DIY Mill Vice Speed Handle in Cast Aluminium

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  • Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024

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  • @KarlBunker
    @KarlBunker 3 года назад +9

    "Lollypop red -- you know I'm right."
    Yup; no argument from me! 😄

  • @matthewhelton1725
    @matthewhelton1725 3 года назад +2

    "Damn"... the most often used word in the shop (Followed by many other words containing four letters)... using repurposed socket to pin into the casting is a solid plan. Excellent Video, Mark!

  • @dale9896
    @dale9896 3 года назад +3

    Wow Mark, you had all my favorite's, bit of lathe work, some metal casting and powder coating! Well done sir.

  • @DavidKutzler
    @DavidKutzler 3 года назад

    I was inspired when I watched this a few weeks ago and made a speed handle for my own vice. My small hobby machine shop doesn't have sufficient room to accommodate casting, so I machined the cast part out of a length of stainless steel bar stock and pressed the sockets in with a good interference fit. I was concerned that socket would rotate when I cranked down on it, but it seems robust enough. I was able to get a near mirror finish on the stainless steel parts.

    • @Preso58
      @Preso58  3 года назад

      Stainless would be way more durable than the cast aluminium. A few days ago I stupidly dropped my handle and chipped the powder coat. The cast aluminium remains soft for some time after casting too. It gradually age hardens but it's possible to do a T5 heat treatment on it.
      Regards,
      Mark

  • @swdweeb
    @swdweeb 3 года назад +5

    Love the color. That’s a sweet tool. I was only mildly offended when you called that feeder a riser 😄

    • @Preso58
      @Preso58  3 года назад +1

      That was for you!
      Regards,
      Mark.

  • @nathaniellangston5130
    @nathaniellangston5130 3 года назад +1

    I literally started designing one of these at work yesterday!! I can't believe the impeccable timing of your video!! I might just steal your idea for inserting the sockets!

    • @Preso58
      @Preso58  3 года назад

      Go for it!
      Regards,
      Mark

  • @sandrammer
    @sandrammer 3 года назад

    Whether you call it a feeder or a riser it still does the same job. We were taught to call it a riser in the Navy. Love the color, good casting!

    • @Preso58
      @Preso58  3 года назад

      Thanks for that. I feel like I am starting to get the hang of this whole casting thing! 🤣
      Regards,
      Mark

  • @JamesDedmon
    @JamesDedmon 3 года назад +1

    Looks good, I’ve had a homemade speed handle for several years now. I made mine out of billet aluminum and sockets also. The biggest difference is I used a press fit, and locking compound. Never had an issue with it

    • @Preso58
      @Preso58  3 года назад

      I was wondering if an interference fit would prevent the loctite from forming a thick enough film to work. The ultimate would be to have a very fine spline on the socket and then press it in.
      Regards,
      Mark

  • @petergamache5368
    @petergamache5368 3 года назад +4

    "Measure twice. Cut once" ... reminds me of Murphy's Law of Decreasing Accuracy: Measure with mic, mark with chalk, cut with axe!

    • @henrychan720
      @henrychan720 3 года назад

      Manual machining more like measure 5 times cut 5 times and still overshoot.

    • @nathaniellangston5130
      @nathaniellangston5130 3 года назад

      I just saved that quote!!! That is FANTASTIC!!

  • @howder1951
    @howder1951 3 года назад +1

    Beautiful end result, I should try making one of those. The powder coat turned out lovely and the whole process was very interesting. Cheers!

  • @yourserenity
    @yourserenity Год назад

    You can also get Personalized Speed-Handle for Vise from ebay, those have been made in the UK and one off pieces.

  • @mikemichelizzi2023
    @mikemichelizzi2023 3 года назад

    Try as I might I just couldn't ignore that other casting... I could see myself making this with both sockets extending the same amount and being disappointed when trying it out for the first time. Great work!

    • @Preso58
      @Preso58  3 года назад +1

      You don't know how close I came to cutting both sockets really short. I left one intact just to show the process of cutting it down for the video and it's amazing how your plans change when you don't rush headlong into the first course of action. Whew!
      Regards,
      Mark

  • @TomMakeHere
    @TomMakeHere 3 года назад

    Love the powder coating finish it really looks awesome

    • @Preso58
      @Preso58  3 года назад

      Thanks Tom. I don't know why but I am now receiving comments that are months old that I didn't know about. RUclips is now telling me that they have "fixed an issue"? Who knows! Yes, the powder coat looks very slick and on the right substrate it has tiny silver flecks in it that make it sparkle. Maybe too much bling for a workshop tool.
      Regards,
      Mark

  • @roylucas1027
    @roylucas1027 3 года назад

    Watching that video was the most fun I've had all week. Thank you.

  • @jdmccorful
    @jdmccorful 3 года назад

    Great product! Love the birds in the background noise. Thanks.

  • @MrJohnnaz
    @MrJohnnaz 3 года назад

    Looks almost exactly like the three I made from solid stock. Two for me and one for a friend. Just recently black anodized my two, have to get my friends back, to anodize his as well.

    • @Preso58
      @Preso58  3 года назад

      One thing I should have mentioned is that I don't have a lot of good quality solid stock to make this sort of tool from. Plus, I like making castings. But, an anodised finish would look pretty good. I have a really nice copper dye that works great.
      Regards,
      Mark

    • @MrJohnnaz
      @MrJohnnaz 3 года назад

      @@Preso58 Where are you getting your dyes from?

