, and we looked specifically at the bosnian pyramids, but there are so many other psuedo topics and schemes that i had no idea about preceding this channel. i wish i could hear a lecture by you at some point milo, because part of the reason im so excited to go into this field is to find ways to make archaeology more accessible for people to be able to find the right information.
They can find information without you.
I have to say, I found your channel when you posted the Graham Hancock debunking video and I was so excited to find someone who is willing to debunk something Netflix posted. The fact that huge production companies can just post whatever they want is absolutely crazy and I am so grateful that you called out the bullshit and I hope other people do. I never watched ancient apocalypse, I just watched your series on it. But my dad did and I was able to say "no no no, we can't believe anything on Netflix anymore". You're awesome man. Additionally, I wish there were more teachers who are as good at communicating as you are. I'm not super interested in archaeology but you could get me interested in anything just because of how good you are at speaking and how exciting about science
Debunking means it’s been implied as factually and universally true. Which has never ever been said. You fragile ego intellects reak of desperation
I am from Spain. This is reaching to basically the other side of the world. Here a LOT of people believe in pseudoscience, specially old people, I have seen it in older colleages and my own family, they get fed with tons of misinformation, annunaki, ancient aliens, master race, etc, and I myself did wonder about how and why and believed those things too. Then you came along and I began to use more critical thinking, and I let myself actually be impressed by the intelligence humanity has. About our perseverance and creativity. I am very spiritual, a pagan to be exact, but that doesnt make me take away merit for our acomplishments through the millenia.
What a wonder to be a human.
I will do my part to let people know, I will even act as a translator to your words because they NEED to be heard.
Thank you for everything!
It's a shame RUclips removed Community Captions, there was a time viewers could translate videos and add subtitles in their language for RUclipsr to approve.
@@KasumiRINAthe pretext was that they couldn't revoew everything and channel owners didn't speak so many languages.
In the end a big channel doing lives can have community moderators and smaller channels can use auto translate, but the fact is youtube has vastly limited ways in which people can support and improve the reach of their preferred creators by removing community subtitles =/
@@KasumiRINA it is a shame indeed... I would love to translate his vids to spanish so it reaches to more people who dont speak english! But alas, youtube and their weird systems...
In Spain, about as many children are born as are "cancelled". This is intellectualism!
Go for it!
I'm a biologist and also studied science communication. My education (and my sense of normal/professionalism) headed towards teaching complicated things to fairly intelligent teenagers. Hardly any attention to grown-ups, hardly any attention to kids that will work in a factory, or have a cognitive impairment. I was confused and got sidetracked, I ended up becoming a social worker and I had TONS of fun explaining difficult concepts about society, laws, health care etc to people with cognitive impairments, people with serious delusions etc. 20 years on, it's getting time to do something else, flex another part of my brain again. I agree so much with you about how amazing the opportunities are these days. Social media are ever evolving and while they have horrible aspects, they also have a fascinating access across social classes, culture, ethnicity etc. The business model of social media is based on engagement, so their engineering is built to favour content that attracts most engagement. Leave it to billions of users and creators to experiment and find out what exactly engages. I'm too old to do tiktok dances whilst screaming biology factoids and that probably wouldn't work anyway. But as science communicators, we do need to embrace all the crazy shit on social media and find our angle in there. My young kids and I have recently discovered the SpongeBob Jellyfish Dance Challenge. We are sort of not officially practicing the moves and.... It hurts, man! It hurts... I have this idea that a medical science or biology communicator could do something with that. Do a tiktok dance and explain which muscle starts aching after a certain move and why. For now, I still fall over, so I gladly donate this idea to a more flexible colleague.
"Do tiktok dances whilst screaming biology factoids" might be ineffective, but would probably be goddamned hilarious!
Make a video, have your children do the moves and you add the explanations! :)
@@johannageisel5390 no I think my kids will insist I do the moves and they will laugh very loudly!
So this isn't the type of content I usually watch but oh my goodness did I love sitting on my couch and listening to you talk about these important topics. Thank you Milo! You are one of the various reasons why I'm going back to school (I'm almost 40!) to get my degree in environmental science. I'd like to do archeology but I don't know if I realistically could make a career of it. Just thank you Milo so much!! Keep up the amazing work!❤❤
I am impressed. Go for it and you may surprise yourself. You never know what the future holds. Good luck in your endeavors.
