That's what I hate most about these nonsense conspiracies, they look at really interesting features of the world we live in, then come up with the dumbest possible story for why things look that way.
The most frustrating thing about “The Grand Canyon is a Lichtenberg Figure” hypothesis, is that if he used just a _little bit_ more brain power, he’d find the reason for this similarity. Electricity traveling through wood & water eroding rock have a feature in common: they follow the path of least resistance. That’s what the path of least resistance tends to look like.
When I was a kid I found all kinds of swords in the woods. They looked like sticks but they had to have been swords from a forgotten civilization that got cast in bark.
@@Siahnette that reminded me of Pia Hagmars Flisan books because the mc pretended her bike was a horse back in the day as a kid Edit: i named my cat Flisan after reading those books
Also, can we take a sec to talk about why canyons look similar to the electric current pattern? It's literally just cause electricity takes the path of least resistance, just the same as water in a river. Like there is a reason both have "current"
@Jacob Pilavin That's what he said. But rivers, like electricity, follow the path of least resistance. As that river runs through the valley, it flows where the rock cuts the easiest. The rest is up to weather erosion. Electricity does the same. As do the veins in a tree's leaves and the blood vessels in your body.
Silly Alphatalkz, if he had ever read the acclaimed scientific journal known as the Pokedex, he would know that Ground is in fact Immune to Lightning, and therefore could not form these Lichtenberg Figures
Hi Milo! Long time listener, first time caller. As an university professor in geology, I am impressed by your description of sedimentary rocks and structures. Good job! I look forward to more of your videos in the future. PS Lichtenberg figures, lighting, erosion, dendritic crystal growth are all fractal patterns. This is why they have a superficially similar form. Their forms have nothing to do with their causes; they are a consequence of following the path of least resistance (see monte carlo simulations and random walk theory).
It's a BIT suspicious that I've seen bots write comments under YT videos, and now YOU also write comments under YT videos... And THEY claim to have no knowledge of this! How convenient...
"Talk to any engineer!" My father is an engineer, and when inquired about building on slopes, he stated simply: "We're engineers. We make it work, it's not that hard. As long as the foundation is sound and you know the local geography-- i mean, we've been doing this for a few thousand years, it's not a new science. And I mean, it's an efficient way to use space if you're building a city." Engineers dont give a shit if it's on a slope, they take that as a challenge to their intellectual might. Engineers are some of the most batshit crazy inventors out there, and you think a slight incline is going to stop them from making their dream home? Hilarious.
Ikr my house is literally built on a slope, they took some dirt from the surrounding area and piled it up next to the foundation so it wasn't too steep, and as you walk around to the back you'll see the ground is a couple feet lower than in the front, it's not that absurd lol
@@apyr34556 Not problems like "what is beauty", because that would then fall to your perview on the conundrums of philosophy. He solves practical problems. Like, "How to stop some big mean mother hubbard from tearing me a new structural suprerfluous new behind?". The answer is a gun, and if that don't work, use more gun.
@@kai_maceration My sister owns a farm, and their house is on a hill. The slope uncovers the basement level on one side, such that it's a whole second entrance. The original builders just constructed the house with the slope in mind. Also, it's on top of a big hill. Where was this hypothetical mudslide supposed to originate from?
As an Indian person, I can say conclusively, as a representative of my people, that we built those temple looking things in Mt. Zion. But we didn't properly seal the materials and so they melted. Also, we left no traces because we're environmentalists and cleaned up our trash, duh!
Being real, I find it funny that he conveniently ignored actual ancient structures - like the nearby beautiful Mesa Verde. Looking at actual structures though completely invalidates his argument, as they immediately reveal themselves to have human crafted features.
I don't yet have a conspiracy theorist bingo card, but I do have a terrible video essayist bingo card and this guy hit all the prerequisites. Soft, reasonable voice; inoffensive piano music; citation-less statements; baseless connections/inferences; visuals/references that debunk their own theories..... You get the idea. LOL. New subscriber and I'm binging before bed. 😁 👍
I love how painfully close he gets to a truth, usually “this looks like runoff” and then he immediately goes straight to “it must have been a mega lightning bolt/thermonuclear detonation.”
Because he is a grifter. He knows the answer to that question its why he knows how to manipulate idiots to what he claims is the reasion. This guy's setup with such a small fan base is becsuse he wants peoppe to buy his merchandise. And apparently they do brcsuse he has all this stuff.
I know this video is ancient at this point, but I just wanted to touch on the point of why people need to be called out on their conspiracy theories, and also say that I appreciate that you're doing it, Milo. Someone has to, really _everyone_ has to, but your academic background and relatable way of speaking makes you a really great candidate for being the Loud One. There are a lot of people out there who have their "pet" conspiracy theories, (Kubrick and the moon landing, for example) and yes, they look mostly harmless, but the problem with leaving any of these things standing is that they open doors to more insidious thoughts. Once you're just "asking questions", you can "ask questions" about some really dangerous topics. "Asking questions" about vaccination leads to vaccine hesitancy, which leads to vaccine refusal, which leads to outbreaks of diseases almost no one has seen in 100 years in the west, and even leads to pets living shorter lives because people don't want their dogs to get autism. There are people alive _right now_ who knew people, usually children, who died of these very preventable diseases, and anti-vaxxers just somehow completely ignore that those people exist somehow; they say they want proof, but they don't trust scientists, which means they should trust anecdotes, right? The mental gymnastics and the hubris involved are just astounding. All that to say, thanks for doing what you do man, keep it up! It's important work.
Your comments on anti-vaxxers sure didn't age well. Perhaps you should try applying some critical thinking in your life rather than judge those who don't worship lab coats.
Honest to God it is exhausting to live amongst such ridiculous and stupid conspirators as the first commenter shows. And he then goes in to talk about "critical thinking." Just unbelievable!
Asking questions about vaccines *can* lead to the things you mentioned. But it's not a guarantee that it will. People who believe that sort of stuff already had a predisposition toward that sort of thought. There's no shame in trying to learn more about the world.
Fun, deadly drinking game: Watch that guys entire video but take a shot every time he says “looks like; as if, appear to be, etc.” Take two if he uses the word “legit”
Also it bothers me so much when conspiracy theorists don’t even TRY to pronounce the names of the places or people they’re talking about. It feels so disrespectful
More like “scientists can’t explain this in a way that my uneducated pea brain can understand because I have zero foundation on this topic I’m spouting off on”.
He forgot to mention all those "electrical patterns" on Mars. I guess the Egyptians had a "lightning melts my cities" problem no matter where their colonies were.
Lol, youtube got drunk again and recommended me this after the Filip Zieba videos. I am rather thankful taht it did though, because it is not bad and shows how much have you improved Milo.
I love how the heat was so immensely intense that it completely melted the entire "buildings" leaving no trace of their existence behind...but those "bridges" just...persevered.
That makes total sense. Bridges lead over rivers. Hot days heat the water and the bridge. The water steam goes up to the bridge and cools it down through thermodynamics. So the bridge gets watercooled by the river /s
I’m stunned that you didn’t mention how this cataclysmic heat storm that melted entire stone pyramids and buildings somehow didn’t melt the thin stone bridges connecting those very buildings together.
I've been thinking about this kinda thing a lot. Imagine this kinda thing mixed with the Agartha (or hollow earth) conspiracy theory. These people are crazy but god do they have good imaginations
As someone who loves to create stories, I am so constantly mad that conspiracy theorists ruin amazing potential stories. For one, a plot about the government using medicine to save people from deadly disease as a way to microchip/gain control of its citizens? It’s got so much cool potential, but it can never be made because it would just fuel the conspiracy flames
My man, not only are you the most entertaining person on tiktok. You are exactly what the world needs right now, dismantling insane conspiracy theories with cold hard facts. I cannot wait for your ancient aliens series. Absolutely love your content.
Thank you so much my friend! It’s dirty work, but someones gotta do it. Making sure stuff like this isn’t allowed to proliferate is part of the responsibility of any sane person. Please continue to keep that mindset and point out bullshit whenever you see it. You never know, you just might save someone from being exposed to it!
Every time a conspiracy theorist says "science can't explain" I roll my eyes so hard it is painful. There are many things science can't explain, this is not one of them.
And the biggest joke about that is that science cannot explain anything. That's not its job. Science is putting what we can observe about something into words, which are then measured against their capability to correctly predict other stuff. Most of what those nut jobs call science isn't science at all. It is observed facts.
As someone who grew up in the south west, and who revisits the best sites every year, it is exceedingly clear to me that Alpha Talkz has never actually seen any of these things in person. You can see arches in the process of formation, and you can watch canyons forming pretty much in real time. Geological formations do not exist in a time vacuum.
hell as a kid I used to check how this dirt hill near my house would change after it rained cause I thought it was so cool it looks like a small river going down the side how does this dude ignore basic shit you can see outside
In the forest next to where I grew up, there is a small but somewhat steep dirt road. As it's always repaired with sand, whenever it rains moderately, you can see the whole erosion process scaled down but at high speed. It's also a great place to look for seashells.
I'm from Miami. Everything down here was originally made from cocaine. That's why they had to dump a swamp on top of it, and a bunch of muck and what not, and we ship sand in to cover all of our beaches. Though I've heard the cocaine was still fairly easy to reach in the 70's and 80's, I was just a kid then. The government is secretly really happy that we're going to be underwater soon because they'll finally be able to stop buying sand to cover up all the coke.
I can also confirm, as an Ex-Californian who lived on the coast, just be careful, I heard the US Government is kidnapping those who give away their secre-
Those "rocks" were actually glass spheres which simply appear to be rocks, for... ummmm... reasons. 🙄 Personally, I think big spheres of ancient glass would have made excellent windows. The views through them must have been breathtaking.😂😂😂
I'm really feeling sorry for the man who made the melted building theory. He seems so desperate to understand the mysteries around him, but he fails at every step. It's like he is holding a book upside down and is willing to consider any and all options on what it could mean and how to interprete it, except the option of turning it around.
It's just wild watching him say that the entire earth must have been flooded with mud, because for him the unbelievable alternative is just that humans would choose to build settlements on sloped surfaces
He won’t even consider the idea of an Ancient Earth, because he’s been brainwashed his entire life to believe that YEC is essential to believing in God. I’m maybe 5-7 years younger than the original guy who made the theory, and I remember how intense the Creationist aspect of Evangelicals was back then. I was raised Catholic (who tend to believe in the scientific assessment of the Earth’s age & creation) and there was always this idea that people who believed in God and evolution at the same time were somehow lying about their faith. So this dude has probably been brought up believing that anyone who believes differently than him is not only wrong, but also a liar. Which means if he can’t explain his beliefs…he’s a liar too ETA: I do think it’s sad actually, the way Creationists do their thing is almost spiritual abuse. We (at Catholic school) were taught “God created evolution” and that the story of Genesis was a metaphor meant to explain the unexplainable to people who didn’t have the technology to even begin to understand it. I’m no longer a Catholic, and I’m highly critical of Catholicism and organized religion in general, but I did feel like this was a good way of make sense of the science vs spirituality issue that so many people get hung up on
Off topic: this is funny to me personally because I used to read my textbooks upside down when I was a kid sometimes. I don't know why. I guess I thought someone would find it impressive. Try it for yourself you'll likely find it's not difficult at all.
I honestly think these people just haven't spent enough time out in the natural world. Around the time you find your 10th heart shaped rock you start to understand that these things just happen.There are literally thousands of mountains and uncountable hills, it's hardly surprising a couple of them look a little bit like a pyramid from the right angle.
unfortunately there is money in spewing nonsense, I can say the sky is orange, and that the Big Government hides the truth with Vaccines and my video will be 100 million views and I will get rich immediately, I can even amass a group following that will send me money to spew more truth before I am assassinated by the secret cabal of aliens. There is too many people out there looking for nonsense because they can't fathom why their life sucks, it can't be that they are the reason, it must be Big Government, aliens, monsters, it must be those secrets that my life sucks, and they will pay to keep that illusion true. I won't do this because I will be knowingly destroying lives of people, and I can't handle that, but many online can and will, because they place themselves above everyone else and what if they kill themselves because of me, it doesn't bother them.
Also, I love how these theorists talk about things being "too symmetrical", oh it's too "too symmetrical to be natural". Bro go outside, nature is full of symmetry lol. Leaves, flowers, rocks ect. Most natural formations will be symmetrical or close to it. I mean look at snowflakes and ice crystal formations. Just a bit of wider and more in depth thinking and we wouldn't be here XD
You and I would start to get a clue after the 10th heard shaped rock. I am in a number of PNW rockhounding groups -- constant stream of people who proudly show off their fossil hearts and kidneys. Again and again. And will defend their claims to the death.