    • @Preso58
      @Preso58  3 года назад

      @@MrJohnnaz I get mine from an Australian company called Caswell www.caswellplating.com.au/store/store.php/products/copper-bf-anodizing-dye

  • @andrewdolinskiatcarpathian
    @andrewdolinskiatcarpathian 3 года назад

    Oh to have a green sand foundry and powder coating machine! 🥴 The handle came out beautifully 👏👏👍😀

    • @Preso58
      @Preso58  3 года назад

      Be warned! Foundry work is a very deep rabbit hole. I fear that I will never learn enough to make good repeatable castings.
      Regards,
      Mark

  • @erikklaus3937
    @erikklaus3937 3 года назад

    Wow, this was an amazing video to watch!
    When I saw it on my recommended I was wondering how you'd do the pattern - 3D-printing it is a fabulous idea!
    That Speed Handle came out beautifully, the colour is just perfect! Watching you build this tool was a pleasure! Thank you so much for uploading this! I'm already excited for the video where you show how you manufactured the handle!
    Greetings from Austria, Erik

    • @Preso58
      @Preso58  3 года назад +2

      Erik, what did we do before 3D printers were a thing? I first saw one back in about 2005 and I thought it was some sort of Sc-Fi magic. Unfortunately, the one that I saw was an industrial SLS model and it was worth around $1,000,000. By 2010 the first affordable desktop models were being rolled out in Australia. We were able to purchase one for the school that I was working at an overnight it revolutionised the way we could carry out R&D in the school. With that machine and a laser cutter/engraver you can rapid prototype just about anything.
      Regards,
      Mark

    • @erikklaus3937
      @erikklaus3937 3 года назад

      @@Preso58 Thanks for your reply! My idea on how the pattern would have been made is to make the bosses for the handles on the lathe and the main body would be drawn my hand on a paper template and then transferred to the wood and then with a offset another mark to cut the wood our and then file/sand the draft angle. The bosses then would be glued/screwed onto the main body.
      My experience with 3d printers started with a university tour in probably somewhen 2010 too - they had an industrial sls printer for about 100.000 euros. They also had an amazing cnc mill with a extended delta movement with 5 or 6 cylinders. I also thought that 3d printers were amazing. My interest in them started when cheap ones from china gained traction - original prusas and anet printers... I wasn't allowed to have one since I didn't have the place for one nor a real use. But then in 2019 my dad got a 3d printer - but it doesn't do much than some fun stuff. And yeah, with a 3D printer, a router/mill, lathe and laser one can almost prototype anything.
      Greetings,
      Erik

  • @Dwarfracer88
    @Dwarfracer88 3 года назад +12

    You reckon the hex on the vise screw might be 9/16"

    • @simongroot7147
      @simongroot7147 3 года назад +1

      It is a Kurt, so most likely it is....

    • @blooVZSS
      @blooVZSS 3 года назад +2

      14.6mm is pretty much 9/16’s, dunno how Preso missed that ?

    • @skunkjobb
      @skunkjobb 3 года назад +1

      @@simongroot7147 No it's not. He said "Kurt style" and the actual brand is Vertex.

    • @rok1475
      @rok1475 3 года назад +1

      @@blooVZSS 9/16 will fit but is tight to a point you cannot just quickly slide the socket in and out.
      Also, finding imperial sockets outside North America may not be easy.

    • @blooVZSS
      @blooVZSS 3 года назад +1

      @Ro K, I agree with your first point. As for getting AF sockets in Oz, I’m Aussie and a mechanic and I assure you that imperial tools and fasteners are very common down here.

  • @MattysWorkshop
    @MattysWorkshop 3 года назад

    Gday Preso, I have the same problem with my vertex vice, I really like the design and the colour just finishes it off beautifully, if you ever another poor and make another one I’d be very interested in purchasing one off you for sure, very nice mate, thanks for sharing, cheers Matty

    • @Preso58
      @Preso58  3 года назад +1

      Matty, I have a lot of casting coming up. New project will require a lot of decorative bits. SWDweeb and I are also looking at upgrading our foundry burners to use diesel fuel and if it works out it will be a lot quicker to melt alloy. I'll run one off for you next time I'd doing some small bits. ps: I got your second set of stickers. 😀
      Regards,
      Mark

  • @windyhillfoundry5940
    @windyhillfoundry5940 3 года назад

    Great job Mark, I know some machinist that love to beat down on the handle with a sledge hammer so keep those guys out of your shop👍

    • @Preso58
      @Preso58  3 года назад

      Thanks Clarke. I've still got the gorilla handle as a backup in case Abom79 turns up! 🤣
      Regards,
      Mark

  • @CapeCodCNC
    @CapeCodCNC 3 года назад +4

    Hmmm measure twice cut once.... well I measured 6 times, maybe more, before I cut my Y axis for the DRO and it still came out 1" short. Now I need a scale stretcher....DOH!

    • @Preso58
      @Preso58  3 года назад +1

      Oh no! There's an inch of travel you won't get back. Reminds me of that description. "A hacksaw is a device for cutting materials too short".
      Regards,
      Mark

    • @CapeCodCNC
      @CapeCodCNC 3 года назад

      @@Preso58 nothing money can't fix....wish I had some.....