Thank you for doing this, and trust me, it matters a whole lot
I was a young teen who fell into the original gamergate pipeline- good ol’ “SJW destroyed” videos.
It destroyed a large part of my life growing up. I denied my sexuality for years, lived in constant insecurity, and lost lifelong friends over the horrible things I’ve said- some of them I could never apologize to anymore.
Nobody should lose their humanity to these conspiracies, and people who think they’re harmless are woefully ignorant.
You may not convince them now, but you’re a piece of the puzzle. You’re another voice who just might pull them out.
I just want to say thank you. I'm 62 I love your content and have been watching you for over a year. Milo you have given me back hope and showed me that there is a a voice of reason in this crazy social media age . You are an amazing young man and you have a great future. Much respect my man👍👍👍
As a physicist with interests in both science outreach/communication and history, it’s clear that interdisciplinary learning is the way forward! Thanks for making such great content!!
Wait wtf Milo was in Virginia Tech, that's where I go and I'm literally watching this video in my dorm at VT. How had I not realized this? I wish you had said you were gonna be doing this, I absolutely would've wanted to come see it in person
Easy fix: have him come back for another talk, and this time they put the word out for students. Hope it happens for you!
Thank you Milo and team!
I fell down the Alex Jones pipeline, and I am absolutely annoyed by that version of myself. Didn't have friends to help me out as I was stuck in a small religious community as a kid.
I fell down the shapiro pipeline at 12 💀
I bought all of graham hancocks books...still keep them tucked away on the bookshelf as a reminder 😅
It is absolutely to all of your credit, that were able to find your way out of those things. That is incredibly difficult, to do on your own.
Glad you made it out. The Alex Jones and small religious community overlap is probably pretty substantial. It's not a coincidence. Once someone has one reason to doubt something about government or institutional knowledge and epistemology, the rest can go very quickly. Alex Jones is a pan-conspiracy theorist peddler. He either believes or presents that he believes in almost every conspiracy theory out there. Once you fall in his lap because you believe one thing he said, 2 years later you believe everything he says. I watched his career bud from scratch from the outside. He was on public cable access TV back in the late 90s, then local radio into the 2000s, then started his website and RUclips from there. He went from being fringe fringe borderline entertainer to bear mainstream, way way too many people got caught up in his bs, but whets worse is he was sort of the gateway drug for things that came later loke the covid anti vaxx and Qanon stuff. I think, I hope, that subculture peaked and d is started to get into the rearview. But hard to say. At least we can somewhat say it for Alex.
@@Kenzalina_ ^This.
Hey, I just want you to know that my professor at Hamilton College played this video for us! It was super exciting to see it was you, so keep up the great work!
Milo sees the internet the way I do, and it's incredibly reassuring to know others feel the same way about how unfathomably powerful the internet is a tool for learning, both true and false information
Unfortunately it has allowed for village idiots to collaborate, and unfortunately that’s profitable for social media companies
This is why when people tell me things they see on the internet I always ask what the source was and where their source got their source. Just because it’s on the internet doesn’t mean it’s true.
A teacher in my school got rlly into ancient apocalypse so I recommended you to her and I think your videos saved her from going down the rabbit hole
I have 3/4 of a bachelors in astrophysics and 10 years of corporate training and adult learning theory and RAGING ADHD in my late 30s. I have mulled over the idea of making a RUclips channel on and off for years, but I don’t really know what to talk about.
But you know what? Maybe I should just make a channel where I talk about whatever cool thing I’m fascinated by that week and give my poor wife a break from my infodumping. This was really inspiring and it’s so cool to see your success and building acclaim borne from the simple need to inform.
You’re one of my heroes, Milo. I hope you know how much of an impact you have on people.
Do it! What have you got to lose, right? If you get 2 views that's 2 more people than would otherwise.
Make it! I would love to see infodumps about anything and everything. If it's from someone who cares about a topic, anything can be interesting.
Do It, I am in the same boat. Post channel here🎉
Hopefully its only on topics you have college credentials for or else this kid will say you're dangerous to science lmao
Please do. I would watch the hell out of that
Not just for younger generations, I love the things I am learning at 51. I have found more than a few channels that sounded legit at first, but it looks like, never passes the sniff test with me.