@@seanlarabee6300in my house alone, there is a spot in a rock that looks ridiculously similar to the shape of Albania, as well as a rock with a similar shape to France. Yet the dude doesn't seem to understand gravity
The cave/stalactite part cracks me up a bit because when I was around 14, I took a trip to Luray Caverns and the tour guides gave a whole speech on how stalactites work. It's a very pretty and very interesting place, and I honestly think it's cooler that it was made naturally than if it had been from some destroyed ancient civilization. (I highly recommend visiting there if you can!)
When I was in fifth or six grade we had a science fair. I did the “dripping water from bath tub faucet onto bar of soap” “experiment.” I thought it was a silly one but given how this guy doesn’t understand erosion, I’m thinking he should do that experiment.
Me, third grade science fair. Different colors and layers of jello in a large glass dish. Board reads "MOUNTAIN FORMATION" To demonstrate plate tectonics, I shoved my hand straight down and (slowly) pushed the jello to one side.
there's also that place in japan which has done it with **rock** for like a century with impressive erosive results. Not sarcasm, they put rock slabs below taps to see what would happen.
I feel like the worst problem in the theory is that apparently the "pyramid" in the grand canyon was melted in the same "mega lighting" that created the grand canyon... that it apparently was built in
That used to be flat ground. The mega lightning was so powerful it actually excavated the entire Grand Canyon and deposited the dirt in North Dakota, forming Mt Rushmore
When 'they' (in this case, conspiracy theorists) do things like comparing electrical damage to wood to the grand canyon, and deciding it must be the same cause, it's like saying: We have seen lines drawn by pencil, and when you look at a highway from above it's a line, therefore highways must have been formed by giant pencils.
@@smergthedargon8974 i have discovered that the pentagon has 5 points and you know what else has 5 points a pentagram therefore the pentagon is run by devils and the elections are rigged to give control to the next incarnation of satan at each election. Checkmate atheists.
7:30 friendly reminder fractal wood burning is highly dangerous and very easily could kill you, as the voltage is not regulated by your standard built-in off switch by your at home electricity (when detecting interference like a human body) since it’s passing through a makeshift toaster thing to get that high of a current into the wood. it’s neat but it’s dangerous just thought i should mention
Yes, it can kill, and has killed. Check out Anne Reardon's "How to Cook That". She debunks hacks and crafts. She did an excellent video on using microwave components to burn wood in these fractal patterns. She explains how and why it is so dangerous, and tells how people were killed doing this. (It was banned but is now back on)
@@TheSchultinator I'm not sure exactly how it works but, yes, it requires lots of water and high voltage electricity. People have died and people have been horribly disfigured.
Wow, melting and erosion look crazy similar. It’s almost like there is some kind of force that pulls things down to the earth when they’re loosened or detached from the main structure.
Maybe this could all be explained by some study involving the dynamics of fluidity. Call it fluid dynamics to explain how liquids, plasmas and gasses move in predictable patterns. Oh right. never mind.
By this man's logic, the blood vessels in our bodies were also formed by an electrical current because they display the same fractal pattern. Maybe that's why we have magnetic personalities :P
Exactly. Same with tree roots, funghi roots, rivers, crystals, nerves, galatic superclusters, cracks in a plastered wall. It is almost as if there is some underlying mechanism guiding all of those things.... like some collection of rules of how material things behave in the universe. Something that would describe movement and the distribution of matter... So mysterious. Can't be physics though, cause that is boring and hard to understand, so good thing we ruled that out from the start. It's fascinating to me how these people see everything as connected, but then miss the very obvious actual connections that we have discovered to exist.
On the Lichtenberg argument: It’s been observed that flow of any kind, such as people, marbles, or electrical current generally follows the same principles as flowing water. It would only make sense that the patterns formed by water searching for a place to pool and current searching for a place to ground would resemble each other.
Nature repeats itself, and this is the path of least resistance. Idk man. I'm always fascinated by things, so I learned about them, but I feel like conspiracy theorist decide to just assume stuff about things they find "interesting" instead of figuring out what is known and why it's known
i've found that conspiracy theories are actually really great for writing fiction. Imagine a planet covered in canyons and caves formed by an actual mega-death-laser striking it
The Underpowered Death Star theory. Or, as I like to call it, "the UDS theory"(trademark pending) is actually an example of the beauty industry deciding that planets could use a wrinkle remover. When coming up with the design and specifications of this project, somebody forgot to carry the one in a critical calculation, and the UDS was born. After a trial run created the Grand Canyon and the Marianas Trench, it was adjusted and subsequently used on Mars to horrific effect. The project was shuttered and later revived by the Imperial Order for their own planetary beautification programs. Edit.... On rereading this tattoo removal might be a better idea than wrinkles
@@M50A1 Exactly, taking the flat earth model and propping it up with magic and exploring how such a world would work is really interesting! Biblaridon has a video on such a universe, where the world is a flat plane and light comes from 5 magical "suns" spinning a distance above the surface. Obviously this results in only a vanishingly small portion of the infinite plane being habitable and the area immediately under the suns being rather sweltering.
I love this dude haha. He sees actual geological processes and just uses his own words like "melting" or "destroyed" which somehow makes it spooky and mysterious lol
"Partly because I'm a terrible person, and mostly because I was depressed" has got to be the most spot-on description of my life ever. Thanks for the insight, small time person.
I've got to give this guy credit for the sheer confidence he seems to have when he says something "looks like Atlantis..." Like has he seen Atlantis up close? What else is he hiding from us?
I’m- a little worried about that conspiracy theorist. It’s like he grew up in a bunker with his only exposure to the outside world being Ancient Aliens and the Bible. He doesn’t seem to understand ANY of the basic mechanics of the world around him to the point where I have trouble believing he even went to school. Can someone go check on him?
"If it looks like a thing, it must be that thing" what a philosophy to live by. I wonder, if that dude stands on one side of a lake & can't see the other side, would he say "it's a secret ocean!"
“A horse has 4 legs and a head, therefore a table is a horse. A chicken has 2 legs and wings, therefore a bat is a chicken. A man has a face and two hands, therefore a clock is a man.”
I also love the idea that it HAS to be the Egyptians despite having other cultures that indeed built layered pyramids in the Americas 🤡 at least blame it on the Mayans or something, man, to make it a bit less of a ridiculous claim
Really funny how he chose two cultures from the other side of the planet when a few hundred miles south was a culture that literally did build pyramids. Such an odd man
Snowflakes? They're just too crazy, too symmetrical. There's just GOT to be a big snowflake factory in the sky filled with alien snow people who design each one.
Re: The Grand Canyon, his logic totally breaks down. The canyon is supposed to be created by a mega lightning bolt, but a pyramid, that was built in the canyon, before it existed, was also melted by the same mega-bolt that created the canyon???
Don't you see, that just means the ground used to be flat there. No-one would build at the bottom of a canyon, so there must not have been a canyon. The building sank when the ground under it melted. That's also why it blends with the ground - they were melting at the same time and fused together.
When I was a student at university I had a professor who said he couldn't be bothered to refute any of the stuff that people like von Daniken said, because he figured if they ignored them, they would go away. Well, here we are, 36 years later, and we are stuck with a population that is taught to reject scientific reasoning, because it's elitist. I love your channel. Thanks for fighting against the demon haunted world.
Keep up the good work! For every quack out there we need people debunking them hard (and in a funny way). Also, you missed one point. The first "pyramid" he points out, at the bottom of a valley that was supposedly made by horizontal lighting (???) would imply that they made the building underground and then the lighting revealed it by creating the valley? Nice work, by the way, your videos cheer me up immensely (and are educational too!)
I've just realised something. If the "pyramid" in the grand canyon was made before the "global heating event", how would it be at the bottom of a canyon THAT WAS MADE IN THE SAME EVENT?!? But yeah, anyway love your videos mate, absolutely brilliant.
Exactly. You see this all the time with archaeological conspiracy theories. They spend so much time "just asking questions" that eventually those questions contradict each other. Ancient Aliens has probably proposed at least a dozen explanations for how aliens built the Moai but never flinch as they propose another. They all work this way. Ancient Aliens, Melted Buildings, Tartaria, Mud Flood, Atlantis and so on all just involve being confused in the general direction of a question and acting like that is an answer.
@@sealeo5772 That's the problem with conspiracy theories: there is nearly infinite ways to say "It COULD have happened like this," especially when you ignore more concrete evidence. The imagination is near limitless when you allow yourself to pick and choose things like most conspiracy theorists do.
Fun fact: The great pyramid of Giza *also* has fossils in it, because it was made of limestone blocks that had fossils in them. They're actually pretty easy to find if you visit it and wander around the base looking moderately closely at the building blocks.
Fascinating, very cool bit of knowledge. Doesn’t change the other details of the mountain that still made that one a mountain. (The stratigraphy is my fav example)
@@Abahrelgazalia ok i did confirm that there fossils in the pyramid, because saying 100% true makes it seem like you just up some wild BS. But yeah really interesting fact.
@@noskillrequired9532 Ah, sorry. '100% true' was meant to be a reply to Hairy_cube's comment about the other details of the mountain that made it clearly a mountain: "It's 100% true that the presence of ex situ fossils in the Great Pyramid does not change the fact that Gebel Dist is a mountain."
I’m laughing so hard at the “who builds on a slope” thing lmfao. In all the buildings I’ve ever lived, not a single one was built on flat ground. When there’s an economic/social incentive to build in a hilly area, it’s not that hard to make it happen.
To me, claiming that every natural Arch Formation is "proof of an ancient artificially built bridge that was reduced to its current state by some cataclysmic heat event" is the dumbest part. I say this because fun fact: The weakest part of a bridge is the arch itself. So, if there was some crazy-strong firestorm that destroyed those "buildings," *there would not be any surviving part to indicate anything such as a bridge.* Also, as stated in the debunking, melted stone is lava. And if you were to look up "cooled lava flow," you'll find that none of the pictures look like wax from a melted candle; if anything, a lot of the pics look more like a tangled pile of yarn. Last thing I want to say is that using natural lightning to create a Lichtenburg figure, especially of such a large scale, is impossible. Simply due to the fact that lightning is A. Impossible to predict where it will strike and B. at most going to last only a few seconds.
I was thinking the same thing when he showed the Oxford building bridge! Like that looks like the LEAST stable part of that building, that looks like it'd be the first thing to go!
i'm no scientist, but i assume if such a cataclysmic lightning could strike, the energy generated would be so ridiculous and instantaneous the shit in its path would just explode out of thermal shock rather than melt like an ice cream at the beach
@@andrealotito4412 I didn't even think of that, but it makes so much sense! Even in the video he showed, it's a slow creep through the wood from a long, continuous electrical current. Yet in the part with the "Melted glass" when he quotes the comment, it specifies that glass forms balls when cooled quickly. Which doesnt make sense if it was a long continuous current like it would take. I dont know if any of this made sense to anyone but me, lmao!
I used to LOVE conspiracy theories. So much fun to look at pseudo-evidence and ask “what if”. That’s been ruined once they actually started having real life consequences because people are dumb.
It's funny, 10+ years ago i was considered a "conspiracy theorist" (I've never really believed most conspiracy theories, i just find them entertaining/interesting) yet now I'm routinely called a skeptic even though my beliefs haven't really changed at all.
Im a geologist/ soil science grad student and I couldn't finish this due to the uncomfortable amounts of second hand embarrassment I got from the theorist. You are much stronger than I ever will be.
I'm happy to have found your first video, and I state, that you were off to a flying start. I know you've made many more interesting and exciting videos in the meantime (2024 now). You have kept your enthusiasm and spirit! Thank you for your work. 🤗
i always love the part where they say that "scientists can't explain" the thing... while ignoring the well-documented scientific explanation for the thing. anyway, happy to stumble upon your channel. subbed and looking forward to more.
Most of the time, scientists can't explain because... What they show and say is complete BS. No, you aren't going to find an explanation on how the world got covered in electric burns and how whole mountains melted. Because... it's just not what happened.
"Scientist can't explain" = the subject I don't understand is too complex for any individual with knowledge on the subject to explain in a simple enough way for me to understand
I just noticed something: at 20:56, the so-called "rock" to your right *looks like* a fresh loaf of sourdough bread. Therefore, I conclude that it is, in fact, a fossilized bread loaf, since that's all you need to prove a theory apparently.
Sometimes when cats sleep they look like a bread loaf..... And Egyptians venerated cats🤔 they even mummified them! 🤯 everything is just Egyptian bread cats and mega lightning! 🙃
Well, I just realised that trees look just like Lichtenberg figures, so clearly they must have been made by an electrical current from inside the earth's core.