  • @Engineerd3d
    @Engineerd3d 3 года назад

    Mark that is a beautiful piece. Wow.

  • @mchiodox69
    @mchiodox69 3 года назад

    Very cool. The red is a very good choice I think!

    • @Preso58
      @Preso58  3 года назад

      Yes, I like it. I have a lime green lollypop finish too. They look best on polished aluminium. The sexiest one is a red transparent with a sparkle in it as well.
      Regards,
      Mark

  • @TheDistur
    @TheDistur 3 года назад

    Cool project. Looks like a good handle.

    • @Preso58
      @Preso58  3 года назад +1

      Thanks 👍

  • @TheKnacklersWorkshop
    @TheKnacklersWorkshop 3 года назад

    Hi Mark,
    A good design and implementation...
    Take care.
    Paul,,

  • @ikeurb
    @ikeurb 3 года назад

    Nice work Mark! I am working on repairing an old wheel type three handle speed handle for my vise. Yours looks way better though. Plus you have the satisfaction of making it yourself from scratch. 😍

    • @Preso58
      @Preso58  3 года назад +1

      Ike, I did consider making one of those three handle types a bit like the feed handle on my drill press. Secretly though, I need to work on my casting technique any chance I can get.
      Regards,
      Mark

    • @ikeurb
      @ikeurb 3 года назад

      @@Preso58 Absolutley. Building a casting furnace is in my list for awhile now. I hope to get it started eventually. The day job and family time are pretty consuming.🤣

  • @bones357
    @bones357 3 года назад

    You've right to be excited, that's a great result!!👊😄

    • @Preso58
      @Preso58  3 года назад

      Oh yeah!
      Regards,
      Mark

  • @westweld
    @westweld 3 года назад

    Hi Mark I've been enjoying your videos lately they have been helping me with some of my projects I'd like to give you a mention in one of my up coming videos if thats ok........the vise handle turned out great

    • @Preso58
      @Preso58  3 года назад

      Mention away! That would be great.
      Regards,
      Mark

  • @olfoundryman8418
    @olfoundryman8418 3 года назад

    Yep, I know the colour looks nice but - really - painting such a nice looking casting - sacrilege!
    I will send you an email showing something similar - a cast aluminium double ended spanner with the Hexs cast in place using metal hex core pieces pressed out afterwards worked very well and spanner still going strong... Martin

    • @Preso58
      @Preso58  3 года назад +1

      Is it a nice looking casting? Really? Have I joined the foundryman's hall of fame? I didn't know you could use metal cores. Maybe I'm not worthy. 😃
      Regards,
      Mark

  • @metalworksmachineshop
    @metalworksmachineshop 3 года назад

    looks good Mark..

  • @craigtate5930
    @craigtate5930 3 года назад

    Great color choice.

  • @argee55
    @argee55 3 года назад

    Well done sir. Looking forward to part 2.

  • @RaptorMachineToolCo
    @RaptorMachineToolCo 3 года назад

    Looks great Mark !!

  • @OllieVK
    @OllieVK 3 года назад

    Weld a decent sized washer sideways to the head of the screws you're using to draw the pattern out, and just put one in the middle boss, use a bit of ~3/8-1/2" rod as a handle and lift.
    No need at all for the swirly vent thing on the end of your runner bar, just continue it past the gate a few inches is enough. The dross will flow past.
    Still need to work on your riser design, your gates aren't designed to feed.
    Also, for the size castings you're making you don't need to worry about a pouring bowl, just cut a cone at the top of the sprue.

    • @olfoundryman8418
      @olfoundryman8418 3 года назад

      Oliver, As a metallurgist and student of modern developments a la John Campbell et al, plus over 60 years’ experience in various foundries including my own I feel compelled to put my 2 cents worth in here.
      I am guessing from your comment that whatever you “know” about foundry came from either a very “stagnant” establishment or the plethora of the equally backward foundry books out there - Ah, the 6000-year-old technology rears its ugly head yet again.
      No need for the complexity of washers welded onto screws and rods as handles etc. A sharp pointed screw on its own is the easiest, but I do agree that just the one screw would be better as it avoids one’s hands fighting each other.
      Simply taking the runner past the gate is no guarantee of freedom from dross as stream momentum on impact with the blunt runner end can cause a back surge to spurt through the gate, dross and all. I tend not to use spin traps (but I should) as the design is still uncertain and I often do not have the space to fit them in. Instead, I taper the runner end to avoid a sudden stop. However, even this tapered end is not as good as a spin trap, and unfortunately can give a dangerously sharp end on the solid runner, so one has to be careful on knockout.
      Presso’s feeder design is excellent - right where I would have put it. It is a hot metal feeder. The short gate plus the large thermal mass of the feeder guarantees that the gate will still be at least sufficiently liquid to provide a viable feed path at least until the casting proper is solid.
      One could have adopted a belt and braces approach with this casting by providing a feeder atop each end as well. This would have made for a poor yield. Alternatively (and better) the ends could have been lightened out with self-coring divots. But Presso chose to rely on the end effect to keep these areas solid - a technique that by the look of the casting does seem to have worked well!
      Your suggestion to use a cone atop the sprue is about as bad as advice gets! This constitutes what Bob Puhakka calls the “conical devil” - a metal stream entering such a cone pulls in air in about the same volume as the metal poured. The idea of pulling say, 250 cc of air into a 250 cc casting does not fill me with great joy. The offset ridged pouring basin atop a suitably small tapered sprue is one of the best ways of avoiding air aspiration and undue turbulence with all its problems. The calm, quiet casting fill you get with this system is a joy to behold. It is also easy and cheap to use - no casting should be made without it - large or small!.... Martin