Hell yeah.
Never really thought about how a large portion of the population hold the most power tool in our pocket. And it is only powerful because there are so many who have it. Wonderful lecture! Wish you could speak at my college some day
I’m glad you recorded this. Love your videos.
I am 15 and I am very grateful to know about your channel and I am very grateful of you teaching people about the pipeline so that others like me wouldn't go into. You might have if not certainly saved me from becoming a bad person. I am really grateful to find the educational side of RUclips and learn useful information. Thank you greatly
Let's discuss intellectually. Milo is not here with any evidence. The first thing you should do is read philosophy if you actually want to understand the truth.
@B.L.U.E_B.L.U.E why? Definition of philosophy is pro-knowledge. Without a basis of knowledge you can't interpret it.
@B.L.U.E_B.L.U.E well, do you want to discuss this or not? What determines what is truth and what is false? Does truth exist?
@B.L.U.E_B.L.U.E how do you know that truth exists and that fact and logic determine that? Sounds like philosophy to me
@@crabb9966we need lots of people to learn lots of different things. No one can specialize in everything. Then discussion is important to put the pieces together.
Love that you're doing a full-on lecture, congrats!
Milo is going to inspiring entire generations to go into this field. It's been incredible watching his growth
as someone that’s done academic research presentations, i just gotta say i love the template and format of your slides lol
23pt. + and no unnecessary text or pics
YESSS
this guy grifts to the low hanging fruit to debunk things with deeper actual truth.
such an easy manipulation tactic
@@scaledsilver what and who are you talking about. Can you, for a change, be specific about something?
@@Dreagostiniit's spam
This is absolutely spot on, Milo! I deal with flat earthers mostly, but this is exactly what people should know about the pseudoscience peddlers. Well done! 👏
Ugh, those people. Had a bloke think that you don't need to account for observer height when finding how far you should be able to see on a globe(such as being on top of a mountain) if you lie down. Those people are completely nuts.
Folding Ideas has a really good video on that pipeline
Most flat earthers I see also believe in conspiracy theories related to healthcare such as "vaxx causes autizm" and "COVID was just an elite plot".
Most flat earthers I see also believe in dangerous conspiracy theories regarding healthcare for some reason.
I'd say about 70 or so percent of flat earthers don't believe the bullshit they're peddling and are just looking for attention. That still leaves the 30% that actually believe that shit. (source on the numbers: fresh from my ass)
I really like your point about the fact that there's really no place for people interested in archaeology to go. I used to love watching natural history and archaeology documentaries when I was growing up. I would binge History and Discovery in my early 20s, but then there those channels made this gradual shift to the pseudo sciences.
Which is totally crazy to me, because these were places with fairly solid information. Or, at least, the only place I could get 24 hours of the stuff I was interested in. I could put up with 2% of ancient aliens if 98% of the channel is legit. Meanwhile, the channel producers are looking at their numbers and realizing that a) slightly more people are watching that 2%, and b) it's way easier to produce a TV show when they don't have to verify a single fucking thing that's being presented.
Also, well done on that presentation. I think I only saw a single cut in the whole thing, which was a nice. You are an engaging presenter regardless of the platform.
No but comparing pseudoscience/history/archeology to cults is legitimately one of the best ways to explain how it happens, why it happens, to who it happens, why you’re not immune either, and why it really matters that it’s happening. Also, I think it can snap some people at the start of the pipeline back to reality to hear just how close to a circle is the venn diagram of “stuff alternate history truthers say”, “stuff that was dogma in a cult that killed people”, and “stuff neo nazis would agree with”.
What group of people have, historically for the last 75 years or so) ridiculed people who have UFO experiences (I'm NOT saying UFOs are real or not)? Are their actions those of scientists? What group of politically minded people ridicule and lie such that people thought Obamacare would be the worst social policy ever? Why is there a flurry of publishing in a given academic area, once the top dog of that academic area dies? (google the peer-reviewed paper) Hint: collective narcissism.
Every youtube creator is a cult leader. Everyone of them. Even this guy.
@@rainertentacle7573 i dont think you understand what a cult leader is
@@tired1923 Read the comments.