Guys I'm really scared, I see this pyramid-looking thing that people are calling a "mountain" whatever that is. I think they've been brainwashed by the government who are also aliens.
@@Ezullof For example, something happens in an area. All that i left are half melted buildings, there re no bodies to be found. The weirdest part is that outside of the area no one saw an explosion or anything that could hint at what had happened. Something is clear though, someone needs to figure it out, otherwise it might happen again. The mystery can be anything, an eldritch god, an ancient magic. Maybe the buildings aren't melted at all, maybe the entire place was sucked into a different plane of existence and the "melted" things just didn't get teleported all the way through.
There's no way rocks would tend to settle in a stable pattern, and people in ancient times figured arranging bricks in the same way would prevent them from toppling over.
Favorite conspiracy theorists phrases: "It appears to be" "It looks like"/"it doesn't look like" "Could it be possible that..." "What could cause (thing that has concrete explanation that caused it" "Coincidence 🤔" (thing that is definitely explained) "this is unexplained"
Not only are conspiracy theorists wrong, but I feel like they are making some kind of logical fallacy each time they judge something by its appearance. But I don't know what that logical fallacy is.
It is amazing how the bridges of ancient advanced megalithic cities built in Arizona outlasted the much more solid buildings that the bridges connected. It's amazing how their stone bridges didn't melt like how their stone buildings melted! Truly amazing!
Omg. I was just going through all of my RUclips Smart Downloads that I didn't know were on my phone and came across this bad boy. I remember when this was released, and it was an instant subscribe for me. I had not, and still have not ever been on TikTok, so this was my very first exposure to Milo, and I've been a follower and fan ever since. It's nice to watch a RUclipsr's first YT video that I really enjoyed, and realize that they havent changed at all, and they are still doing the exact same things as they were in the beginning, and in all of the best possible ways. I'm so glad I found Milo's channel then, and I'm proud to still be a fan and viewer today, and I really look forward to see what him and his team create in the future.
Man, from a purely "sci-fi" standpoint, this is actually a pretty cool idea. It would be much better if it had been used as part of a sci-fi type of story/world, rather than presented as a "true story" like they're doing here. I guess that's true for most conspiracy theories, lol.
Historically, good fiction usually originates conspiracy theories. The original is Atlantis, which, funnily enough, Plato tells us was made up just a few lines before he starts the interesting part everyone reads.
@@dashiellgillingham4579 I'm not sure if it's exactly in the same realm, but it reminds me of how the Radio reading of the novel War of the Worlds was mistaken for being a real news broadcast. It's interesting how simply missing that slight bit of context can make all the difference.
@@dashiellgillingham4579 no actually he explicitly did not. Aristotle a student of plato believed it was just a story but plato never remotely states its a story. Actually plato gets REALLY REALLY descriptive about random details which if it was truly a politics basedl hypothetical then...yeah. Not saying atlantis was real exactly but the amount of blatant dismissal of greek historians is kinda absurd at this point. I mean troy, the minotaurs maze, the kraken. So many clearly fake ancient greek things thrown aside just to be found true lol
@@mondaysinsanity8193 Not to shoot down what you're saying because I actually do agree with the message, but I'm fairly certain the kraken was never even remotely considered a greek thing until they made Clash of the Titans.
As someone who knows an engineer: They literally don't give a shit. Nothing can stop them from doing their work. Trust me, I've given him multiple challenging terrains to make a sketch of the house he would build there and he did it perfectly almost every time. I mean hell, here in Serbia there's literally a house on a rock in the middle of a river. I'm not joking just look up "Kućica na Drini" (or kucica na Drini it doesn't matter) Moral of the story: engineers are unstoppable
As someone from southern Utah, who grew up and still lives just outside of Zion National Park, the way this conspiracy theorist pronounces Zion, as "Zee-on" (rhymes with freon), is causing me physical pain. If you want to sound like a tourist, you say "Zy-on (rhymes with ion), and if you want to sound like a local, you say "Zy-in" (rhymes with lyin'). I have never heard it called "Zeeon" before today and I never want to hear it again.
you have to love how backwards they look at things. It's always "these look so much like this man made structure! it must be a conspiracy!" and they... don't take the two seconds to think "oh it looks this way because humans like to create things based on beauty we've seen elsewhere (especially in nature), such as these mountains that look similar".
not to mention that something with a wide base and gets progressively smaller as it gets higher, like a mountain, or a pyramid is a good way to stack things up. It's the kind of thing most people learn at about 3 years old, but apparently this guy has yet to grasp it.
also im just curious what went thru his mind when looking at clouds, "IS- IS THAT A FUCKING POODLE IN THE SKY????? AND IT JUST CHANGED INTO A FERRARRI GUYS LOOK AT THIS"
Alright, we all know that he's making this up, but can you imagine how cool this would be from a world-building perspective? A planet that got strike by massive lightning bolts across the entire world, left enormous Lichtenberg figures everywhere, and superheated it so much that the stone buildings melted. How cool is that for a premise. Honestly these conspirators should just be fiction writes with what goes on in their heads.
Go read the Cosmere by Brandon Sanderson the storm light archive has something adjacent to this. On Roshar there’s a massive storm that rotates the planet every couple days to a week and it deposits cream which is this mineral deposit that hardens into rock. One city was broken at one point and is now split up amongst a giant network of canyons and the cream has covered all the buildings so they look like natural rock formations.
It's why I have a love/hate relationship with conspiracies. They hit hard at the creative part of my brain, imaging the "what if" of these scenarios. The hate of course comes from the fact that they're undermining well understood science in the process by not admitting that they're selling works of fiction.
The music in that dude's video is doing A LOT of heavy lifting too. You put that mystical piano behind pretty much anything and it starts to sound mysterious.
It might have inspired him to pursue this career. It's been shown that names help influence career paths. Example: people with, "law," in their names, like Lawrence, tend to pursue jobs in the legal field.
Another glassblower here.. a pretty experienced one if I can say so myself. Yes, glass does tend to ball up when molten.. the. Problem, it has to be ELEVATED AND ROTATED! If you pour a crucible of molten glass into the ground, you know what you’re gonna get? A fucking puddle. Also, large balls of glass would have likely exploded long ago without a proper annealing cycle.. air cooling is gonna result in much stress. Yes, a sphere is inherently strong, but stress is unavoidable without an even cooling. It’s possible that it could have been insulated by dirt or sand or something, but it’s not gonna give perfect results. Stressy pieces are liable to randomly explode months or years after being made thanks to small environmental changes. I’ve seen it myself. Many times. A piece can be set on a shelf and randomly burst into pieces for no obvious reasons.
Can you imagine giving somebody you're trying to woo a pretty glass trinket to put on their mantle, then a couple weeks later they accuse you of trying to kill them because it randomly exploded XD
Thank you for confirming my suspicions, I don't work with glass so I wasn't gonna say anything in case glass has some weird property that keeps it from following basic laws of physics but I knew something was off. Molten glass is just an extremely viscous liquid, it's gonna solidify into basically whatever shape it was already in because that's how liquids work. Unless they're arguing that the air cooled so rapidly after the "cataclysmic event" that the glass cooled into marbles while still flying through the air from the explosion/heat burst/electricity/???... And if they are then those are some GIANT marbles to be formed that way, you'd expect something closer to, well, marble-sized.
@@Marispider oh little spheres or marbes formed and cooled in the air are absolutely possible. I make em elk the time by feeding thin strands into a gas/oxy flame. They're almost perfect and solid by the time they land. These are stable.. they're just so tiny! This could probably happen on a larger scale but I can't image a natural process.. volcano Maybe? But the other issue that arises with large ones would be the overall composition.. I suppose it could be relatively heterogeneous but inclusions are another issue when you start getting larger.. did a couple little rocks end up in that blob? It's gonna pop. Even materials that were designed for inclusion aren't 100% compatible.. IE synthetic opals.. kyanite is also used sometimes. But on that note, most color isn't even 100% compatible and deeper encasement of some are a near guaranted failure. Hell even clear from different manufactures aren't a perfect match COE wise.. things vary somewhat by batch too. I've worked with the stuff for about 20 years now and spent a good portion of that time making high end specialty labware.. now I mostly make pipes on my own time. What can I say? I prefer not having to adhere to sub millimeter tolerances.. anyway, point is, I wouldn't expect any naturally occurring glass spheres to exist for very long.. or exist in that size at all. I could see fist or baseball size ones being the largest really feasible.
Problem with that is then they’ll start saying water was brought here from Mars by catpeople and rivers were made by them to make the humans mine gold or something.
Funny how this universal melting event absolutely destroyed immense structures larger than anything built by humans, but left a lot of extremely intricate pyramids that we also have unmelted records of how those unmelted structures were made. You would think we would have no intact pyramids if this event happened. Also those nice rock layer lines would be more melted and wobbly.
Shit already came out do your homework research yourself you will find the answers you're asking I'm only asking who's responsible for melting all these buildings
You know... almost every consciparicy theory sounds like a cool idea for a fictional story. Like, a civilization built over the melted remains of an ancient one? That sounds awesome. Too bad most people who come up with these ideas also seem to believe it's true. And have for literal centuries. Just look at the crazy guy who came up with the continent of Mu
I love some pieces of fiction that use "ancient lost continents" as a setting. People can do sciency magic and battle reptilians all they want in that fantasy.
AlternateHistoryHub did a great video on What If Mu Existed a little while ago. I highly recommend watching it because it's pretty interesting (after watching it, I'm highly fascinated about guy who invented Mu as well and need to look up some videos on him...)
Honestly the reason the electricity and erosion patterns look similar is probably because electricity in wood takes the past of least resistance much like how wind rain and the resulting rainwater rundown in the path of least resistance.
As a Geologist…I-I just can’t. Literally everything this conspiracy theorist came up with had a geological explanation. I am pretty sure I’m walking away with a few brain cells missing.
yeah but didn't you ever think that MAYBE you were just LIED to at your college you paid multiple thousands of dollars for? and that everything they told you was actually fake and totally the buildings melted. THEY just don't want you to know about these wacky melted buildings dudeeee
I was looking through some of your older content to see if there were any videos I had missed, and lo and behold, I found this treasure! While I was watching it, my 6-year-old came in and the following exchange happened: 6: "Who's that?" Me: "That's Milo, he uses science to correct people when they're wrong about things." 6: "He seems mad. Why is he mad?" Me: "Because that other guy is saying things that are not true, and that's upsetting." - we watch the video and get to the end - 6: "Mom, can you subscribe? I feel bad for this guy." [meaning Milo] Me: "I've been subscribed for years. Why do you feel bad for him?" 6: "Because he's gotta deal with this guy saying stupid, wrong things." Me: "Yeeeaaahhhh..... That's unfortunately just what it's like to be any kind of scientist nowadays, honey. 😅" Milo, you have my 6-year-old's deepest sympathies. 😂
I found one as a child and thought it might be a dinosaur egg, so my parents sent it to the University of Oklahoma. That is when I learned about concretions and how they form like a pearl
The first time I saw this video I was taken aback, because this was actually a theory I came up with... When I was 6 or 7. My grandparents have a camp on an island off the northeast coast, and I noticed that some of the stones looked almost like weathered bricks. I had heard stories about Atlantis and such, and I knew that there were several different Native American tribes that may have lived out there, back when it was connected by a land bridge, so I thought maybe it used to be a city that had been weathered away (though I knew what erosion was from learning about the grand canyon so my thought was more that it had slowly deteriorated from the sea and been covered up.) It was really funny to me to see a grown adult come up with and fully believe a more outlandish version of something I came up with when I was 7.
Lmfao I’ve probably had a similar theory as a kid. That’s what gets me about this shit. People who know just as much about something as a literal child will have a stupid idea and be like “I’m an adult, therefore my opinion is valid”
"Imagine a city that looked like Atlantis..." Pretty sure that's all we can do, considering nobody knows what Atlantis looked like... and all of this aside from the fact that it probably never even existed in the first place.
4 lines of written description are clear enough more interesting is the two paragraphs describing the location and end. I'll just say it's probably not where you think it is
I do remember watching a TV show that made a pretty compelling case for one of the Mediterranean islands/archipelagoes being "Atlantis" Nowadays the soil is pretty poor and there's not much there, but there are ruins buried under volcanic ash of a decently-sized city and if you dig down, there's a thick layer of volcanic debris, stone, and ash, then under there are signs of tremendously fertile soil. And there's traces of more islands/land, sunken down. It used to be a circular island/archipelago, the lip of a large caldera, just poking out the waves, with openings that meant it was a very safe natural harbour as well. So it would have been fertile, a safe harbour, and on several likely trade routes - likely very wealthy (and thus advanced as well). But then the volcano went boom, destroyed the cities and the land, sank part of the island/archipelago and made the harbour slightly less good, but still pretty decent.