    • @OllieVK
      @OllieVK 3 года назад

      ​@@olfoundryman8418 I run a foundry bud, what I know is from 18 years practical experience, and not just text book theory. We do everything from aluminium to bronze to steel to stainless to cast iron.
      You get just as many issues with low velocity and initial cold front of metal from going from the basin into the job as you do with just filling the job up. He's not making aerospace parts here after all.
      You can see that there is not enough velocity to push metal all the way up the small third vent, which it should easily do.

  • @AmateurRedneckWorkshop
    @AmateurRedneckWorkshop 3 года назад

    Great build and it looks good too.

    • @Preso58
      @Preso58  3 года назад

      Thanks 👍
      Regards,
      Mark

  • @luckygen1001
    @luckygen1001 3 года назад

    Have you ever considered casting those hex sockets in the handle and then you don't have to glue them in? Years ago i used a steel pin that was polished to a mirror finish to make a core for a aluminium pulley. The problem was it would not come out even though it had a mirror finish. Using steel inserts in aluminium castings can make aluminium castings far more useful because it can be a weak and soft metal.

    • @Preso58
      @Preso58  3 года назад

      Bill, I have decided to try another version of this casting. Martin West has convinced me to have a go at using some hex steel cores to cast the correct hexagonal shape into the finished casting. He has suggested using a graphite wash to coat the hex steel cores so they will press out after the casting has cooled. I don't have access to the graphite spray on wash that he uses but I thought that a slurry of graphite and alcohol might work. I want to try using a T5 heat treatment as well. If it all fails it will at least teach me what won't work. I didn't think about casting the sockets into the original handle. I did think that with differential shrinkage it might split the casting bosses or perhaps just allow the sockets to spin in their cast in bores. The ideal would be to spline the outside of the sockets and then cast them in.
      There was also the issue of being able to powder coat the finished handle separately from the chrome finish on the sockets. I am very keen to see if the T5 heat treatment gives a better and stronger handle.
      Regards,
      Mark

    • @luckygen1001
      @luckygen1001 3 года назад

      @@Preso58 I shall look forward to that video.

  • @PatFarrellKTM
    @PatFarrellKTM 3 года назад

    Love the candy red finish.

  • @joehosie
    @joehosie 3 года назад

    Wow Mark! Great video yet again!

  • @richardgalli7262
    @richardgalli7262 3 года назад

    Well done sir and I like it!

    • @Preso58
      @Preso58  3 года назад

      Thank you! Cheers!
      Regards,
      Mark

  • @oxwilder
    @oxwilder 3 года назад

    Thanks for the video! It occurred to me to wonder if you could have ground some flats onto the socket and then cast it into the handle, although I guess some metallurgical black magic involving different thermal expansion and contraction could have killed it.

    • @Preso58
      @Preso58  3 года назад +2

      My casting guru, Olfoundryman has just let me know that you can use hex shaped metal cores and cast the hex directly into the handle. Now I have another technique to try.
      I am thinking that if the sockets had a fine spline cut into them they could be pressed in and they'd never move.
      Regards,
      Mark

  • @MichaelMacGyver
    @MichaelMacGyver 3 года назад

    I'm interacting to show my support for the channel.

  • @dwightcarlson7136
    @dwightcarlson7136 3 года назад

    Could you have filled the sockets with sand (first roughened their exteriors) and then put them into the mold and cast the metal around them? Maybe too hard to get them lined up perpendicular the axis of rotation? Or would it also ruin the heat treatment of the sockets?
    Very nice design and execution.👍👍

    • @Preso58
      @Preso58  3 года назад

      You can absolutely do it that way and it does work. I haven't tried it but I heard from Luckygen1001 who has a lot more experience than I have and he suggested a similar method.
      Regards,
      Mark

  • @BravoCharleses
    @BravoCharleses 3 года назад +1

    Why cut the casting for a sliding fit? Wouldn't an interference fit be easier?
    I feel like I've asked this before but can't remember the answer. Won't there be a bare spot on the part where the hook was during powder coating? Do you have to go back and do a second coat and move the hook to another location to get full coverage of at least one coat?

    • @Preso58
      @Preso58  3 года назад +1

      I find that if you want to rely on loctite as a means of keeping parts in place you need to have some clearance for the adhesive film to bond. I was worried that even if I was able to get a good interference fit it might still be able to spin the socket in the bore with sufficient torque. Probably a fine splined finish on the socket would solve that problem but it's already hardened and chromed so that was sort of out of the question. I am thinking that the socket head screws are insurance.
      The hook can be a problem if it fits closely against the part. There's often a bit of fiddling to get the hook to hold the part without actually touching the faces. A sort of "U" shape is best. If you do notice a bare spot you can swap the hook to another hole and give it another shot with the powder. Sometimes it can be very difficult to work out a way of handling the part and getting it into the oven without wiping off the powder.
      Regards,
      Mark

  • @johnd.crofts7901
    @johnd.crofts7901 3 года назад +1

    Nice video and project. I was wondering if 9/16" hex sockets would have fit better?