As a content consumer, can I also just say that finding reliable, factual, and easily consumable sources of real information-- like yourself, Milo-- is invaluable. I don't know enough to always know when I'm being lied to, but I trust that you, Lindsay, and others will usually steer me down the right path!
Oh McAmber, I have bad news… he lied to you
Yeah it's been about double the total time of the lecture, and it's reached nearly a thousand times the people that were in that room. The scientific community has got to start using social media to do science education, it can't afford to not take this opportunity.
On a personal level, I know that good, accurate paleontology content on RUclips has reignited my childhood, obsessive, autistic love of dinosaurs, and I will be forever grateful that the RUclips platform enabled this.
ooo recommend paleo channels please?
Your Dinosaurs Are Wrong - Channel examining dinosaur toys/model reconstructions, listing correct and incorrect aspects of each toy
Moth Light Media - a good mix of mesozoic paleontology and discussion of how modern animals evolved. Very calming.
Ben G Thomas - discussion of new paleontology news as well as general paleontology topics. Has a good review of Walking With Dinosaurs.
Paleo Analysis - good answering of general questions, but also does review of specific ecosystems and species, ongoing video series covering history of life
I'll add more later
@@celestinemorningstar4851Thanks for the recommendations! Love Ben G Thomas's content, and now I have some others to check out.
I'd also like to recommend Stefan Milo, whose channel covers human evolutionary history and anthropology. What I like most about him is how he portrays our ancestors as normal people and helps the viewer empathize with them, even though they lived very different lives to us.
Making this a new comment for the notification:
Henry the Paleo Guy - longer content about specific genera, similar to Moth Light Media. Also covers more modern animals on occasion.
EDGE Media - longer content, covers most big paleo news and new papers. Channel also covers cryptids, but it's avoidable. Generally rather digestible, but can be a bit... RUclipsy.
Any of the PBS stations - utterly primo paleontology content. The kind of videos you can put on for younger family members. Scicom at it's most professionally polished.
Extinct Zoo - I kinda hesitate to recommend him, as his content can get into sensationalist territory while still presenting itself as educstional. However he does do a good job of discussing lesser known topics and species. Proceed with caution.
I'll make another comment if I can think of any other prominent channels.
@@celestinemorningstar4851i heard edge plagiarized some stuff but take that with a grain of salt. but yeah, ydaw on top!!
Thank you to Grace and Virginia Tech for allowing you to put this up on youtube- as you say, it’s vastly more impactful the more people can see a presentation like this.
I think this is one of the more imminent issues of our time. Here watching for the second time while I also watch friends and family shout that the government controls the weather and is directing hurricanes against their own citizens. I've been blocked and even threatened for trying to have a conversation about it; as someone trained in emergency response it is infuriating knowing these conspiracy theories are impeding actual rescue efforts and undoubtedly costing lives but on a personal level it hurts to know the people who I respect and think more highly of are so willfully ignorant of scientific methodology.
What you do with your platform is so incredibly important, thank you and keep up the great work!
If you're ever looking for a connection in the Ozarks, feel free to reach out. We've got some good stuff.
Professor Milo might be my all time favourite Milo, he’s so charismatic and natural in front of a classroom, he belongs up there
Pulled up RUclips thinking, "Man, I could really kick back with the 20 - 30 minute video talking about something I'm interested in. Not only made in depth with thought and passion behind it, but something that I can think back on and take with me into tomorrow."
Fuckin love my sub page
At my university’s undergrad research conference (basically what it is) there were many posters talking about different misinformation on tiktok.
When they put that much effort into saying something is misinformation it means there is something they don’t want you know. Just kidding I’m not stupid.
@@dudestep 🤣 i was about to say. I didnt look at them all, and cant remember much bc i liked the posters that didnt talk about tiktak. But 2 i remember were talking about fluoride (bc ofc people still think its bad) and this weird snail mucus or whatever that people have been saying is so good for your face, your skin. And the poster was like, yeah 95% of people saying these things literally just want you to buy something. Gotta love capitalism
@@dudestep Had us in the first half lmao
@@dudestep I actually downvoted your comment before I read that last sentence, you gave me a fucking heart attack.
Golly…education being locked behind a paywall has been one of my biggest qualms with this country and the world as a whole. You’re so eloquent Milo. All of this was said so well
You are an excellent presenter and communicator. You absolutely deserve the success that comes your way, Milo