@@samuelmellars7855 yeah, I heard about Santorini Island before. It probably was one of Plato's inspiration. Seriously, the only reason Atlantis is still a mystery is because people believe there is still a mystery. When you know a bit about plato, you quickly understand it was another thought experiment, like when he wrote "the Republic".
@@samuelmellars7855 yeah, I heard about Santorini Island before. It probably was one of Plato's inspiration. Seriously, the only reason Atlantis is still a mystery is because people believe there is still a mystery. When you know a bit about plato, you quickly understand it was another thought experiment, like when he wrote "the Republic".
i love when conspiracy theorists either point at or hide behind a vague hypothetical “they” because my immediate mental image is just a large group of non-binary people
Shh don't tell them about us!! We need to stay invisible until the next Visibility Day, and the melted buildings are where we derive our invisibility makeup from!!
as a nonbinary person, I can assure you that yes, we *are* behid every conspiracy on earth. just for the heck of it. asexuals are gonna take over Canada, and nonbinary people are going... to... melt the Earth, apparently (as a non-binary asexual, I'm very busy; so many conspiracies)
Every time I see a conspiracy like this I just think, “wow, that would be a really cool creation myth for a fantasy world”. These guys should just write books, the wrath of the gods melting and reshaping the world leaving behind molten ruins sounds awesome.
There's lore kinda similar to that in Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic. On Tatooine you can learn about an ancient orbital bombardment that turned most all of the surface of Tatooine to glass. Over time the glass got ground down into the sand that comprises Tatooines great deserts
I desperately want to write a fantasy book where the world was destroyed in a war between the gods, leaving behind shattered ruins and a landscape made unrecognizable by storms and lightning, and though mankind has managed to eke out a living in this post-apocalyptic land, someone is vying to restart the war that destroyed everything.
These ancient buildings sure must have looked stupid before the electricity event, all being solid rock and having no characteristics of actual buildings for humans to live in or use.
Absolutely enjoyable. Had a lovely time watching, and the important part at the end really made me satisfied. Thanks for protecting our scientific communities.
As a catholic, I loved the way you debunked his use of scripture. Most of us believe that scripture is spiritual, not scientific. It’s only a few who make us look bad by believing it is science.
@@parjai97 And not just protestants, evangelical protestants who got their start in the 18th century. Literalist interpretation of the Bible is a rather new phenomenon, with little (altough some) basis in the history of biblical interpretation. EDIT: not only that, he is cherrypicking Bible verses and trying to reinterpret them into things that have nothing to do with the context of the said verses. The verse he's quoting refers to Jerusalem. Not a naturla formation in North America. God have mercy...
@@1sanitat1 Literalism within the study of scripture has led to such an unfortunately rigid perspective on these texts, and partly why I think so many have turned away from it. I hate when people talk about things from the Bible as if it were all supposed to be taken literally. Not only is the meaning and intended teaching lost, but it also paints a really obscured picture of the people who wrote and ascribed to those texts originally. Metaphorical writing didn't suddenly appear in the 1700s, every scripture has its own background that has been lost to time due to mistranslation, changing turns of phrase, societal understandings, etc.
Weird, electrical burn patterns and rivers look similar... almost like they're both following the path of least resistance.
Hmmm idk if I can believe that, it makes too much sense
Impossible it must be god
He even mentioned fractals, which virtually affects everything in nature. Of course they could look similar.
That's what I hate most about these nonsense conspiracies, they look at really interesting features of the world we live in, then come up with the dumbest possible story for why things look that way.
Idk bro the most simple answer usually is not the correct one
The most frustrating thing about “The Grand Canyon is a Lichtenberg Figure” hypothesis, is that if he used just a _little bit_ more brain power, he’d find the reason for this similarity.
Electricity traveling through wood & water eroding rock have a feature in common: they follow the path of least resistance.
That’s what the path of least resistance tends to look like.
The math behind both produces the “fractal” pattern for that reason.
THANK YOH
Literally got so pissed watching that part that I was going to the comments to say this and found you already had lol
Lmao, I literally was looking for this comment exactly
Just like his thought process.
When I was a kid I found all kinds of swords in the woods. They looked like sticks but they had to have been swords from a forgotten civilization that got cast in bark.
It was the Death Star that converted them to wood
I had a horse that accidentally got reincarnated as a bike!
@@Siahnette that reminded me of Pia Hagmars Flisan books because the mc pretended her bike was a horse back in the day as a kid
Edit: i named my cat Flisan after reading those books
I. Love. This.
i found a bunch of antique guns that petrified into plastic and seemed to also petrify into containing water
This dude has given me a complex about the words, "structure", "figure", and "looks like".
Oh! And "appears"!
@@KougajiCalling Don't forget "legit"
I figure the structure of his videos looks like bullshit.
@@WalkerRileyMC Yeah... I had forgotten... *Shudder*
@@chriswiggins1679 It sure does!
Also, can we take a sec to talk about why canyons look similar to the electric current pattern? It's literally just cause electricity takes the path of least resistance, just the same as water in a river. Like there is a reason both have "current"
Omfg 😱
@@columnarbasalt4677 Fractals are everywhere in nature. Even in the way plants grow. Look up fractals in nature and you'll see why.
Even when you look at leaves it’s just a fractal
See thats what I love about conspiracy theory debunking is how much I learn
@Jacob Pilavin That's what he said. But rivers, like electricity, follow the path of least resistance. As that river runs through the valley, it flows where the rock cuts the easiest. The rest is up to weather erosion.
Electricity does the same. As do the veins in a tree's leaves and the blood vessels in your body.
Silly Alphatalkz, if he had ever read the acclaimed scientific journal known as the Pokedex, he would know that Ground is in fact Immune to Lightning, and therefore could not form these Lichtenberg Figures
This should be top comment. 👏👏👏
Those rock spheres are obviously an Onyx graveyard.
Check fuckin mate
@@remainprofane7732 POV: you're a 126 rated player going against alphatalkz
@@ApaulSaid More like Geodude graveyard
half that dude's vocabulary is "this looks like". grown man learns that sometimes things look like other things. groundbreaking.
The real conspiracy here is the education system.
people like that often do that. they claim you can only describe things with "it looks like .." that is one of the tricks
Dudes gonna have a heart attack if he looks up at the clouds.
@@tmarritt lmaoo
@@tmarritt looks up HOLY CRAP THERES FREE COTTON CANDY IN THE SKY
Hi Milo! Long time listener, first time caller. As an university professor in geology, I am impressed by your description of sedimentary rocks and structures. Good job! I look forward to more of your videos in the future.
PS Lichtenberg figures, lighting, erosion, dendritic crystal growth are all fractal patterns. This is why they have a superficially similar form. Their forms have nothing to do with their causes; they are a consequence of following the path of least resistance (see monte carlo simulations and random walk theory).
I greatly appreciate your use of Radio/talkshow terminology and I will be adding such ideas into my vocabulary, take a like as payment
His whole argument is basically "doctors are humans, you look human, you must be a doctor"
It's a BIT suspicious that I've seen bots write comments under YT videos, and now YOU also write comments under YT videos...
And THEY claim to have no knowledge of this! How convenient...
"A" looks like "B", "B" looks like "C", therefor "A" is "C"
@@Otek_Nr.3 would a bot call you a dumb cvnt? 🤣
Gravity is only a theory …
@censusgary drop your ph then. If its "just a theory" then you'll expect it to float, or fly higher, just as much as you expect it to drop
"Talk to any engineer!"
My father is an engineer, and when inquired about building on slopes, he stated simply:
"We're engineers. We make it work, it's not that hard. As long as the foundation is sound and you know the local geography-- i mean, we've been doing this for a few thousand years, it's not a new science. And I mean, it's an efficient way to use space if you're building a city."
Engineers dont give a shit if it's on a slope, they take that as a challenge to their intellectual might. Engineers are some of the most batshit crazy inventors out there, and you think a slight incline is going to stop them from making their dream home? Hilarious.
He’s an engineer, he solves practical problems.
Also like. Does he know about fuckin Filbert St in San Fran or other extremely step streets?
Ikr my house is literally built on a slope, they took some dirt from the surrounding area and piled it up next to the foundation so it wasn't too steep, and as you walk around to the back you'll see the ground is a couple feet lower than in the front, it's not that absurd lol
@@apyr34556 Not problems like "what is beauty", because that would then fall to your perview on the conundrums of philosophy. He solves practical problems.
Like, "How to stop some big mean mother hubbard from tearing me a new structural suprerfluous new behind?". The answer is a gun, and if that don't work, use more gun.
@@kai_maceration My sister owns a farm, and their house is on a hill. The slope uncovers the basement level on one side, such that it's a whole second entrance. The original builders just constructed the house with the slope in mind.
Also, it's on top of a big hill. Where was this hypothetical mudslide supposed to originate from?
As an Indian person, I can say conclusively, as a representative of my people, that we built those temple looking things in Mt. Zion. But we didn't properly seal the materials and so they melted. Also, we left no traces because we're environmentalists and cleaned up our trash, duh!
Lmao! The truth is finally exposed!
Being real, I find it funny that he conveniently ignored actual ancient structures - like the nearby beautiful Mesa Verde.
Looking at actual structures though completely invalidates his argument, as they immediately reveal themselves to have human crafted features.
Bro how old are you?
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Damn, can't you Indians do anything right? You forced Alex Jones to make the frogs gay! DEUTSCHLAND!
@@chaitanya8126 if I've got my ethnic stereotypes correct, they're reincarnated.
I don't yet have a conspiracy theorist bingo card, but I do have a terrible video essayist bingo card and this guy hit all the prerequisites. Soft, reasonable voice; inoffensive piano music; citation-less statements; baseless connections/inferences; visuals/references that debunk their own theories.....
You get the idea. LOL. New subscriber and I'm binging before bed. 😁 👍
I love how painfully close he gets to a truth, usually “this looks like runoff” and then he immediately goes straight to “it must have been a mega lightning bolt/thermonuclear detonation.”
Looks like the apple fell out of the tree. A giant must have plucked it and put it on the ground.
I hear hooves. A noise that is produced when horses, zebras and similar animal run. Must be centaurs.
“This looks like runoff… of LAVA!”
Mega lightning bolt thermonuclear detonation sounds metal as fuck though
Because he is a grifter.
He knows the answer to that question its why he knows how to manipulate idiots to what he claims is the reasion.
This guy's setup with such a small fan base is becsuse he wants peoppe to buy his merchandise. And apparently they do brcsuse he has all this stuff.
Guy: *sees literally any rock*
Him immediately: this is, in fact, evidence that there was a melted civilian of Atlantis in the heart of Utah
Lol
as a utahn, all of the shit to do with utah in his video is fucking HYSTERICAL
100% agrea
*hm, yes, this floor here looks like floor, but might be my melted grandmas remains..*
@@rynw.3867 what's it like to live on top of melted atlantis that's also india
Bro really said "if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and swims like a duck, it must be evidence of an ancient civilization"
Are you telling me that ducks did indeed build an ancient civilization? 😱
@@semiramisrosarot yes, they absolutely did and they were called the quackers 🤣
#ducksarealiens
Forget ancient aliens. Ancient ducks are so much more plausible.
Duck's also built stone henge. They are a species of Alien, that travels through time to guide the way the planet develops.
I know this video is ancient at this point, but I just wanted to touch on the point of why people need to be called out on their conspiracy theories, and also say that I appreciate that you're doing it, Milo. Someone has to, really _everyone_ has to, but your academic background and relatable way of speaking makes you a really great candidate for being the Loud One.
There are a lot of people out there who have their "pet" conspiracy theories, (Kubrick and the moon landing, for example) and yes, they look mostly harmless, but the problem with leaving any of these things standing is that they open doors to more insidious thoughts. Once you're just "asking questions", you can "ask questions" about some really dangerous topics.
"Asking questions" about vaccination leads to vaccine hesitancy, which leads to vaccine refusal, which leads to outbreaks of diseases almost no one has seen in 100 years in the west, and even leads to pets living shorter lives because people don't want their dogs to get autism. There are people alive _right now_ who knew people, usually children, who died of these very preventable diseases, and anti-vaxxers just somehow completely ignore that those people exist somehow; they say they want proof, but they don't trust scientists, which means they should trust anecdotes, right? The mental gymnastics and the hubris involved are just astounding.