    • @Preso58
      @Preso58  3 года назад +1

      No, the vice is definitely metric. It is a Kurt clone made for the Australian market. I did try my imperial sockets but none would fit.
      Regards,
      Mark

  • @misterbreakit2006
    @misterbreakit2006 3 года назад +1

    I realise casting is more fun, but wouldn't it have been easier to machine the handle out of a piece of 3/8" flat stock, like Jason from Fireball Tool did for his vice build? He did the same sort of thing

    • @Preso58
      @Preso58  3 года назад

      Martin, If only I had lots of billet aluminium stock lying around. My son lives in Wellington, New Zealand. He works at a large engineering facility and they have racks of offcuts in brass, bronze, alloy steels and all grades of aluminium. I think he wanted to torture me by telling me that when the racks get full they just toss it in a skip and send it all to the recyclers. I hate to think how much it would cost me in overweight baggage if I filled up my suitcase. However, the real reason I made the casting is because I like making castings.
      Regards,
      Mark

    • @misterbreakit2006
      @misterbreakit2006 3 года назад

      @@Preso58 , that's what I figured :D Greatly enjoyed the vid.

  • @sheph7ceo799
    @sheph7ceo799 3 года назад

    well done, impressive, I would have bet real money that in-use the sockets would rotate. Yes has to be red... but could have used a lightening bolt and still needs a name plate with date.

    • @Preso58
      @Preso58  3 года назад

      Well, I won't be loaning it to Abom79 and I'm a 120 pound weakling so it's safe with me. I have some refinements to do on the handle so stand by!
      Regards,
      Mark

    • @sheph7ceo799
      @sheph7ceo799 3 года назад

      @@Preso58 I recently used ink-jet printed water slide decals for labels. After installation a top clear coat seems to make them very durable. While they are waaaaaay less fancy and require almost no skill com-pared to your typical approaches you might consider them.

    • @Preso58
      @Preso58  3 года назад

      @@sheph7ceo799 I have some of those inkjet printable water slide decal sheets. We used to use them to make decals for the F1 in Schools competition. Towards the end of the time I was involved we got really good an making them look seamless. We used white paper so we could leave white areas on the decals and then colour matched the background to the base colour of the car. After applying the decals we took the cars to a spraypainter who clear coated them for us in 2K finish. I still have one of the last cars we made (we made three plus a 200% scale display car). One day I might feature it in one of my videos.
      Regards,
      Mark

  • @gregsmith2262
    @gregsmith2262 3 года назад +1

    It's always better to put it in the hole. There was movement when you pulled that out the oven!

  • @BretBerger
    @BretBerger 3 года назад

    Beautiful Mark.

  • @jadymulqueeney
    @jadymulqueeney 2 года назад

    Brilliant thanks

  • @ormundwilliams8065
    @ormundwilliams8065 3 года назад

    Is this an ANSI approved colour for a machine tool? oh, NZ uses ISO. :)
    Thanks for the pointer to Touch DRO (from a previous video). I found a tablet I got for 'Free' with my last phone contract
    so instead of more e-waste I'll install a DRO on my friend's J.

  • @clayz1
    @clayz1 2 года назад

    The best solution, if you were to ask me, and in a way you did (thanks), is to shorten the stock handle and then just use it like that. Well, you may want to burr the sawnend. When you want to open or close the vise quickly you get good at holding the handle such that it speeds how many turns you can make in a short amount of time. Very convenient and it won’t run into the Y-axis ways. This is not new to anybody. I do understand that want to go thru the whole process to your ends, which I enjoy. Always nice work. At any rate: 👉 Handled.

    • @Preso58
      @Preso58  2 года назад

      I did consider doing just that but I also wanted to keep the original handle just in case I ever really needed to crank it really tight or "unloosen" it as Joe Pi would say.
      Regards,
      Mark

  • @rallymax2
    @rallymax2 3 года назад

    Lollipop is awesome.
    I’m surprised you had a sloppy socket (childish giggling). My Kurt is 3/4” tooling and there is no play with any socket (19mm or 3/4”) or spanner (wwwwwrench with USA accent). I use the same ratcheting 3/4” closed end wrench on the Kurt and the drawbar and the hold down clamps.
    ‘Good to be catching up on your videos.

    • @Preso58
      @Preso58  3 года назад

      Thanks. The Vertex brand of vice we get here in Australia is a metric copy of the Kurt style vice and I tried all the sockets I had in both metric and AF but the 15mm was the only one that fitted. The measurement across the flats is a bit less than 15mm but at least I don't have to fight it to get the socket on and off.
      Regards,
      Mark

  • @thefixerofbrokenstuff
    @thefixerofbrokenstuff 3 года назад

    I aint no foundryman, but could the sockets have been roughed up a little, preheated, and cast into the handle like a core?

    • @Preso58
      @Preso58  3 года назад

      Maybe but a better solution would be to cut a fine spline into the outside of the socket and then press it in to the bored hole. I didn't want to powder coat the sockets so they sort of had to go in last and with differential shrinkage rates trying to cast the sockets in might be a problem. There's probably room for experimentation there but for now I'm happy with how it turned out.
      Regards,
      Mark

  • @somebodyelse6673
    @somebodyelse6673 3 года назад +1

    Are those chrome plated sockets? No need to take off the chrome or rough up the OD for loctite?