All that to say, thanks for doing what you do man, keep it up! It's important work.
Your comments on anti-vaxxers sure didn't age well. Perhaps you should try applying some critical thinking in your life rather than judge those who don't worship lab coats.
@@daleg1679 You're welcome to elaborate, I personally think it's aged just fine.
Honest to God it is exhausting to live amongst such ridiculous and stupid conspirators as the first commenter shows. And he then goes in to talk about "critical thinking." Just unbelievable!
@@daleg1679There's always one of them somewhere. You lot just crawl out of the woodwork the moment someone clowns on you for being paranoid nuts
Asking questions about vaccines *can* lead to the things you mentioned. But it's not a guarantee that it will.
People who believe that sort of stuff already had a predisposition toward that sort of thought.
There's no shame in trying to learn more about the world.
The words "appears, looks like, and as if" are doing a lot of heavy lifting for this guy's hypothesis.
It’s like the coconut from tf2
Those 6 words could win a weightlifting competition for conspiracy theorists
Fun, deadly drinking game: Watch that guys entire video but take a shot every time he says “looks like; as if, appear to be, etc.”
Take two if he uses the word “legit”
Thank you for using the word hypothesis. I feel like calling them theories gives them too much scientific credibility.
People in the past probably got inspiration for nature features that look interesting, so man made structures could just be imitation of nature ones
It’s never “scientists can’t explain this phenomenon.” It’s always “scientists can’t explain this phenomenon in a way that is satisfying to ME.”
Also it bothers me so much when conspiracy theorists don’t even TRY to pronounce the names of the places or people they’re talking about. It feels so disrespectful
Welcome to Climate-Change denyers, they coined that term to spite "global warming", and unironically denounced their very own created term.
More like "I can't come up with a different explanation and I'm too lazy to do any research on it".
More like “scientists can’t explain this in a way that my uneducated pea brain can understand because I have zero foundation on this topic I’m spouting off on”.
More like “Smooth brain go bahhhhhh”.
He forgot to mention all those "electrical patterns" on Mars. I guess the Egyptians had a "lightning melts my cities" problem no matter where their colonies were.
Didn't you know? Mars is a giant busted spaceship, and the reason it's red is because it's rust! Think a busted Death Star
@@tenebrousoul9368 oh crap they got a goddamn Death Star, we are all gonna die. 🙂
That's what you get for not worshiping Jupiter.
I mean, Mars is right next to it and he is just supposed to accept a total lack of temples for him?
@@Burner-B that’s what the red spot is for. It’s the superlaser.
@@vadernation1233 or!
Is it the start of Mars assimilating/infecting its neighbours? Or the last remnants now that Jupiter is healing?
Just asking....
Lol, youtube got drunk again and recommended me this after the Filip Zieba videos. I am rather thankful taht it did though, because it is not bad and shows how much have you improved Milo.
I love how the heat was so immensely intense that it completely melted the entire "buildings" leaving no trace of their existence behind...but those "bridges" just...persevered.
Hello there...
Is that me? 🤔 🤣
Are you trying to use logic? How dare you.
That makes total sense. Bridges lead over rivers. Hot days heat the water and the bridge. The water steam goes up to the bridge and cools it down through thermodynamics. So the bridge gets watercooled by the river
/s
yes. it melted the buildings and rock in caves but not the bridges. because. science.
And a ton of life lol
I’m stunned that you didn’t mention how this cataclysmic heat storm that melted entire stone pyramids and buildings somehow didn’t melt the thin stone bridges connecting those very buildings together.
Seriously 😂
Seriously 😂
What stone bridges are you referring to?
@@MrThede02 the ones being talked about from roughly 16:15 to 16:33 as well as from 18:23 to 18:45
._. bro…
so many of these ideas are so cool aesthetically like... these people need to stop doing conspiracy theories and start writing fantasy
hell yes like loads of conspiracy theories would be awesome in some fictional lore why waste all that creative talent
that’s exactly what i was thinking!! there’s so much potential there
Fantasy or like spy thrillers for some of the more modern ones.
I've been thinking about this kinda thing a lot. Imagine this kinda thing mixed with the Agartha (or hollow earth) conspiracy theory. These people are crazy but god do they have good imaginations
As someone who loves to create stories, I am so constantly mad that conspiracy theorists ruin amazing potential stories. For one, a plot about the government using medicine to save people from deadly disease as a way to microchip/gain control of its citizens? It’s got so much cool potential, but it can never be made because it would just fuel the conspiracy flames
The irony of the pharaoh decreeing that everyone call him perfect screwing up the design of his tomb.
My man, not only are you the most entertaining person on tiktok. You are exactly what the world needs right now, dismantling insane conspiracy theories with cold hard facts. I cannot wait for your ancient aliens series. Absolutely love your content.
Thank you so much my friend! It’s dirty work, but someones gotta do it. Making sure stuff like this isn’t allowed to proliferate is part of the responsibility of any sane person. Please continue to keep that mindset and point out bullshit whenever you see it. You never know, you just might save someone from being exposed to it!
I can't wait for Ancient Aliens debunking either. That was the funniest programme on TV. I dont undersrand how it never won any comedy awards 😂😂
True man
@@miniminuteman773more videos here please
@@miniminuteman773 will you consider debunking the new ancient Rome didn’t exist theory?
Every time a conspiracy theorist says "science can't explain" I roll my eyes so hard it is painful. There are many things science can't explain, this is not one of them.
And everytime science explains them wrong they say its fraud elitist slave science :-D
99% of the time they say that, science can in fact explain it easilly. And the rest of the time, there are many more credible theories.
And the biggest joke about that is that science cannot explain anything. That's not its job. Science is putting what we can observe about something into words, which are then measured against their capability to correctly predict other stuff.
Most of what those nut jobs call science isn't science at all. It is observed facts.
Science can't explain why that makes your eyes hurt!
"Science can't explain" is nothing more than a confession that they never tried to understand science's explanation
As someone who grew up in the south west, and who revisits the best sites every year, it is exceedingly clear to me that Alpha Talkz has never actually seen any of these things in person. You can see arches in the process of formation, and you can watch canyons forming pretty much in real time. Geological formations do not exist in a time vacuum.
hell as a kid I used to check how this dirt hill near my house would change after it rained cause I thought it was so cool it looks like a small river going down the side how does this dude ignore basic shit you can see outside
In the forest next to where I grew up, there is a small but somewhat steep dirt road. As it's always repaired with sand, whenever it rains moderately, you can see the whole erosion process scaled down but at high speed.
It's also a great place to look for seashells.
it's kind of clear he's either playing a character or some screws in that head aren't all on there.
Gradualism? Nope.
Catastrophism? Nah.
Aliens? ABSOLUTELY!
@@slappy8941 Well, aliens are the only logical solution, after all! /s
First video, as a recent veiwer is still really good!
You have a wonderful format Milo! I am so stoaked to learn more about archeology from you!
As a Californian, I can confirm that the state used to be an ancient Egyptian skyscraper megacity thousands of years ago with windows made of rocks
As a montanian, I can confirm we are just a giant lake owned japan. 巨大なモンスターを無視すれば、泳ぐのはとても楽しいです
I'm from Miami. Everything down here was originally made from cocaine. That's why they had to dump a swamp on top of it, and a bunch of muck and what not, and we ship sand in to cover all of our beaches. Though I've heard the cocaine was still fairly easy to reach in the 70's and 80's, I was just a kid then. The government is secretly really happy that we're going to be underwater soon because they'll finally be able to stop buying sand to cover up all the coke.
I can also confirm, as an Ex-Californian who lived on the coast, just be careful, I heard the US Government is kidnapping those who give away their secre-
Those "rocks" were actually glass spheres which simply appear to be rocks, for... ummmm... reasons. 🙄
Personally, I think big spheres of ancient glass would have made excellent windows. The views through them must have been breathtaking.😂😂😂
Sounds like the Flintstones
I'm really feeling sorry for the man who made the melted building theory. He seems so desperate to understand the mysteries around him, but he fails at every step.
It's like he is holding a book upside down and is willing to consider any and all options on what it could mean and how to interprete it, except the option of turning it around.
It's just wild watching him say that the entire earth must have been flooded with mud, because for him the unbelievable alternative is just that humans would choose to build settlements on sloped surfaces
@@mellow_mallow I find it hilarious he has a replica of Rodin's 'The Thinker' on his desk.
@@wwiiinplastic4712 I didn't notice that but that's really funny
He won’t even consider the idea of an Ancient Earth, because he’s been brainwashed his entire life to believe that YEC is essential to believing in God.
I’m maybe 5-7 years younger than the original guy who made the theory, and I remember how intense the Creationist aspect of Evangelicals was back then. I was raised Catholic (who tend to believe in the scientific assessment of the Earth’s age & creation) and there was always this idea that people who believed in God and evolution at the same time were somehow lying about their faith.
So this dude has probably been brought up believing that anyone who believes differently than him is not only wrong, but also a liar. Which means if he can’t explain his beliefs…he’s a liar too
ETA: I do think it’s sad actually, the way Creationists do their thing is almost spiritual abuse. We (at Catholic school) were taught “God created evolution” and that the story of Genesis was a metaphor meant to explain the unexplainable to people who didn’t have the technology to even begin to understand it.
I’m no longer a Catholic, and I’m highly critical of Catholicism and organized religion in general, but I did feel like this was a good way of make sense of the science vs spirituality issue that so many people get hung up on
Off topic: this is funny to me personally because I used to read my textbooks upside down when I was a kid sometimes. I don't know why. I guess I thought someone would find it impressive. Try it for yourself you'll likely find it's not difficult at all.
I honestly think these people just haven't spent enough time out in the natural world. Around the time you find your 10th heart shaped rock you start to understand that these things just happen.There are literally thousands of mountains and uncountable hills, it's hardly surprising a couple of them look a little bit like a pyramid from the right angle.
unfortunately there is money in spewing nonsense, I can say the sky is orange, and that the Big Government hides the truth with Vaccines and my video will be 100 million views and I will get rich immediately, I can even amass a group following that will send me money to spew more truth before I am assassinated by the secret cabal of aliens.
There is too many people out there looking for nonsense because they can't fathom why their life sucks, it can't be that they are the reason, it must be Big Government, aliens, monsters, it must be those secrets that my life sucks, and they will pay to keep that illusion true.
I won't do this because I will be knowingly destroying lives of people, and I can't handle that, but many online can and will, because they place themselves above everyone else and what if they kill themselves because of me, it doesn't bother them.
Also, I love how these theorists talk about things being "too symmetrical", oh it's too "too symmetrical to be natural". Bro go outside, nature is full of symmetry lol. Leaves, flowers, rocks ect. Most natural formations will be symmetrical or close to it. I mean look at snowflakes and ice crystal formations. Just a bit of wider and more in depth thinking and we wouldn't be here XD
You and I would start to get a clue after the 10th heard shaped rock. I am in a number of PNW rockhounding groups -- constant stream of people who proudly show off their fossil hearts and kidneys. Again and again. And will defend their claims to the death.
@@seanlarabee6300in my house alone, there is a spot in a rock that looks ridiculously similar to the shape of Albania, as well as a rock with a similar shape to France. Yet the dude doesn't seem to understand gravity
@@unclenought6385in summary, a very complex way of saying "touch grass"
The cave/stalactite part cracks me up a bit because when I was around 14, I took a trip to Luray Caverns and the tour guides gave a whole speech on how stalactites work. It's a very pretty and very interesting place, and I honestly think it's cooler that it was made naturally than if it had been from some destroyed ancient civilization. (I highly recommend visiting there if you can!)
When I was in fifth or six grade we had a science fair. I did the “dripping water from bath tub faucet onto bar of soap” “experiment.” I thought it was a silly one but given how this guy doesn’t understand erosion, I’m thinking he should do that experiment.
Soap ....or an tiny weenie mega city . I found a feature on the floor so I can now prove Angeles are real .
Me, third grade science fair.
Different colors and layers of jello in a large glass dish.
Board reads "MOUNTAIN FORMATION"
To demonstrate plate tectonics, I shoved my hand straight down and (slowly) pushed the jello to one side.
there's also that place in japan which has done it with **rock** for like a century with impressive erosive results. Not sarcasm, they put rock slabs below taps to see what would happen.
I feel like the worst problem in the theory is that apparently the "pyramid" in the grand canyon was melted in the same "mega lighting" that created the grand canyon... that it apparently was built in
wait.
Really?
No. They CAN'T be this stupid, can they?