    • @rok1475
      @rok1475 3 года назад

      It is more critical for the surface to be clean ( degreased) than rough when using Locktite.
      If you look at the chrome-plated surface with a microscope you will see the surface is quite rough.
      Even gage block is not that smooth when magnified 50x :-)

    • @Preso58
      @Preso58  3 года назад +1

      It was a sort of satin chrome so it would have some surface roughness. I am really hoping that the socket head grub screws will do most of the heavy lifting to keep the sockets from turning in the bores.
      Regards,
      Mark

  • @osgeld
    @osgeld 3 года назад +2

    we have a honest to god kurt vice on a 1940's bridgeport at work in the maintance shop, it has the same problem

  • @DavidPlass
    @DavidPlass 3 года назад

    Beautiful!

  • @billawad154
    @billawad154 3 года назад

    Once again great project. I'm from Sydney and I'm starting to get into casting so I was wondering if it's possible to do a video on casting especially the formulation of the sand and where to obtain the ingredients locally that would be very helpful. Thank you.

    • @Preso58
      @Preso58  3 года назад +1

      Bill, I should let you know that I have only started the whole foundry thing in the last 8 years or so. It's a bit of a hobby and I am by no means a specialist. I can highly recommend Olfoundryman as a resource ruclips.net/channel/UC90RoN_IjSRF18jAG0HIA6g. he lives in Melbourne as does Luckygen1001 ruclips.net/channel/UCUfvmfsw2tH79cd13u_lbpw. Both are highly experienced and they will have some information to help you.
      The greensand that I use is made from fine white silica sand from Ballina and I purchased the bentonite clay from a rural supplier. I got a 20kg bag from them. It is sold as a dam sealer. I mixed the sand/bentonite at a ratio of about 90% sand and 10% bentonite. The bentonite I bought was a bit lumpy so I ran it through an old blender first so that it turns to a consistency like cornflour.
      Good luck with your foundry adventures.
      Regards,
      Mark

    • @billawad154
      @billawad154 3 года назад

      @@Preso58 thank you. That's greatly appreciated.

  • @slypig24
    @slypig24 3 года назад

    Mark, what are your thoughts about casting a shorter length, for the original vice handle? Would aluminium be strong enough?

    • @Preso58
      @Preso58  3 года назад +1

      I guess it would depend on the exact length. The shorter you made it, the less torque you could apply to the swivel joint. The alloy I am using is 601 which can be hardened to a T6 treatment but that's beyond the scope of what I can do in my own shop. Apparently, T5 is doable and it gives high strength.
      Regards,
      Mark

  • @anonymousgeorge4321
    @anonymousgeorge4321 3 года назад

    Beautiful.

  • @Dave.Wilson
    @Dave.Wilson 3 года назад

    Mmmm, Red and shiny!!

  • @grahamlucas6033
    @grahamlucas6033 3 года назад +1

    Red ones always go faster

  • @ianbertenshaw4350
    @ianbertenshaw4350 3 года назад

    I can attest that the original handle does indeed hurt when it drops on your foot !

    • @Preso58
      @Preso58  3 года назад

      Yes, I'm pretty sure it would ruin your day!
      Regards,
      Preso

  • @rodgerdodger280
    @rodgerdodger280 3 года назад

    Looking at the setup, I think someone has been paying attention to oldfoundryman

    • @Preso58
      @Preso58  3 года назад

      Absolutely. Mentor extraordinaire in my view!
      Regards,
      Mark

  • @kentuckytrapper780
    @kentuckytrapper780 3 года назад

    Great job man, make mine just like yours. LoL. Alsome.

  • @alc818
    @alc818 3 года назад

    Possibly you should try cutting down a 9/16" imperial socket for a better fit...

    • @Preso58
      @Preso58  3 года назад

      Unfortunately my 9/16" socket doesn't fit. The hex on the end of the vice screw is 14.6mm and 9/16" is 14.28mm. It's one of those metric vs imperial things!
      Regards,
      Mark

  • @trialnterror
    @trialnterror 3 года назад

    I’m going to have to give powder coating a go!

    • @Preso58
      @Preso58  3 года назад

      I can recommend it highly. I love that you can get such a great finish ready to use within 30 minutes. No waiting around for paint to dry, no fumes, very little clean up and the range of colours and effects you can get are amazing. The up front cost is a bit high but after that you are just paying for the powders which go a long way especially on smaller types of projects.
      Regards,
      Mark

  • @ruperthartop7202
    @ruperthartop7202 3 года назад

    Nice

  • @capthowdy126
    @capthowdy126 Год назад

    what kind of dro do u have and the edge finder u used, what kind is that, this is the first time ive seen a edge finder like that and only dro ive ever seen that has a touch is the ones that use arduino an i wish i would have found those b4 i ended up buying the cheaper setup i have on my mill now, but eventually i wouldn't mind upgrading the dro on my mill an using what i have on it now on my lathe.