I think my brain just short circuited
That's a very good point
I caught that too ☺️
That used to be flat ground. The mega lightning was so powerful it actually excavated the entire Grand Canyon and deposited the dirt in North Dakota, forming Mt Rushmore
@@Uhshawdude ever noticed how close the Rocky Mountains are to the Grand Canyon? 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
When 'they' (in this case, conspiracy theorists) do things like comparing electrical damage to wood to the grand canyon, and deciding it must be the same cause, it's like saying: We have seen lines drawn by pencil, and when you look at a highway from above it's a line, therefore highways must have been formed by giant pencils.
“If you look at these two points, you will see a straight line between them”
@@normalhuman9878 NO WAY
Next thing you'll tell me is that if you connect 5 points in all ways to each other, you'll form a pentagram...
@@smergthedargon8974 i have discovered that the pentagon has 5 points and you know what else has 5 points a pentagram therefore the pentagon is run by devils and the elections are rigged to give control to the next incarnation of satan at each election. Checkmate atheists.
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Seeing this years later... it's just as good as your current content. Love your work!
7:30 friendly reminder fractal wood burning is highly dangerous and very easily could kill you, as the voltage is not regulated by your standard built-in off switch by your at home electricity (when detecting interference like a human body) since it’s passing through a makeshift toaster thing to get that high of a current into the wood. it’s neat but it’s dangerous just thought i should mention
THANK YOU
Yes, it can kill, and has killed.
Check out Anne Reardon's "How to Cook That". She debunks hacks and crafts. She did an excellent video on using microwave components to burn wood in these fractal patterns. She explains how and why it is so dangerous, and tells how people were killed doing this. (It was banned but is now back on)
Thank you for mentioning it! :O
Doesn't the wood also need to have been soaked in salt water, or am I wrong?
@@TheSchultinator I'm not sure exactly how it works but, yes, it requires lots of water and high voltage electricity. People have died and people have been horribly disfigured.
Wow, melting and erosion look crazy similar. It’s almost like there is some kind of force that pulls things down to the earth when they’re loosened or detached from the main structure.
And that the things that fall first don't leave room for those that come after which makes it pile up.
Maybe this could all be explained by some study involving the dynamics of fluidity. Call it fluid dynamics to explain how liquids, plasmas and gasses move in predictable patterns. Oh right. never mind.
It seriously is like this guy doesn't realise that there is more than one fluid that exists
@sapphinese It’s called Gravity relative to present elements
A lot of people don't understand the gravity of the situation.
As an OSHA 10 certified person, the world's first documented OSHA violation nearly made me do a spit take 🤣
I want to add a like, but then it wouldn’t be 343 (Guilty Spark).
Did we ever get the mud flood debunk video? Excited for that one! Love this channel!
By this man's logic, the blood vessels in our bodies were also formed by an electrical current because they display the same fractal pattern. Maybe that's why we have magnetic personalities :P
Were yours not?
Don’t you know that fractals are highly combustible and excellent conductors?!?!? I thought that was common middle school science!!!!
God that hurt to read! BOOO BAD JOKE XD
Are there those CPR apparatus designed for?
to give babies their bloodvessels?
Exactly. Same with tree roots, funghi roots, rivers, crystals, nerves, galatic superclusters, cracks in a plastered wall.
It is almost as if there is some underlying mechanism guiding all of those things.... like some collection of rules of how material things behave in the universe. Something that would describe movement and the distribution of matter... So mysterious. Can't be physics though, cause that is boring and hard to understand, so good thing we ruled that out from the start.
It's fascinating to me how these people see everything as connected, but then miss the very obvious actual connections that we have discovered to exist.
On the Lichtenberg argument: It’s been observed that flow of any kind, such as people, marbles, or electrical current generally follows the same principles as flowing water. It would only make sense that the patterns formed by water searching for a place to pool and current searching for a place to ground would resemble each other.
No no it CLEARLY means a giant ancient laser carved the canyon
@@pash_4904 just the covenant glassing earth several thousand years ago, turns out halo was real and the halos activated thousands of years ago.
@@15firekid
Ah so that's why there's no sentient life to be found anywhere on the internet
Nature repeats itself, and this is the path of least resistance.
Idk man. I'm always fascinated by things, so I learned about them, but I feel like conspiracy theorist decide to just assume stuff about things they find "interesting" instead of figuring out what is known and why it's known
I was looking for this comment
i've found that conspiracy theories are actually really great for writing fiction. Imagine a planet covered in canyons and caves formed by an actual mega-death-laser striking it
NJ Jemisin's Broken Earth series did it well.
You can repurpose alot of it for fantasy settings too
The Underpowered Death Star theory. Or, as I like to call it, "the UDS theory"(trademark pending) is actually an example of the beauty industry deciding that planets could use a wrinkle remover.
When coming up with the design and specifications of this project, somebody forgot to carry the one in a critical calculation, and the UDS was born.
After a trial run created the Grand Canyon and the Marianas Trench, it was adjusted and subsequently used on Mars to horrific effect.
The project was shuttered and later revived by the Imperial Order for their own planetary beautification programs.
Edit....
On rereading this tattoo removal might be a better idea than wrinkles
@@M50A1 Exactly, taking the flat earth model and propping it up with magic and exploring how such a world would work is really interesting!
Biblaridon has a video on such a universe, where the world is a flat plane and light comes from 5 magical "suns" spinning a distance above the surface. Obviously this results in only a vanishingly small portion of the infinite plane being habitable and the area immediately under the suns being rather sweltering.
@@M50A1 Have you ever heard of Nausicäa and the Walley of the wind from Hayao Miyazaki?
I love this dude haha. He sees actual geological processes and just uses his own words like "melting" or "destroyed" which somehow makes it spooky and mysterious lol
"Partly because I'm a terrible person, and mostly because I was depressed" has got to be the most spot-on description of my life ever. Thanks for the insight, small time person.
I've got to give this guy credit for the sheer confidence he seems to have when he says something "looks like Atlantis..." Like has he seen Atlantis up close? What else is he hiding from us?
Easy to find a sunken city when you're drowning in your own bullshit
@@juniperrodley9843 Lmao brilliant reply
@@Llamalad12 what'd he say
@@ZergIingLover No one knows
@@couldbedog9735 juniper rodley and llamalad might
I’m- a little worried about that conspiracy theorist. It’s like he grew up in a bunker with his only exposure to the outside world being Ancient Aliens and the Bible. He doesn’t seem to understand ANY of the basic mechanics of the world around him to the point where I have trouble believing he even went to school. Can someone go check on him?
Dont worry , he came out to vote Trump :-D
@@herzkine PFFFFF this made me laugh too hard
He looks so lost in that video. Like that moment with fly, he is clearly shocked from something being alive.
Don’t worry, most of the people I went to school with had no understanding of the mechanics of the world around them. On second thought, maybe worry.
@@hlibushok check out the comments on his video and the type of people he attracts. yikes.
I’ve never heard someone mispronounce “Zion” before. That was a treat. Thanks Milo 😁 love the videos dude. It’s my new favorite channel btw 👍
"If it looks like a thing, it must be that thing" what a philosophy to live by. I wonder, if that dude stands on one side of a lake & can't see the other side, would he say "it's a secret ocean!"
Everything I ever needed to learn I learned from Monty Python. If she weighs as much as a duck...
“A horse has 4 legs and a head, therefore a table is a horse. A chicken has 2 legs and wings, therefore a bat is a chicken. A man has a face and two hands, therefore a clock is a man.”
No I do don’t think that’s how the holy grail sketch went
Boy oh boy he'd have grand time with the Great Lakes!
@@pucamisc *waves a plucked chicken in the air* BEHOLD A MAN
I also love the idea that it HAS to be the Egyptians despite having other cultures that indeed built layered pyramids in the Americas 🤡 at least blame it on the Mayans or something, man, to make it a bit less of a ridiculous claim
Really funny how he chose two cultures from the other side of the planet when a few hundred miles south was a culture that literally did build pyramids. Such an odd man
The Egyptians got the land from the Mayans after playing a children's card.
As if there is some bias behind his claims, wouldn’t be surprised if he thinks the mayan pyramids were made by the Egyptians knowing how bizarre he is
@@victory8928 lmao
@@Deadxman616 Mayans beat the Egyptians in a game of thumb war, wake up smh
Snowflakes? They're just too crazy, too symmetrical. There's just GOT to be a big snowflake factory in the sky filled with alien snow people who design each one.
I just know one of them became Orange potus
Honestly, this is a pretty cool conspiracy theory, I actually like this one lmao it's adorable
The moon looks like cheese. I think the moon was fermented and is cheese from an ancient galactic civilization.
i'm pretty sure that if you make a video saying snow is made by Nasa to sell winter clothes some people will believe
This conspiracy goes hard
Re: The Grand Canyon, his logic totally breaks down. The canyon is supposed to be created by a mega lightning bolt, but a pyramid, that was built in the canyon, before it existed, was also melted by the same mega-bolt that created the canyon???
Don't you see, that just means the ground used to be flat there. No-one would build at the bottom of a canyon, so there must not have been a canyon. The building sank when the ground under it melted. That's also why it blends with the ground - they were melting at the same time and fused together.
Stop thinking like a conspiracy theorist
@@meepmerp6935 just stop thinking altogether, i guess. Why not
Well, if you throw out the entire science of geology I guess you can argue whatever dating scheme you want
@@NotTheDAHASAG return to monke
"Who builds buildings on unlevel ground?...Talk to any engineer". Well, the College of Engineering at my university was built on a slope in 1905.
😂😂
“Behold, my house, and as you can see, it is on a SLOPE! OoOoOoO! Spooky Egyptian alien magic!”
My whole freaking city built on top of a marsh. :(
My college is a series of hills with buildings on them.
People who build on slopes are obviously not flat-earthers.
When I was a student at university I had a professor who said he couldn't be bothered to refute any of the stuff that people like von Daniken said, because he figured if they ignored them, they would go away. Well, here we are, 36 years later, and we are stuck with a population that is taught to reject scientific reasoning, because it's elitist. I love your channel. Thanks for fighting against the demon haunted world.
Keep up the good work! For every quack out there we need people debunking them hard (and in a funny way). Also, you missed one point. The first "pyramid" he points out, at the bottom of a valley that was supposedly made by horizontal lighting (???) would imply that they made the building underground and then the lighting revealed it by creating the valley? Nice work, by the way, your videos cheer me up immensely (and are educational too!)
I've just realised something. If the "pyramid" in the grand canyon was made before the "global heating event", how would it be at the bottom of a canyon THAT WAS MADE IN THE SAME EVENT?!?
But yeah, anyway love your videos mate, absolutely brilliant.
Exactly. You see this all the time with archaeological conspiracy theories. They spend so much time "just asking questions" that eventually those questions contradict each other. Ancient Aliens has probably proposed at least a dozen explanations for how aliens built the Moai but never flinch as they propose another. They all work this way. Ancient Aliens, Melted Buildings, Tartaria, Mud Flood, Atlantis and so on all just involve being confused in the general direction of a question and acting like that is an answer.
Yeah, I was wondering the same XD.
@@sealeo5772 That's the problem with conspiracy theories: there is nearly infinite ways to say "It COULD have happened like this," especially when you ignore more concrete evidence. The imagination is near limitless when you allow yourself to pick and choose things like most conspiracy theorists do.
Fun fact: The great pyramid of Giza *also* has fossils in it, because it was made of limestone blocks that had fossils in them. They're actually pretty easy to find if you visit it and wander around the base looking moderately closely at the building blocks.
Fascinating, very cool bit of knowledge. Doesn’t change the other details of the mountain that still made that one a mountain. (The stratigraphy is my fav example)
@@harrogeorge7878 100% true!
@@Abahrelgazalia ok i did confirm that there fossils in the pyramid, because saying 100% true makes it seem like you just up some wild BS. But yeah really interesting fact.
@@noskillrequired9532 Ah, sorry. '100% true' was meant to be a reply to Hairy_cube's comment about the other details of the mountain that made it clearly a mountain: "It's 100% true that the presence of ex situ fossils in the Great Pyramid does not change the fact that Gebel Dist is a mountain."
Fascinating.
I’m laughing so hard at the “who builds on a slope” thing lmfao. In all the buildings I’ve ever lived, not a single one was built on flat ground. When there’s an economic/social incentive to build in a hilly area, it’s not that hard to make it happen.
yeah dude's obvioulsy never been to an city built near a mountin.
My house is really old and is on a STEEP slope. I burst out laughing at that bit
Yeah, I just walk around my neighborhood and most of the houses are on slopes, all except the houses on the horizontal streets
The entire block my house is on was build on a slope so I can confirm it’s pretty common
Pittsburgh is one giant hilly city. The center is flat and very quickly becomes hilly as you move away from the point
20:42 there’s a Pokemon looking thing at the bottom which leads me to believe that the melted buildings were inhabited by pokemons back in the day
To me, claiming that every natural Arch Formation is "proof of an ancient artificially built bridge that was reduced to its current state by some cataclysmic heat event" is the dumbest part. I say this because fun fact: The weakest part of a bridge is the arch itself. So, if there was some crazy-strong firestorm that destroyed those "buildings," *there would not be any surviving part to indicate anything such as a bridge.*
Also, as stated in the debunking, melted stone is lava. And if you were to look up "cooled lava flow," you'll find that none of the pictures look like wax from a melted candle; if anything, a lot of the pics look more like a tangled pile of yarn.
Last thing I want to say is that using natural lightning to create a Lichtenburg figure, especially of such a large scale, is impossible. Simply due to the fact that lightning is A. Impossible to predict where it will strike and B. at most going to last only a few seconds.
I was thinking the same thing when he showed the Oxford building bridge! Like that looks like the LEAST stable part of that building, that looks like it'd be the first thing to go!
i'm no scientist, but i assume if such a cataclysmic lightning could strike, the energy generated would be so ridiculous and instantaneous the shit in its path would just explode out of thermal shock rather than melt like an ice cream at the beach
@@andrealotito4412 yeah the rock'd explode, melting would require sustained heat for maybe hours
@@andrealotito4412 I didn't even think of that, but it makes so much sense! Even in the video he showed, it's a slow creep through the wood from a long, continuous electrical current. Yet in the part with the "Melted glass" when he quotes the comment, it specifies that glass forms balls when cooled quickly. Which doesnt make sense if it was a long continuous current like it would take. I dont know if any of this made sense to anyone but me, lmao!
I used to LOVE conspiracy theories. So much fun to look at pseudo-evidence and ask “what if”. That’s been ruined once they actually started having real life consequences because people are dumb.
Disappointing evolution.
Conspiracy theories are fun in the same way fiction is fun. It's cool to think about but you know it's not actually real.
@@abigailsmith6000 Conspiracy theories irritate the holy heck out of me. It’s like fingernails on an intellectual chalkboard. I just can’t.
It's funny, 10+ years ago i was considered a "conspiracy theorist" (I've never really believed most conspiracy theories, i just find them entertaining/interesting) yet now I'm routinely called a skeptic even though my beliefs haven't really changed at all.
@@fuktrumpanzeeskumthat’s really interesting, I guess it also shows how people have been polarized
Im a geologist/ soil science grad student and I couldn't finish this due to the uncomfortable amounts of second hand embarrassment I got from the theorist. You are much stronger than I ever will be.
I feel your pain. So I set the replay speed up to 150% to ease my suffering.
The way the guy talks is grating, the fact that he's spewing BS makes it so much worse.
I'm happy to have found your first video, and I state, that you were off to a flying start.
I know you've made many more interesting and exciting videos in the meantime (2024 now). You have kept your enthusiasm and spirit! Thank you for your work. 🤗
I love how he says it “looks too symmetrical” I guess butterflies and moths are actually man made lmfao
Don't forget birds
I’m waiting for someone to start spreading this in full seriousness
oh and don't forget about snowflakes. each one, man made. on god.
My sister in christ, you reinvented creationism
By the way they're ready robot flies drones and other insects you can pretty much create everything
i always love the part where they say that "scientists can't explain" the thing... while ignoring the well-documented scientific explanation for the thing. anyway, happy to stumble upon your channel. subbed and looking forward to more.
But science can explain what it wants if those woke pseudwokes just dont accept it.
Most of the time, scientists can't explain because... What they show and say is complete BS.
No, you aren't going to find an explanation on how the world got covered in electric burns and how whole mountains melted. Because... it's just not what happened.
"Scientist can't explain" = the subject I don't understand is too complex for any individual with knowledge on the subject to explain in a simple enough way for me to understand
I just noticed something: at 20:56, the so-called "rock" to your right *looks like* a fresh loaf of sourdough bread. Therefore, I conclude that it is, in fact, a fossilized bread loaf, since that's all you need to prove a theory apparently.
Sometimes when cats sleep they look like a bread loaf..... And Egyptians venerated cats🤔 they even mummified them! 🤯 everything is just Egyptian bread cats and mega lightning!
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@els1f which proves that the Egyptians came from Venus riding on nuclear bombs.
that's dwarven battle bread *nods sagely*
Well, I just realised that trees look just like Lichtenberg figures, so clearly they must have been made by an electrical current from inside the earth's core.
Guys I'm really scared, I see this pyramid-looking thing that people are calling a "mountain" whatever that is. I think they've been brainwashed by the government who are also aliens.
I have to say. All these insane conspiracy theories are pretty cool ideas for a D&D campaign
Holy Scheiße your right that’s a great idea
Meh. Melted buildings are cool (see Harrenhal in GoT) but how do you make that a good campaign?
@@Ezullof For example, something happens in an area. All that i left are half melted buildings, there re no bodies to be found. The weirdest part is that outside of the area no one saw an explosion or anything that could hint at what had happened. Something is clear though, someone needs to figure it out, otherwise it might happen again.
The mystery can be anything, an eldritch god, an ancient magic. Maybe the buildings aren't melted at all, maybe the entire place was sucked into a different plane of existence and the "melted" things just didn't get teleported all the way through.
Pyramid-like structures. You know, things which are smaller at the top than the bottom. There's no way something that tapers could exist in nature.
Especially not when gravity exists and water takes the path of least resistance
There's no way rocks would tend to settle in a stable pattern, and people in ancient times figured arranging bricks in the same way would prevent them from toppling over.
It’s impossible
Mountains 🏔 ❓
@@dianewood2430 mountains don’t exist
Favorite conspiracy theorists phrases:
"It appears to be"
"It looks like"/"it doesn't look like"
"Could it be possible that..."
"What could cause (thing that has concrete explanation that caused it"
"Coincidence 🤔"
(thing that is definitely explained) "this is unexplained"
Don't forget “Could it be that....?”
"They"
“Ancient alien theorist’s theorise” like useing the word “theorise” gives credibility for whatever dribble comes after it.
Not only are conspiracy theorists wrong, but I feel like they are making some kind of logical fallacy each time they judge something by its appearance. But I don't know what that logical fallacy is.
@@faragar1791 here is a video about logical fallacies that can help ruclips.net/video/Qf03U04rqGQ/видео.html
It is amazing how the bridges of ancient advanced megalithic cities built in Arizona outlasted the much more solid buildings that the bridges connected. It's amazing how their stone bridges didn't melt like how their stone buildings melted! Truly amazing!
it's that darn ancient subcontracting
They didn't make it like they used to in 10000 BC. Now 10050 BC, that was old school craftsmanship.
Omg. I was just going through all of my RUclips Smart Downloads that I didn't know were on my phone and came across this bad boy. I remember when this was released, and it was an instant subscribe for me. I had not, and still have not ever been on TikTok, so this was my very first exposure to Milo, and I've been a follower and fan ever since. It's nice to watch a RUclipsr's first YT video that I really enjoyed, and realize that they havent changed at all, and they are still doing the exact same things as they were in the beginning, and in all of the best possible ways. I'm so glad I found Milo's channel then, and I'm proud to still be a fan and viewer today, and I really look forward to see what him and his team create in the future.
*shows sandstone*
Him: this looks like sandstone-
Us: YES
Him: -because it’s the runoff of glass
Us: NOOOOO!
SPOT. ON. 🤣
Man, from a purely "sci-fi" standpoint, this is actually a pretty cool idea. It would be much better if it had been used as part of a sci-fi type of story/world, rather than presented as a "true story" like they're doing here. I guess that's true for most conspiracy theories, lol.
Historically, good fiction usually originates conspiracy theories. The original is Atlantis, which, funnily enough, Plato tells us was made up just a few lines before he starts the interesting part everyone reads.
@@dashiellgillingham4579 I'm not sure if it's exactly in the same realm, but it reminds me of how the Radio reading of the novel War of the Worlds was mistaken for being a real news broadcast.
It's interesting how simply missing that slight bit of context can make all the difference.
@@dashiellgillingham4579 no actually he explicitly did not.
Aristotle a student of plato believed it was just a story but plato never remotely states its a story.
Actually plato gets REALLY REALLY descriptive about random details which if it was truly a politics basedl hypothetical then...yeah.
Not saying atlantis was real exactly but the amount of blatant dismissal of greek historians is kinda absurd at this point.
I mean troy, the minotaurs maze, the kraken. So many clearly fake ancient greek things thrown aside just to be found true lol
@@mondaysinsanity8193 Not to shoot down what you're saying because I actually do agree with the message, but I'm fairly certain the kraken was never even remotely considered a greek thing until they made Clash of the Titans.
@@rabidporcupine0 huh...what...was it the? Genuinely?
As someone who knows an engineer:
They literally don't give a shit. Nothing can stop them from doing their work. Trust me, I've given him multiple challenging terrains to make a sketch of the house he would build there and he did it perfectly almost every time. I mean hell, here in Serbia there's literally a house on a rock in the middle of a river. I'm not joking just look up "Kućica na Drini" (or kucica na Drini it doesn't matter)
Moral of the story: engineers are unstoppable
I can easily give something that will stop an engineer: Budget restrictions
TRUST ME, I'M AN ENGINEER
@@seighartmercury I heard bullets work too.
Tačno tako Brate, inžinjera zaustaviti ništa neće!
Alright I'll admit that house is pretty awesome lol
As someone from southern Utah, who grew up and still lives just outside of Zion National Park, the way this conspiracy theorist pronounces Zion, as "Zee-on" (rhymes with freon), is causing me physical pain. If you want to sound like a tourist, you say "Zy-on (rhymes with ion), and if you want to sound like a local, you say "Zy-in" (rhymes with lyin'). I have never heard it called "Zeeon" before today and I never want to hear it again.
It's Yiddish, which is an amalgamation of Jewish language and German. And here in Europe (Germany) we pronounce it "Zeeon".
you have to love how backwards they look at things. It's always "these look so much like this man made structure! it must be a conspiracy!" and they... don't take the two seconds to think "oh it looks this way because humans like to create things based on beauty we've seen elsewhere (especially in nature), such as these mountains that look similar".
not to mention that something with a wide base and gets progressively smaller as it gets higher, like a mountain, or a pyramid is a good way to stack things up. It's the kind of thing most people learn at about 3 years old, but apparently this guy has yet to grasp it.
also im just curious what went thru his mind when looking at clouds, "IS- IS THAT A FUCKING POODLE IN THE SKY????? AND IT JUST CHANGED INTO A FERRARRI GUYS LOOK AT THIS"
Alright, we all know that he's making this up, but can you imagine how cool this would be from a world-building perspective? A planet that got strike by massive lightning bolts across the entire world, left enormous Lichtenberg figures everywhere, and superheated it so much that the stone buildings melted. How cool is that for a premise. Honestly these conspirators should just be fiction writes with what goes on in their heads.
*Zeus' ego is insulted by the thought of this being a cool fictional idea!*
*Zeus used fury bolt!*
*It was super effective!*
Yes!!!
Go read the Cosmere by Brandon Sanderson the storm light archive has something adjacent to this. On Roshar there’s a massive storm that rotates the planet every couple days to a week and it deposits cream which is this mineral deposit that hardens into rock. One city was broken at one point and is now split up amongst a giant network of canyons and the cream has covered all the buildings so they look like natural rock formations.
It's why I have a love/hate relationship with conspiracies. They hit hard at the creative part of my brain, imaging the "what if" of these scenarios. The hate of course comes from the fact that they're undermining well understood science in the process by not admitting that they're selling works of fiction.
That's like a Soulsborne setting honestly.
We need Conspiracy Theory Bingo Cards. Love the longer format, can't wait for more.
Merch those bingo cards for real!
The middle space is “they”
@@pkmnherofan22 Crap you beat me to it!
The music in that dude's video is doing A LOT of heavy lifting too. You put that mystical piano behind pretty much anything and it starts to sound mysterious.
The fact that Disney's Atlantis' main character's name is Milo, seems like the real conspiracy to me....... lol! Great video brotha.
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Never thought of it XD
It might have inspired him to pursue this career. It's been shown that names help influence career paths.
Example: people with, "law," in their names, like Lawrence, tend to pursue jobs in the legal field.
I liked this, but I wanted to keep it at 333 likes so I unliked it
"It's as if, in our distant past, the whole world experienced rain."