    • @Preso58
      @Preso58  Год назад

      I am using TouchDRO www.touchdro.com on my milling machine. It is a bluetooth connected adapter that takes the position data from the scales and then sends it to an app on an android device using bluetooth. I recently upgraded to 5 micron glass scales on the mill since the capacitive scales were unreliable. The TouchDRO app has been overhauled and it now has a lot more tools integrated to make it easier to do tool tables and edge and centre finding. The "wiggler" seen in the video is an old Starret tool. It has several different probes which can be swapped out. Some have ball ends and there is a sharp pointed probe for locating centre punch marks. They are very sensitive, especially the ball ended type.
      Check it out here www.amazon.com.au/Starrett-S828HZ-Centre-Finder-STRS828HZ/dp/B0006J4PIS
      Regards,
      Mark

  • @ad2309
    @ad2309 3 года назад

    Very nice job!
    Cheers

  • @rembrantsworkshop
    @rembrantsworkshop 3 года назад

    What are your thoughts about using the sockets as cores and casting them into the part?

    • @Preso58
      @Preso58  3 года назад

      That's a possible approach. I have just heard from Olfoundryman (casting guru) that it is possible to use hex shaped metal cores which are pressed out later leaving the correct sized hex opening directly in the casting. Now I'm dead keen to try it!
      Regards,
      Mark

  • @nurgle11
    @nurgle11 3 года назад

    G'day Presso.

  • @CraigLYoung
    @CraigLYoung 3 года назад

    Thanks for sharing! Nice project and I complement you on your choice of color but I have to ask, have you never heard of "Abom Torque?"

    • @Preso58
      @Preso58  3 года назад

      I did grunt when I tightened the vice up. Does that count?
      Regards,
      Mark

  • @wyohman00
    @wyohman00 3 года назад

    You're on the money but not everyone knows that red is the fastest color....I was interested to see the boring bar move slightly when you were doing the sockets. What is that terrible noise on the Bridgeport when moving the X Axis?

    • @Preso58
      @Preso58  3 года назад +1

      William, the noise in the X axis was the power feed being moved manually. It's one of those aftermarket "Align" units and it made that noise when I got it. I don't know if it is supposed to sound like that but I noticed that Joe Pieczynski's mill makes a similar noise. I didn't notice any wayward movement of the boring head but I was using a combination of moving the Z axis and the quill for some of the boring cuts. I still don't trust the quill power feed trip mechanism although the power down feed does work great.
      Regards,
      Mark

    • @wyohman00
      @wyohman00 3 года назад

      @@Preso58 Check it out around 22:09

    • @Preso58
      @Preso58  3 года назад +1

      @@wyohman00 Sorry, I thought you were talking about the boring head in the mill. Yes, the boring bar was deflecting and the bore was almost certainly bell mouthed but as it was just for clearance it didn't matter. Those sockets were very hard and the inserts I was using had a nose radius that was probably too large.
      Regards,
      Mark

  • @bobweiram6321
    @bobweiram6321 3 года назад

    I asked Tubalcain about using an air hammer for ramming the sand. He said it might not work because the throw is too short. Do you concur with that assessment?

    • @Preso58
      @Preso58  3 года назад

      Bob, I had already asked Olfoundryman ruclips.net/channel/UC90RoN_IjSRF18jAG0HIA6g the same thing. He has a long stroke air tool for ramming sand and my little air chisel only has a stroke of about 1/4" I think the commercial tools have a stroke of several inches.
      Regards,
      Mark

    • @bobweiram6321
      @bobweiram6321 3 года назад

      @@Preso58 Hmmm. It's kind of counterintuitive in that you would expect an air hammer's ramming power to be a function of speed, distance and force, but not distance as the sole dominating factor.. I would expect a hammer with a shorter throw (distance) to be compensated by it's speed and force (psi). In fact, if you've ever seen those asphalt compactors the bottom plate merely vibrates a few millimeters at most, but it has a lot of force (weight) and speed.

    • @Preso58
      @Preso58  3 года назад

      @@bobweiram6321 check out this video by Olfoundryman ruclips.net/video/7Y5eWT1lPtE/видео.html He uses his pneumatic sand rammer at 15:00
      Regards,
      Mark

  • @ianide2480
    @ianide2480 3 года назад +5

    I've cut this thing 5 times and it's still to short....

    • @Preso58
      @Preso58  3 года назад

      Ha, ha. I know that feeling!
      Regards,
      Mark

  • @philmenzies2477
    @philmenzies2477 3 года назад

    Thats a nice clean casting. Did you degas it? And what with?

    • @Preso58
      @Preso58  3 года назад +1

      Phil, I have stopped worrying about degassing. The best thing I ever did was to buy good quality ingots of 601 series alloy. There is a small foundry near where I live and I just turned up one day with $200 in cash and asked to buy some of their ingots. The going price is about $5 per kilo and I offered them $6. It machines beautifully and can be hardened to a T5 with heat treatment. I haven't done that yet but the advice I was given my my casting guru, Olfoundryman ruclips.net/channel/UC90RoN_IjSRF18jAG0HIA6g was to just melt the metal as quickly as possible and pour it without entraining a lot of air. That's why I use a tapered sprue and a pouring basin. Since adopting those measures I have almost no porosity in my castings.
      Regards,
      Mark

  • @ironhead65
    @ironhead65 3 года назад

    I think you said this before, but what kind of wrenches are those allen/hex keys/wrenches you use?