I'm here for this attitude. 😂
Milo is like Indiana Jones with Han Solo’s attitude
Another glassblower here.. a pretty experienced one if I can say so myself. Yes, glass does tend to ball up when molten.. the. Problem, it has to be ELEVATED AND ROTATED! If you pour a crucible of molten glass into the ground, you know what you’re gonna get? A fucking puddle.
Also, large balls of glass would have likely exploded long ago without a proper annealing cycle.. air cooling is gonna result in much stress. Yes, a sphere is inherently strong, but stress is unavoidable without an even cooling. It’s possible that it could have been insulated by dirt or sand or something, but it’s not gonna give perfect results. Stressy pieces are liable to randomly explode months or years after being made thanks to small environmental changes. I’ve seen it myself. Many times. A piece can be set on a shelf and randomly burst into pieces for no obvious reasons.
Can you imagine giving somebody you're trying to woo a pretty glass trinket to put on their mantle, then a couple weeks later they accuse you of trying to kill them because it randomly exploded XD
Thank you for confirming my suspicions, I don't work with glass so I wasn't gonna say anything in case glass has some weird property that keeps it from following basic laws of physics but I knew something was off. Molten glass is just an extremely viscous liquid, it's gonna solidify into basically whatever shape it was already in because that's how liquids work. Unless they're arguing that the air cooled so rapidly after the "cataclysmic event" that the glass cooled into marbles while still flying through the air from the explosion/heat burst/electricity/???... And if they are then those are some GIANT marbles to be formed that way, you'd expect something closer to, well, marble-sized.
@@Marispider oh little spheres or marbes formed and cooled in the air are absolutely possible. I make em elk the time by feeding thin strands into a gas/oxy flame. They're almost perfect and solid by the time they land. These are stable.. they're just so tiny! This could probably happen on a larger scale but I can't image a natural process.. volcano Maybe? But the other issue that arises with large ones would be the overall composition.. I suppose it could be relatively heterogeneous but inclusions are another issue when you start getting larger.. did a couple little rocks end up in that blob? It's gonna pop. Even materials that were designed for inclusion aren't 100% compatible.. IE synthetic opals.. kyanite is also used sometimes. But on that note, most color isn't even 100% compatible and deeper encasement of some are a near guaranted failure. Hell even clear from different manufactures aren't a perfect match COE wise.. things vary somewhat by batch too. I've worked with the stuff for about 20 years now and spent a good portion of that time making high end specialty labware.. now I mostly make pipes on my own time. What can I say? I prefer not having to adhere to sub millimeter tolerances.. anyway, point is, I wouldn't expect any naturally occurring glass spheres to exist for very long.. or exist in that size at all. I could see fist or baseball size ones being the largest really feasible.
Love the way you work you are a great debunker
And the you tube videos are great keep it up
We would have remarkably less conspiracy theorists if people look at a river once or twice
Damn, you really just told the conspiracy theorists 'go touch grass' and you were 100% correct.
Bah, rivers are just channels for the chi extracted from children by the Illuminati in order to power their black magic
Problem with that is then they’ll start saying water was brought here from Mars by catpeople and rivers were made by them to make the humans mine gold or something.
@@Adelei42069 Would you like to know about Happy Science, the religion where Satan is a alien catboy?
@@EndymionThemightyMasterofMagic I was referencing Happy Science! Funny you should say that!
This video's a master class in the phrase "correlation does not equal causation."
A pile of rock is no more a house than a pile of fact a science
Funny how this universal melting event absolutely destroyed immense structures larger than anything built by humans, but left a lot of extremely intricate pyramids that we also have unmelted records of how those unmelted structures were made.
You would think we would have no intact pyramids if this event happened. Also those nice rock layer lines would be more melted and wobbly.
Like I said, aliens made these pyramids. Keep up please
Shit already came out do your homework research yourself you will find the answers you're asking I'm only asking who's responsible for melting all these buildings
@@mimomali8266
jesus™.
jesus™ did it.
@@satanicmicrochipv5656 😂 with his melting Maschine?
If you take your left earbud out alphatalkz starts to make sense
You know... almost every consciparicy theory sounds like a cool idea for a fictional story. Like, a civilization built over the melted remains of an ancient one? That sounds awesome.
Too bad most people who come up with these ideas also seem to believe it's true. And have for literal centuries. Just look at the crazy guy who came up with the continent of Mu
That’s basically what the og lore for Assassins creed is.
I love some pieces of fiction that use "ancient lost continents" as a setting. People can do sciency magic and battle reptilians all they want in that fantasy.
People fall for their own bs all the time, that's how we got scientology. A scifi writer who was like "wait... This is REEAL!" 🤦♂️
AlternateHistoryHub did a great video on What If Mu Existed a little while ago. I highly recommend watching it because it's pretty interesting (after watching it, I'm highly fascinated about guy who invented Mu as well and need to look up some videos on him...)
@@Javierm0n0 I don't think the writer/founder buys any of his own bullshit. He's using it for monetary gain, to unfortunately wild success.
Honestly the reason the electricity and erosion patterns look similar is probably because electricity in wood takes the past of least resistance much like how wind rain and the resulting rainwater rundown in the path of least resistance.
It's almost like processes can have similarities
As a Geologist…I-I just can’t. Literally everything this conspiracy theorist came up with had a geological explanation. I am pretty sure I’m walking away with a few brain cells missing.
yeah but didn't you ever think that MAYBE you were just LIED to at your college you paid multiple thousands of dollars for? and that everything they told you was actually fake and totally the buildings melted. THEY just don't want you to know about these wacky melted buildings dudeeee
I just hope it didn't give me brain cancer...
@@khallrikIt absolutely gave me a migraine.
Do you want my last two?
@@VarietyPuppets Do you not want them?
I was looking through some of your older content to see if there were any videos I had missed, and lo and behold, I found this treasure! While I was watching it, my 6-year-old came in and the following exchange happened:
6: "Who's that?"
Me: "That's Milo, he uses science to correct people when they're wrong about things."
6: "He seems mad. Why is he mad?"
Me: "Because that other guy is saying things that are not true, and that's upsetting."
- we watch the video and get to the end -
6: "Mom, can you subscribe? I feel bad for this guy." [meaning Milo]
Me: "I've been subscribed for years. Why do you feel bad for him?"
6: "Because he's gotta deal with this guy saying stupid, wrong things."
Me: "Yeeeaaahhhh..... That's unfortunately just what it's like to be any kind of scientist nowadays, honey. 😅"
Milo, you have my 6-year-old's deepest sympathies. 😂
I found one as a child and thought it might be a dinosaur egg, so my parents sent it to the University of Oklahoma. That is when I learned about concretions and how they form like a pearl
That's really cool!
TIL about concretions! TY!
@@silvestrisvita Found one on a beach trip a while back that had formed on an old piece of scrap iron. They are, indeed, VERY cool!
The first time I saw this video I was taken aback, because this was actually a theory I came up with... When I was 6 or 7. My grandparents have a camp on an island off the northeast coast, and I noticed that some of the stones looked almost like weathered bricks. I had heard stories about Atlantis and such, and I knew that there were several different Native American tribes that may have lived out there, back when it was connected by a land bridge, so I thought maybe it used to be a city that had been weathered away (though I knew what erosion was from learning about the grand canyon so my thought was more that it had slowly deteriorated from the sea and been covered up.) It was really funny to me to see a grown adult come up with and fully believe a more outlandish version of something I came up with when I was 7.
Lmfao I’ve probably had a similar theory as a kid. That’s what gets me about this shit. People who know just as much about something as a literal child will have a stupid idea and be like “I’m an adult, therefore my opinion is valid”
"Imagine a city that looked like Atlantis..."
Pretty sure that's all we can do, considering nobody knows what Atlantis looked like... and all of this aside from the fact that it probably never even existed in the first place.
4 lines of written description are clear enough
more interesting is the two paragraphs describing the location and end.
I'll just say it's probably not where you think it is
I do remember watching a TV show that made a pretty compelling case for one of the Mediterranean islands/archipelagoes being "Atlantis"
Nowadays the soil is pretty poor and there's not much there, but there are ruins buried under volcanic ash of a decently-sized city and if you dig down, there's a thick layer of volcanic debris, stone, and ash, then under there are signs of tremendously fertile soil. And there's traces of more islands/land, sunken down.
It used to be a circular island/archipelago, the lip of a large caldera, just poking out the waves, with openings that meant it was a very safe natural harbour as well. So it would have been fertile, a safe harbour, and on several likely trade routes - likely very wealthy (and thus advanced as well). But then the volcano went boom, destroyed the cities and the land, sank part of the island/archipelago and made the harbour slightly less good, but still pretty decent.
@@jeffhousen8968 Literally what does this mean bro
@@samuelmellars7855 yeah, I heard about Santorini Island before. It probably was one of Plato's inspiration. Seriously, the only reason Atlantis is still a mystery is because people believe there is still a mystery. When you know a bit about plato, you quickly understand it was another thought experiment, like when he wrote "the Republic".
@@samuelmellars7855 yeah, I heard about Santorini Island before. It probably was one of Plato's inspiration. Seriously, the only reason Atlantis is still a mystery is because people believe there is still a mystery. When you know a bit about plato, you quickly understand it was another thought experiment, like when he wrote "the Republic".
Omg, you literally are doing what I want to do. Keep doing this. It’s funny, informative and desperately needed 🙌🏼
i love when conspiracy theorists either point at or hide behind a vague hypothetical “they” because my immediate mental image is just a large group of non-binary people
Shh don't tell them about us!! We need to stay invisible until the next Visibility Day, and the melted buildings are where we derive our invisibility makeup from!!
Conspiracy theory= enby agenda
as a nonbinary person, I can assure you that yes, we *are* behid every conspiracy on earth. just for the heck of it. asexuals are gonna take over Canada, and nonbinary people are going... to... melt the Earth, apparently (as a non-binary asexual, I'm very busy; so many conspiracies)
@@yurier.7544 wait we are taking over canada? Shit i thought we were taking over chile!
@@generalgrievous2202 there's some of us who're taking over Denmark, too.
I guess it's a matter of personal preference.
Every time I see a conspiracy like this I just think, “wow, that would be a really cool creation myth for a fantasy world”.
These guys should just write books, the wrath of the gods melting and reshaping the world leaving behind molten ruins sounds awesome.
These conspiracy theorists seriously missed their true calling as fiction authors (not that they aren't already)
honestly, great idea! ive been struggling with creation myths for my own fantasy world, ty for da help internet stranger
There's lore kinda similar to that in Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic. On Tatooine you can learn about an ancient orbital bombardment that turned most all of the surface of Tatooine to glass. Over time the glass got ground down into the sand that comprises Tatooines great deserts
I desperately want to write a fantasy book where the world was destroyed in a war between the gods, leaving behind shattered ruins and a landscape made unrecognizable by storms and lightning, and though mankind has managed to eke out a living in this post-apocalyptic land, someone is vying to restart the war that destroyed everything.
They should really go the L. Ron Hubbard route. Obviously besides the space cult and authoritarian aspect, of course.
These ancient buildings sure must have looked stupid before the electricity event, all being solid rock and having no characteristics of actual buildings for humans to live in or use.
Does he think that pyramids were just... solid stone all the way through?
It's like you have never seen a ghost temple before. Imagine thinking that ghosts need doors and rooms. You sound like a crazy person
@@JeepnHeel - Lol! My bad!
Absolutely enjoyable. Had a lovely time watching, and the important part at the end really made me satisfied. Thanks for protecting our scientific communities.
As a catholic, I loved the way you debunked his use of scripture. Most of us believe that scripture is spiritual, not scientific. It’s only a few who make us look bad by believing it is science.
Protestants mostly
@@parjai97 And not just protestants, evangelical protestants who got their start in the 18th century. Literalist interpretation of the Bible is a rather new phenomenon, with little (altough some) basis in the history of biblical interpretation.
EDIT: not only that, he is cherrypicking Bible verses and trying to reinterpret them into things that have nothing to do with the context of the said verses. The verse he's quoting refers to Jerusalem. Not a naturla formation in North America. God have mercy...
@@1sanitat1 reject virgin US protestants, embrace chad archaic greek mythos
@@1sanitat1 Literalism within the study of scripture has led to such an unfortunately rigid perspective on these texts, and partly why I think so many have turned away from it. I hate when people talk about things from the Bible as if it were all supposed to be taken literally. Not only is the meaning and intended teaching lost, but it also paints a really obscured picture of the people who wrote and ascribed to those texts originally. Metaphorical writing didn't suddenly appear in the 1700s, every scripture has its own background that has been lost to time due to mistranslation, changing turns of phrase, societal understandings, etc.
Literalists get and die from trumpler virus more than anyone else because they don’t think they OBEY