    • @Preso58
      @Preso58  3 года назад

      I got mine from Hare and Forbes in Australia. www.machineryhouse.com.au/H820
      Regards,
      Mark

  • @rok1475
    @rok1475 3 года назад

    Either you have an old oven for baking paint or a very understanding wife.
    Probably both...

    • @Preso58
      @Preso58  3 года назад

      No, that's my specially adapted shop oven! I pulled it out of a skip at the local appliance repair place and fitted some new knobs to it. It appears that this was the only reason it had been scrapped. I also fitted a PID controller so I can set the baking temperature fairly accurately. I would be recently divorced if I tried to bake my parts in the kitchen oven. "Not in the Siemens"! 😱
      Regards,
      Mark

  • @bobawatsit
    @bobawatsit 2 года назад

    may be some one else had the same fix, but I would have placed the pattern back in the cope and tried to repair edge ?

    • @Preso58
      @Preso58  2 года назад

      That would certainly be better than just accepting the extra metal where the breakaway occurred but the finished part turned out OK with a little filing and sanding.
      Regards,
      Mark

  • @blfstk1
    @blfstk1 3 года назад

    Good Show Mate...as per normal. Lollipop red. Of course. Beating heart is GOOD. Still heart is BAD. Continue beating heart. Makes everything better. Take this from someone who has cardiac irregularities. Notice you are using a convection oven. Some overkill there. You make cookies too?

    • @Preso58
      @Preso58  3 года назад

      I had to disable the circulation fan in the back of the oven. I found out the hard way that it blows the powder off the parts before it has a chance to fuse.
      Regards,
      Mark

  • @mikegregory460
    @mikegregory460 3 года назад

    I have the same problem with my vice and mill combo, a baby bridgeport type. You should sell the castings, i would buy one.
    An off topic Q, how do you find the touch dro with messy hands. I just ordered a new lathe and am tempted to add one to that

    • @Preso58
      @Preso58  3 года назад

      Mike, I have a screen protector on the tablet and I would think that they are cheap enough that you could replace them periodically. I do recall reading about a guy who crashed his CNC mill because he had a touch screen and he tried to move the Z axis as a rapid move by touching the down arrow on the touch screen. His oily finger left a mark on the screen that was misinterpreted as a finger. When he lifted his finger off the screen the mill kept moving! At least with the TouchDRO there is no chance of actually crashing anything. If the screen got messy you could just wipe it off.
      Regards,
      Mark

    • @mikegregory460
      @mikegregory460 3 года назад

      @@Preso58 Thanks for that. The lathe is new and fairly fancy, Sunmaster TC-1640V, so want to put something nice on it. Probably give the touch a go.

  • @toneault7499
    @toneault7499 3 года назад

    so what you are telling us is that you used metric.. as opposed to impearl size ??

    • @Preso58
      @Preso58  3 года назад

      Yes, sad but true! 9/16" is too small. The hex is 14.6mm. 9/16" is 14.28mm. I should add that it's not a genuine Kurt vice. I'm not that rich.😥
      Regards,
      Mark

    • @toneault7499
      @toneault7499 3 года назад

      @@Preso58 their are not that many rich people about these day ? lol

  • @bobawatsit
    @bobawatsit 2 года назад

    and type of alloy, old pistons ....wheels ?

    • @Preso58
      @Preso58  2 года назад

      Rob, I used to melt scrap for my castings but after a couple of spectacular failures I decided to buy ingots of 601 series alloy from a foundry. I think I paid $5 per kilo and it was well worth it. My castings are now free of inclusions and porosity and the alloy can be heat treated if necessary to a T5 spec.
      Regards,
      Mark

  • @scruffy6151
    @scruffy6151 3 года назад

    👍👍

  • @Th3Su8
    @Th3Su8 3 года назад

    It looks because you did it twice.

  • @roundtuitracingaz132
    @roundtuitracingaz132 3 года назад

    Ignore the casting behind the curtain!

  • @ritapartridge4208
    @ritapartridge4208 2 года назад

    Dalray

  • @justincahill5949
    @justincahill5949 11 месяцев назад

    Eecree

  • @tcratius1748
    @tcratius1748 3 года назад

    Do you have an email contact?

    • @Preso58
      @Preso58  3 года назад +1

      Have a look on the "about" tab on my channel page.
      Regards,
      Mark

    • @tcratius1748
      @tcratius1748 3 года назад

      Must confess I did, and just did again. Maybe my tablet doesn't like email. I will try on a computer. Have to love technology :)

    • @Preso58
      @Preso58  3 года назад

      @@tcratius1748 try mark.presling@gmail.com I believe that Apple operating systems don't show the same "about" page as us Windows people get to see.

    • @tcratius1748
      @tcratius1748 3 года назад

      That is hilarious, I can't even begin to understand how that works. Oh well, their loss I guess, though it seems a bit cruel considering the amount of money they spend on their devices. I digress, I will contact you soon with an idea. :)

  • @rok1475
    @rok1475 3 года назад

    Mark,
    The handle shown in this video has a magnet to “store” it on the vise.
    This may be a nice enhancement to your handle.
    ruclips.net/video/0BZm4VCAVMU/видео.html

    • @Preso58
      @Preso58  3 года назад

      Thanks for that. I will absolutely be adding that feature (the magnet) to the handle. What a great idea. I often call magnets "the engineer's friend".
      Regards,
      Mark